G-Fighter Development History

[@kakarot197]

Kakarot’s Notes: - For the G-Fighter Bomber Type, Space Type and Assault Landing Type, MSV-R has their Height listed as 17m, 17.5m, and 21.4m respectively (which is why you will also find this on fansites). However, this should’ve been their length. (For example, also in MSV-R, the Nelson-class, a modified Salamis, is listed as having a height of 228m. And the Salamis only has a height of only 61.3m, but a length of 228m, a perfect match) - In one episode, Sayla says that she’s launching in the G-Bull Easy, but she’s actually using the G-Bull. - Sometimes it's also said that 3 G-Fighters were delivered to the White Base. This is taken as 2 complete G-Fighters, and 1 complete unit worth of spare parts.

[@aliastheabnormal]

I heard that the toy developers forced the G-Fighter upon the show. But Tomino hated the concept and replaced it with the Core Booster in the movie remakes.

[@jonathansollars5935]

"For a brick it flew pretty good" - Sgt. Johnson.

[@omegaautistic]

what about the G falcon in think that should have been included

[@mjuneoginn]

The G-Fighter might be best to exist… AS a Gunpla battling other Gunpla in the world of Gundam Build Metaverse X._

[@omegaautistic]

@@mjuneoginn exactly

[@kl1thedominion]

Everything about the G-Fighter just screams "If we don't spend more money, our military budget is getting cut. Quick, make the biggest, dumbest, over-engineered thing we can rationalize and ship it." At the very least, looking at it that way makes me love the thing.

[@m4albino201]

Can't have sht with Feddie taxes😅

[@PorktatoesSSRB]

That explains why everything in the TITANS test team looks very expensive...

[@jaderabbit898]

@@PorktatoesSSRB Feds, after losing a NUKE and a bunch of MS and ships due to said NUKE: We're gonna fix this within the budget now. Also Feds with the TTT: Blank check.

[@m4albino201]

@jaderabbit898 also also feddies: hmm this unicorn thing, what does it do tho anyway? Also y da fak OUR Phenix is killing our crew!?

[@jaderabbit898]

@@m4albino201 The Feds make a lot of choices. Smart isn't one of them.

[@Wingalpha]

I believe it exist. its part of the weirdness of the 1 year war.The age of the super prototypes had to make some duds afer all. Dont tell me the g figther couldnt exist in a place where big zam and other weird ass ma units exist that are just as weird.

[@eisenklad]

if people watched Double Zeta before watching 0079, they might think the G-armor inspired the Double Zeta Fortress mode. 2 shields, it had an extra Core fighter, it had 2 beam cannons. and later on, it can fire micro missiles from the Bottom parts/Double Zeta backpack. maybe its tomino's side project..."i need a unique fighter"

[@frigginresulrum]

7:10 The core fighter...which is small enough to be inside of the Gundam...is also twice the size of that same Gundam. I love MSG quality screencaps.

[@Nehfarius]

I'd personally say the G-Fighter existed, and subflight systems like the Base Jabber were developed from it, but mainly focusing on their ability to act as mobile platforms and transports for a Mobile Suit or two.

[@nitev4407]

I take it this is partially influenced/inspired by the Robot Romance Trilogy series (Combattler V, Voltes V, and Daimos)... Those did pre-date the original Mobile Suit Gundam series...

[@miragebangbravern]

Or most likely Daitarn 3

[@nitev4407]

Can't wait for your Full Arnor Development History video (hopefully you also include the Full Armor versions from Unicorn and Thunderbolt).

[@kindlingking]

The best part of Full Armor project is that it never actually left the ground and the universe was spared from abominations it produced.

[@TheLordGlenn]

My MSIA Gundam + G-Fighter from when I was young makes me a believer. Heff the Core Booster.

[@U012]

I can't remember where I read this as it was 10+ years ago, but the G-fighter was coined in order for Bandai to make more toys and to have the Gundam appear to be more "super robot." Personality, I'm a Core Booster kind of person.

[@MST545]

12:20 I think they remained at Jaburo. In MS Igloo where we follow the Zeon drop squads trying to attack battleships that were being launched into orbit before the events of the actual attack by Char's group, there was an instance where a Z'Gok on a booster setup was moving to be picked up by a carrier before Core Fighters with G-Fighter mounted boosters ambush the transport, shooting it down and clipping the Z'Gok's booster and had the Z'Gok propel itself into a lake where the pilot would meet his end

[@matteomascaropennacchi2220]

Imagine Móbile suit built with Both Gundam or any mobile suit and G fighter so there’s no dificulty

[@kaisummers6736]

I'd like to always comically think about how the caterpillar threads were originally designed during the "speed racer" era of nonsense (in a good way) to sell toys that somewhere down the line they realized how ridiculous these things were that they slowly develop a lore around it to get the whole thing to fit into the whole gundam universe of weapons development. 🔥🔥☠🙃☠🔥🔥

[@belphe7621]

Just have the g-fighter as a delivery/drop system / support vehicle concept prototype that was shelved due to pilot safety and maintenance, and like had its data rolled back into the core fighter’s development and the non-gattai units. The Sp forces version could just be elongated with retractable armor and increased fuel capacity and thruster output. As for thruster output: um, why is Paptimus so young in Z Gundam? 0079 totes has some ftl stuff, so that output is probably doable

[@byarlantcustom4265]

Yknow, now that im thinkin bout it, the G-Fighter is basically the AeroGavin of the Gundam universe

[@sXeAndriex]

I quite like the prototype G Fighter. A lot of established lore mentions the federations MS pilots were pulled from their pool of fighter pilots. I can absolutely see the brass attempting to take the proven power of the prototype MS and apply it to the proven, and familiar to grunts, plane form factor. My headcanon has it as a failed experiment, as we see MS combat dominating the future of warfare. I also use MS Igloo as "proof" that there was active propaganda and disinformation campaigns actively being waged during the OYW. Any appearance of a weapon, such as the G-Parts, can be attributed to enemy rumors being coopted and used for disinformation by Federation forces. After all, combat testimonies would be hazy with so few survivors from the Gundam's sorties and it's increasing cult-like reputation.

[@HereticalKitsune]

Love these technical deep dives on lore!

[@MADSLAYER47]

there was definitely corruption going on developing this monstrosity behind the scenes lol

[@silvermknight]

I freaking love the G-Fighter. Its like trying to cram super robot tropes into a real robot show.

[@PapTheKnut]

I have never understood the apeal of the corebooster, dont like the g-armor either. The CoreFighter I've always seen as a fancy escape pod, strapping a booster to it seems like a good idea for escaping but it seem's like a bigger target in a fight. The G-armor's dumb, but the G-fighter's problem is it's a space tank that's treated like a jet, it should only be used in zero g. Also sad the GF-Tank didn't get a mention in this or the Guntank video, to me combinig the two makes perfect sense, to the point it now my headcannon that the G-Fighter is an offshoot of the Guntank.

[@anderson9244MLG]

Yes, the thing that makes Tomino seethe lmao 💀

[@MasterSwo-MK]

A few things to say here. First the history, I think it's a case of the G-Fighter existing, the White Base crew telling the top brass(non to nicely I might add) that it sucked and was a waste of time, so the Feds gave them the much better Core Boosters and tried to pretend the G-Fighter was never a thing, at least as far as being a Gundam support module. As a multi-purpose combat aircraft, they went all in with. (Bomber and Space types) Of course they would also look into the things the G-Fighter DID help the Gundam with and that would naturally result in the Base Jabber. On the other side of the spectrum, that Proto G-Fighter totally blows the final version to hell! It's so much better! It looks better for starters, yes it's still a block, but it's a good block! The module concept is much more efficient, I mean it's a 3-man fighter squadron in one compact package! Imagine a battleship filled with these things, and then recall they can slit into three! Yeah boi! The fact it DOES NOT need the Gundam to achieve full potential should've been a no-brainer! And that Gym Intercept Ignas just SCREAMS potential! In short, Proto G-Fighter rules! Final G-Fighter(before repurposing) drools!

[@Quanfalone]

WHEN KITBASHING GOES HORRIBLY WRONG OH GOD MY EYES

[@henryfleischer404]

I prefer original gundam over the movies, but this thing is pretty absurd. It feels very much like it's made to sell toys. And me and my brother could not figure out what was up with the 2 shields.

[@LuoSon312_G8]

wait, if the G-Fighter doesn't exist, then what was Sleggar piloting the whole time the White Base was on Earth?

[@BashoftheMonth]

I feel like the ZZ needs to fit in here somewhere.

[@zero195]

In concept, it could have worked, if it worked with the other Operation V suits. It could have been something similar to Gundam AGE, (or Zoids Generation 0), where the G Fighter could have been used to support the active unit, and change their loadout on the fly (IE battlefield kit bashing, lol).

[@megagundamva2694]

Personally I like the th fighter over the core booster it's just cooler and I love the g armor mode yeah I can live without the g sky and especially the g bull

[@jeremysnead9233]

There is no air resistance or gravity in space high speeds are far easier to obtain.

[@tacticianM]

Please do gelgoog soon

[@anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470]

I go by what was in the original anime so the g fighter did exist

[@pandoranbias1622]

My main issue with the G-Fighter is that it is extremely inconsistent with Gundam's "real robot" theming. It is a clear hold-over from Gundam's Super Robot heritage.

[@thecheese4255]

Some elements of the original UC anime need to be left in the dustbin of hx...

[@BassGSothertype]

I have an idea, why not do a Development history video of the Gespenst series of the SRW series (Original Generation timeline mainly)

[@nikoladedic6623]

Do we have full development history for it available?

[@BassGSothertype]

@@nikoladedic6623 There should be one considering how expansive the Gespy series is

[@RedemptionWarrior]

G-Fighter... Core Booster... Why not both?

[@aquavengeance]

I’d like to imagine that the first show is the canon way where with the various applications the G-Fighter had, they were improved upon to make Base Jabbers and the G-Defenser. The concept of the Gundam combining with the G-Fighter to fly would then evolve to mobile suits with flight transformations.

[@marcosdheleno]

exactly, it fits more in line, specially since later, we do see stuff like the ex-s deep striker which is basically the ex-s with its own core b-parts. sue, it looks like a giant toy, but so what? the rx-78 does as well, and so does 90% of the crap from zeon.

[@Knightlyfrog]

Ah yes, the G-S.N.A.F.U. The weapon system made exclusively for service in the toy store theater of operations.

[@jaderabbit898]

Ah yes, the G-SNAFU, stands for G-Stopgap Non-functional Armaments Full of Uselessness.

[@twelfthknight]

I think the real issue I have with the G-Fighter is it was clearly forced on to the production of the Mobile Suit Gundam anime. There are quite a few scenes with Amuro and Sayla either training with the G-Fighter equipment or being made to bring it out into active battle which felt aggressively like filler to pad out an episode. I think it falls into the area of the Zock of Zakrello where you could salvage it with a few design changes, but I'm not going to begrudge it being replaced with the Core Booster. The Core Booster is cool.

[@KuruniXD]

According to Gundam Sousei manga, it is. G-Fighter was introduced after Gundam's rating hit rock bottom. Tomino need to added some cool toys in order to keep the show afloat.

[@itsgrey8135]

​@@KuruniXDThat's pretty believable ngl, especially since the original gundam series was cut short from what the original episode count was supposed to be

[@theonewhowatches869]

Okay, this is just me spitballing and it would certainly require some modifications, but if I was on the White Base I'd actually suggest having the G-Fighter link up to the Guntank instead. It doesn't provide much to the superbly powerful and agile Gundam, but by giving the Guntank improved speed and flight capabilities, you could deploy it better in space or rough terrain, while giving it an even wider range of attack. Mainly thinking about this in the context of a Guntank Sky/Guntank + B-Parts, but I'm sure other configurations could have their merits

[@ArchusKanzaki]

I am pretty sure Hayato have move on to using another Guncannon by the time Amuro came up with the idea of using Gundam upper-half and use the B-part as makeshift booster to combat Zeon's MA. Another point of Guntank is that, it actually have 2 pilots. One in the Core Block, and another on clear cockpit on the top, like a tank. The idea have some merit in the sense that, you can use Hayato's Core Block instead of Amuro's Core Block when deployment of Guntank is infeasible.... but that does not use any of the Guntank either, and it just become normal G-Armor/Fighter/Sky by then.

[@ninjaguy_12]

Glad to see that the federation wanted to add things to mobile suits that clearly didn't need them or were pointless... Re-GZ *cough cough*

[@kakarot197]

Which made it into the video as a good bad example lol

[@primusvsunicron1]

the Re-GZ was supposed to be cheap MP Zeta but somehow the Re-GZ was too expensive 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheDarkkilla12]

Ironic since in my opinion the GZ looked like an expensive and somehow unnecessary stopgap suit in my opinion.

[@nathanmartin9165]

I prefer the G-Figter as it’s more of a special unit for Salyla to use as well as it’s just more survivable the a fighter with a big surface area to attack. It’s also important in the ZZ development and it’s no less strange to other MA in the OYW. Bandai seam to flip flop as despite the movies removing it, it has returned in games and retellings. i think if records say that their where 2 G-armors or 2 core boosters, then we can just say their was one of each to fix the problem. Both have been seen together in other media anyway

[@vustvaleo8068]

meanwhile Yoshiyuki Tomino's reaction to the G-Fighter is "BEGONE TOY GIMMICK ABOMINATION FORCED TO US BY THAT DAMN SPONSOR CLOVER".

[@primusvsunicron1]

Clover: ADD MORE GIMMICKS

[@erniestrother3545]

Yes! I love the G fighters and Mobile Armors, they are all so unique and interesting. Great work as always and thank you for making me a Gundam fan again! And happy thanksgiving everyone.

[@SteveElOtaku]

The G-Fighter/G-Armor is such a beautifully 1970s piece of design. It just screams "Yes, I also made Daitarn 3 and Zambot 3 and Popy is breathing down my neck for more toy concepts."

[@tensazero]

The G-armor was further simplified into the G-Defenser for the MK2. Turning the combined into the Super Gundam. By that time it already got redesigned into Zeta. Then ZZ comes full circle looking like a blocky G-armor with legs and arms.

[@suspoliceedyo6814]

This has been my favorite series! I'm glad Kakarot has made another episode.

[@ORLY911]

honorable mention to the ZZ Gundams G Fortress mode for being a homage and may or may not have been referenced in development. There actually was a version of the ZZ dedicated to fortress mode as a bomber if i remember correctly, paralleling the bomber type g fighter

[@SoulstrikerV]

I used to play Gihren's Greed. In there, you can mass produce anything, including Gundams. So when I needed jets late in the OYW, I deployed a bunch of G-Armors instead of having to lose an army of Saberfish and Tin Cods who can get go down with one shot. And then ditch them mid-combat or during preparation when I wanted my Gundams back (although there's already a bunch of other Gundams deployed all over the world even with the G-Armors around)

[@davishayden429]

9:49 Although my memories of the One Year War are a bit hazy, I distinctly remember seeing the G-Fighter on more than one occasion.

[@Disgaustang]

Oh my god the halberd in the old clover toy was turned into the unicorns beam javalin that is so cool

[@Circ00mspice]

This is such a wierd excuse to sell toys

[@miragebangbravern]

To be fair, it was a 70's anime series where mecha anime particularly Super Robots were getting incredibly popular. Even though Gundam is a Real Robot show and the first of its kind even, the execs wanted something close to a Super Robot for the kids so yeah....

[@GundamKType]

Honestly, I don't see why people hate on the g fighter. It's more useful and more powerful than the corebooster. And it might be because I heavily prefer the anime over the compilation movies but even still, I still think it's better. I mean, i'd much rather have beam cannons and a plethora of missiles, then beam cannons and a few machine guns that don't really do very much damage. And being able to dock with the gundam means it can make independent sorties in areas far from its home base. It was literally designed to be a support fighter and a base jabber in one.

[@mightyrobot42]

I liked the way the G-Fighter facilitated dialogue scenes between Amuro and Sayla (since Amuro would be piloting the Gundam while Sayla piloted the G-Fighter.) Not sure how they handled those scenes in the compilations (I've only seen the series.) As an overall design, though, it's not great.

[@jackmelcher434]

The G-Fighter was removed from the compilation movies of MSG. Any scenes that they were kept, were replaced with the Core Booster. So there was significantly less dialogue between Amuro and Sayla.

[@MarxMayhem]

Can't wait for Zeta Gundam and ZZ Gundam development history!

[@nikoladedic6623]

Yeah, some of these stuff was clearly left over from super robot genre. Especially that shield nonsense.

[@gonzoengineering4894]

Babe wake up, Kakarot197 posted a new Development History

[@allenusison3124]

The G-Fighter, Voltes V-looking as it is, just have to be shelved before the White Base left for space and switch them to Core Boosters. Don't ask, I mean, Tomino made Voltes, then Clover did the rest.

[@miqoto]

perhaps the G-Full was a mistranslation of the G-Bull?(front unit part) housing a MS in it made no sense other than as a super robot type story anime the G-fighter/armor was replaced in the movie version, just like the Guntank in space LOL

[@hunterjones8434]

I find it kinda funny the max speed of this thing, but, I cannot see this brick reaching anywhere close to Mach 3.5 due to a lack of aerodynamic efficiency and its sheer mass. I’ll admit, I could be possible in space, but in atmosphere, that’s just simply unrealistic. At least, this is my opinion.

[@aliastheabnormal]

And THIS is what Tomino thought was more realistic than the Guntank?! True Story by the way.

[@GPowtlaw2]

Yeah baby!

[@jordonnicoli6093]

G-Fighter was another prototype. That had a number of various that was a waste of money and materials that could be used for something else.

[@wou5.09]

Buy why there was no mention of g defenser from Zeta anywhere in the video? I always thought he was a kind of successor to the g armor line

[@Felix24148]

Shame. You forgot the Jet Core Booster (AKA Core E-Z) from 08th MS Team, which is another simplified variant of the design that even removed most of the core fighter altogether, and just used the front part of it.

[@chriswriter9087]

I love the G-Fighter/G-Armor, it’s very 1970s.

[@AJ_Dodgestar]

The Core Booster makes more sense, but the G-Fighter is just cooler to look at....until it docks with the Gundam and starts to be silly XD But the sight of the Gundam riding on top of the G-Fighter is just too damn cool.

[@classicalthrasher]

Thanks so much for all this lore! About two weeks ago, I purchased the HGUC G-Armor/Fighter/etc. locally and am excited to build it! Especially because it comes with an unique, "old" RX-78-2. :) I like all the goofiness involved in the different modes, even if some made little sense. (Camp core booster-more fun that way.) ;)

[@arthurhill8185]

My favorite parts of Gundam are these toyetic nonsense machines that have barely coherent explanations. They're so good. So much more fun than the stuff that's toned down to almost be kind of plausible if you squint. It's never gonna be plausible. Let's just have fun! Like, there is no world in which any of this makes ANY logistical sense, but it's undeniably such a cool concept. Gundam needs more of this wacky creativity.

[@PsychoStreak]

The G-Fighter as it appeared in the Anime totally existed. Like most of the things on White Base, it was a rushed prototype that tried to do too many things at once. The modularity meant that units could use the parts they needed most. If the 08th team had received the G-Parts, the tank portion would have gotten a LOT more use. The simple ability to retract the treads would make way more sense, but if they'd had time for that they could also have spent time getting the G-Parts to work with the Guncannon and Guntank, for some really wacky, but effective combos. As for it's top speed, there's a saying that with enough thrust, anything will fly. If you can accept that the 60 ton Gundam can jump high enough to chase rockets and leap up onto Gau's in flight, then it, combined with the additional power of the G-Parts can hit Mach 3+. The XB-70 Valkyrie Bomber weighs 240 tons (Metric) and could exceed Mach 3, so it's not at all impossible, even with the drag of tank treads for the G-Parts to do the same with tech that is at least a century newer. As for the Core Booster, tat I see as an adaptation of tech that was developed for the Saberfish fighter for space use that they realized could also work as a support unit for a mobile suit with very few modifications. The reduction in firepower vs the G-Fighter though, seems like a tradeoff that Amuro and the WB crew would not make except for the few instances where speed was more important. Having both present on WB however does offer maximum flexibility, so for me, they were both there, but the Core Booster was added at Jaburo for use in space. Amuro's field change to make the shields stack was actually brilliant. He'd recently encountered the Doms, which broke one shield, so he needed better defense anyway. Stacked shields was quick and effective.

[@Takeshi_Yamato_103]

I'm in camp Core Booster, though I do like your new headcanon with the G-Fighter being developed alongsider the Guntank, Guncannon, and Gundam. ...Though at the same time, I ALSO think that the G-Fighter CONCEPT led to the development of things like the G-Defensor from Zeta (that thing that linked with the Mk-II to form the Super Gundam).

[@seasirocco3063]

G-fighter also lead to the ZZ gundam as well I believe.

[@deepstrike9750]

I love the g fligter ot was to me like the mobile armor version of a federation of the mobile armor

[@borgar1765]

ooooh, nice choice for a video! by the way Kakarot do you have any idea what's up with AoZ illustration releases on dengeki hobby? they've been pretty consistent for most of the year but now we've gone over a month without any. Just wondering if there's any info, and since Fujioka had serious health issues before i'm kinda worried for him

[@maximgvozdic3009]

Fantastic video and head cannon theory. I for one can’t wait for your next Gundam what if; especially the next part of What if Amaro got the Alex.

[@crimsonvz]

It flys pretty good for a brick… lol I love the g-fighter and now I kind of wanna get another HG and mod it

[@tomhuynh3867]

Head canon wise, WB got the G units around Operation Odessa to test out, while after Jaburo they swap out for Core boosters. The core booster development was to recycle the obsolete core block system of Project V. The G unit seems like left over units to compensate as a stop gap for battle strength hence the variants and usage by other military teams.

[@zachelkins1229]

For me, I say the G-fighter existed, much like the rest of the stuff on white base it was a part of project V. The booster was a refinement of purpose (end eventually developed into SFS) with the rest of the variants largely being "we have these almost finished frames but looks like the Gundam and its support equipment won't be the actual standard. May as well make lemonade." As for the Spec Ops variation, that makes some sense as those guys like their high-speed insertion tools.

[@tuckerfromwotblitz3649]

When are we getting the gm development history because we can get multiple videos like the zaku 2 video

[@kakarot197]

20:50 technically this also counts as a GM development history

[@Arro3]

I remember having the MSIA of this and the RX-78 as a kid. I liked Transformers as well so it was cool to have a transforming Gundam that could split into the Sky and Bull modes. So many little pieces, though.

[@mangamanzx]

Ya know I can see the G fighter being a thing, because it is very in character for the Federation to make a jet thing that docks with a mobile suit in order to make it transform... it's basically the same mindset that brought up the Re-GZ's back weapons system... which i think is where the federation would have went with the concept after they made the core booster... Basically my headcannon is the same as yours but add on that the concept was later used to make the back weapons system of the Re-GZ which would also explain why they thought that failure of a transformation was a good idea, it worked before so why not do so again?

[@pugwash1]

personally I think the g-figther does exist I mean these variant's didnt just pop up out of no where but the issues it had proably meant it wasn't exactly the best support it was meant for leading to the variants and the core booster so did it exist yes but praobly was used for data and proably left for scrap after said variants and core booster were made

[@afelias]

What really annoys me about how the G-Fighter actually got used by the Gundam was that if it really was designed to be a sub-flight system, then it was never really used that way in atmosphere, like the Dodais with the Zakus. If they had just designed it around that, and maybe even produced a few for the Gundam Ground Types, that would have been more useful than the G-Armor combination/transformation.

[@SuperTrainStationH]

This thing is dumb to my adult eyes, but as a kid I purchased the toy of this thing because I thought the combinations were cool in the show, you can’t argue with success.

[@themrfives]

"A suprise to be sure but a welcome one."

[@Marisa_arts]

We need it to be 100% cannon and also in the Movie, near the end of the 3rd movie, as Sayla is going to find Amuro and Char, you can see the G-Fighter in the background. So it is cannon and it may have been mistaken as the White Base G-Fighter due to how close it was to the White Base itself and also may have had the WB insignia that was never changed as it may have been a last minute change of hands and thus mistaken to be part of the WB Crew after the war ends when they are seeing the damages. This means that at one point the G-Fighter may have been in the White Base but never used due to the lack of a Manual and then transferred over to another unit later once they reached space to a different unit before the Battle of A Boua Qu, so both versions do exist and is part of the cannon which means that the Core Booster is a different take on the G-Fighter concept and finished later than the G-Fighter itself and thus put in limited numbers to aid those who are skilled more often than not, White Base getting it maybe General Reval playing favorites and giving them the best gear for the time.

[@magnatcleo2043]

I'd imagine that the White Base getting core fighters would probably be less playing favorites, and more the Federation leadership just sending over whatever was new because the White Base was basically one of their beta test teams.

[@Marisa_arts]

@@magnatcleo2043 it was honestly a mix bag for what White Base was After General Revan died, it then became a Beeta Test Team until The Battle of Solomen. Which is where Revel had died. Revel himself may have been playing favorites for White Base and not tell anyone about it under the gize of them being their best shot for winning the war and a great distraction, so why not send them all the new and best gear to make Zeon waste a lot more on this ship and less on the other fronts. Play into the Propaganda a bit for the WB Crew.

[@reform-revolution]

I had the toy of this when I was little (still have bits and pieces in a storage box) it was fairly cool to play with cause it did come with the Gundam so it could be built right out of the box edit: they literally strapped rockets onto an M113 ...... they made the GAVIN decades before sparks

[@DealsFS]

I like the G-fighter, but since CCA takes the compilation movies are closer with authorial intent and the ones that get referenced in CCA. So G-fighter never happened and anyone who says it existed clearly is clearly participating in a psy-op/propaganda campaign.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

I really like the G-fighter. I don't think its any less realistic than the gundam or even the core booster. The G-sky is literally the same thing. And the g fighter is just a super plane. Reminds me of how the mobile armors were in 0083 like the val walo. Like a federation mobile armor. Look how big those got with a gundam inside it. The using gundam parts is unnecessary. Stupid or bad design. But as part of the V line it makes sense. As part of copying Zeon, it makes sense. Like at the big zam. The versatility isn't bad. Only the bull is a little bad. And its still an extra tank without the gundam. the G fighter by itself works.

[@docbaker3333]

Dude the Prototype G Fighter sounds amazing Why the EDF didn't keep it like that I may never know.

[@possiblycrazy442]

~ 20:43 15 Caliber is a very bizarre choice for things of this size. By not saying 15mm, I assume that they do mean the typical inch measurement of caliber. Like 50 caliber (correctly as .50 which is half an inch). Surely they don't mean .15 which is 3.81mm. They must mean an actual no-decimal 15 inches. So like 381mm. But that's substantially bigger than a Zaku bazooka...

[@Lambda3141]

The G-Armor/G-Fighter is just so intensely "toyetic" I can't bring myself to like it. The design is a cluttered mess. The Core Booster looks so much nicer and more realistic. I'd love a MG Core Booster kit! But hey, Clover were the ones originally paying the bills, so without their goofy toy designs we'd never have ANY Gundam.

[@impreza0109]

the idea behind the ZZ Gundam was to reproduce the operating functions of the RX-78-2 Gundam and the G-Armor in a single machine, hence we have the G-Fortress mode of the ZZ So yeah, I'm going to the G-Armor camp, because admittedly without the G-Armor we wouldn't have the ZZ Gundam

[@riptide1ful]

The Prototype looks cool.

[@RynerGT]

In my mind, so head canon it is then, the G fighter was used from Odessa up to going to space after Jaburo. Then when Sleggar joined they gave him and Sayla the new Core Booster. Then again, there are a lot of things in my head cannon that don't line up with any of the versions so yeah...

[@kimarykorlumiose7728]

17:30 I'm struck by how much it looks like the Skygrasper 18:19 WHAT IN THE SILPHEED FUCK LMAO

[@SpexSpexington]

The whole concept of tank treads on a fighter jet/bomber was so stupid to me, so I'm going with the "It truly didn't exist" theory. If you have something like the G Fighter and it tried to land like a normal plane, the treads would break apart. Even if it landed like a Harrier jet, I feel like the threads would likely slip off their tracks or something. I will say though... The part about how the Gundam was later able to have two overlapping shields was pure "genius." Especially with how forced it was to make the G Fighter fit into the show. I especially loved the animation where the shield overlapped the other one, and just vanished. "Magic!"

[@triedge366]

Have you ever thought about comparing Mobile Suit Gundam with Gundam Seed since Seed plot beats play out as an alternative One Year War scenario as in what one may have do better then the other without having the obvious difference in story getting in the way. Things like the Strike vs Gundam , the Skygrasper vs G - fighter or Core Booster, White Base vs Archangel kind of things.

[@Cynimax]

Nah. You're a coward if you believe the compilation movies history revisionism. What really happened was after the OYW, the Federation realized how stupid and ineffective the G Fighter was, and instead made the Dendrobium.

[@Gambit17]

One of the few times where I have to disagree with you. I'm firmly in Camp G-Fighter. The Core Boosters are probably a better idea, but they just seem so generic to me. The G-Fighter, on the other hand, is just ridiculous, and I love that. It's like someone was sitting down and thinking "Create the craziest combination of a fighter and a tank, and then shove a Gundam into it."

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

While the G-Armor system is too gimmicky for my tastes; the G-Fighter ironically seems to be more reasonable than the other aspects of the system. Aside from it being unusually fast. Though ultimately I'm more of a fan of the Core Booster. Especially as it seems more practical in the vacuum of space. I can't imagine the G-Fighter doing the same; much like with the Guntank.