Gabbie Hanna's Toxic Religious Re-invention

[@welteee.]

Gabbie's Oxford talk reminds me a scene from Brooklyn 99 where at a party Gina talks to the psychologists and they are fascinated by her ego

[@joriosco]

It’s exactly that, they’re all astonish by her level of craziness

[@tamalito97]

I was just telling my sister this! lmao her level of insanity should be studied

[@luennii]

“it seems id and ego have combined!”

[@littleblondegirl1940]

This is so accurate. The way she continuously says “like…” every other word is honestly mind numbing.

[@marnenotmarnie259]

yes omg

[@117ciara]

I'm assuming the 5 people who attended this talk are psychology students doing a thesis on narcissism

[@joywagner979]

The interviewer seemed to be in on it. "Hmm. Ah. Mm-hmm. Go on."

[@odorutori]

That's the only believable explanation as to how she got invited there in the first place.

[@lethallaurin]

LMAO spot on

[@fijardim7]

Truth be told

[@ferrisbueller9991]

NPD is a possibility

[@charliedeegan1598]

Gabbie saying "lets bring back shame" is PEAK irony.

[@olhydra]

Seriously it’s staggering

[@khomausire8997]

She's right.

[@dugongsdoitbetter]

Oh shit, I didn't know shame wasn't a thing anymore. That's weird because it runs my life. Hhmmm

[@khomausire8997]

@@dugongsdoitbetter That is your personal issue.

[@dugongsdoitbetter]

@@khomausire8997 Ooohh, sick burn.

[@laureldreams]

art is not worthless… how silly of her to say art is worthless while she is trying to sell her art. if there was no art there wouldnt be any pretty things and joy in this life

[@nadjak3410]

Yeah but the greatest artists didn't need an art degree. A degree doesn't say anything about your ability to create beautiful art.

[@ffkeixi]

Even a kindergartner's macaroni art is the result of creativity and self-expression, and that has worth.

[@raaaaaaarr]

I think you understood that the wrong way. I assumed she meant, like, youre taking stuff that already exists/is possessed by you (paint or whatever) and technically its still the same things as before so it gives nothing. I think im the one thinking way off here actually

[@FiadhMusic]

It shows that she has a very limited understanding of art herself. When I was in art school "what is art?" was the first question they asked us, and most of us couldn't even answer it. The concept of art is complex and philosophical and its importance throughout human history is obvious with even an ounce of inspection. My take is that her calling art worthless is a cope around the fact that her art isn't well received, and therefore all art must be worthless 🤦‍♀️ like, she's justified in continuing to sell her sh*tty art because none of it has real value.

[@sowhatphie]

The proper term is probably "priceless" which has more positive connotations than worthless. As in it's so inherently valuable you struggle to apply a monetary number to it.

[@Nikkers8]

Gabbie has a huge messiah complex. She glorifies herself, not God. The fact that she still demonizes Rachel Oates tells us she has little understanding of Christianity.

[@alexj-t2331]

I’m pretty sure she called herself god in her manic episode too

[@zosazsatara5889]

religion is bad in various aspects where people will use an ideology to hide behind for self gain. It explains why religion has mentally ill people who spread misinformation, people who have personal opinions they add onto other opinions from people who created said religion originally and keep switching it up to the point where that religion ends up losing it identity making it confusing and more irrelevant that it was originally.

[@keljells]

Yeah as a Christian myself, her Christian arc really gives the ick and the it's fake vibes. Hope I'm wrong. But I could bet on not being wrong and likely win.

[@_babydoll_]

​@@keljells Instead of hoping and betting why don't we pray for her

[@keljells]

@@_babydoll_ it's a figure of speech love. I'm not actually betting on her. I do pray for her. This is a good example of why people online, or even in general public, get annoyed at Christians... taking things way to literally and not being able to have a decent and full conversation without hitting on every little thing that was said in jest or meant as a euphemism. Please, do try to understand the context and not the literal words. It goes a long way for actually reaching people. Best to you! ❤️

[@lycheens]

I though Gabbie had actually left the internet, was doing fitness stuff and doing alright. Should have known better.

[@The_Rat_Dude]

me too :/ I had hoped she received professional help and had gotten better

[@ThymeofGhost]

She didn’t really take much of a break, I think the longest she’s been actually off sm and online was maybe a month.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

I feel like people were a little naive giving her the benefit of the doubt then ... I think people as toxic as her never change.

[@Lizzie__Lizzz]

She’s off her medication which is really sad.

[@monicaheartsgypsy7877]

She was ruthlessly bullied by millions of people online. That is something that is new and I don’t think we can fully understand how badly that could mess a person up. I feel for her. It seems obvious to me that this really messed her up, and she’s trying to figure out what direction to go. She does still have a loyal audience and means of making money being a content creator. That’s what she’s been doing for money for over a decade so she’s still trying to make it work. I think people need to explore empathy more and ask themselves why they dislike a KZbinr they don’t personally know so much.

[@Thedjcatlover]

They definitely invited her to secretly study her lmao

[@juunebuugg]

im saying like😭😭😭

[@beans9019]

“today we are going to be learning about what a manic episode looks like”

[@tiffanykim2773]

😂

[@tiffanykim2773]

​@beans9019 or what a delusional individual looks like

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

Okay I’m not religious, but the whole “thou shalt not take the lords name in vain” doesn’t mean you just say Oh my God a lot, it’s when you DO STUFF LIKE WHAT GABBIE IS DOING; using the word of God as a buzzword shield against criticism for your shitty behavior rather than accepting responsibility and accountability

[@nessarolla]

Yes! That is exactly what I was thinking!! She will never own up to anything.

[@AAMM101]

This.

[@megadeltsmarcy]

i genuinely never knew this, thank you for this information unironically lol

[@StudioHannah]

I am a Christian, and YES, you are correct! Good explanation.

[@kittyroxs]

Wow i love that take

[@cilantrho]

her trying to “rebrand” her manic episode as “jokes” proves that nothing has changed. it’s genuinely very sad.

[@OldObscureUnpopularGames]

Yeah, I remember people saying she was just faking those things for attention; but the issue is that a person who is willing to do the kinds of things she does for attention (like the manic episodes) definitely has a problem of some kind to be worked on.

[@pinkxlulu]

She does not want criticism from academics or experts, especially those with an art or literature focus. They are trained to be ruthless 😂

[@SkarGig]

RIGHT. Can you imagine if she was in grad school and had to give a presentation in front of her profs and peers?! she would have a mental breakdown, and no one would be laughing.

[@jackieeg]

literally all of art school is ripping each other in critique

[@moodlofiliminal]

Even If I had 10m followers. I would never want to be broken down. They are ruthless for a reason xP

[@caseyw.6550]

Underline that they are TRAINED.

[@caseyw.6550]

​@@jackieegTruly. 😅 I can't tell you how many times I had to "go to the restroom" in the middle of class. Yeah, I was just crying in there. Lol

[@KarlieStarrSings]

Calling Rachel someone that doesn't understand art and creativity is a wild statement considering she went to school for english literature and is ACTIVELY writing and performing poetry at events. She even published her own poetry book. She sells freelance art online. To call her uncreative is pretty bold

[@oldboy2399]

Clearly she knows this and is jealous and would rather spread misinfo about Rachel than bring attention to it....sad.

[@Candinm12]

100% I stumbled upon her maybe 3 yrs ago critiquing a book and I fell in love with her. That woman knows what she’s talking about. No one could convince me she’s a bad human either way

[@julian18899]

She even makes her own neat paintings and stuff!! I truly never understood how Gabbie thought she could claim RO "didn't understand art"

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

And Rachel was so kind with her criticisms too! A lot of "I see what she's trying to do, but it didn't work" or, "I'm quite disappointed with this". Gabbie's reaction was unhinged compared to what Rachel did. Genuinely, my jaw dropped when I saw Rachel's video versus Gabbie's reaction.

[@ShiggyNyggyTheBoBinky]

Gabbie is the untalented one here but she’s projecting on to actual talented artist to make herself feel better about her terrible poetry. Reading her poetry damn near broke me and I’m an English minor

[@oup6009]

Rich people gravitate towards Conservative Christianity because they need a reason to justify why they have been "blessed" to have vast amount of wealth over other people.

[@avelynn5976]

don't forget that christianity offers a path to unconditional redemption as long as they promise they'll pray to jesus from now on

[@emilinebelle7811]

I’m not rich by any means but am a hardcore conservative Christian. I don’t understand what you people get out of lying about people you hate.

[@bbi2.052]

@@emilinebelle7811 conservative Christians are so of the most hateful people to ever walk the earth. Dont be dense.

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

​@emilinebelle7811 LOL spoken like a true Conservative Christian! "I'm not the problem! It's everyone else that is wrong! Once again I'm being discriminated against for being Christian!! * cries big crocodile tears *"

[@emilinebelle7811]

@@ajetc697 What’s your evidence that he wasn’t conservative? I don’t remember it being mentioned in the Bible.

[@AlejandroLopez-xs6lu]

It’s so weird not hearing uncle Herman call themselves an alpha male anymore

[@Lobsterclawtoy]

Maybe bc Andrew Tate has been rearrested, they thought it wasn’t the move anymore

[@MorganVsTheInternet]

They called themselves an alpha nerd!

[@missbelle_elle]

Why is that? What happened??

[@Danna_Salgado]

Wait, was happening? The last time I saw an uncles herman video they was still an alpha male

[@chilibeer3912]

A true alpha doesn’t have to tell you they are one. Or maybe they are on that sigma grind

[@lethalxxlori]

her oxford interview was so embarrassing. she’s at oxford calling the interviewer ‘dude’ and calling people a loser. i cringed so hard

[@pastelghosty420]

She thinks art is worthless because her art is bad and she’s jealous. It screams “if my art is bad, then ALL of it sucks” 🙄

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

Sour grapes 🍇

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

That makes sense. I mean, in a way, I agree that art has no intrinsic value - but in the sense that we shouldn't inherently be placing some things as "high" or "fine" art and dismissing others as low brow based on some percieved monetary value, and appreciate art on an equal platform based on how well they serve as human expression and how much joy they can bring to people. But... for Gabbie, yeah, your explanation checks out far more

[@genie7987]

Imo her art is the best/talented thing she does

[@Sasha-gd7se]

In a way, it’s the most narcissistic way to think. Like “well I made the BEST art and if my art isn’t “good” then ALL ART is pointless”

[@MagisterialVoyager]

@@Sasha-gd7se It's actually a genuine sign of psychopathy, if I'm not mistaken. It's the inability to perceive that other people might be different and applying the very strict "people are bad" or "art is bad" lens as if that is the absolute truth, when in reality she might heavily projecting. Balanced people can grasp that what they believe isn't completely the objective truth, but it doesn't seem to be the case with GH.

[@suoutubez19]

this is actually so pitiful. watching her reaction to criticism is like watching a toddler having a meltdown. not everyone is meant to be a public figure. i seriously hope she gets medicated and starts healing before she goes back into yet another spiral

[@MagisterialVoyager]

is she not medicated?! how? why???

[@azuradawn5683]

This IS another spiral. Hyper-religiosity and "I'm the chosen one" rhetoric is literally textbook signs of psychosis/mania/etc...

[@hoodwinkedhamster6687]

she is so cringy. Rachel Oates critique on her poetry was ABSOLUTELY constructive.

[@b3thamphetamine]

Rachel's was some of the kindest, most useful criticism Gabbie recieved, too. It's nuts.

[@keljells]

I spent 3/4 of my drive from Boston area to buffalo area listening to Rachel and her feelings and responses and I am so very glad I gave her the whole views. She was spot on and she's amazing. Bless that woman, she's been so graceful handling this Baffoon too.

[@4MixMasterMonkey]

And Gabbie SENT her the book to critique! WTF?!

[@hoodwinkedhamster6687]

@@4MixMasterMonkey exactly!!!

[@jackieeg]

I worked in art for 10 years, it does have intrinsic value, just because Gabbie’s is worthless, does not mean all art is.

[@Chelseaaa626]

How does art have intrinsic value? And who deems its value? I think art is intrinsically valuable because humans are emotional and creative creatures and there’s something unexplained about art, music, etc. that feels essential to a healthy human experience. But I just enjoy art and have no formal education in art or work in art. So I’m curious your perspective. Also I still don’t know how or why certain art is considered super expensive/ valuable and others is worthless. Objectively I get it with thing like renaissance art but a lot of the performance art or more abstract art that’s seen as valuable I just don’t get.

[@JoeNoshow27]

The value of art lies within the human mind. If humans were to disappear off the planet, none of our art would mean anything to anybody. Art is worthless without sentient life to appreciate it.

[@stuppittyhed]

art is fake

[@Chelseaaa626]

@@stuppittyhed but what does that even mean. Which art is fake? And how is it fake? And if it’s fake why does it seem Integral to overall well being?

[@hollydaugherty2620]

Everyone else knows this. You're not educating anyone. This is an obvious thing. Why you needed to comment that to us is bizarre.

[@squeenx]

oh rachel oates cut her DEEP i feel like we've all lived a lifetime since 2020 and shes still hot about it 😭😭

[@celinay]

Gabbie went from "Art is my life. I was put on this earth to create art." To "art is utterly meaningless." Bc Rachel didn't like her poetry and literally GAVE HER ADVICE ON HOW TO FIX IT 🤧

[@nightcoreeclub]

@@celinayher assertion that art is worthless is even more frustrating bc it seems like she just means that art is not worth money. worth comes in forms besides monetary value, especially art. art can have sentimental, cultural, historical, aesthetic, etc. value, and those are arguably more important and impactful than mere monetary value.

[@rockabillywonder420]

"because here's the thing, we know that people have sexual urges, we know that people have a low sense of self control, so why make it harder for everyone else" oh my god. the sheer gall of her, knowing what she's done in the past

[@laurab1673]

remember when she was mad about people calling her a r&pe apologist?…🙊

[@pricelesswilkie5276]

Never underestimate a KZbinr’s ability to reinvent themself when they’ve run out of money

[@tiffanykim2773]

Solid point

[@societycrumbles]

It always starts with finding religion, it's only a matter of time until she starts making alt-right content.

[@alexj-t2331]

The crunchy to religious to alt right pipeline

[@skylar2907]

i fear she’s gonna get real terf-y too

[@NickS-m3h]

????? This is such a reach. Shes too stupid and worldly to become redpilled anyway.

[@xenusaves]

​@@alexj-t2331Two sides of the same mentally damaged , self worshipping coin.

[@hollydaugherty2620]

⁠@@xenusavesStereotyping every single religious human on the planet is a pretty gross thing to do. Maybe you're mentally damaged too?

[@FluffyKuma7_7]

The interviewer is not buying ANYTHING she's saying lol

[@MagisterialVoyager]

does ANYONE buy that? 😭

[@FluffyKuma7_7]

@@MagisterialVoyager NO AND THAT’S THE THING! This is some next level of being delusional, even Valentina couldn’t compete 😭

[@JohnMcKinney-uw8qc]

Why do cancelled influencers always become religious

[@avelynn5976]

because christians accept converts with open arms literally no matter what they've done in the past

[@loo9474]

No one wanna forgive them except God I guess🤷‍♀️

[@gamertwig3909]

I am not a fan of people who can’t hold themselves accountable and grow without using religion to forgive themselves without the work cos it’s just a short cut

[@davidwinn2575]

Combination of grifting and stupidity.

[@JaneDoesMind]

🤑

[@kit2635]

my theory is that it allows shitty people to say "I asked for forgiveness from the only one who matters" without actually taking accountability for the grief/trauma they've inflicted on others. Like okay find a way to live with yourself, sure, but if you can't give a real apology to anyone ever in your past then you haven't actually changed, have you?

[@seva9994]

Yeaaahhh maybe it's just my pattern seeking monkey brain but so many people become "religious" after they did something unforgivable and use the whole faith thing as a way to act like they are a completely new person now so noone should bring up their past anymore no matter what they did

[@CiaLaVirago]

Re: Brittany Dawn

[@AllisonMiller30]

That’s why I have an issue with religion and god is Jeffery Dahmer could ask for forgiveness and people will say he can get into heaven, but my friend who’s a sweet soul can’t because she’s atheist.

[@MagisterialVoyager]

@@seva9994 same energy with "i've moved on this new year, so let go of the money i borrowed from you in the past, lol" but with a more severe tone because we kinda know what GH did.

[@Aleesha-y3f]

I feel like she is doing her creative performance…..she is trying to throw what people say to her and deflect it to us to show how insane some people sound. Because being in her position, imagine how good of a person you are (think you are) and random people on the internet can still find something wrong with you.

[@bakeddulce5451]

She became more insufferable. Shocking. I am really not surprised by her conservatism. It is always the religious conservatism that only benefits them, not actively donating food, volunteering at soup kitchens, working at dv shelters etc. She cares about "babies dying in the street", has she worked with an organization for low income mothers?!

[@MagisterialVoyager]

same energy with the people in that video where two people went to a pro-life protest to ask them to sign children welfare-related petition (e.g.: free school lunch) and one of the protestor said, "are you a democrat?" imagine being asked that _because you are trying to help others_. holy moly.

[@khomausire8997]

Huh? Religious conservatives donate more than anyone else...

[@alphakevin687]

​@@khomausire8997donations to religious grifters and hate groups don't count, dear

[@khomausire8997]

@@alphakevin687 Cool. Religious conservatives ... still donate more than anyone else.

[@kunpunko]

@@khomausire8997 found the triggered conservative

[@x_azzy]

there is irony in her saying "her words don't matter" but clearly rachel lives rent free in her head

[@a.evelyn5498]

I know it’s picky but I would never say “dude” at a conference at Oxford.

[@FrutigerW]

What about 42 "like"s in a row 🥲

[@jamiekelly3113]

it made me CRINGE

[@helianthus_the-eye]

this whole talk felt weird, gabbie has youtuber cadence, she feels out of depth there

[@neveralonewithchrist6016]

EVER!!!!

[@keljells]

You're not picky it's 100% warranted. Decorum used to be something people understood and used.

[@thomasdegroat6039]

I do not wish Gabbie Hanna the best...

[@dodi-wankenobi]

Lol

[@tarotpoptart]

I second that emotion 💯🤣🤣🤣

[@RedRan6er]

Same, she has not apologized and taken accountability to all her past actions so i dont care what happens to her

[@TheAvprobeauty]

😂😂

[@llll4445]

yes

[@Southtropic]

"Art has no value" from someone who has been trying to make money using her terrible art for 7 years is actually an INSANE take wtf.

[@captaintugger6551]

The funny thing is, I doubt she could handle critique by people who do have degrees in poetry and literature in general. To be fair I didn’t finish my creative writing degree (shits expensive), but when I tell you critiques can absolutely be brutally honest. She probably would've either cried or lost it in one of those classes 🤷‍♀️

[@eriskalli]

Any art critique. Drawing 101 class critiques? Her ego could never

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

Here's the thing... I believe Rachel Oates actually DOES have a degree in a related field, so there's some proof she can't.

[@MagisterialVoyager]

@@eriskalli real. i still remember all the roasts my professor gave me on my first anatomy class ("is this a man or a guitar? what's wrong with his hips?" lmao i love him). yeah, i know, my proportion suckeddd lol. but that's why i was there; to learn and grow.

[@Loops-1]

"my sister has a degree in perfomance art, it was a mistake. i dont think she knew what it was when she signed up" uncle hermon murdering their own sister.

[@NevermoreRMG]

Her comments about sexual urges and lack of self-control wrt those urges are downright sinister when considering her past of rape apology and, lest we forget, "His friends didn't rape you".

[@GenX_files]

The first thing a narcissist does is call everyone else a narcissist, a bully, toxic.. blah blah blah just keep in mind if you think someone is a narcissist and they're calling you names it absolutely all applies to them

[@emmainreverse9570]

100% narcissists love calling everyone else "abusers" when in fact they are the abusers.

[@haroharo57]

Music, poetry, God... next is cocaine or being a mom

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

Let's pray for cocaine.

[@corncobbob2326]

I hope she never becomes a mom unless she changes for good.

[@nightcoreeclub]

@@corncobbob2326yeah… she needs to do something more along the lines of seroquel and abilify lol

[@nikmpup]

Or both!

[@_Obey_]

A mom and alt-right grifter, probably

[@mweeming]

Gabbie is impossible to listen to without at least 1.25x speed...

[@SkarGig]

I hate myself because I ramble like she does. I need an editing tool in my brain sometimes smh

[@SkarGig]

At least I don't say "like"every other word while I'm lecturing about how I'm better than everyone else at Oxford to a bunch of nepo babies.

[@LunarEclipseIsCoool]

@@SkarGig dont worry, i bet ur nothing like her

[@dodi-wankenobi]

U mean 1,25‰ blood alcohol.

[@ikatmax]

The amount of times she says "but like" and "and like" and just "like" uuuggghhhhhhh I have to agree with you on that one 😂

[@berke2336]

It's always the very mentally ill that go full reborn christian, diagnosed or undiagnosed. I grew up Mennonite, and it's taken almost a decade of therapy for me to see it for what it was, and why the most religious people at my church, school, and summercamp were so oblivious to the trauma they were causing to me + a lot of the other kids that questioned it.

[@DarkStormsDino]

Can confirm as ex-LDS growing up with a friend I thought agreed the church was a cult. After I got excommunicated, she only went deeper and got diagnosed with HPD. Very similar behavior and personality as Gabbie, doing and saying whatever gets her attention while larping as artsy and introspective.

[@someidiotmetalhead]

Because cults prey on people in her position.

[@devadasn]

That’s extremely judgement of you

[@suoutubez19]

@@devadasnThis is your takeaway from this commentary about religious trauma? seriously?

[@folkloreofbeing]

Also ex addicts tend to find religion too. I think a lot of these places scoop up the vulnerable.

[@VillainApologist_]

She just victim blamed all women. “We know some people have low self control” UH WHAT?!

[@khomausire8997]

You're not a victim by virtue of someone looking at what you're showing lmao

[@_babydoll_]

Did she say it's women's fault if they get SA'd or r*ped? All she said was to be respectful of one another including ourselves. Saying we should dress modestly men and women, does not at all equal it's the victim's fault if they get assaulted etc. Those are two completely different things. As someone who has been SA'd all my life i would tell my daughter or anyone to dress modestly because no matter how much we say we should be able to walk around naked and safe, it won't change the fact some people are r*pists. I want her to have less chance of becoming a victim in the first place, not be objectified and respectable to herself and others. We don't live in a perfect world where you can be naive and go unscathed whether it's right or wrong. I would never blame the victim but tell everyone to be wise. If you leave your wallet on the bar counter and it gets stolen, the one who stole it is the only one to blame. But if you're wise, don't leave it there in the first place. I can claim i should be able to do that and not have people steal from me, but it won't change the fact some will. God tells us to not lust and He also tells us to dress modestly. That is for both men and women. There are men who dress indecent and there are women who lusts. Also it's simply true that a lot of people have low self control. It may not be sexual, for some it might be greed, wrath, envy, gluttony, alcohol, vanity, etc. We all have weaknesses. There's nothing wrong with being considerate of others who may be struggling.

[@VillainApologist_]

@@_babydoll_ I’m not reading any of that

[@bipolarbeinganddoing8070]

Gabbie seriously underestimates how bitchy the actual literary scene is. Once in a review of my first book, the critic said "her line-breaks are egregious at times" and I've never got over it

[@2dents513]

Is it really that bad? I'd like to write a book or two one day. I'm not an amazing writer, but still. Also, don't worry about those rude comments. Those people rather tear others down instead of giving actual constructive and helpful criticism.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

I mean…that’s pretty fair and honest. I think you’re just being a little sensitive with this one, friend.

[@EmeraldAshesAudio]

How egregious are your line breaks? The people need to know.

[@Jaydee71172]

Sounds like you don’t like being criticized either. The thing about real art and being a real artist is about presenting your work. The responses are irrelevant. Success may be nice, but if that’s why you are creating art then you are missing the point.

[@bipolarbeinganddoing8070]

@@Jaydee71172 I think you missed the point of my comment. Of course I didn't like the criticism, but Gabby is saying that only those involved in the literary world can consume and criticise her art, and I'm saying, she would be absolutely torn apart.

[@howdyitsren]

constructive criticism isn’t building someone up. it’s offering actionable advice that takes the person being criticized in good faith.

[@ghoul_from_nowhere3974]

As someone who is studying art history, hearing her say “art is intrinsically worthless” not only angers me but makes me think her concept of art is based on a very modern, splotches of paint, hanging wires type of art, and of course, liking more modern, abstract and conceptual art is perfectly fine, beauty is subjective. But besides the obvious monetary value art has always have, and still does, art has historical, anthropological, sociological value, to name just a few. Art has literally help us understand entire societies, reconstruct their beliefs, sociopolitical systems. I think she just proves herself right with those kinds of statements, she does see things as if she’s at the center of everything, her enlightenment or whatever showed her the truth, her own truth where art is just a way to express “how I feel and all the hardships I went through”.

[@theEumenides]

I honestly think she only said that because she doesn't understand what the word "intrinsically" means.

[@tonichan89]

Gabbie, if you didn't think Rachel worhy of critiqueing your art, WHY DID YOU SEND A COPY TO HER FOR REVIEW 😭

[@tashibalampkin8555]

If you told me that Oxford Union was gonna host Gabbie Hanna, I would laugh. Now I'm one with egg on my face.

[@user-ld6th3vw8e]

"in a drama with Jessie Smiles" kinda brushes past how awful Gabbie's rape apologism was and how fucked up she was with Jessie

[@emixze]

especially when we listen to the part about "let's not make it hard for other people, we need to cover up. we know people have sexual urges and low self control". its just awful...

[@hollydaugherty2620]

This video isn't about that. If you need a 20 min video about that, go find one. This is about another topic. Not every video can cover every issue in someone's public life.

[@tashibalampkin8555]

Whats with all these drama filled influencers turning to religion?

[@babywigeon]

a lot of people lost in life seem to turn to religion-perhaps to feel absolved of their past, or to be able to deflect any criticism they receive in the name of having a moral high ground

[@beeboi0097]

​@@babywigeonI think it could also be a type of damage control.

[@adoboflav4skin]

3:18 this whole part here

[@michelleoda8424]

finding a community that is not going to criticize them, but cuddle them no matter what they did wrong BEFORE converting I said this bc I was an evangelist and that's basically the pattern in this kind of people

[@mariokarthero1997]

See the thing is, while I don't mind the idea of turning to religion, what I see happening a lot of the time is that people start engaging in similar behaviours that got them into trouble in the past or spouting harmful opinions against the LGBT community, and then going to justify it by being behind the barrier of Christianity. It's not all of them, but that's a pattern I've started to notice. This is coming from someone who was a Catholic Christian up until 6 years ago. EDIT: Watching more of the video and yeeeeeah, she's definitely one of "those kinds of Christians".

[@babyleafsaladd5322]

Completely besides the point but as someone who works at the Edinburgh Fringe every year, the popcorn lady isn’t even scraping the surface of how weird some of the shows that come to fringe can be.

[@mirriam6997]

21:19 what happened to plucking your eyes out when you find other people’s bodies sexually arousing?? Isn’t that what Jesus said?

[@childofgod759]

most of the shit she says can be contradicted by jesus' teachings lmfao 😭

[@MagisterialVoyager]

rules for thee but not rules for me, babes 😭

[@al38447]

Someone clearly does not understand, the difference between being literal & figurative.

[@al38447]

@@MagisterialVoyager You are clearly illiterate.

[@sandy_carpetsthesecond5013]

​@@al38447That was figurative. The original quote is talking about removing parts of yourself that lead you to sin. Would plucking your eyes out to stop arousal not be a proper interpretation?

[@caseyw.6550]

She's the actual definition of "insufferable." Look it up.

[@sarnjes4810]

I looked it up and was not disappointed. The example was "An insufferable bully." lol

[@TheAvprobeauty]

I didn’t need to look it up, but I will counter with, “also insipid”. 😂

[@brokengirlsrus]

Damn how is she still talking bad about Rachel Oates?! Her review of Gabbie's stuff WAS constructive! Gabbie is the one bullying Rachel

[@MagisterialVoyager]

i think GH clutches on SO HARD precisely because there's nothing else she can find fault on regarding Rachel's critique. i can asses some critiques with, "well, i see your point, but i made these decisions because of XYZ", but i feel like Rachel truly delivered a really balanced critique and GH only has Rachel herself to attack.

[@TheVerosyv]

I know the motive - she's gonna promote an MLM soon 😂

[@rameesha5838]

And maybe if she manages to find a partner, she can start making tradwife content

[@dramaticvirghoe]

ain’t no way gabbie hana making a comeback send her back 😭

[@littleblondegirl1940]

To go to Oxford for a speech, only to use the word “like…” and “whatever” every other word is WILD.

[@joywagner979]

And wear a ballcap to accessorize a sweatshirt that says "OXFORD."

[@Eleese__]

@@joywagner979that outfit made me weirdly mad.

[@corncobbob2326]

I rememberJennifer Coolidge going to Brown University for a speech for this year's graduating class and as casual or informal as the tone of her speech was at times, she was serious and definitely had a point to get across. You can tell she genuinely cared about what she wanted to tell the graduates and she put a more professional image than Gabbie.

[@Matt-id5mi]

while I have my criticisms for gabbie hannah and her behavior, this is not one of them. Basically saying you have to be intellectually meticulous with your word choices in order to have something of value to say is very interesting on your part.

[@joywagner979]

@@Matt-id5mi *at Oxford*, yes, you should probably be intellectual and meticulous with your words. Another commenter mentioned Jennifer Coolidge giving a speech at Brown as a counterpoint. There is being slightly informal, and then there is Gabbie Hanna at Oxford.

[@megkelly1081]

if god is with her who can be against her? girl me, I can

[@al38447]

You are clearly illiterate.

[@this-aint-no-party]

"like... like... like..." god the oxford clips were hard to watch

[@raaaaaaarr]

If they have a transcriptionist i hurt for them. Gotta write it as ", like," drives me insane

[@kaitwhy8337]

23:21 My dad has rediscovered his faith later in life and I have a theory about those particular individuals: they turn to God because they are incapable of taking counsel from anyone "lesser" than them. But the kick is, when they "seek" God's counsel, what they are really interacting with is their own ego. But maybe I'm in my feels and my opinion is skewed 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@kaitwhy8337]

Haha, listened for another minute and heard you covering evangelical narcissism 😅

[@tonichan89]

It's so convenient that god always tells them to do what they already wanted to do anyway 😅

[@MagisterialVoyager]

nah, they're totally using god's name in vain. "i will do all these unhealthy things, but it's ok because it's on a religious context." bruh, stop. 😭

[@samanthamellios240]

This is so spot on!

[@supergirlysofia3054]

I’m a Christian and my biological father was a child molestor, who thinks he is saved because he believes in Jesus… But the demons believe in Jesus too, and a huge part of being saved is repentance. My biological father never repented. Many of these individuals delight in evil and go back to Christianity because they want something to hide behind and make them feel safe. But if they continue to delight in evil, the Lord will tell them “Depart from me, I never knew you” so rest assured, if someone says they are Christian but they don’t represent Jesus well, it’s because they don’t. They are just using His name in vain. Twisting His name to justify their behavior or beliefs.

[@Hdjwjzjaiahznsjwu]

2:48 maybe the first time the word “dude” was uttered in an Oxford union talk

[@Morqana]

Now why on earth was she invited to this? That's on Oxford. I can think of 10 ppl off the top of my head just in MY community, who are far more impactful, community leaders. Anyone else could've done SO much more with a platform like that.

[@MagisterialVoyager]

sometimes the academics are awkward. i wouldn't put it past oxford.

[@emz58440]

Cus Oxford Union is student run lol

[@MagisterialVoyager]

@@emz58440 i imagine some poor, young, and inexperienced students chose her. to be fair, i was a really awkward 19 years old who was thrusted in a student organisation as their treasurer lol, so i feel for them.

[@Turbuggy]

“Because I’m funny 🙄” It was not funny. It was genuinely frightening and incredibly worrying.

[@julieblair7472]

She's only an expert on herself and has no insight so she has veryt little to share.

[@trotfoxtrot]

the reason so many influencers turn to the christian conservative crowd after their fame has run its course, is bc of the money. thats a built-in guarantee fanbase that will throw insane amounts of money at anyone who will recite their talking points plus the added attention & yesmaning that feeds the creator's ego. its the easiest consistent paycheck you can get

[@megadeltsmarcy]

Pretty sure they learned this from politicians, they do the same thing unfortunately

[@trotfoxtrot]

@@megadeltsmarcy 100%

[@remigo]

ah yes another failed celeb gone religious

[@EmeraldStarryEyez]

Celeb is a push

[@lindseystein9676]

She’s pivoted to religious mania…

[@user-ly2cm6zk5l]

The pipeline from mental health crisis to religious mania is an old one and when people use words like ‘soul ties’ enough has been said

[@2dents513]

So she hasn't changed at all. And like most narcissistic or pretty bad people, they go to god and become 'religious'. If i had a nickel....

[@applelan3]

I would be loadeddddd

[@pickledbuns]

If I was a writer and needed my work reviewed I would want Rachel Oates to critique it!! She’s incredibly well read and so intelligent! She would also be honest!

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

Rachel is based 👑

[@tashibalampkin8555]

10:42 "My sister has a degree in performance art. It was a mistake." Dude, what. 😂

[@benjaminmcelroy6894]

Oh my god that uncontrollable urges comment ENRAGES me. Like Gabbi i promise you no one is constantly sexually aroused! Like...is Gabbi essentially saying "Im honry 24/7 and thats EVERYONES FAULT"

[@renaenae4795]

her weird insistence tht women existing was at fault for 14 yr old biys being horny and therefore porn addicts was too wild

[@SpecialBlanket]

Ehhhh idk. When I started T it did feel like ALL the time. It was actually scary and not at all pleasant. I didn't come close to assaulting anyone though.

[@benjaminmcelroy6894]

@@SpecialBlanket that's for and valid honestly I don't think I quite thought put my comment all the way through

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

How is she still mad at Rachel? It's been so long at this point; Rachel doesn't even think about her on her channel and even then that review was 100% constructive! She seems to have forgotten (or left out) that one of the main pillars of her religion is to forgive others.

[@celinay]

Gabbie went from "art is my life. I was put on this earth to create." To "Art is utterly meaningless." Bc Rachel didn't like her poetry, but yeah, we're gonna believe that she didn't care about the VALID criticisms. Sure jan 🤨🤦‍♀️

[@mariahlamb2983]

I had so much empathy for this woman when she was experiencing a fully public mental health crisis. But hearing her say all of that after having been so concerned for her.. the way she's trying to pass it off as her just being funny and intelligent instead of enduring (or now possibly mocking ???) an extremely serious thing a lot of people deal with is ridiculous. I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt and say she's suddenly fallen into another, less extreme, crisis and is purely in denial. But idk man

[@Yvesouler]

did not see this gabbie hanna story arc coming...

[@TheAvprobeauty]

It’s disturbing that an educational institution gave her a platform. Especially, Oxford. Wow.

[@Useernaamee]

12:50 At this 200+ post 24 hour cycle Gabbie was clearly high as a kite. My best guess would be shr00ms or L$D - this intense urge to change the whole world, right now because you realized your complete autonomy in that moment is seen so often but very rarely do people post it all on the internet because they are alone at home with millions of followers. Good intentions and SOME good arguments with very bad takes as well - like the person screaming in front of a walmart.

[@joywagner979]

I was thinking meth. My former neighbors tweaked and that's how they talked on Day 3 of being awake smoking crystal.

[@hhdbhn302]

she just loooooves to hear herself talk

[@LSM1221]

22:19 the way she starts with the image of a 14 y/o boy watching girls on tiktok 🚩🚩🚩 like why is that where her mind went??? I can't be the only one who thought that that was such a leap from talking about other people's husbands??? The total backflip to talking about minors in a s*xual context made me realise who she reminds me of and it's Colleen Ballinger and that is not who you want to embody as an influencer.

[@breadpilled2587]

That was so incredibly gross. The first thing she thinks of is... horny kids??? Like wtf

[@steffymuze]

Idk. My mind was already spinning at the level of hypocrisy, flip-flopping and just plain out of touch ignorance (and stupidity, ignorance can be fixed) she's shown up to, and no doubt, continuing past this point.

[@ArturGlass.C]

Nah I thought that was creepy too. There are lots of grown ass men watching women dance on tiktok and just older teenagers too. I don't know why she fixated on the 14 year old thing instead of just making a general point.

[@mellow_mallow]

no literally my first thought was "hey why are you audibly fantasizing about children being aroused"

[@gabriellegay4097]

I have borderline personality disorder, a lot of gabbie’s behaviors, thought processes, and actions seem so familiar to me. A likely mental illness of some kind does not excuse any of her behavior, particularly the $hit religious stuff, but if she doesn’t confront the root of her very real issues she’s going to be stuck in this cycle for the rest of her life. I feel so sorry for her in some respects

[@jewelxiat]

It's just unfortunate because in order to pursue help, she has to want it; she has to believe she needs help. But with someone like her, I doubt she's going to seek for it unless something really awful happens to her. I feel like it would be beneficial for people to just fall back and not give her attention but that's easier said than done lol...

[@gabriellegay4097]

@@jewelxiat totally agree, she’ll keep engaging in the same behaviors she feels rewarded for

[@SpecialBlanket]

Seems like npd/bpd plus bipolar. I don't like making fun of her. I think she's sincere and suffering.

[@hoennfanboy]

shoutout rachel oates, was watching her before the gabbie shit and shes incredible and did not deserve the harassment

[@tonichan89]

I still can't believe Jimmy Snow sided with Gabbie and treated Rachel, his FRIEND, so poorly. Pretty ironic that Gabbie ended up taking this path, considering he's also called Mr Atheist.

[@thomneta6813]

Okay so but the performing artist the person at 11:30 talks about is circus performer Tara Boom. I wouldn't categorise this act as performance art as she is highly skilled at circus hoola hoops and it is in fact incredibly campy and comedic.

[@tamiaalyssacornelius211]

Her Oxford interview irritated and frustrated me. She took a year off and matured backwards.

[@MagisterialVoyager]

i feel like she religious bypass any meaningful growth she can have... 💀

[@Nikkers8]

Gabbie is trying on Pearl's brand of self-hatred, rage-baiting for clicks. She can be Christian without condemning others. The hyprocrisy.

[@lone-welf]

"i can always tell its Him because it brings me to my knees & snot and tears start pouring out of my face." i cannot breath.

[@kentuckybambi]

to say art is intrinsically worthless just shows what you place worth in. art exists for the sake of love, documentation, connection, perseverance, progress, and innate human compulsion. art is everything that has worth.

[@koii55]

Critique is a skill in itself that not all artists are good at

[@SkarGig]

Real question. She's always "in her room" or "in her house" but one time I noticed I loved her gold and lilac curtains in her "new room setup" but then any video ive happened upon since then, She's never been in that room. in fact, it seems shes always in a different room. how many houses does she have?!?

[@carolitoffana]

I think the Canceled to Christian influencer pipeline is because the christian/family/christian mom's community is very...not dumb but limited, so they tend to just 'wish blessings' and fall for all the scams no questions asked, specially because it's part of christian culture to not question anything, they are EXTREMELY loyal and engaged, so it makes sense to capitalize from them, it happens here in my country too, they will defend them and deny logic till the very end, its kinda insane

[@NickS-m3h]

"Its part of Christianity not to question anything" no it isnt. Thats part of the entire faith - questioning the physical world and have an open mind.

[@carolitoffana]

@@NickS-m3h No it's not, I grew up Christian and I know that no one has an "open mind" in there about anything

[@NickS-m3h]

@@carolitoffana I grew up Catholic. I can assure you there are people in the church who have an open mind. Religious people having convictions based on their faith does not automatically mean they arent open minded. To be open minded means youre receptive to new ideas. Forming opinions and having limits to what you are willing to condone or stand beside does not automatically mean you are closed-minded.

[@lone-welf]

8:57 i can so clearly tell by her voice tones & influxes & body language, she is so angry & bitter then passively chuckles to seem like its a light hearted thing. the energy of the interviewer and audience is so heavy & uncomfortable. this is mind blowing to witness.

[@easilystartled2203]

It is so unbelievably frustrating that the very last thing you can convince a narcissist of is how transparent their behaviors are. They will never believe it. They always think they're more layered and complex in their motivations than anyone else could ever comprehend. It is so embarrassing to watch someone cling to some truly basic denial, like you could be watching her drown, telling her she's drowning, handing her a floatation device, and she will "YOU DON'T GIVE ME THE CREDIT, I'M A PROFESSIONAL SWIMMER, YOU DON'T HAVE THE CERTIFICATION TO BE TELLING ME I'M DROWNING SO WHY SHOULD I EVER LISTEN TO YOU" and then she jarringly shifts her mood and starts giggling "Like I'm not mad, you're just a hack lol, like do you not understand *I'm* the person controlling this situation, like you are being emotionally manipulated by my erratic behavior *more giggles* and you're so stupid for not understanding that I'm just smarter than you.... .......SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE DEVIL IT'S RUINING OUR MINDS, but also stream my music, follow me on all the platforms :D" and then her words turn into bubbles as she does, in fact, drown.

[@kendall9683]

wish it wasn’t so taboo to call religion out for what it is (a lot of brainwashing, magical thinking, and denial)

[@simonii96]

How is it taboo? I see and hear people bashing religion and religious people ALL the time 😅

[@kendall9683]

@@simonii96 i don’t mean to bash (especially the people!). i think a lot of atheists go about it the wrong way - i do think there are a lot of flaws w religion in terms of reality/magical thinking/brainwashing that can really skew people’s ways of seeing the world though that i feel don’t get called out. i think it’s in everyone’s best interest to be able to see the world clearly and think individually

[@NickS-m3h]

Because thats not what it is. Small sects of evangelical converts who scream and yell and jump around do not represent the entire faith.

[@_babydoll_]

You've of course read the entire bible cover to cover right?

[@jackandlill]

I found it so interesting that Gabbie Hanna had been invited to speak at Oxford in the same way I found it so interesting that they invited Terrence Howard to speak on his nonsensical science. Are they conducting some secret experiment using people w/seemingly untreated mental health disorders??

[@sophia-v5b]

and what are her qualifications to write and publish poetry...?

[@kylenoisegriffin]

friendly reminder that if someone's eyes are wandering bc of what you're wearing, it's *not* your responsibility to keep them in check, it is theirs

[@tamiaalyssacornelius211]

How do you put something out for general public then get mad when the general public has an opinion???

[@085cur1ty]

they’ll really let anyone into Oxford huh

[@protomoon]

I'm sorry, but most people who post reviews of any kind of media, whether in written or video form, are not posting it for the creator(s) of that media. Reviews are typically made to either help inform potential consumers and/or to entertain. No creator is inherently owed kindness or genuine critique in reviews. Just like Gabbie can get up there and say all the nasty things she does about people who review her work, those people are equally allowed to dunk on her bad poetry. If anything, they're more entitled to now that she's been so rude, imo. Also, I feel like the evangelical turn is something canceled youtubers do because it can pivot them to a new audience. I feel like she's two steps away from going either full conservative christian or starting some kind of christian retreat with a price tag in the 1000s.

[@ThestuffthatSaralikes]

I’m so sick of people “finding God” and expecting that to act as an eraser to the past. Her apology gives me “I’m doin the steps but MY way” vibes and “I just got outta jail and need to keep up the religion thing for a bit” too.

[@littlep111]

She will never change. Her maturity is stunted and hopeless

[@Dragondude2525]

9:03 but having a university degree saying you studied the subject for years… that’s not enough to then be able to critique a written work. Hmmmmm. Sure.

[@RedRan6er]

Damn shes still so salty about that book review XD

[@celinay]

Not trying to be rude at all... but why did oxford invite her???? This feels so random

[@melaverageb]

Psychology workshop, they’re probably secretly studying her lol

[@lethallaurin]

"it's not about profiting" "I aLrEaDy GoT yOuR mOnEyYyYy"