Game Grumps - The Best of SONIC HEROES: TEAM DARK EDITION

[@obviousghost5895]

This story ending with "did I ever tell you that Shadow is a robot? Oh well, never mind, see ya" is unintentionally the funniest thing anyone has ever written

[@2097xl]

Iizuka: "imma write a a story to tie into that line"

[@strelitziamystery21]

It's so crazy. When I saw that for the first time I was dumbfounded.

[@talobsta]

I mean it's not like it wasn't hinted at during the story

[@aosuomi]

”I can be playing this over and over again and I would never know” ~ Arin Hanson, before going insane in Team Chaotix run, with looping map design

[@gregthesmegged2536]

If he went insane, then is he really wrong?

[@LBAW]

“They fly by so quickly, why not just do them all?” Oh, Arin...

[@joshuamorales1215]

this is in my top 5 favorite series solely because it gets so bad that arin literally 1. says he wants to call his mother and have her tell him he’s beautiful 2. gets overjoyed even when they hit a CHECKPOINT 3. actually calls out to god and asks him to save him

[@khalifeh22]

4 - it made Dan feel a bit of that anxiety and fear, especially when he screamed on behalf of Arin NO!!

[@JamienautMark2]

Dan’s “NO!” is still one of my favorite reactions ever. Actual fear.

[@Lucifersfursona]

*_N Y O_*

[@GruntGamerProductions]

Maybe the real "Sonic Heroes" were the friends we made along the way. Hey, wait a minute...

[@crashtefano]

Remember: Arin's funeral will have the Casino stage's music playing in the background.

[@danganronper6278]

To anyone wondering, yes Arin knew he had to destroy all enemies on that rasing lava section. He was just not very good at doing it

[@spiderdude2099]

Understatement of the CENTURY……

[@kegmonkey5648]

"Not very good at it." Maybe he sucks at killing enemies because he never quite figured out the level system in the game, lol. How he can ignore information that's literally onscreen at all times baffles me.

[@Lucifersfursona]

@@kegmonkey5648 idk what it is about game grumps specifically that makes people forget the concept of adhd

[@zeldadonkey1]

"They fly by so quickly" and now there's a 50 minute compilation

[@WayWardWonderer]

Best of Team Dark? GOOD.

[@JayTohab]

Lesmo: take _this_

[@Baby-Blue-102]

Aniliation

[@Baby-Blue-102]

Worthless consumer models.

[@CallMont]

KEEL!

[@moistraven1849]

AM I A JAR? AM I A JAR?

[@stikkysosage9125]

As someone who has (unfortunately) 100%ed this game, I can tell you beyond any shadow of a doubt, dying in this game is not even remotely your own fault 90% of the time, and that’s not even slightly an exaggeration.

[@chrislaf]

As a kid who played this and gave up long before 100% completion, I can back this up! I think it was the rising lava in the city level for Team Shadow and the Croc Escape for Team Sonic that gave me the most heart palpitations and probably got me to give up those runthroughs

[@Arkastopheles]

I have memories of fighting the flying final boss in this game when i was like 10 years old But after seeing this playthrough, im sure my dad had to have helped me beat it in secret, there's no way i went trough this hell alone.

[@Voltix15]

“CHIPS AHOY! YUM YUM” fucking kills me every time

[@gamefan6219]

Man Arin was on the verge of having a SERIOUS mental breakdown at the end of team dark's story....

[@younghusk1968]

33:22 I felt that "NO". Imagine going through only that, just for the game to not register you touching the goal, and nearly dying at the end.

[@speedverse4321]

My favorite part has to be lava section 8:27 Arin sounds like an karen at a supermarket in a funny way

[@zackoon49]

Oh he’s gonna literally go insane with Chaotix.

[@Baby-Blue-102]

He actually did surprisingly well.

[@itsluigitime5632]

To be fair chaotix wasn’t difficult it was weird. While dark was the more difficult of the four 🤔

[@shonefob]

The "alls I know is that im scarred" followed by victory music at 49:20 is amazing.

[@sunnyd1722]

I think this game is literally bad for Arin’s health. This much actual stress is genuinely bad for his health.

[@JayTohab]

Yeah. Hope he's okay.

[@KaptinScuzgob]

of all this game's crimes, having both Shadow and Rouge say "ill take it from here" when you switch to them is surely the biggest one

[@Blurro]

42:15 is amazing has he even ever been this angry before

[@msdime_]

"Did we play this level before or is it different now?" the compilation

[@dekkonot]

I... think I'm actually worried about Arin. This can't be healthy.

[@Naterpotater90]

28:40 I can't help but see Dan's face in the texture of the rock on the right of shadow

[@alexcelticw]

13:50 I always thought Omega said "Wisconsin Supermodel"

[@CyanSkyAnfall]

The world may never know

[@chaosmiles07]

"Worthless consumer models"? Nah, "Wisconsin Supermodels" sounds a lot better.

[@Lucifersfursona]

It’s a way more specific and arguably non-insult Superior phrase

[@Intimmydator_]

I can't imagine how Lesmo's ears function after these Sonic montages

[@trevorhensley3185]

Who's to say they do?

[@sophiawright4337]

9:36 my absolute favorite part

[@JayTohab]

I'm just now appreciating how much anxiety this game/playthrough gives me.

[@chaosmiles07]

Yet another compilation of meowing along with the music. 13:12 Ah, there it is!

[@ArmoredarmadilloX]

Sonic Heroes is a gift, truly.

[@josebarrientos4485]

Ross and sonic are killing arin’s mental health

[@Rhino-n-Chips]

8 years later and HE'S STILL TALKING ABOUT *FUCKIN JACKAL* I think of all the times he's forgotten legendary playtroughs that even reached outside the usual viewers but this one is SINGED into his brain. I'm not even mad, just so baffled.

[@runman624]

It's been years, what was the context of this? Of the jackal

[@jbskeleton991]

The casino level song actively increases the frequency of my depressive episodes

[@hesayshesayhowboutmesay]

Dan singing the “Sonic Heroooooes” song after Arin’s sadness is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@grothmumpin9291]

lesmo, my wonderful wonderful person, you've stricken at a great time. listening to this while i work on research for a project. thank you

[@wesleypatterson2989]

"Fire! Fire! I am a jar! I am a jar!"

[@mothwhomightnotbetrustworthy]

I swear, there was a point while they were playing and Danny was like: "how do you beat this?" And arin went and said "wha- I DONT KNOW! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU," but is was actually pretty funny

[@thelastwindwaker7948]

That was in the finale of Team Sonic.

[@mothwhomightnotbetrustworthy]

@@thelastwindwaker7948 thank youuuu

[@cainlightning5966]

1:46 Arin channels his inner Jon

[@shoken4421]

Been waiting on this since the last compilation . great work!

[@FreakyFanWoman1]

Every time with Arin I find a new kind of anger that nobody has figured out yet.

[@daggeranddoctor]

This video came out on a Thursday, so that "Feelin' good on a Wednesday, hey it is Wednesday... Wait, no it's Thursday." seems just a little more funny.

[@BigChumby]

Jesus, what a coincidence. I was just watching team Sonic when I see this uploaded.

[@kanriu]

19:18 "IT'S SO UNFAIR- why am i falling for so long?" 23:00 "Homer wrote shorter odysseys than this" 24:27 "No! How many times does this have to happen before people see that this is ass!?" 31:06 "Why would you have a painful nut?" 36:35 "... Horror" 37:07 "Wow this is a long way down" 37:50 "Just hope that i can make it through the day- *dies* OH REALLY?!" 39:43 "I've accepted the fate I've brought upon myself"

[@bawbehh]

If the debate of whether or not rouge is evil, just remember she's a government worker, I think that's all the proof you need

[@PayeTonPays]

*Annihilation*

[@Torraduke]

AM I A JAR!? AM I A JAR!?

[@radiusbecka1799]

Can someone please enlighten me what the hell is Omega supposed to say when it sounds like "Am I a jar?"

[@deidrebetts2936]

So, they say "annihilation, charge!" but as they attack, it cuts off in the middle and comes out as "annihi-charge!"

[@deadheckle2140]

Lesmo baby! Thank you for the blessing. Have a great day.

[@KingGhidorah5464]

"Do i have to kill all of the bad boys?" 20 minutes previously: "Destroy all robots to continue."

[@krnatsu]

I think what makes Arin seemingly "bad", is that he's encountering actual in game glitches and issues which makes him get mad and frustrated, which in tern, means that because he's so angry he isn't able to "focus"?? I guess is the word. I'm sure most people are like "well no shit", but I don't know I gotta make some sense of this because I never encountered these problems when I played Heroes, then again its been a good 6 years since I played it

[@MontyEggman]

I haven't played the game in a long time either, but I'm certain I never had anywhere near as much trouble as Arin had.

[@krnatsu]

@@MontyEggman I guess it's one of those case by case things

[@thelastwindwaker7948]

It's also because he's notorious for not reading the in-game instructions. There are so many things that the game explains, like team formations or how the bobsled works, and he either doesn't read them to begin with, or forgets them. Nearly every Team Chaotix stage was him not paying attention to what the mission is when both the loading screen and the walkie talkie tell you. That's some world class not-paying-attention.

[@starcrysis23]

Does everyone just conveniently forget Arin has ADHD and obviously has anxiety?

[@MellowMink]

@@starcrysis23​​⁠​​⁠​​⁠ADHD doesn't automatically make someone have more trouble with every game; it depends on the person and game. I can certainly be a factor but it's not automatically an excuse for some playthroughs where tutorials get totally skipped either. I would also argue that Arin and Dan giving continuous commentary the whole time, and for many continuous hours on end, is probably a pretty big distraction as well compared to if they just played a game silently by themselves outside of the show.

[@vibes5805]

Something about Arin's rage just fills me with such immense glee. I guess it's a catharsis, it just makes me so giddy

[@thelastwindwaker7948]

25:40 Did he seriously think Omega was the one who needs to catch the vine? And not, oh I dunno... the character on TOP of the totem pole? The one he's actually controlling??

[@Huckmon365]

Reasons why arin is angry at the game 1.skipping the tutorial 2.forgetting the controls 3.suck so bad at the game that it hurts to watch

[@tickk5448]

ADHD will do that to you 🤷‍♀️

[@MellowMink]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@tickk5448There are plenty of people with ADHD who don't skip tutorials and are good at most games that they play.

[@Steel-101]

33:30 NO!! Lol 😆

[@alexanderluken1937]

Thank you for the edit on arins explanation. It really annoyed me for no good reason that they didn't show it.

[@Lucifersfursona]

Arin: I have adhd People who understand adhd on some level literally the whole rest of the time: WHY IS HE NOT NOTICING THINGS Edit if you try to talk about being ND invariably someone will come mansplain your own brain to you

[@blturn]

Funnily enough, having ADHD makes you far more likely to notice things. It's a common misconception that people with ADHD have a short attention span; in actuality, they just have difficulty regulating it. They may have trouble focusing on a single task for an extended period, and because of this, they will also notice many different things in their environment. The mind constantly searches for something more stimulating and tends to notice things more. TL;DR: Running through missing everything has nothing to do with his ADHD; Arin is just obstinate.

[@Lucifersfursona]

@@blturndon’t explain my own neurodivergence to me but thanks Also adhd is different in different people. Arin’s a stranger to both of us. Settle down.

[@boots1622fan]

wow i just looked up dog police and that is the most 80s furry shit i've ever seen. if dan was a music video, he'd be that.

[@crimsoncrusader518]

I am a jar!

[@bobbobber4810]

Not only it took all that time to understand that he needs to hold the button to go faster, he NEVER going to use it again... The episode after, he is back to spamming the button instead of holding it... This game sucks and is a shame, but not only Arin take an eternity to get simple concept in games, but he FORGET what he learned right away. Still, congratulation to him to finish the game. This was hell.

[@donb7519]

tbh i dont think it ever is useful again or before that point

[@MellowMink]

@@donb7519He failed every single special stage because of that too.

[@meghanbrooks3990]

It’s wild to me that original SEGA Sonic games were so good, and then almost every game after is just so bad. 😂

[@TempestWind87]

Was Arin's emulator glitchy as fuck, or is this game really that terrible?

[@auvionx8940]

The game sucks

[@AyyyyJayyyy]

@@auvionx8940 more like a combination of the game, emulation, and arins bad gameplay

[@Blurro]

I enjoyed it a ton when I was like 7 and I replayed the entire game like a year ago and it isn't really anything like as hard and janky as Arin makes it look lol

[@MellowMink]

Yes.

[@charlesprichard5235]

Chaos control!

[@maybetoby]

43:50 was entirely Arin's fault. He just had to jump through the rainbow ring. Arin, the "Tails attack" only works if it's leveled up with the yellow balls lol Uses Chaos Control and just stands there not attacking the boss. They don't pay attention to the "plot" and wonder what's going on...

[@desireless4092]

31:21 LMAO! Dolphin emulator. Hope Nintendo does not find out or...

[@KvngNothin]

Seeing arin suffer during the rail sections is why to this FUCKING DAY I always use fly mode during rail sections its just not worth the fucking headache.

[@Juliafy]

LesmoBestOfs: Take this!

[@MrVince329]

IT'S NO USE

[@Juliafy]

@@MrVince329 GREATGREATGREAT

[@adachy]

Get a load of this

[@nickcastell1425]

Annihilate! Dodge! Annihilate! Dodge!

[@thelastwindwaker7948]

Get ready to be SCHOOLED!

[@superdupermariobrother1146]

43:40 Why didn't he switch into Rouge before he would have fallen down?

[@Paraguai123]

Because it only changes once you hit the ground, not during mid jump.

[@altreon3608]

for some reason i read the title as team dank

[@Levyathyn]

It's crazy how so many of this game's problems could be fixed by having falls not count as a death, and just spawn you back on the platform. Really, that's most of it. Bullshit fights, the glitches, the ghost letters in boss arenas... all that could easily be ignored if so much of this game's consistent control and design problems were swept under the rug by one single, simple change.

[@P1K3L]

annihilation

[@thehammurabichode7994]

@LesmoBestOfs PLEASE PUT A SEIZURE WARNING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TITLE CUZ OF 11:52

[@LesmoBestOfs92]

thanks for pointing it out, since it's only about 2 seconds I've straight up cropped it out of the video completely, edit should take effect within a couple of hours!

[@thehammurabichode7994]

@@LesmoBestOfs92 Bless you for actually taking it seriously < 3 sadly this happens later in the video as well. I wish there was some way to solve this, but there's so much footage of that attack I've given up spamming my message anymore

[@richarddransfield1646]

I still can't believe that for that last segment you had to hold B I'm now pretty sure that is the same reason I never beat the shadow run (me screaming like Arin in the background)

[@spiderdude2099]

Can’t wait for “forced stealth sections” in team chaotix…..Arin DEFINITELY will be good at those parts…

[@donb7519]

i mean he honestly was i think he only got caught like 3 times total

[@trentgrasshoff2134]

48:05 Jesus! JESUS!! JESUS!!!

[@joshw9333]

out of curiosity I played through this to see if it was THAT bad, the game isn't as good as I remember, but nah arin just sucks

[@starcrysis23]

Where’s the team sonic comp? I can only find Dark, Rose, and Chaotix

[@LesmoBestOfs92]

here you go! It was just "Best of Sonic Heroes" before since it came out before it was established they were doing the other playthroughs but I've renamed it now to keep it on theme with the others kzbin.info/www/bejne/goHan6GZn5iAqrc&ab_channel=LesmoBestOfs

[@sebastheoutlander2175]

Just wonderful

[@CallMont]

I love the game grumps very much and I can't imagine myself leaving an angry comment ever. It's just... man I actually ENJOYED the shit out of this game when I was a kid. Like Arin, I did not had many videogames when I was young, so... I played this over and over again because it was fun to me! I had no problem understanding the buttons, how to defeat enemies... I feel like Arin is trying to defeat "rock" with "scissors" and getting angry because he can't win. :,c and it hurts because I can't help him! Also he does not like or want to do tutorials and that doesn't help. I know he might expect some genius out of Megaman X where you learn the game by playing but, well, unfortunately this is not the case! IDK man, I just hope he have fun with other games.

[@donb7519]

i also loved the game as a kid but looking at it now as an adult whose taken game design courses and i hate pretty much everything about it

[@protoney8122]

When you a child you have a lot of time and no taste. I'm myself remember a lot of shity games that i finished to 100%. The problem is that a lot of sonic fans using "i played this as a child and loved it and never had any problems." In reality, they had problems, they replayed the same level over and over again and, basically, trained themselves like speedruners, and now expecting this from everyone else.

[@donb7519]

@@protoney8122 or as projared pointed out with sonic adventures 2 just constantly replayed the best parts

[@SailorGreen]

GOOD

[@ChaosBeast829]

Look, if this doesn’t have “HOT BUBBLE OF FART” I’m gonna be a little disappointed

[@CertifiedPsychiatrist]

17:28 thank you and 13:03

[@wearegogeta9974]

Well, technically no. The shadow that was found in heroes is the REAL REAL shadow but eggman copied him to produce bio mechanical cyborg shadows. As Neo metal said, “ULTIMATE LIFE FORM DATA has been copied.” As far as I’m aware of, Neo metal can’t copy data from synthetics that cannot use chaos energy. The only hole in that logic is then how did he use chaos energy to transform into metal madness and overlord. Simple. Because the data used to give him that new form came from embodiments of chaos, living entities that can use chaos energy. If the power of chaos is an ever changing, mystical energy, then it stands to reason that chaos data can do the same since it’s comprised of the same energy.

[@kafren89]

GOOD.

[@matthewmiller9485]

The Mario 64 meets Battle Kid with a Sonic skin slapped all over it!!!

[@hesayshesayhowboutmesay]

21:12 - 21:40 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pikagammerpluspizza7478]

FINALLY!

[@WolfyFancyLads]

"If a man JO's in the woods and there's no bear-" Dan, if there was a bear, it'd be a cruising spot for gay men, that's a completely different situation. :P Also, I played this game _as a kid_ and the first stage rails turned up I knew holding B (well, O in my case) was how you slid fast. Like, Arin, seriously, tutorials, please, use them.

[@timewarpchronos3795]

So some of what gamma said was; Annihi-CHARGE, and worthless consumer models

[@tatsuostatic8567]

This had to be the worst gameplay Arin played. Times where he got the hang of it and overall he straight up fail

[@poyodaboyo12]

Team Blast!

[@GREPAPA1]

TEAM DARK BABY WOOOOOOO

[@boogie1434]

48:05

[@Ace-wn8vn]

How can someone be this bad at a easy game