Dragons Age The Veilguard: All Solas Banter With Veilguard Companions

[@teriyaki_chick]

for those wondering, what Solas said to Davrin basically translates to “your honor humbles my pride”. he’s essentially saying that Davrin’s duty to his fellow elves as well as the world at large is honorable, and Solas envies it.

[@BearKookieKusu]

that's awesome, thank you

[@wordyblerd7723]

Thank you!

[@Hidalgoes]

ARE YOU AN ELF WTF?????

[@teriyaki_chick]

@@Hidalgoes yes.

[@xDittoWaffuru]

Lol Taash. Bet he’s having flashbacks of Sera

[@Graniteheart]

and Rainier

[@BearKookieKusu]

makes me nostalgic for inquisition again. I believe he'd be really good friends with Emmrich and Bellara

[@fuzzysocks229]

Omg I miss her & her banter so much 😢❤

[@blazypika2]

​@@BearKookieKusu if he wasn't the enemy i can easily see that.

[@burnedpotatoes720]

Blackwall and Bull too. Can't forget their shared question if you can bang someone in the Fade.

[@thoughtsappear]

Bellara: I have a lot of questions. Number one, how dare you?

[@debishvebishwish4839]

Neve 🤝 Harding Professional Solas hater

[@jdovaj0746]

They just like me fr

[@robin9759]

Neve and Harding are haters and I love them for it

[@user-fr9wg9ft3p]

Harding standing up for my Inquisitor, love to see it.

[@sinizade]

"How come you didn't make yourself taller? Or with hair? Had you not heard of hair?" Flashbacks of Sera and Blackwall flood Solas' mind.

[@BearKookieKusu]

Lmao thing is Solas DID have hair as we saw in the memories. But poor guy is dealing with elderly baldness 🥲

[@debishvebishwish4839]

@@BearKookieKusu he can’t even pick a human without balding genes as a reference, no wonder he hates his mortal body 🤣🤣

[@burnedpotatoes720]

"Oh for- really?!"

[@maiafay]

I think the ritual to seal the gods made him lose his hair. He was diminished afterward to the point he had to enter a healing sleep for a couple thousand years. I’m sure that was a side effect, like humans having such a shock their hair turns white. Same concept.

[@callumreilly9107]

Solas is such a good and clear depiction of Wisdom that has turned to Pride. Sure he knows a lot and has a lot of insight, but he also believes that this makes him the essentially the chosen one and only he can save the world.

[@Mr-Rinn]

It made me think about that Spirit friend of his we try to save in Inquisition. It occurred to me she probably reminded him of who he once was.

[@x_rhi_x2772]

@@Mr-Rinn yes, and it was also a spirit of wisdom

[@renanferreira3314]

A god complex. Fitting.

[@callumreilly9107]

@@Mr-Rinn Yes! I agree wholeheartedly. In fact, likely the only thing that kept Solas from that fate (becoming a pride demon) is that he made a lyrium body before he went against his nature

[@BlackSwordMeister]

Reminds me of what a hardened Alistair says about Anora. "People like them (Anora, Loghain, Solas) think they and only they can fix everything and that everyone else should just get out of the way."

[@pokefan213]

Spite being protective over Rook has made my damn day~ "And you. Hurt. Rook. You Lie." he said that possessively, angrily. Protectively. Spite is Good Boy

[@Kimberliearcher]

The fact that Solas called him Spirit of determination has shown he's the opposite of Justice, while Anders twist it, Rook and Lucanis somehow did the other way around

[@Phantom19913]

@@KimberliearcherI don’t think Anders twisted Justice that was more on Meredith for her oppression of mages and the city.

[@callumreilly9107]

@@KimberliearcherAnders didn’t twist Justice. Justice got firsthand insight into the plight of mages through Anders’ perspective and became Vengeance over it.

[@Kimberliearcher]

@@callumreilly9107 @Phantom19913 I agree with Mr. Phantom more, but I totally believe yes, the reason is Meredith oppressing, but Anders, by letting his emotion go wild and do not take control over Justice , still having the blame of blowing up Kirkwall Chantry, his emotion over the mage oppression totally twist Justice.

[@callumreilly9107]

@@Kimberliearcher Yeah I definitely agree. I think that a key difference between Anders/Vengeance and Lucanis/Spite is that the former relationship was more baseed on shared desires. Lucanis is not immature or wanton, but Anders is incredibly angry about the plight of mages and does want to do something about it.

[@VesperOfRoses]

Harding gagged him lmao

[@Lc-Anders]

Nah Harding went in on him and I didn’t want her to stop

[@favlilnap]

One look at Taash and Sera would be all over the moon

[@BelieveIt1051]

Nope. Sera is only into women, remember?

[@favlilnap]

@BelieveIt1051 yeah but sera doesn't know

[@natg4984]

@@BelieveIt1051 some lesbians do date nonbinary individuals. it all depends on the person.

[@lisdraconis2212]

@@BelieveIt1051 Maybe just physically

[@scarocci7333]

@@BelieveIt1051 Taash may is non binary but she definitely has a woman body.

[@feinriche]

So a demon of spite is a spirit of determination corrupted. Yeah, makes sense, using spite as a motivation can sometimes lead to your goal, lol

[@TheMysteriouswatcher]

It's basically fuck you energy lmao

[@andreagrussu6778]

It's very interesting. Just as seeing as Wisdom can turn into Pride when, from the high throne of his knowledge, it convinces itself to know better than anyone else Also, I am convinced that Ghilan'nain could have been Creativity or Curiosity who became Obsession, while Elgar'Nan could have been Order or Bravery who became Tyranny

[@Hammer2k11]

Depending on your choices it says "Demon of Defiance" when you hover over his Veilguard skill once it's unlocked. So Spite definitely changes for the better over the course of the game. Defiance is still ambiguous, but it's something that can be good or bad depending on circumstances.

[@andreagrussu6778]

@Hammer2k11 that is very good. It shows that not every spirit possession turns out like Anders and Justice

[@chrisw1693]

Wynn was the first example of an “abomination” and their host coexisting peacefully. Well…other than Mythal and Flemeth. Though this does call into question what Flemeth said, “A soul is not forced upon the unwilling”

[@125Dave8]

These are some of the best lines in the whole game. Davrin, Neve, and Harding wiped the floor with him. Poor egg didn’t know what hit him.

[@ninethreefivesix]

This is the most bite companions had all game. Wish we had more of this.

[@scarocci7333]

Same for Rook. Rook is usually very nice, a bit too much, but they also have some brutal lines for Solas and can transform into a pure hater seething and raging on Solas even unprompted in a conversation with no relation to it, it's frankly hilarious.

[@hannahhobnob20]

These are so good, gutted i missed the oppportunity. I loved Hardings, shes got our girls back. Also Spite defending Rook, as soon as Solas mentioned he could seperate them i went all protective mode on them

[@BearKookieKusu]

I love how protective spite is over our Rook :)

[@STEVEYTHEEXEEVEE]

i dread to think what you consider peak entertainment if you think veilguard is "so good"

[@Husker_XIII]

​@@STEVEYTHEEXEEVEEDude get off your soapbox and let people enjoy what they like. The only thing you're doing is making an ass of yourself.

[@Kimberliearcher]

​@@STEVEYTHEEXEEVEEveilguard writing is not good, but I like the banters

[@danielxz2084]

​@@STEVEYTHEEXEEVEEI mean, do you find entertaining watching videos of a game that doesn't entertain you?? That would be sad tbh. People that come here usually find it entertaining, what a shocker you found one...

[@woam3360]

I LIVE for Emmrich being sassy at Solas...

[@Mr-Rinn]

If he saves Manfred instead they totally hit it off and make me want to hear them talk more. 😄

[@elfbotanist]

Harding and Neve? THOSE ARE MY GIRLS LESGOOOOO

[@joemachado33]

Good boy, Spite.

[@_Asvaria]

The spirit of Sera came and posessed Taash to give Solas flashbacks of his bad time with her 😂 I love the roasting from Lace (also her being a bit angry on him for breaking her friend’s heart) and Spite being this angry and a bit silly buddy but why do I feel in different circumstances Solas and Emmrich would be best buddies?

[@x_rhi_x2772]

Because they have similar philosophies on spirits etc., are both full of wisdom, well read, charming...

[@shaythemoonchild431]

Solas is right about one thing, Rook created an amazing team. Despite his manipulations, despite his blood magic, despite his betrayal, despite all his murders, sins and crimes; Rook’ team will always have her back. They all gave hm nothing but the smoke and I live for it. After all the pain he put The Inquisitor and Rook through, it’s about time someone finally told him his pain doesn’t amount to all the others he has caused.

[@andreagrussu6778]

And he doesn't deserve anything more than what he's got. I love him as a character, so well thought out and executed to perfection, but as a person? He deserves more than a few broken bones! He locked himself in his own grief and pride, to the point he killed friends who trusted him followed him for centuries like Felassan because they refused to go along with his madness and manipulated and betrayed people like the Inquisitor and Rook, who had to risk their lives to fix the mess HE made because he did not want to search for another way. He even killed the one he loved first! He destroyed a world once already, he saw what horrors that brought, and yet he was ready to do it again to bring back a time and a kingdom that simply are not meant to be. And also, they fact that the sufferings of the Hero of Ferelden, of Hawke, of the Inquisitor, of Rook and all of their friends and possibly many of their deaths were a conseguence of his love-sick short-sightedness makes it all worse. Although, on this, Mythal deserves to be blamed as much and even more than him.

[@Kimberliearcher]

Since Rook can be anyone, using pronoun they seems fit for a lot if reasons

[@nyamay3813]

To the very heart ❤😢

[@tami3456]

Amazing team is an overstatement

[@JessicaRoseTV]

harding read him to filth 🤣🤣

[@DDragon1226]

Solas having flashback of Sera and Blackwall as well as Dorian and Vivienne 😆😆😆 imagine you're a millenia old being that gets trolled by mortals that didn't even measure up to a 10th of your lifetime lol 🤣🤣🤣 that hesitation before his second "yes" was gold like "oh boy here it goes again..."

[@chrisw1693]

So Spite’s original nature is Determination, makes sense for an Assassin to have 😂

[@anandacomn7358]

NEVE SLAYED SO MUCH

[@austintipton8864]

The Harding x Solas dialogue hits SO hard 😭

[@Lithiel]

Two spirits who fell for mortals. Spite loves Rook~ (in romanced version) The same way Solas is Wisdom, and fell for the Inquisiter. Spite made it clear it’s got daggers for the one who hurt them~ they are so precious!

[@Vanaathiel]

Man I do wish they wrote more for that, it would be so interesting to explore the whole Spite thing

[@pikajulie_art]

*sees Harding in the clip* ah. (two playthroughs in...I cannot do that to my half bird, half cat kid T_T)

[@grymmoire]

Same, Assan is my feather baby so I will always choose Harding to lead the second team 😢

[@KollbjornYT]

Neve Gallus shutting Solas up and Harding going off is AWESOME!

[@nerokun7787]

He does really like getting in situations ppl get rightfully mad at him, does he want to hear it? Does he want to externalize it? or does he want to confirm others are smart enough to know he is wrong?

[@debishvebishwish4839]

I just knew that Neve was fuming when Solas suddenly wanna talk to her 😂😂

[@burnedpotatoes720]

He's like a criminal talking to his victims, hoping to get some good reception or something that will make him feel good at himself or smth.

[@ninethreefivesix]

@@burnedpotatoes720 It's so gross the more you think about it. He's such a horrible person.

[@nerokun7787]

@@ninethreefivesix ew to you

[@NovaG0]

If only we could actually have these conversations with Solas ourselves throughout the game or more scenes with the inquisitor or even other og characters asking him these

[@moonpower8]

Harding had a LIST of things to roast Solas for, dang! And he actually sounded kinda remorseful when she was done laying into him?

[@aliciaaz2356]

I mean, if you get to a point in life that Lace Harding reads your entire existence for filth, you have to acknowledge that you're at rock bottom....

[@hajde8128]

Taash taking the piss at Solas is so funny

[@LiaraGaming]

His dialogue with Emmrich is kinder if he's not a lich.

[@shinyaltaria7435]

Neve and Spite being absolute savages was not on my bingo list, but I am here for it.

[@sonnenblumefrau2048]

Huh. Didn't even realize there was banter with him. Need to remember on my second playthrough.

[@arochkin2628]

lol Of all the companions, only Harding was crying. Who would doubt it.

[@ninethreefivesix]

He gave Vivienne so much shit in Inquisition, but she was right about him and magic in general the whole time.

[@burnedpotatoes720]

Never underestimate someone who lives and thrives to a deadly game where appearances and power are paramount. Vivienne already knows since day one that Solas can't be trusted. Same goes with Blackwall (pre-Revelations).

[@roanc3709]

There’s a banter with Vivienne where she says he sounds like a pride demon

[@azureheart2846]

Ehh. I’m still giver her shit. I hate how I can’t talk back to her when I can do the same to everyone else on the exact same subject

[@krasmasov6852]

She was right about him, not about magic in general.

[@Yokopalu]

how love how the just rip into him.

[@melisse1234]

Oh Harding was waiting

[@x_rhi_x2772]

Ah taash, were you not on the missions in solas' memory...he did give himself hair lol

[@AsamiSaika]

If there’s not dragons involved, they’re not paying attention. Alternatively, Taash just wanted to bully Solas which is fair 😂.

[@16Vagabond]

Oh, thanks for this! I completely missed it

[@samanthanew632]

Does anyone know what the elven means he says to Davrin? I got "you sacrifice my humility" if I directly translated word for word via the wiki but that doesn't really seem to make any sense? Or does it?

[@bunniewood]

"Your dedication/duty humbles me"

[@lyayeyo]

It could also mean "I am humbled by your sacrifice" bc he's a grey warden

[@kkobsessed1994]

Stabbing someone so deeply??? Solas that didn't look like a damn accident to me!!! 🔥🔥🔥🗡️

[@Luke-ky5ed]

What if emmrich volkarin wasn’t a lich?

[@LolaShepard]

Solas approves of saving Manfred instead of lecturing his lichdom

[@christinewolfe5304]

He says the spirits talk about how he sacrificed his chance at immortality to save one of their own, Emmrich replies that the spirits he's talked to have always been positive of the Dread Wolf, and now he knows why.

[@HinataElyonToph]

@@christinewolfe5304 aww that’s actually kind of sweet. Headcanon they just become buddies and just hang out and be nerdy peepaws together

[@RoxN7]

You tell him davrin. Actually, everyone tell him. He sucks lol

[@sophiefrankis9476]

Love everyone calls Solas out.

[@pokefan213]

wait i just noticed Solas talking to Lich Emmerich- does he not talk to Emmerich if we don't choose to let him be a lich and save Manfred instead?

[@MT-tj7tb]

he does. starts out friendlier but the last two lines are the same. solas: professor emmrich volkarin of the mourn watch. the spirits speak well of you. the man who gave up immortality for a spirit of curiosity. emmrich: the spirits also speak well of the dread wolf, which always surprised me... until we learned that you are a manifested spirit. solas: so is elgar'nan, but the spirits do not speak well of him. emmrich: manifestations of tyranny rarely gather willing allies. solas: were matters not pressing, it would be a privilege to speak with you further, professor emmrich: if you're willing, i must admit: there are questions the watchers have long desired answers to

[@copyk4371]

I've only done the one run of veilguard yet but I had Emmerich save manfred so the Solas interaction is different that's so interesting! Like I figured it might be but still neat to see it! In the non-lich interaction it's alot more respectful to meet each other on both sides because Emmerich saved a spirit and stuff tho there is still a little bit of sass. The lich vs spirit straight up sass between the two of them here tho is hilarious.

[@o0Inochi0o]

This makes me so mad that Harding AND Neve weren't an option for me at this point. I'm pretty sure the last time he got roasted this hard was by Dorian and Vivienne.

[@gabrielledickinson4530]

1:23 Damn I love Neve so much for this. She just said what I've been saying since playing the finale.

[@uhlaracroft8225]

Harding and Neve have the best here specially Harding she roasts solas so much every inch of it he deserved and then some Harding spoke from the hearts of us all and especially us poor solas/levellan fans who got romanced and betrayed by him for which we forgive him and all we want is for him to stop. And for Killing Varric solas u could of so easily knocked him aside but no lets stab him with not just any dagger a Lyrium dagger that will mean certain death once it touches his blood.

[@xanaccent]

Neve ANNIHILATED him.

[@prffandever884]

Ouch. Remind me not to get on Harding or Neve’s bad side.

[@Allaiya.]

Taash has some funny lines sometimes lol

[@solaranceshiro1643]

Wait, you’re missing Emmrich’s mortal form banter with Solas 😂 but it’s not that much difference lol.. the back part is about the same.. just the front part changed a bit. Rather than judging his lich form, he praised Emmrich for sacrificing his lichdom for another spirit and mentioning spirits said good things about Emmrich ☺️

[@BearKookieKusu]

Yes I know 🥲 and there’s probably a different dialogue if I didn’t do Bellaras veilguard quest but this would require me going way farther back in a save 😅😅 but I get the feeling that the Lich dialogue is not that much different

[@solaranceshiro1643]

@@BearKookieKusu hey no worries, it’s great enough you got most of it XD

[@krasmasov6852]

Taash asking the real questions lmao

[@jalenbobo668]

Thank you Harding and neve for calling him out for everything he’s done

[@Allaiya.]

He didn’t talk in mine 😢

[@aliciaaz2356]

If I'm being honest, Taash was not my favorite character by any means in this game, but them just casually roasting the everloving hell out of Solas like that was comedy gold. Taash, they could never make me hate you, lmao

[@grymmoire]

Dang, I had Davrin and Emmerich and he didn’t say anything to them

[@phuhyaileetiklongprachum4693]

Good job taash!😂

[@YourLocalCryptid164]

Im pretty sure a Non-Lich Emmrich has slightly different dialogue. He and Solas were less.... antagonistic with each other when I played and the only difference I can think of was the fact Emmrich wasn't a Lich in my game. (I know it's his life's goals but Manfred is my son)

[@sanddanglotka]

Why are they so mean to my boyyyy??? 😢 (I know why but I'm still a sucker for this f**ker :)))

[@FalseKings]

Does anyone knows if the banter with Lucanis is different if he is willing to separate from Spite? (If you saved Minrathous instead of Treviso)

[@k.j.franklin4658]

It would’ve been interesting to see Lucanis(Spite) and Anders(Justice) interact with one another. Do you think they’d getting along or bicker ?

[@RandomWandrer]

Haha. He deserved the roasting. I was actually offered the best ending (the option to persuade him to stop). But after trying to trap Rook in the fade, and learning that he murdered Verric, and blood-magicd Rook, and is still trying to bloody tear down the veil... Rook was like "screw being nice, and screw tricks, im gonna kick your slippery behind and blood magic YOU!"

[@Kate-ms2mn]

i couldn't do that to Lavellen haha

[@debishvebishwish4839]

True. Like yeah he and Lavellan might want their happy ever after but as Rook that have been betrayed multiple times, there’s no way they can give Solas that so easily. Rook is not Inquisitor.

[@Allaiya.]

Yeah I’m thinking of going back and fighting him because he really doesn’t deserve it lol Rook and Inquisitor (even a romanced one apparently) still can’t convince him to stop. He’s had like hundreds of chances at this point.

[@burnedpotatoes720]

@@Kate-ms2mn Lmao even Lavellan can't stop him from his bullshit.

[@giorgialine1442]

Get him, Neve

[@OfficialRayLiotta]

I wonder if Solas has any dialogue for Emmrich who didn’t achieve Linchdom 🤔 he didn’t in my play through

[@xebenkeck1721]

Does this change depending on vengence harding vs humane harding?

[@何足道-f4y]

I think I just wanted to get this over with and ran very fast so I missed all these, well guess not much of a loss anyway based on the quality of the conversation.😅

[@GiggleMonshter]

HE HAS BANTER?! 😮

[@ande5080]

Bellara clocked his ass

[@keirangray902]

Can anyone translate what he said to Davrin at the end There?

[@Fenharelcamelater]

Daaaamn Naeve did him dirty

[@hajnalcsillaghauck2464]

Where did you find the armor? It's really pretty!

[@cracmar03]

What really baffles me in Veilguard, is that .. Flemeth gave herself very willingly to die. Like it was a cutscene. I can understand Morrigan failing to understand that and imagining that Flemeth was unwilling. Or Bellara might believe Morrigan, which is foolish thing to do, but Bellara is naive. How come Solas didn't explained that Flemeth gave her power willingly though. He never corrects Elgar'nan nor Bellara. I assume he doesn't bother with Morrigan since she is unwilling to listen in Inquisition for anything. Him and Flemeth had an agreement. Even in DA II she speaks how she has 'meeting' and 'destiny awaits us both dear girl/boy'. She was clearly talking about Solas, orb was an accident, but Flemeth knew soon was going to be end for her either way. That's why Flemeth was trying to secure Old God's soul future before 'meeting'.

[@Allaiya.]

I’m confused. Why did Flemeth /that fragment of mythal let Solas kill her?

[@madmrtvola8606]

@@Allaiya. I assume Flemeth broadly agreed with Solas and so gave him the power boost. After all, the prison of Evanuris needed to be remade and the elves were suffering in alienages. Also possibly an apology for all the times Mythal abused Solas' friendship.

[@siobhanhenry9094]

​@@Allaiya.She believes in fate and she knew it was bound to happen.

[@EmperorDxD]

This is wrong he killed her she did not want it she disagreed with him

[@madmrtvola8606]

@@EmperorDxD I mean, in Inquisition she seemed to know he will kill her (she has prophetic abilities, after all), hence her passing Mythal to Morrigan beforehand, but still chose to meet him in person. Had she been against it, she could have easily told Solas' plans to whoever drank from the Well or used them as backup to keep him at bay. I'd say Flemeth had her reservations but couldn't really refure Solas.

[@ChloesDragons]

Gosh harding hits 😢

[@wordyblerd7723]

I didn't get any of this! I feel so cheated! lol

[@Astralaeyna]

Does Solas not talk to a non-Lich Emmrich...?

[@darkmagicfan]

What does "Mala shivanas ar athim" mean?

[@mrt6012]

Emmrich owned Solas so hard

[@katm8128]

What is his dialogue with a mortal Emmrich?

[@Unknown_Web_User]

Its like a maniac talking with his victims

[@x_rhi_x2772]

Poor boy been locked in the fade. He's desperate to yap

[@burnedpotatoes720]

Either he's fishing for confirmation that he's an ass or he's goading them into attacking him just to prove his narrow-minded view that the people of the material world are stupid.

[@ElectraHeartisdead]

do you have one with Emmrich where he isn't a Lich? 🥺

[@GaiaTheNatureWitch]

does it changed when Romanced?

[@trustnoone5821]

what was it that he said to davrin?

[@FlyingFalcon01]

From what I can scrounge up on the wiki: Mala - your Shivanas - duty? Ar - I/me Athim - humility So maybe something like "Your duty humiliates me"?

[@cracmar03]

@@FlyingFalcon01 more like 'Your duty humbles me' would make sense.

[@FlyingFalcon01]

@@cracmar03 ah yes, that makes much more sense. 😂

[@Landis963]

@@FlyingFalcon01 "...humbles me" might be more accurate, but yeah.

[@SelfPhobic]

Is there dialogue for mortal Emmrich?

[@TheChelus]

Solas approves him because emmrich gave up immortality to save a spirit and that the spirist are talking positive of emmrich

[@TheOwlQueen]

I'm curious about the banter with non-lich Emmrich, since this banter referenced it

[@ninethreefivesix]

It's the same conversation but much friendlier. Basically, he likes Emmrich.

[@carl9148]

Love Bellara at the end, we can all agree to love her there, for that one, that's like, "ooh, you go girl!" Way to tell it to him, Bel, she has got a good point there, as an Elf and as a woman herself, about Mythal at least. What can Solas say to justify himself there, loving her and then killing her, fragment or not? How does someone forgive that in him or anyone at all, really?

[@tanachai-v1d]

The writing in this part is surprisingly good, unlike the other parts in the game.

[@theokusuma7268]

this guy is just a compulsive liar, he can't help himself 😂

[@warren1964able]

They are so bitter toward solas life is not black and white ,thing never goes to plan he save the world eons ago calm down . tash is so real

[@BlackMegas]

Thank you. God they are so preachy

[@sadshlyapa]

To be fair he juuust tricked Rook into a god prison and was fucking with their mind about their (Rooks) friend's death... I'd be a bitch to him too. The fact that they're willing to work with him to save the world is them acknowledging that sometimes you have to do what you have to do for the greater good.

[@wardensurana8336]

He deserves it. No more no less. Also, why am I not surprised Taash's banter was the only moronic and uninteresting one?

[@debishvebishwish4839]

Even if Rook is being nice and willing to work with him nicely he still betrays them, multiple times, and he still have one big lie after this scene, no wonder Rook and their companion is fed up with Solas. Patience have its limit yknow

[@Ariasofnight]

He was literally trying to bathe to world in demons 🙄 You can love and all, but he IS an evil antagonist

[@nananderson7259]

I'm furious. Bellara "She (Mythal) didn't want you to destroy the world to avenge her." Did anyone at Bioware even watch the cutscenes?? nothing about that cutscene reads as "oh no pls don't do this!" Solas says he should pay the price but the people need him, he says how sorry he is and Mythal's response isn't "Oh it's ok you don't have to avenge me :)" it's "I'm sorry too, old friend." I think if ANYTHING you could argue that Mythal was going to make a play for Solas' soul but he beat her to it. And to what end? Flemeth made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR what Mythal wanted in Inquisition. "She was betrayed as I was betrayed, as the world was betrayed. Mythal clawed and crawled her way through the ages to me - and I will see her avenged!" But yeah no, Mythal was totes chill about it by this point, NBD.

[@debishvebishwish4839]

What? Mythal clearly said to Solas “The elven people of today do not deserve to see the world they love to be torn apart to salvage your conscience” She said sorry because she can’t help Solas with the Veil plan. So Solas ended her.

[@nananderson7259]

@debishvebishwish4839 yeah no, that was post Veilgaurdification. Inquision paints a VERY different picture which the writers paid literally no attention to.

[@debishvebishwish4839]

@@nananderson7259 idk the writers so I can’t say that

[@nananderson7259]

@debishvebishwish4839 don't need to know a man to evaluate their work

[@cracmar03]

@@debishvebishwish4839 They speak of state of Mythal in Flemeth in Inquisition. "As long as the music plays ... we dance." Flemeth hardly enjoyed that much duty to Mythal. As for Veilguard Mythal, maybe being in Morrigan tempered her. Morrigan was far better mother to Kieran then Flemeth to her, apparentely. And Morrigan could have had lover. Mythal was craving vengeance in Flemeth in Inquisition. And we see fragment of Mythal not being molded by mortals being all pissed off and wanting nothing but vengeance in Crossroads.

[@bendrix1932]

Worst. Game. Ever.

[@ElectraHeartisdead]

GET HIS ASS HARDING GET HIM AGAIN (still love you tho Solas 😭🫶)