Game of Thrones S8E03 Explained

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What happens in Game of Thrones S8E03, The Long Night? What is the meaning behind the end of the Dothraki? What is Bran doing all episode? Why does Melisandre die? What is the meaning of Game of Thrones now that the white walkers are gone?
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[@dubyaw9511]

Jon: Why did the lord of light bring me back? Mel: Your little sister is going to kill the night king and it'll mean a lot to her if you showed up.

[@davidk822]

That's too hilarious!!!

[@BattyButtercup]

apparently The Lord Of Light's big goal was... "oh cool some of my family is alive and showed up for my [sport event], that's nice of them, i guess" no wonder Mel NOPE'd out into the snow

[@01Sunshine234]

this deserves more likes

[@gustavoavelar4846]

Well he brought him back to F*CK her aunt xD

[@colesauve2764]

Hey, he has to be there to show his support, right?

[@icecatti]

"Was the ancient ice demon apocalypse just a warm-up for the real war against a drunk queen and her pal, the horny pirate?" That line got me good.

[@mrtats6590]

Man that line had better writing than S08E03

[@hawkdsl]

That's because that's what the show boiled itself down to... in under two hours... and after 8 years of pretty amazing stuff. E3 felt like it was written by a guy who was doing the Pee Pee dance, and just needed to get it over with so he could run to the bathroom.

[@AdmiralAutism212]

what

[@grubbybum3614]

"Jorah's Khaleesi senses tingle" - lol'd hard

[@IndiaTides]

Yeah...N Night king was there for just killing strongest dothraki army barring one handed Jaime and Sam.

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

AltShiftX: *theorizes about plot using lore, writing talent, and common sense* D&D: "I'm about to ruin this man's whole career"

[@animeballsdeep]

😂

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

😂

[@sandymckinnon9762]

Nothing personal kid

[@leovigild_]

😂

[@joshjohnson2753]

The fans/Reddit theories were 10x better then what we actually got. Helm's Deep My ass lol

[@SOSRick]

"While Arya saves the world Daenerys is crying over Sir Friendzone." Literally lost it there.

[@Patron_TheBoss]

Yeah, that was a pretty solid one. Had me cracking too, Jim!

[@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG]

Ser*

[@SOSRick]

@@HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANGfuck.

[@davemccombs]

Literally? Did you? Like, totally, literally though? Literally, you did?

[@dwoollery]

This made me actually laugh out loud.

[@JoshuaFagan]

I actually admire his restraint here. If I had built a channel out of Game of Thrones lore videos, only to see the show throw all that lore out the window, I'd have been screaming for 21 minutes.

[@Secunda-xt2yx]

Lol seriously.

[@aerojetrocketdyners-2538]

its just like when the mouse thanos snapped a fuck ton of my favourite star wars expanded universe.

[@player9195]

Aha yeah if I was him and had 1 million subs to preach to and built my lively hood on it I’d rip got a new ass

[@singmysin]

Theories are theories for a reason lol

[@honestinsincerity2270]

Alt shift X speaks harshly... Yet truly.

[@blessingike7004]

"John has survived so many unsurvivable situations lately that it's getting hard to care when he's in danger" exactly 😂😂😂

[@saammmy7]

His plot armor over the last few season was so obvious I was actually convinced it would lead up to a plot twist where the Lord of Light was actually legit and directly protected him to fulfill the Azor Ahai prophecy. Turns out it was bad writing all along :/

[@juanfe9210]

@@saammmy7 that is sooo true, I felt so disappointed on this

[@SSPspaz]

The plot armor would've at least been understandable if Jon had ended up being "destined" all along to be this great, prophesied hero that would save all of the world from darkness. But nah. It's Arya, because...reasons.

[@agirlhasnoname8279]

This is too real

[@Madchimpz]

I remember the part when Jon was chasing the Night King and the Night King resurrected all the soldiers that died in the battle, and Jon was completely surrounded. I thought the Night King was allowing them to surrender and the wights weren't going to attack, because there's no way Jon was going to escape that horde of wights. Then a bit later you see he somehow fought them all off and I was so confused.

[@DullFiction]

"We don't have enough food for the Dothraki/Unsullied/Dragons/etc " That got sorted out quickly

[@nolackin60617]

What do dragons eat anyway?

[@MekimaruS]

@@nolackin60617 whatever they want

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

Dull Fiction i nearly snorted water thanks

[@anameyoucantremember]

Sansa = Night King confirmed

[@ki1r0y17]

Dragons gonna have a feast after the episode 3 tho. all those freshly made wights yum

[@dangerjose8240]

"Did Jojen and Hodor and Bran's personality die for _this_ ?" OOF...I felt that.

[@KaladinVegapunk]

I just love how he echoes Maulers great review by joking about how if it cuts away they're safe, the trebuchet and calvary placement is retarded, they don't use the dragons well especially rhaegal, and Jons reee at viserion is silly Maybe it's because they're both British And in next episode ignoring good boy ghost is evil

[@edith1315]

and Summer too!

[@sunnytruckdriver]

You know something's wrong when even AltShiftX can't justify the episode

[@sunnytruckdriver]

@Mihir Kumar Yes very true. The direction and music were outstanding, keeping me on the edge of my seat even tho some stupid shit was going on.

[@starlyghtdrifter66]

But he just did tho?

[@hhh1200]

LOL

[@jahidulmawla677]

Yep

[@YuuKamijo]

@@sunnytruckdriver The music score is the main saving grace of the episode. The direction comes in second. I want to be the fly on the wall as the director and production staff brainstorm this ep. The writing is just awful. Too awful. Edit: I do agree with you.

[@kingbrown5999]

You can actually hear the frustration in his voice at times. I'm glad that Alt Shift X sees the bad with the good.

[@juttamaier2111]

I got the feeling some actors would beg the producers to get killed off so they can concentrate on better parts in other productions now. Who would have thought that the ones who have left the show were the lucky ones!

[@The_Reductionist]

@@juttamaier2111 Yeah, they left it while it was good. "You either die a hero or ...."

[@friedkeenan]

@@The_Reductionist You either die a hero or live long enough to get more than a million dollars per episode

[@biggieb8900]

"Did Jojen and Hodor and Bran's personality die for THIS???" LOL

[@chabri2000]

The worst part, is that hodor probably died again (as a wight) after the night king died

[@The_Reductionist]

@@chabri2000 I was really hoping hodor would have a cameo in that battle. Too bad.

[@MercurialStatic]

The Thenn that Jon killed at the wall makes a cameo.

[@Agent_Ste]

@@MercurialStatic I guess it wasn't him. They probably burned all the people who died in the battle

[@efcdk92]

Just massively pointless plot line. Nice one D&D. You awful hacks.

[@FooBarBash]

"The end of the Dothraki, essentially" ... Until they all get reborn in time for ep 5

[@dariotoska]

And i guess thy dont care about jon killing daenarys anymore

[@borysvengerov3398]

ASX's presumption that Night King can re-spawn is totally justifiable.

[@starlight0313]

@@dariotoska the only explanation is that theyre cloned, meaning there's no blood rider pact or something

[@MaxPwnzer]

If your entire culture is 100 000 people large, and it ends up being reduced to even 5 000, that is the practical end of your culture.

[@TheAurelianProject]

Turns out the Dothraki are the real white walkers all the along raising themselves out of death

[@IgnatiusCaelestis]

The spirals mean all our theories being flushed down the toilet.

[@rankovasek1987]

That is the best explanation I've ever read

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

So the night king was just trolling?

[@kiraf5563]

Hahahahahahahahah

[@ElvisLivesUpstairs]

😂

[@nunoprazeres9434]

The spiral is the same as the anti Christ but in this case anti children of the forest...

[@aymanznt]

"Jorah's khaleesi-sense tingles, and he rushes to help her" good one

[@Animescene23]

Honestly, poor dude. Gave up is life for her, never even had the chance to taste the bad pussay.

[@aymanznt]

@@Animescene23 tbf, no one got a taste of the bad pussay... Cersei made sure of that

[@DeSantiagoDavid]

@@aymanznt bad pussy was so hot

[@Animescene23]

@@aymanznt he didn't need a good girl in the end.

[@michaelclosson68]

Ayman B-Rabbit the power of boners is stronger than the walkers

[@mattking1307]

Love how this entire breakdown starts genuine, and then quickly turns into endless shade about the state of the show's writing.

[@borismuller86]

Matt King this episode had way too much shade.

[@Nebulousart]

Boris Müller yeah, so much shade that it was almost impossible to see anything

[@SpiralSine6]

Anyone else wish that Hermione killed Voldemort in the beginning of book 7, since Harry really should have been focusing on his super important quidditch match against Slytherin, who were the real villains of the story?

[@vovaryan]

There is no point to compare these universes. If Harry Potter was like GoT, Harry would have died in the first book.

[@jito7377]

@@vovaryan Wouln't it be Dumbledore that is in Ned's role? The leading good guy, mentoring the main protagonist. Harry is the choosen one aka Azor. Like Jon he came back from death. That's for the role analogies. Your point was the tone beeing different, right? Because there you've got my full support.

[@Tamlinearthly]

When the show told you, "Fuck prophecy," you should have listened.

[@orlanswf]

@@Tamlinearthly Fans aren't mad because "the prophecy wasn't fulfilled". Fans are mad because ALL the setup for this show was thrown in the trash this season. Arya killing the Night King wouldn't have been a problem if there was enough setup for the event. Melisandre saying "you will close brown eyes, green eyes and blue eyes" isn't enough setup. This line wasn't even originally meant to hint that Arya would join the fight agaisnt the dead, when Melisandre said it to Arya the first time a few seasons ago. The writers conveniently reused that line, just like they intentionally hid or discarded other important hints and plot points, for the sake of having this season make some sort of sense.

[@Tamlinearthly]

@@orlanswf: www.masterclass.com/articles/what-is-a-red-herring-in-writing-definition-of-red-herring-with-examples#:~:text=In%20literature%2C%20the%20definition%20of,going%20on%20in%20the%20plot.

[@paulofreire7520]

“The drunk queen and her pal, the horny pirate” 😂😂😂 Great review and spot on comments. 👍🏻

[@masterexploder9668]

and her pal with a finger in her bum.

[@linkofvev]

At the very least, Euron makes for a very enjoyable watch when fighting (him slaughtering Dany's navy was definitely a highlight of that season).

[@Wayoutthere]

@@linkofvev Ok, ONE thing I give him credit for is BUTCHERING the sand bitches.. God what wasted plotline.

[@unstoppableExodia]

She drinks and she fucks things

[@DrJReefer]

Book Euron: Psychopathic black magic pirate doing all kinds of fucked up shit. Show Euron: That jock asshole everyone wanted to batter at teenage parties.

[@Niwr3hsY4h00]

D&D: “we hoped to kind of avoid the expected” Fans: “we expected better”

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Did they pull a Rian Johnson?

[@brightgarinson3099]

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi Yep.

[@RandomCellist21]

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi Unfortunately. Tempted to boycott the rest of the show, Hopefully GRRM comes up with a better ending.

[@imcarolean]

Season 7 and 8 has been a dumpster fire, hopefully ep 4-6 saves it

[@wavy9434]

Should've had Hot Pie kill the NK then if being unexpected is such good writing.

[@ryandavis7070]

Hodor had a better backstory than the Night King.

[@jernie9384]

:(

[@BosshafterAccount]

After all he was more useful then Jon.

[@Tormentor60]

@@BosshafterAccount Well... He didn't. He died to save Bran. Who done nothing in the "Great War"

[@BosshafterAccount]

@@Tormentor60 yes but at least he was the bait. So you can say he prepared the bait. What did Jon? Give the nk a dragon. Flying with a dragon. Yelling to a dragon. And sacrifice 2 armys he brought. 😂

[@Tormentor60]

@@BosshafterAccount All in All i fucking hate this ep.... It totally killed rewatchability for me.

[@0mnicide]

Winter is coming Winter is coming Winter is coming Winter is he- CERSEI IS COMING CERSEI IS COMING CERSEI IS CO- DANY IS COMING

[@Axel_Kasai]

It feels like they could've cut 4 seasons out of the show if that's all they'd do with the night king buildup

[@jacobmccabe458]

Winter is coming Winter is coming Winter is coming Winter is coming Winter is coming Winter has come winter is here winter is over.

[@hugosantos9081]

I DIED WITH THIS COMMENT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thepiperreport8198]

It's a scary comment when you realized they did this all in 6 episodes. Maybe in 3 seasons of 10 episodes a piece they could have worked it out so it didn't feel like a rushed shitshow.. But Dumb and Dumber aren't the brightest crayons in the box

[@wrigglenight93]

Turns out the Iron Throne wasn't a shiny distraction drawing the eyes of those with power away from a true enemy, one which will only grow stronger through each of their petty squabbles. No it was the point the entire time

[@pitti_K]

Jorahs "Khaleesi Sense" tingles. Brilliant! Best summary of the relationship between the two.

[@HarukaNUsagi]

@@raminolta Do you have anything to contribute to society?

[@trubberdox]

@@HarukaNUsagi That is exactly what happened, we can see Jorah looking to wards the direction the sound came from and started running.

[@titoj.2415]

I have seen this EP 5 times and Jorah heard Drogon.

[@trubberdox]

@@HarukaNUsagi Well people need to find the prettiest reasons to hate innit?

[@billboardbraggins1443]

@@trubberdox Ikr at least hate the EP because of the stupid battle plans, dothraki suicide charge, all important characters plot armour surviving 10+ impossible situations, the night king being a disappointing villain that contributed nothing to the overall story, all theories going down the drain, bran playing crow simulator all episode, theon suicide charging instead of taking a defensive position to defend bran to the last, Arya materializing from thin air (still the best thing in thi ep despite being executed poorly), basically turning the show supposed to be "full of unexpected and sudden events" into another hollywood popcorn flick. I mean what's to hate really ? At least Melisandre was a good character all along and had a good ending.

[@zeba265]

"Jorah's khaleesi sense tingled " I LAUGHED WAY TOO HARD

[@davidmendenhall9864]

Sir "friend zone" lmao

[@W00KER]

I can actually feel you struggling to not be negative.

[@josiahcmiller]

He’s been holding it back for years. But now everyone will see. You can’t hide it anymore.

[@enriquepiquim.6245]

The end remarks are highly bitching, tbh, it's called Game of Thrones after all and the show got most of their viewers thanks to the heavy political drama and gore aftermath. The book series are titled in a whole other sense, tho. 3 episodes left, we will see.

[@VV-qo7ee]

Let's be honest. There was going to be criticism no matter what the ending was or will be. Imagine Jon and Dany bravely fighting and getting to the wood at the last moment to kill the Night King and save the world. An entire army of angry fans would have rage because of the predictability of that ending. To be honest I liked the episode. I liked the fact that Arya killed him. It would've been more epic if she would've died while killing him though. Just my opinion.

[@gqdaddy8544]

@FairUseMe - lol - I read your post in the voice of Emperor Palpatine... and added "give in, give in to the negative side and feel your POWER growwwwwww..."

[@Ceros64]

​@@enriquepiquim.6245 The original series is called "A Song of Ice and Fire", not Game of Thrones. The show is an adaptation of the entire book series, and simply took the name of the first book and stuck with it. The main themes from the books were still very prominent in the show, until they stopped adapting from the books. If the book series was completed before the show began, I have no doubt that these last 2-3 seasons would have been written very differently.

[@BlackStar-sw2nf]

They treated Night King like a generic russian villain in those hollywood movies.

[@winstonknowitall4181]

@ Black Star "They treated Night King like a generic russian villain" Maybe that's the reason for Night King to have the face of Vladimir Putin.

[@juliannkretonn4623]

Also played by a Russian hahaha

[@borysvengerov3398]

@@juliannkretonn4623 constant grumpy face - make-up holds better.

[@juliannkretonn4623]

@@borysvengerov3398 da

[@TheShut1]

@@juliannkretonn4623 Hey, Slovakian actor, not Russian. Even though both are slavs, it's still huge difference.

[@notyoongs3524]

Guess Shireen got burned alive for nothing if Mel had known since season 3 that Arya will end the Long Night.

[@WorkingClassZombie]

Pretty much. It makes Jon's resurrection pointless also.

[@otm646]

Eh, you could argue Shireen's death grew Mel's power and clout.

[@SoleNero21]

Why did stannis got rekt ? Where was Ramsays 20 good men when jon came to winterfell?

[@rana1561]

Melissandre's visions are not like script pages, explaining everything in details. Mostly her visions we're collection of images, a puzzle, which she tries to solve, connecting the dots in the real world. She took her time

[@SoleNero21]

@@rana1561 That's the line she has to use to cover up the bad writing

[@ceramicholiness]

I had a mouthful of beer when “Jorah’s Khaleesi sense is tingling” happened. Mistakes were made.

[@BattyButtercup]

Sir Amihck yeah but that "ser friendzoned" bit took me a rewatch to catch BECAUSE MY BRAIN JUST ACCEPTED IT AS FACT WITHOUT QUESTION

[@LucarioZ1]

Good luck cleaning your keyboard

[@finnfigure]

It is known.

[@TR1GR4MPR0DUCT10N5]

Jon: We need to kill the Night- Dothraki: Kill the night? Say no more boss

[@Raggepagge]

Leeeeerooooy...

[@jesse5609]

ragnargrinde93 JENKINS

[@stevepalpatine2828]

Hound: Least I have Chicken...

[@MarauderM00gi]

More like these Dothraki who knew nothing weren't given the tools to survive.

[@TR1GR4MPR0DUCT10N5]

@@MarauderM00gi By the writers

[@Hank..]

I'm glad you brought up Ned's death, because for me it was an important moment for the show's stakes. I remember seeing Joffrey order his death and thinking "this is just stupid. How are they gonna possibly get him out of this?" And they dont. He dies, and the show establishes its rules: real consequences for actions. Abandoning that helped destroy the show

[@dingledoody]

D&D: "We don't know how to end your story" GRRM: "Trick them with the disappointing end"

[@captainhoratiobungleiii7147]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@hmark03]

More like GRRM: "Oh well I cant finish any books in less then a decade, but you should in a few years. Good luck suckers."

[@flankspeed]

Well played 😂

[@Lagspikee]

GRRM secretly wants the TV series to fail, so people get closure in the books instead, right?

[@hmark03]

@Annalisa Zucchi What do you mean?

[@ianfowler7787]

Berick dies in front of the only person in the seven kingdoms that could possibly resurect him (Melisandre) and she's like "lol, bye"...

[@Ezoriel666]

exactly my thoughts, Sir.

[@IndiaTides]

Yeah. His job was to be save arya single time which anybody can do and die there as second rate Hodor.

[@eternalreign2313]

@@tomythomson How did she know that was his purpose though? She didn't even try. They should have had her try and fail, then say he served his purpose. For all she know his purpose was to kill the NK. Although to be fair, why didn't the lord of light nominate a better survivor, like Sam lol? The LoL had to rez him 6 freaking times.

[@gregorygregio2614]

his purpose was to become a beric-ade

[@manasfcb]

Gods you are a good man

[@falconranger3116]

This has come to the point where I am more excited about ASX breakdown even for shitty episodes than for actual episode itself. ASX.. thanks for existing.

[@guilhermesantos8728]

You know why I like this review/rant? It's subdued. No raging, no screeching, just neutral tone sarcasm and skepticism

[@omarahmedx]

This episode had so much plot armor, Sean Bean would've survived it.

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

Nice copy paste

[@thebrickseller]

@@TypicallyUniqueOfficial nIcE cOpY pAsTe

[@IndiaTides]

This episode had so much plot armor, Sean bean would have survived game of thrones, LOTR and James bond combined.:-)

[@abhishekpawar5126]

@@TypicallyUniqueOfficial nice copy paste

[@sonnic1995]

If they did this kind of shit from start, at Ned's execution Siryo Forel would have jumped out from nowhere with a cocky smile on his face while he kills Ser Ilyn Payne

[@Matteus2109]

Honestly, at this point, I anticipate Alt Shift's videos more than the actual episodes.

[@SnazzyPuke]

That's always been the case for me

[@cortez1098]

I like Alt-Shift-X, /r/FreeFolk and /u/ChrysWatchesGot more than the last 3 seasons of the show...

[@SliverHell]

BIG FACTZ

[@matuzaato]

Yeah I just want the show to just end at this point, get this over with. It's so bad

[@jfilms6106]

No way. He would have nothing to talk about without the episodes.

[@xTooma]

It's amazing how you can kill nearly a decade of hype and excitement in only 90 minutes.

[@solarmaru49]

xTooma I think it’s more amazing the number of sheep that exist in this world who thought this was a “perfect” episode We’re a failing species

[@HistoriaSuccess]

^

[@otterhero6229]

@@solarmaru49 don't be such an elitist. Some people don't have this self destructive attitude to hate whatever happens in the show irregardless of the quality. Just learn to enjoy shit, even if there are mistakes. There are still positives

[@littlekettle5759]

Otter Hero Amen!

[@lucasm7093]

solarmaro49 The people who thought it was an amazing episode , are the same people who only started watching it 2 years ago

[@randomname3709]

The thing that pissed me off the most is that how proud Daenerys was on season 7 while she was talking to Jon Snow about how she was the first one in the history to convince the Dothraki to cross the narrow sea. And yet she just sacrificed them without even any benefits coming from it.

[@tonguepunchyourfartbox7680]

But they come back to life when she burned Kong’s landing lol

[@themurmeli88]

In LOTR, the urukhai and orcs ravaged the entire land of middle earth. In GoT, the ice-satan was stopped at his homes threshold. This is like if Sauron never got any of his forces and influence past Osgiliath. Maybe the ice wall was never meant to keep walkers in, but people out, from murdering the fragile endangered species of ice-cube-people.

[@-XTD-]

@@DrHeroe chill

[@The_Reductionist]

To be fair, it is called "Winter-Fell"

[@MJ-js1be]

i.redd.it/0oiskeq3kew21.jpg

[@wtxcrazydonut]

Ah here in fairness Sauron lost at the first major city too, Minas Tirith is basically LotR's Winterfell. Osgiliath would be more like The Last Hearth.

[@freedomfighter22222]

@@wtxcrazydonut Osghiliath is much alrger than minas tirith and was/is the capital of Gondor, Minas Tirith was just the western watch tower and minas Ithil(later renamed to Minas Morgul by Saurons forces) was the eastern watch tower. Minas Tirith was really the last possible place to stop the advance of Saurons forces after Gondor having lost most of its pride over decades with slowly loosing the war and loosing much of their most prosperous lands around Osgiliath. Sauron never being able to take Minas Ithil would be comparable to Winterfell, the battle of Minas Tirith would be more comparable to the Night King being stopped somewhere in the riverlands.

[@hugo_warriormckenzie7102]

Let's hope the Hound finds Melisandre's necklace and gets a lovely new face!

[@lee-anlu6946]

yes lets hope so

[@fifthofascalante7311]

hugo_warrior interesting idea.

[@blueish2]

I thought the necklace makes the user young adult not necessarily prettier? And Hound got the scar when he was a kid.

[@HarukaNUsagi]

I don't think the necklace works anymore because the jewel stopped glowing at the end.

[@libertydiwa2198]

🤣😍

[@honestinsincerity2270]

Arya not only managed to kill a supernatural threat but she was able to kill any anticipation I previously held for Sunday nights. Those faceless men really are powerful.

[@jon_ovo3653]

Honestly AV 2 I’m not even excited for tomorrow lmao it literally ate my soul the way that shit ended

[@lastmexicano]

I’m expecting tomorrow to be another filler episode, that leads into another battle. Predicable

[@jon_ovo3653]

lastmexicano facts

[@GoToSleep1993]

Broooo i mean, whadya expect from a kickass assassin that was only trained for like 1 year dude, of course she's gonna be god tier

[@legion160]

@@GoToSleep1993 why even bother with the battle.... why not just send arya to kill the NK or Cersei, she can apparently appear out of thin air and teleport and shit -_-

[@Upright777]

Bran comes back from warg mode and looks to Theon: "I know Kung-fu" Theon: "Show me." Bran proceeds to 1v1 Night King the end.

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

Night King: "Stop *trying* to hit me and *hit* me!"

[@rosesongoku6980]

Good ending, thank you!

[@dustinalvarez4917]

Brooo 1000 time better then what happen in the series

[@bakratos23230]

The Season 8 jokes are always great.

[@monty6338]

Lmao

[@joshcorbett4787]

The best part was when like 40 wights died to reveal pod, Brienne and Jaime up against a wall. They must of had top of the line plot armour.

[@jey4k]

Nivag Nadrog or fatso Sam lying on the ground crying and still outliving the whole of the Dothraki army and most of the unsullied army.

[@darthkek1953]

Bearing in mind they'd already been OVERRUN by wights.

[@alex-un2un]

Podrick, Sam, and at least one of the kind of notable characters(gilly....missandei) in the crypts should’ve died(even the little shireen girl....I mean cmon)

[@rkr8686]

Nivag Nadrog it was probably made out of the rock that Jon used to hide and block the zombie dragons fire

[@KamikazeChinaman]

The best a hacksmith could forge.

[@theshiddler1640]

To be honest, I wanted the Night King to win and kill everyone. THAT would subvert expectations.

[@kw5961]

Me too. The characters are so petty and greedy for power. Would have been better if the Night King had won.

[@mochilamistica7001]

And the final battle should be the deads vs cersei and euron's army, for sure.

[@edgyweeb1317]

yea, would be great to see them beat cersei taking the throne and then just be killed by the night king anyway.

[@GrahamSiggins]

Baynos I’m honestly hoping that Cersei wins the war and then Bran makes a new night king (maybe himself?) to start a new cycle

[@hackzein4138]

@@GrahamSiggins ya and then cerceis like i win and then she dies too and its like the end and the night king looks at the camera and porky pig comes out and says 'thats all folks!'

[@Dorkeydaze]

This review was low key a roast and it was hilarious I just wanted to say thanks for all the likes. YT is my main source of entertainment and I put a lot of effort into my comments, but this one was honestly pretty stupid I almost feel bad that this got so many likes; but none the less thank you

[@Gideon_the_Seraph]

havent seen it yet but glad to know where alt shift x's opinion stands on this shit episode!

[@danielonley7684]

Well deserved too, it was so rushed and the tension contrived. I miss season 2 ;-;

[@G33KST4R]

low key? if this was any higher you'd need a cherry picker to get to it.

[@michaelcallahan8412]

*high key. High af key.

[@TR1GR4MPR0DUCT10N5]

I miss 3,000 Unsullied being able to break 20,000 Dothraki screamers

[@katyalupochev9589]

“Most of Daenerys’ Army is gone” In E04: “Half are gone.” OK OK OK OKOKOKOKOKOKOKOK

[@edd8914]

Respawnki

[@unformedeight]

Dany kinda forgot the rest of the army in her back pocket

[@viyhexe131]

Like, what the fuck does continuity matter anyways? It's not like people want shit to make sense.

[@rosesongoku6980]

In E06: "In this episode, we thought we'd bring 'em... doth-backi." - Carolyn Strauss, Executive Producer ("Safety Patrol")

[@alphagamer9505]

E05 - uullouullouluouluoulo

[@SK22520]

And the sad part is, the writers actually made us wait an entire extra year for the “long awaited final season” so that they could do the best job they could and not make the audience disappointed with haste writing.... and now they’ve disappointed us with bad writing... and I wouldn’t be surprised if this was haste writing as well. At least it looks like that. So sad.

[@lucasphilm7484]

Not haste. Hack. George RR Martin, they are not.

[@krystinblack7628]

It took an extra year because of production, not writing. You also have to keep in mind that whatever they write, HBO gets the final say in everything because they decide what they can pay for, what they'd rather pay for and what they'd rather not bother with. If they wrote quickly, it's because they had to make deadlines so that people could start planning for production which, I'm sure you can imagine, would be crazy amounts of work and very time consuming. Also, remember there are 3 episodes left and it will be easier to judge this episode in the grand scheme of things later.

[@SK22520]

Krystin Black that’s true! Let’s hope now that the remaining episodes are good and maybe involve a good plottwist or anything. We need it haha

[@MyaB1986]

And they took all that sweet time to record in 3 locations /facepalm What is happening to Tullys why weren't they summoned to the notrh? Who is in charge of remaining...4 kingdoms? Or are the people there just relaxing aboug enjoying the winter?

[@timmyg497]

HBO had a contract with Amazon that when any series finished, Amazon could air it on Prime Video. That contract expired at the end of 2018. So my guess is it wasn’t the more time for writing but the massive amounts of money it would save HBO by not going to Prime.

[@Flame1500]

My guy Bran really just watched the whole episode along with us...

[@mn-ru4li]

That's not true. Bran's like, I'm not watching this shit. I'm warging outta here!

[@MD-np2nk]

Hopefully he had better lighting

[@kyndread71]

Korean women are the hottest.

[@chuck430]

he too knew this was BS and was outta here

[@maneliste]

Do you think he achieved his destiny ? Hope he still has stuff to do

[@AICabal]

Anyone else feel like they just beat the end boss, and now they're backtracking to take on the side boss?

[@TheSorrel]

Optional bosses are often harder than final bosses. But seriously, though, maybe the whole epilogue with Cercei will lead somewhere that actually strikes the heart of what this show was always about.

[@thelegendarycrow2883]

@@TheSorrel I wish, but after all this night king stuff for 7 seasons, I would be lying if I said its a whole lot more interesting than cersei ever was, even more so now that she is just a pregnant alcoholic.

[@j4genius961]

@@TheSorrel We still have 3 episodes, hopefully Alt shif is right and they're just playing with us and some big plot twist happens who knows, miracles happen

[@mirawenya]

Definitely not.

[@xavigarcia9372]

@@thelegendarycrow2883 i don't know man, i'm sure if you count the screen time the show has Focus in cercei it would more than they has Focus in the night King storyline

[@Teddy_yb]

*You know what is the most shocking about the Dothraki charge?* None of the Dothraki had dragon glass or valyrian steel. They were planning on charging them in alone and with no actually useful weapons.

[@MissBabyFace1000]

Yeah, it is actually pretty fucked up.

[@tyrannus1987]

Even more fucked up. She owned the mine to make weapons for her soldiers she could've been making weapons all along.

[@Secondaccount31]

@@tyrannus1987 yeah but she didnt know about the dead before and that dragonglass could kill them. So no point in making dragonglass weapons before. Also she literally made it to dragonstone like 4 episodes before jon so.

[@Secondaccount31]

Yeah they were planning on sending them to their deaths. Even if they had bran explain that the red witch has other plans for the dothraki, i would understand but the writers are not as smart

[@georgelionon9050]

Maybe Danny is just *that* stupid and it was a ploy to get rid of her army? Well still didn't make any sense... since even if, it would have strengthed the enemy, the one that was supposed to matter...

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

This was the most passive-aggressive videos I've ever seen.

[@RaidsEpicly]

It's hard not to bring up all the massive issues somehow when he's discussing the entire episode in such depth

[@RonasD94]

good

[@restropot1305]

Hello there

[@Dolorousian]

How and why are you everywhere?

[@deknahnegh8129]

So uncivilized

[@bearencounter3184]

10:18 “Khaleesi sense tingles” 😂😂😂That had me cracking up

[@Bettafish2601]

Jon in season 5: no army can stop them!! First army the dead encounter stops them.

[@Alegost1]

it would´ve been kind of interesting if the white walkers won that battle and then came to kings landing to meet cercei with their army + everyone that was in the north including the other 2 dragons..... i wonder what would cercei then think

[@broadcast3ful]

The army didnt stop them. They ran through the army. Arya killed the NK. Maybe watch the episode again, kid.

[@vknl99]

broadcast3ful arya was part of the army, so yes, it did stop them

[@Burbin7995]

Queue It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia Theme.

[@tomjones6944]

@@broadcast3ful lol, who is the kid? Come back and apologize for being snarky and then admit to being put in your place; ya doofus! You got wrecked by someone named Lil Juggz lmao

[@whbi-senpai1085]

What do we say to a good ending Not today

[@mukwati]

NOT TODAY!

[@mariobrohter]

OH GOD

[@abderrahimabderrahim6659]

Lol!

[@charlesforee7082]

So Arya's ninja training gave her the skills to drag that trampoline into the Godswood undetected, but didn't include a hint that screaming "EEEEEYAAAAA!" as you sneak up behind your target is a really bad idea?

[@miguelguerrero3394]

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Why on Earth would she scream when sneaking behind the NK? Also I'm having a hard believing that she could sneak past hundreds of undead and night walkers in plain sight but had a hard time escaping a library with like 10 zombies (she even had to be saved)

[@inthecouchproductions8103]

Her plan was to get caught and then switch the dagger to other hand once the NK thought he had stopped her. So I don't see why it's so difficult for people to understand the scream being part of that. She knew she wasn't going to just jump on his back and stab him. She had to have a trick maneuver. Come on, y'all. This shit ain't that hard.

[@JohnJames0204]

@@inthecouchproductions8103 If NK was that good then surely he wouldn't have gotten stab the second time. Ops ouchie owie more plot holes. Keep trying to defend this nonsense, you'll get there.... probably.

[@zrusit9640]

@@inthecouchproductions8103 he should have snaped her neck and you know it, there was no way to kill him, yet she did because dumb and dumber are really living to their names xD

[@littlekettle5759]

John James “If NK was that good then surely he wouldn’t have gotten stab the second time” Well clearly not cause he did get stabbed. He got caught off guard, that’s why he didn’t kill her immediately and that’s why he was too slow to stop the second attempt on his life. Arya: EHHHHHH NK: NANI Arya: pew pew

[@RikoDiko]

Bran : I hold the world's memory and history The Citadel : Am I a joke to you?

[@1chroust12]

Great point 😃 Makes everything even worse

[@marshhinsane9749]

Actually the citadel records their own version of it. Bran knows the truth...

[@jernie9384]

Yeah, it's implied that the Citadel are conspirators. Also, Books and History is always written by Winners and usually doesn't tell the entire truth.

[@RikoDiko]

@@jernie9384 that's a fair point that bran can go back in time and look and the undeniable truth, where as the citadels history is passed down through generations and can get distorted overtime.

[@jernie9384]

MMA Dispatch Alt Shift made an interesting video about this. The Archmasters seemingly want to abolish Magic, so I would love to see what happens when they hear about Bran.

[@towel9646]

I now realize I was team night king the whole time

[@Thechezbailey]

There's room on the Team Cersei bandwagon >:)

[@karolina2cute4u]

Lmao, so true

[@peterversionone]

I threw my team night king hoodie on the floor when I saw that bullshit ending

[@karolina2cute4u]

I really wanted to see more of him. Wish they had escaped Winterfell and followed the NK south. They could’ve showed the Westerosi what’s up and then killed him.

[@peterversionone]

Karolina Kay you could have had Cersei show up and save them at the last minute and the iron bank soldiers help cover their retreat. Or something

[@melissaveras]

This must have been the hardest review you've done... The snarkiness is at maximum level.

[@scottmantooth8785]

set at 11 because that's what it deserved

[@Rinchen8192]

Arya: Do I know where the Night king is? Dungeon Master: The plan was to lure him into the Godswood, so probably yes. Arya: I'm going to try to sneak in an stab him. Dungeon Master: Sure, but you'll need to roll a Natural 20. Arya: *Rolls a natural 20. Night King: F%#k this stupid game.

[@ecartht5858]

This is the most accurate depiction of the events at Godswood.

[@dasaggropop1244]

They were playing with sixers die from rick and morty all along

[@FrntRow]

The DM should have called failure for moving too far in 1 turn. She must have also rolled a critical success on her Acrobatics.

[@MinscS2]

The NK did have -5 perception because he wasn't actively looking, -5 perception because of Bran's soulcrushing stare, and -2 because Arya is small. He never stood a chance...

[@HarukaNUsagi]

hahaha... but yeah, Arya was there when they were making their plans about luring the Night King to the godswood by using Bran as bait.

[@advaithbala]

19:23 Screw that, even Olly killed more main characters than the Night King.

[@meris8486]

Oof

[@TWlakers24]

Wow I didn’t even think about that 😂 Olly could kill Jon but not the Night King!

[@rockingbirdey]

Fuck Olly

[@Link00TMM]

@@rockingbirdey The amount of satisfaction I got from seeing his cold, asphyxiated rat face hanging in the breeze was almost as great as Joffrey's death lel

[@connorbrennan501]

@@rockingbirdey Fuck Olly

[@JohnAzzi430]

"Just like in the Phantom Menace" Tell us your true feelings Shift X

[@lathanandrews417]

John Azzinaro bahahaha right?! 😂

[@stevangucu522]

I think the poor guy is like a Vulcan, suppressing feelings for the greater good of objectivity and logic, and using occasional sarcasm to show disappointment.

[@zizoumonk10]

The alien mothership trope

[@athena3268]

Or just like The Lord Of The Rings... when Sauron died his Nazgul died too.

[@calliph]

@@athena3268 but his nazgul actually got to do shit before they died.

[@pakkenpk5598]

Just recently rewatched this. Man, the lack of tactical ability in literally anyone except whoever dug those trenches is astounding. It's like the last semi-intelligent battle plan was the Battle of the Bastards.

[@chavitanwar2126]

What are you saying? The battle of the bastards was an excellent battle plan. From Ramsay's side of course.

[@criert135]

To be fair, it’s already kinda well established that Jon is absolute dog shit at battle planning. His battle with Ramsey was a complete mess and it was a miracle he got bailed out of that disaster. So he’s just in character screwing up the battle against the Whitewalkers as well

[@fargoflagrant7796]

if arya is the embodiment of death, jon is the embodiment of plot armor

[@colinsowka1459]

Sam really gives him a run for his money though. Jon fights to survive, Sam can cry and repel the army of the dead piling up on top of him. If that's not plot armor, I don't know what is ahah.

[@lucasphilm7484]

Normally I'd agree. But Jon wouldn't even be in the running for the award for most plot armor in this episode. Anyone on the ground that survived would be a far better candidate.

[@LoneyMutuma]

What about Cersei?? she literally lost her whole army in the siege of high garden she has no allies out of gold mines but still comes up with ways to fool even the most clever people on the show.Even her little tricks got to have a limit.

[@irfankhalil9225]

Arya is also the embodiment of plot armour!!

[@ag-bf3ty]

Arya isn't the embodiment of Death imo. She is a blasphemer against Death. Her lust for vengeance will have consequences. Just as it did when she was training in the HoB&W, and Jaqen had to drink the poison to redress the balance for her crimes against their god. So I don't think her killing the Night King is the victory she thinks it is...

[@zacthomas2847]

I'm just disappointed that they set multiple characters up against insurmountable odds and then just kept them alive with near zero explanation.

[@dclaunch10]

sorry

[@austinwallace5993]

Yeah, sam should 100% be dead right now.

[@TheShauNanigans]

@@austinwallace5993 I was hoping Sam would die in battle and Gilly would die in the crypt. If either of them are alive at the end, I will not be pleased. I don't care about the kid. It would've made more sense to kill Sam, because after that Bran is the only person alive who knows the truth in a believable way. Unless Jon knows exactly where the scroll is from the citadel.

[@andamoonforthesky]

Melisandre just offed herself at the end cause it'd be hella awkward if she was still getting prophecies wrong this late in the show.

[@Shorkshire]

She straight up pulled a "Luke Skywalker" 😂

[@blastermaster5009]

Always go out while you're on top. lol

[@thegrayyernaut]

Oh shit what you said made so much sense! :)))

[@romanmagizow6962]

@Daniel Sullivan that was a retcon by the writers nothing more...

[@thegrayyernaut]

@Daniel Sullivan Did she also say something about Azor Ahai fighting the Great Other? (or was it in the book only? I can't remember). Said to both Stannis and Jon.

[@georginho36]

You were killed by: Xx_Arya_xX Respawning in: 12 seconds

[@rosesongoku6980]

I actually WISH that happened.

[@thegreyeyedcat9142]

Reminds me of my gambit experience

[@boonsaplenty3924]

I know I'm late to this but Arya's gamertag would 100% have been Xx_Dark_Sister_II_xX after Visenya's sword

[@HAsHoOoMe123]

jon to dothrakis : do you prefer to attack first or wait for your enemies to show dothrakis : Yes

[@_MRK87]

you had a good idea but executed it poorly

[@DeadKraken]

Dothraki: We'd like to do like you did in season 6 Jon: Oh, attack blindly and getting everyone killed then! Dothraki: YEAH!

[@taintlessproductions]

It is known.

[@overdramatic8206]

I really believed that you gonna just pretend that 8x03 never existed and go directly to 8x04.

[@GingGo2]

that would have been pretty fair

[@jonathancohen8791]

What makes you think 8x04 will be any better?

[@TheTrailerMasher]

@@jonathancohen8791 would be difficult for it to be worse

[@Asterius_101]

Stop your whinging

[@Radiance230]

Lol. I thought this honestly!!

[@jamesalexander1441]

Jon screaming at the undead dragon in enraged frustration is the fanbase screaming at D&D for the same reasons.

[@MJ-js1be]

i.redd.it/0oiskeq3kew21.jpg

[@gedeonnunes5626]

Though both take place in a fatastic medieval setting, I don't get why Dungeons & Dragons should be blamed for anything.

[@Coalemos]

That was utterly retarded. How could he know his plot armour would save him? These last second saves are an absolute joke at this point.

[@Coalemos]

@@natehorne1763 what are you talking about? Is he psychic, too? How could he have possibly known what Arya was going to do? That screaming at the zombie dragon should have been his end. But no, plot armour to the rescue. See if he's just going to survive everything, why just NOT have him put in unsurvivable positions to start with. Why not just have him do anything else other than be saved at the very last instant again and again and again? Part of the appeal of this show was how your actions had consequences. It was cringe worthy af when Jon did that. I actually felt embarrassed for Kit Harrington.

[@MrColin541]

@@natehorne1763 Yeah, no he wasn't. Watch again with subtitles. If that's not enough, consider that unless Arya can literally teleport then helping her get past wouldve still been far too late to get out to the godswood, sneak past as she somehow did and then leap. All before he draws his weapon.

[@TheHigherSpace]

You missed smth else very funny .. after they lit up the trenches, they all stopped and just looked at the wights .. no arrows no nothing .. stayed like that till the night king started pushing the wights onward .. then they started screaming "MAN THE WALLS" loool ... I was like, wait, you didn't man the wall before ? who the hell is leading these people !!

[@francmonroe3485]

D&D

[@Secondaccount31]

You have it wrong. When the fire lit up and the wights were standing there, the army was taking a break. Also they were looking at drogon in all it's glory from front row seats for the first time, they couldn't do that if they were busy manning the walls. Honestly, dont blame them.

[@whitealliance9540]

I got the feeling like they were scared shiitless... I also got the feeling like everyone was tired and gave up on the ending of this episode. Ppl were stressed out on set

[@mosesbrown4126]

omg that bothered the shit out of me. WHY THE FUCK ARE THE WALLS NOT ALREADY MANNED? Just lollering around in the courtyard. Meanwhile the dead sit there-- non moving targets. How many arrow volleys could have gone off in that time? Since they made dragonglass xtra magic in the show and it 1 shots wights, every arrow is a kill.

[@scottmantooth8785]

as if they looked around and said "oh...we're supposed to do something now"

[@Yrenne]

Huge props for going into the flaws with the storytelling in this episode. I hate when people just blindly accept that things are supposed to make sense when they don't. You're the man, Alt Shift X.

[@jernie9384]

r/gameofthrones and, partly, r/freefolk in a Nutshell

[@gingfreecss3467]

Galaxy this bridge4 youtuber is annoyingly positive about this episode. Its obvious hes dishonest. Disgusting

[@SirMordred524]

Personally, I've just come to accept the glaring flaws of the show and enjoy it in a different way. I expect awful writing and dumb moments when watching a new episode, and I laugh at them when they happen. The show is too far gone and there are only three episodes left, so I'm just gonna ride out the rest of the shitstorm and have as much fun with it as I can.

[@Losojostristes]

@@gingfreecss3467 Yeah I honestly respected a lot of his theories and the dedication he put into his videos. To see him disregard all that and immediately buy into the crap that was spewed in s8e3 was just disappointing.

[@Akkadianvolcano]

@@SirMordred524 Yeah seriously after S5 to 7 I wonder what people expected. The themes are still there and interesting but the logic went to shit a long time ago. Why are people still angry about the same things? Lmao

[@aw11348]

Arya Stark's Long, Hard-Fought Campaign Against the Long Night: S8E01: Learns about the Night King and his undead army. S8E02: Learns from Gendry that that they are "bad". S8E03: Destroys the Night King and his undead army. Probably throws her hands up at her brothers afterward, whose entire purpose in the show has been the battling of this great threat, a threat that makes the petty squabbles over who sits on a seat made of swords completely and utterly pointless, only to do a combined not-a-whole-lot in the great clash between living and dead, when the Night King gave her less trouble than the Waif did.

[@tomfancypants]

Good job copying comments

[@meris8486]

It would be interesting if she slowly froze to death then turned into a white walker as a result of being grabbed by the Night King, but that would be interesting, so D&D probably won't do it

[@aw11348]

Credit: www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bj5inp/spoilers_main_arya_starks_long_campaign_against/ I legitimately cannot believe how content the showrunners are to jump the shark on arguably the "biggest" television show to date -- you'd think they'd be more invested in guiding their story to its natural conclusion so it had any chance of standing the test of time.

[@frankg2790]

They spent three seasons foreshadowing Arya killing the Night King. It is not jumping the shark if you follow through on something that you have foreshadowed.

[@aw11348]

@@frankg2790 Actually, D&D said they came up with Arya shanking the Night King about three years ago -- that brings us to when season 7 was in production. "Three seasons" is not at all accurate. If they had truly been planning for Arya to easily nuke their main antagonist and his entire army for such a long time, perhaps they could've taken pains to make it a more satisfying payoff, dontcha think -- instead of embarrassingly half-assing and repurposing an unrelated line from season 3 to make it seem like this had been "prophesied" (which, if true, would just raise more questions).

[@15allnite]

"Jorah's Khaleesi sense tingles"....I nearly spit my drink out from that comment! LOL!!!!

[@shantoripinke1757]

Me too... Alt is sooo petty

[@eternalreign2313]

Ugh, it was so dumb though. Can he speak dragon? How'd he know she was going to be in trouble?

[@Wilantonjakov]

@@shantoripinke1757 what?

[@sitbc]

Oh, boy! Alt Shift X is gonna have a field day with the next episode. Can't wait :)

[@rabiulhasan7728]

Me too.

[@speedrrracer]

I'll be impressed if he can hold it together while describing that peaceful Missandei, of peaceful Naath, where the peaceful people won't even lift a finger in their own defense and who didn't speak even a harsh word against the army of the dead has suddenly channeled her inner Mad King and endorsed the murder of innocent women and children

[@feynstein1004]

@speedrracer Or how 2 fully-grown dragons flying high above get ambushed by ships. How the hell is that even possible?

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@speedrrracer I don't think she was asking Dany to kill all of Kings Landing, just to make sure she kills Cersei... with fire, of course

[@Jembonia]

One Minute in and.. THANK YOU for pointing out the godawful "tactics" so early. I was literally screaming at the TV.

[@Thaddius0]

you dont send out your entire cavalry outnumbered 1000-1 into a Necromancer who will just raise them seconds later against you first just to watch and see if they can win while their swords are on fire and they have no practice with?

[@nedisahonkey]

A channel called Invicta did a good video on the terrible tactics and what a more plausible battle plan would be.

[@Jembonia]

@@Thaddius0 Well.. Iron Maiden should redo "The Trooper" and change it to "The Dothraki". I also wonder who came up with the genious idea to put the artillery in front of the infantry. That's just plain ridiculous. As well as the firepit BEHIND the Unsullied -.-

[@Jembonia]

@@nedisahonkey Gonna watch that now, thanks :)

[@oyblech8671]

@@nedisahonkey wanted to suggest that, too; that vid and the one hellofutureme made where he tries to fix the writing of the episode gave me some joy with this episode. now that I think about it it's kinda sad how 2 random youtubers could fix a professionally made episode in not even 1 week when the episode was in the making for months... d&d deserve their shitstorm

[@darthcadman]

Just because something is unexpected doesn't mean its a good idea. I never would've expected Varys to defeat the Night King but that doesn't mean him diving out of nowhere to decapitate an Ice Demon would've been good in any way.

[@gavinfromyavin]

You just gave me such a hilarious image 😂 Varys flying in like Arya did, gritting his teeth with determination and cleaving the NK's head right off! 😂

[@hristo118]

Go fuck yourself. This episode is absolute trash.

[@alexisogbemudia5458]

Sertoriuss which he just said tf

[@hinglemccringleberry1255]

This would be actually better than the arya twist

[@salainenlokaatio]

Ok

[@washinours]

I've been expecting this ASX episode for the whole week and oh. my. god. You can tell a man has lost his cool. There's a fire blazing under this icey tone and it only means one thing fellas ; we crossed a line.

[@RickJacked]

I think some people care a little bit too much about the way this show planned out. I love this dudes videos but I would bet that tons of people loved the episode and aren’t really too bothered by what arcs did or did not happen. It was a fun episode, it’s tv that’s why I watch it, if you want all this other stuff stick to books. TV is drama.

[@MANJYOMETHUNDER111]

"And right here you can see the episode that broke Alt and made him embrace his inner Preston Jacobs."

[@undarkwin]

Tbh we all need to embrace it then and now

[@catfoy8888]

I think they broke him a while ago it just took until now for him to embrace Preston Jacobs

[@salokin3087]

You can hear the disappointment and his spirits breaking

[@hellhathnofurylikeapuppets2793]

For good reason, the episode was underwhelming.

[@friedkeenan]

It's really sad to see. He's been keeping it together these past seasons, but I noticed last season he was a little more critical of the show than he usually was in the previous season explained videos, and it's been increasing to this "climax." I really hope the next three episodes are worth watching. The only way they could salvage it at this point would be to introduce democracy to the iron throne, which is a theory I've had since Dany told Daario to help Mereen become a republic, and I think they teased that last season when Tyrion was nagging Dany about needing an heir, when he mentioned other peoples and their ways of choosing heirs (all of which were semi-democratic)

[@Graciaonhigh]

I mean, yeah. That was episode just took a giant dump on the last 7 seasons of world and character building. I respect the cinematography and how much work went into that episode. But the episode is like what a person who’d never watched the show or read the books would write if they were given the cliff notes of the story. Bad writing and rich with corny ass moments.

[@David-un4cs]

This show could have gone down as one of the greatest of all time.

[@preuensgloria8725]

"We had Arya kill the Night King because it was unexpected" This line made me so unbelievably mad. Ruing 8 Seasons of build-up for this is beyond insulting and shows me that the show runners have no respect for the story or audience.

[@mightyORFEN]

It wasnt why. In fact the real answer should piss you off more. They did it because they were forced to do "muh patriarchy" or "feminism" Look at the build up to this, they weakend all the men just to bring up the women. There was always room for both. We always had strong women. Look at Cersei. Dani, sansa, arya, mel, so many more. Yet that wasnt enough, they needed to show just how strong they were by revealing how weak and incompetent the "men are". They even spotlight onto Jon being the true heir to the throne, because hes a man. Shits weak. It sucks to face this but i rewatched season 8, ep 1,2,3 last night. Its all there.

[@lovepoem7753]

@@mightyORFEN Your right. Why?? I think Arya Stark will be the Pure Main Protagonist in Last Season. Because Melisandre say Brown Eyes - Walder Frey, Blue Eyes - Night King and Green Eyes - Cersei. Wait wtf?? How about somebody else would kill Cersei. Lol. Not Arya Again.

[@AbsalonCF]

@@mightyORFEN Oh please shut up.

[@Kushufy]

​@@mightyORFEN GAMERS RISE UP!!! XDDD

[@RadioTiberio]

CasualFan thats not why lol GRRM told them it would be Arya. Ofc they did it differently than the books will but that’s likely the one thing they couldn’t change lol.

[@kn0bhe4d]

"Subvert expectations" should become a meme for idiotic decisions made just for the sake of the unexpected.

[@matthiasm3147]

"Subverts Expectations" is going to be made into a trope by the time this show ends thanks to those 2 - if it isn't already.

[@Sansri16761]

It's funny cause The Last Jedi already ran that concept into the ground and through the other side of the planet

[@adamburgess7890]

@@Sansri16761 It's weird too how this is the first piece of entertainment to divide fans as much as the last jedi did.

[@mrfafaa96]

@@Sansri16761 No wonder why Disney hired these two to make a trilogy of their own. All they had to do was to tell Disney that they will "Snoke" the Night King and they were instantly hired probably.

[@Human000001]

It's true that they "Subverted our expectations". But only because no one actually believed that something so stupid could be in the script...

[@Coalemos]

I had no idea they would kill off the main plot. My expectations have been subverted!

[@chartabona]

Clearly this episode was just a warm-up for CleganeBowl. The Hound is Azor Ahai, and The Mountain is the true Night King.

[@mxrio9769]

Azor Ahype

[@l_will_be_great1326]

Yeah, Arya is gonna kill cersei, then jump 100m and kill the Mountain too

[@yonatanreed7151]

best theory so far

[@ByChoiceMuslim]

Basically the writers used the white walkers to weaken Danerys to make the final battle interesting. They had no idea what to do with Night king, Bran and Jon storyline.

[@mononoke721]

Despite my hopes to the contrary - probably this. I honestly do prefer the 'Game of Throne's aspect of this story and world to the 'Song of Ice and Fire' aspect, in both show and books, so I'm not entirely disappointed the show is going to return to this original focus - I just hope the whole existential white walker threat has some significant meaning to the characters beyond this final battle in several major ways, otherwise it will feel rather perfunctory narratively speaking.

[@guzelataroach4450]

Free kurdistan

[@jcie1210mk3]

The writers also showed Arya who has wanted to kill Cersei for 10 years can sneak by an army of zombies and kill their king. Why couldn't she do the same to an easier target in Cersei?

[@statcous]

@@mononoke721 "returning to its original focus" Yet both the show and the books start with white walkers, how the fuck is that NOT the original focus??

[@scoutbane1651]

@@jcie1210mk3 To be fair you could make the case brainless unintelligent zombies are not the same as the royal guard but eh...

[@alanyong]

Zombie ice dragon: Melts a hole in magical ice wall Also Zombie ice dragon: cannot burn Jon Snow because of a mound of mud and rubble

[@Inoka01]

tbf the wall is ice, which I would imagine has a lower melting point than rubble.

[@MollyFC]

Also he destroys the outer wall of Winterfell

[@ИванСнежков-з9й]

As "Alt Shift X" has pointed, the ice dragon got some holes in its neck so its fire breath is not as strong as it used to be. Still...

[@marcgoncalis9802]

John is a Targaryen. Fire is not very effective...

[@vispian7688]

@@marcgoncalis9802 john has been burnt before unlike danny

[@zeitGGeist]

“Just like in The Phantom Menace” I love the subtlety of this statement.

[@ilhamsuhendi90]

Alt Shift X is the channel that was promised

[@Rupadarshi-Ray]

And that wasn't subverting expectations...

[@Modelstl063]

Ilham Suhendi yes fuck nerd soup

[@_Woody_]

Ideas of Ice and Fire is the channel that was promised. This guy, like many other real fans, saw this coming since season 5. D&D are overpaid shitheads and can't write. But Alt Shift never really liked it that much after season 5 too, he just saw hope. Gotta love Alt Shift.

[@MrRuthless87]

I look forward to Atl Shift X videos more than I do for Game of Thrones

[@drippinwet774]

only dude not shitting out clickbait left and right like arya taking out wights in the night

[@21jd_]

Cinematically pleasing. Grand production. But that's not what we're watching GOT for 😔

[@Dikkiedank]

Yeah it's just become a TV show in all it's assets. Spectacular, unexpected, cinematically pleasing, main cast lives another day. It's not the magic and wondrous show it was with GRRM writing.

[@blubella2]

Yes, that sums it up..

[@cc0767]

Its actually quite bad cinematically as well except for 2 or 3 shots

[@Monkeydude16]

I can see why people are left with more to be desired after this episode. But let’s be real here. We watch for the fantasy storytelling AND because it’s cinematically pleasing and grand production

[@Monkeydude16]

Legio XXI Rapax LMAO there’s countless shows with “reality consequences”. Cmon man what separates thrones is the fantasy world George built. I agree tho they did away with the realism and that’s frustrating. I disagree with cinematically it was shit. I was able to follow just fine. there was many beautiful shots and I was on edge throughout

[@linuen34]

AltShiftX being so extra sassy this episode; I love it! lol

[@AverageAlien]

are you gay or something?

[@JovanNoviSad]

It's the writing in this episode. Any good analysis has to point out all frustrating details (and there are SO many)

[@sammytheman7327]

I don"t feel excited for episode 5 and it makes me sad

[@AH-be6bu]

I felt this was about episode 6 last season. It's weird seeing so many people now going through the same transition to indifference.

[@MrLennonLove]

Welp, you weren't wrong.

[@tomjones6944]

I had a terrible feeling when they gave us Hodor's origin story, that it was going to be a rough downhill ride but damn I never imagined it could be so horrible. To imagine getting chills watching the theory video about Jojen telling them that when the end comes they'll know, while starring at his burning hand; heavily suggesting or foreshadowing Jamie would fulfill the prophecy; boy have times changed... If we needed further proof that we're living in the shittiest reality/dimension/timeline, perhaps.... Oh wait nah that's enough :D :D :D

[@Minutemanly]

The writers kind of forgot that the dothraki were already ended

[@Cissablack708]

@An unimpressed Rooster I forgot to watch it too. I just.. didn't care anymore after this shit storm of an episode. I was so done with d&d, so done with all if their bullshit and how they literally just avoided doing any of the scenes that were ACTUALLY important and then just gave us senseless and stupid action scenes that were made even worse by the fact that their battle tactics in themselves were absolute shit to begin with. It was just one big steaming pile of rotten Frey pie diarrhea.

[@69jbr69]

Tyrion's face after Oberyn fight about sums up my thoughts on this episode.

[@nietzschesmoustache3585]

Didn't he throw up?

[@meris8486]

Yeah, watching Oberyn die tragically is the same feeling I had seeing Arya Nothin Personnel the Night King.

[@desmondgentle1474]

Oberyn's face after his fight captures my feelings

[@FernandoIncetta]

@@nietzschesmoustache3585 In the books.

[@bhsteam8368]

Meris s

[@MinscS2]

Tormund: I killed a giant when I was 10. Lyanna M: Hold my ribcage.

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

You stole this.

[@1911odisea]

She's older than 10. Plus he survived, lol. 😅

[@middler5]

Was Lyanna Tormund's love child or what?

[@DzinkyDzink]

He killed a sleeping infant.

[@1SrStreet]

She is 13, and Tormund didn't die...

[@RoderickMCox]

It sure was unexpected to make 7 seasons of storyline redundant.

[@114castillo]

SuBveRtInG EXpEctAtiONs! No seriously, the show runners have used this concept as an explanation for fanservice terrible writing. Red Wedding, Ned = that is subverting expectations, not awful writing, lack of coherency, and throwing in Arya to an arc that wasn't hers.

[@bluejaysforever3627]

Thankfully they didnt Roderick

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

Edd didn't get a red X at 19:02. When you're so forgettable even Alt Shift X forgets that you died.

[@lethargictroll6788]

F

[@alexanderf8451]

The greatest mystery is all of GoT is how Sam survived that episode.

[@MoffatLee]

Every time he got hurt Snorlack just used rest to recover, wight dps was too low to counter his strat.

[@RogerRoger182]

Because plotarmor, because he has to write everything down for future generations, because lazy writing.

[@Secondaccount31]

Because the nk doesnt want his fat ass on his time so the wights didnt bother killing him

[@whitealliance9540]

Remember when trump made fun of that crippled reporter? Sam: bro you not even funny

[@mspacey6230]

HBO : What do we say to the good writing? D&D : Not today

[@dauntul]

not today or ever

[@BatmanisBatman]

Lmao

[@КалоянПетков-с5ч]

Epic!

[@lazerdazer700]

Truth

[@retrotony4119]

I won’t defend the producers of the show, but damn, I don’t think any scenario would have satisfied you fools. What do you expect of a story about magic, the undead and dragons.

[@blubella2]

I feel like this episode was entirely about getting rid of uncomfortably difficult storylines like the Dothraki in westeros or the night king explanation, coated under Michael Bay distractions so maybe noone realizes...

[@gandalf6751]

blubella2 so Arya noticed

[@TheHuntley81]

How are the Dothraki difficult? They are just an army. They did okay with them season 7

[@boboholz745]

@@TheHuntley81 Because they basically rape, plunder and kill everyone and everything they conquer

[@ea-sk8er_775]

Unfortunately that's what you have to do when you have no more time and only six episodes

[@nunoprazeres9434]

Everything is explained about NK what u didn’t get it after 7 seasons?? Jesus u guys don’t pay attention to anything

[@klokotze1129]

Bran says in Episode 02 that he doesn't know if dragon fire can kill the NK. Even though he can see into the future ... Daenerys trying it in Episode 03 ... I guess he was actually more busy playing Raven Simulator than checking out the future for useful information.

[@k995100]

He can see past/present not the future.

[@hristiyanhristov2480]

@@k995100 Necroing - he can see some parts of the future, but not necessarily make sense of them - like the dragon flying over King's Landing.

[@alkalinemk1588]

They did the bare minimum with the storytelling for the sake of cinematics.

[@highwind6325]

Brian Harries I would have preferred shit cinematics for a satisfying story.

[@bdfornies]

Well directed cinematics would have been cool too tho Those dark, short takes were absolute shit

[@BoldNBrash]

It's a shame, because this episode had some amazing cinematography (when it wasn't too fucking dark) and that one amazing music piece near the end.

[@Zach-sx8cm]

"bare minimum" is what popped into my head when i thought about the details they gave about the walkers. FUCK I'm disappoint dude....

[@spenserplakaris7282]

@@Zach-sx8cm literally what more is to know of the walkers. they are simply human killing weapons

[@ImagineBlue5]

I've noticed a trend among my friends. The more into the show you are, the more disappointed you are. I was very into the show...

[@gaurimann7156]

Oh god YES. My friend who just started watching the show like last month LOVED IT . I mean I didn’t wait 6 YEARS for this kinda overtly obvious ending .

[@Bayuuk]

My 2 friends who just recently started watching it within the past few months LOVED IT. And I’m all annoyed and they think I’m too negative 🙃

[@JackEBoy-el4hs]

ive been watching since the start and have the books and i loved it

[@para001]

Therefore we can now differentiate between the noobs and the ogs. Whoever enjoyed it and had nothing to criticise is most likely a noob, and just picked up the show once it became impossible to avoid

[@starlyghtdrifter66]

@@JackEBoy-el4hs me too...the real casuals are the ones who didn't like. Because they think this is the avengers and it's about epic swordfights and good guy vs bad guy. It's so sad to see the show get popular only to get bashed by ignorant half-educated morons who don't understand what the show is really about.

[@jessyc4092]

I'm trying to figure out why the hell R+L=J even matters at this point. I don't buy that it's all about Jon being the heir to the throne. Hell, one can argue that Robert won by conquest, so by that line of thinking, why didn't we spend the last couple seasons watching Bran discover Gendry's true heritage?...idk, it just doesn't add up to me.

[@BattyButtercup]

Jessy C maybe the show will pull off a Hunger Games & as Dany sits down for her coronation with Cersei chained at her feet, Arya shoots an arrow into DANY'S head all "whoopsie daisy" but she slow-mo's out with Sansa & Jon, who throws Dany's crown at Shook Tyrion and when he goes to ask "WTF?!" he gets cut off by an army of wolves in his way. hashtag Long Con Independent North?

[@jessyc4092]

@@BattyButtercupthat's the best explanation I could see in this shit show of a reveal 😂

[@ScarrRose15]

Gendry isnt a rightful heir to the throne he's a bastard the show explains that Jon is legitimate as Rhaegar and Lyanna married while Rhaegar's marriage to Elia was annulled. This legitimizes Jon as a rightful heir to the throne. Gendry has no rights to claim anything as he is a bastard and can only be legitimized by a royal decree which would have only been done by his father. The same way Ramsay got legitimized by his own father and it was acknowledged by the crown. Im tired of ppl ating like Gendry really has a claim to the throne he doesnt no matter what he doesnt ....

[@friedkeenan]

@@ScarrRose15 I mean, Jon was thought to be Ned's bastard and was still made the King of the North, and the show basically got rid of the bastard problem by having a random lord say "I don't care if he's a bastard"

[@ScarrRose15]

@@friedkeenan no they didnt. Jon gets to be the proclaimed king in the north because he is the know bastard son of Ned stark. He was the last living male with stark blood at the time which is why the northerners accepted him. If Ned never acknoledged Jon as his bastard sansa may have very well be proclaimed king in the north lol. also King in the NORTH is not KING OF THE SEVEN KINGDOMS. There are 2 way to the iron throne 1 by bloodline right 2 by war. If you consider the last legitimate king to be Robert then the bloodline would fall to Gendry but Robert never acknowledged Gendry's existence or even knows of him there is no one who would proclaim Gendry the rightful king as it isnt know outside of a few that he is Robert's bastard. Anyway the only way to claim the Iron Throne now is through war (gendry has neither army nor name so he cant do anything here really)

[@thuzie8687]

I wish Alt Shift was a writer on the show.

[@LeftJoystick]

It’s incredible how these shows seem to find the most unqualified writers/producers. It’s got to be on purpose.