How I caught my FRIEND cheating in Tarkov

The story of how I discovered a friend was cheating. I do a deep dive into everything hacking in first person shooters. Is there a future without cheaters? What can games like Escape from Tarkov do to prevent hacking? And how do they even work? All of this and more.
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[@bradenwoods1111]

I feel the same as that cheater when he said he can't be bothered to lose 45mins to an exit camper...only my solution was not to play, instead of ruin everyone else's day

[@hanswurst-ej3qj]

its a lame excuse of that guy tbh. he can just play the raid normally.. and turn on his cheats when going to the exit. people who cheat in online games ( for non rmt reasons) are absolute dimwits.

[@ikkstrikknak]

He enjoys kill other people and ruin their game... If it was the reason he mentioned he'd be playing tarkov single player with cheats...

[@hanswurst-ej3qj]

@@ikkstrikknak as i said he must be a dimwit. ;)

[@rodiculous9464]

it's the same entitlement of people that buy RMT......"waaaah i dont have time! i NEED it MOOOOOOOM"

[@jessecraft1199]

No shot that’s the real rationale. He’s just trying to make himself feel less scummy.

[@Akusei]

I wish we all would stop calling them "hackers". These people are CHEATERS plain and simple, they aren't hacking, they're buying cheats from cheat developers. I'm sure there are hackers out there that do cheat, but they would then be labeled a CHEATER not a hacker

[@Akusei]

To be clear, I absolutely very much dislike cheaters and hate cheating

[@dabinhaler1337]

scriptkiddies

[@rugdoc97]

People use hacker as the same meaning as cheater it will never be fixed they will continue to do so

[@davidhogan1458]

I always say this, They're cheaters not hackers!!!!!

[@Mr.Finklebottom]

Hacking would refer to anything that changes the game or system code. Downloading cheats does change game and/or system code to allow for impossible things to be done. Cheating is using something like exploits and glitches to your advantage. When people use aimbots or wall hacks, it’s hacking, if someone uses an exploit like in the many games where you can use invincibility glitches, that’s cheating. These people in the video are hacking, not just cheating, as they are using software that changes the way your game functions, this is something that cannot be done with something like an exploit or glitch. And people will never stop using hacker to replace cheater, it’s too common-use at this point and more often than not, they’re more correct calling them a hacker than just a cheater.

[@skoodlemoose]

the "cheater mannerisms" is something that i started noticing a long time ago. It's impossible to describe but it's super obvious when you hear it

[@yeeter7090]

its almost like double speak if you understand what i mean. or they allude very very vaguely to just being better or skill diffed but in a cheating way. its just obvious because they dont talk like people that have confidence usually do, and they can never describe why they do things in the process of cheating. its just a thing they do to them.

[@JustiasFitzgerald]

Speak normally. Now try speaking normally while smiling. Some words will be easy to match, others nearly impossible to match. Mostly, it's rather difficult to hide when you are smiling while talking. Ever heard of dupers' delight? That's what happening here on a subtle level. You are picking up on the audible change in speech pattern when these cheaters/liars communicate.

[@iguess2739]

@@JustiasFitzgerald What a well caught detail.

[@dankbonkripper2845]

​@JustiasFitzgerald yep. they all talk like a 5 year old who thinks he got away with taking the cookie from the cookie jar.

[@peik_haikyuu2265]

@@dankbonkripper2845 When I was a teenager I was into hack vs hack on csgo and still to this day, playing other games, I can hear that exact tone in these kids today that I had almost 10 years ago lol.

[@Imsosappy]

In my personal experience, serial cheaters have a combination of these 3 different traits more then the "average" person: - Low self esteem - Low levels of empathy/sympathy - Higher level of selfishness/entitlement Some of these are innate and some of these feed into one another.

[@Montaph]

Underrated comment. This 100%. Believe it or not, those pop up in criminology as well (specifically the lack of empathy and entitlement).

[@3nertia]

It's almost as if capitalism conditions the vast majority of people to acquire these traits to thrive heh

[@AliShuktu]

@@3nertia Tell this to cheaters from China. Or are they now capitalist too?

[@fire9042]

@@3nertia Then why are there so many Russian and Chinese cheaters?

[@3nertia]

@@fire9042 Not sure what point you're trying to make with that question - how does being Russian or Chinese, in any way, make what I said untrue?

[@ChaNnArD-mD]

Cheaters have ruined this game for me, thank you for trying to educate people about this.

[@kyndred-ry5mm]

same

[@moisesalfonso1619]

Bro facts game is so broken and its still in beta

[@clalam5241]

@@moisesalfonso1619 yep this is the cheaters fault .

[@clalam5241]

The only game with a huge cheating problem , this must mean its the cheaters fault and not the developer .

[@johnycricket8743]

pretty much ruining all games

[@z0h33y]

The guy Rofl, with the Alf avatar, "I'm the BOSS", "do you understand that?" LOL. Guy is so full of himself.

[@Remsster]

And claims to make the hack as a hobby, I don't understand why so many cheaters make this claim, it so obvious it isn't true. They never even know anything about coding

[@ironmann16]

I played with a friend from Europe for literally over 2 years, and never suspected him once to be cheating. He finally came up in one of the ban waves for a wipe. I asked him about it, and he just straight up told me "yeah bro lol. I was hacking the whole time". I was blown away. He always seemed like a solid player, but he never slipped up even once to give himself away. I was equal parts pissed, and impressed that he'd managed to hide it for so long. I've played EFT since the very first alpha patch, and it truly pains me to see it being abused by cheaters constantly.

[@Kmangod]

Its called ethics, and cheaters have zero ethics. Never trust a cheater.

[@sandking8010]

Bro I don’t support cheating or anything but don’t act deep about some fucking pixels

[@touchofthorn1841]

Bro is acting like cheating in a game makes you a bad person

[@dobby383]

@@touchofthorn1841 it tells alot about you as a person

[@rh.m6660]

@@touchofthorn1841 Because it does. It shows lack of morals, it means you will do things if you can get away with it. Its actually base sociopathic behaviour and has been documented as such in other forms of cheating.

[@easeclaps9390]

So you're basically calling people who cheat in video ganes sociopaths (people with ASPD)​@@rh.m6660

[@Chris-jq8db]

This is the best content I've seen out of Tarkov in a long time. This felt more like a documentary than a "fast" piece of content. Well done.

[@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii]

deep fallatio

[@DoomSlayer-ow4jq]

The talk how cheaters talk is true. I met someone that was like that. Then they replaced the motherboard and their personality changed. That confidence level was gone and the fear was present.

[@kerberos2568]

what do you mean he replaced his motherboard and then he changed? is that related to cheating?

[@DoomSlayer-ow4jq]

@@kerberos2568 yeah confidence level diminished versus running ESP. Confidence level looking like a hero with ESP. Let me explain more if you need more.

[@sparks6177]

@@kerberos2568 the motherboard was banned due to cheats. He replaced the motherboard but for whatever reason didn’t continue hacking, that’s when the fear set in, no more cheats

[@jtisbucketingtheboat]

​@@kerberos2568 If he gets hardware banned, one way to get around it is to change your motherboard. It's how cheaters on Sea of Thieves get around hardware bans.

[@rugdoc97]

Why would he replace it when he could have spoofed it

[@bernardpoupart]

3 months later and here we are, in the video that kickstart all of this. this whole saga is incredible, and an service to all game communities

[@Xoilen]

I don’t play with anyone ever again in any game they’ve cheated in. How can you have fun when you’re running software that just plays the game for you? I’ve seen so many cheaters say shit like “holy shit I’m so good” after winning or killing someone. It’s like their brain is wired different, if they’re told they win then it’s a win to them, even if they didn’t earn it.

[@_XxXxX]

The big problem of this video, other's videos, and general thinking about cheating, is that you guys are putting everyone in the same basket. There's is less cheaters that think like you're describing it, and how ret**ded cheatears describes it in this video, than cheaters that just cheat to relax. Quick word tho, listen to this g0at last words, because it's how you guys feel when dying from a guy that cheat in a correct way, you just don't know, and just take it as a legit death. In the end you'd think it's the same, but it's not. And no matter what you, or this guy in the video could say, if you can't understand what i'm pointing here, you're for sure, the d*mb guy out there, not the cheater you're NOT complaining about because you'd never know he's cheating. You guys just need to stop compare ret**ded/rage cheaters with the ones that cheats since years and never got caught because they, in fact, ruins no ones games. They just relax, and die in game when they have to die, but they still have that peace of mind about losing stuff, or gettting their play time ruined because they gave this raid to a guy, but they'll maybe take the other one to compensate, or even give a 2/1 ratio, or 3/1 to peoples. We (because yes, i'm not afraid about admitting i'm cheating, since in fact, i've never denied it), are not the ones that ruins your games, and trust me, watching video like this, with cheaters like this, hurts me as much as you to hear and see all that BS. When we, the closet cheaters are cheating, trust me, if you guys die on a FPS, you had your chance to not die, like for real, we do nothing strange, nothing impossible, yes we are prepared to see you, but never ever we are killing you without imitating a legit player's move by adding, reaction time, less accuraccy, fast check peeking or anything just to tell you "hey, i'm there, good luck to you". All of this to say that just like the cheaters in this video, you guys will never change, because even after getting the explanation of why most peoples cheats, you'll deny it and tell me to go fm because i'm and we are just like them in your mind. So, think about it. Who's the real problem there, me? you? or just both of us getting tired of cheaters and so for the good parts we just prefer to cover our back? Have a good day :) PS: the peoples i'm playing with hates cheaters, but it appears that when getting the right explanation, and not what you're hearing in the video, they suddenly understand that i'm in fact doing nothing wrong if just having fun playing normally, like you, or them. I understand that it takes some IQ to get what i'm saying, but hey, i can't save everyone from their dumbness.

[@freespace771]

Like the hacker guy said you can spot a hacker just by looking at his stats. Dont see why a AI bot cant be trained to look at player stats for near impossible combination of player k/d, survival ratio, way above average loot value per raid etc. Have the AI spit out 5 suspects a day for a human to follow them around for a few hours with a in game camera and watch them play.

[@IgnoreMeImWrong]

That's more money.

[@moneyshock]

Because historically statistical anomalies are unfortunately actually very common causing innocent people to be banned, and any fixed "ceilings" of suspicion inevitably get solved by the cheaters, who will then adapt their cheats to allow people to stay just under them. This is why statistics should be used to flag people as suspicious accounts rather then outright banning them immediately.

[@MidnightMarrow]

@@IgnoreMeImWrong Money well spent if their game doesn't die because of all the BS cheaters lol. Kind of takes money to make money, doesn't matter if it's a game or a company selling physical goods, the world revolves around it and the better companies realize this and are constantly balancing what they need to spend to keep a steady stream coming in.

[@khure711]

While I agree k/d can be a typical marker, some games it just doesn’t work like COD. Given this is old COD like MW2 I had 14/1 k/d. And you might be asking how could this be possible? Super camper with claymores and sniper. Find the cheesiest camper spot in the map, cover your flanks with claymores. By time they start fixating on your position you have your kill streaks and you just run it up. So again in theory yes I think most games could go off of K/D but some will not work out so well.

[@AlexLoveMilk]

​@@khure711nobody here is worried about cod, we're talking about EFT.

[@kodiak85]

Dude, your content is great! I've been watching for a couple of months now, and I really feel like you'll be popping off any day soon! Good luck and keep grinding.

[@g0atmoth]

I really appreciate the comment!

[@zenix3318]

@@g0atmoth aged like a fine wine lol

[@InThaKorner]

15:20 I love how you built it up and the transition into a Lexapro commercial..😂

[@yourhighschoolenglishteach8405]

21:12 Evoker doesn’t just “not want to deal with cheaters”. he wants to BE the cheater. as long as he’s the one ruining everybody’s day, he’s satisfied.

[@nathanmurphy8211]

As a software engineer, your computer analogy and explanation of DMA devices was incredible and accurate!

[@brysonloko2456]

we need a sorta ref cheat with no weapons for certified people to storm lobbys and look for cheaters lmao

[@DimeszTV]

I love how you went through all the trouble to edit anytime you said his name and at 12:03 you missed one.

[@I.Fumblebee.I]

Bro just liked your comment. I can't lmao.

[@fivesisalive6071]

Man hit you with the winky face good job. I'm weak haha.

[@Gamerboychase69]

How tf can you read it? After I saw your comment I've spent like 10 mins trying my hardest and all I can come up with is like "pwnd" or something idk

[@FlyingWaffleZombie]

@@Gamerboychase69 read it? Bro he said it

[@Gamerboychase69]

@@FlyingWaffleZombie oh shit I guess I didn't understand him the first time watching it lol. Is he saying raf? Or rass?

[@karatefylla]

I love how professional his setup is and then there's the plate with half eaten soup ^^

[@slumy8195]

dont worry the cat cleans up the leftovers

[@MIKEx2112]

They're cheaters....Not hackers

[@ItzWithStupidVR]

Saying hacker makes them happy, whenever you can just call them crap

[@sonleo1783]

I have no sympathy or apathy for cheaters, whatever their reasoning is, spending your time to ruin other peoples time using unfair advantages that others have the morality to not use, just makes you a scumbag.

[@SuperNiels91]

I've never played Tarkov (my PC's old and I'm not in a position to replace it yet) but I came across your shorts, which led me here. Honestly this was a great watch, tthe pproduction quality is great, your delivery is on point, the storyline was masterfully crafted. This deserves a lot more views.

[@g0atmoth]

Niels I am glad you found me! Thanks for the nice comment.

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

17:09 this part made me kinda sad cause our CS IGL of 4 years ended up admitting to cheating. The same feeling of “holy shit maybe I’m not even good. Maybe I only thought I was good because my “friend” was setting it up I such a way that we’d rarely lose. I thought my game sense was way better than it was. Turn out I just had some wall hacker telling me where to stand and look. Absolutely shredded me when I was younger. I’m had a hard time enjoying the game for a while because I began to scumb to the other guys point of “maybe I’m just hit cut out for it.” And furthermore “maybe i needed the Chester to win.” I was a very dramatic kid but it was still pretty sad considering it was the end of our team. It left such a bad taste In our mouths and since none of us had the IGL experience the our “friend” had we began to butt heads about how to the game should be played. That was basically the beginning of the end of our little after school/work faceit team. Despite trying a new member here and there, we never recaptured our synergy and decided it was best to split ways lest we ruin our overall friendships over a game. Basically what I’m trying to say is fuck cheaters…

[@luizfernandodonascimento3413]

It can't be denied that there's a level of psycopathy/sociopathy to cheaters. There's no regard to other people's lives and suffering, they're casual about the evil they perpetrate and the list goes on.

[@haydentravis3348]

If this is what they do in there free time, I wonder what they're like the rest of the time.

[@loner2323]

Psychos and narcissistic exist also on Internet. And you see them much more. Cheaters are that kind of people.

[@JameaJimea1175]

@@haydentravis3348 most likely completely insufferable. I had a friend who got free cheat software in call of duty a couple years ago and he thought it was so funny and entertaining watching people just have no chance to play. He was my friend at the time but slowly became a miserable insufferable alcoholic and I just think it’s so funny the way he acts like a victim all the time but will lie , cheat and manipulate people IRL to get what he wants. He deserves the suffering he is receiving. I literally hate him now, I assume most cheaters act similar to him.

[@computergames3918]

@@JameaJimea1175 that's funny that you said he deserves the suffering he is receiving, as if all of us can control forces to which ones only affects us with positive things... like yeah.. I could agree that some people who are alcoholic have really serious problems inside? So yeah... you, saying he deserves it was funny, like he probably do it because of his problems deep inside that made him more do it, and i think it's hard to say that he deserves it because again, the problems that we had was because of the forces that we can't fully control that affects us negatively..

[@hansloyalitat9774]

"Lives and suffering" its a video game my guy.

[@chappie__]

This man is truely a g0at, I see his clips pop up all the time now and he seems to be a very cool bloke. This video is an awesome insight into one issue that we all know and hate about tarkov, I honestly can't believe the production value and professionalism in this video for a 21.5k sub channel. This man seriously deserves more subs

[@g0atmoth]

Very nice thing to say ! Thanks

[@chappie__]

@@g0atmoth My pleasure bro thanks for the awesome video! By the way sometimes on the video (in particular your dialogue shots of you giving voice over) the audio has a strange stereo sound and it seems a bit offset left to right, just wanted to let you know as I intend on watching more 😂

[@g0atmoth]

@@chappie__ I'll check that out. If you can put a timestamp at a spot where you notice it. Thanks!

[@chappie__]

@@g0atmoth 7:34 is quite noticeable, is that a stereo mic you are using in the clip?

[@g0atmoth]

@@chappie__ I listened to that section with studio monitors and headphones. I even watched an audio mixer levels and the left and right channels are exactly in sync. I only have mono mics but that doesn't mean I couldn't have messed something up in post. However, they are exactly in sync. in OBS the top is left and bottom is right channel imgur.com/lBBxVbz I did use a stereo mic in the next scene , but the phasing is barelllllly visible on the meter. hmmm

[@tspeislive]

Cheaters in 2030 “time to play some games.” *starts round walks away from computer

[@DunkSkunk]

HA! This year's corner camping bots not playing the game are next year's cheaters hacking, instead of playing the game 🤣

[@PeterGriffinFortnite]

Literally tf2 right now

[@DunkSkunk]

@@PeterGriffinFortnite catch me playing BubblePop

[@leejames929]

Being insecure about working in construction is so strange

[@Mike-hh2lr]

I fought you in a raid like 3 or 4 wipes ago and I've been keeping up with you ever since. Great creator and you were SUPER chill in your stream after our run in at resort. Love your approach to things

[@g0atmoth]

That's awesome man! Glad you found me.

[@Ruben1994OL]

Can't believe this hasn't got more views. A like and a sub to you, keep doing what you're doing

[@g0atmoth]

Thanks for stopping by Rubin!

[@Soup236]

After watching this video, I understood one thing... Putting on a jacket will kill my entire family.

[@Pyerite_steeltoots]

shoutout to all them woods mains still enjoying the game, cause the hackers think it's their least enjoyable map. awesome video mate, probably better than swampfox's narrative stories I feel compelled to see more of your content!

[@NotCollectedNorCalm]

Crazy how Woods has become my most played map after this video came out 😅👀

[@Vertoxxis]

funny too, woods always felt like my most successful map, now i know why that may be..... lol

[@BLOODGRIMN]

This video is so good bro. I'm coming out of the Warzone hacker hunter community and have switched to tarkov and this video is hitting on so many levels. fantastic edits. liked and shared for sure 👍

[@g0atmoth]

Glad you found the video! Cheers my dude.

[@dagreekratking4694]

Messy is that soup bowl you didnt clean up or put behind the camera when you filmed! good vid

[@MonsPubis7]

The best thing to combat cheaters and fear of losing loot is scav gangs being friendly to one another. Ive been part of a scav army who ganged up with a pmc who voiped there was a hacker. We need more of that friendliness and to get rid of all these hackers

[@Manuelarte]

It's unbelievable how the cheaters justify using cheats.....

[@pitking503]

i have been waiting years for someone to cover this topic this in dept. ty so much. i wish i could thumbs up this video twice.

[@pitking503]

iv been sending it to friends that play

[@g0atmoth]

That's awesome man. I appreciate that so much!!!

[@rustyredbeard]

Found your channel through the mentions on recent WAN shows, great content, thank you for your work. I was an avid Team Fortess 2 player, +2k hours, and the cheating got so bad I stopped mostly because it's not a serious shooter like Tarkov and it seemed even more pathetic that people would cheat. I'm not justifying cheating in games with higher skill requirements, all cheaters are pathetic. Cheating in non serious games is just to ruin other people's enjoyment and I suspect it's only because the cheater lacks the skill to even attempt games like Tarkov and that aggravates their insecurities further. Great job man, I see comments from 2 months ago mentioning your 20k subs. It's at 104k now and I'm pleased to be one of them.

[@KingBongHogger]

I have a buddy that sucked at games so he used wallhacks and such. I eventually convinced him to sit down, use an aim trainer with me for a few hours and play on a fresh account to get matched with noobs again (csgo.) He instantly felt a greater sense of reward than he ever did cheating when he started wrecking legitimately. If you put just a little effort into increasing skill instead of using a shortcut, you will have an exponentially better experience.

[@TGC1775]

Welp. I tried to warn people about those cheat devices and I was called the crazy one 😂

[@kosher5954]

Tarkov needs to implement a batching system. Every time an account is confirmed a hacker, do a shadow classification that they are such, and then put them all on the same servers. So hackers can play with only other hackers, and people who actually fucking care about other humans and not ruining all the good things in the world can play the game together. All the hackers, I DO NOT CARE the conditions, can go #### themselves, they are behaving like inconsiderate spoiled children, and I cannot wait until there is some law that can hold them accountable for ruining everyone's experience through this life. btw this video was awesome, good job dude!

[@tigarianwarrior9556]

6 months late but let me add a few things: Add proximity chat Add a live stream showing these hackers (of course it would be a lot of streams) but shows how pathetic these people are. ON TOP OF ALL THAT, these people won’t know unless they outright say they are.

[@evilutionltd]

I have never played an online game against other people because I know it's a deck stacked against me. In general, people are the worst and even in real life, the majority of the problems I face daily are because of people. When I'm playing games, I want to get away from reality, not bring this "people" problem into the equation.

[@NickGreiner1988]

What they were talking about at 16:00 was spot on, i have now played this game every wipe for like 6 years and apart from learning the maps and navigating the menus a bit better, just general understanding... I haven't gotten any better at the game, in fact I've probably gotten worse... I can't kill anyone no matter what... I'm in a discord and new people join every now and then, within a few weeks they're 100 times better than me and they're the cool kids that get to kappa... I never get any of that, i might as well be playing deaf and blind the skill cap is just so high it's impossible, I quit... Anyone wanna boycott the game with me?

[@Jake-bt3fc]

I don't understand how you could have possibly gotten "worse" lol. After 6 years you should have excellent map knowledge that would put you leaps and bounds ahead of somebody in their first wipe. I honestly bet I could level faster than somebody on their first wipe without even shooting a shot because I know where all of the missions are and 90% of them are just fetching notes or planting markers, lol.

[@NickGreiner1988]

@@Jake-bt3fc well, yeah, I didn't mean in terms of being able to get to quest locations, well I can't if another PMC sees me, then they will get me in 1 shot every time.

[@Jake-bt3fc]

@@NickGreiner1988 When I started I would wander around aimlessly and die because I didn't know where to go or where the spawns are. Now I know where the spawns are and the points of interest and the game is 10x easier If I spawn at water treatment on shoreline I know literally everybody who spawned on my side of the map is behind me and I don't have to worry about seeing a single pmc until I get to the middle of the map. I can also just climb the hill and camp people moving to water treatment for easy kills. This game gets so exponentially easier the more you know. You definitely get way more kills than when you started.

[@Skusty]

I think a good measure would also be more communities, like server communities that we had back in the old school days of CS, TF2 and Battlefield. You found a server or community you liked playing with and hung around, became a regular, then you started to know most of the other regulars. This also diacourages cheating since it isnt as anonymous as matchmaking and community servers generally have admins that can take action. Sure there are bad admins, but I think it's overall a good experience for the gamers.

[@wdfshampoo]

This caused me to be banned regularly when I found a new server. Don't know you, ban you and put it on you to prove you aren't cheating.

[@control_the_pet_population]

@@SecondFry oh for sure, it's not any kind of foolproof solution for cheating... hell, it's not a cheating solution at all really... more of an alternate way to play a game and engage with other players. The problem wasn't that such a system couldn't work... it's that it only worked on a relatively small scale... and usually only for a relatively brief period of time before different titles come along and splinter the group. Of course, I have no illusions... In current year very few people would ever break from the "company" servers even if such an option was supported. The company servers are where the MTX and the clout and the achievement trinkets exist. That said, playing the same game with the same few dozen people can have it's own benefits. It was like walking into the neighborhood pub... you aren't besties with everybody... but most people know who you are... and most of the assholes could be weeded out pretty quickly. It was quaint and entirely outdated in a world where literally tens of millions of more people are gaming online at any given moment... but it was an experience that had merit... Something to be said with making even passing and temporary acquaintances versus being just 1-of-150,000 randos spread across a bunch of lobbies.

[@munchrai6396]

@@control_the_pet_population Creating a smaller, subset of a community can be quite useful, moreso if the community at large accepts cheating as part of how the game is played. Can be kind of hard to find like-minded individuals who haven't become bitter about the whole competitive scene and want make an alternative instead of yelling at the game creators to fix this problem. Mind you, this discussion does a very good job of outlying why that isn't sustainable and why the power vacuums it creates can be very challenging

[@IgnoreMeImWrong]

I'm banned in several of those servers for simply standing up to admins being shitbags to normal players. Same shit different day.

[@Drinkyoghurt]

Happened to me on America's Army. Started playing it after not playing it for a while, got a regular server where I'd hang out for a year. At some point I just knew where to pre-fire because I knew where the spawns were and how to rush. I could get 100 kills to maybe 20 deaths in a session. Everyone else was pretty bad so they didn't care, but at some point the admin, who was cheating himself, convinced everyone I was a cheater. I eventually stopped playing, but the cheating admin continued being on that server. Even with cheats he sucked lol. @@wdfshampoo

[@FMXBrawlerZ]

A friend and I were running woods last wipe. We ran into a guy that killed us both and it didn't sit right. The way the guy came after us was very unnatural. Then we geared up and did another raid. This one went fine. However, the next raid we ran back into the same guy. We were split up and my buddy was dropped in a very unnatural feeling death again. When he saw the name he told me and I ran. I was quite a ways away from this guy and knew where he was because of my buddys death location. I ran as fast as I could toward the extract. He eventually got a sightline on me and started killing me. I dove onto the ground and started clicking attachments off my gun. To my suprise he stopped shooting. I got the gun partially scattered and he shot me again. When we looked at our insurance a day later the guy had taken all of our gear from the first raid but nothing from the second (assuming he recognized the names and decided not to take the gear). The problem was..... The damage was already done. I don't recall doing one more raid that entire wipe. We had just made it to max traders and were ready to start playing the game, instead I turned the game off and could not get myself to log in due to how those kills made me feel. I really wish they would implement a review system into the game, this game is too much on it's own without dieing to cheaters as well.

[@LordlyUri]

yeah the cheating is made worse by the sisyphus style feeling the game has

[@hiimtoastup3836]

This guy very well could have been cheating. It also sounds like someone using thermals though; I can’t tell you how many times I guarantee I get reported or accused of cheating because I’m using a flir on woods.

[@kiroshki]

From what I read, cheater made you a favour in desguise. Gaming is waste of time, especially when your brain is not fully developed yet (below 25~30). I know it sound like a granpa statement, and you can make fun of it but unfortunetly gaming as a hobby is a waste of time.

[@LestatTVPickle]

@@kiroshki Loads of scientific evidence that proves you wrong. Use that info how you want.👍

[@Quasar-fv8to]

@@hiimtoastup3836 it really doesnt sound like someone using thermals. How is the same guy, in the opposite direction rushing a sightline when the guy clearly b lined out of there. Unless hes completely ignoring the use of his FLIR to scan and is just winging it in a random direction and HAPPENS to catch his heat signature, which isnt how ANYONE plays the game. Shouldnt run defense for cheaters.

[@suparosc02]

In tarkov cheating is normal, if you don't cheat you're the fool, this is why I don't play anymore...

[@BigFellaGames]

It's worse than just gaming, imagine how good software would be if companies didn't have to spend trillions on cyber security. How much time that could be saved, how much more the entire planet could do.

[@IsThatDonnieDiddle]

Wow I've never actually seen the radar and how it works that's pretty crazy hope more people see this video it's super under appreciated right now good job man

[@g0atmoth]

Thanks man I really appreciate that!

[@IsThatDonnieDiddle]

@@g0atmoth Definitely man great content deserves love ❤ earned my subscription for sure

[@castin5244]

This is one of those videos where I wish it was an hour longer.

[@FiveStarBr]

bro that rofl dude is something, i can hear the insecurities in the tone of his voice "Cause i am the BOSS"

[@codyd5335]

Cheaters can see my PMC K/D but I can't. Thanks BSG.

[@mchandler1989]

I was part of the X570 ban long ago... I can't fathom that BSG unashamedly and unjustly banned so many people due to their own developers ppor assumptions, yet a player with a KD of 8 doesn't ring alarm bells. I found the vid interesting though. Had no idea that DMA devices were a thing. Interesting from a technical perspective; frustrating from a gaming perspective lol.

[@g0atmoth]

That's about where I am as well.

[@punisher4499]

8 K/D isn't even that impressive lmao , I've seen streamers with 20-30 K/Ds , legit

[@TalonVI]

@@punisher4499 How do you know they're legit? ;)

[@punisher4499]

@@TalonVI innocent till proven guilty

[@TalonVI]

@@punisher4499 true true

[@subarashii1613]

I hope they gonna implement system like in cs go where you can rewatch full match of First person view and third person view of any player, with checking weight and skill system plus stats. Very good video btw

[@Shajirr_]

Zero chance of that happening, if the devs cared about this at all, this system would have been already in the game years prior

[@loner2323]

It would be a great learning tool as well... I mean its almost considered a competitive game, we should have that kind of features.

[@Megalodon89]

"noobs play woods" a cheater said xD made my day.

[@kingclucky1622]

This video was great but the half bowl of soup kept distracting me the entire time 😂😂

[@williamfinucane]

So I'm watching this over from Scav Talk but I think its worth telling you that this video was in my recommended videos.. I didn't search for it... Loved the podcast episode and I'm digging what I'm seeing so far. Keep it up.

[@g0atmoth]

That's awesome man!! Welcome.

[@xzeuii]

As a former cheater (different niche game) that got REALLY technical for a year or two, the way you explained the whole “Set-up” was REALLY good. Loved the whole video, and the whole HVH dialect thing was on the nose too

[@Cornell90]

You mean as a former loser? "As a former cheater" dude, you are a loser. The end.

[@Wallenquist]

Thanks for being a former cheater lol

[@JimmyTheBear]

You may be a former cheater but your weak genetics passed onto you from your weak parents will last forever.

[@ByeBaybe]

hvh is so funny to watch. "owned using ezfrags" just a software flex haha

[@femboyellie]

@@Wallenquisti’m a active cheater on eft and i use blatant aimbot like big fov and silent aim lol

[@jboblk]

The chance of running into a cheater is greater than the chance of running into a highly skilled player.

[@proc55]

Absolutely insane how many people take the time to be somebody that's beyond a scrub and always claim to be good. Smh

[@usuallyadam]

No he doesn't work in construction, nor does this guy have a major and/or minor in anything.

[@WarchildAD]

Hearing all the stuff in this video really makes me not want to play Tarkov anymore but I appreciate the insight into how and why hackers are doing it. This video was excellent, watched it right to the end.

[@scottdickson9224]

SPT-AKI. You can play solo and completely tweak the experience to what you want.

[@WarchildAD]

@@scottdickson9224 nah I'm good. I'll just wait for stalker 2

[@pRaX85815]

Thank you for making this and especially showing some stuff like a DMA board. The vast majority is sadly very clueless about the vast array of methods that can and are being used and deem the lengths cheaters go through unbelievable.

[@thesillykaiser]

I feel like Evoker is like Michael from GTA V, a retired crook working with the FIB (goat) LMAO

[@Kayzizzle]

Your most recent video caught my attention for your past videos. Great work my man

[@zivick]

Why play for 45 minutes if you know where everyone and everything is and you don’t even have to aim? Such a flawed logic these cheaters have lol.

[@blakeolinger1220]

Because they're getting revenge on all the guys that shit on them rather than getting better at the game through discipline. These people are either children, or grown men who act like children. What's funny is they actually feel like they're winning when they aimbot somebody and it's the most pathetic thing I can imagine.

[@wdfshampoo]

People like to crush others, even when it means being a dickhead

[@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n]

they are NPCs they wouldnt even understand what u just wrote

[@v4lhulme]

They aren't playing for the same reasons as you and I. We enjoy surprises that get thrown at us during a raid and get a rush from coming out on top. Cheaters see this struggle as a waste of time and instead equate their stash money number as success. It's a serious personal level defect that they have and almost impossible to get them to see it and want to correct for it.

[@AgnotologyTV]

Back when I was new to tarkov, I had a friend who did exactly this. He was naturally gifted with aim. He was the guy who spent a few hours every day playing aim training games. He was highly ranked in valorant as well as Apex Legends. He got banned from valorant twice and apex once, and was unbanned from both everytime. He flaunted this. Looking back on it, I should have known he was full of shit. He'd say he heard noises and said his high perception skill was why - that he heard sounds above him or below based on how the sounds made his ear feel. That he could shoot people through bushes because someone in a bush made the bush coloration different. And he constantly belittled anyone who couldn't understand his skill. I quit tarkov and moved to SPT because of this. Everything I learned about the game was wrong, taught by a guy who knew the answers before the question was asked. I finished my first wipe (12.7) at level 17, my second at 32, my third at 43 with max level traders, and my final at level 12. I quit because I got carried by a soft-cheater for 1.5 years and it ruined tarkov for me. None of my accomplishments were my own. He just equipped a second backpack slot and put me in it.

[@FreedomisSuccess]

You make it sound like a terrible experience but in between the lines I can see you actually enjoyed it and wanted to share this story in a way that doesn’t portray you as someone who “supports” cheaters (unless you benefit) convince me if I’m wrong.

[@AgnotologyTV]

@Jay Jay it's terrible because everything I thought I managed to accomplish wasn't the case. Because I looked up to some lines of code that belittled me for being "bad". Of course I thought I was decent at tarkov and was having fun. I had a great teacher, had a 60% survival rate in a game where 30% is doing fairly well, and I was gullible enough to think I was making it myself somehow. If you think I was knowingly riding cheater coat tails, so be it.

[@DoubsGaming]

For better or worse I know that feeling of deep regret and sometimes anger when you realize your whole foundation is built on thin air. Doesn't matter what it is but it sticks to you even after you have learned the right way. The only way I have dealt with this is never use only one reference. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link so redundancy is the only way.

[@kinnusai4432]

@@FreedomisSuccess Troll comment.

[@flippCZ]

you're not very smart, are ya.... if you have some mental ilness that prevents you from understanding what others saying by twisting the meaning of their words in your mind, then i'm sorry and you should get checked...@@FreedomisSuccess

[@jbrock76]

I would feel absolutely horrible after cheating and wiping a raid. It would be an anti-dopamine hit. I'd probably puke. I'd for sure have to take a hot shower.

[@gorpri1]

Developers should detect cheaters and not say anything about it, but put them together in only cheaters lobbies!

[@IKnowHowItEnds]

They call them shadow banned lobbies. They already do this with Modern Warfare. You can see videos of them right here on youtube. Do you see how well it's working?.. It does nothing.

[@gorpri1]

@@IKnowHowItEnds How so?

[@SALTINBANK]

Since CS 1.6 these people are cancer : i really dont understand that mentality makes me sick

[@blakeolinger1220]

Dude this game is full of guys like him. I know the difference between a good player and a cheater. Cheaters don't play tactically. They always rush you and kill you like they know they are going to win because they are cheating. Their behavior is always the same.

[@Shubham-hk6yf]

Landmark

[@Teddy-se8qb]

thats his friend clara

[@blakeolinger1220]

@@Shubham-hk6yf Yeah a lot of people will say he's not cheating in any way but deep down we all know why he plays on his left monitor half the time.

[@darkracer1252]

@@blakeolinger1220 he'll get outed eventually.

[@f4ttie]

"I want to keep everyone anonymous" *proceeds to say homies handle later in the video*.. lol

[@tommys234]

when lol

[@f4ttie]

@@tommys234 around 12:03 he says "i can't review ravs(not sure if it's rav or rath) footage"

[@user-fv8jt2gl3p]

As someone who loves audio you got this stuff sounding crispy my guy

[@Okiijiida]

With a lack of morality in the "twitch" generation and how readily available map hacks & esp available... This game, tarkov, is absolutely broken. 70%+++ are radar hacking

[@MrJimmyboy262]

I really can’t comprehend it. Even evokers reasoning at the end as to why he cheats makes no sense. Why even play a survival game if your main goal of cheating is to eliminate the survival aspect? You can’t be bothers to run a raid for 40mins just to die at the end? Bro, that’s half the fun is not knowing. What’s the goal if there is an answer sheet in front of you? The only answer that makes sense is how you explained it; they’re missing something in life and this is their way of “impressing” others and feeling like they’re part of something I guess.

[@beestreamt6601]

in g0at's language cheating is like making your own raincoat because you cant be "bothered" working to buy one

[@gyrthez246]

A lot of what was mentioned in this video is very much correct. I'm a former cheat developer (not for competitive games, and not for Tarkov). As a kid I always had an interest in manipulating systems, usually security systems, my parents would replace the plug socket with a protected socket with a built in timer and I figured out how to access the clock inside, and dial it back so I could watch my favourite late night comedian, they would put software restrictions on my computer to make it shut off at a certain time, so I figured out by turning the time on my computer back the timer wouldn't trip and I could keep using it. So on and so forth. I did this throughout my whole childhood. I really didn't like restriction and breaking that restriction that shouldn't be able to be broken gave me a unique sense of accomplishment. I think it was my interest in this that got me into cheat development. I was nowhere near as proficient in coding back then so it was very interesting to me to be able to use a software to essentially break apart another and see how it worked and how these things could be manipulated to do things that were unintended. To be clear I was 13 at this point. Eventually I remember one day having an epiphany at like 15 that maybe my actions that I was doing weren't actually helping anything or anybody and most people wouldn't like what I was doing and the result of what I was doing, and that my knowledge that I'd spent a few years amassing by that point could be really useful if used in the right way and shared with the right people. I spent the rest of that day thinking about it, only to wake up the next day and quit cold turkey, I nuked my online presence so people would stop contacting me to do stuff for them, I lost pretty much all friends by doing this but I didn't feel bad about it. Over the past few years, I got into indie game development as a hobby and have been looking to go forward professionally into an area of computer science like forensics or cyber sec. I've been able to take all of this knowledge that came from cheating and creating cheats and have been able to turn this into my own unique skill set to the point where me and my testing is very valued on the team. I get the best of both worlds now, I get to be able to get the same sense of accomplishment by cheesing game mechanics and completely decimating peoples systems and breaking their games, I get to be able to pass this on to those people so they have indicators of where to improve on a product, and I get to be able to make systems for other people to enjoy. I get dragged in to test most projects, I get to look at people's code and double check its security and efficiency, and I still get to improve upon my own skillset. That being said, I feel badly about my decisions back then because I was raised better than that, but I think I've been a lot better for it so I don't regret it in a way. I don't recommend people to cheat at all, there are probably better ways to go about it for anybody looking to achieve similar results to me. As for the state of cheating, I agree that as technology continues to become more advanced and this advance knowledge becoming more widespread that cheating will continue to happen, but what I will also say is that I disagree that cheating will spiral out of control of developers. There is always a way to detect if it's a player or a machine, machines cannot perfectly replicate human movement (yet, and even after a while, would still be detectable). I guess it's just a matter of the developers coming up with their own ways to detect these cheats, which injection detection aside is often specific to each individual game. As cheats improve and begin using new technologies, so will the state of game development and anticheat detection along with that. I will also add that as many improvements are made it still won't mean we'll reach 100% detection accuracy overall. I personally don't think that such a thing is possible without risking severely hindering the experience of legitimate players. I think we can still make it very, very difficult to remain undetected though. As somebody that has now been on all 3 sides of this problem (cheating/cheat development, game development, playing against cheaters) I understand the reasons why people choose to cheat, and while I find looking at cheats/cheaters amusing to figure out why and how it works I no longer see the appeal in cheating. When you take the difficulty out of a game you also rip away your own enjoyment and sense of accomplishment that every gamer chases, maybe it's fun initially but after a few weeks you'll become very tired of it because there is no longer any challenge. The only thing in it for cheat developers is getting to babysit your community full of children/adults that act like children 24/7, having people jump on your back when there's the slightest problem with your cheat, and sometimes an okay-ish amount of money I guess. The average cheat dev doesn't make a lot compared to the amount of time they have to invest in maintenance, you have to be top 1% with monthly subscriptions to get anywhere close to rolling in the money, but at that point literally just make an online game with subscription option aimed at kids; you'd spend less time doing it and earn significantly more. Oh, and you get to watch your own back 24/7 just in case a very legally worded letter telling you "fuck off or else" arrives in your mail that day. TLDR Is it worth cheating? No. Anyway cheat developers often backdoor your PC for blackmailing purposes later, it's common practice, so you're paying oftentimes monthly to get hacked basically. Is it worth developing cheats? In 99.9% of cases, no. In the remaining 0.1%? Barely, but you'll have to pray to every celestial being out there that the company doesn't find you. If a game is too difficult or if you're having difficulty with the learning curve, cheating will not help you get over the learning curve. As shown in the video from the way the cheater moves, you will still suck just as much as a new player, you'll look just as new as the next new person. So don't bother with cheating, either quit the game and leave it to another day when you're more motivated to be patient to learn, or stick to learning with the mindset that the dopamine release will pay off. Play the game with a few friends if it makes the learning curve more enjoyable.

[@loganhogan953]

the worst part of getting beat up is waiting for it. playing this game you are allways waiting to get hacked killed. so no I could never play this game. it's not a game anymore, fun has been taken away from it, I can hear the sadness in your voice. you know it's over. move on. good vid tho gg

[@Phoenix-we7xw]

I agree, we need overwatch like in csgo. Especially in late wipe. The thing that sucks the most is how bad it gets and what Battlestate Games lacks to do. They won't hardware ban, because they want cheaters to buy more accounts, and the other reason they don't do it is because people like us that love the game and have hours are used to seeing a cheater or two a day have to just suck it up and move on. I wish overwatch and hardware bans become a thing.... Also g0at if you ump spray me from over 50m again on shoreline, I'll eat my shoe

[@Aerospace397]

They do hardware ban but its really easy to bypass. Just need to raid 0 the drives.

[@toastywumbos7044]

@Phoenix They do hardware ban its just very inconsistent and very easy to bypass

[@user-ow1mc9hd9m]

I had a similar kind of experience. My best gaming friend that I’ve known for over a decade at this point was a god at Tarkov. I’ve known this guy since I was 12 playing MW2 on Xbox 360. I got him into the game, and after a rocky start, he got insanely good insanely quickly. I thought this guy just must be gifted or insanely smart to always have amazing positioning. When I played with him, we literally *never* got into a fight where we were in a disadvantaged position. He’d stumble across crazy loot after skipping over duffle bags, dead scavs, static bodies, safes etc. One time he randomly said “Let’s check the SUV for the violet spawn” while we were on woods. Imagine that, it was there. I had not seen him check that car once. This was the epiphany for me that made it all click. I think I had been suspicious without actually knowing I was suspicious. After realizing he was most likely cheating in that raid, I thought back to all the other weird interactions we had while playing. He would always make it a point for me to see his stats on screen share. They were good, but not insane. Like a 2.7 PMC KD and 7 overall. I thought he was just trying to make sure I believed how good he was. As well, if I died while we were running thermals or good gear, he’d always make it out with our stuff. He never died first. Eventually it was confirmed one night after I had died and was watching his screen share. He slipped up and I guess hit his hot key for infinite stamina. He didn’t even realize but I watched him run from car v-ex all the way to outskirts without his stamina bar dropping at all. I confronted him and he tried to say he used SJ6 and Obd 2. I asked him why he didn’t have the icon showing you’re under a stimulant next to his head. He fessed up finally and man it hurt worse than when my gf broke up with me.

[@disciple2742]

As soon as you said "discord mod" lol i already have my preconceived notions of him

[@MetalMax274]

I really like your "deep dive" -ish style content your extremely thorough and do a very nice job with the research/fact finding and presenting. Keep up the good work and I hope BSG notices your Tarkov Activism!

[@jjackson4727]

Dope video but I really loved the psychological part of why they cheat. Would love to hear a more in-depth deep dive into why.

[@g0atmoth]

I did a ton of interviews that didn't make it into the video. I even spent a good amount of time interviewing Evoker about his past. It's very interesting and I think someone could write a book about this subject. I would have loved to make this video 2 hours long and spent more time on that but I don't think most people woulda stayed around to see it. Maybe in a future video?

[@jjackson4727]

@@g0atmoth maybe break it down into different episodes and have a series? As a whole our attention span has definitely gone down. I would enjoy a long video like that, as I find psychology interesting but since we’re are talking about a video game audience maybe breaking it down would be better. But this is tarkov so you gotta have patience lol. Either way if you do it, I would definitely watch it.

[@AgnotologyTV]

@@g0atmoth does the idea of spending 4x more time filming and editing a long format video sound like something you'd enjoy? Then do it. Don't do things with only metrics in mind. I tried doing that, burnt out and shelved my channel. That was 8 years ago. I didn't even have the slightest modicum of success. My heart wasn't in it, I didn't enjoy what I was doing, I treated it like a slog of a job and the shittiest part was knowing everyone who had supported me up to that point had wasted their time and money too. So if you want to do it, do it. If you don't, don't. Good content will bring success, and good content doesn't come unless you are passionate about it.

[@GetnBrains]

cheating everywhere in games is so out of control that even normal people who despise cheaters are enticed to check the cheats out for a few reasons. payback being one of them. just a shitty shitty time of gaming we are living thru, breaks my damn heart :(

[@MankySwift]

I applaud your work in shining a torch on this subject it's both interesting yet annoying at the same time haha

[@morrowmorrow4811]

I love at 19:23 how my man evoker is talking about cheater mannerisms and the ways they speak being off when he's literally a cheater himself. Wonder if he thinks the same about himself or if he somehow holds himself as "different" from the other cheaters

[@VENAZ]

i mean not all cheaters are the same tho, some are actual assholes while some are kinda cool or chill

[@grizzbro]

Seems so pointless to cheat. I feel pretty good at the game now and that came from 1800 hours of progress ya know. I killed a streamer once and some people thought I was cheating in their chat and it made me think does everyone I beat just think I’m playing unfair since I have non EOD but whatever I’m just gamin. Cool video Goat I’m sure it took a while to make hope it pops off

[@tize1]

It’s definitely not pointless when you get money out of it

[@LittleRainGames]

The cheater diallect is a form of anti-social narcassism, mixed with a bit of anger problems, and are just plain sociopaths. They arent very social people, they are lonely, and they suck at games and they get MAD when they get killed. So they start to cheat and they try to make other people as angry as they used to get when they were playing legit. They have this "me vs the world" attitude. I almost feel sorry for them, because keep down they are hurting, but the fact they have no empathy or compassion for other people makes me think they deserve their crappy lives. And if you are a cheater who thinks you dont hurt or have a crappy life, its just because you have never had something truly good to compare it to.

[@loner2323]

Some of them need help IRL.

[@joenuts6722]

bruh it’s a video game lol chill

[@Driblus]

You ask the question "Why cheat", and while your points are valid, I think you missed the essence. People who cheat cant deal with losing. Your so called friend Evoker said it himself: "Why go through all that stuff for 40 minutes, just to die at the end?". He just lost, like all of us do on a regular basis - but he just cant deal with it. For others, who dont want to cheat, thats literally the allure of games like Tarkov. Sad part about it all, while cheaters ruin countless games for everyone else, does it make them feel any better? Maybe for a short while, but I dont think anyone will ever get long term satisfaction for watching their spoils of battle (be it loot, or stats or rank or whatever), knowing it's all from having a completely unfair advantage, regardless of how big that is. I just don't think its possible. So people ruin games for everyone else, for that fleeting but quickly dissipating sense of satisfaction and then they move on, leaving a desecrated corpse of a game. And once you have crossed that line, its easy to cross it again and again. And cheating is not only prevalent in Tarkov. It's prevalent in every online, multiplayer game. It's fucked.

[@dahedgehog7382]

Why do people call them hackers... They are pure and simple cheaters.. Their ability to hack is zero.

[@rodiculous9464]

my problem with this game is it's so freaking buggy its almost impossible to tell for sure when they're cheating, at least as a normal player. you had the whole rengawr situation and the other dev who rage banned a legit player and then you have the kevxxd stuff where they are with him the whole time and swear up and down he's legit and then the backend data shows a different story. but still the video was informative in a general sense

[@blakeolinger1220]

I'm pretty sure rengawr was right about that kid though. Did you see the way the kid responded after his account was banned? "I understand" is what he said. An innocent person would be irate after legitimately grinding the game only to have your account banned because of a salty streamer. rengawr was right. The little shit was cheating.

[@mercurymon61]

The biggest thing we can do is start charging these companies who sell the software criminally. Then at least the only cheaters will have to create the programs themselves.

[@yyeezyy630]

If they make the cheats in a different country that wouldn’t work, also people can make them in their basements. There’s to many problems with your theory, I like the innovation but drug dealers sell drugs despite it being illegal and seeing other dealers get charged

[@Kawasatan]

There are some things that amaze me. First: how is it possible that, the tarkov community is linked at least via reddit, this clip has under 10k views? Because the truth hurts. This is an amazing video that shows how easy it is, especially for ppl who make a livin out of "streaming", with a little acting to look like amazing players. There is an very popular streamer once I was watching him, he was in Customs during the time when it was still with buggy sound. He was talking on comms to a friend and was wearing an Altyn... but what was thast. "I heard someone below".. .sure. f... off. I am pretty sure for ppl who make gaming a full time job there are even "advanced" 2D map overlays who give an indicator when someome makes a noise that "could" be heard, so that the f..... can "act" accordingly. The stupidity of the twitch zombies consumer group is unfeasable. Instead of punishing those bastards they give them money. You know what? Mcgregor once said "in the UFC everyone is on steroids"... I dare say that all full time / job streamers are cheating. They can just better act as many others and know when to lose, from time to time. Twitch is, like cheaters, cancer. period

[@punisher4499]

your comment is incredibly stupid , Do you have any evidence to support these absurd claims you make ? Although no one really cares about what you say tbh.

[@leadpipejustice9253]

Amen bro, and we will never get the last laugh or revenge. Just another good game raped and pillaged

[@nickpower4385]

The option to see the player who killed you perspective after the raid ends for everyone in it needs to be added to the game. And then once someone reviews the replay, another option to report them should be added that will separate normal reports from replay reports and prioritize replay reports to actually have a living breathing human look at them. There are only so many inactive accounts the cheaters can use before having to spend money again, and if they can get banned fast enough, the cheaters may not be able to profit enough from RMT for them to keep cheating

[@HighOnPoint412]

they would have to have it after the raid in case you are in a party.

[@idonz21]

RMT has never been the issue. This is a lazy excuse by BSG which only slightly reduces the quantity.

[@PossumMedic]

17:16 - Doesnt sound like Fluffy but I'll take your word for it 😂

[@americantoastman7296]

"this is my third account this wipe Im getting to kappa, already got two this wipe" does bro have any hobbies? Does bro have a singular meaningful outlet for his time?? holy shit dude...

[@utkua.8474]

Recently discovered your channel. Can't believe you only have 21K subs. The production quality is top notch. You the goat, my man.

[@kl2g84]

Dude, what a video. Hope it goes viral.

[@DOiNKLES]

did you see the newest one?

[@GamingInfested]

in games you get 1-2 cheaters in a lobby, in tarkov you get 1 player that doesnt cheat.

[@forrestshearree8728]

It’s a real life simulation game. Having the desire to cheat is the furthest thing from a desire to play the game for what it’s worth. There’s a real feel of sadism in EFT cheaters.

[@paranoidandroid4118]

This is what keeps me perplexed as well. A friend of mine discussed buying cheats a while ago after buying the game. Managed to talk him out of it. He was extremely bad with horrible comms and would die almost every raid. 2 weeks afterwards he started performing insanely well dropping 3-4 + PMCs every raid. Headshots, perfect reading of enemies movement, always spotting guys first, never getting surprised. Each time I died he would manage to get out alongside stashing or saving my gear. It took me 250+ raids to get some of the items while he is finding multiple ledx , red rebels , btc and rare spawns every two raids always knowing to go despite his lack of game and map knowledge. There's no way for me to confirm if he's cheating and at this point I'm wondering if my account is at risk by playing with him. Is there any way I can reach out to some cheater and I would be literally willing to pay money for someone to check his stats and track him in game as he always dodges to share screen and show them? Wouldn't want to ruin a friendship over a video game but I want to know.

[@g0atmoth]

It's a tough situation. I thought about doing an undercover series where I help people out like you and play along to figure it out. And try to 'bust' people or prove them legit. However, with the system they have in place now I could find myself banned by playing with potential cheaters :/

[@zaneh201]

Definitely g0at. It's a hard decision to make for someone like me or Paranoid but, you have connections already it sounds like and battlestate "Nikita" might pay you for something like this.. Cheaters take away from "That real life experience they want in EFT". Potential business endeavors lol