Gaijin Butchered This Tank

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Of all the vehicles in War Thunder, the American T25 medium tank has received possibly the harshest treatment from Gaijin devs. Not only did it move way up in battle rating, but it was nerfed and stayed at the same BR.
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Gaijin Butchered This Tank

[@Spookston]

Update on the microphone situation since some people were concerned about it; I'm only gonna use the headset mic when I'm working away from my desktop. I'm investing in an audio interface and have done a few other things that should make the regular mic sound better. I wasn't happy with how much the sound of my KB and mouse came through on it but I've more or less solved that problem.

[@Jaloop22]

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[@homiespaghetti1522]

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[@derrickstorm6976]

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[@Michael_OBrian]

Any chance of a video on the design and history of the CV90 family?

[@LtNurse]

Hey if ur playing Gaijins most hated tanks, you gotta play the comet. Poor thing was nerfed to oblivion for no reason

[@OddBawZ]

I get a lump in my throat every time I see this thing. I swear the devs got killed by this thing in their Tiger once and when someone posted dubious documents they couldn’t wait to nerf it.

[@Jotgut]

What even is the best lineup at this br for the US?

[@LoneWolf-kw3ol]

​@@Jotgut 6.3 is no longer a BR for the US because 6.7 and 7.0 are just infinitely better. T25, T28, M18 Super, Pershing and Super Pershing Except at 6.7 the M56 has HEATFS, M18 super got hard capped on its top speed (ahistorical, very unfair, much anger), SuperP got moved to 6.7 and M26 also doesnt get a stab. Oh, and you also get M50 HEAT spammer and T114 which is pretty ridiculous for a 6.7. 7.0 M46 is just a faster M26 with HEATFS and stabbed, then you get T29, A2D-1 and T95.

[@kingoftheneeks3623]

​@@LoneWolf-kw3ol m46 doesn't have stab

[@BlueWizi]

@@LoneWolf-kw3ol unless I’m a complete idiot, pretty sure the M46 does not have a stab, having played it a bunch recently

[@FuriousFire898]

Sup Step OffBawZ

[@Maximilian-do]

I recently unlocked the T25 and was very hyped. After some matches I went back to the M4A2 76w because it is just depressing to play, even with M82 unlocked it just sucks way too much in the mobility departement. It reminds me of the Jagdtiger but without any über-pen and no armour.

[@liamkurtyhnigov4064]

pershing all the way! (after the pershings its back to pain (aka APCBC in 7.3 pain AND YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH STUPID AMOUNT OF MODIFICATION FOR THE HEAT ROUND WHY )

[@Maximilian-do]

@@liamkurtyhnigov4064 yup, the Pershing is currently still pain because I am stock, but already have M82. So the pain is more bearable.

[@aexandereung5686]

I'm still on 5.x for US line but the M36 already ruined my expectations for the coming US meds lol. It cant pen Panthers any better than Shermans... Maybe I'm too used to Russian TDs that would yeet through Panthers with the 122 APHE but still

[@Daniel-dn7lk]

​@@aexandereung5686 If you're fighting panthers head on in an M36, then you need to rethink how you are playing it. If you meant the M26 instead, then yeah, it just kinda sucks.

[@troutwarrior6735]

In other words, it’s like the jag tiger but without the things that make the jag tiger good 😂

[@CheezeSpartan]

“Look at em suffer arggarggargarggarggarg!” - Gaijin staff upon “fixing” the T25 and T20

[@samuelstein3412]

T20 is still very good

[@nigaballs9603]

​@samuel stein No, it isn't. It has horrible armor and regularly has to play in uptiered matches where it can barely pen anything. The only thing it has going for it is it's low profile, stab, and good reverse speed, but none of those positives of the T20 justify it being at 6.0 instead of 5.7.

[@jimig.688]

@@nigaballs9603 It still works at 6.0 if you're positioned well and the enemy isn't too smart. It's true that you can't really do much to Tiger 2 Hs, Jagdtigers, and other extra heavy tanks frontally, but in my experience, those don't appear too often. The most common enemies are still Panthers, Tigers, T-34s, etc, against which the T20 works great thanks to the decent mobility, stabilizer, quick reload, and reliable round.

[@nigaballs9603]

@Jimi G. It's obviously doable, just not fun in any way. In my own experience, I basically only face Tiger 2s and Jagdtigers and shit, and get raped by their massive fucking guns at ranges where none of my shots could even hope to pen them.

[@jimig.688]

@@nigaballs9603 I've had lots of great games with it even after they put it to 6.0. It should be at 5.7, I agree but gaijin won't do anything about it since its stats are probably pretty good still.

[@arlobones3410]

Gaijin systematically destroying every good vehicle:

[@BaguetteGamingOfficial]

Except if its russian

[@kevincho1187]

​@@BaguetteGamingOfficial *German

[@commander1648]

@@kevincho1187 *cought* flarakrad *cought*

[@garrettlittle1279]

@@stick_person857 How do you use the nerd emolji but then have grammer so bad I now have a headache.

[@keeganfox1864]

Systemically destroying every good non-russian* vehicle *Sekrit Dokuments Komrade*

[@CheezeSpartan]

2:22 With the amount of times I’ve experienced this sort of behavior from teammates recently, I wouldn’t be surprised if Gaijin added kamikaze bots programmed to collide and mess up your shot.

[@pritchy6071]

The Rothschilds paying the Sherman tank to ram into me as im about to kill someone:

[@proofostrich9061]

If you think that was the Sherman’s fault then I would hate to drive with you.

[@satanhell_lord]

I've had teammates follow just behind me, where I then run headfirst into a building or a rock like an idiot, then then ramming into me, getting killed, then complaining I stopped in front of them lmfao

[@Far3288]

@@proofostrich9061 don’t you feel a little silly? don’t you feel a little stupid?

[@proofostrich9061]

@@VxylonIn a small urban map it is impossible NOT to be 10-20m from a teammate. The entire point of having a teammate in the first place is that they are close to you and can assist you. Also, it is very possible he didn’t realize he would stop. He can’t sit there and pause and rewind the video and focus on individual things like you can. He was likely focusing on something else other than the random heavy tank marker on the map. Even if he did realize he would stop, he couldn’t have stopped in time to not hit him since Spookston came to a stop immediately due to hitting the wall rather than actively slowing down before then like any sane person would do. When you driving and you want to stop, you don’t just immediately slam the brakes, you gradually slow down so the person behind you can do the same. It doesn’t matter what their following distance is, if you immediately stop, they are going to rear end you.

[@Keep3r1438]

War Thunder community: “The Panther isn’t hard to kill, just shoot the mantlet” The mantlet: 5:43

[@FuriousFire898]

British Pen: hahah Funny Front plate 1 shots

[@outrageoussharpie4107]

The Panther mantlet being complete and total bullshit, absorbing 90% of the 76/90mm rounds you put into it singlehandedly makes me not want to play mid tiers US ground, and it's probably why almost everyone takes exclusively the M18 at 5.7

[@rxzxqx6982]

because of volumetric shell, if you don't shoot right between gun sleeve and mantlet edge, it will non pen

[@Guy_GuyGuy]

I hate Panthers. I hate playing them and I hate playing against them. When you're playing against it nothing pens the front hull (not even Comet APDS anymore) and the turret trolls every shot, meanwhile the Panther driver just has to click on every other 5.3-6.0 medium. When you're playing one, every shot that hits the turret goes through. And if that's not enough, there's *9 OF THEM IN GAME.* And 6 of them are Germany.

[@FuriousFire898]

@@adamg7984 Comets and Churchills r tuff cookies

[@juawei1940]

still amazes me that the T25 is a whole BR higher than a Tiger 1 variant, higher than all the panthers and somehow at the same BR as a tiger 2, always seemed fair

[@Cris-xy2gi]

Can’t have German players hunting for weak spots like everyone else. Need hand holding the whole way

[@johanapolinarioveliz6754]

Yeah, but remember USA has the strongest CAS in mid tier, as a Germany main that has the Do 335 B2, I would always prefer my F2G when playing USA, because I'm sure many other teammates will spawn CAS and they might help me, contrary to spawning a Do335 and having to deal with p47s, p51s, f2g, f4u, A2D, AM1, and so on. So it's kinda balanced that Germany has really good ground, but the enmy can wipe at least 3 tanks with pure ordnance per plane. I definitely prefer to play USA and use M18 and premium FW190 or P47s before my premium Tiger with Do335.

[@johanapolinarioveliz6754]

It's incredibly rare to have matches with full CAS with DO 335. Myself has to be always in defensive because USA players love to spawn CAS planes and they are way more maneuverable than the Do335.

[@ArustwatDaGoat]

​@@johanapolinarioveliz6754 US planes doesn't have canons till 5.7+

[@CommanderKraft]

@@ArustwatDaGoat Wrong. All P-38s, P-39s, And P-63s have either 20mm or 37mm. Some Corsair models have 20mm cannons. One version of the hellcat also has 20s. So does the XP-50 and XP-55. Then you have the XA-38 with a 75mm. All are below 5.7.

[@jackeyboy6538]

love the part with the panther mantlet, for a second I felt that someone else experienced 1/100th of my pain playing the jumbo against endless panther spam

[@wokedog1799]

Especially before the APHE round, dumping five shells to destroy the barrel of a panther or KV-85 really isn't fun

[@morva4498]

​@@wokedog1799 5 shells? Yeah that sounds about right.

[@SpruceReduce8854]

Even when you do nuke the panther turret, the driver/radio operator are completely fine

[@ThatGuy-cl8gc]

Wait till your 90mm are bouncing off tiger 1s panthers and tiger 2 and you finally start screaming at your computer

[@britishspy4791]

A vehicle gaijin made perfectly is the swing fire and it’s br is placed perfectly, and I think you would have fun playing it

[@Foxik58]

Id say ratel is better. Its lower br with better atgms and you get 20mm

[@gamingwolf6735]

@@Foxik58 Dude do you see the size of the Ratel good luck trying not to get mistaken for the empire state building

[@vonknorring09]

@@gamingwolf6735 if they mistake you for a house they wont shoot you at least

[@BacnManYT]

@@Foxik58 I'd make a counterpoint that the ratel-20 is a lot more larger and the Swingfire has a periscope that sticks out the top of the tank so that you can go full hull down and still fire at the enemy also the Swingfire missile has more explosive mass that the Milan missile that the ratle-20 uses, but whatever floats your boat my man, have a nice night or day :D

[@arandomcommenter412]

Are you a spy for the British or a spy against the British?

[@jeremynorthrop8287]

Hi Spookston, if you are still doing the more scripted analysis videos (like your videos on the M113 and the T-64), could you please do one on the Japanese Type 16 MCV? It’s conceptually a pretty interesting vehicle role, and there’s not too much out on it, especially in English.

[@jintsuubest9331]

There is nothing too interesting about Type 16. It is an upgraded wheel Type 74 without the disadvantage of being a type 74, and is intended to replace type 74. The various sub system is supposedly similar or identical to type 10.

[@kiryu5499]

This tank used to be the thing i wanted to grind the american tech tree for. Not anymore

[@corneliusmcmuffin3256]

Honestly the T25 always seemed like such a pointless vehicle to me. If you want armor you have the Pershing, and if you want maneuverability there’s the Super Hellcat. This does neither one right. The M36 does essentially the same job at lower BR.

[@oruzitch1117]

​@@corneliusmcmuffin3256 it was made pointless, it was probably the best 5.7 in the game.

[@Edo_Ginting]

​@@corneliusmcmuffin3256 Used to be the only stabbed 90mm in the game, and since it plays like an uparmored and upgunned sherman, people liked it, now the pershing made this thing redundant.

[@Gwestytears]

I hardly ever use the Pershing I just use the T26E5

[@MUTANG_Official]

8:58 Spookston : Get only 5~7 kills in a full downtier match. Gaijin : T25 too op, move to 6.7

[@FuriousFire898]

Nahh 9.7 😂

[@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline]

@@FuriousFire898 nahhhhh, they are expanding the ground BR rating system! It goes to 14.3, where it can only fight itself!

[@FuriousFire898]

@@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline Still cant win 😂

[@AHappyCub]

I got 15 once, it was a long time ago where it still sit at it's original BR Good times

[@arima272]

Dont give them any idea

[@bonboll5012]

Spookston calling someone a moron has the same vibe as a quiet kid who suddenly raised their voice in anger 💀

[@jankirpal1036]

The longer i watch Spookston, the more i notice hows hes spiraling into madness Like a True War Thunder player!

[@mixnmatchflavourbleach2313]

Spookston not using the .50 to finish off that puma while teammates could have been frothing at the mouth to steal his kill had my heart racing

[@phaeronseherekh1754]

@@russman3787 You can sidepen the Puma with a standard MG at medium to short range, a .50 can do it at that range.

[@boi8328]

Gaijin upon seeing 7:45 - 8:03 : "Yeah, we definitely didn't nerf it enough, time to forge some evidence so we have an excuse to nerf it more."

[@a.b.3455]

3:40 the panther mantlet is the bane of my existence, every time you try and shot it feels like a gamble.

[@blackshogun272]

when my TD shell gets shit on by a Panther mantlet I know my match is doomed

[@SemoventeDa]

Hey Spook, you should play the Semovente 75/46 M43. It's a deeply overshadowed italiano tank destroyer which can deliver an heavy punch but it's deeply ignored the potential it has. (Day 32)

[@Guy_GuyGuy]

Big fan of all the Semoventes. The first 3 were my go-to for clubbing the seal clubbers in M4A3 105s when it was 2.7, the HEAT penned them like butter. I like the 105/25 better for its BR than the 75/46 though.

[@heretichazel]

75/34 M43 is also great, same chassis but at 3.3, where 100mm of spaced armor is insane, especially when you're fighting things like StuH's that would normally lolpen you and don't know how to aim for anything but the front plate

[@SteelxWolf]

I 2nd this

[@Ko_Kasumi]

Everytime you mentioned the mobility i can't help but remember the fact that despite having video and document evidence of Type 10 out accelerating type 90 Gaijin still doesn't want to fix it. They hate transmissions i think

[@uhmuhwha]

Transphobic

[@goddepersonno3782]

I haven't heard of a single transmission fix in the entire memory of all the bug patches that I've read or experienced

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

​@@goddepersonno3782 used to be a bug where tanks would shift gears every nanosecond climbing hills Made me stop playing

[@blackcatthegreat182]

@@ICCUWANSIUT manual transmission exists :P

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

@@blackcatthegreat182 if i wanted to play manual i'd have started playing manual

[@maxliverpool]

You might like the Vickers Mk3 MBT, British (export) Tank with LRF and HEAT-FS, as well as a surprisingly decent SABOT and HESH. 8.0 so just at the upper end of your comfort zone.

[@sampurnell463]

he hates the british line. he wont like it at all as he makes perfectly abundantly clear every british game he plays. tbf the apds and the non filler rounds is pain

[@corneliusmcmuffin3256]

I feel like these videos are meant to highlight the shortcomings of the game so gaijin fixes them, not to sing their praises.

[@FuriousFire898]

I think it is a amazing tank but yeh Spookston Is bias against UK sad he's missing out

[@Edo_Ginting]

​​@@FuriousFire898 To be completely honest, he's not wrong, Leopard's and OF's turret seems to eat any and all APDS shots from 17 pdr, 20 pdr, 100mm, and 105mm cannons. And low tier APCBC lack the explosive filler to give them the Oomph of post-pen damage. France atleast has autoloaders and/or speed to compensate, british has naught but stabilizers on slow tanks in lower to mid tier.

[@switchboard0585]

its so funny to hear the mouse wheel frantically scrolling up/down when he adjusts the sights

[@Slayer_Jesse]

the thing that gets me is that this thing was added originally to bridge the gap between sherman and pershing, not unlike the VK prototype panther they recently added for germany. Now its just a worse pershing at the same BR, because "GeRManY SuFerRs"

[@hellbreaksloose5536]

I remember when it was at 5.3 with a stab. Stopped playing for about 2 years, picked WT up a month ago. I spent hours looking at old Phlydaily videos to make sure I was not insane.

[@khan-artist2443]

Alongside your idea of being able to move crew members, we should also be able to choose what parts get repaired first if we so wish when youve got a long timer from multiple broken parts. Sitting there while everything somehow repairs at the same slow speed when all you need in that moment is for your track to just be done quick so you can get to cover, or your gun to be done first so you can kill the guy near you before needing to move, is the most infuriating thing sometimes. And it usually finds a way to work against me with my luck.

[@maplesyrup6700]

I don't get why Gaijin would do this to a genuinely fun tank

[@maplesyrup6700]

oh right... Money

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

You aren't allowed to have fun. If you're having fun, you're not spending money in an effort to find satisfaction.

[@stagiestpizza]

they only let russian tanks be fun, everything else in game is just fodder for them

[@prancer8934]

Because you should have to pay money to have fun

[@reconzero5699]

​@@stagiestpizzame with my tiger 1: 🤣

[@RYHo-ni4my]

And now T25 got a 2 round ready-rack. Perfect....

[@mamarussellthepie3995]

Spookston: mrntions it should not have a stabilizer Gayjin: oh ok Spookston: hey wait

[@seanzhang8027]

T25 at 6.3 without a stabilizer, meanwhile gaijin casually adds the cent mk 2 with stabilizer as a battle pass vehicle at the same br

[@ougioshino6940]

I would bet the mk2 will go up to 6.7 even before the BP ends. Is british after all. Putting a BP or event vehicle at a low BR so people pay money to get it and then raising the BR is a classic at this point. The pt76 57 starting at 7.0 and the ebr at 4.3 were some of the most insane examples

[@calvinhell4006]

Spookston when something happens in the game that would make anyone else punch a hole in their monitor: "Oh goodness gosh golly, jeez Louise, heavens what an event, truly unfortunate"

[@redbarrelentertainment]

It's been over a year and this thing is STILL 6.3 while Germany still has Panthers at 5.0 and 5.3/7. What the absolute hell is wrong with these devs?? Mid-tier Germany is like a 13-year-old that's still breastfed. That's how handheld it is

[@The_blessed_dead]

I just got the t25. i was a little confused why I couldn't bounce anything. This video has been enlightening

[@Ignitedb1]

Why does gaijin hate the US?

[@setesh1294]

7:10 and that's why you keep backups of drives that have important documents like that. And I'm also glad I spaded the T25 a long time ago.

[@m-seb]

6:52 Reminder: if your important data doesn't exist on at least three separate storage devices it may as well not exist

[@CmoreChap]

Trying to spade T25 right now so and this video explains why I feel in am in an 'Up Tier' even when in a Gaijin 'Down Tier' which is actually more of an 'At Tier'. Facing an IS6 or IS3 for the first time in a Stock T25, a default round that pens nothing you face, 7.3 time after time after time still stock unable to gain even Parts/FPE, and you realise with stark clarity "Gaijin don't want you playing F2P any more past 6.0"

[@Aahmpower]

I had a hard time grinding out this tank. But i think I've got the handle of it. The T25 feels like a smaller Panther... .3 br higher, and also very slow. But the reverse speed does wonders on Urban maps

[@Kuschel_K]

It’s also pretty good hull down 🙂

[@ramal5708]

Phlydaily did a video on this tank and he got like at least 11 kills in a single game with the T25, 45 total in 4 games, I also got like 28 kills in 3 game with the T25 before they nerfed it.

[@jesseruks]

You should play the Marder. Great video though. No armor is best armor for the Marder considering it faces APFSDS on some tanks

[@Valenskytoporsky]

4:04 average document fight to get small buff on tank war thunder moment

[@captaingee8539]

What I get from this is that gaijin dislikes the U.S tanks

[@darjockulhominum4556]

Secondary name for the video: If only I had a stabilizer

[@prex2000]

Try using the Duster as an actual SPAA at 7.0, the giant br gap between that and the M163 means the M42 is clearly really good obviously

[@casematecardinal]

Pain. Also the m163 should have a radar and apds, and the rise engine. But of course American players can't have shit.

[@magnum6763]

@@casematecardinal Incorrect, the M163 never had a search radar. And it did not have the RISE engine. the M113's were only ever equipped with a 212 HP engine, or a 215 HP engine. Also it was never equipped with APDS, that was designed for the Phalanx CIWS, not the M163

[@casematecardinal]

@@magnum6763 wrong on all accounts. Quite impressive actually. The a3 variant sports the rise upgrade package. 20mm apds rounds were introduced with pivads for self defense along with an improved radar set and fire control.

[@Guy_GuyGuy]

The best US SPAA at 7.0 is the .50 cal on the top of your tanks.

[@lukav3509]

it actually is, i use it regularly and it kicks ass, i mean if a jet sees me and wants to kill me i will be dead but still get good air kills, rarely sometimes a bmp or marder.

[@SoloTURK11]

Bro the gun on that thing went through an angled tiger like butter

[@AbrahamLincolnOfficial1]

I think you would love the leopard 2k. It is a very well rounded vehicle

[@mango3638]

5:30 Spookston casually forgetting he has a .50 cal that can be used against light vehicles.

[@Kuschel_K]

Or that he can bring HE and also use APCR against fast moving targets that will most likely not trigger APHE fuze anyway 😋

[@noahross6563]

Could you play the T30? It's got the big American 155 on a really good chassis

[@corneliusmcmuffin3256]

If only they had a version of the T28/T95 with this gun, as seen in WoT. Never got said gun historically, but I’m pretty sure it was planned as a potential armament, along with a 120mm gun as another potential candidate (same armament as T34 Heavy Tank).

[@Intrepid42643]

Where’s them documents when you need them!🗣️

[@chasesmith306]

I'm sure German mains cried about American tanks having a stabilizer even though they can barely pen their tanks anyway

[@anthonyhouse6702]

6:18 basically all of 3.0 Sweden and down

[@YoBoyNeptune]

The T25 was a strange one for me. On paper it should be less survivable than the M26 but it felt like it bounced shots more often

[@dunamoose3446]

It did

[@lordwintertown8284]

G'day Spookston. Huh well that was interesting to see two rather rare tiger I tanks in the same vid heh seeing not only the Porsche Tiger & the Furry Tiger heh. (Hm I wish those odd events were more streamlined like now as I would totally have gotten that Tiger or Aerocobra). You may joke that there'll be a Premium T25 but shit like that has happened a few times especially with ships with some getting unjusted nerfs then BAM a premium option that has everything going for it at the same BR like one corvette is.

[@FlirBlitz]

Ah yes the T25 is so sad... its... depressing... I feel bad whenever I one shot it. Also day 11 of asking for the IS-6

[@reducedreds5307]

Spookston: Says tank is bad Spookston: Gets 5-7 kills

[@chill_asian8881]

Hey Spookston, you should play the SU-85M, it has insane armor at 5.0

[@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS]

I wouldn't call it insane, it just grabs the 45mm t34 hull armor and slaps a 75mm instead. Anything bigger than 76mm will go Tru, unless u snipe from like 2km or something

[@AFT_05G]

German guns still laugh at it

[@snekky9015]

5.7 memories hit hard

[@GoldRaven-oe4by]

This thing should be at 5.7

[@boxesoftacos]

Dear spooky spookston I humbly request the AB-43 on italy

[@AA96A]

I've had a lot of issue with Panther manlets recently too. It's immensely frustrating

[@Kuschel_K]

Yeah both Panther and Tiger mantlets are way too effective. Realistically, every time the mantlet gets penetrated it would weld the mantlet to the turret, blocking vertical traverse. Hence why the Cent Mk. 10 has a less vulnerable turret than the previous Cents, despite the older mantlets consisting of more armor. Later they went with a mantletness designs which reduced this from happening. It’s a general problem in WT that some armor arrangement are way too effective. Like some MG ports or driver vision ports 😑

[@MrTheWaterbear]

I shot a Panther D 10 times in the mantlet from near point blank range with the Ho-Ri Prototype APHE, and it only penned once, killing the commander. They fucked up.

[@thor82ak]

Yea its insane when you look at the German tanks, armor, cannon, engines, then you look at the BR and then you are like.. W...T...F....

[@johnplies2778]

I feel your pain with the non-pens, I have had so many shots that should pen that don't or bounce. I get angry mosly when that happens when I shoot people in the sides.

[@ErenikGillgrenov]

panther mantlet is busted af

[@phobosatthegatesofe3m158]

Really needed this vid. 6.3 used to be my favorite but now the constant uptiers are too brutal. I was lossing my sanity glad to now Im not the only one.

[@FatherGrigori]

Around 7.0 for the us was a blur for me, I was struggling to do well but I eventually pushed through. Might be a skill issue though

[@ryanh2621]

No, its painful, i remember it vividly

[@racket804]

Currenly playing the T32 at 7.3 and yeah... It feels like playing the King Tiger but you have a 20 sec reload and youre two BR levels above it. It basically feels like the Tiger II H (10.5 cm) except your turret is a bit stronger and hull is weaker, and youre 7.3 so everying has HEAT-FS and your armor doesnt matter.

[@JaesWasTaken]

Absolutely broke my heart when Gaijin took the Nerf bat to the T25. US used to have an S Tier 6.0 line up with this, the T20, and 76 Jumbo, then Gaijin decided US isn't allowed to have a good mid tier line up and gutted the T25 and bumped up the 76 Jumbo, leaving the T20 all by its lonesome. There's no reason to ever use this vehicle over the M26. Absolute travesty.

[@AlreadyTakenTag]

Theory: 25 is Gaijin's unlucky number.

[@dickg]

Counterpoint: Su-25.

[@AlreadyTakenTag]

@@dickg valid counterpoint. 25 truly is one of Gaijin's numbers of all time

[@bullex1452]

we got Spookston using documents to win arguments now, LETS GOOOOO

[@the7observer]

Gaijin hating on something that is not russian? they tottaly wouldn't do that *sarcasm*

[@bananataco1235]

I had that same issue with the IS-2 the other day where it couldn't go through the front of a panther another Panther showed up and I shot him straight the mantlet just fine but for whatever reason Gaijin decided to let the other panther take like 4 shots and then get killed by a teammate

[@bananataco1235]

@I deadlift 20kg an IS-2?

[@bananataco1235]

@I deadlift 20kg Bro the IS-2's shell has 205mm's of penetration I can go through the front of a tiger like butter.

[@bananataco1235]

@I deadlift 20kg Bro I main the IS-2. I have never not penned a tiger from the front mantlet.

[@AFT_05G]

@I deadlift 20kg It’s up to 200mm at some points.Tiger E mantlet is about as strong as Tiger II H in most spots.

[@timebomb45]

I'm a free to play American main and the T-25 is the tank that convinced me to give up on American mediums/heavies until the m48 and just play light tanks.

[@okeman7614]

Gaijin would decrease all German vehicles br and they would think it’d make everything more balanced. F to American tech tree fr

[@berserkenjoyer7886]

I love the "put it in reverse terry!" meme, I think of it whenever I have to back up or do anything similar

[@NA-yq4uq]

at 2:08 Slovenian flag XD

[@patrikcarga]

It is very cool

[@PablitoAndCo]

5:39 onwards is the reason why I'm taking a very long break from playing this game. You just love seeing MGs and periscopes eating perfectly placed shots.

[@BlueLightningHawk]

The Russian company hates America and nerfs the shit out of it while simultaneously buffing the holy hell out of their own countries vehicles. Amazing.

[@tranarchist6335]

What is it with Puma players having such a false sense of security in zooming through an open field

[@howtodefeatisis1015]

I see no reason for this to be 6.3 when the Jackson is a full br lower, the armor is garbage, the mobility is okay at best, same ammo with same characteristics, the only thing this really has over other stuff is the reverse speed. Obviously, this should be at 7.3

[@Benzo3463]

I haven’t played this vehicle for a minute because of the nerfs, but it will always have a special place in my heart. I got my first nuke in it I think the day after nukes were added before the stabilizer got taken away, back when I used to demolish in it. But I intentionally haven’t played it, so I don’t kill my good memories in it and have them get replaced with getting 0 kill games

[@Zealot2024]

What spookston forgets is that basically every american tank got moved up and nerfed at the same time. See the Jumbo, the M18, the M4A3 76, the M4A2 76, etc. America was the real loser when volumetric was implemented.

[@MiGLifeCrisis]

no the 76s Sherman kick ass and also the M18 is still amazing, they buffed it's horsepower so it's literally way faster

[@Zealot2024]

@@MiGLifeCrisis its not "way faster," and it went up at the same time (with the premium m18, btw, which did not get the HP upgrade)

[@galaxlordcz3933]

6:20 Mantlets in WT are pure bullshit, I remember when I started people telling me that the Tigers mantlet was the weakspot, but it newer worked. Any area with overlapping armor is pointless to shoot at.

[@AlexSDU]

7:38 You're not salty. You're just well marinated.😂

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Most tanks have incorrect acceleration and torque because Gaijin is terrible at map design and nerfed traction instead.

[@towarzyszbeagle6866]

I reckon the T-20 is the tank they truly ruined. It was once a really great 5.7 premium. Then they uptiered it. Now it's at 6.0 with the 76mm which really suffers.

[@TheKsalad]

I don't even play WT anymore, I just watch Spookston for tank videos, but im sad to see my favorite American medium outside of the Shermans getting the nerf hammer so bad, I remember flying and topping scoreboards in the T25

[@ronintheronin8035]

This vid was straight out of the salt mines where salt is a lifestyle. *Chef's kiss*

[@juusolatva]

I once lost important stuff too due to a hard drive giving up and now I obsessively back up everything worthwhile. Now when it comes to tanks, I know you don't like to play higher BRs, slow tanks or don't enjoy APDS, but I'd still like to see you play any variant of the Chieftain, since it's often overlooked, and the Chieftain Mk 3 is not that bad at 8.3, though it is the slowest one, since the Chieftain Mk 5 gets a slightly better engine. The Chieftain Mk 10 and the Khalid do get LRF and APFSDS at 9.0 and you get to choose between pretty decent Stillbrew armour or quite good mobility due to the Khalid getting the same engine as the Challengers.

[@lunseren]

Me: getting my favourite map, downtier and in my favourite tank. Some plane two minutes in the game: you’ve got mail.

[@yam2158]

Hello Sir Spookston, could you please play the Jagdpanther? It's mentioned as the best pound-for-pound gun in the game. Apparently it's mentioned that it has great accuracy, penetration, damage potential and fire rate. Thank you.

[@ryeo9907]

Spookston is devolving into madness more and more by the video. Now play some more M41D, we all know you still have backups on that thing

[@MyWaifuNow]

American heavy/medium tanks are just super depressing after the shermans. They lose the stabilizers which is like the one advantage American tanks had and in return get to fire mediocre rounds with mediocre armor.

[@casematecardinal]

The worst of which are the t32s worse in every compared to the russian heavies around the br

[@verarmterpolitiker]

The Werner Herzog snippet is great. I laughed so hard man 😂

[@TitanTankerGaming]

If this were a German or Soviet tank, bet gaijin would never move it from 5.7 (with or without the stab)

[@AFT_05G]

Actually Gaijin doesn’t give much of a shit about Soviet mid tier tanks too.T-34/85,T-44 and to a lesser extent IS-2 are overtiered.

[@TitanTankerGaming]

@@AFT_05G wdym, T-34/85 and IS-2 are perfectly as is, you want them to be 4.7 or something? Much like the undertiered KV-85? Lol good armor and mobility minus the reload, gotta balance it somehow. But it's honestly surprising how fair they treat Soviet mid tier tanks tbh, I thought IS-2 would be 5.0 by now due to its player's skill issues. The T-44 one, I somewhat agree to the lack of lineup but if there were then I wouldn't complain especially when it can fit perfectly fine with T-44-100 and the downtiered IS-3 at 7.0.. Again, assuming skill isn't the issue..

[@linussyren9221]

If only APHE / APCBC worked like it is supposed to instead of tactical nuke shells. Should be plenty of documents on that…. But that would nerf a ton of tanks that they don’t wanna rebalance. :/ I honestly thought T25 was still 5.7, Had no idea it have gone up.

[@smiles0946]

Love your Content and I would love to see you play the Waffenträger

[@MtnTiggr]

I can’t remember where I heard it, but they said the T25 in game is a mix of the pilot 1 and 2 with the looks of the pilot 2 and the stabilizer from the pilot 1

[@gengis_corn2937]

The panther mantlet moment was so real, sometimes a 76 will knife through it, and sometimes 90 heatfs with 400 mil pen does nothing

[@Rey-vm9it]

gaijin hates the american tree in general

[@MCSTRik3R]

Try 9.3 BR, its PREMIUM VS PREMIUM BATTLES. Share the pain with us.

[@mattbrown7935]

The ONE thing this has over the M36 is the reverse gear, and thats at 5.3 - 5.7, I want whatever gaijing is smoking

[@Kuschel_K]

Oh and the fact it doesn’t die the moment some HEATFS or HE lands anywhere near you. Or that your turret won’t get penetrated by everything in a hull down position 😄