Game Changers: Coco vs Alyssa | The Greatest Feud on Drag Race

[@JackFedYT]

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[@majelalover8837]

The only bad thing about the Coco vs Alyssa fight for me is that they always made Coco look like she was in the wrong for picking up the title, when everybody probably would have done it (and she was obligated to via a contract)

[@alliu6562]

I think it’s just a sign of the times… drag race, on purpose or not, used to do a lot of “angry/crazy black woman” edits, or leaned very close to it. Honestly, I can see why Coco did it. I mean, not only is she legally obligated, but also, it’s a title. If you’re good, you will win it again. There are more chances to claim the title in the future.

[@Discretion234]

@@alliu6562 idk if I understood you right but If you win a pageant once, you can’t win it again.

[@xsekhmetx]

Oh definitely. If Alyssa was a queen of colour, she would totally have been labelled a villain.

[@BambiTrout]

@@Discretion234 Yeah, and that was the bind Coco was in: she either took a crown that she didn't technically win, and therefore would be unable to win again, or she would be blacklisted anyway for breaking her contract as first alternate. The thing is that while each of them put the other in a difficult position, the real villain in each of their stories was the pageant itself. They asked Alyssa to close down her dance school in order to fulfil her obligations as winner - which she obviously refused, and then robbed Coco of the chance to earn her own crown. What made it even more tragic - and is probably why Alyssa was quite so hurt - was that after Alyssa was originally crowned, she sat down with Coco and they started to plan out how to ensure Coco won the following year, with Alyssa offering help with dresses and designers, etc. and so when Coco took the crown, Alyssa saw it not as Coco just fulfilling her contractual obligations, but as a friend betraying her, and choosing the pageant over both their friendship and working relationship. But thankfully it's all over now and they're both more successful and famous than the pageant that caused all the drama!

[@1000rocket]

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS! #JusticeForCoco

[@alliu6562]

“Coco was the one backstabbing me behind my back” absolutely iconic quote that is surprisingly underrated in the fandom I think lmAOOO

[@elizabongwater]

technically makes sense

[@grantmegan91]

@@elizabongwater it's repetitive. She just needs to say backstabbing me

[@Gayoinion]

@@grantmegan91 that’s what makes it funny diva

[@willunawonderland5453]

right in the backrolls

[@Jose-g6d]

BACKROLLS?? LOL

[@lune78]

Season 5 was lightning in a bottle, it checked all the boxes of a great reality TV show: the drama, the rivalries, the underdog who ultimately comes out on top and beats the villains... So good.

[@fujoshiyesiam2846]

Ikr because I never taught Jinxx would win but glad he did because him coming bk on all stars 7 was hilarious

[@olraytsolrayts9221]

@@fujoshiyesiam2846 and Jinkx won again..

[@olraytsolrayts9221]

@@fujoshiyesiam2846 you're hilarious

[@fujoshiyesiam2846]

@@olraytsolrayts9221 ah ok then

[@laincoubert7236]

also the challenges gave us so many iconic things like quotes. "where my people at" cracks me up anytime i hear it lol

[@haydenprewett988]

“Coco was the one backstabbing me behind my back” grammar icon

[@vinnym5607]

Let me see if someone beat me to it....Yep!"

[@grahamc1173]

This is why I will always stand by season 5 being the best season, even above AS2 (which was practically a S5 rematch) and S6. Everyone is so talented; 8 different people won challenges, so it feels like anyone’s game. And the challenges are so GOOD - we get some of the best (and most iconically bad) performances of all time. and most importantly, the storytelling is the best EVER done. Jinkx as the underdog who prevails, the Rolaskatox clique, Alyssa vs. Coco, Ivy and Lineysha being stunning and beautiful, Jade bringing ALL the drama, Honey and Vivienne’s double elimination, Monica coming out as trans on the main stage, Serena’s villainy, and hell even Penny Tration has a great drag name. Everyone on the cast gets something. It’s my favorite rewatch, and it’s reality TV perfection from beginning to end.

[@maurreese]

💯👏🏿

[@gfrazier14]

I agree 100%

[@Pailers]

Season 5 has so many quotable moments and the cast are still mostly all very relevant in today's drag race fandom Edit: Also when Coco chose Alyssa first for the challenge I was hollering the first time I ever saw the episode. What a move!!!

[@darkciderthemoon3712]

It was both a gag worthy TV moment and a display of professionalism. Coco did what she had to do, even if it included briefly playing nice with her adversary in order to do well in the challenge 🤷‍♀️

[@Pailers]

@@darkciderthemoon3712 exactly!! It was amazing! I was like, 'ooooooh Coco came! To! Win!' I hope we see more Coco on future seasons, even if it's just for amazing lipsyncs

[@lucasraines]

She set aside their feud because she knew that Alyssa would be an asset. It was a smart tactic and she was very open about it. She admitted that Alyssa was a talented dancer and that only a fool would skip over her because of a petty argument.

[@sackofpotatoes1345]

you forgot the best Coco-Alyssa interaction: WHAT THE HELL YOU SQUIRPIN LIKE A CHIRPIN LIKE A BIRD??

[@grantmegan91]

This is off topic but I always thought cocos blue contacts were very strange and really aged her. When she doesn't have them in, her eyes are a beautiful deep brown and she looks softer and obviously more natural than the neon blue.

[@gabsolute]

I KNOW! It honestly made her look more orange…

[@jaycookie2912]

@@gabsolute Doritocore all around 😍

[@Valathia]

Coco has such beautiful big eyes, the contacts detract from that 100%.

[@peachii3124]

i knowww, her drag really is beautiful, but those blue contacts totally distracted me from that 😭 same goes for trixie. so glad they both stopped using them lol

[@renzgeffrey429]

Their “Cold Hearted” lipsync was definitely one of the best. Double shantay worthy but what makes it more interesting is that it wasn’t for forced for storyline purposes, they were both in the bottom the same amount of times and both got one challenge win. That lipsync really was the climax of their rivalry. Love them both so much ❤

[@sugarcrash423]

Coco sleeves kinda carried but Coco still did it amazing

[@minerva9843]

There was a possibility for this level of drama in S14 but unfortunately had to be scrapped because of injury. Kornbread stated at a Roscoe's viewing party that she knew EVERY Queen before the season started. There's a reason why she was MC even though she was out so early. She was not afraid to speak her mind because any queen that she talked to knew her already. But oinkle went cleek and we got the Neverending Season instead.

[@moonlitgalaxy5940]

OINKLE WENT CLEEK 💀

[@Gayoinion]

We need to give the all stars 2 girls their props I truly believe without the success of their season the show would not have gotten picked up by vh1

[@RowdyBoy82]

Read You, Wrote You was a marketable bop and a music video channel that is bundled with cable channels like E! and Bravo (both very quiet friendly) would have been foolish not to partner with the franchise after that.

[@terraaaaaaaaaaaaa]

"plus it's gay so make it a bit shady" is the most iconic drag race youtuber quote ever

[@charliespinner6448]

Gurl you didn't just show Roxxxy Andrews and then a BUS immediately afterwards!!! 💀🤣

[@JackFedYT]

DID I DO THAT OH NO

[@charliespinner6448]

@@JackFedYT I see you 😏 Also, absolutely love your content btw ♥️

[@chelmrtz]

S5 is so iconic for this feud, the double sashay, the WILD AF EDITING, Alaska in boy Drag, etc etc.

[@wrenpen]

also i think an interesting video would be violet as a game changer, i mean she's one of the main reasons that "boy drag" is taken more seriously now (milk would also fit into this, but after ep1 of s7 "boy bodies" and "boy drag" wasn't seen as a bad thing)

[@mggmegan]

Violet didn’t do shit 💀

[@RowdyBoy82]

Season 7 had the beard challenge directly inspired my Milk. They had the half man/half woman challenge also brought to us by Milks boy Ru idea. Milk brought us boy drag, Season seven challenges - not violet capitalized on it and brought it to the main format.

[@paimon2206]

@@RowdyBoy82 wasn't the beard challenge a tribute to RuPaul's then makeup artist Mathu Andersen?

[@RNCHFND]

Nah

[@cocochambo2]

​@@paimon2206 Mathu was fighting for his life

[@SanaiaBamboo]

When Coco walked in lmaooo the immediate reaction of Alyssa was historical & then when Coco saw Alyssa and gagged 😩🤣🤣🤣 tv candy baby lol

[@gabrielleengel7476]

Season 5 was the first season I ever watched and no other season can hold up even a little.

[@cinematictheatrics]

It was also the first one I watched. 5 and 3 are my faves!

[@tadatada1234]

all stars 2 was definitely close (i mean it is kinda season 5 part 2) but i still honestly prefer season 5

[@Gonnyx]

@@cinematictheatrics same!❤❤❤

[@xXOpenYourHeart759Xx]

Really well made video. I loved in AS2 when Coco goes up to Alyssa with her Dorito purse and both of them quote their season and laugh. Loved their haters/friendship dynamic.

[@RubyConn]

Cutest fued ever since they both have hearts of gold. Honestly I felt like they just got each other, and were always meant to be friends.

[@wrenpen]

honestly i am yet to find a feud that has invested me more

[@zoozbuh]

Season 5 was the first season I watched and still my all-time favourite to this day. Just so iconic and memorable, with one of the best casts of all time.

[@georgiyrozanov8645]

Jackfed and Drag Detective posting in the span of an hour? WE ARE EATING SO WELL

[@hfwiaupi894]

Let's get into it. *waits for the sponsor* Jack: *goes into his whole life story from college and his sleep life* Me: *how is this more dramatic than alyssa vs coco* But honestly, I've been waiting for this for so long. Literally the only way drag race could beat this amount of tv drama would be putting every miss continental runner up up against the winner. And we would get sasha colby on our tvs.

[@MARTPOP]

All I'm happy about to seeing Sasha Colby's name soon 😭🔥

[@therobotdevil2284]

This season is definitely in my top 3. It really has it all. Another fantastic video, Jack!

[@Kryptotight426]

Season 5 is the first season i’ve ever watched (probably because i also wanted to watch as2 as fast as possible) and it still remains as my favourite. There were iconic queens, great storylines, the shady untucked and a perfect underdog build-up

[@JimSamable]

“Episode five talks us down from our optimistic high.” That’s poetry right there 😂

I think the reason their feud was so objective, from a writing perspective, is because they were treated more like side character, rather than main: the hero(jinx) or the villain (roxy) So, I think because they didn't need to neccesarily fit those archetypes, the edit was more of two rivals, doing their own thing...

[@geneventide5314]

Loved how you got clips, pre-drag race, of Coco and Alyssa! That was so cool to see!

[@MarvelousMissC]

Season 5 was the first one my sister and I started with, based solely on how it influenced All Stars 2. I’m really extra grateful that we did so. This storyline was so much fun to track, and your analysis here is wonderful! (S5 also turned me into a massive Jinkx fan, and I’m grateful for that too. 😂)

[@rinina]

Even though its on my top 2 favorites, i think this is the perfect drag race season, over edited in the best way and just the perfect representation of what made me fall in love with the show. It's a banger and i made my bf watch this one as his introduction lol

[@riyalukose6688]

season 5 is definitely my most re-watched season, it is just such good TV! Alyssa and Coco are such amazing queens and i love them both

[@kal-elavila5235]

Get the coin with the sponsors 💰💰❤️❤️

[@laincoubert7236]

this video is so on time cause i literally just finished watching S5 for the first time! the point you made about both sides being 100% human in this feud -- BRAVO. that's exactly how i felt watching the alyssa vs coco storyline. both had their highs and lows both in the competitive and character sense and i loved every. single. second of it. the S5 untucked's are UNMATCHED. most queens got shady moments, and most queens also got emotional because of the messages from their loved ones. and the trashy editing is just SO GOOD..... all we need now is coco to get another shot bc she deserves it.

[@princesskristan]

This was the season that made me get back into Drag Race. I stopped watching after season four, but after season five, I went back and watched the other seasons that I missed. It was iconic, and where I found more of my faves like Alyssa, Jinkx, Monica, and Alaska

[@christian7235]

What about the conflict between Marina Summers and Xilhouete on DragRacePH? I think it's a great storyline that the producers could've worked with a lot better, but this is the most intense I've seen a drag mother vs daughter go all out, especially when this season is one of the only other ones with an untucked

[@feyfey9745]

on the topic of balanced conflicts i think jasmine vs daya was a big step forward for the show and i hope they keep doing that kind of edit. great video as always!

[@lilarose3285]

The only thing is after their season aired crazy drag race fans sent a lot of hate/death threats to them (specifically Daya) which just ruins it for the rest of us! I swear we can't even have drama anymore w/out crazy fans taking everything so damn serious

[@feyfey9745]

@@lilarose3285 true and i really feel for her but i think that was a relatively small minority. Production/editors weren't doing character assassination like they did with brita and others (but rather balancing out the good and bad) and overall the fans reacted well to her. It's a step in the right direction

[@robbiedamascus]

Except for Serena... Girl... It's really impossible to have a drag race fan who didn't laugh at that moment. It was the read that brought the whole cast together... Alyssa and Coco side by side.. laughing. Like.. top tier moments

[@wardencommander616]

I feel like the Trinity/Eureka 'fued' could have could have reached these heights, but Eureka's injury prevented it from really being spotlighted or played up. Both are fierce competitors, extremely talented, and have large, at times prickly personalities. Add their previous history, it could have gotten big.

[@TheChannelJ1]

That's what I was thinking. It would have been great placing Trinity and Eureka on the same All Stars Season....what a missed opportunity.

[@godrickstockwell1505]

I feel like another reason that this rivalry worked was because they both recognized each other as fierce competition. I might be wrong but I don't remember either one of them trying to bash the other's drag or try to say that they don't deserve to be on the show. When Alyssa won the dancing challenge we don't get a confessional of Coco saying the win wasn't justified and when Coco places high we don't see Alyssa saying the judges are wrong.

[@eddos8303]

thisss

[@sunnygolightly9996]

Words could not describe how much I love and adore both of these legendary queens. It just breaks my heart to see either one of them being upset or sad.

[@Jacob42086]

Back ROLLS?! 🤣

[@fuckinghugepablo]

after years of only being a fan of drag race thru youtube (pit stop, purse first, unhhh, meme compilations etc) i started with season 7, and i liked it a lot, i could tell why it wasnt everyones fave but when i decided to go way back and watch seasons 5 & 6, WOW. i could tell these were the fucking goat seasons of the franchise, so much satisfying storylines and incredible casts and personalities in both seasons

[@sashachoerry]

its the way this arc ends with a top 2 all time lip sync...

[@cosmo7767]

Jack! I have watched almost every single one of your videos and I always get excited whenever you post a new one. Seriously your content is not only entertaining but thought provoking. Keep it up!! I love your content and can’t believe you don’t have more subscribers❤️

[@messychicken]

another testament to me going back to view season 5!~

[@jilliebeanisnotmylover]

JackFed, love your content! As a longtime drag race fan and new subscriber to your channel, I love the deep dives and dissections. Thank you so much for the time you put into these!! I have to add a feud that I think could have been good if they had more time on screen together... Trinity and Eureka from season 9! Had Eureka not gotten injured early on I think we would have had a great story to follow, and an even greater lipsync battle. But like you said, it still would not have had the same energy as Alyssa and Coco. They are and will always be the blueprint 🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@elizabongwater]

detox wasn't shady, she knew the only way Alyssa and Coco could be friends again was to give them a common enemy.

[@camespejo]

this is kind of a reach 😭 did she ever say that?

[@lennycrew3]

I still just think... the story of Season 5 was TOO good. It feels TOO convenient that you know there was a ton of producer meddling to get it to line up exactly the way they wanted it. Whether it was the mini challenge, which queen won the challenge, the lip sync choices, it all just felt suspiciously perfect.

[@thebumpercar1344]

I think a recent feud that comes close to how even it is depicted is Daya Betty versus Jasmine Kennedie. They were both shown to be fierce competitors and lip synchers, to be talented in their own ways, and were good drama. I just wish they had an LSFYL to cap the feud off too.

[@jenniferhalliwell416]

Listen...when it comes to that Lip Sync in my opinion it is in the top 3 BEST drag race lip syncs of all time! When Coco worked those sleeves! My god! She yanked Ru's wig OFF! Ru was sooooo gagged! That moment...has now become like the iconic "Wonder Woman Spin" when she is transforming! Those sleeves...came at the right time! The timing...the song...the sleeves! The way she punches the air at the exact moment Alyssa slams back! As though she was being knocked back. There were sooooo many perfect moments it can only be described as lightening striking! TWICE!!! In the same spot! There will never be another lip sync like that one!

[@jaykknight2248]

I will always be sour about being robbed of a derrick VS india season. Especially that season needed more of that drama. It would have bled perfectly i to India VS Alexis

[@mimmrose742]

I watched s5 fist as a drag race beginner. I was obsessed and here I am lol! Alyssa and Coco are the legends !

[@Sisisiyoyoyoyo]

Drag race phillipines had a very good storyline similar to this one with xillouette and her drag daughter marina summers, it literally took all season for them to come full circle yet every episode we got another part of the story and it was never overwhelming

[@IvanPerina]

Season 5 have the best lipsyncs, the best stories, one of the best casts

[@rotem1437]

Season 4-6 was so good...I miss those days

[@surrealistgirlx]

As I said before, LOVE these new videos. Monica Beverly Hillz coming out as trans was also a highlight. Re: subscriptions it would be good to explain if this effects your monetization. Does it also relate to the algorithms in any way? I thought it might affect how often you come up as a suggested watch. You put so much into your videos. I've been a long-time viewer. Last thing do you have a Patreon account? It helps many creators to fund their work, put our exclusive content & build a community.

[@jean-francoisdaignault9612]

Am I the only finding themself saying "Yup. Hard agree. OMG yes. Tooooootally!" in my head whenever I watch Jack's videos?

[@madeleine61509]

I agree with everything said here. I feel like Season 5 was truly the absolute height of Drag Race (no shade to recent queens, considering they are only a singular factor in a super multifaceted piece of media). Sure, it might have felt like even trashier TV than newer seasons with how it was edited, but it was just so perfect. If nothing else, casting was definitely perfect even in its flaws. I have introduced many people to Drag Race, and every single one of them names S5 as one of their top 3 favorite seasons, usually along with AS2 which is basically just an extension of S5.

[@gabrielleraul488]

great video, such an iconic duo.

[@captainflapjak1]

I love that you said "backstabbing me behind my back"

[@yanlulu8867]

same here, always suggest S5 for a start point, and it's also easier for people to catch up AS2

[@Ineddiblehulk]

I’ve never watch S5, that reaction from the pair as Coco walks in is even better than the mirror reveal in AS2!!!

[@basil4045]

14:21 i find that moment so cute lol

[@teoremadethalys]

jack your videos simply save my days!! thank you so much for you work

[@he-lium]

Well done, this video was amazing, thanks for putting in the work 👏

[@Shane3125]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Rose and Tina Burner. Was similar situation to Cracker and Aquaria. Both had history with each other and was brought up from the beginning. Barely went anywhere. Don't think production got the drama they wanted out of it lol

[@EmpireSun]

What a fantastic breakdown, subbed.

[@queenrayna]

Season 5 was actually my starter season, and the first episode I saw was THE episode. I was 13 going on 14, I watched the telenovella, immediately fell in love with jinkx, saw Coco and Alyssa lip sync, and I was hooked ever since. I went to logo on demand and binged the whole season.

[@aekarinahater678]

Jesus Christ those godawful blue contacts 😭😭

[@manuelesaa3795]

You look awesome maaang 😍😍😍 Also such a good video, thanks for sharing ❤

[@dulcedelgadillovargas6487]

I love your video jack!! Always look forward to watching them when I eat breakfast

[@abdovvd4706]

I am the Vanessa Williams of drag . Is a moment in drag race herstory

[@laurduncan]

I feel like I barely remembered Jinx Monsoon's name by episode 4 or so because I was so enthralled with the Coco Alyssa drama. Best season ever. Can't wait for more Roxxxy drama next All Stars!

[@nnnnadia]

backstabbin behind my back

[@DG_Toti]

I think a major early moment you could tell Alyssa was gonna become a fan fave on AS2 was when she broke her established character in episode 2 (in a moment that was mirrored/lampshaded in episode 1) when she actively took time to look away from a mirror and went to check on Adore

[@sionellmccubbin953]

Yes!! S5 is where I tell everyone to start it’s the perfect jumping point

[@Andre69626]

That mattress is easy to unbox but for whatever reason your not satisfied. It has to be sent as is once placed in the bedroom 😂😐.. I work in mail and I've seen big mattresses lugged and shipped out with no packaging. I thought that was funny 😁 😂

[@owtsideperspective3588]

This was the first season i watched.

[@nnnnadia]

season 5 was my gateway drag

[@celinay]

Nobody: Coco in her confessionals: 🧿👄🧿 I love coco but them contacts are INTENSE

[@Jose-g6d]

Get er jade! , backrolls? Except for Serena 😂 & rigga Morris we're all the most iconic moments. Never gets old lol

[@quinntaylor1170]

The season I started with was season 6 with Bianca del rio and that’s the season I tell people to start on because it’s such a good season! Bianca is such a lovable villain that everyone loves and that snatch game is one of the best

[@Lovelykarma0909]

Okay, but any journalist wanna put in a video what really happened between alyssa and coco during their time competing in the pageant world. I’d pay for that 😂

[@paigehaines5250]

I always thought season 6 was the perfect season. None of the queens really faded away too much and had distinct characters.

[@minsunger]

lies

[@Batmanslovechild]

Isn’t this the consensus? Everyone loves season 6.

[@katamareckova4926]

Can't wait for the Ivy video 💕

[@dovelyy]

when you were listing off other examples i was waiting for you bring up drag race philippines' marina/xilo/minty drama

[@boyroy4u]

Farrah Moan vs. Gia Gunn on All Stars was pretty juicy. Forced, just juicy

[@ismaelcadena3510]

I’ve been in a weird slump lately, and jacks videos make me want to be more productive😭

[@bigfan977]

BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

[@Banshee1972]

Amazing video as always

[@paanicart]

season 5 was my first season of drag race, i had a friend tell me 'it's the only one that matters.'

[@heybagley]

11:33 This better be in your Crazy Editing Choices Part 2 video! Season 5 is my favourite US non-All Stars season because it is a far more underdoggy/satisfying and story-wise symmetric season than S6.

[@uhmmmidk4363]

id love to hear what you think about all the beef story lines in drag race ph! with xilhouette being marina’s old drag mother and with marina and minty having boy drama id really like to hear what u think in relation to the coco and alyssa rivalry

[@LeoMaraschino]

When you said you were sponsored by helix I did a double take

[@samuelboulton5521]

this is so good

[@yellowstar3335]

do more of this

[@RyanBartlitt]

Love your content!

[@alexmoon066]

Season 5 is a raw brilliant AS2 is a masterpiece and the fact it has almost the same cast + Katya 😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@nicholasKMAmusic]

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