FZ1 Kinked Fuel Line!!

[@johnbatt8442]

You sir are a star. I had just done my throttle bodies and the damn thing wouldn't start. I pulled it apart again but when I tried it again I turned the ignition on and off couple of times to build fuel pressure and it started.That convinced me it was the pump. I searched for a KZbin clip to see how to do that job and found this video. On inspecting the bike. guess what, Bingo.

[@AndyManCam]

Very hastig to have helped John! KZbin is the gift that just keeps on giving, eh?! Happy riding!!

[@matthewjackson9765]

Just discovered Andy Man Cam channel a few weeks ago looking for something for my fz1. Ended up watching the content just for the entertainment! Love the tours, it's just awesome you do that with your "folks" and other video bloggers. Enjoy the how to garage, the views from tours, and even your political rant of brexit (Congrads on the wedding by the way). Best reality show I've seen by far!

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers Matthew! Many thanks and cheers for coming over to the channel! I hope I can keep you entertained for a long while to come!

[@YorkshireBiker44]

Followed this step by step doing mine. Appreciated Andy now I can sleep at night.

[@chem599]

You make garage videos interesting and entertaining, keep up the great work! Enjoying your videos 👍

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks very much mate! I shall do my very best!!

[@redrob5808]

Another great video Andy. I did mine last night. The original hose wasn't kinked, but better to be safe than sorry. A £2.50 fuel hose from Halfords is better than a £100 bill from the garage and a 4 hour wait for a recovery truck! Keep them coming.

[@poorguy915]

Wow. I didn't know such a simple problem could have a major consequence. Good to know! Thanks Andy!

[@AndyManCam]

Neither did I! I’d heard about it, but never imagined that it would be a plastic pipe that could fold!!

[@killerarchbishop]

Great video! I just replaced the fuel line in my 05 R1. You made it look easy and it was actually easier when I pulled up my tank. Thank you, my friend!

[@AnuragRana087]

Beautifully explained. I gotta check it on mine too. Been running a bit rough. it is a 2013 and an absolute gangster.

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks and my pleasure. Good luck sorting yours out.

[@leebeddoes1064]

Another great bit of knowledge to hold onto. Got to say I'm never let down by one of your videos, keep up the good work ✌

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks Lee, thats great to hear! I’ll do my very level best mate!

[@seeul8rwaynekerr]

I collect my FZ1SA this coming Tuesday. Always interested in your content buddy. Einfach Klasse!

[@gintry2]

Thanks Andy! After I swapped an engine, throttle bodies and the muffler on FZ1of mine I've noticed similar problem: bike is idling fine, rides ok but even slightest attempt of revving it without engaging clutch results in engine cuts off. First, I thought it might be due to disconnected EX-up valve cables (eliminator is on the way) but it seemed unlikely. I went on forums and ppl were talking about vacuum leak, fuel valves problem and so on. So I was checking and checking without success. That fuel line is sleeved so it is not showing a kink, especially stretched when a tank is up, nothing obvious then. If is just that problem it will save me a lot of stress and probably some coin as well.. About to check and change that fuel line today... P.S Waiting for throttle balancing video. I will attempt to do it as well :) (edit)...or maybe not. just checked. That e-sync tool is bloody expensive...

[@gintry2]

That was it! Changed fuel line to rubber one (like on vid) and it has solved the problem. Still need nice ride to test outcome but for now I can say - I owe you a beer. If you planning to pass near Ipswich - Suffolk on your Scotland tour I would gladly meet for a pint. Maybe even join you for a part of it with my FZ1 Or even provide you with shelter for a night.

[@AndyManCam]

Awesome! Really happy to hear that mate! Glad the bike is running properly again and hopefully didn't cost you too much to fix!

[@jasonmcmaster3939]

I knew of the rotor "issue" but wasn't aware of the fuel line kink...good to know just in case👍 FZ1 still a badass bike...I stupidly sold mine back in May, regretted it so much that I bought it back this month!!

[@AndyManCam]

I knew about it, but thought that i was immune after lifting my tank a hundred times without issue. Luckily i saved a lot of problem solving time when it happened as I’d already read through the forum thread months ago!

[@sirclip]

You nailed my problem exactly! And I was about to pull apart the injector system. . . What a POS the oem fuel line is.

[@AndyManCam]

Very happy to hear that! Enjoy your Newly well fueled bike mate!

[@makosasimakis118]

Hello mate . Can yoy tell me exactly what were the symptoms ? Because i think i have the same problem . Bike starts normally , idles perfectly , but when i try to give throttle above 6-7K rpm ,the engine dies ! Thanks !

[@AndyManCam]

Sounds exactly like it Makos. Mine was as soon as i tried to pull away, but the amount the pipe is being pinched can vary.

[@MyRandomLife247]

Man you take such pride in your work, it’s so refreshing to see :)

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks mate. Nice that you get that impression from my ramblings!

[@mikej5404]

Thanks for all the great videos! Really hope there is another video coming on that throttle body sync. I also own an fz1 and savor over these vids. 😊

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks Mike. My pleasure mate, cheers for watching! The throttle sync video will be along asap!

[@Nick-mq9on]

A year or two ago I did much the same thing, store sold me wrong kind of hose. After about ten miles my back tire keep squirming trying to throw me off and almost succeeded. Pulled over and found the hose had split and dumped Gasoline (almost a whole tank) over the hot engine and onto the road which apparently is amazing slick for motorcycle tires. Had to trailer it home and the bike fell over on the trailer, dinged the tank and broke part of the fairing. Moral of this story: Make sure it's safe for Gas/Petrol when you buy it.

[@AndyManCam]

That's an unbelievable nightmare! Sorry to hear it mate! Mine appears to have all of the right specs.

[@BIG-K]

A satisfying outcome 👍

[@AndyManCam]

Very much so! A bike that runs is always a win!

[@MichaelPailhous]

OH MY GODD ! Just had the problem !!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH :)

[@AndyManCam]

Awesome! Very happy to have helped Michael! Happy fuelling! 😉

[@Razornipple]

Nice job, always enjoy your videos!

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks very much Kerry!

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Blimey! She's getting the full works😜

[@AndyManCam]

And why ever not! I’m planning to keep her a long time, so may as well make it perfect now!

[@Vernon240]

Nice job. Important to note to get your fuel line from a reputable supplier. There is a lot of hose on places like ebay that is stamped with the right standards, but no manufacturers name. Typically it's cheap Chinese hose. It ages badly from the inside out due to the Ethanol in todays fuel. The internal layer you saw could be a PTFE or similar lining that is resistant to ethanol. The harder plastic hose you removed I'm sure was a cost saving measure, but it does seem to be pretty resistant to Ethanol vs a rubber hose. I've had rubber hose fail alarmingly, but never the plastic stuff...but it does kink.

[@AndyManCam]

Very good point. I would have only bought this from a proper shop that I trust. I even read a few reviews and made sure that the specs can deal with E10 fuel.

[@tentacleprty]

I'm doing the Lars mod this weekend and this was a good reminder to do the fuel line while under there.

[@jesperbreitenstein7402]

Great videos Andy 👍🏻🇩🇰

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks 👍

[@MRTPR]

Excellent job and video as always mate !

[@chrishendry1480]

Yeah those rubbish fuel lines are on R1’s too! I’ve always done this method of changing it.

[@AndyManCam]

Makes sense i guess. Bad show from Yamaha though!! Again!!!

[@BBjjellkkoo]

Do you plan to put video about throttle body sync? Thanks

[@AndyManCam]

Absolutely yes! The editing is just a little bit more complicated than this one, so it’s taking longer.

[@JJ-vy4jz]

Ok so I did this to fix my r6 bogging at 10k+ rpms or whenever I open the throttle too fast. Now I can open the throtrle fast without my bike dying or hesitating it idles fine and I can get to redline now but now whenever I'm in gear its like it doesn't get enough fuel. It works sometimes if i don't open the throttle too much. I bought a fuel injection line from the autoshop and connected the quick release up to it.

[@AndyManCam]

The pipe from tank to pump is a low pressure pipe, which tend to have larger internal diameter than high pressure pipes. That could be your problem?

[@JJ-vy4jz]

@@AndyManCam I bought a 5/16th I.D fuel line should i maybe get 1/4? I'm in america so its probably different where you are. 1/4 is smaller

[@JJ-vy4jz]

@@AndyManCam I have a 4/8 pipe which is smaller than 5/16 I could try to put that on. I'll switch out and come back to let you know. I cant find any information on Google it seems people swigch fuel lines with 0 problems. Not me though smh.

[@JJ-vy4jz]

@@AndyManCam ok im not smart the the other pipe is 3/8 and its not smaller lol I grabbed a 1/4 trying that now

[@JJ-vy4jz]

@@AndyManCam ok I replaced the line with the smaller 1/4 line and its doing the same thing. I shouldn't have cut my regular line idk why its doing this

[@zappa3543]

Thankyou just fixed my 87 fj1200

[@AndyManCam]

That's great news. Congrats!

[@charliewatson234]

I wasn't able to find the information on the hose you used in the fix . Could you give the make and supplier. Thanks

[@AndyManCam]

It was just a small length of fuel pipe, of the right diameter. I’m sure if you took the old pipe to a car/bike parts shop or a workshop, they’d be able to sort you out. 👍🏻

[@mateprnjak3039]

Got the same thing on my old suzuki vstrom 650. That shitty hard fuel hose didn't bend in my case but crack the fuel pump connector. It was hairy thin crack and didn't leak in normal but onli in really hot environments. For a few hot day's in summer it will start to leak. It drives me crazy for 2 years until one day i was lucky enough to catch leaking in perfect time. And all that for 0.2$ price of decent hose and clamps. I will never understand how big names like yamaha and suzuki can afford to them to do such a big mistakes

[@santi945]

What are the other to hoses coming from the tank for? Are where do they lead to?

[@AndyManCam]

They are overflow/ breather pipes.

[@pra089]

Thx, upgraded mine. Can't somehow the longer line affect the fuel pump? Its longer.... it needs more power? I am just thinking.....

[@AndyManCam]

From the pump to the injectors is a low pressure section so shouldn’t be a problem. Theoretically, due to the mass flow hypothesis, the pipe could be as long as you want and it would still work.

[@madinatore]

Kinkshaming in action. If I can ever invite you for some cake and coffe at Coffe to fly give me a shout.

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Absolutely! Coffee and cake always sounds like a good idea!

[@ericppagel]

Recycled drinking straws? For shame Yamaha☹️ Nice fix, happy riding Andy!

[@AndyManCam]

Disgusting isn’t it! I think I’ll buy a triumph next! 😂

[@stephenmcqueen4029]

Clips look a bit weedy for a pressurised fuel hose mate. They look like breather hose clips. Use jubilee clips.

[@AndyManCam]

I know what you mean. I don’t think that the pressure is all that high between the pump and the fuel rail. The clips aren’t the toughest, but just providing a bit of resistance against the ribs of the fitting is enough to give me some reassurance! The hose is PROPER tight on there. Also there was no clip at all on the original, despite it being almost completely inflexible!

[@MotivationRope]

Hi Andy did you manage to make sub-throttle flies mod? What ist your opinion about flies. Standard flies had 46mm size I'm preparing mine of 38mm. Do you think I'm gone feel the difference? :) good gob waiting for your next video :) 🤘 👍 💪

[@AndyManCam]

I'm afraid I've never bothered to do anything with the throttle bodies. Sorry.

[@totalchaos290]

Hey Andy your throttle sync how far out were they. I have the tool to do it but havent . My bike is running so good I dont like to touch it.

[@AndyManCam]

They weren’t a lot out, probably less than 10%. But as soon as they were all synced, the tone of the engine seemed to change and she suddenly started to hum! You can of course set up your gauges without going anywhere near the adjusters (they’re a PROPER pain in the arse to get to anyway!). That way you can see how far out they are before you change anything.

[@TriggerCFR]

My original line was stuck so I ended destroying the connectors to get the line off my bike just to find out the line was kinked. About $50 USD later and my FZ1, which was down for 6 months, came back to life. Of course happening after the generator grenaded which lead me to believe it was the charging system the whole time... Looks like another $20 will solve all the problems it'll probably have again.

[@AndyManCam]

That sounds like a proper nightmare Trigger. Sorry to hear it! I hope that it's all behind you now!

[@ChadHog01]

How did this work out in the long run? Thinking about doing this .

[@TFA-01]

OMG, mine been playing up for a bit. This may well be the solution, and dare I say, probably the only one I didn't look at for some unknown stupid reason.

[@AndyManCam]

Well worth a look mate. Nothing to lose and everything to gain. And all for a tenner!

[@bccapone837]

Great video , whats the internal diameter of the stock fuel line 👍🏼👌🏼

[@AndyManCam]

I’m afraid i couldn’t tell you. Sorry.

[@salhs94]

Hello so I have similar bike but it is 2005 Yamaha 1000 cc When I started it starts right up but as long as I start ridding it starts to feel really shaky onyx noise like it’s Swae Lee starving for see you really bad but it does not stall stays on could it be Similar problem to yours any help would be really appreciate it thank you

[@AndyManCam]

Maybe check the fuel line and see if that’s it. Takes only a few minutes and a tiny bit of money to replace it.

[@salhs94]

AndyManCam Thank you for your response I really have replaced them today start it up seem sound seem everything if you would be able to check out my channel and see the video I just posted today of how it sounds I would really appreciate it

[@smokeybarr]

Nice!! Any noticeable performance improvement?

[@AndyManCam]

Sadly I’ve been messing with the sodding bike too much to ride it! So no idea yet!!

[@TheDonInLondon]

Luckily I never had this problem as mine came with a rubber hose. Also curious to know what your CO settings are as I remember you said you get great mpg. After my decat I am getting 90 miles to the tank but that could also be my excitement for a bang and pop haha

[@AndyManCam]

Mine are -5, 20, 20, 2. Even after decat (whic of course I havent done; that would be illegal) im still getting over 250 km to a tank!

[@TheDonInLondon]

@@AndyManCam no idea how you are getting that!! I have never been able to get over 100 miles even before the new engine build. I have the same CO settings too! Well that sucks for me

[@AndyManCam]

Could well be down to my restrictive fuel line!! 😂. Are you sure you dont have a powercommander hidden away somewhere thats bunging ALL the fuel down your exhaust!? I bet at the very least that yours runs suuuuper smooth!

[@TheDonInLondon]

@@AndyManCam haha I wish that was the case as I am looking to get one for her so maybe I will see some differences after. I have always had poor mpg even when I had the standard can. Maybe the ECU has been mapped without a PC but doubt it. Well let's see if you see a difference after your new fuel line haha

[@AndyManCam]

Is it possible that you’ve got a US ecu? They’re mapped far richer due to the different fuel. As far as I’m aware.

[@theenzoferrari458]

My 2007 fz1 isn't squirting fuel out the fuel nipple. The pump is priming but fuel won't come out. Is it airlocked? How do I fix that?

[@AndyManCam]

Maybe check that something isn’t blocking the intake for the fuel pump. Could be Sediment or something stopping the fuel getting in.

[@theenzoferrari458]

@@AndyManCam did that. Still won't squirt fuel. :(

[@AndyManCam]

Then I’m afraid I’m out of ideas. Maybe the pump is buggered?

[@juergenhr]

be aware, louis and polo like to sell DIN 73379 / 97 A =Nitrilkautschuk hoses. not resistant to modern fuel! Bio Fuel Hose According To DIN 73379 TYPE 3 E(SAE J30 R9 ). also called "viton tube" they kost 20€/m.important is "3E" these hoses are 3layer and not so elastic like the always offerd old DIN 73379 / 97 A . to attach them you need the right size of, in german called"Spannbackenschellen". bad fuel hoses are almost as dangerous as bad brake hoses good luck

[@steve0680657]

Surely the line was rigid hard plastic to hold pressure better? A softer line like the one you've fitted will expand under pressure and reduce power. It's why braided brake lines are better than rubber.

[@AndyManCam]

That’s why a braided rubber hose is the best of both worlds! Plus the real pressure comes after the fuel rail. As long as the injectors are getting all the fuel they want, there’ll be no performance hit.

[@steve0680657]

@@AndyManCam good point there. On cars I've found changing the fuel filter makes the throttle feel more responsive. It's only a £5 job. 👌

[@Sam_pah]

I did take my gastank out out but the thing is that fuel keeps leaking out from it,, don't have any starting issues when I took it off but now is seems like pump not shut off

[@AndyManCam]

When you say fuel keeps leaking out, is it flowing, or just a couple of drops? There’s always a little bit left in the pipe, but as long as it’s not constantly running out, shouldn’t be a problem. If it is running out, then something is not right with the pump!

[@Sam_pah]

@@AndyManCam isn't constantly flowing but I know after few hours or so gas making their way out somehow... But I did take a chance to put this gastank back together, connect all the lines into the bike and tried to ride around block.. Next thing u know gasoline leaks all over my bike from all the fuel line I just connected to the bike. So i Quickly take the gastank off again

[@ezalsah8880]

Hi andy is the FZ1N and FZ1S the parts is similiar or same?

[@AndyManCam]

Hi Ezal. I’m 99% certain that they are exactly the same.

[@charliewright3816]

Having the exact same problem with mine... what size line did you get for this?

[@JJ-vy4jz]

Hey can i do the same thing with steel braided lines on an r6? Or do I need to buy the AN fittings? I might just do it this way because it looks alotvsimpler than fitting the AN fittings.

[@garthhowe297]

The German authorities would like to speak to you about the use of an aftermarket fuel line. LOL!

[@AndyManCam]

Dammit! I didn’t think of that! I shall now forever ride in fear, dodging under the radar of legality and the strong arm of ze Big Brözer!

[@gintry2]

are they really have a problem with that?

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Hopefully not! As long as it’s a proper fuel hose...

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

That’s a smart upgrade mate. Was is there left to do? Perhaps a turbo kit! 😁

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers mate. A turbo would probably be a little bit more involved! But then winter is long and cold...

[@TheLegendaryLoso]

When i take my fuel line off the clip it just gushes out gas non stop. Does that mean its broke?

[@AndyManCam]

Is it gushing out non stop? There’s always a splash that comes out, but after that it should stop. Otherwise maybe a seal could be broken somewhere?

[@TheLegendaryLoso]

@@AndyManCam yes it spills out nonstop unless I flip the tank to its side or upside down

[@AndyManCam]

Oh dear. Might be a problem with the pump then. Without electric, it's supposed to stop and be sealed.

[@BulldogGaz]

👍

[@nicolascagegoodorbad198]

Was the kinked fuel line throwing a check engine code?

[@AndyManCam]

No, just boggin down the motor.

[@TequilaSunrise94]

How can I contact you I need some info because I am gonna buy a Yamaha fz1 N

[@AndyManCam]

I’m not really sure i am the expert you seek! Have a look on the forums and ask the far more knowledgable folks there! I’m sure they’ll help you better than I.

[@TequilaSunrise94]

Andy Man Cam thnx bro drive safe

[@AndyManCam]

No worries. Hope you find the info you want.

[@ollydubhead]

Did you ever change the clutch cable........? Was it fun....?!

[@AndyManCam]

I didn’t change it, but I did completely reroute it when I changed the handlebars. No. It was not fun!!

[@OldManTony]

I’m sure if you looked harder you could find a carbon fibre reinforced fuel hose 😉

[@AndyManCam]

Why didn’t I think of that!!! 🤩

[@christianweller4288]

Ha!.... I was going to say "there goes the fuel economy". Probably like running a Range Rover now. :D

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Great minds think alike! I was going to go test it today, but rain stops play!

[@Gintry]

Well it's not bad at all. Once I managed to do 180 miles on a tank... Last 60 with low fuel flashing bar, praying for petrol station. When I finally found one I squeezed 18.1ltr in 18 ltr tank .. really got there on fumes..

[@frenchy6254]

I personally always keep tissue to hand for any spillage when removing my hose 😇

[@frenchy6254]

And in all seriousness, thank you for the plethora of useful videos. I own a 2009 FZ1s and your calm methodical nature is incredibly useful when it comes to following your instructions. Keep up the good work Andy 👍🏻 (please)

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Nice one centurion!

[@AndyManCam]

My pleasure Keith. Thanks so much for watching. There are a few more garagey vids on the list for when it gets a bit warmer in the garage!

[@northernninjarunner5506]

Well done Yamaha for scrimping on a few £’s worth of fuel pipe.

[@AndyManCam]

I know right. #Winning

[@samdisen]

good dekinking

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks. Finally the dekinking training pays off.

[@natvega1]

That PA-12 ETFE fuel line isn't that cheap, actually bikes have caught on fire for using regular fuel line hose and not fuel injection high pressure lines, it can be done but it can burst under your legs at 48psi.😭

[@AndyManCam]

There’s no real pressure between the tank and the throttle bodies. After that, the pressure ramps up exponentially.

[@DaveDayve]

Did u get married recently? Wifey not allow u to go on any tours anymore? :-(

[@AndyManCam]

Hahaaa! Half right mate! Thankfully I’m off on tour next week to Scotland! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@DaveDayve]

@@AndyManCam ah fab stuff. Been missing yr videos out on the bike. Even a spin to the shops and a grumble or chin wag about something would be a great. Watch :-)

[@agdc24]

Dear Mr Andyman cam, I am horrified that there are still no tea or biscuits in sight when you make these garage videos, you are letting down every British garage, even tho you are in Germany now, there are some traditions you just have to keep, if this carries on I am going to be forced to report you to bill down on the allotment she'd, and I think you know how he get with this issue.

[@AndyManCam]

Busted!!! I promise that I would love NOTHING more than hot beverages and biscuits on hand at all times! Only problem is that I’ve got no power or water in the garage! It’s a terrible state of affairs, the conditions I’m forced to work in!

[@agdc24]

And don't forget the slurping sip lip smack and ah that better

[@24auhr]

four times hourly ? sounds like my ex wife .

[@AndyManCam]

Wow. That must have been exhausting. Still, worse things to complain about! 😂

[@holdencraig3010]

Ahhhh, I used to strangely get this issue when my fatass ex would ride pillion.

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! I think that might have been a slightly different cause though! 🤣