Gallagher Growing Pains | Shameless

[@isabelle5230]

it's been cut from this clip, but when Fiona started the family meeting, Liam was busy eating cereal until Carl put his spoon down so he'd be attentive. and i think that's cute and responsible of him

[@gooneybud]

lip and ian being big brothers ❤

[@kingdorm9546]

At end you can see lip was impressed

[@Ebie_]

Lip actually looked so proud of Fiona at the end. I love him so much

[@upstating]

Lip wanted better for all of them, and bared the weight he couldn't give them that.

[@mckymcobvious3043]

Lip was straight up self righteous when Fiona - who essentially had to start parenting him at the age SIX, at the _oldest_ - was spiraling, and at her lowest... when _he_ was at his lowest, she coddled and supported him, hooked him up with a job, understood his problems and validated his feelings, helped him with his immediate and long term needs, forgave him when he messed up... idk what Fiona's legal situation was with Liam and Carl (who was 17 when Lip kicked her out), she was legally responsible for them and cutting them off with no contact wasn't cool, but I lowkey HATE the way Lip treated Fiona in S9. I know how judgemental people in recovery can be, but dear LORD, he blamed her for his sponsoree's relapse even though she had NO WAY OF KNOWING the guy had a problem, wouldn't take her sincere apology because she was also _explaining what happened,_ and kicked her out like the parentification he's experienced was EVER _her fault._ yes, by all means DON'T gather the family together for any sort of intervention, and give everyone the chance to tell her they love her and _are grateful_ for everything she's done and will still have her back at the end of the day (I know this is redundant, but _the way SHE DID for LIP at HIS lowest!_ ), just scream at her and kick her out, blame her for everything, including her own psychological problems!

[@rogueryder3285]

​@@mckymcobvious3043thank you! Somebody finally says it. If I were Fiona back in season 9, I'd take Lip to the streets and punch him down like he grown and not a whiny little kid anymore. His problem is that he always looked for an excuse to take his frustrations out on Fiona. He was the main one who put her on that pedestal of Perfect Do-It-All Supermom mess that had her spiraling since she was six years old. Just because Fiona was the strongest and the responsible one, doesn't mean she had to always be that way and the only one doing it. For a bunch of independent self-made kids she raised, they are still rotten little brats even in their adult lives. Ian's mess landed him behind bars for over a year. Lip's an alcoholic with mommy/daddy issues who intentionally screwed up in previous relationships over the years because he was looking for an excuse to act a fool. Debbie became a predator and teen mom for sport. FOR SPORT! And took her frustrations out on Fiona for the proper discipline she was giving her. She wanted to prove to her how grown she could be and intentionally turnt back into a bratty child with a child. Carl was a reckless juvenile delinquent that tried to kill people when Fiona told him no over and over. Her main blessing as a surrogate mother was Liam. He remained innocent to the core. Sure she may have screwed up back in season 4 letting that coke lie around not aware he might get into it. But she did an amazing job with him the most. The more she says no over and over to those brats and they do the opposite and get themselves into deeper situations and expect her to save them at every cost, the more she is crying and crying on the inside because they were trying their hardest to make it seem that she wasn't being a good parent. She couldn't be Perfect Do-It-All Supermom forever. She did everything and then some. They're grown now and barely doing enough. Something had to give. I love this scene because this is Fiona finally standing up to her willfully stupid little brother, and telling him that she can survive in this world and make something of her self and accomplish any dreams she has, because she is sick of his shit, way more than she was of Frank and Monica's

[@pleasedtomeetyou1284]

@ rewatching the show I see what they did. First Fiona stepped up to raise her siblings after her parents were doing drugs and being absentee and then Lip had to step up when Fiona started the cycle again. I see why Lip is so angry because it’s like, why would you do the SAME thing our parents did. But I also see Fiona never got to live and when she had a little freedom with Lip and Ian gone, she finally chose to live…a little too hard but hey, we all make mistakes. I also saw Frank leave Coke and other drugs and alcohol around in the show, like the showed him leaving it and no one picking it up. Eventually they forgive Frank and Monica, somewhat, maybe more like accepting them for who they are rather than fight them to change so eventually, Fiona will always be forgiven. This is family problems. This show depicts family drama perfectly. Lip is as disappointed in Fiona as was when she said “I never found Frank” after he left them on the curb in the winter. The parallels in this show are beautiful. How they show you that some things are inevitable BUT you have the choice to keep doing the inevitable or change. And it’s hard but what’s even harder is waking up everyday knowing what everyone said was true, you’re just like your parent and it stings even worse when you realize you could’ve prevented it.

[@carson11100]

@@mckymcobvious3043You my friend are preaching to the choir! Before I say anything let it be known that I do NOT in any way think Fiona is perfect and she has done selfish, horrid things but at the end of the day, compared to the selfish brats she has been saddled with, she is the best of them. She gave up her life to protect those kids from their abominable parents and foster care and how do they repay her? With nothing! They truly think they are better then her and are simply blameless victims of bad parents and a horrid upbringing with a right to do whatever they please and that Fiona’s only purpose in their lives is to bail them out of trouble so they can just do it all over again. They show no gratitude for her sacrifices, see her as a hinderance to their selfish desires and attempts to “fix” their family themselves (like Lip and Debbie), and an overbearing, control freak (like Ian). They dig themselves deeper in mounds of shit without a care in the world (like Carl) and never learn from a damm thing despite her pleads! Worst of all, whenever Fiona tries to break free and have her own life, they essentially laugh in her face, call her ideas stupid and do not support her. Her trying to be free is an insult to them because they see themselves as her only priority whilst it’s because of their selfishness and stupidity that she wants to break free in the first place. But no…. they are just little, misunderstood angels whom Fiona needs to bail out and protect at all cost…. anything she does instead be damned! When she is at her lowest and needs love, support, reassurance and attention they treat her like she is Frank incarnate, turn their backs on her and kick her out… claiming it is to protect the younger ones when the shit they have done could’ve gotten them all locked up or separated a thousand times over (mainly Carl, Debbie and especially Ian). Lip is the worst like you said and is the biggest screwup with no excuse given his high intelligence and when Fiona does something bad he does not hesitate to throw it in her face, call her ideas inferior and kick her out even when she did all she could to help him when he was at his lowest. He happily allows his sister to hit rock bottom to teach her a lesson instead of intervening….. In summation; her siblings are spoiled, rotten, selfish, stupid and destructive delinquents whom she should NEVER have become a legal guardian too as they clearly don’t give a shit for all she’s done.

[@Heeem13]

Dom’s father needs his own show 😂😂

[@ruffadamsthegreat.2662]

Agreed 💯 He and Carl.

[@coffeeaddictexpress5038]

He plays an alien on the Orville too!

[@pepsigirl283]

​@coffeeaddictexpress5038 I knew I recognized his voice!

[@coffeeaddictexpress5038]

@@pepsigirl283 hell yeah me too! I’m like that’s Boris!

[@tracyxenlovesmovies24]

That cop in Shamless was a fucking G🔥🔥🔥

[@stacywilliams5895]

When Fiona made a system on everyone's share of the rent I honestly believe this was part 1 of her breaking point. It was harsh to give her a higher pay to Debbie knowing she has to take care of Franny but I understand Fiona was facing the real world.

[@gamerlordthebest]

Debbie made her choice, she wouldn’t have even met her baby daddy if she didn’t rape Matt, she then proceeded to trap him, yet people still try to defend her

[@chindiejade2769]

@@gamerlordthebest Why bring up Matt? That was over when she met Derrick, either way she was gonna find a way to trap a guy into being with her anyways

[@gamerlordthebest]

@@chindiejade2769 because those girls that ganged up on her only talked to her because she raped Matt, then Derek came to help which led to this

[@chaalbaaz429]

@@chindiejade2769 Why are they bringing the fact that she raped a guy? idk man, it sounds like she might be a terrible person.......

[@essencenicole9731]

It wasn't harsh. It's reality. Being a parent costs, she wanted a baby, she has to pay for the upkeep.

[@jacefaulk8792]

I agree that Fiona should have her life. But she signed up to be a guardian/parent to the kids.

[@Jeff-sf6cl]

She kept them together and out of foster care. She could have just as easily relinquished guardianship to Lip or Ian and lived her life. Instead she stayed involved and did the best she could to help them while building something for herself. You have to understand that Lip didn’t want to eventually help take care of Fiona, nor did Ian, or Carl, or Debbie. So why should Fiona have terrible credit, dead end jobs, and live in poverty the rest of her life? Is the answer because she deserves it for the simple crime of trying to protect her siblings from foster care?

[@islamicschoolofmemestudies]

​​​​@@Jeff-sf6cl The problem is fiona...is still fiona. You could gave her, the best man possible, the best job available, the best family(children etc), and she will still fuck up everything...i mean everything. She couldn't keep it in her pants, she kept jumping from 1 bad boy to another😂😂, she kept returning to drugs, jumping one job to another. Lip however, grew out that phase of "Older brother" and become a regular white collar worker with potential of having a nice family, Lip lives and matures himself. He can have a nice career and wouldn't screw it up. He should've been the first one to leave Chicago. I knew this because i knew someone like Lip and someone like Fiona in my life. You need someone like Fiona as an elder sister, she fits the bill, the gallagher found the perfect sister...but as wife/lifetime companion? No thank you.

[@Jeff-sf6cl]

@@islamicschoolofmemestudies You are correct that Fiona is a mess for most of the show. She cannot stay clean, cannot stop cheating, cannot get out of her own way, ect… But, getting out of Chicago and out of her siblings lives gave her a chance to simply things and start over. Maybe she continues her negative cycles, maybe she turns it around. Whatever happens, she deserves nothing but love and gratitude from all her siblings, especially the ones who tend to treat her badly (Lip and Debbie,) as she gave them so much more than they will ever give her.

[@islamicschoolofmemestudies]

@@Jeff-sf6cl I knew exactly a person like Fiona and Lip in my life. I live in asian household, I respect people like her very very much.. for taking care of the whole family in their teen and young adult life. The eldest sibling that you can respect, even i would say the *best* because she took care of you and others, but when you're already a career adult...you'll relate to someone like Lip, and would definitely want someone like Fiona to stay away. You can have someone like Lip to be close to you as a sibling even in your adult life...but as for Fiona? Nope. The *damage* on her mental health has been done, jumping from one job to another, from 1 bad boy persona to another, no thank you she should stay away. Just watch the show and you'll know why. Nobody's perfect. She's the perfect sister, but definitely not a perfect adult, a very very dangerous person.

[@islamicschoolofmemestudies]

@@Jeff-sf6cl Debbie fucks up everything, she deserves everything that got to her by her own choices. She could've gotten an abortion, and that would be the most sensible choice but she didn't, they didn't. And who the burden goes then? Fiona ofcourse. And this type of shit kept coming and coming, until Fiona's mental health cracked beyond repair making her ended up a dangerous person to be close or even fell with. The girl, the protagonist of this family has now gone under the bus. Lip? I can see him having a settled family and career. I can see him as a brother i can be close with after age of 25, same with carl. But fiona? Oh no, thank you.

[@shawncoleyjr.6149]

Carl: Are there shots going to be fired Father of girl: I sure fucking hope so

[@ellsworth1984]

You're never going to be anything... if you don't want to be something. 😊😊😊

[@elii9084]

2:06 - 2: 40 just gets me 🤣🤣🤣 just Carl not getting Dom cheated on him

[@Kjanel12]

Me too 😂😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😹😹😹😹

[@carl5536]

Being bipolar is a daily challenge especially when you've been raised by your siblings instead of your parents that were bat shit crazy from alcohol and drugs..I'm guessing that I was fortunate enough to be raised better but nobody noticed me being bipolar except for my child and I was in my 30s when she noticed it. A 10 or 11yr old child knew more than family or Dr's, but, I hardly ever went to Dr's cause I thought I was fine just because I worked hard to make a life for my child and myself before I met my daughter's mother... My bbgrl noticed it and she talked to me about it so I decided to get help but the Dr's decided that Valium was the solution to my disease...I'm guessing that they wire me up at times instead of leveling me out..After I figured out how habit forming they can be, I only take when needed cause they really don't help me with any of the problems that just pops up from nowhere...Carl manned up quick to clear himself with Doms father and that's how your supposed to do it nomatter how fearful it seems. Gotta get it in writing and that's exactly how men do it especially young men like Carl was at that point in time..I could spit out so many stories when I's alot younger than I am now lol..I'm still free from STDs cause I was a rounder at a certain age and I always make sure that my doctor checks me out every 6 months cause ya never know what could be hiding in your body without having a clue about it..

[@LI-xv7uq]

If your daughter noticed it when nobody else did, it shows that you two have a deep connection, that is beautiful 😭❤️

[@chindiejade2769]

It's the fact that They all were so surprised when she gave them what to pay for the bills because they wanted a free ride the rest of their lives SMH

[@semi9111]

I get wanting to make something of herself and not being constantly bothered but to suggest putting Kevin and V then her is stupidity to me

[@DVDTAPEAFKs]

It isn't stupid.

[@semi9111]

@@DVDTAPEAFKs To put Family friends higher up on an emergency contact list than actual family.

[@DVDTAPEAFKs]

@semi9111 Fiona already clarified that she wants to start building up her life now that her siblings are almost adults. You can't blame her for wanting some space after getting babies thrown at her every on so forth. If you think that was selfish of her, then you are the selfish one here.

[@semi9111]

@@DVDTAPEAFKs How’s it selfish to think someone should have responsibility for family members. I was taught after family members no one necessarily you couldn’t make both a priority .

[@DVDTAPEAFKs]

@@semi9111 Because Fiona is not their mom. Most of them are already grown to take care of themselves. They don't need help to become independent since they are all grown already.

[@ashleydiaz929]

He has to set a timer for every time he wants a beer that’s crazy

[@The_Demon_Beelzebub]

I really started to hate Fiona at times in season 4 and then in season 6, she files to be their guardian and then talks to the family like it’s a burden, even saying “I’m not guilty” when Liam almost… ya know, and now this.

[@signofpeace7255]

Well her family is a burden

[@The_Demon_Beelzebub]

@@signofpeace7255 and she is a hypocrite nonetheless

[@signofpeace7255]

@@The_Demon_Beelzebub everybody in this show is a hypocrite no exception, you said she didn't take accountability for what she did to Liam, well she did at the end of s4 and in the phone call with lip .

[@TheBlackSheepsBlackSheep]

I'm glad they switched Liams cuz i dont think this one ever recovered from the 👃🏾🍬 debacle lol

[@halyketarrant]

Fiona is right, I’m sorry.

[@Skankhunt21]

Common Fiona L, she was still obligated to provide for Carl and Debbie because she was the legal guardian

[@AaronSparvier]

Where's Frank

[@violetoderwald6535]

Hi Fiona 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐

[@violetoderwald6535]

Hi Debbie 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒

[@islamicschoolofmemestudies]

Fiona will fuck up everything in her life both literally and figuratively.😂😂 You can have someone like Lip to be close to you as a sibling in your adult life...but as for fiona? The damage on her mentality has been done, no thank you she should stay away. Him being the top emergency list? At that age, I'll take it. The gallagher's have the perfect eldest sister to take care of them, the best one to be the pillar of their family and she literally carried the whole show😂😂. But to be honest she couldn't really take care of herself. Jumping from one job to another, getting herself pregnant, cheating 1 months after marriage, kept returning on joint the list goes on... She can be the best sister available...but as a wife/life time companion? Definitely not. She never actually grew up beyond their "20 year old" eldest sister mentality.

[@xx_evxlmia_xx]

It’s almost like trauma affects your relationships and all aspects of your life

[@justinmoody9164]

@@xx_evxlmia_xx They’re clearly not arguing against that. No one is required to be with a broken person that has that much emotional baggage, trauma or not.

[@xx_evxlmia_xx]

@@islamicschoolofmemestudies I never said anyone was “required” to be with her lmao

[@banjotiki3910]

It's not surprising considering she had Frank and Monica as parents.