Game of Thrones Season 8 Ep. 3 - Angry Review!

[@schmittieus]

Wights take 40 seconds to kill a dothraki horde. 40 minutes to try and kill sam who was literally lying down half the episode..

[@Miuranger1]

That fat disgusting slob makes me think even del can survive

[@TruculentRuminavi]

True I wanted that fat bastard to DIE. Atleast lyanna dies hopefully sam doesnt inherit his family castle.

[@Startrance85]

Having plot armor is super effective.

[@bastiaandebruijn3653]

Sam survives because... Sam will take the Throne, otherwise he would've been killed off a while ago :P

[@AA-jg1nv]

Zao Arya was able to sneak up on the knight king due to her training. She snuck up on John snow and he didn’t notice.

[@kiransarat7743]

Almost all of the known Valeryan swords of westeros in one location and the epsiode had zero epic duels with white walkers. Missed oppurtuinty.

[@robby469]

Yesssssssss

[@wildwest1832]

I think jon and the night king a one on one when he ran after him would have been very cool. Instead he rose the dead and it never happened

[@brunobarbosa4457]

Brienne and jorah shouldve died while fighting against the white walkers. Brienne while saving Jaime and jorah while saving Daenerys. Jon shouldve gone against the nk

[@goran77ish]

Nah, it was dumb that they even went to the battlefield. Why would you risk drone controllers when you have so many expendable troops? Nights king is dumb. Just fly far away from the battlefield and have a battery of Night walkers defending your dragon from other dragons and let wights do the job. Arya killing him was dumb but Jon killing him would be dumb and cliche. Both are bad.

[@NateSpurs]

Exaclty! Which is pretty much what I've been waiting for the whole time, especially since the fight with Jon Snow at Hardholme.

[@bigbear5767]

First shot: main character is being crushed beneath 30 zombies Next shot: oh, they're fine

[@azaanis9553]

200 zombies*, but it's nothing that Jon can't handle. Daenerys is defending herself from hordes too, easy.

[@Senth99]

That's my main issue with this episode; not any of the main characters died, despite being swarmed by the undead.

[@TomTomXIV]

Yeah it was weird

[@ericlucas1]

@iNSANE how did Sam survive?

[@susakuzero]

@iNSANE Sure Actions dont have consequences and everyone has Plot Armour ......... Hm someone forgot to tell that Leeroy Theon Jenkins. The thing is plot arour still dont exist. There are still 5 Episodes and i am not sure what people want or expect. That they kill nearly all Characters and for the next 4 Episodes we see Cercei chilling in KL with the Mountain and Qyburn ? Sure most of the MC survived so what ? Someone need to finish the Story and maybe should or at least could survive. Or want some people a ending where everyone is dead ?

[@MrBarborosa]

I wish Oberyn has survived long enough to get ahold of that dope plot armor.

[@shuyuwang6122]

The plot armor is so thick even Sean Bean can survive

[@clerns]

That was back when they were still following the books which contain much less bullshit.

[@domainphantom7651]

@@shuyuwang6122 SEAN BEEEEEEAAANNN!

[@XShadow730X]

Seriously, I loved Oberyn!!

[@Mirza011]

Sadly Oberyn doesn't wear armor

[@AbbasAli-ef5sy]

Plot twist :Bran was watching ENDGAME the whole time

[@user-gi6el7tc3j]

Haha

[@yourdadsotherfamily3530]

I think it was cause it had a better pay off than this shit 😂💀

[@ZR38315]

Zachary Folse why does this show get shit for giving characters plot armor but endgame killed off even less people and it’s hailed as the payoff to end all payoffs

[@3banizdaddi]

Judging from the look on his face, he came to right after Iron Man died smh

[@darrengaffley1881]

@@ZR38315 you need to understand, marvel characters dont die, the bad guys always lose and plot armor has been around in marvel movies since iron man 1, but GOT never had such things, thus making this the first GOT eps to have not just plot armor but so much of it, Sam died at least 3 times in this episode, Brian died like 2 times in this episode and even Jamie had died like once, and I promise u 1 of the dragons died as well but nope, they all survived......Such a disappointment, but still loved the fights and the ending, although confusing, was ohk.

[@smithers4420]

Imagine if season 1 was like season 8. Ned about to get his head chopped off. As the axe comes down Benjin flies into kings landing riding a giant wolf with wings and scoops him up. Everyone applauds Samwell Tarley starts crying

[@TheLegend-mu6zg]

It’s weird to think that the same show were a king died from a boar attack is also the same as characters surviving a dozen zombies jumping on them

[@ddi654]

im dead

[@jeffdaman6969]

smithers Honestly, I thought something like that was going to happen. Someone would save Ned Stark. When his head got chopped off I thought, “no fucking way.” I was hooked.

[@caiopereira1289]

Yeah, feels empty, unnimaginative and plain. Totally different series than what we began with. This could have been so Much better If they hadnt just decided to rush and end.

[@777somebody]

@@TheLegend-mu6zg Thats because it was true to the books back then. When they stopped going by the books and did their own thing it wasnt a book adaption anymore, it was just a tv show. Writers are too scared to take that step, but in the previous seasons that shocked the fucking world they did because it was ALL in the books.

[@youflatbro7498]

Here is how it ends, they killer Cersei, they split the kingdom with Daenerys ruler of the south and Jon ruler of the north and Ghost is taken to the vet to be dewormed.

[@4m4n40]

I think it will end with all the main characters walking to the south and splitting the kingdoms amongst them. They've got plot armour, so they won't have to worry about dying to anything.

[@shananika]

Dany dies in childbirth. Her Targaryen child marries Arya and Gendry’s Baratheon/Stark child bringing peace and unity between the Targs and Baratheons.

[@Blackn3t]

*dewarged

[@54markl]

Everyone dies except Ghost and he ascends the Iron Throne. Best possible ending at this point. The Night King may as well have won.

[@215ila]

Lol wtf..

[@Lykandras]

GoT became every thing GRRM wanted his story not to be. Troupes, simple good vs evil, hollywood cliches, plot armor

[@ohauss]

GRRM himself used plenty of plot armor, clichés and tropes.

[@JohnSmithClark]

@@ohauss Very true. Even though he hates them I believe he said they're almost impossible to avoid. I hope I'm remembering that correctly

[@spaghettiioassassin8151]

Lykandras you do realize that GRRM had to approve of every episode before release right? So clearly he’s NOT against those cliches

[@Lykandras]

@@spaghettiioassassin8151 he has nothing to do with the show since S4. He does not even get scripts or previews. He talked with them about the ending 6 years ago.

[@Lipidwave]

Spaghettiio Assassin He hasn't worked on the series since Season 4.....

[@Startrance85]

Dothraki rushing into the army of the dead in the dark and dying, just made me angry. How can you be that braindead, just giving them more corpses for free.

[@fallenhope1]

the creators had to get rid of the cavalry early to cut costs, would have taken up too much time having them in the full episode

[@ShadowKillerDoesMC]

smawllz didn’t realize? No army is history just send their fucking Calvary straight into an enemy that they know is bigger?

[@Startrance85]

@@Smawllz Jon and several others have fought with the white walkers before, the Dohraki not knowing doesent make much sense, someone of the leaders should have told them how dangerous the undead are.

[@JohnDoe-oo5ly]

No one anticipated World War Z zombie tsunami waves! No one!

[@sumeriantownie3073]

Alex The Awsome Yup Jon Snow is so overrated as a commander. Literally threw the battle of the bastards running in forcing his army to charge in after him, making his defences that were set up for the battle useless. The plot armour is sooo strong.

[@shortyboyhero]

Nobody: Dothraki: LLLEEEERRROOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYY JAAAAANKIIIINNNSSSSSSSS!

[@clerns]

This.

[@BorkKillsOneLegMan]

yolo

[@RawkL0bster]

God damn it Leroy. God damn it.

[@eshankarnik262]

😂

[@kleindropper]

And the Dothraki Sea saw peace for generations

[@raffica740]

*[Insert loved character] fighting against 50 whitewalkers* *Scene fades out with [Insert loved character] getting swarmed by 100 more while not being ready to swing their sword* 15 minutes later *[Insert loved character] is somehow still fighting*

[@enma9359]

still wonder what kind of drugs did D&D use while writing that scene

[@kleindropper]

Yeah it was pretty stupid having 3 major characters pinned against the wall by zombies and Sam lying in a ditch for an hour and just survive at the end.

[@bestthingsinceslicedrice]

Its the dumpsters i tell you! The dumpsters who came to save them all!

[@pracitus]

The thing is, not even one white walker fought... only the wights.

[@christianpetersen163]

30 min later: just sitting on a pile of corpses, crying and screaming: "This doesn't make any sense whatsoever!" 😢 While 50 wights are futilely clawing at their legs.

[@sebastjankrek1744]

The only dumber way for NK to die would be if he impaled himself on dragonglass falling from his dragon.

[@LocalHeretic-ck1kd]

And the way he fell was dumb. I was like: "DUDE! You are on a dragon who is fighting another dragon who has another dude on him. Hold on for your life and stop pointing that spear you dumbass." And the he fell and I was: "Told ya you stupid idiot."

[@ohauss]

Except, of course, that stealth was the only credible way for him to die. Only idiots would believe that someone can beat him in a swordfight. The guy one-shotted a dragon.

[@drchitta2686]

Atleast that would have been helarious

[@JohnSmithClark]

@@LocalHeretic-ck1kd Yeah, but I think his dragon was losing. It didn't really matter if he fell. If he took one of them out or dragon that's pretty much done game. So I felt like it was pretty tense especially with his aim in the past. Although I agree he couldn't definitely held on a little better lol

[@VEGITAS4]

Next episode, Daenarys will anounce the sad news that Admiral Ackbar died during the battle.

[@thejboy5596]

It’s a trap!

[@kleindropper]

And she'll keep all the hotshot menfolk in the dark about how they are going to attack King's Landing.

[@kobi-wanaenobi7080]

Then she will crash her dragon right through king's landing

[@bigbear5767]

Lvl 13 assasin build with rare valerian dagger: (drinks stealth potion) Lvl 1999 ice battle-mage: leaves game to save KD ratio

[@theonlychickensama8353]

Ice battle mage should have spent some points in special defense and health smh

[@wayne4797]

Swear to God I thought when the Night King walked up to Bran, they would bump fists and be like, 'we did it hommie'

[@st4ne4rmthevill63]

I thought Brann was gonna die

[@MrSkinnyWhale]

I thought that where it was going for a second. Then Arya showed up...

[@custardgannet4836]

@@Jax-u1b Way better,Arya Stark? What a joke.

[@roger767]

shyamalan plottwist, Bran was a whitewalker all along

[@JoeBobTheTROLL]

Me too! Lol

[@claireglory]

Game of Throne Season 8 Episode 3 "The plot Armor is dark and full of errors." it was so bad that even Melisandre walks out and killed herself. ain't nobody got time for that! XD

[@SCHRODINGERS_WHORE]

Lmfao 😂

[@liamsmith331]

For real. How did the battle not even kill the character that died at the end anyway?

[@amandaking3331]

😂😂

[@isla2202]

ha ha...

[@MRTIJUANAPS3]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

[@crazylikeafox8528]

Walder Frey killed more main characters than the worthless Night king and his subordinates, let that sink in...

[@billybonga7631]

If only i could give 10k likes to your comments.

[@Clubskunk]

I wish I could give 100k likes to this comment .

[@dvltang871]

Took him 5 seasons

[@Gibsonsg527]

He only killed 3 main characters

[@Clubskunk]

dannyg go watch the first episode of game of thrones , right of the get go they make him the true bad guy. Go watch it and reply back to this

[@Karakuioshi]

If you compare this fight to the Battle of Bastards fight then it's night and day. Literally.

[@fiddlestix26]

Ned Flanders lmfao that’s hilarious

[@vane909090]

The BoB was pretty damn good imo. This was dumb as fuck, and only enjoyable from a cinematography perspective. But even that was flawed because of all the damn darkness. Can't believe the NK just died like that. Fucking shit writing.

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

@Ned Flanders and dont forget the dragons too lol

[@DeanToledano]

Battle of the bastards had the worst deus ex machina of the entire show. It's a cool battle with one of the worst conclusions.

[@NotInformedOfficial]

A one-handed Jamie and a crying Samwell actually survived. SMH

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

well u only need 1 hand to swing a 1 handed sword. But yeah Sam was crying on a pile of bodies. He should have turned zombie

[@NotInformedOfficial]

UK man loves goddesses he lost his fighting hand and swung for hours with his non-fighting hand against hundreds. Really now...

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

@@NotInformedOfficial i badly sprained my wrist from too much masturbating. I was still able to learn how to skilfully use my other hand to great effect all night long

[@yermom014]

@@alwaysdisputin9930 Now imagine trying to do it while getting piled by a thousand wights.

[@lilgmantexas]

But Jamie should die by Cersei in my opinion

[@Tyraeleon]

*Plot Armor Equipped: +99% Defense, +99% Evasion, +10 Luck, -10 Charisma*

[@VEGITAS4]

Tyrion gave them all plot armor last episode by the fireplace when he said, "I think we will live". Tyrion is once again the true MVP, and he didn't even fight! Tyrion is a god!

[@Bear-Knight]

Anyone with 2 working hands and not firing a bow were taking up space and resources. No room for cowardice when the rules no longer matter.

[@VEGITAS4]

@@Bear-Knight he wanted to fight, but everyone put Tyrion in a corner, and Tyrion was saying all episode: "NOBODY PUTS TYRION IN A CORNER"!!

[@philipanderson7581]

Tyrion strikes again

[@CommanderM117]

the god of tits and wine shame little mormomt did not have plot Armour

[@rufustherat1794]

Arya should fly over to kings landing and kill cerci in like 30 mins

[@PersianGamer36]

Rufus The rat 179 literally laughed so hard

[@elcidS15]

She has Skyrim lvl 100 stealth crouch.

[@OnlineMedien]

no joke... i think arya will come for cersey with litte fingers face :D

[@Spined1234]

I legit wouldn't be surprised if they did that considering how stupid this season is.

[@TheWartechgaming]

@Rawr5649 no it took 5 seconds to kill him actually, biggest villain in got, building him up for 7 seasons ,Jon being prophecised as a warrior of light and then Arya kills him in 5 seconds, awesome episode don't get how people can think that. Also Arya passing all those white walkers behind night king, how??? Makes absolutely 0 sense.

[@absurdist5630]

They should have finished the Cersei plot first and then, as a grand final, the Night King. This episode was a huge disappointment for me as one of the most mysterious villains in recent TV has been killed so uninspiredly.

[@youaintasbadasyouthink]

Except its GAME OF THRONES, not a zombie movie. Now one side is weakened, they can push the fight for the iron throne. Cersei actually has a chance now.

[@mortiferus7117]

Yea, the wall also came down too soon and with no resistance.

[@Estarlin.c]

Spectrum UK Bruh the reason it’s called game of thrones is because that’s the title of the 1st book in the asoiaf series

[@dann6954]

Spectrum UK except the show makes it very clear that human conflict ultimately does not matter when faced with the end of humanity.

[@AntonioFelipePitta]

@@youaintasbadasyouthink This "zombie movie" part was the first conflict on the show. They were being developed since the very first scene on the first episode.

[@rudhresh-rudie4750]

Episode 3 showed us that Night king was just another mindless cgi alien villain

[@Loyal_Lion]

RUDHRESH KUMAR Night King isn't CGI. It's all makeup as far as I'm aware. 😏

[@huntersix267]

@@Loyal_Lion lol you didnt know what he means. He means that night king is just a generic doomsday villain

[@AIIEYESONME]

With zero lines, not even a Bwahaha, you're faith in your friends is your weakness...Yeah, well your faith in well written drama, and underestimating the power of the Twitter fan base to corrupt Hollywood writers is yours.

[@Jack10016]

ManBitesDog I was dissatisfied when he went up to bran and reached for his blade instantly without even saying anything

[@dcworld4349]

He wasn't mindless he clearly had a goal seeing as he wanted to kill Bran himself. What did you expect? That he would have a rich historical background for wanting to take control and rule the world with one hive mind? That we would get to see things from his perspective? He was never going to be a complex villain how could he be when even if they talked nobody would understand them. The previous near world ending events in westoros by magical creatures did the same thing, the complexities comes from the actual people when they got powers beyond their understanding and how they react to pure evil unlike the evil but understandable motivation they've generally encountered. We know barely nothing about the white walkers in the books and while we might get to read about Bran learning about them, Martin himself has said that while the journey will be a bit different this is his ending. He had to tell them since he decided to write fictional history books for 8 years when he knew that they would catch up even by splitting 1 book into 2 seasons. Martin isn't going to create a "Thanos" in his books, he's more interested in the human conflict while the white walkers are a device to bring people together out of desperation. The fallout will probably be bigger since there are no budget constrains, he probably has a better way to give the whites a dragon but this war is the most fantasy level it will ever get.

[@harrisonchheav7206]

My theory was Arya was atop the tower of house Stark and used the Skooma exploit to enhance her movement speed. Sure, the Night King is strong but not even him could detect a person moving at Mach 12.

[@gatack75]

She drank like 20 skooma bottles

[@danielscutaru6682]

I think she used ZA WARUDO

[@eisernfront8549]

I think she to buy the Skooma exploit from the dlc store for only $9.99

[@JezzaGee]

"The skooma exploit" omg 😂 I'm telling you she's a damn Khajit I'm telling you

[@danielscutaru6682]

Nightwalker king : ooh instead of running away you're approaching me? Arya : I can't hit you if I don't come closer Night walker king : MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA

[@poosley7476]

Season 1: WInTER iS CoMINg it WiLl lASt A THouNSad YeARs Last night: Winter lasted about an hour

[@th3envyp238]

With small flurries of snowflakes. Battle of the snowflakes

[@th3envyp238]

@Hismajesty's Kingdom Yeah I'm gonna stop watching because the writing is for children now. You would have to be a half wit to enjoy that ending. So I'm sure you are thrilled. The last episode could be someone dangling shiny keys and you would be even happier

[@arnaldonyc]

The Thousand Year Winter had nothing to do with the NightKing though. The Winter would have come regardless.

[@KillaKris239]

arnaldonyc Idk, after the night king died the environment “cleared up” the sun rose and the ice melted and the wind and snow storm affect completely disappeared....

[@jessicaanatolevna6690]

Metaphor

[@elpeacecarter]

I just realized Night King turned all the Craster sons into white walkers for nothing total waste

[@eduardmazilescu3846]

I just realized that everything to do with the white walkers for the past 8 seasons led to absolutely nothing

[@Revan-eb1wb]

yep

[@XavierArnau399]

all that incest wasted ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@louiethepitt]

They fucked the ending

[@johnnygreenface]

Well not a total waste. The stark - targarian army ia basically non existent

[@marineFR3A]

the night king the main enemy since season 1 literally just went poof. not amazing at all

[@OkurkaBinLadin]

Not really him, but Death was "main enemy" as existential threat to all petty humans and their little, selfish agendas. Well, writers figured out, that aging, scheming and pregnant alcoholic is more compelling to send message across...

[@19019212]

U dont see the night king until season 4

[@OkurkaBinLadin]

@@19019212 Sure and do you know HOW the entire tv show opened? With what scene and where? :)

[@19019212]

Michal Poláček white walkers and the nights watch men

[@OkurkaBinLadin]

@@19019212 Precisely. The woman that ended entire storyline didnt even met single wight until this episode. Writers only thought it out towards end of season 4 (as they were running out of original material) and actress portraying Arya commented, that it was "weird". Story wise it makes as much sense as Tywin Lannister being father of Jon Snow or Euron Greyjoy offing a dragon in hand to hand combat.

[@bdasaw]

Sam had so much plot armor he was literally sleeping on a bed of whitewalkers

[@Guonejo]

Yeah, seriously, WTF. Everyone was dying around them, but theres Sam, just crying in the middle of a gigantic fight, nothing happening to him.

[@Tclbmx_]

I know right, I thought he was going to die.. AND NOPE, he is just there chilling with a bunch of zombies, while the people around him are having their flesh being ripped lol

[@porkyvonchop6458]

correction fat armor 😂

[@XerrosNightscar]

wights u mean . Not white walkers

[@harrym2945]

How do we know he’s not dead?

[@jb1rd553]

How Walder Frey kill more main characters than the Night King? Doesn't make any sense!!!!!

[@ThePrimordialChronicles]

Because his scenes are from the books And this ending is written by creators of fan fiction

[@bobbybooshay5854]

Walter 🤣🤣

[@madilen4you90]

so you wante all of them to die ? who wold have continued the series to the end then ?

[@danielscutaru6682]

Killed cat and rob, all the stark army and Co Dhhaaaamn

[@ravenwhiteduck3158]

@@madilen4you90 gotta love how it's either nothing or to the enth degree, seriously where's your brain?

[@Cadrieldur]

*The Night King was reduced to Tyrion level of Stupidity.* *This episode was so dark, even the Night king's guard didn't see Arya coming* 1. They *didn't* even *need the Dothraki. Greyworm, Gendry, Tormund, Brienne, and Jaime* *killed* like *2,000 wights each* 2. *Sam,* The Most *OP male Character,* laying in a pile of bodies and stabbing left and right while crying uncontrollably. 3. Jon, yelling at a FUCKING DEAD Dragon (Dothraki scream). 4. Night King is a Necromancer, Resurrects the Dead, But he has 1 Hitpoint of Health. 5. *Arya,* MOST *OP Female Character,* *Stealth Level, Infinite.* 6. The Night King fucked *a million to one lead.* 7. *Barricade Dondarian* 8. At least, Sansa doesn't need to worrying about feeding everyone at Winterfell now 9. *Ghost On, Ghost Off* 10. *Bran:* I'm going to go now. [𝘣𝘳𝘢𝘯 𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘨𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘰 𝘢 𝘳𝘢𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘨𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘰𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘥𝘳𝘢𝘨𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘦] *Bran:* I'm back. Well that sucked.

[@TikVineTok]

Underrated lol😂😂

[@kazuya9288]

Stupid? He countered everything, he prevented the dragons turning the tide with magic, he tried to kill Jon with Viserys because he saw him as the only threat, he breached the walls and then he raised an unsurmountable army to prevent anyone touching him as he entered the glade to deal with Bran. He didn't see Ayra coming because she is no one and servant of the many faced god. I think so many people are mad because they got played into thinking Jon would killed him while fighting off an endless horde of wights, about 12 whitewalkers single handedly.

[@PhilGerb93]

@@kazuya9288 That ending was terrible, not believable at all, the night king and white walkers didn't do shit during the entire episode.

[@787-o2q]

@Tigra Spartan What do latinos have to do with these???!!!

[@Cadrieldur]

@@kazuya9288 None of the prophecies mattered, nothing was resolved between Bran and Night King, all eight seasons of build up and the NK dies from one quick stab. No surprising twists, no intelligent storytelling, the storyline ends like this. The whole long night ends in one battle. The war council preparing for a siege, they send out their cavalry to die in the first 10 seconds, 20 or more wights surrounded every character, and yet every main character manages to retreat. Theon with around 20 archers managed to defend against a horde of wrights. We see Jon surrounded by a crowd of wights, and next scene there's no more wights left. I think this time it's a bit of a stretch to say DB Weiss and David Benioff planned this well. By their own admission they've only known Arya was going to land the finishing blow for 3 years and when you account for the 2 year hiatus, that's just season 7. Even then, Arya got the job because she's a fan favorite, not because this is what she's been building up to. Her story never even had a hint of "White Walker" plot. I think Mel talking about shutting eyes forever back in season 3 was purely about her faceless man training. Mel said the "Blue Eyes" comment second in season 3 but they retro actively made it the last color while reiterating it this episode to force prophetic weight onto it. From a story writing perspective this was not Arya's fight to win anymore than it would've been Oberyn Martell's. Her experiences made her a highly skilled fighter but her plot didn't set her up to be the savior of the realms of the living.

[@Quake_X1]

1. Lightning was bad. 2. They send their Cavalry head on immediately to their deaths for no apparent reason. (Dumb Move) 3. Daenerys and Jon immediately ditch the plan and go play Maverick and goose in a blizzard when all they needed to do was fly near the castle the whole time where they could actually see and provide better air support. 4. Artillery and archers literally fired one Bali in the beginning when the Dothraki were charging and then they don't do anything the rest of the show. (Dumb) 5. Sam decides to think he's a front line Soldier, then proceeds to watch his friend get killed saving him and runs away pissing himself. 6. Melisandre actually decides to be useful and lights the trench. 7. The Hound decides this would be the episode he would get PTSD and stop fighting an chicken out. 8. Tyrion literally does nothing the whole episode doesn't even provide Battle Tactics when Jon has to leave. 9. Brienne, Jamie, Podrick, Tormund, Beric and Gendry are fighting for their lives literally the whole episode with no dialogue. 10. Grey Worm holds the line like a good soldier boy till he has to say fuck that shit. 11. Then we get to Arya easily killing everything in sight as Davos justs looks at her like you're not overpowered by plot armor or anything. 12. Bran worgs into birds for no reason at all. 13. Jons dodging dragon fire the whole last half. 14. Jorah was a good little white knight and sacrifices himself for his Queen while getting stabbed like 7 times. 15. Daenerys realizes oh s*** I don't know how to fight when I don't have my dragons. 16. Sam cries in a pile of dead bodies waiting for the end. 17. Tyrion and Sansa talk about how they literally can't do anything while doing literally nothing. No plan B no fall back or escape plan. 18. Melisandre finally Cashes in on that foreshadowing from season 3 that no one knew what the hell she was talking about. 19. Theon suicides into the Night King leaving Bran even more vulnerable. 20. Arya comes out of nowhere and Assassin's Creed kills the main antagonist driving the plot forward for 7 seasons all the while we get no answers about the Night Kings reasoning, his history or even a fight scene with him or Jon. 21. The Night King's son lieutenants literally did nothing. They just burst into ice cubes after he dies conveniently by a dagger that no one knows anything about. 22. They let a character that literally is the most least deserving of killing the Night King, kill him because of bad writing. 23. We know Arya has killed two of her prophesized kills that Melisandre has said brown eyes was Walder Frey, Blue eyes Night King, and as we can easily presume green eyes as Cersei. 24. The rest of the show will be completely linear now an uninteresting to me. Honestly who cares who kills Cersei? Even if they do a plot twist and Arya doesn't kill her. The show already teases immediately where they're going next. 25. Literally the worst Battle Tactics in the history of movies and shows ever. 26. The show's score was literally the same song the whole show no battle sequencing music. It got old the first quarter of the show. We get it you want to build tension but actually use a different song in the action sequences. 27. (Reiteration) The cheapest antagonist kill I've ever seen in a show. I'll be the adult here and give this a 2/10.

[@Loyal_Lion]

Quake_X1 Assassins Creed...lol...fucking dying

[@chrisellersagangsta]

Number 20

[@harrisonchheav7206]

Joe, you could clearly see that Arya had Nightingale boots equipped to muffle her movement. Come on Joe

[@ZacharyOsterman]

Harrison Chheav she also trained in assassins in the house of the undying.

[@OkurkaBinLadin]

You still need to "explain" the other 60 minutes of bad writing :)

[@OkurkaBinLadin]

@@ZacharyOsterman I did not know, that House of undying is so adept at manufacturing Azor Ahai, Zach :) oh wait, Arya is not Azor Ahai. Arya is now Snow White out to get to kill titular "bad guy" of her own fairy tale - aging, pregnant alcoholic.

[@ZacharyOsterman]

I don’t get why this is so hard for you to accept. She learned sword play from Serio, she learned how to fight ruthless and dirty from Sandor Clegan. And stealth from Jackson Haggar and the god of many faces. All over Eight seasons. I think your looking too much into the prophecy itself

[@isaacevanoff1121]

I feel like the whole “Come at me bro” moment in Hardhome feels unresolved. Jon didn’t need to give the killing blow, but I feel like the final moments for the night King should have ended with him and Jon fighting.

[@Revan-eb1wb]

yeah. he just could have killed jon right there. but he did not.... i really dont get it

[@terria8825]

Na. It was amazing.

[@karl_fookin_tanner9605]

When GoT is taken over by hollywood casuals... ,_,

[@Kavou]

worst thing ever is that the majority likes it and finds nothing wrong with it!

[@Nataton-cg8zo]

Kavou which is me tho i loved this episode

[@zeusdeuce7438]

Nobody killed any white walkers by the way, they killed wights but that’s all.

[@Safersephiroth777]

True that. Damn!

[@whateverjustposting]

Heres the thing; the plot armor wouldnt have been so noticeable if the characters were making smart decisions that didnt put them in situations where they could (and should) die.

[@Scissorhead6]

Exactly, its fine that they live, but it takes you out of it when, 1 character is surrounded by hundreds of enemies, in an impossible situation and somehow they survive it.

[@Steelers4Life47]

Scissorhead6 yeah they did that exact thing then jump cut away like 5 times, at one point Danny was 2 secs away from being tacked by a walker then, you guessed it jump cut

[@davidportmore9784]

Yeah exactly. Sam should have run right to the crypt. Yeah he'd have to take on the four or whatever revived Starks but that's more his speed than the army of the undead. Jamie and Brienne maybe get saved because somebody kills a white walker who controlled the wights attacking them. There are explanations for most of them but instead we just got them hacking away.

[@TheHonestTruth]

Great comment

[@streusel17]

@@davidportmore9784 sam shouldve been in the crypt to begin with, hes never been a fighter, and we have always known this

[@rollercoaster478]

Cant wait for the books, been waiting for years, but episodes like this make me want the books even more. No way GRRM would write something like this.

[@jennifervalentine8955]

I'm pretty sure Winds of Winter will come out, but not sure of Dream of Spring. But yeah, I am interested to see how far all this diverges from what's in the book... or if we are past Winds of Winter and in full on Dreams of Spring.

[@hasinurrahman6317]

Yeah the dude is like 75+ now. He will probably die or become too old to write before he finishes.

[@rollercoaster478]

@@hasinurrahman6317 he looks older, but actually is 70 years old. Either way, I am worried about him as much as the next ASOIAF fan :( He said in an interview that he has good health, so thats positive, but as far as I know, things can change pretty quickly at that age group. Either way, Winds of Winter is coming soooo slowly, that its almost a challenge at this point. And the ending is usually the hardest to write for many writers, because you have to tie all the loose ends together. For GRRM that could be almost impossible with all the characters and all (needs to kill most of them in Winds of Winter :D :D :D )

[@davidwilson6577]

Literally no way, seeing as the Night King doesn't exist.

[@54markl]

Yes, the tooth fairy wrote this floppy denouement. Do you expect the books to have a better ending? Guess again.

[@JohnyFirst]

How boring is a rewatch going to be when you know the whole previous episode where you think this will be the last happy moment with all of these characters... But they're all ok

[@goran77ish]

It was boring watching it for the first time. To many fan service and reminding us stuff we already know. Stock writing at the best.

[@Zaroff85]

Just as boring watching it again knowing that they all die? What’s your point

[@stanleymetzger987]

John Dyer if they all died it would add stakes to every conversation they had in the previous episode, where it was inferred that it was going to be their last night alive. Now that everyone is alive, the entire “we’re going to die tomorrow” is pointless

[@Zaroff85]

Brice Race if everyone dies, cersi wins and the show is over at the end of episode 3. No show ever ends with evil wining. The night king has been defeated, he was the embodiment of evil. Cersi is evil and she will be dead.

[@jeffdaman6969]

That’s why I thought 2 episodes of everyone chatting was too much.

[@alexandercummins]

If your a person who lives in the south a farmer, fisherman, a local guy. During the season 1st you would think the white walkers were a made up tale. In the 8th season you would still think this!

[@Strollerist]

hahaha

[@devilshila5588]

The citadel is going to kill Sam for wasting their time with "white walkers myth" even for a second. They were RIGHT. The old boring masters, we were hoping to see eat their words now... were right. So we will have to eat our words

[@JohnSmithClark]

Yeah they pretty much bring that up in next episode.

[@epoynopamug149]

Remember when Tyrion joked to them that they might survive this war? Everyone inside that room did survive. Well he was done talking to Bran before that.

[@eduardmazilescu3846]

Yeah, sure. That's the reason he almost killed himself

[@BasedinReality1984]

Epoy Nopamug agreed ! BUT then he should have known all the dead Stark’s were gonna come back to life.

[@honnaconna7312]

Epoy Nopamug 🤣 touché

[@TheDeadlyefx]

good catch!

[@Funky159]

I think the problem with this episode is not the fact that too many main characters survived but the way they survived. And obviously that first suicide charge. Yooo wtf?! Oooh and am i the only one who was screaming at the screen when the worlds shittiest mother of dragons almost lost here second one just by standing in AN OPEN FIELD WITH THE DEAD RISING ALL AROUND?!?!?

[@TheRoleplayer40k]

-PRIOR- - dude the plot demanded she get off her dragon to save Jorah The dragons should have just sat at the battlements spewing fire over them at the dead, No need to even fly around

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

yeah i agree 7 characters died. The problem was surrounded by zombies & yet next scene they were fine. I feel they sacrificed sensibleness for feelings. The calvalry charge made no sense but it was awesome to see it snuffed out. Daenrys did nearly lose a 2nd dragon in a stupid way but it was done more for the feeling of suffocation & drama

[@a11abubeck]

-PRIOR- - YES!!! Me and my brother were screaming “fly bitch” “ why are you just chilling there” “ shes going to get her dragon killed”

[@SolarDragon007]

What's even dumber about the Dothraki charge is that last season, Daenerys actually made a good strategic move by torching the Lannister forces with her dragon first, then sending in the Dothraki to slaughter the injured/disoriented stragglers. Why did she send her cavalry to their deaths instead of using her dragon, (for which the wights have no means of fighting back against), to soften up the enemy first?

[@MrSheduur]

Yeah the episode was really weak overall. Alot of near angle swinging of swords, almost no vision at the stuff that was happening due to the storm effect, the fight with the dragons was just super confusing to look at, and the night king was just a walking plot device with godmode enabled. The whole living army seemed to have no clue about warfare and tactics. A cavalry charge into a suspecting army? Cavalry has one purpose, and that is to flank an opponent that is already involved with other elements of your army, and just eat the enemy up from the flank by waltzing through them. It made no sense to just charge into them, especially when you know that they can basically just raise your losses after you wasted your men for nothing. And then later on they stand on the battlements, without shooting flaming arrows at the dead who just stand there waiting to get shot? And even better, when they climb the wall, the living do not throw oil and tar at them to ignite them? Nah, that would have been too easy :) The end was a good joke. Arya probably catapulted herself to where she came from, flying over the whole keep and landing on the kings arm... because how else did she actually just fly out of nowhere.

[@kekero540]

“One of the key storylines” Really I must have been lead to believe it was the MAIN storyline.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

The supposed apocalypse is less important than a iron throne... Ok

[@sophonax661]

Visuals 9.5/10 (it wasn't too dark on my screen and I saw everything I needed) Story 1/10 So, Cersei is more dangerous than the NK? Did Westeros build a magical Wall to keep Cersei Lannister at bay? Can Cersei increase her army by resurrecting the bodies of fallen soldiers? Can Cersei manipulate the weather? Does Cersei ride on an undead dragon? ... ... Cersei is such an underwhelming final boss.

[@jackoblllllllll]

finally some person with either good TV/monitor or a good rip

[@LordSleepy99]

Sopho Nax Does the Night King give a shit about Cersei to be honest? In season 7, we saw how close the Night King and his army were to the wall, now it simply survival. Cersei wouldn’t risk any of her troops fighting a war that may kill everything she’s built. She would rob them of that change, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she finally drinks that poison. I would’ve liked this episode way more of the Night King wasn’t involved. Like we lose characters, but most of the important characters live, and the Night King still lives. Then he’ll show up later halfway through the battle for King’s landing, and it would be a huge surprise as everyone after this episode would be nervous because the Night King didn’t show up.

[@sophonax661]

@@LordSleepy99 As far as I understand the NK doesn't care about any particular human at all, except Bran who is not really human anymore. Maybe he had some vague interest in Jon, judging by their long stares at each other, but in the end I guess it was just about killing every human in Westeros. I absolutely agree, it wouldve been scary as hell if the NK wouldnt have appeared in Winterfell. The remaining survivors could have managed a last second escape on the two dragons, maybe one of them controlled by Bran. One or two main characters should have died for sure. They gather their remaining forces on Dragonstone or the Iron Islands, helplessly watching the army of the dead reaching the South and continuously growing. Just as an idea... but tbh so many different versions would have been better than what they've done!

[@LordSleepy99]

Sopho Nax Well kinda the idea, but entirely. Most of the Night King’s army would be dead and he just shows up later with a smaller army to clean up the rest of the humans while they kill each other. This would show how intelligent the Night King truly is. I would’ve like some more characters to die, and well to have anybody actually be seriously injured to the point to where they can’t fight in the next battle, but that’s just me. Also if I were to direct this episode and rewrite it. I would’ve had a similar outcome except the Night King wouldn’t have died. Grey worm would die while defending the retreat, Tormund would’ve been injured after killing the undead Giant, Lady Mormont would be alive as she would be in the crypt helping Terion, and the other fight off the dead starks, Sansa would’ve actually killed a wight, the Hound would’ve been seriously injured as he would be defending a horde of wights from getting to Arya, The Night watch commander would’ve died later in the battle defending the crypt and Sam, Podrick would’ve died defending Brienne, Jaime would’ve been injured, and maybe other character deaths, but that’s what I would change.

[@MistahJay7]

@@sophonax661 If it was about killing all in westeros then why the fuck is he going up to bran personally. Is he a dumb ass or did the writers completely break the rules of this univers. THE GENRALS OF THE ARMY OF THE DEAD ALWAYS STAY BACK. never once as he engaged up close in personally to expose himself. FUCKING GARBAGE WRITING. i cringed when i saw he was in the episode

[@mukeshsaxena5603]

Bran was watching Avengers EndGame all that time.

[@febuary1497]

Yea fuckin thanos shouldve snap all got characters

[@kennethsmith2030]

My favorite comment

[@urorazbojnik5678]

The writers did too, because you can see the cheesy cliche bullshit playing key part in both....Tony wielding all 6 stones like they're skittles = Arya flying over thousand dead units and killing the main villain she didn't knew existed for 7 seasons until yesterday.

[@IwinMahWay]

You have 3 hours to live Bran Stark:

[@kaloryfer99999]

The best fucking comment.

[@kleindropper]

It's amazing how 5 (6?) people on the front line lines outside the castle not only survived the initial charge of wights but made it back into the castle and lived.

[@goran77ish]

Realism is thrown out of the window long, long time ago. Just roll with it. Why would you place bulk of your troops outside anyway? There are this big things called walls that make defending easy. Why would you charge into enemy you can't even see? After season 3 they went more and more into superhero territory with some characters.

[@FearOgre]

Plot armor saves many

[@stevenkaceykacey1]

@@goran77ish castles usually hold a Garrison not an army of 50k

[@samchaleau]

They're just constantly telling all the nubs who died to "Get gud".

[@goran77ish]

@@stevenkaceykacey1 usually yes but this time it could be an exception. Night King wanted to kill them all that night and having 50k people and surrounded in the castle is a bad thing if it lasts for days.

[@WellThatWasLameLL]

pretty much as soon as i saw like three people in a row get overrun with wight walkers and live, i checked completely out. 5/10

[@aroundthegoodworld]

This episode was "The Last Jedi" of GOT... Incredible cinematography, climactic battle and unimaginable visuals BUT Lame writing and story telling than any other episode

[@NickAlekseyevich]

Exactly the feeling I got of it

[@ajarnloma3368]

Around The Good World more Phatom Meance to me good thing Arya has a high midichlorian count

[@calipachanguero]

I said the exact same fucking thing.

[@grumpysorc3744]

GoT battle style is absolutely unique, but The Last Jedi had pretty mediocre cinematography, visuals, etc. Worst in SW, imao.

[@Dulraen]

That's what I thought too... They both killed the real threat in a lame way trying to be "unpredictable" and left a crappy villain for the end.

[@chase157]

Night King: Slays a dragon, resurrects the dead, demonstrates his godlike power. A dagger: Yeet

[@Darion350]

That's not even the problem. Killing a god-like character with a seemingly insignificant weapon is powerful if it's done the right way. It would show the villain had gotten so big that they overlooked things they consider beneath them only to die by that very thing. It's just the way the show went about using Arya to turn on super-assassin mode and kill him in the nick of time was cheap and unsatisfying for me.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Arrogance can make you beleive you can be invincible.

[@blackxfoxx9815]

@xxxTennisballs true and besides all I thought the episode is one of the best battles so far on the show and the scale of it tho was awesome

[@Darion350]

@xxxTennisballs I think the problem is that there was no build-up to his death. He just... died. While that may be more realistic in a sense there was no real emotion tied to the scene. She just appeared out of nowhere and killed him during a low point of the show. Like I said, I had no problem with the method in which he died (stabby stabby) but it just felt out of place at the time to make an emotional impact. I don't think killing him before he could hack a cripple to pieces was the best way he could have gone.

[@MrWowtanking]

@xxxTennisballs Ummm...no. Arya didn't have plenty of time to set herself up for the attack. It's not that Arya killed him... it's the fact that she passed through 100 undead soldiers and his generals undetected, faster than the speed of light and killed him. Making her so overpowered is bad character development. Man the war is over! Just send Arya in Carcei's palace and kill her in her sleep. If she can catch the NK ,surrounded by hundreds of his army, by surprise then she can surely just sneak in the palace and take her out.

[@tuna8129]

hey guys we destroyed the ring and killed sauron now lets go and fight with raccons in frodos garden

[@ericfrolov148]

So true lmao. Reminded me of Babylon 5 series, where they reached the climax at season 4 by fighting the supreme evil arachnid race, and then for season 4 it was earth politics. I totally couldnt make myself watch it to the end. Not because it was bad, i was just soaked of emotions after the s4 epic. Same shit with GOT now. Who cares if Cercei or Denny wins? Humanity lives anyway. The ultimate fight should have been life vs death.

[@Bobby.B619]

LMAO .... genius

[@NotBatman101]

Saruman...

[@tuna8129]

@Deus Costa lmao rly ???? im glad they didnt put that shit in movie... fucking stupid...

[@KalCraig]

@Deus Costa True, but that was more of an epilogue. It was to show how far the 4 hobbits had come that they could take back the shire.

[@Pillock25]

Jon shouldn't have survived the battle field when the Night King re-animated the dead he would've been surrounded by hundreds if not thousands, honestly everyone should've died at that point.

[@jeffdaman6969]

Yeah, that was a poorly shot scene. Dany or even jons own dragon should have been there to save him. They cut away and when they came back to Jon he thinned them out considerably. How? Then dany saves him.

[@zakkemp9383]

The dragon did save him though.

[@Pillock25]

@@zakkemp9383 True but well after John McClane, sorry I meant Jon Snow, I don't know why I was thinking of Die Hard, anyway once he kills hundreds on his own, the dragon comes. Remember season 7 capturing the wight, he was tackled down by 3 or 4, lucky for him they broke threw the ice. Most of the cast should have died considering the numbers involved and how relentless they are. It just seems to unreal to me.

[@DoubleJayU]

@@Pillock25 so you would have them all die. Then the NK moves to King's Landing and does the same with cercei. The end. Very exciting TV right there. No one saw it coming.

[@Pillock25]

@@DoubleJayU I don't particularly want to see anyone die, I'm just saying that with the overwhelming situations most found themselves in, most should be dead, the writing was poor in that sense. It was more about the action and less about is it believable.

[@megamovieman101]

Sam honestly pissed me off in this episode. He gets Edd killed, then he just scurries away and almost dies AGAIN, Jon leaves him for dead and Sam is somehow STILL ALIVE. If he was going to fight, be realistic here. Either he's dead, or he's wounded.

[@kianyt5804]

People saying they are "fine with Arya killing the night king but..." but I can't even give the writers that. Arya killing the night king makes ZERO sense from a thematic and character development perspective. Arya's arc is more specific than just "becoming an assassin", its about revenge and vendetta. This begins in season 1 when Ned (and Syrio Forel) dies and becomes exacerbated by her contact with the hound, who teaches her to kill, not for any greater good, as she adopts his moral cynicism, but for her own self-reliance and the pleasure of killing those who cross you (think of the chickens scene). This self-serving view of killing is what leads her to clash with the faceless men, as she is unable to separate her sense of self from the act of killing and unwilling to sacrifice her identity because this would mean burying the hatchet and ditching her list. Her character is completely driven by revenge, just look at the first thing she does upon returning to Westeros for evidence. As soon as she returns to Winterfell, however, she becomes an overpowered, one-dimensional character who is a "Beast" and a "slay queen", which the writers basically use as a trump card whenever they need to write themselves out of a corner. "Need someone to outsmart the most cunning man in Westeros and kill him? Arya!" "Need someone to kill the greatest threat to mankind that we spent 8 years building up as the main villain? Arya! She's a really good assassin you see? She was blind for a month and twirled a stick around!". And to anyone trying to justify this with the Melisandre "god of death" or "eyes shut forever" callback, that has to be the most pathetic excuse I've ever seen. They were clearly retroactive as those were obviously meant to foreshadow the faceless men storyline. And Bran giving her the dagger? I can't think of a more arbitrary act. He could've given it to anyone, why not someone who's character development is consistent with killing the night king like Jon, Jaime, hell even Brienne. Overall a huge failure in writing. D and D just shat on the entire ice and fire series.

[@nekmood]

Kian YT at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Arya got the Iron Throne

[@DomBogey94]

"We didnt jon to be the hero in this moment", their excuse. I'm so with you. Horrible writing.

[@nathankundert8803]

Arya didn’t fight the NK in a sword fight she snuck past everyone and “assassinated” him. Makes perfect sense to me as far as her story arch she was the deadliest person there and was the most capable. Not a failure in writing just because you didn’t get to see Jon snow fight the night king? The episode was directed better than anything cinema has seen and I’m sick of Whiny ass amateurs critics who claim this is a failure. What a joke

[@TheGamingg33k]

@@nathankundert8803 Stfu boy. Just because it was directed better than any cinema that you have seen doesnt mean its a good episode. The story that was built up since Season 1 has been shat on gutted. Remember when Jon Snow first fought a white walker and the NK just watched him in amazement? Yeah wtf happened to that NK? That was clearly a foreshadowing of the fight that is to come. They always kept meeting each other but never fought, Jon always found a way to escape NK. NOW, FINALLY, when Jon is ready to fight against the white walkers, tell me why the fuck did NK not fight Jon Snow. This was supposed to be the biggest showdown between the dead and living personified in NK and Jon. Instead, we get arya assassinating NK out of the blue and no one even raised a sword to stop her. How pathetic and lazy. If you enjoy visual effects then this episode is gonna be perfect for you.

[@AllThings_Gaming-c1m]

TheGamingg33k the worst type of subverting expectations gone so wrong on many levels. All the Unsullied and Dorathki and House soliders died leaving only the Main heroes in the Court yard fending for their lives against a Tsunami of undead 🧟‍♀️ and Sam cries on top a pile of corpses lol

[@mavseveneightnine7379]

Also "500 men can defend winterfell against 10,000". Lets put our entire army outside the walls......

[@KTMICD2]

but can 8 thousand dickless men defend winterfell against 100 thousand wights?. Ned didn't consider that.

[@highlordxeleth]

If they would have kept their entire army inside: First not enough room obviously, we're talking tens of thousands. Second: The dead would have done the same thing with the wall except it would have been much more crowded inside and thus easier for the dead to land kills and smother them, again those guys only need the numbers. Once they're on the walls, the castle has basically fallen, no matter your numbers as it becomes a death trap. Especially in this case.

[@mavseveneightnine7379]

@@highlordxeleth This is the hardest reach i have ever read.

[@roshi98]

@@mavseveneightnine7379 Just because you don't understand tactics doesn't mean other people are reaching. One question. What was the MAIN objective in this battle from the Winterfell side?

[@highlordxeleth]

@@mavseveneightnine7379 At least maybe I have educated you a tad bit :)

[@JinxMoody]

I completely agree with all this. I can’t believe we’re done with the White Walkers and the Night King. The plot armour is real thick lol

[@mordor1779]

I'm so glad to see I'm not the only one thinking that, 8 fucking seasons of teasing this mysterious and terrifying night king raising the dead and coming south, what does he wants ? What is going to be revealed about him that's going to blow our minds ? Holy shit even dragon fire can't kill him !! They have no chance, he's like a fucking GOD !! Oh wait he just go killed by a 16 years old girl who somehow managed to sneak pass his 3000 wights and 100 white walkers and killed him with a valyrian steel dagger, when valyrian steel is made from dragon fire, and the night king is immune to dragon fire, ok... Biggest disappointment ever

[@Steelers4Life47]

Oxycontin. That dragon fire scene was so anti climatic, basically just there as a callback to brans comment abt it, the Vulnerability of the NK seems to vary based on whose attacking him, like make the dagger Injure him not single shot kill him from a leg shot? I mean the fuck if they o had the cgi to make the NK walk around, briefly ride a dragon, then die

[@cthulhuwayne7022]

It's been 8 seasons, why are you surprised? This show was never gonna end the way we wish it would.

[@snwlcke3]

The Lannisters are more effective then the White Walkers...LMAO. I'll do you one better. Theon and his raiding party was more effective then the White Walkers they actually captured Winterfell.

[@iassinjar1537]

“No one important” Y’all gunna do my boy Theon like that

[@yimpyoi9808]

Hommy Rodriguez his arc was complete. After that he served no purpose

[@hommyrodriguez3280]

That's exactly my point. There were many completed stories that weren't done justice. The Night King ended up being a joke. He deserved better. Arya deserved a smarter kill. Jon deserved to not be utterly useless. Daenerys deserved to not be utterly useless. Sam is now just completely annoying and useless. He couldn't even die protecting his wife? He couldn't even get the courage to protect her? Tyrian was useless. Sansa was useless. Brianne died 50 times but not really. Grey Worn the same. Tormund the same. Like really wtf. The only people that did anything important were the red lady that shows up out of no where and Arya with her magical flying abilities?! Loved watching the episode but the writing was not great. They rushed this. It deserved better.

[@DarkBykeTwitch]

Theon is a traitor and should have died a few seasons ago.

[@arthurrose4578]

@@hommyrodriguez3280 I thought Brienne with her character arc was done last episode too, would have been fitting for her to die a knight. Fuck that though we'll just live with Sir Friendzone and little miss Mormont, lol. Maybe they just forgot about her. How about if Sansa and Tyrion actually did kill each other out of hopelessness? Imagine the grief next episode when people discovered them (assuming the living win). So much could have been done and so little was, it's a shame really. Only 7 years of investment gone though, no big deal.

[@ravenwhiteduck3158]

@@arthurrose4578 with investment comes impact, and this episode needed impact, and yes brienne should have went or jaime to really give the episode that extra ummpf

[@ggom603]

Lemme get this straight. The wights could hear Arya’s drops of blood but not her fighting her way and running towards their king? Smh got

[@redpandarampage2191]

And wights can punch through stone but not break out of a wood box last season. What a joke.

[@brunobarbosa4457]

They can hear drops of blood in quiet environments. and as for the wights punching the wall, there were thousands of them, there was only one in the box.

[@nick190796]

@@brunobarbosa4457 i think he means the crypts dude. Where each individual wight punched through their stone coffins

[@209DaddyMack]

It seemed like in that scene all the wights were basically idling. They also didn’t move when Theon charged the night king. So my guess is the night king stopped controlling the wights to focus most (if not all) his power on bran. What was stupid to me is the generals let that lil girl sneak passed them and kill their leader

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

@@209DaddyMack No one sneaked passed them. Arya is a servant of the many faced god. watch previous seasons

[@MarkArandjus]

_"Boy, after 7 years of hype I can't wait for the whitewalkers to be defeated in one battle so we can then go to war with Cersei some more!"_ said no one ever.

[@MBSilva]

boy when they said last season was gonna have 6 episodes, you should have knows they were gonna wrap up the long night REALLY FAST. Yeah it was silly, but you should be expecting that. Leave it to the books to give the battle against winter a good closure, this was to be expected really... the show writers no longer have book material to work with, nor enough time to give us what we wanted, simple as that

[@TheRealGeorgeGibson]

Bradyn Lawrence are a idiot or a idiot. It’s the writing that made them sooo stupid this episode.

[@coppershark1973]

Wight walkers...

[@MrLASSEssein]

I enjoyed the job of the Night Kings officers the most. They really did their job in the battle and we finally got to know more about them and their race in general...

[@sharpshoota8274]

I said that, I mean how stupid can u be to want to see undead walk around the whole fucking show. Finally back to people vs people battles and conflicts.

[@tamdangmarketing]

They had Jamie, Edison, Tormund, Brienne, the hound, Jon, Jorah, Grey Worm, Tyrion, Varys, Sir Davos have all been to war should yet they came up with zero strategy going in. The writers were lazy to not fully realised how the characters would actually react in a situation like this given their expertise.

[@CharlieWhite101]

Who's Edison?

[@Charlieknrr]

season 1-7 winter is coming, winter is coming, winter is coming aaannnnd winter came for an hour...

[@youngman2451]

@Rawr5649 LMAO. Winter is coming is literally the tag line of the show. The entire 7 seasons has been about how the show is about zombies that everyone should be worrying about... You really give a fuck to watch a normal battle against Cersei after that white walker fight lol... They did a good job in making me care about winter coming but the only problem is now idgaf about the other shit lol..

[@EpitomeTTV]

Such a long orgasm

[@devontejefferson6520]

All that build to end in one episode 😒

[@neinno8172]

@@youngman2451 But you haven't even watched it yet?

[@ravenwhiteduck3158]

Well technically one whole night and do you know the best part, they called the episode the long night XD I was expecting something I don't know longer and with way more characters dying

[@mosabzahedi6416]

Let's just charge a bunch of light cavalry into a wall of walking corpses all in complete darkness. What's the worst that could happen? For two years, I was waiting to see the dothraki flank the dead. A lot of them would have died in the end anyway, but it would have been more satisfying and more tactically sane.

[@Autechltd]

Cavalry charges work by causing fear during the charge, causing men to flee then running down the routing formation. Almost never works with disciplined infantry formations irl, even with super heavy cavalry. Extremely vulnerable when unsupported, surrounded and outnumbered. *charges into a sea of infantry that feels no fear*

[@magua9563]

Yep should have been used as harassing units. Almost as egregious was when you put artillery on the frontline as well as the trenches/firepits behind us? ... why...?

[@dushikorsou1]

I was expecting something along the lines of lord of the rings three kings not a suicidal head on charge into a undead army lol hell would have even been better if they just didn't use the horse at all lol

[@weisthor0815]

let´s add the burning trench BEHIND the main army and the catapults IN FRONT of the main army. they only shot once anyway. from a tactical point of view this episode was plain stupid.

[@Gungrave123]

They just instantly increased the numbers of the dead army. Guess they didn't play much WC3.

[@shqiperia60]

Summing up 50 minutes in two sentences: On a technical level, the episode was stunning. On a storytelling level, the episode was shit.

[@josephvanwyk2088]

Technical?? The entire world had to up their brightness on their screens.

[@ikon8275]

82 minutes and I agree. Seems like more characters should have died.

[@jeffdaman6969]

Ikon After two episodes of chatting about “this is the end” I thought the same thing.

[@lukasvermeulen1133]

@@josephvanwyk2088 hahaha i had 10 min of black screen

[@josephgeubtner]

Absolutely

[@petermcintyre2098]

So correct me if I'm wrong. The writer's sent the magnificent 7 north of the wall NOT to get a Wight for Cersie who they new would not turn up. But to provide the Night King with a dragon so he could get south of the wall. What a total waste of a whole storyline. Is that truely the best they could come up with.

[@aislingyngaio]

Imagine writing a storyline that involves going to final final boss (who has no skills except plot armour) and asking to team up to kill the level 2 boss (who has an undead army that expands everytime someone dies, and who has been canonically called the god of death).

[@elmatador8857]

Joe: What do you guys think of X? Others: Well I think--- Joe: BECAUSE I THINK.....!!!!

[@sloadsoap]

Elvin Rivera still not as bad as delrith

[@RawkL0bster]

Good, the commander should always have right of way.

[@ribottostudio]

oh come on joe's getting better at not interrupting lol

[@middleeasternpennsylvanian8398]

Ace Coordinator Mary not really he’s an egomaniac

[@savions4005]

Elvin Rivera At least it’s not as bad as delrith. He doesn’t know how to shut up

[@TheOsamaBahama]

The previous episode was all about the characters facing their imminent death. The gloom atmosphere and characters bonding before the end. Only to (almost) all of them survive at the battle. Totally anti-climatic.

[@gpolenik]

the previous episode sucked and was basically filler. The dialogue had punchlines like a fucking marvel movie. Horrible writing

[@singmysin]

Wouldv been fan service in my opinion everyone either wanted or expected all these people wanted them to die plus it's unpredictable no expected all them to survive

[@thegameneededme5]

@@gpolenik If you think an episode of character moments is bad filler, you're asking for a different show than they've been giving you for the last 8 years. The entire show has built up to those characters coming together like that. That's what this show is- characters from different walks of life interacting with one another while the threat of imminent death marches toward them.

[@dommydarko994]

6 characters died and there's 3 more episodes with death coming. Chill

[@wildwest1832]

but but that is the game of thrones. Unexpected plot armor no one saw coming! Its like the opposite of the red wedding! dont you see the brilliance and complexity?

[@thelegendarychickenchaser3194]

Bran went AFK the whole match and still gets carried wtf???

[@iron6672]

You stole that one from 4chan.

[@1911Zoey]

fucking slacker is what he is

[@thefrogeats2428]

The Legendary Chicken Chaser I'll try that tactic when I'm playing cod or battlefield.

[@yourdadsotherfamily3530]

*hodor has left the chat*

[@masrvneck4201]

Still think he was the white walker "helping everyone unite"

[@emanuelgonzalez1975]

THE NIGHT KING DIDNT EVEN GET TO PULL HIS SWORD FROM THE DAMN SHEATH !

[@milesinwyatteandcora]

Lol I totally forgot about that, well man it's good that this is the final season before this becomes a trend

[@lachy6178]

this is the equivalent of thanos dying halfway into infinity war and loki is the main bad guy for endgame

[@aquaphazed]

Also like Snoke was treated in the Last Jedi.

[@pcyxishw]

More like Ultron, even Loki would be more of a threat than Cercei! :D

[@-dvmakesdo1780]

it's like hollywood has forgotten what makes a good villain and the context of that villain within the world they created.....but they sure got they subversion of expectations BS down pat.

[@ex2c8]

Bullshit😂

[@PKdororo]

@@-dvmakesdo1780 I mean Night King was never a good villain in the show(but I also never read the books so no idea if GRRM had developed him in some way we didn't get to see.) However, its not like the show doesn't know how to make a good villain. Cersei is a phenomenal Villain. Her development from the first episode of being a complicit lover, to a proactive tyrant has been amazing. I mean if you had 6 episodes this season to wrap everything up, good luck making the Night King a good villain while trying to resolve every other plot point before the finale.

[@MWBalls]

I'll be honest. After the last Jedi i dont think its possible for me to be shocked by terrible battle plans or incompetent military leaders.

[@pred3008]

Or shitty writing in general :(

[@pracitus]

Incompetent writers

[@joshualittlewolfe8550]

Emilia Barzini Lmao. Nah they aren’t. Real battle are usually much more action packed and epic than shit from Hollywood.

[@TheControlBlue]

WINTER IS COMING! But only for an hour...

[@seanjay1585]

Smh lmao

[@RoninDave]

stamina issues

[@Dave-mk9bw]

Why would you ever leave the walls of Winterfell?

[@lazyskull7949]

@@Dave-mk9bw because the writers are retards. these are 'generals' in an army and they stick all their troops in the front of the damn wall. and they retreat like 5 minutes later once they (obviously) start to get slaughtered.

[@aldotrapani8241]

How to not die in GOT 1. Be a noticeable character, but don't have any ambition 2. Take no sides no matter what 3. Be at Winterfell during the battle with the night king

[@danb4900]

Edd died though

[@lazyskull7949]

@@danb4900 he's hardly a noticeable character. had to look up his name, couldnt remember it.

[@MrStolboy]

My boy Night King: - alive for thousands of years - can bring back the dead - has a massive army - is able to easily kill a dragon - took the dragon and destroyed the Wall that stood for millennium - is immune to dragon fire - dies with a stab

[@MrStolboy]

@Mind of the North Star still the scene was garbage

[@xpisporshotx]

@Mind of the North Star irrelevant

[@AlejandroGonzalez-wo5fk]

That just shows you that Valar Morgulhis

[@stephendean3737]

He was made by a simple stab from dragonstone whilst pinned to a Weirwood tree. Made by the children of the forest to wipe humankind from the world (backfired!). I think this was the only way to kill him. In the same way as he was made. Bran knew this and that is why he sat under the tree as bait.

[@MM-mx2zt]

To think all this time all they needed was to get a faceless man to kill the night king, would have saved millions

[@wayne4797]

Bran to Theon, I'm proud of you, go sacrifice yourself, I'm just going to sit here and play Raven simulator 2000

[@MuzzYADam]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂DED.

[@sn2967]

He checked out to watch Endgame

[@ravenwhiteduck3158]

Lol good one!

[@notalaeyt784]

Stop stealing jokes from reddit and twitter mate.

[@eurosn7322]

Nah the Ravens are distraction,he was watching Endgame

[@301SO]

Arya: It's over night king, I have the high ground. Night King: oh fek

[@Vahisofficial]

I thought i saw nk stabbing Arya to the throat. I wouöd have been less dissapointed if arya died at the process... But noooooo.

[@Revan-eb1wb]

@Irish Rover no

[@Revan-eb1wb]

@Irish Rover more like bad script writing killed the nk

[@toddhoward1133]

Ketunloikka I agree Arya should have died in the process dammit that would have been better

[@Dulraen]

This should have been a victory for the night king. GOT owed him that much. The final battle should have been in kings landing. "Winter is coming", you know?

[@ilovecapitalism1776]

The NK in kings landing was what I was waiting for. I wanted to see cerceis face...

[@Olsens13]

@@ilovecapitalism1776 god that would’ve been fuckin epic if the NK slayed his way all the way South. To see all the other Holds’ reaction to Winter coming to each of their houses. Untapped potential.

[@itsjustjuan8239]

Someone in the GoT production team needs to play a total war game

[@GlitteringToothpaste]

Lmao yeah, not supporting your (light!) cavalry and letting them get surrounded is how you lose every single man in the formation.

[@ItsBearD]

That’s what happens when you get offered a Star Wars trilogy. You rush the last season of a show that gave you that opportunity.

[@-dvmakesdo1780]

what's worse is they would have done it with useless weapons if mel hadn't happened along....awful stratagem.

[@TheGamesaga]

A civilization or xcom based game would work too.

[@d0mthedon378]

right? ususally you use cavalry for flanking

[@transonicgnat5872]

You have Sam literally crying while everyone's getting dog piled. His plot armor was to strong.

[@helterskelter9020]

Too strong

[@MacSmithVideo]

talk about anticlimactic. This show never fails to disappoint me. But MY EXPECTATIONS WERE SUBVERTED!

[@Ryan_Parmelee]

100% agree.

[@ribottostudio]

honestly like he was all "let me fight" then "oh god why did i fight?" lol

[@Sapphire_Jack]

Sam was supposed to die but got saved by his plot armor 4 or 5 times..... same with Brienne (Female Knight)

[@NikoZombie]

Remember Arthur Dayne? One of the greatest swordsman in GOT getting owned by Ned and 2 other dudes...here Jaime with no good hand survives a onslaught of wights like it was nothing. You said it Joe, this is sadly not Game Of Thrones anymore.

[@TheHonestTruth]

:(

[@oshin_aykaz6889]

Im sorry but Dayne had the upper hand the whole fight and was toying with Ned and co. He simply got backstabbed

[@protato911]

I stop treating this show based on the expectation of the books after season 4 and I have to say I saw quite a lot of problems with it onward. But regardless I still enjoy the show for what it's and this is quite a decent episode with amazing scenes and some major problems. A 6.5 for me.

[@NikoZombie]

@@oshin_aykaz6889 either way he got killed. The thing is no matter how good you are if you make a mistake you are dead and in a sense that happened to the NK in the lamest way possible.

[@FlashlightGamingArmy]

@@NikoZombie so they were supposed to kill of most main characters here? What the fuck were they gonna do for the rest of the season?

[@fleckbigsby5432]

Just wait, next episode they're going to pull another 40,000 troops out of their ass and try to convince us everybody didn't actually get wiped out. Post-Episode 4 Update: Well, I wasn't wrong.

[@nicholas4436]

"we lost half of the unsullied" - there's literally like 10 people alive in the castle. Not even kidding, watch towards the end of the battle and there's no way there is 4000 unsullied left. There's one left, Grey Worm. You can count the main characters and I'm pretty sure you can see one guy wearing a northerner helmet that's it. Euron's Ballista killed more Unsullied than the wights did -_-

[@fleckbigsby5432]

@@nicholas4436 Exactly what I'm sayaing.

[@nicholas4436]

@@fleckbigsby5432 Yeah it's just shitty writing this season

[@moneyguyfly6583]

Wait! Are you the real Brian Stark foreshadowing horrible writing and poor execution to this final season?

[@ggom603]

It’s not that I’m mad about not losing characters, but how many god damn times can you show a character almost dying and then have them saved last second by another character? Like 8 or 9 times?

[@J1Farkus]

Sam died like 4 times, brien died twice, jamie died once, but then scenes later, were fine. I even swear to god I saw tormund get dragged down by wights and then 2 scenes later was stood up killing more.

[@ggom603]

Farkus yup

[@Tclbmx_]

@@J1Farkus Tbh I couldnt see shit on this episode lol it was so dark that sometimes I thought my monitor had issues hahaha

[@wintermeme7092]

Yeah. While I was watching I was legit doing the predictions in my head. At one point I said out loud "They bait-and-switched us too many times with Sam, he lives." Really disappointing

[@BRWednesday]

Agreed

[@BlameMyPartner]

Man, the Night King is just one big wasted character....all he ever did was stare at people and raise his hands... I know this may seem kinda cliche or whatever but they should've had him just walk through the battle and just have him slaughtering a shit ton of people with ease, then have an epic battle with jon, and just before he kills bran and jon THEN have Arya show up. But thats just me.

[@dillonvillon]

I totally agree...there seemed to be so much to him, and now gone....i have to admit, I was a little pissed....

[@Dionizos666]

Yes it would be dumb and cliche....same crying like with Luke that he didnt had an epic battle and was ont throwing Star Drestroyers from the sky.....Entire episode was already an epic battle so stop crying. And Night King was scarier that way he was,no evil speeches about stroyign the world,just walking foward with silence and death behind him like a force of nature.

[@cortd5273]

Like Sauron in LOTR Fellowship of the Ring.

[@BlameMyPartner]

@@Dionizos666 Epic battle where nobody important died. This whole series was never afraid to kill off main characters then this episode happens. This episode should've showed how truly terrifying the Night King should be..but nope.

[@BlameMyPartner]

@Rawr5649 Well i expected him to die this episode, but not the way he did. I wish he actually did something this episode.

[@YoungAsznee]

The battle seemed like it's someone's first time playing age of empires and just sends out the whole cavalry to die without a plan

[@TheBarser]

muahaha I am gonna throw fire enchantment on my cavalry and send them straight to your line. How do you like that? 10 sec later they are dead. Ok then.

[@Aeralea]

Omg yes thankyou!!! Everyone is saying how amazing the episode was and all I'm thinking was I hope whoever came up with these battle plans got slaughtered like the useless bitch they are.

[@bosinclaire7670]

Better yet charging them into the anti cav units.. then forgetting to cycle charge them..

[@Rantsnrambles808]

I couldn’t help but laugh when I remember they had the strategy meeting where they were outnumbered like 100-1

[@mpihler]

All though I agree, it is clearly stated that the dothraki excells at open field combat and I think they underestimated the number I'm whites ahead.

[@jamesedward3619]

The Night King should have killed Bran. The zombie dragon should have breathed fire on Jon, but Jon should have survived, proving 100% that he's a Targaryen, then killed the zombie dragon. After that though, the survivors should have all had to retreat to King's Landing.

[@sephmato2377]

I like the fire immunity part. That wouldve made a lot of sense.

[@PreggoJohn]

wait am I seeing better writing & plot relevance in a 2-line youtube comment than a $90 million professional crew?

[@BIGD-cc7ru]

True, but does the fire thing count if it’s a white Walker dragon or no?

[@MrBurtbackerack]

Walder Frey killed more characters than the Night King did. Good job...

[@louispazdan727]

No, no he didn't.

[@ScottishRebel]

yea no thats not true he alone killed 99 babies turning them into white walkers killed a dragon commanded his army to kill 60 thousand arya killed more than walder frey

[@theveteransergeant]

He said killed more *characters*. Not more background extras, you goofs.

[@AlphaSAS]

Stfu

[@MrBurtbackerack]

@@theveteransergeant Yeah you're right, I should have specified for the spastics

[@saulgoodman8788]

imagine if Melisandre didnt come up, they would still let the dothraki charge without the flaming swords i didnt see any dragonglass weapons jeses christ what happened to this show

[@thiccboikarl5028]

Hollywood happened

[@monkeyfunk8371]

i noticed the same thing. Nobody knew the red lady was coming yet the dothraki were always in the front line with weapons that were no use against the enemy. It appears the battle plan was to gift the NK tens of thousands of Dothraki screamers before a single arrow had been fired Why the producers thought that the fan base wouldnt notice is beyond me. They really have given up by this point. Sadly the producers have the contract for the next 3 star wars films. They may do better with fooling children than they do adults who love fantasy

[@MrAskmannen]

You don't need dragonglass weapons to kill wights breh

[@dassevg]

@@MrAskmannen true. 👌

[@twgc84]

@Duck Cat the dragon glass is for the white walkers, not the zombies

[@besmarques]

Game of Thrones, the tv show that goes from "wut? they killed x character" to "wut? they didnt kill x character?"

[@malinko35]

can't please these sheep.

[@Opachki69420]

@@malinko35 that has nothing to do with it, the writers are literally changing the way the show plays out for no good reason

[@malinko35]

@@Opachki69420 they're changing how the show _plays out_ ? It almost sounds like you had perceived notion of what you expected to happen and then upset that it didn't. Welcome to game of thrones.

[@shadowblade1296]

@@Opachki69420 the show was about people and politics, not some damn zombie apocalypse show, the night king and the whites were always back drop to the character stories, if you haven't understood that now then you should jump off this ship

[@Arcexey]

Bruno Marques aka, 'the fans complain when the show isn't consistent with reality' sounds like consistent fans.

[@jaybird8192]

Winter was coming for 7-1/2 seasons, and was gone in 1 episode! Smh! Does anyone care who sits on the Iron throne anymore?

[@VeggieGamer]

Series 1 - 7 = "How the hell are we going to beat the White Walkers?!" Series 8 = "Oh... that was easy"

[@kylemurdock8034]

This comment deserves 1.8 billion 👍

[@Revan-eb1wb]

yup. 9 years for nothing

[@kyanhudson6831]

I don’t think that was easy...

[@johnnyw9922]

You know other than the thousands killed....

[@MagiBandaClown]

@@kyanhudson6831 lol more important gut wrenching moments was during a pot roast feast and had more essential characters die. This long night was a fucking joke.

[@CamilloFerreira]

That's it for the NK? The whitewalkers? That's it? I watched this thing since the pilot for that? Oh, man... =(

[@josuemonfort7922]

Seven seasons (and waiting 2 years for season 8) for the night king die like this. smh.

[@caiopereira1289]

Its never too late to start Reading the books! Do it!

[@SiddarthaTB]

Caio Pereira im on a feast for crows rn and its a million times better than the show, hopefully GRR Martin releases his book when the show ends

[@caiopereira1289]

@@SiddarthaTB wait until you reach dance with dragons, shit goes down fast

[@danielsimchuk7562]

Caio Pereira how much does the show deviate from the books so far? Thinking about picking it up but if its the same exact story I might not.

[@aecharliebish4027]

Thanks for a legit honest review. I hate the fact that everyone defends the show blindly. Especially to get on side with the fans who love the fan servicing. I am such a big fan of series, but this was such a typical type show episode. Epic Fight scenes and cinematics but where was the surprises and the game of thrones feel to it.

[@TheCrazierz]

I disagree. There are things that are wrong, it's not a perfect show and its not a perfect episode but I think they judge it a little too harshly. Alot of people died. And the ones that didnt, well many of then will die in the coming episodes. Doesnt make sense to kill almost everyone and have little to work with in the following episodes

[@aecharliebish4027]

@@TheCrazierz That's the problem the Night King and the whitewalkers should have caused the most havoc. This was supposed to be a war for the dawn, the real war but instead we get that ending. Anti climatic, fan servicing and illogical dumb stuff. A couple of low/mid tier characters that died against the greatest threat we've ever seen. Plot armor for most characters were huge. I'm going to be making my own review on it for 2moz anyway. So maybe I can explain better that way.

[@aecharliebish4027]

@Emilia Barzini 100% agree its opinions. My opinion is that the showrunners have catered towards the wider audience who just watch casually. They threw away many story arcs, plot points and the build up to just do fan service and shock value.

[@Dualitiy]

@@aecharliebish4027 I agree. I am a "real" fan of the GoT/A Song of Ice and Fire, not saying that I know everything, but I'm not your average joe, when it comes to that subject, either. I don't think that fans like this. Or at least not the ones that have a passion for good stories, books, movies and series. Which a lot of people lack. At least that's my impression. The more we love something, the more flaws we find in it. A lot of people don't understand why I'm so negative about the series (since s7), but GOT is not up to their own standards. It's not the series I fell in love with anymore. Don't get me wrong. I don't think it is trash now, but it's saddening to see what they do with the potential of the story and the characters. Speaking of which, the characters are a saving grace for me. While some lost their wit in the last seasons, probably due to lesser writers or the hastened paste (Tyrion, Varys, Little Finger for example), others continue to be great and have surpassed regressing characters like the aforementioned imo. GOT once surpassed other shows in its brilliant dialogue and characters, at times even in terms of realism. Others could only hope to get close to their level. Now it's quite the opposite. In terms of character development, believability it is even beyond average. At least if we're talking about series that at least try to be good. Not talking about the mass-produced trash that you watch while doing your chores, texting with friends etc.

[@Deno2100]

REASONS why Eps 3 was not a good Game of Thrones Eps, or battle scene. 2/10 (1) How did anyone know the dead were there, there was no scout warning, no horn blowing, nobody on a dragon calling them out, no Bran animal scouts. No sounds, no reason to believe the enemy was out on that field, which is at least a half mile deep. Then that Calvary just charges into the darkness with a bunch of flaming swords and no plan? Calvary is a very valuable asset in these battles. You wouldn't throw your cavalry away, if anything you would attempt to preserve them over other troop types because they are highly specialized and very mobile. (2) The artillery only fired once as the cavalry was charging in. That artillery should have started firing as soon as the enemy was in range and continued to fire throughout the whole battle until those positions were taken over. They are very powerful weapons against and army that is weak to fire. (3) The foot soldiers should have been on the walls or behind the gates. There is no reason to engage the enemy in open combat when outnumbered 25 to one. Sieges can be stopped by smaller dedicated forces that are organized an within the defenses. (4) Why hasn't anyone clothed the unsullied so that they could fight better in the cold? You swing a sword in those temperatures with your dick hanging out and you are going to pull a muscle. (5) Where are there archers? Again default to placing your units in defensive roles. (6) Why was there little to no defensive forces stationed inside the gates or on the walls, or protecting Bran? For these reasons and many others the battle had a frumpy pace, it wasn't intuitive and it was hard to watch. This frumpy pacing and terrible rational took attention away from the hopeless, sacrificial and horror like sensations they were trying to instill in the audience. Hero's are great and all, but when you kill them on screen for no reason or have them dying in terrible maneuvers its really hard to relate to their sacrifice. (7) John Snow doesn't get to face off against the Night King even though he was the only one in the whole show who was intentionally and actively undermining the Night King from his introduction. John Snow and the Knight King are mortal enemies. I for one wanted a show down. (8) Many hero's died but not as many as were needed to secure humanity until next winter. Their deaths were underwhelming and some just weren't treated as significant or insignificant as they should have been. (9) Many opportunities were missed for Danny to test Johns word with dragon fire. He was literally surrounded on all sides and all she had to do was drop some fire support right on him. It would have been hard for her, put it seemed like the natural choice for this character to test her lovers claim to the throne and it could have sent us all on an emotional roller coaster with her and set up their positions in the next episodes. What a missed chance. Also how has Danny still not learned to protect her dragons. She lets one get over run with zombies but even after all that I find it hard to believe that the dragon would have left its mother for dead. (10) Eight season building up to a show down between the living and the dead and they shot the whole thing in two battles, just two. You are telling me you have 9 castles on the wall and you are just going to defend this one. (11) Dragon fight was very meh, they missed a chance to have some amazing air combat, collateral damage and dragon on dragon ground brawls. (12) I love Arya, she is probably my favorite character but it simply wasn't her place to kill the Night King. Her whole arch has been her perfecting killing people that other cant. People in high places, like the Lanisters. She has been obsessed with her list and we all knew she would never kill all of those people but now we can safely assume she isn't killing Cercie which would have been extremely poetic seeing as Cercie is obsessed with armies and castles and thrones. She lacks respect for quite people, honor and justice. All the things Arya is, she lacks respect for these things. John Snow has been killing a lot of beasts and zombies and such, it just seems like a cheap gotcha moment in the series, or maybe its more political ideology seeping into our entertainment industry. (13) Theons death was sad, I actually liked him. He has more depth than most villains or hero's, his death was underwhelming. For some reason suddenly all of the Iron Born decided to engage their enemy on ground level with bows? I guess so they could have them run out of arrows? Which would have been an amazing contribution to a well manned wall being over run.....What do I know, I am not some big name director/writer. With the death of the One Night King being so badly set up it would have been ideal if Theone played some role in baiting the Night King. Other characters should have been seen laying the ground work either knowingly or unknowingly for this laughable assassination scene, at the very least. (14) I agree that a crypt suicide pact would have been amazing. It would have added some very sad weight to the next episode as the surviving character confronted their losses. Losing you sister and your hand would have fueled the remaining characters as they faced down the south, the traitors that didn't fight for humanity. (15) Oh and Grey Worm would NEVER have left his men. He would have stayed out there on the front line with them. He doesn't know defeat. He does know sacrifice. What are they doing to his character? (16) We learn nothing about the Night King, he doesn't get to fight, he says nothing...He is somehow killed off before the Ceirce. How is this possible!? He is the big bad terror in the night. Literally in his name and the long night is coming and you just kill him off? and his generals. None of those bad asses with their ice weapons could be bothered to fight our hero's and give them a hero's death. No instead our hero's die to a bunch of animated bones. The Night King takes a play from Snoke. Those writers should never write again, fire them all. I am done. I could go on and on, but I do think AJ is taking it really easy on GOT lately. It is clear they are rushing this season and every episode is just a huge let down. Not just to fans but to anyone who pays attention to how this material is produced.

[@KingKuma909]

Holy shit I cant argue this

[@mecha5409]

This is the best systematic take down of this episode I could ask for. I’m glad I’m not the only one who was baffled by the strategic side of the fight

[@joaocolisse6097]

I agree with most of the things you said, truth be told...just the first thing i am pretty sure by the end of episode 2 they sound the horn 3 times to signal white walkers...all the rest though i agree with you.

[@Safersephiroth777]

1)Pretty sure they heard them or had someone watch them. I mean it is not that the dead are silent or something. 2)I believe they stopped because they didn't wanted to hit their own people. 3)I believe they did that because Winterfell isn't that huge, all these people can't gather inside the city. 4)That makes sense even though I believe that they did that because you can move faster with light clothing. 5)There were some but you are correct. Fill the whole place! 6)For Bran I think that they believed they wouldn't reach him. And as I said above Winterfell isn't that big. 7)I agree there. 8)I would like for main characters to die true. 9)Guess in the heat of the batlle she can't think clearly because she isn't used to this. 10)The Forts in the Wall were always with few people. I believe out of the 14 only 3 were manned and these barely too. 11)This was done for budget reasons obviously. 12)Yeah seems strange. Man Arya isn't only the best in the world she can change into other persons too! Too strong! 13)His Arc was completed. He found redemption. 14)Too dark to tell the truth. 15)He deserves a happy ending I guess? 16)Yeah in the books the WW talk and such. Here they are monsters. Too bad.

[@phlarb6505]

This is what happens when they don't have G.R.R. Martin's writing to use as a guide. I had a feeling the writing would not be as good and more along the lines of "just another TV show." once they past the books. Extra thought: Anyone else sick of the "destroy the mother-ship and they all die" trope? It's the laziest ending there is. No need to worry about the other soldiers. Wraps everything up perfectly and immediately. When they said that was how they were going to win in the last episode, during the planing, I groaned so loud the windows rattled.

[@TheArtman2023]

Agreed, but George is a consultant in the series so he had a say in what happened!

[@elcidS15]

Well if he wasn’t a lazy fat ass maybe they’d have some material to go on. We’re lucky he hasn’t already died of a heart attack.

[@thebrycerodgers]

I feel you, but it doesn’t bother me much here in particular because the night king raised them from the dead, so there’s that connection. If we’re gonna believe in magic it’s not a big stretch to say they’re living through him blah blah. It does such that it’s cliche because of bad versions of this though

[@danielscutaru6682]

Why the boss of undead is ever care? Just send them and stay safe who cares

[@keem974]

Big part of the appeal of this show for me was how it took all fantasy tropes and threw them out the window. Now it’s degraded into generic fantasy and it ain’t for me

[@mattipulu8390]

What Starks say before and after Long Night? Before: Winter is coming! After: Winter is overrated.

[@MacSmithVideo]

MY EXPECTATIONS WERE SUBVERTED!

[@zimri6819]

This is the best damn thing

[@pracitus]

Long night? SIKE

[@Happy-tp4jd]

Facts

[@Lordbaka17]

So a majority of the battle tactics were from the school of LEROOOOOOOY JEEENKIINS!!

[@horacioderpington5698]

Throwing all your cavalry with flaming swords, head-on, at an unknown amount of zombies, at the beginning of the battle. Genius.

[@ryolacap]

@@horacioderpington5698 while leaving behind the heavy phalanx units, the greatest defensive unit in history. Oh best part, the flaming swords were not planned, they were going to charge into battle with no weapons against the undead.

[@learning2727]

@@horacioderpington5698 Glad I wasn't the only one that wondered wtf was going on. Nothing like firing flaming balls of (pitch? wood?) over top/on them as well, since they had no idea where the army of the dead was.

[@PapaBear6t8]

... and where the heck are the archers? At lest 2000 archers manning the walls, each one of them with 100 dragon glass arrows!!?

[@chaddubois8164]

OMG someone please make a video of the Dothraki charhe with Leeeeeeeeoy Jenkins over top.

[@mungo8817]

its an incredible compliment to the director and ramin djawadi that so many people like this episode despite hating the writing

[@MasculineIdeal]

Who the F likes the episode? It was absolutely horrible as were the 2 before it.

[@vanvanko3467]

It makes me sad that this had the potential to be the best episode of TV history... what a waste

[@LordSleepy99]

Einz2 You do know you don’t have to completely hate or love/like something. That’s criticism at its finest.

[@bigtuna7086]

LOL Jaime with one hand fighing more than 100 white walkers Sam crying in the middle of the dead and they just looking at him and many other stupid things GOT is Dead since S5

[@MikeTennerOfficial]

Sad but true...it already started in s6 with rickon getting catched by ramsey just so he can send him into the battlefield only for the purpose that we have a reason why jon is alone in the field and their tacktic gets smashed. It just felt like a cheap scripted plot. A d since then it only got worse and worse. Its so sad, cause this show had so much potential :(

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

GoT is dead, as a franchise, ever since a feast for crows. That book man... it can force you into a coma. I was lucky to wake up some days later.

[@amandawilliams9072]

@@MikeTennerOfficial i actually liked battle of the bastards

[@mikkocruz9331]

Thetruth99 we’re not entitled. We just want incredible writing.

[@skullhunter748]

Wights*

[@gameboxfreak]

8 years and 7 seasons of build-up, the very first scene in S1E1 sets the threat up and its resolved in 1 episode at the last second in a complete deus-ex machina with no main characters dead. This is genuenly the most anti-climatic ending to a plot I've ever seen IMHO. Edit: Some points to concede/elaborate on: - Jorah and Theon were major characters throughout the show, yes. My problem is the way some other characters survived situations they really shouldn't have survived, e.g. Brienne being piled on by wights only for Jaime to swoop in and save the day. Having this 'trope' isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they do it at least 7 times, it kinda becomes stale at that point. - The Night King being an unknowable evil that just wants to end all life is fine IMO in a Cthulhu kind of way, but his death was extremely anti-climactic. Having characters die unexpectedly in GoT was always a thing, but these deaths were always set-up if you were paying attention, or in hindsight. e.g. Ned trusting littlefinger and Robb breaking the deal with the Freys etc. The death of the Night King was just out of nowhere for the sake of subverting expectations in a very Snoke in The Last Jedi kind of way.

[@tanonymous2557]

The night king will come back. Calling it now. Remember this comment.

[@antonsundin2974]

Yeah i wasnt sure wether to laugh or cry.

[@bumpygumpson]

Winter is coming...winter is coming....winter is coming...winter is....no, its finally her--its over. The short night is over. Womp womp.

[@peterowsky02]

I'd say that Jorah Mormont is quite a main character.

[@em1ownerify]

So lame they didn’t kill anyone major off...

[@onizuka]

Fans: So why show the Night King's creation? Why show the symbols on the caves in Dragonstone? Why show the Night King sending us messages since episode 1? Why revive Jon? Staff: We ran out of episodes to make a decent conclusion in.

[@mythorr]

Which is pretty bullshit, considering HBO said they would give the showrunners as many episodes as they wanted.

[@yuber6205]

yeah... they probably just doesnt have any idea anymore

[@cleansent]

They also used the first 2 episodes really poorly like this episode completely shit on episode 2

[@theveteransergeant]

@@mythorr D&D quit on the show, and wouldn't hand it off to other showrunners. HBO was totally willing to give the two more seasons. They said "Nah, fam. Six more is plenty."

[@sicric10]

Exactly!! At least let it be explained what he was all about... Revenge? Broken oath? What’s his story??

[@alphacause]

This should be considered the "Longest UNSEEN Battle Ever Filmed " because a large percentage of the battle was shot with such dark lighting that one could not make out the details. That was the most disappointing part of the entire episode. For months and months we were teased about the time and money that went into shooting it, but outside of a handful of more intimate scenes, the major clashes between the armies was a muddled mess of a snow blizzard, darkness, and nearly indistinguishable hordes.

[@ElvisLivesUpstairs]

When you watched it did you put the backlight setting to maximum? Seriously it makes a huge difference. I did this and could see everything

[@LordSleepy99]

Drake Santiago We scene battles before, I’m kinda glad it was all at night. Except the Dragon fight. That I take issue with because we never scene a dragon fight before and we couldn’t see shit. But the overall battle, I side with the director on this one. It would’ve got boring. However, the battle plan, and deployment of troops, fortification, and etc. was retarded.

[@Yoctopory]

It depends on your screen.

[@parththegr8]

@@ElvisLivesUpstairs The point is, if everyone have to mess with brightness settings to even be able to see it, then it's not that their screen sucks but certainly the direction does. Really, night time wars can still be watchable if they were directed right. Battle of Helm's deep is a solid proof of that.

[@glassjaw210]

@@parththegr8 i didn't have to mess with settings at all, looked just fine for me. had no idea why people were complaining until seeing clips during this video.