Game of Go on 13×13 with Commentary | Go Basics: Summary

[@frankng1212]

As a complete beginner, your channel is by far the best source of information on the game. It's very helpful when you go through the process of scoring a game. Please keep making content as I have no doubt you're helping to bring in or retain new players! Thank you!

[@GoMagic]

We are thinking about making a series of reviews like this one =) Stay tuned!

[@stephaniethomas8858]

My husband and I are just learning this game. He began a game and went all over the place. We don’t know where to go next. Is there a place to send a picture of where we are and have someone tell us?

[@luoluoye9620]

@@stephaniethomas8858 maybe go subreddit?

[@Rammbriel]

Absolutely true!

[@tempiadem586]

Love these videos where you walk through the reasoning of an entire game!

[@GoMagic]

Thank you! I’m sure you’ll be pleased to hear that we’ll be releasing the game reviews course soon.

[@TomerGazit]

The production quality, as well as your explanations, are superb!

[@GoMagic]

Thanks a million!

[@burningflurber]

Your teaching style is really impressive. I almost feel like I'm taking part in a story as I follow along with the train of logic.

[@GoMagic]

Thank you so much!

[@vgeorge97]

Everytime i hit a plateau, lo and behold! One more go magic video to help me with the next conceptual breakthrough

[@GoMagic]

We aim to break your plateaus =)

[@anasbencheikhahmed478]

I hope you do a remake of the 19x19 course and post it on KZbin. Great work guys.

[@GoMagic]

This is one of our plans as well =)

[@lyingcat9022]

It’s 7am. Time to get up and study some Go :) Thanks Go Magic!

[@GoMagic]

Nice routine there!

[@rbpompeu1]

The best analysis of a game. As an eternal beginner I've always wondering what's going through in a strong player's mind. You nailed it in a very compreensible fashion! Thank you!

[@GoMagic]

Thank you so much! It means a lot for us to hear that you liked it. 😊

[@MagicRealmVagabond]

One of the best commented games I've seen on YT to improve your Go skills! Great channel! I particularly learnt from your advice about not being afraid to sacrifice a stone if it allows you to increase connectedness (4:40). I keep making the mistake of trying to save each stone and this helped me realise how wrong a way of thinking it is

[@GoMagic]

You know as they say - strong players sacrifice a LOT! =)

[@_unkown8652]

I love this kind of Game review format. You should keep doing it! So instructive

[@GoMagic]

We are planning an entire course with something like that one day =)

[@Ou5dp74d55j]

More like this please, real games with commentary/analysis. It'd be much easier to learn the theory whilst being applied. Anyway, thanks for this.

[@GoMagic]

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, we're thinking of making something in the same vein, so stay tuned =)

[@AmaranthRBY]

As a fan of many board games, I never really had a chance to properly get into Go since it's pretty obscure in the West. I appreciate what you are doing to make the game more accessible!

[@GoMagic]

😇

[@georgegilbert4004]

thank you for the video. your channel is the easiest to pick up information from and i really need it.

[@GoMagic]

We try! =)

[@t3hm013]

Definitely relies on the previous videos. But this is definitely my favourite go video so far.

[@GoMagic]

And once it's all done all of these will become a course on Go Magic =)

[@learningisfun273]

This is such high quality content. The host, production quality, content are all top notch. I hope your revenue streams are enough so that you can continue to create videos. The AlphaGo documentary got me (and now my 5 yr old son) into Go and it's been a lovely journey so far.

[@GoMagic]

Thank you very much! Enjoy your games! 💙

I really love how chill and safe this channel is, and how carefully the bowls, stones and goban are aligned. Thank you Go Magic !

[@GoMagic]

Thank you for your kind words 🤗

[@logan32086]

As a beginner, I loved this. I'd like to see you do a few more 13X13 games. Love your channel!

[@GoMagic]

Thank you! :)

[@emanuelkomar6367]

thank you so much for this channel, teaching and explaining. I was influenced by a Netflix TV series “The Glory” and I immediately fell in love with this. Thank you for the website and this whole program.

[@GoMagic]

We're so glad you found us and that you're enjoying the channel! 😄 "The Glory" is a great show, and we're thrilled it led you here. Thanks for the love and support! 😊

[@ManuelMagnifico]

I really like this vids

[@GoMagic]

Cheers =)

[@victoriouspancake]

This is really high quality content. As someone that was completely naive when it came to Go a few weeks ago, this series on Go basics is exactly what I needed to stick to the game through the numerous losses to beginner bots in 9x9.... Thank you !

[@GoMagic]

You're welcome =) Soon this whole series will become a course on gomagic.org with interactive questions and quizzes!

[@camerondavies9659]

Been waiting for this 13x13 stuff

[@GoMagic]

😆

[@deanrumsby]

Thank you for the amazing videos! I thought Go wasn't for me but it keeps creeping back into my brain... It's very alluring! Your videos are incredibly enjoyable to watch 🙌

[@GoMagic]

Thank you so much for your kind words! Go is truly a game for everyone!

[@deathsunshade]

Love the content! I enjoy these types of videos. I would like to see 19x19 games explained in a similar way. This type of format is helping me learn the game and your videos helped me get my first win at my local go club against a way stronger opponent.

[@GoMagic]

Good point. We'll think about it. Thanks =)

[@tz_robbjgames2425]

Love the commentary videos. Thanks

[@GoMagic]

Keep watching them, we'll keep making them =)

[@thenakedsingularity]

This is incredibly educational.

[@GoMagic]

Thank you! 😊

[@ens3494]

Hi Vadim. Thanks for all your great videos on GO. Im 43, Ive been a lifetime chess player, just recently started playing GO. Im afraid, after all these years and practicing thousands of hours chess I will turn into a novice GO player😅

[@GoMagic]

That's fantastic! We always love to see more Go players :)

[@matthewsuggit8737]

Really enjoyed this one and learnt a lot.

[@GoMagic]

Thank you!

[@rbpompeu1]

Thank you for the explanation! Really instructive! One of the best I've ever watched!

[@GoMagic]

😇

[@M-rook]

Thank you very much. I enjoyed very much watching and learning.

[@GoMagic]

Thank you for being supportive. ☺

[@LaurieStrodeReal]

Awesome video! I love using your guides to improve my play. Think you could make some videos like this with 19x19 boards?

[@GoMagic]

Hey! Thank you for your kind words. :) We'll look into releasing 19x19 game review. Right now we have one in our course “Deeper into the Game of Go on 19×19” gomagic.org/courses/deeper-into-the-game-of-go-on-19x19/

[@tomasvanes]

And another great video indeed! Thanks man!

[@GoMagic]

😆

[@notwearingseatbelt]

One of my favorites videos. Thanks

[@GoMagic]

Thank you!

[@oscarlama]

This channel got me into go. Great explanations and techniques for beginners! Could you explain a way to aproximate the territory one has at the erly and middle game before any borders are drawn? Like the ones at the begining

[@GoMagic]

There is a course on counting territory on gomagic.org but it's quite advanced maybe we'll make something more simple on that =)

[@eliaspetrov]

Go is magic! Thank you!

[@GoMagic]

Haha yeah! 😇

[@darknightplayz2688]

This is the best go teacher 😆

[@GoMagic]

Thank you 🥰

[@maarten9222]

Fun game, thanks for sharing.

[@GoMagic]

=)

[@ΣπύροςΜαυρίκας]

Great great video thank you 👍!!!

[@GoMagic]

Game reviews are a bit longer but they also cover lots of useful things! =)

[@playboydreamboy9874]

Hello! Do you have more content regardless of paid or free with commented games. I find it invaluable for a beginner to understand the flow of the game. One of the things that helped me understand chess on another level and I would love to repeat this adventure with go. Also the method of explanation is perfect. You are a great teacher!

[@GoMagic]

Thank you for your kind words! We're planning to make more game review videos.

[@dorchy12]

Thank you! ❤

[@dukedenning]

Black : I'm taking a corner White : So I am Black : I'll take another corner White : Aight ,same here Black : I'm invading your sweet lil' house White : lol you aggressive mofo

[@GoMagic]

That's the game of Go!

[@romanmykhaylov5138]

Great content, kudos to all of your team

[@GoMagic]

Thank you!

[@swagteck8925]

What a twist

[@GoMagic]

That was from backstage footage, and that was Vadim's genuine reaction. =)

[@jonathany1240]

oh no here comes komi with the steel chair!!!!

[@alexf0101]

great stuff

[@GoMagic]

😇

[@Spoodabandit]

When u asked in the beginning who looks like they have more territory I was like well it appears black does but whites gona win😅😂

[@GoMagic]

😁

[@Exitus1919]

hello! I really like your content and will watch many videos more :) How do you suggest to learn the game, while being two complete beginners? I'm just a little bit unsure about the rules, and if we play everything correct...

[@GoMagic]

Starting out with Go as two beginners is a great way to learn together 😊 My suggestion would be to start with the basics and focus on just enjoying the game at first. You might want to watch some beginner tutorials on our platform (they are free) together to get a better grasp of the rules. We have an article that will guide you: gomagic.org/beginners-guide/

[@Exitus1919]

@@GoMagic already did that, but I'm still uncertain about different things, rules and stuff. Well, yesterday I almost won a game (0.5 difference) and that shows, that I'm on a good way :)

[@GoMagic]

Well, if you still have questions, try reaching out our support team ("Any questions" button on our platform) 👍

[@TheDrivefaster]

I would really want to know what are those stones you are using?

[@GoMagic]

Vadim uses Jang Stone II (Shin Kwang Baduk Korean glass stones). They are made from a high-quality material that emulates the feel and sound of traditional slate and shell stones.

[@TheDrivefaster]

@GoMagic thank you for the reply :)

[@thequantummechanicinfinito6318]

it seems as though capturing the dead black stone on the 4th line could have been useful on at least two occasions. Is there a reason white left it? ty

[@GoMagic]

These players are not 8 dan! =) They make quite a few mistakes, but in the video Vadim wasn't trying to show every mistake and misread... he was just commenting on what was happening to give the viewers better understanding of the game flow.

[@thequantummechanicinfinito6318]

i'm probably an upper teens k, so im just trying to keep up!! these are helpful and easy to watch, thank you@@GoMagic

[@SengokuKg]

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[@yamanee7499]

7:34 interestingly enough when I actually tried to evaluate the score I got around 42 for black while white has around 34 + 6.5 = 40.5 so it is not that obvious who's leading, even though at first glance black seems to win hard. Never understimate komi !

[@GoMagic]

Yeah, estimating the score with precision is not the simplest task!

[@zijun9663]

why white has 6.5 point of compensation?😢(im a noob of Go)

[@GoMagic]

Since Black plays first, they have a slight initial advantage: they can occupy the corners first, they can attack first, etc. In order to make up for this, it was decided that White gets 6.5 points of compensation. The fractional value allows to avoid a tied game. Such compensation is called komi. You can learn the rest of the rules from this article: gomagic.org/how-to-play-go-rules/

[@zijun9663]

@@GoMagic thank you but does it work on 9 by 9 board? If it does that's too op for white

[@GoMagic]

It does, and since the board is smaller, Black's first move affects the game even more.

[@davidmeijer1645]

Why does white get 6.5 points Komi? That seems like a lot!

[@GoMagic]

Then again, the first move is also worth a lot. It was the result of a lot of trial and error. Komi started from 2 or 3 points back in the 20th century and gradually went up to 6.5

[@mattt180]

@@GoMagic I'd imagine fair compensation would depend on the skill of the players too, right? To relate it to something I'm more familiar with, first move in chess has an advantage, but only at the highest levels. For beginners, it matters much less.

[@MrJesuispierre]

I must have missed something, isn't this a 12 x 12 board?

[@GoMagic]

You need to count the lines, not the squares =)

[@delboy1727]

That looked fascinating, but I didn't understand a single thing of what was going on.

[@GoMagic]

We have a tutorial kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYu3lYdugraYrs0

[@pokerchannel6991]

there is deceptively a lot to a small board game of 9x9 or 13x13. I mean, with the complexities of 13x13, I really don't even feel that a 19x19 is even a needed thing. You could play a lifeitme of 13 x 13 at the highest level and never run out of awe and wonder. Humans don't really need 19x19. AI might, but humans could have stopped at 13 x 13. heck even 9x9 has 10^170 positions. And that in and of itself is more atoms than there is in the entire universe. So, even 9x9 is a lot and will never be sovled.

[@GoMagic]

True, but I don't think we needed 19x19 for its complexity. I think that a lot of that has to do with just the scope and the added strategic dimension. Suddenly you get the feeling of managing multiple tasks and battles at the same time. 13x13 doesn't offer you much of that.

[@josiaswando9561]

I didnt undestand when the players know They didnt had more valid moves and the games over.

[@GoMagic]

In Go players determine that the game is over when both players agree that there are no more beneficial moves to make. In the end the game reaches a point where both players believe that placing any more stones would not be advantageous. This typically occurs when all territories are fully surrounded, and further moves would either be pointless or detrimental.

[@CoachGoop]

1:18 I'd probably respond with what the heck man.

[@jesusistheopendoor]

????

[@GoMagic]

What was so confusing?