Gale as always likes to mock me for being a warlock

[@rielzero]

It's kind of nice and interesting to see so many people still come to this 60 second video and post cute jokes and fun facts about DND :D It's fun to read the interactions. Please remember to be respectful to each other in the comments, we're all fantasy nerds! c: If you're interested in my character, I have been working on a fanwebcomic for months. Tumblr: www.tumblr.com/blog/ohnoestherestadpoles Webtoon canvas: www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/baldurs-gate-dont-say-inevitable/list?title_no=943455 PS. in case it wasn't clear: I actually really like Gale! I just love character drama and banter, so him unintentionally mocking my character actually strikes me as funny because my character has self-worth problems, lol. (warlocks and daddy issues... except he's got mommy issues.)

[@calveras86]

Bold words from someone in Eldritch blast range

[@rielzero]

He sure is in range hehehehe

[@bengunn9670]

Don't forget, that if you he is in eldritch blast radius, then you are in counterspell radius.

[@davidkoudelka10]

@@bengunn9670Yeah but Eldritch Blast is a cantrip that you can cast freely. Counterspell requires a spell slot.😈

[@bengunn9670]

@@davidkoudelka10 nothing is free in combat. You lose an action, and there's a Chain Lightning coming your way.

[@lordvalinar774]

@@bengunn9670 Hah you assume a wizard could survive over a dozen eldritch blasts fully powered to the max via extra damage attached gear. He wouldn't have the chance to cast Chain Lightning, and would only get 1 counterspell XD

[@thomash8408]

I mean, I think he makes a good point even if it’s a subtle mocking comment. Making a deal with a being of insurmountable power in exchange for an unfair contract to power isn’t the smartest idea. I mean, you literally make a deal with either a demon, Cthulhu, or the archfey, which is as fickle as the average fairy.

[@simonandsimbagaming]

Is the Great Old One necessarily aware of a warlock drawing on them?

[@thomash8408]

@@simonandsimbagaming probably. The great old one category description implies you don’t know who you are in a contract with due to being unable to comprehend it’s true form, but it doesn’t state that the great old one isn’t aware of the contract.

[@MBOmnis]

And they give you a pittance of power that barely makes a difference

[@lordsoybo6727]

@@simonandsimbagaming Base 5e? Often no the great old one isn't aware - ("Great Old One might be unaware of your existence or entirely indifferent to you, but the secrets you have learned allow you to draw your magic from it" - From the player's handbook). But in BG3 there are several dialogue lines (for great old one specifically) that imply, or outright state, that your great old one patron is aware and paying attention to you.

[@matiasluukkanen7718]

Only archfey can be somewhat reasonable, if it is your ancestor as an elf. Though at that point you are dealing with helicopter grandparent.

[@Sharkshaman]

Bold words of someone who can't climb out of their own portal

[@nw2387]

lol okay pal *casts 14 bolts of eldritch blast in 1 turn*

[@rielzero]

hehe this comment made me chuckle

[@LeonardoGolden]

Let me cook.... Go 4 levels into Warlock, 3 levels into Sorcerer, 2 levels into Fighter, and 3 levels into Thief Rogue. So a level 12 character. Equipment: Get the Helmet of Grit, which gives you an additional bonus action if you're half HP or less. Get the Quickspell Gloves, which allow you to cast a cantrip that costs an action with a bonus action, once per short rest. Prerequisites: Get Eldritch Blast as a cantrip. Make sure to get Metamagic: Quickened Spell when you reach level 3 Sorcerer. Preparation: Convert your spell slots into Sorcery Points, until you have a total of 6 Sorcery Points. Get hasted so that you have an additional action. Get yourself to 50% or less HP to get an additional bonus action from Grit, from the Gelmet of Grit. Combat: Take your action to cast Eldritch Blast. (Total Bolts: 3) Take your hastened action to cast Eldritch Blast. (Total Bolts: 6) Use your Fighter class action Action Surge, gain an additional action, and use that action to cast Eldritch Blast. (Total Bolts: 9) Use the passive Quickspell Flinger that you got from the Quickspell Gloves to cast Eldritch Blast as a bonus action. (Total Bolts: 12) Use Metamagic: Quickened Spell, using 3 Sorcery Points, to cast Eldritch Blast as a bonus action. (Total Bolts: 15) Use Metamagic: Quickened Spell again, using 3 Sorcery Points, to cast Eldritch Blast as a bonus action. (Total Bolts: 18) This is just me theorycrafting; I haven't tried this in practice. I apologize if this is misinformation, and I welcome any and all corrections.

[@mackxzs]

@@LeonardoGolden It's not optimal for an EB spamming Sorlock, you'd be better off just stacking crits and spell attack roll bonuses. But that's still damn fun to play

[@blacksage2375]

A wizard masters magic through arduous professional study. A sorcerer masters magic through natural talent and sheer force. A warlock gave some eldritch nob a quickie behind the magic shop to get pumped full of magic.

[@namleist]

nerds, nepobabies and sugarbabies

[@pilot3605]

Warlocks took the deal, Wizards studied the tome.... Sorcerers just do it

[@AdderMoray]

Bards play it by ear.

[@XANDERcanDRAW]

Cleric, just a simp.

[@ДмитрийОсипов-м9д]

@@XANDERcanDRAW Paladin - a chad who swore an oath so hard that it gives them magic powers

[@elbrachoxddd5883]

He always says something of the likes if you are a magic based class (sorcerer, wizard, warlock, cleric, etc.).

[@rielzero]

I am aware lol

[@dianabarnett6886]

What about Bard? They are technically magic.

[@elbrachoxddd5883]

@@dianabarnett6886 I dunno, never tried it before

[@Nefhith1337]

Yep, and as a Sorcerer, you can just throw it back at him all like "i am magic incarnate, NERD!"

[@MMORPGFreaky]

paladin too

[@keeperkai999]

basically it's his way of saying "boi, you are not ready", in the field of magic.

[@altsadhara]

It taking arduous study is just one of many paths. Sorcerers, in particular, have the grace to be literally born into it

[@Jmcinally94]

Wizards always gotta look down a little bit on other casters, purely because they put the work in and others didn't have to 😂😂😂😂

[@Ecroose]

Oooooh i ReaD BOoks aNd praCticEd pRonUnciation. Oooooooohhh loOk hOw SPeCial i aM.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

​@@Jmcinally94 They don't know what I had to do to get my warlock contract. ... ... Please don't look at my (archdemon) BF...

[@ruriva4931]

Sorcerer, especially the wild magic sorcerer, deserve respect being burn with uncontrolled magic and becoming a proper sorcerer is a very volatile process

[@altsadhara]

@thunderdrae7749 I think we can all see that if anyone is working hard for their magical power, it's definitely the artificer. Not only do they have to study relentlessly, but they also _have_ to take up craftskills to be able to harness their magic fully. Not that magic has to be an easy journey for any class, though. A sorcerer could struggle to control this power they never asked for that could tear them apart if misused. A warlock may have made a deal they'd never wish on even their worst enemy. A bard may have had no natural talent for the arts but possess an unrivalled passion. A druid may have been forced into the wild to fend for themself and barely managed to survive long enough to receive their blessing. A cleric may have seen countless deaths of people they couldn't help before they finally found a light leading them out of their own dark thoughts. And the reverse is also true, a wizard could have been born with a prodigious memory, even eidetic, and never needed to seriously study. An artificer could be a character that can recreate anything if they see how it works, like the trope in series of the martial artists that can perfectly repeat any technique they've seen. An aspect of D&D's beauty is being able to make any of these characters, then figure out on your own how you'd like to express their past, current journey, and eventual growth.

[@RogueCrocodile]

I mock him for being a wizard as a sorcerer

[@calvintyler9281]

Literally nothing you say and that includes using the fact he has a bomb in his chest against him will beat him saying that you're a slave with a really long leash who was to lazy to learn actual magic.

[@kahedakylar]

gale: "good argument but i have a bomb"

[@darkmetal2412]

Me as a Sorcerer: Skill issues both of you

[@NA-nz9lv]

then you talk to him as a sorcerer and tell him how you're better than him because you didn't need to study to be good at magic.

[@brandonwilliams4050]

Interesting, I never thought of it as a mocking comment as much as it was just objectively stating the factual differences between your magic types. The way I look at it is like this---while yes, there is obviously some level of dealing with an outside force/entity, a Wizard's power is attained through hard work, study and intelligence. They have a firm and deliberate grasp of what they are doing. A Warlock's powers are basically handed to them as part of their deal with their patron. There's little to no skill involved or intelligence needed---the knowledge just flows into them and they use it. Look at Wyll, basically a warrior but with magical add ons. My player character is similar; she's no career magic user. She's a smooth talking con artist who wouldn't know the ins and outs of even the simplest magic if not for having the knowledge given through her deal with a powerful devil. So I can see why Gale said it, although again I didn't see it as mockery, but facts and maybe even some acknowledging of you as a valid magic user in your own way.

[@AdderMoray]

Meanwhile he doesn't acknowledge Bards at all as casters, despite the fact that they, too, learn their magic through study and practice. Just a different kind.

[@neophyteredglare961]

​@@AdderMoray They actually can have friends while studying so hes salty about that XD

[@kainepeterson6638]

*Laughs in sorcerer* you nerds gotta study, I’m LITERALLY just Magic

[@GK-dw1fo]

Oh oh okay Gale, offending my warlock durge okay. let me just start a new playthrough real quick, you won't miss that hand if it's all about focus, somatic and verbal components, right mystra's bishboi?

[@thehippie3610]

Talk to him as a sorcerer and it's even funnier

[@NivRel]

jokes on him, my headcanon backstory includes my character beeing more like a friend with the archfey than anything, like there's no trick or lifelong bullshit, just "hey powerfull dude, wanna see the equivalent of a good tv series? gimme some powers and i'll show u", alongside with generally beeing someone who seeks uncompromised power

[@TylerYoshi]

He says pretty much the same thing to paladins, as well.

[@foraminuteforaminute4056]

And Clerics.

[@grondhero]

I mean, if you're a warlock, it's deserved. Would you call it a... *_vicious mockery?_*

[@rielzero]

Jokes on him, I have pact of the tome!

[@snakept69]

Lore wise Warlocks are the get rich quick scheme of spellcasting. Gameplay they level at the same pace but in lore a LVL 1 character being promoted instantly 5 levels in Warlock, even replacing some previous levels is Lore accurate. Heck Wyll did this in his backstory fighting the cultists. How much power you recieve depends on the pact and your own potential of course. So Gale is correct. Even genius level wizards need time, study, work and talent. A Warlock needs to say yes.

[@TheGodlikeDragon]

Its ok, Sorcerers gets lots of lines to mock wizards with

[@MoonsongReverb]

Yeah, it’s quite natural in D&D, that sorcerers and warlocks are for wizards just cheaters, 😂 While they have to study for years, you shake the magic from your sleeve. And get used to it, romancing Gale as a sorcerer or warlock, you get a lot of comments, that have an undertone of “You’re magic, but no good magic “ I found it way more relaxed and harmonious to romance him with other classes. But he always had cute ladies ❤

[@amandadiamond7147]

I'm sorry, who pulled who out the swirling unstable magical vortex? Who's helping you get magic items for the magic death bomb in your chest? All because your plan to get magic Mommy's attention backfired spectacularly?! Don't act like you're better than me just because you bumped uglies with Mystra! (My Tav is an Archfey pact warlock, she doesn't put up with any disrespect) Gods damn there needs to be an option to tell Gale to shove it.

[@rielzero]

pretty much hehe

[@magicman25103]

play a sorcerer next time around and you'll get to mock him just as often.

[@purpledevilr7463]

My Abjuration Wizard-Warlock very much enjoys it.

[@Venmullriik]

I have done this interaction with gale as a paladin and cleric i didn't even realize he was low key insulting me for my tavs lack of being a non sorcerer

[@Nuggetmonk]

the fact all these little nods to player are sprinkled through out the game is just nuts

[@rielzero]

it certainly helps with immersion!

[@josedarocha2949]

A Mage have to study hard for years to cast a fire magic, a Warlock just met a strange shady dude on the crossroad and is spaming Eldrich blasts everywhere, Doesent seems Fair, does it?

[@chaosreigner869]

What the heck was this in response to? I have not encountered this interaction before.

[@rielzero]

after gale shows you his magic trick, this is the morning after, prompted by a dialogue selection.

[@gabrielrussell5531]

Fun fact: According to the PHB, 5E Warlocks aren't "Clerics to middle-management" as they're presented in BG3, but rather are "Wizards with weird teachers" and as such need a comparable understanding of magic. This is because they were planned to be Int-based but were changed at the last-minute in the laziest most search-replace fashion possible to appease 3Xers. Taking advice on game-design from someone who likes 3rd edition is like taking medical advice from an anti-vaxxer.

[@rielzero]

i thought you'd need to be charismatic to make a deal with a being of power? They wouldn't just give it out willy nilly, then there would probably more powerful warlocks out there. In any case, I always pick arcana profiency in the game.

[@ologracz1110]

While the idea of casting magic based on charisma is retarded as hell to me, warlock is the only situation when I find it plausible - the more you impress your patron, the more power they give you, hence charisma. Try to explain how you create fire out of your hand based on how well you speak because your grandfather was a dragon.

[@NA-nz9lv]

@@ologracz1110 I think charisma entails more than just being good at speaking with others. For paladins it's their conviction in their oath, for bards the "soul" in their exhibition of magic through instrument, song etc... and for sorcerers I always interpreted it as how "connected" you are to your lineage. I still think constitution is a much better stat for spellcasting when talking about sorcerers but the other two are fine for me. Warlocks casting with charisma instead of wisdom or intelligence is kinda dumb to me though. Like.. yeah sure, your patron COULD be granting you abilities based on how well you convince them but that's not really always the case, most warlocks are just people that made a deal with an entity to gain power, a much better way would be if warlocks had a choice to make on where they draw their abilities from and that also decides what stat they use when spellcasting (for example a warlock that studied a lot and made a deal with an entity to gain more power could still be INT-based while a warlock that doesn't know shit but is really good at speaking or trusts in the power of their patron a lot could still be CHA-based or even WIS-based).

[@Nefhith1337]

@@ologracz1110 In D&D charisma isn't just rizz, it is supposed to represent your willpower and capability to influence your surroundings

[@matenzo]

​@Nefhith1337 I always thought charisma more or less also boosts your general creativity. So that would make it a pretty versatile stat. Lore-wise I'm not bothered by any of this.

[@chanelleg123]

Your Tav is gorgeous 😍

[@rielzero]

awh thanks!! You can see more of him on my tumblr: rielzero :D

[@temperspace]

I feel warlock should've a had thing like oathbreaker paladin where your patron made you do things it or it gave you a small mini game not unlike divination wizard

[@rielzero]

imo that would've taken away some more roleplaying potential, esp if players have something incredibly specific in mind with their patrons. the oathbreaker knight is a neutral entity, and not the players patron, therefore paladins have more freedom to roleplay around their oath and characters reason for the oath. My tav has a patron that would likely not be properly represented in limited options, which is why I do quite enjoy when it gives me unique dialogue options for great old one on some occasions, because its left open to interpretation.

[@rustyjones7908]

This is off-topic, but I think it's a good touch that NPC priests of vlaakith are warlocks with the Undead patron instead of clerics, a subtle nod to her actual status.

[@rielzero]

i love that

[@cameronorr667]

He says something similar if you're a sorcerer

[@gloryshadow8710]

Who does Gale NOT mock... I mean he is quite haughty..

[@AdderMoray]

He doesn't respect you as a mage at all when you're a bard, even though you're a full caster.

[@Eclipse_721]

That doesn't sound like mockery to me