How to do rotoscope tracking using Mocha HitFilm | HitFilm Pro

[@thewrenchreviews9986]

Thank you Javert! Great tutorial on Mocha in Hitfilm Pro. This will be very, very useful!

[@davidsmart3272]

Do you install mocha differently.

[@mario-off-topic]

Thanks! There were a couple of things I weren't aware of and that make the rotoscoping more relaxed.

[@FXhome]

Really glad you found the tutorial useful :) - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@Awulf]

Great timing with this video. I've been trying to get my head wrapped around rotoscoping with mocha and this was just the thing I needed.

[@FXhome]

Oh perfect timing! Really hope you find the info in this tutorial useful :) Best of luck with the rotoscoping! - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@CollinsCamera]

I didn't know I could do all of that in Mocha! Amazing tutorial!

[@dgfhszdr]

@ Javert - I was REALLY looking forward to how the 24 masks were "layered" and why so many... So I'll ask here okay? 1. What's the decision point / best practice / reasoning for breaking something up vs. not? 2. for example, why is Tim's hat 3 layers and not 2 -- top and brim? 3. And when tracking Emily's fingers, (or the hat), did you track her forearm and link the fingers ( or for the hat, the top and then the brims)? And an extra credit / not on this clip question: 4. Would you split up parts of something in the foreground you wanted to remove in the same way? I had a hard time removing a motorbike mirror from the foreground of a somewhat dimly lit but otherwise useful pan across another motorbike. The mask would deflect out of shape when it exited the frame, which was fixed with lots of keyframes, but I still ended up with too many artefacts (bad remove) and gave up -- cut the whole shot a bit early to avoid the offending mirror! Would tracking the "bulb" of the mirror separately from the "stalk" have helped?

[@FXhome]

Rotoscoping in pieces is much easier than trying to do it all at once. In general I don't want to have to handle a spline with more than 10 points at a time; if you were to draw a single shape around a whole person, that means that you could be adjusting 30+ points every single frame. Tim's hat was 3 shapes because the left and right brim move on their own, into different shapes. I did not track any of the hat pieces because of how much they shift perspective. I tracked each of Emily's fingers separately, since they rotate on their own. I'm not sure about your remove question- might want to post on the Forum with more detail and an example video to get some help if you still need it. -Javert

[@michaelafshin]

Hello Hitfilm i just downloaded the trial version of Hitfiom pro but it does not have mocha in it, if i am not mistaken mocha by default comes with Hitfilm pro. Please advice. Thanks

[@johnd2631]

Ok, new to HitFilm (just bought Pro) and this is what I've been looking for. I do wish it was a little slower, and I know I can replay it but sometimes it's hard to process it all that fast. Anyway, this is exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you.

[@legendaryone696]

When I first started a lot of the tutorials seems fast to me to, but the more you learn the more they make sense and they SLOWER they start to feels. Just keep learning and watch some of the videos you've seen over again and you'll see what I mean.

[@FXhome]

Welcome to the HitFilm community :) I hope the tutorials become easier to follow as you learn more and more about the software. Some tutorials are definitely harder to follow than others but if you go though some of the playlists (the beginner ones to start with) things will become easier :) - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@dharmabohemes9123]

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[@StarWarsTime]

Hope you stay on this channel for ever 😂 I could listen to your voice day and night lmao

[@davidsmart3272]

I know right

[@iampaulzy]

Seven minutes for rotoscoping? Well, it worked. Keep it up.

[@Tedinator01]

That was FANTASTIC! I’m going to try it out myself ASAP. Any time you feel the need to do more Mocha tutorials, please do.

[@Tedinator01]

Also, is this the technique I would need to use for walking into or out of a Stargate?

[@FXhome]

If the shot you're trying to create is set up in the same kind of way (effect in the background with your actors walking in front of it), this technique could definitely be used! :) - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@martok2112]

Gotta get the Mocha Add On....this is going to come in most handy. Thank you, Javert. :)

[@martok2112]

Actually, Javert, I have Hit Film 4 Pro, and according to the features list, Mocha is supposed to be included with it. I do not see Mocha anywhere on the Effects or Features list. Help?

[@FXhome]

Does it show up if you search for it in the Effects panel? If not, please contact Support: fxhome.com/ask, something might have gone wrong on installation. - Javert (FXhome Staff)

[@martok2112]

@@FXhome Hi, Javert. No, it doesn't show up in the searches either. I did contact FXHome support, and Axel told me that they no longer supported HF4PRO. He did tell me how to fire up Mocha in HF4PRO...but the problem was it would not run my mp4 files. It would say: "File is unsupported or may be corrupted." Ah well. I've been meaning to save up money to get the latest, greatest Hit Film version anyway. :) Thank you for replying. Have a great day. :)

[@GrandMagicOfRegnum]

ok so i just bought the mocha add on ... and loving it, thank u for all ure tutorials .. learning alot

[@FXhome]

Glad to hear it! - Javert (FXhome Staff)

[@raymondstpaul4913]

Do you have more tutorials covering this subject with HItfilm? Also what if the subject is hairy?

[@raymondstpaul4913]

Hello, I have a question how would you do this for hairy objects such as a dog?

[@dougangotblocked]

thanks - thats pretty succient & covers things i didnt know about mocha

[@dharmabohemes9123]

with intro and outro - 7:44 learned so much

[@bernard8267]

hi very nice tuto, can we go fi=urther and use the mate in a 3D composition ? with particules, for instance ?

[@jimkropf5530]

Thank you Javert...GREAT tutorial. My question is: once the foreground subjects are rotoscoped, can you delete them? And if so, is there a hole where they used to be? How do you remove them and keep the background intact? Do you need a separate shot of the trees without the 2 actors to fill in the hole? Any help with removing foreground elements keeping the background intact would be incredibly helpful. Thanks so much in advance.

[@FXhome]

Yes, there would be a hole if you cut out the actors after roto'ing them. You would need to have either filmed a clean plate (background without actors) and fill in the gaps or create a new clean plate using pieces where the actors weren't covering the environment. The former is much easier to do. - Javert

[@StarWarsTime]

What is the difference between tracking the entire person or spilt it in different areas ?

[@DriventoDraw]

Great job Javert!

[@joeslacker1020]

@4:38 Does this have to be done everytime you make a shape with the selector and activating the tracking data?

[@FXhome]

If you want the new shape to follow the tracking data from another shape, yes. - Javert

[@mluckphoto]

what do you do with the data? How do you apply it in hitfilm. Mocha and foundry tracker are great hitfilm editions but I can't find me tutorials on how to apply the data in there are tons of tutorials for mocha for after effects but not enough tutorials for mocha for hitfilm.

[@FXhome]

The rotoscope is applied in HitFilm at 7:04. - Javert (FXhome Staff)

[@LPMOVIESTVSofficial]

very cool guys have a nice night guys

[@Isaacthompson]

Great job! Thank you..

[@FXhome]

Thanks for watching! - Javert

[@NoUse4AName2004]

what version of HitFilm are you using? I'm in Hitfilm 11 and I dont have it

[@joeslacker1020]

How important is it for the layers to overlap even if nothing in my video overlaps the other part of the object? So I'm making a video game character rotoscope and I have like a horn out of the character is it important for each sub section of the entire character to overlap as you see in this video?

[@FXhome]

Without having seen the video game character, I would say pretty important- if the layers don't overlap, there will be holes in your rotoscope. Mocha will only keep the video that is contained in the shapes. - Javert

[@emyboybeats4330]

HIfilm is supper slow on my computer. What should I do?? After effects and Nuke work just fine

[@FXhome]

Please contact Support with your computer specs and the type of footage you're trying to edit: fxhome.com/ask - Javert

[@emyboybeats4330]

I did, and I was asked to supply a file generated by my computer. Once I did, they never got back to me. 😩😩

[@Noah6544]

Project files?

[@DawidDettlaff]

Does Mocha for HitFilm does have option of stabilization? I need easy to use or automated stabilization. I've got just too many shots to point track this stuff... Will mocha save me?

[@FXhome]

Mocha HitFilm does not have stabilization features, but Mocha Pro does. - Javert (FXhome Staff)

[@BraineZVisuals]

Amazing Video! Thanks for this tutorial! :)

[@FXhome]

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it :) - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@plasmastudio1614]

Thank You for your kind words for users This makes HitFilm Much More "SPECIAL" ... BTW, Recently I was using Davinci Resolve For slow motion > It has "Optical Flow" option .... It's the best ever option to slow your videos.. I/we wish to see the same thing in HitFilm. This is my Idea for next update maybe Major(Yearly) Update. n next great thing is that I'm going to purchase Pro version as I'm familiar with HitFilm. but still I want to test Express 2018 before purchase.... :) Thank You

[@FXhome]

Thank you for this great suggestion. I've taken note of what you've said so that we can look into this further :) - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@cepfathir7829]

hi brother, how to add Mocha to Hitfilm? I'm a beginner, thanks.

[@FXhome]

Mocha HitFilm comes with HitFilm Pro, and as an add-on pack for Express: fxhome.com/store/hitfilm-express#mocha - Javert

[@cepfathir7829]

@@FXhome ok, thanks

[@abumusa4625]

can't find mocha hitfilm for hitfilm pro 11

[@FXhome]

Please contact Support with details about your computer: fxhome.com/ask - Javert (FXhome Staff)

[@drpleaserespect]

Does this work for hitfilm pro 2017??

[@FXhome]

HitFilm Pro 2017 also had Mocha HitFilm so the technique can be reproduced in that older version of the software. - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@drpleaserespect]

HitFilm thanks

[@earsbleed]

this is so cool

[@Jonathan-Violin]

Hello! I just found your channel. I have been using PowerDirector 14 to do my videos so far but I'm not so sure that it's the best program for me to be using. I am downloading the Hitfilm trial to try it out. If you guys had a chance to check out my videos I would love to know if you think I could do better with Hitfilm or if it would be about the same. Also, any advice would be greatly appreciated. I did not go to filming school or anything so I'm not sure if I am doing pretty good or not. Thanks :)

[@davidsmart3272]

Please a tutorial on how to install this.

[@FXhome]

Mocha HitFilm comes with HitFilm Pro, you don't need to install it. - Javert

[@sebastianthor2078]

Very nice!

[@FXhome]

Thanks! - Javert

[@sebastianthor2078]

​@@FXhomeKeep up the great work!

[@plasmastudio1614]

HitFilm, Day by Day popularity is increasing pls provide various tools now for Pro and Express version :) Learn from other softwares how their tools are, and try to make them in HitFilm , for example Optical Flow is the option to create slow motion videos .. or Math coding tool like Adobe .... :)

[@FXhome]

We're always open to suggestions! If there are any particular effects you'd like to see just let us know and we can look into them :) - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@SageCrispin]

Hitfilm pro (I don't know if Express has it or not) has "Motion Blur" in the Effects panel in the "Blurs" folder (not the same as motion blur option in the comps panel). It creates intermediate frames that are composed of the previous and succeeding frames, which I believe is what PR Optical flow does. You need to play with Shutter angle and Shutter Phase (I used 180 and 90) as the defaults don't work very well. Looks fantastic once you get it right.

[@plasmastudio1614]

Thank You, but I'm giving this Idea. because "Optical Flow" is just another higher level tool/effect and Motion Blur is just a "Hack" so better we've that option in future. :) for experience just download Davinci Resolve now and test it how smooth your slow-motion videos are!

[@apollo12002]

Very good vid :-)

[@Deweak]

Brilliant ! My error was to try to rotoscope an actor with only one shape... Beginner's mistake ! Thanks a lot for this video :)

[@FXhome]

Glad to hear you got some useful tips from the video :) - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@Deweak]

HitFilm I’m getting useful tips from all your videos, thanks for making this great software :)

[@StarWarsTime]

What is the difference between to to scoping and masking the Actors?

[@HitfilmUniversity]

Rotoscoping is a generic term for "tracing a person/object." It dates back to when a device called a rotoscope was used to project a film negative so the matte artist could create the shapes. A mask is using drawing tools to define a shape directly on a layer. A matte is using a second layer, or some other external data to define a shape on a first layer. In terms of your question there is no difference. Masking the actors IS rotoscoping. Mocha is generating a matte (even though its applied to the layer with the effect, it's a matte because external software is creating it and passing it to the layer). Now, the difference between using mocha and the masking tools? Mocha can TRACK, which means Mocha can follow movement of an object. Mocha is pretty good at automatically following the way a shape changes as it moves. Mocha can have multiple splines link to a single track. Masking tools do none of that. With masking you basically have to hand-correct every shape on every frame. You not track a mask directly in Hitfilm in any way...

[@StarWarsTime]

Landscape Pictures ok thanks

[@StarWarsTime]

Hitfilm University Ah ok thank you very much , but do you know how I can delete an object in the backround without the viewer noticing it 🤔

[@kiyu5681]

please help me, I don't have mocha in effect on Hitfilm

[@FXhome]

Mocha is available in HitFilm Pro by default or via the Mocha HitFilm add-on pack for Express: fxhome.com/store/hitfilm-express#mocha - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@kiyu5681]

I'm in pro and I don't have it

[@FXhome]

It comes with HitFilm Pro by default so you should see it available in your effects panel. Search for Mocha in your effects panel, the effect is "Mocha HitFilm". - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@eliaedits2272]

i tried to export the video rotoscoped, but then , when i openned it, it becames dark

[@FXhome]

Please contact Support with your computer specs and a screencapture of the issue occurring: fxhome.com/ask - Javert

[@ThePixelbuilder]

Great tutorial, but unfortunately most (or all?) Hitfilm tutorial lack one important point (imo) The part showing the desired result and the final made one just don't exist. A different way might be: 1. Show the "effect" in full length 2. Do the tutorial 3. Show the result of the tutorial made effect in full length A great AE tutorial YT does this really good ;) The videos start end especially end way to quick. Maybe you can consider this in the next videos - keep up the great work

[@FXhome]

Thanks ever so much for the feedback! This is a really good suggestion and we'll consider trying to implement this in the future :) - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@KwapiPL]

That was great, thanks!

[@hiphop8475]

Hi brother music video editing and music video shoot how

[@TheFilminators]

Please do another flash video

[@FXhome]

If there a particular Flash effect you're hoping to recreate? You may be able to adjust things from our previous tutorial to make the effect you want :) - Oli (HitFilm Staff)

[@TheFilminators]

I want a phasing tutorial plz

[@forfunn520]

bro when your video editing completed so you playing your final video with effect.......

[@rvrobertsV51]

It's a good quick rough, but not a professional result - you still need to tune all that lot more!

[@iDATUS]

Things are slowing beginning to click for me. Cheers.

[@FXhome]

That's so great to hear! Like anything, it takes practise :) - Oli (HitFilm staff)

[@spydurhank]

Super! :)

[@Gireshahid33]

Mocha is God

[@captainameirca3962]

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[@TheInsaneBolt]

Would a green screen not have been more handy?

[@blupper6345]

It would, but it require a lot of lighting setup in order to look good. So when you are on a tight deadline it's easier to do it this way. Plus, it look's just as good.

[@TheInsaneBolt]

but it takes more time to do this

[@TheInsaneBolt]

i suppose but i prefer to make my editing a bit less time...

[@TheInsaneBolt]

INDEED, lol, i just find my selfe making a lot of mistakes when doing roto work...

[@HitfilmUniversity]

Both FxHome and Triune Films are businesses and that adds some other considerations here. Adding a greenscreen requires having a greenscreen large enough to cover what's needed. Possibly multiple sizes. The greenscreen needs to be lit, so that's lights, stands, batteries and sandbags. Now, besides Tim and Emily you have your DP, audio, and props/makeup (probably Ryan and Josh, maybe Arris). Now... Do you add more people to your crew to mess around with the lights and greenscreen? Or, do the crew double up hats. Either way you more than double the time taken on this shoot, and that's a generous estimate... What about the wide shot? So you have to drag the greenscreen out, shoot the actor plate, then strike it, drag it back behind the camera.... Now we discuss "person-hours." We know there were at least five people on the shoot. From the BTS it looks more like seven or eight. So, an additional hour of shoot "costs" the same as Javert rotoing for a day. Again, Triune is a business--they make money off video work and sponsors. No matter how you figure it, this short has a budget--either FXHOME contracted them, or no money was paid. Even if Triune wasn't paid by FXHOME, there's a budget--Triune isn't doing paid work when doing a possible "freebie." For FXHOME. Triune's landlord doesn't care how cool Hitfilm is, rent is due. So, once again, even though it probably takes Javert longer to roto than key, in terms of "person hours," it takes a lot less time (money) for Javert to roto than it does for the production crew to mess around with greenscreen.

[@peteypaul7877]

Javert u gainec weight!

[@detectivewhite-murdermyste2057]

:)

[@potter_productions]

just looking back in 2020, javert has got too skinny

[@Solentgreenispeople]

Thank you so much for doing this!!!!! I needed this! Please do one where you are replacing faces.....