GALAXY Z Fold 4: REMOVING THE SCREEN PROTECTOR!!!!!

[@WIHRC]

Part 2 and 3 have been released and should show near the end of the video and at the end of the video!!!!!!

[@cam23417]

I am having both of these issues, just barely a year old. I love my phone, but having to deal w the hinge issue is unacceptable for such an expensive phone. I will not get another fold or recommend it like I used to.

[@andreasalexandrou21]

I had the exact same problem 2 months ago. I decided to do the same things as you did and at first it was fine but after 2 weeks of having no screen protector the middle part of my fold started having a lot of scratches and now its neither pleasant nor fixable. I definitely do not recommend taking off the screen protector on your own, it is better getting it to samsung to replace your screen protector. Hope it helps!

[@WIHRC]

I appreciate the input. Luckily I haven't had any of the issues people mentioned after removing the screen protector.

[@mcnasty0322]

It's only a problem if you carry your fold in your pocket.

[@wil7sdni]

I tried to call samsung but unfortunately, in my city samsung has no available screen protector

[@SofiaSclafani]

@@mcnasty0322who’s not gonna carry their phone in their pocket 🤷‍♂️ literally everybody does

[@karendove3393]

I called Samsung. Had the protector changed twice! It still cane loose and bubbled. Today I removed it. Thanks for your video.

[@jordi4384]

Heat from a blow dryer needs to be applied for 4 min in all general directions at least 7 inches away from the screen inner screen and then proceed to remove the screen protector from the corner as the starting point using a plastic sheets corner and push inward until it comes off and then gently remove in a downward direction and same applies to the other 3 corners until the screen protector completely comes off.

[@Zero_316]

Thank you. You just spared me the expense of getting a new phone.

[@DukeOfParis]

Facts I thought my screen had problem😂😂😂 I'll pass on the fold 6

[@davidvarela9208]

I freaking looove my fold 4, I think that the engineers involved making this phone happen are genius and the best overall. I been using samsung since note 3, but samsung customer support is a nightmare :(

[@AkodoKusamoto]

I definitely want to see the follow-up. Everything I've heard is that there are no issues, but I'd love to see it firsthand. Cheers!

[@Danilo-qk2gw]

how long have you been using the Fold 4 now without the inner film? Mine has just completed one year of use and film is starting to get unstuck. I`m thinking about getting rid of it. I don`t use the S pen@@twinturboray

The screen cracks in the centter without a protector on it. Remove the original one when it's getting ugly or lifting of the screen and place one from Whitestone for example.

[@nac5000]

after 1 year mine started pealing just ordered one from amazon whitestone GEN and its like new now. 😊

[@sgpark2]

I feel vindicated because I too experienced both the hinge issue and now noticed the screen protector issue

[@thomasmeisch5692]

easy to remove and replace. Called Samsung 3 weeks ago and they sent me a free inner protector replacment in just 4 days.

[@AdilCivilian]

Out of warranty I am asked to pay 80 bucks.. was yours in warranty? Thanks.

[@thomasmeisch5692]

@AdilCivilian I'm not exactly sure what the warranty period is I purchased my phone August 2022 the day it came out. Call Samsung's support line through the members app a few months ago and they sent me a new inner protector I have since ordered one from Amazon for my wife's phone and it worked out just as well

[@albertiglesias5309]

thanks for the video. I removed the screen protector (zf4). have you noticed permanent rainbow lines in the inner crease? Mine has this problem and I'm trying to get ahold of samsung care+ Not sure if I should worry because functions of inner display aren't hampered...

[@sparky6757]

Sounds to me like micro fractures, if your screen protector is off and you're seeing that. To my understanding, it's nothing to worry about aside from the looks and trade in value - it isn't really a precursor to any worse damage, but it's not fixable either unless you want to replace the whole screen. If I were you, I'd just accept it and keep using it, it's not a *huge* deal and certainly not worth replacing the screen over when it costs as much as it does.

[@WIHRC]

I never noticed that happening to mine, but I hear you on getting Samsung care+ involved. If they can change it without any issues, that would be ideal.

[@DLW-i6q]

So its the plastic and it's petroulun based adhesive (and protector, since it's plastic is petro, fossil fueld) but the Ultra thin glass well, is still glass and that will continue to flex. Potentially freer sans protector but does the glass eventually split? I mean, were still talking about melted sand, inorganic so it's not trying to crack eventually with unprotected flexing? So many questions lol

[@1Mazen1]

that is exactly what happened to my fold 4 hinge issue and screen protector took it to Samsung last week and repaired both

[@familia1905]

How much did they charge you for the new screen protector?

[@scottbostic6247]

I had the same issue, twice with my fold 4. Had the phone replaced twice but they sent me a new fold 4 both times. After receiving them, I then sent my old phone back. All this at no charge. Now, I went through AT&T. With my 3rd phone, it too started separating in the crease. So I just removed it this time and it is awesome. Finally, very happy with it

[@WIHRC]

I share the same feeling. I might just remove it initially once I get my next fold.

[@osos231]

So, when you separate the screen protector that in my case its starting to bubble up and separate, what's behind it Is the actual touch screen obviously. But what about in the middle where it folks? Is there a chance of damaging middle portion without it?

[@scottbostic6247]

@osos231 I don't think so. Mine is still doing better than it ever has. You can always replace it with a new screen protector. I just chose not to for now.

[@osos231]

@scottbostic6247 OK, good to know. I actually thought this was a crucial part of the screen. Thanks for the info.

[@scottbostic6247]

@osos231 I did to until I started peeling it off. It actually is what caused the my first one to start acting up. When I opened it, it mostly stayed on whatever was on the screen and I couldn't change it. I would have removed it then but I too thought it was an important part of the fold.

[@johnstroll1]

Did your removal of the screen protector do anything at all for the hinge problem? Did you get a better bend radius? If so, was the resistance noticeable at all? Thank you.

[@WIHRC]

Unfortunately it didn't. At first I thought it did but I had the same issue.

[@matmie08]

I ignored mine for couple weeks then after than black dead screen started to show up until 90% of the screen turn black my guess is the moist trapped between the cover and screen so if you have it don't wait just go to a phone repair and replace it right away sadly mine needed to replace the whole lcd that cost 600-1000 Canadian If i could have seen this one earlier then i won't be having any non functional dead black inner screen, so please do this right away when something bubbled up at the middle of your screen could save you $$$

[@Tophadoodledoo]

This problem reared it's head on me last night. Hadn't opened it in a few days and did so yesterday to find the screen protector bubbled up and a thick black like down the display where the crease is. I have the device insured though, so hopefully I can get it fixed and keep it so until an upgrade is available to me. Definitely not going to stick with foldables unless I see the tech and materials improve some day.

[@matmie08]

@@Tophadoodledoo same im going back to S series

[@karimyasra8844]

Same happened with my Fold 4, first, the film bubbled then the screen did not respond I went to the Samsung center they changed the screen completely free but now after 1 year this film issue again started I don't know what I will do since I like this mobile

[@matmie08]

@@karimyasra8844 should probably switch back to s series and just get a tablet which I did 😂

[@Sabre912]

As an Apple user the foldables have always intrigued me.. I love the whole Phone turns into a tablet sort of thing and I understand the performance isnt as good as the s23 ultra. correct me if im wrong my apologies. I have seen videos of people worried about screen protection peeling and unfortunate actual screen peeling. or wearing out in the middle. How important is this Samsung screen protector ? are there 3rd party screen protectors for this phone? Im assuming no glass protectors ?

[@WIHRC]

Others might give you a different answer, but I would say, in my opinion, it's not important at all and in some ways enhances the experience of using a foldable. Samsung stated that it was afixed to the device to make it so that if the inner display shattered, the screen protector would catch the fragments. I made a recent update video about having the screen protector off for 74 days now and I haven't experienced anything that would alarm me after taking it off so I'd say it's not as important at all. I guess it does depend on how you treat your devices, though.

[@Sabre912]

@@WIHRC each and every phone goes into a case a minute after unboxing.. I take no chances with myself lol

[@Danilo-qk2gw]

@@WIHRC my friend, how about now? Any updates? Really curious! Best

[@WIHRC]

@Danilo-qk2gw ended up trading it for the Fold 5, but befit doing that, I had absolutely no problems with the Fold 4. The screen was still as perfect as when I had the screen protector on.

[@Danilo-qk2gw]

@@WIHRC awesome, thank you very much for replying!

[@osos231]

I finally peeled mine off. Between me calling Samsung Repair Center numerous amounts of times trying to have them reserve a protector which they wouldnt, AND, having them say to me " Oh, I wouldn't peel it off, you can ruin the screen", I had enough. I peeled it off, which wasn't a big deal at all. I'm much happier. No bubbles, no wrinkles and I won't run the chance of having a new protector bubble up again. Everytime, my phone fell, it has been in the closed position, so my habits don't warrant for an useless protector.

[@WIHRC]

Yeah all in all the process seems to be very overlooked. It's a bait and switch kind of deal if you ask me. You announced that you partnered with a well-known repair retailer but don't give them any stock to fulfill any orders. Then you have those out there that try to instill fear by saying you shouldn't take it off. The whole thing is a mess. Glad you removed it.

[@osos231]

@WIH_R_C Yeah, definitely a bait and switch crapshoot here. How does a well known repair center, I mean, well known around here doesn't ever have screen protectors for these phones. Unreal!

[@WIHRC]

If I had to give an answer. It's because Samsung’s words move faster than their actions. All in all, i just hope we to a get to a point where we don't need this screen protector.

[@Danilo-qk2gw]

how long have you been using the Fold 4 now without the inner film? Mine has just completed one year of use and film is starting to get unstuck. I`m thinking about getting rid of it. I don`t use the S pen

[@BenPorter904]

Removing that does it help the food to open more flat?

[@WIHRC]

Unfortunately it doesn't. Mine had a problem with the hinge and that's why it wouldn't lay flat but removing the protector wouldn't help if that's something that's already a problem.

[@JavonS83]

I had these exact same issues with the Fold 3 and 4. It always seems to happen after a year ownership. I replaced my 3 with a 4 when it happened before, but for my 4 I took it to a repair shop and got the screen protector exchanged. I still have the issue of the phone not unfolding flat all the way anymore like yours does. I'm curious if these issues were fixed with the Fold 5 or not?

[@WIHRC]

It's way past time that Samsung fixes or just omits the screen protectors all together. So far nothing has happened with the Fold 5 but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

[@waynefilkins8394]

what kind of s pen works with this? do you have to buy a special (likely expensive) one from samsung?

[@WIHRC]

I believe the older variant is about $40 dollars. Look for Fold edition S pen, and it should come up.

Don't use an S-Pen without a screennprotector

[@williamhumphreys3623]

Do you recommend getting the fold 4?? I was gonna wait for the fold 5 but they seem to be almost identical

[@WIHRC]

If you can get the fold 4 a decent price and don't mind having a generation older than what is going to eventually come, then I'd definitely say it's worth it. I've also been seeing some recent rumors that there may be a price like with the fold 5 and if Samsung's trade-in values for the S23 Ultra are anything to go off of then we may be seeing it be much harder to acquire Samsung's newer devices at a decent price. If I'm being honest and truthful, I'll most likely be getting the Fold 5 when I can, and when I see it being worth it but it'll mostly just be to create content for this channel.

[@Webrisernl]

Do you still recommend the fold 4?

[@WIHRC]

I definitely would. It's not a perfect phone, but it isn't bad either, even with this screen protector issue.

[@Akuaudi99]

Thx for the video. I've went through 2 z fold 4's. Can you please make a follow up. I'm on my 3rd fold now. Just waiting for the screen to pop up.

[@WIHRC]

Glad you enjoyed it. I've made 4 other videos on this (I think) they should be linked at the end of the video ....I think. If not I'll make sure they are soon

[@DanielLoeb-mr9rp]

This just started happening to my Fold 4 (maybe a year old?).....BUT the fold screen is "frozen" too. It won't accept any input on the touch screen. The front screen still works fine. Is this typically caused by a problem with the screen protector? Has anyone else experienced this? And would removing (or replacing) the screen protector fix this problem? Thanks in advance!

[@WIHRC]

Soo I'm not too sure if this is directly linked to the protector but the reason I removed the protector so carefully in the video is because I've always had the thought that the screen protector might mess with the integrity of the touch panel. In your case, I wonder if that's what happened. At this point, since it's not working, it might behoove you to remove it (As carefully as possible) and see whether it fixes it. If not, then I would definitely reach out to Samsung ASAP

[@johnnyrivera7299]

Thanks 4 the video really help me on getting a fold u think as much as this phones are samsung wood fix this problem it's not like it's 300$ well hope thay co.e out with a better phone

[@karlcimorelli5576]

My fold 4 is doing the same thing just like yours I was hesitant to take the screen protector off but it's driving me crazy looking at the screen but since you're video I think I'm going to take mine mine off also hopefully it won't mess anything else up. Thanks for your video I'll keep in touch to let you know how it's going

[@WIHRC]

Glad the video was helpful. Just peel it off very slowly and carefully. As long as your patient you should be good.

[@tonymeans7193]

Would very much like to hear any more you discover good or bad!

[@BuuTheGhost]

Mine got a weird black mark on the lower crease unfortunately so i took the protector off so it wont damage more

[@WIHRC]

Did that stop it from spreading completely?

[@BuuTheGhost]

@@WIHRC so far yes, before i took it off it looked like it was gonna go up more. been 24 hours and it hasn't gotten worse

[@WIHRC]

That's good to hear. I hope it didn't spread at all.

[@GodUchihaTempest]

My fold 4 has done this and i want too take it off as its killing me but im so scared too remove it incase it breaks

[@WIHRC]

It all comes down to how much it's lifted already. I think as long as you're super careful and patient, it'll be okay. The key is to really go as slow as possible.

[@Katorz-d2p]

Hey, I have had the same problems as you, hinge started to not open completely, and then the screen protector started to peel off from the top (all started about a week ago). You can actually use a small brush to clean the hinge and get the dust particules etc out of the hinge (they accumulate over time) and also use compressed air or blow into the cracks of the hinge and it will fix your problem. Just done it an hour ago and it opens all the way again now 😉. You will see that it it easier to do when the phone is almost folded all the way, it gives you extra room to clean it up. How is your experience so far after removing the screen protector ? Anyways, I hope my tip helps... i saw it online and it worked for me 😊. Greetings from France 🫡

[@WIHRC]

Definitely appreciate the tips. I actually had been doing this before, and I believe that a small piece of the brush I was using got stuck between the hinge. It does seem to have gotten a bit better, which is something I mentioned in the follow-up to this video. Honestly, the experience has been something that hasn't been as cumbersome as I thought it would be. I can't say that I noticed too much of a difference or at least not enough to alarm me.

[@MXKID34]

Link to where unpurchased the screen protector please

[@WIHRC]

There was never a new screen protector applied to the device.

[@zarrarahmed1346]

@@WIHRChow is the screen holding up now? Any issues or scratches?

[@garfieldgetsreal]

My fold 4 is starting to show signs of the screen protector falling off, I really hope I don't have to do this. But here's the thing about experimental tech, we have to understand these things can happen and can't really blame the manufacturers.

[@WIHRC]

That's unfortunate. Have you reached out to Samsung, or ubreakifix to find out if they have any screenprotectors in stock?

[@garfieldgetsreal]

​@WIH_R_C I'm waiting until I need to or when I have the time, because I can't send it in and be without it unless I have the opportunity to send it in.

[@WIHRC]

I hear you on that.

[@garfieldgetsreal]

@WIH_R_C so I tried today thinking I wouldn't need my phone (I did). I took it to get repaired after messaging support and asking telling them where to take it. I drop it off hours later, come back, and only for them to say they don't have the supplies to fix it. They wasted my time and money for gas because it was a bit of a drive to take it. Their phones are great, but their support team has never done good for me.

[@WIHRC]

That sounds extremely annoying. Their support really isn't coordinated in any way at all. Hoping they can actually make a suggestion on where you can get it fixed, but honestly, Samsungs customer service has been more miss than anything for years.

[@tellingtruehurts]

I had the same with the hinge, i work as contractor, so i though, its cuz of the dust of my job. But when i see online everybody working @office have the same problems.... I did go to samsung store, there the guy told me that i did it myself so i had to pay for the repair. The fold had sone scratches cuz i never use a case....but i kept fighting in the store, they said that the fold is more sensitive than the S series. I told them: i understand, but it is still a phone i can have an expetation that the phone should work without the hinge will broke without using a case..... And the only dust that came in was from my pockets.... In the end my lawyer wrote a letter to samsung for me. Because in the netherlands: u can expect that the product what u buy is solid..... So if samsung sell a phone and i use it like a phone.... Than the phone should be okay.... After my lawyer wrote the letter, samsung gave me a refurbished fold.

[@Dooglessgaming]

Ive been dealing with it for so long had fluff and crap between it i did not know it was a screen protector i thought it was the screen ripped that shit off and phones better then ever only found this vid because wasnt sure if i just tore my screen in half haha

[@lolakay9303]

I'm so disappointed in Samsung foldable devices quality😢 I have the same issues with fold 3. Have a rainbow effect less than in a month on flip 4. Let us know pls how the phone goes without a protective screen. I'm scared to pill mine off

[@WIHRC]

I no longer have the Fold 4, but up until I traded it in, it was perfectly fine. The key to removing the screen protector is to let it start to come off by itself, and then when it gets to a certain point, slowly and safely remove it. At least that's what I did, lol.

[@lolakay9303]

@WIHRC thank you so much! I watched all your vids about this experience, I'm so grateful to you for them. Thank you

[@WIHRC]

@lolakay9303 I'm glad that the information within them was helpful. Thanks for watching through them.

[@kevinhaake4669]

Mine has done it twice. They covered the first time. But said I would have to pay for the second time. Going on to look into getting a different type phone. Won't recommend a z fold to anyone.

[@WIHRC]

That's ridiculous since it's their issue.

[@barbarahedrick5209]

Thank you a young man at the cell place I have my cell said the screen could not be taken off it would ruin the cell thanks again bh

[@johnjmacc6977]

I'm on my 3rd fold gen4 now and have both problems now. Worse phone I've ever had but that's what I get for buying a phone that folds

[@WIHRC]

What happened to the other two?

[@waynefilkins8394]

I don't get why more people don't like these phones. IMO this is the most innovative thing since the early Iphones, or since smart phones came out. When you look at Apple they just keep coming out with the same phone over and over. I remember the iphone 6 was really cool, and iphone x, but other than that it's all the same with a slightly different cpu and camera. Z fold is innovation, and could be MUCH better tbh. They could literally make something like the note 20 or w/e that opens like the z fold. It wouldn't even be that much more expensive because it would basically be a note 20, but since it's twice as big you have twice the space for hardware, so it doesn't have to be all cramped into a tiny space, have the same type of hinge/screen as z fold has. Only thing making it more expensive is the hinge and having 2 big screens because outside screen would be basically the same as the note phones had or w/e. I feel like these companies can do so much more, but they are milking every little tiny upgrade because people just keep buying all these crap phones, upgrading from 1 phone to another of almost the same phone, so why innovate, ya know?

[@WIHRC]

It feels like the initial fear of change and resistance, which eventually leads to acceptance. The Fold series and foladables, in general, are certainly innovative and should be considered, but not everybody is quick to adopt what is new, which is understandable. Plus, the prices do need to come down a bit.

[@waynefilkins8394]

yeah the price is a bitch for sure. I think I caught like 3 deals at once or something, otherwise couldn't have got it @@WIHRC

[@noelyboy6969]

My screen protector is going the same way, and the hinge is not opening like it used to.

[@WIHRC]

That's unfortunate. Are you going to contact Samsung to look into getting a replacement?

[@waynefilkins8394]

you're being overly careful. I just pulled mine off. It started to come up in the middle along the seam, i just stuck my nail under it in the top middle, pulled that up over to the corner, and pulled it off lol.

[@WIHRC]

Just wanted to make sure not to damage the touch panel underneath the screen. Saw a teardown of the Fold and never realized it was soo thin.

[@theproduct456]

I just took mine off . I sent my flip 4 cause of the hinge didnt want to open all the way they just sent me a brand new flip 4 then i traded it in for the flip 5

[@ArmChairPlum]

Now that you mention it, I also noticed that my fold4 stopped opening 100% flat. The inner protector started to come unstuck from the top middle. Small at first and now as I type this, the entirety of the middle folding section with a touch of the area after. Since the middle has now unstuck though, it seems like it now opens flat again. It took approx 18 months for the issue to occur.

[@davidfinch9431]

Thank you very much!!!

Don't leave it without screenprotector. The screenprotector also does the surface tension thing. If you use your fold without an inner protector for too long there will be cracks in the center of the screen. 100%.

[@WIHRC]

Interesting. Still have to wonder what the exact trigger is. I'm not saying that this isn't what's happening, but I was able to use mine from the time I made this video up until November with no issues, while some others seem to have had various display issues.

[@retiredeyes]

Is the screen still super reflective without the screen protector?

[@WIHRC]

I'd say it's a bit less without out, but that's only if you pay attention to it as much.

[@bugbee8]

great video TY VM

[@WIHRC]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@daciac2007]

I was told it wasn't a warranty problem and i have to go through insurance and pay a $200 deductible

[@WIHRC]

That is downright BS on every single level I can think of. If anything I'd speak to a manager or something like that if you haven't already but if not and you don't mind going without the screen protector it can definitely be done.

[@ICEmegaman]

the protextor is coming off at the top of my screen and going deep down the middle! i think this will happen to every fold 4 phone :/ So every fold 4 owner will have to spend 40-50 usd every 1,5 year.

[@WIHRC]

Unfortunately that does seem like the case. I opted not to replace the screen protector at all because I was so annoyed with Samsung's process, but I was perfectly fine and had no issues with my device with the exception of the hinge. If anything it's best to have it replaced underneath the warranty since it's definitely a manufacturer's defect. Nobody should have to pay for this at all.

[@BensTechTube]

Uh-oh! Now your warranty is Void!!! JK! L0L! 0:52

[@rahimahmed9113]

Like your handwriting that u did with the s pen

[@XxXK9]

I know a guy that has this phone and his bubbled up so bad down the middle but he won’t take off the protector. So it makes and ugly ass plastic crunch sound when he opens his phone 😂 I will say that this phone is definitely something I want to get but I’ll wait like 4 years until my 14 pro max starts to slowdown and the foldable technology is better

[@WIHRC]

I know that crunch sound very well LOL. I can definitely understand why he'd be reluctant to take it off but doing this is actually enhanced the experience with this phone for the better at least in my opinion. And I definitely hear you on keeping what you have right now till it can't run anymore.

[@DangerousD117]

thank you mate you saved me 500 pounds

[@WIHRC]

Glad that the video was helpful to you and your wallet!!!

[@DangerousD117]

A video straight to the point thats what i like

[@stillmangal]

This is painful to watch

[@WIHRC]

Believe me it was just as painful to remove.

[@darrelldarrell1447]

Samsung repaired my hinge and afert 3 months it was doing it again. I cant stand it not being flat. Got a onepplus open and have not had any of the issues like i had on my fold 4. Fuck samsung garbage.

[@chris.murdock]

Ha e the same issues

[@WIHRC]

Have you replaced it?

[@willdoug6604]

i took mine off my Fold 5 and 0 issues

[@WIHRC]

Good to know. I'm just going to wait till mine comes off and then take it off but good to know that everything is fine.