Game of Thrones: The Horrible Abomination of Winterfell Season 7

The Winterfell season 7 plotline is an abomination. And that is not an understatement. This didn't have to happen!
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[@richardmcgowan1651]

Hello from Winterfell season 8. Oh, it gets worse.

[@vorbo01]

Sooooo much worse

[@compulsivecommenter990]

@Cobra Kai Never Dies hold my script

[@gooniusmaximus94]

And it's gotten even worse since this comment. Sad

[@FrayAdjacentTX]

season 8 is crap and full of errors

[@luizfelipevbf5567]

@Cobra Kai Never Dies *hold my Starbucks

[@JohnnyRedvers]

IdeasOfIceAndFire : The Winterfell season 7 plotline is an abomination. D&D: Hold our beer.

[@swam4362]

Season 5 killed Game of Thrones.

[@GallowsofGhent]

you can tell if a character is suddenly lifted above the plot by their sudden shift to monotony I don't just mean in the sense they become boring characters, but also in their voice just losing all pitch Arya becomes monster assassin, loses all pitch Jon Snow is resurrected, loses all pitch Sansa reclaims Winterfell, loses all pitch Brann becomes the 3 eyed raven, loses all pitch and it's dumb it's not like Jaqen (spelling?) had no pitch or emotions or facial expressions it's not like the 3 eyed raven spoke in a boring monotonous tone the whole time, or at all you know? fuck

[@RTannamal]

Brieanne would have legit mopped the floor with Aria. Brianne is bigger, stronger, has armor, more experienced and, as the Hound says, "Has a big f-ng sword." That was fan service.

[@erubin100]

I completely forgot Quaithe existed until you mentioned her.

[@markjustdiditc]

it's so crazy how fast it went f rom the greatest tv show to ever to exist to the worst.

[@terrynieuwoudt8586]

"These are my faces, SPHSPHSPHSPHSPH!" Legend

[@HeatherHolt]

I really hope the Littlefinger that got killed by two little girls was like a twin or something. I’m still so disappointed by his death. Ugh. And we all know the GoT final episode will be a cliffhanger to prep for all the spin-offs.

[@rubenzavala2084]

I can fill in the gaps for all of your complains with my brain. That's not the problem. The problem is that I shouldn't have to. I'll say Sansa is the one that makes the most sense. She has been in the company of a master manipulator for a long ass time and after all the trauma, she got colder and more calculating. Arya's storyline is not so far from the book's storyline. I think the showrunners knew where to go but not how to get there. I'm pretty sure that's George's fault. I don't find it as far fetched in a story with tons of magical elements maybe just more poorly handled. I'm sure Arya was aware Little Finger was after her ass she just allowed him to believe he was being sneaky. Had they revealed Arya knew and was playing him would have been better but the showrunners are addicted to shocking audiences. Bran is useless until he is??? Behind the scenes? Who cares. I really hope he is the key to flesh out the white walkers and make them more than a generic villain. Jon is the dumbest character in the show by far. IDK how he is still alive. Him and Dany? Two unstable idiots together? Great. At least Dany has more brains. Tyrion is my biggest complaint. He fucking nuked a fleet of ships with medieval technology and trapped them. He is the most capable character and yet he has been in the background being an advisor???? He deserves a position of power more than any other character in the show. ps: The books have gotten bad too. George seems to have become just as aimless as the showrunners. DwD was hard to finish. Tyrion is also a fucking pushover in the books at this point and he never lived up to his potential. Of course that's perfectly possible as development but it's also boring AF. I hope he actually gets to dominate the fucking Dragons and really changes the balance of power in the world. He should be the one to finish off the white walkers.

[@KingOfMadCows]

They didn't make Sansa more competent, they made everyone else less competent to make her seem smarter in comparison. It made no sense why armorers who spent their lives making armor in the North wouldn't know that they should pad the armors to make them warm.

[@NowhereMan7]

and they could have had another seen like the one Brand had in the early seasons when he was the Stark of Winterfell, and all the people were coming into the great hall with their problems. He was being guided by Maester Luwin of course but Sansa could have been shown to be competent sorting peoples needs. Telling blacksmiths how to do their job is almost the most out of character and ridiculous way to convey competence for her. Its so cringey too.

[@squashedeyeball]

Plus it makes no sense to pad armor with leather, or pad armor at all: When you are cold, lots of layers of cloth/linen will keep you worm. Gambesons (Cloth armors), to exactly that. And in history, people had them on and their breast plate over them. No use of wasting very expensive leather (You need to kill a cow for this: Doesn't worth it), that will serve no purpose at all to begin with (Layers of cloth will actually keep you warm, unlike leather).

[@NowhereMan7]

@@leeroberts4850 I thought Sansa said "shouldnt they be making those with leather, for when the real cold comes" or something along those lines though

[@squashedeyeball]

@@leeroberts4850 Well, Sansa wasn't talking about a breast plate. The most any type of sword or spear can do, it create a tiny gap that won't even touch the padding. You never use swords against men at armor, unless you are "half swording" for gaps (Or use your hilt as a mace). Plus, armor, even maille, never sits directly on your skin, ever: You always wear a cloth padding (Or even gambeson underneath), so they is an extra layer of protection. The only case in which armor might touch your skin, is if you have a maille "neck protection", that you might pad where it is connected to your (half) helmet. But since this is a late medieval period in which everyone seem to have full plate armor, there is not real need for maille (Safe for those house whose soldiers have half helmets).

[@arnekrug939]

The armor wasn't even the type that the Stark troops in the early seasons were wearing.

[@vladpandur1274]

6:25 "They know that all they have to do is give Arya a super-hero moment, and the fanboys are just going to eat it up" Ahh, The Lord of Light must have sent you visions of S8E3 in the flames.

[@SaudiHaramco]

Sansa telling the blacksmith what to do reminded me of Kim Jong-un walking through factories giving input as if he had a single clue what is going on.

[@serioushamster]

That was Elon Musk.

[@danlorett2184]

So that didn't seem that bad to me. I thought the blacksmiths were guys from the Vale (since Littlefinger is there with the Vale army) and you never see any of the Starks or their forces wearing anything but coat of plate (IE pieces of plate sandwiched between leather and riveted/stitched together). Doesn't seem implausible that she would know that people don't wear bare plate in the North but the Vale guys might not know that. Still, what a weird scene. It wasn't well done because it only makes sense if you overthink the whole thing. If they wanted to show Sansa being competent and hands-on there are so many better ways to do it.

[@danablack9499]

@@serioushamster pretty sure Elon Musk knows what's going on... ??

[@Mo-fh3ob]

@@danablack9499 wrong

[@emilelocas5496]

@@Mo-fh3ob you dont know how much of a workaholic elon is do you

[@a-bas-le-ciel]

You must realize: at this point costume = character. Sansa changes her style of dress, THEREFORE she's a different person. That's pretty much character development in the HBO-niverse.

[@majesticmicrobes60]

😂 too true.

[@squashedeyeball]

Indeed. That and the "building of the plots to extract certain facial expressions from certain characters".

[@johnmartin1870]

Everyone in season 7 is in black and white because it’s so so edgy and cool

[@VantolStark]

Hairstyle man, don't forget hairstyle, it's also very important character trait

[@daddyleon]

@@VantolStark y'all making me feel sick ,man... I'm sitting here being unemployed and I'd pay to have had D&Ds job, and call me insane, I think I would've done it better.

[@lordofbamfs-3941]

Dude it's not Arya-Batman-Stark. It's Arya-Batman-Wolverine-Mystique-Stark. I know it's not catchy but how else could you explain her healing factor in Bravos (Wolverine), and her out of nowhere super competent shapeshifting abilities (Mystique).

[@smritisuresh894]

10/10 we should make a comic book

[@wisdommanari6701]

I see you also watch PJ

[@aceambling7685]

@@smritisuresh894 With the main villain Gilbert Farwynd, the Kraken Lord, and his loyal henchman, Ser Twenty Goodmen

[@Janintong]

Dad robin damian wayne, for being an angry little prick.

[@ricoco7891]

Jewleean - Nice profile picture bro

[@XX-um1du]

Sansa: “shouldn’t there be leather on that armour?” Every other character “oh wow. She’s right, there should be! Wow Sansa is a genius! MAKE HER QUEEN OF THE NORTH!”

[@julioacceus253]

Petryr 'I do not demand a trial by combat' Baelish

[@ClaireYunFarronXIII]

Julio Acceus Tommen outlawed Trials by Combat. But, in defence of those who somehow don't remember, this change did not make a notable impact on the world and characters. The only thing that was affected was Cersei's story in King's Landing...

[@kk8490]

Lightning Farron Why would Tommen banning them mean anything? The North sees themselves as a separate realm- remember what happened in the season 6 finale when Jon was declared king? So what Tommen does/did or outlawed should mean less than nothing to them.

[@ClaireYunFarronXIII]

Are you Kidding me? ...okay, if Tommen outlawing Trials by Combat does not matter to the North, then Julio's comment is wrong too, because the North does not use Trials by Combat...according to you. Petyr Baelish could not demand a Trial by Combat not because it was outlawed, but because the North does not use it... I say, Petyr is of the South, so it should have mattered to HIM... 🙄 Tommen outlawed Trials by Combat, that is why Petyr did not demand one... 🙄

[@ClaireYunFarronXIII]

Are you Kidding me? How did the North become independent? Roose Bolton joined with the South, him dying should not suddenly change that. Jon becoming king is suppose to be a MASSIVE deal like Robb's Kingship was, but the show never addressed it...thus a plothole. Cersei does say Jon is a rebel(I think), but not because he broke the North from the South...

[@kk8490]

Lightning Farron I don’t know where you got the idea the North doesn’t use or approve of trials by combat. When Rickard Stark was summoned to Kings Landing by the Mad King to answer for his son’s treason, Rickard demanded a trial by combat. Obviously because they were apart of the Seven Kingdoms for over 200 years they’re customs and laws would evolve with the other Southern Kingdoms. I don’t see why or how a succession based on the illegitimacy of the king and the murder of their Liege Lord would lead to an overhaul of the entire legal system. There is literally no reason to believe that the North isn’t okay with trials by combat.

[@arthurguerra3832]

@IdeasOfIceAndFire 6:23. You are a prophet, man

[@Janintong]

Winterfell character plotlines Sansa: failed attempt at showing how developed she has become Arya: Fan service tool Bran: missed opportunities.

[@Janintong]

@Jormangandur83 they so much fan service and only a few important bran scenes. I would like to see him struggle with that immense power, as well as have the pressure of the fate of the entire world in his hands. But instead he Bronns snarky ass, and Arya being an arragont Butthole

[@artificalignorance5076]

I watched the show without reading the books. The first few seasons were amazing but by season 7 I realized I wasn't invested in the characters or the story. No one did any clever, nothing made sense. You've inspired me to start reading the books.

[@goliathconner5078]

I feel the same way. I didn't read the books and watched all the seasons, and I thought I was the only one who thought 6-7 seasons were really bad. Then I found this channel and my hope for humanity was restored. I just read the books, and oh boy, even the first seasons were sub par compared to the books.

[@artificalignorance5076]

Yeah I'm half way through the first book and there's so much the show left out. None of the characters are really as black and white as the show made them out to be. Like Viserys is definitely a terrible person but you realize that the only reason he acts the way he does is cause he has nothing and he feels cheated out his real life. In the end I felt more pity than anger. I'm really glad I picked it up.

[@craigjones7343]

That is actually a good thing. The books are very good. So much more happens. You will really enjoy them.

[@mimiHTcat]

yes! the first book and season 1 are actually pretty similar, and they diverge more in season 2, pretty similar in season 3 + 4, and oh god after that. literally every storyline and character is better in the books.

[@Harrison_516]

after reading the books, an being made aware of all of the ridiculous changes they've been making and things they've been leaving out since season 1, the show is now unwatchable.

[@Technoguy3]

Thank you so much for this. Never stop complaining.

[@kevinrobinson6601]

Arya's only combat training was fighting with a broomstick in the dark.....now she's better than Brienne. Give me a break! And where did all those faces come from? How many people has she killed? Why is she 30 pounds heavier all of a sudden?

[@ddillard143]

Remember this is a Land of Magic and mystery. She trained with the first sword of braavos and with the Faceless Men. Westeros Warriors fight with brute strength more often while the way Aria was trained was with finesse. The two different fighting styles bought them to a draw. It's a stress but hey it's Cinema and not real life

[@Foudedanse]

Agree- I so wanted to believe. But it’s crazy.

[@cryptohobo4589]

Hotpies pie

[@squashedeyeball]

Oh yes, Arya is 100% anime BS since season 6... Well, since late season 5, actually. All she needs is a Japanese voice acting and she's good to go.

[@banesnoN7]

@@ddillard143 Brienne trained her whole life, which is a bit longer than Arya's, but still she cannot defeat her, although she has a sword and therefore more reach than Arya's dagger ... this is just BS and it ridicules Brienne's skills in the same moment.

[@ULTRAMANNYDJ]

Season 7 is an abomination. Season 8: Hold my beer. 😂👊🏻👎🏻🤣👊🏻👎🏻😂

[@debrickashaw9387]

season 1-4 good season 5-7 trash

[@jt2749]

De Brickashaw I enjoyed hardhome a lot from season 5... and episode 9 from season 6. Other than that those seasons are some mid

[@Jim-be8sj]

The same general decline in quality seen in the novels. The first three are good but the latest installments are cringe inducing.

[@juve96]

@@jt2749 Hardhomme was OK. But I LOL when Jon was fighting the WW and was on his knees with his back to the WW and instead of getting stabbed the WW just grabs him and tossed him away.

[@squashedeyeball]

@@juve96 Lots of moments like this. Same when Brienne took down the Bolton men chasing Sansa. She was on the ground and instead of cutting her head in half, that Bolton man kicked it instead. Plus it's full on lightsaber Valyrian steel nowadays...

[@squashedeyeball]

@@Jim-be8sj Well, I do have many hope that tWoW will be pretty amazing actually... I to think that Martin really wrote himself into a corner he wishes he never had. Adding some new content was a great idea, at first. But then he added more, and more, realized that he'll need two books to cover it, around 2K pages, and then it got even further... I can't blame him for taking a huge break. And yes, I kind a hate affc and aded for being what they are.

[@catfoy8888]

HEY! THAT'S AN INSULT TO ABOMINATIONS

[@ericknunez8472]

"I will not suffer such abominations here. This is not Kings Landing."

[@eccentrichorse11]

@@ericknunez8472 Random soldier: Why don't you sweep floors in bravos? That way you will be skilled enough to defeat Brienne when she comes to kill you? Stannis: I will not suffer such abominations here, this is not winterfell.

[@celeritas2-810]

Unto Nuggan!

[@leepdroon]

As an abomination, I feel offended by this.

[@frienderella]

Yeah don't bring Aaliyah into this.

[@Juventinos]

d&d writing is so bad the wall didn't want to sign to be in season 8.

[@corneliaechzeller8042]

I am convinced that Aidan Gillen is very relieved that his character got finally killed off. Throughout Season 7 Littlefinger has done nothing but lean against walls and stare. Not a big challenge for an actor.... As for George R R Martin, I'm afraid many book readers will be disappointed: they don't just expect volume 6 of a book series, but a phenomenal work that outshines everything that has been there before and surpasses the show by far. GRRM won't deliver that, and I think he is very well aware of that. That's why "Winds of Winter" takes so long .

[@danlorett2184]

Really seems like GRRM was pretty much done with Game of Thrones by the third or fourth book. Been running on fumes since then. And now he's very old and I doubt he really wants to waste his time writing Volume 27 in a series he doesn't feel any excitement for with whatever time he has left on this Earth. He doesn't need the money.

[@trolldrool]

Also doesn't help that GRRM is getting constantly bombarded with e-mails from fans on a daily basis demanding that he finish the books, some even going as far as telling him in their e-mails that at the current rate, he'll die before he can finish it (because that's a possibility all authors like to be reminded about), which only serves to make him more frustrated with the series he used to be really passionate about.

[@Fulgrim_The_Phoenician]

he might have made a deal with hbo, that his book can only be released after last season of GoT. Would make more sense money-wise.

[@AVerySillySausage]

@redbeard He will finish TWOW, it will be out between now and say 2021. I don't think the show will influence it much at all. It won't be shit... unless you are one of those that things book 4 and 5 are shite. It won't be as good as the original 3 which is a given but I think the pace will speed up from the last 2, I mean it will have to. ADOS might never be finished by him, I'd say like 50/50. But that's being optimistic that he actually focuses on ADOS rather than any of the other works he has planned. And it's safe to say that there is no way he will finish any of that stuff he has planned unless he puts off ADOS to write them after TWOW is finished.

[@andrewchoi2780]

I'm so glad there are other people who are with me on this. Everyone else is talking about how good the show is, and all I can see is how horribly written it all is.

[@charlesharris4426]

"Arya the god of cringe." 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@lucylestat9698]

Like Preston pointed out the whole thing sucks because the showrunners act like Sansa outsmarted and outplayed Littlefinger. She did not. She used her power to execute him without a proper trial, we all may hate him and know he was up to no good but this ending for him was so bad.

[@char9935]

Isn't it a violation of guest right? Like he was a guest at winterfell then they turn around and murder him in the hall.

[@nexis1293]

Sansa didn't even swing the sword, I hope it comes back to bite Sansa in the arse

[@Molochors]

IMO they got some clues from GRRM about Sansa outsmarting LF, but instead with going with the original plot, where Sansa stays in the Vale and is learning all about Game of Thrones from Littlefinger himself (thus having some reasonable skill and konwledge to outsmart him), here she is sold to Ramsay, raped, runs North, comes back... and basically doesn't do or learn anything significant - rendering the whole plot's ending dumb

[@wafflingmean4477]

Not to mention he could easily have avoided the trial or won the trial. Honestly I count 6 ways he could have done it.

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

And Littlefinger was my favourite, RIP my Pete of the fangerz.

[@rustykuntz94]

Your season 7 videos have aged VERY well! With what happened in S8 this stuff looks good!

[@baileyayyy5085]

THIS GUY CALLED S08E03

[@damian_madmansnest]

I started at your complains about S8E3 and now going through your older videos. All of this is pure gold. Best reviews of the show I’ve seen so far. Thanks so much. This eases the pain.

[@TheJaviferrol]

Masie´s smug acting during that fight with Brienne made me wanna slap Arya so bad

[@Vahisofficial]

Agreed, Arya was one of my favorite characters up until she arrived in Braavos.

[@knoelle1357]

All of their arcs were completely wasted. Sansa, Arya, Littlefinger, Bran. A complete waste. The show is absolute trash.

[@Spartiatai300]

There was some awesome artwork circulating showing Littlefinger blowing up the wall with Wildfire. That would be so much better, it would mean that the doom of humanity would be caused by humans directly.

[@yoult]

@@Spartiatai300 I don't see how that could be part of his grand scheme, but it's definitely more interesting than what the show gave us instead.

[@jbulletc]

The show is amazing, season 7 is amazing, and you're trash. The show is 10x better than the books. The books are waaaaay too magic dependent.

[@ricoco7891]

jbulletc please be trolling please be trolling please be trolling

[@jbulletc]

@@ricoco7891 Funny how your response is just an accusation and not a logical argument against what I said. That says a lot about the book dick riders. You guys are like religious fanatics and the books are your sacred holy text which must never be altered by mortal hands. Get over yourselves. Season 6 was the best season and it was well after the books.

[@samcwyss01]

This season made me hate all of my favorite characters.

[@dr.tadashizhang7719]

Season 7 made me hate Littlefinger cause he acted like a moron and then they killed him afterwards.

[@SwfanredLotr]

The only characters that I still like are the Hound, Jaime, Davos, Beric and Tormund. As for the rest....

[@omgbuffy2276]

@@SwfanredLotr hello from a month later. About Jaime?

[@mrvulture8981]

Watch S8 and you wont think about s7

[@mrvulture8981]

@@omgbuffy2276 damn they did Jaime dirty

[@HomerDaMan]

You are not alone here. They turned Bran and Arya into emotionless sociopaths. The fight between Arya and Brienne was a total joke. Ohhh she touched the outer armour what mad skills. She would have died about 10 times if that were a real fight and if they tried to make it look good hoping people wouldn't notice what a pile of crap it was. I can actually buy into Sansa knowing things as she has had time to learn these things as a prisoner since season 1. She could have picked up the skills with a simple observation. Since season 5 the show has dropped in quality. People think they are going to be getting 90-minute episodes when they have clearly said they will be over 60 minutes. The bare minimum for a feature-length film is basically 61 minutes. There will be many upset people as they wait for that special episode that will tie everything up but we all fear that we won't get many answers about the NK and WW because they need to leave something to tell in the prequel.

[@stevenpinto772]

The robot bran , I saw you on you're wedding night Sansa, "i was so hard" LoL

[@kawadashogo8258]

The issue isn't just that Sansa knows stuff, it's that she knows things out of nowhere despite not having any chance to learn anything. And not just broad wider goals, but the nuts and bolts of what workers would and should be doing in Winterfell. She never had anyone to teach her this stuff. The whole series she's been nothing but a damsel in distress while everybody else rules and she has no part in it. Now all of a sudden she knows blacksmiths' jobs better than they do? Someone else in this comment section made a good point, said that it would have worked better if they had Sansa sitting in the hall the way Bran was in early seasons when he was learning about ruling from Luwin. Obviously Luwin is gone but there are other people Sansa can have sitting beside her giving her advice. Then rather than going out and telling blacksmiths their job, as if she knows anything, she could have the blacksmiths come to her in the hall, ask them what they can do, tell them what she wants in broad terms, with advice from other lords sitting around her. That sort of thing. Instead she's this one-woman master planner despite never having been taught anything about things like what blacksmiths do. This is a far cry from in the books, where Sansa is in the Vale actually learning politics from Littlefinger, who unlike in the show where he became an idiot so he could be killed in some dumbass way because the show-writers don't know how to craft a plot line that makes sense, in the books he's still a political genius and he's manipulating the whole Vale masterfully. And Sansa is learning from him. In the show, instead she was sold to the Boltons to be Ramsay's plaything and nothing more, because rape and torture supposedly count as character development for a woman in D&D's warped fucked-up minds. But even if the show did go George's way, she still wouldn't know anything about armor and wouldn't be able to tell blacksmiths the nuts and bolts of their jobs, because that's not what the nobles did.

[@norseca542]

yeah, guess what now

[@judia3719]

GoT has been pretty shite for awhile. If I had to give a simple answer for why this is happening, it'd be that the writers diverted from the books too much, not that trying to do something new is bad. But trying to do something new, having it be bad, and refusing to return to the source material is just silly.

[@nunouno001]

While that is part of the problem, I think the real problem is what IdeasofIceandFire said. The writers just clearly don't care anymore. They just want to end this series and move on to Star Wars or to their own show as soon as possible. Why do you think they trimmed down the series to 7 and now six episodes, so that way they have less to do. Even without source material if they really cared they could have told a story that while not on pair with the books could have at least still stood on its own two legs. But instead they decided to take the easiest and fastest way to the exit and didn't care about what got damaged along the way.

[@WanderingPropeller]

It’s what IdeasOfI&F mentions in the video - D&D lost their passion for the project and I would probably argue, never considered that doing George’s story justice would require them to be in it for the long term. I understand them not wanting to commit to that once they understood what it would entail, but the hubris of not handing off the project to someone else who would have brought fresh energy and ideas is unforgivable.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

No one wants to understand this. D&D make more money with that shite than GRRM would ever have with his books because they dumb down to the level of their stupid audience. They are in full control of it all and they're doing fine. They are very successfully writing for idiots.

[@boogabuga7657]

@@Leo_ofRedKeep George also makes a shit load of money from the show because of D&D. And he still hasn't finished the books, so what source material are they even supposed to be following at this point? You guys are so blind it's unbelievable.

[@aarone1981]

@@boogabuga7657 Thank you, these people are so asinine, their anger is mostly misdirected, blame George, what exactly are Dan and Dave supposed to adapt; bullet points, lol, watch something else you fools, George will finish a Dream of Spring when he turns 90...

[@LucianC137]

Arya was pretty cringy this season.

[@CaesiusX]

You nailed it. And such videos like this can be cathartic for fans like me. You don't have to be a fan of the books to see the drop in quality and feel the disappointment. Or even rcognize when terrible decisions are made. Perhaps there is a silver lining... What they did in this last season, and essentially how they handled Arya once she arrived in Bravos, has inspired me to read the books. And I'm in the middle of the first one now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@trappnest4490]

I only read half of the 5th book and I can see that GoT went wrong

[@LadyStoneheart312]

Enjoy the ride!

[@socialjihad5724]

First one can be a bit dull, 2nd adds a lot of cool stuff and a bunch of details to fill in gaps in the show. Storm of swords is incredible (seasons 3 & 4, so not surprising). And despite that Feast and Dance get a lot of flak, they're filled to the brim with details and some great set ups for future books, and for anyone who finds the most recent seasons of the show disappointing, they definitely present a far better and more interesting path to the story. Hopefully Martin will actually finish the series...

[@hanselcollado1239]

Wow. This video aged well. Another Batman moment

[@panana6084]

Bad writing guys. The whole season was a mess but Winterfell plot was so stupid. I passed the whole season trying to explain why my baby Arya was acting like a total psycho, why Sansa was suddenly the only smart person around, why the Starks were ready to kill each others... I hoped it was some bigger plan to have LF killed but NOPE smh they were really fighting each others like the kids they were back in S1. NONE of this made sense ! - Sansa magically know everything better than anyone. I hate how d&d give her others characters skills and storyline. Or how they make others characters dumber when Sansa is around. - Bran is only here to show flashback and don't care about his family anymore. That's pure bs tbh. Even with all his powers and the war coming, he still care about his family (books). - LF character was butchered too. He reveal all his "secrets" to Sansa. Tell her to always think about EVERY possibilities before making a move but he never thought about a possible escape plan in case his plan to have Arya kill don't work. - and Arya...omg where to begin. She's my fav, I LOVE her. But d&d don't do her justice imo. They only focus on her killer side but she's so much more than that. She love her family, she will never harm them, they are her pack.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

Starting with S6, the show was drastically dumbed down. Most characters were slaughtered and simplified to fit in the mind of black & white grasping morons. You know them. they're the kind who collect Pop figurines and buy a replica of Longclaw. They never understood the early seasons.

[@cman7609]

rofl. You seriously don't understand why Arya is acting like a total psycho? After all she's been through? There are many people who would have committed suicide after enduring what she has. And even though the actress on the show looks very young, isn't Arya supposed to be like 17 or something at this point? She's a grown woman and a trained assassin lol.

[@panana6084]

@@cman7609 sure she suffer A LOT. But not to the point where she will just happily threaten her own sister. Say she want to cut her face and wear it so she can be her. She won't just ask Sansa to kill some Lords because she didn't like the way they talk about Jon. imo Arya isn't a psychopath, even if she have all the right to be one after all the shit she went through.

[@jernie9384]

ima direwolf I think your the one to romanticize her a bit. She's a trained Contract Killer, she left one of the only People that actually do care about her to die. Arya is used to give up on things at this point. It would be completely unrealistic for her to be not a complete Psychopath.

[@panana6084]

@@jernie9384 well we obviously don't see/understand her character in the same way.

[@crozraven]

BUT BUT BUT DRAGONS!

[@blacktigerpaw1]

I'm still pissed that they killed Viserion for dumb plot reasons.

[@wafflingmean4477]

@@blacktigerpaw1 No they killed Viserion to make the fanboys drool at the prospect of a dragon vs dragon fight. Plot was barely involved, otherwise the Night's King would have aimed for Drogon, the biggest, most useful to turn into a wight, the easiest to hit because he was grounded, and the way to possibly get all the dragons by forcing the other two to land in order to save Dany. Hell if good writing was involved they never would have tried to catch a wight in the first place, and the dragons wouldn't have teleported across a continent after they received the text messag- I uh, I mean raven.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

@@wafflingmean4477 You know I hear excuses as to why Drogon wasn't killed, despite him being the most powerful dragon with his rider on his back? Yeah.

[@kk8490]

“OMG, there are 50 mile long flying lizards and ice zombies and you’re worried about _Little Finger’s trial_ ?”- Chad Summerchild

[@pbudie123]

@@blacktigerpaw1 Viserion could have been a weaker target. The Night's King could have anticipated the coming of the dragons. Until season 8, we don't know what else he knows about the dragons. We all saw how Drogon responded to Jon Snow's touch, and how it hasn't been that obedient to Danny. There is a good chance that these dragons can't be easily tamed without a special blood connection to the dragon itself. I'm just saying, Viserion responded to NK's touch, the same way Drogon responded to Jon's touch.

[@sharik6862]

See how they massacred my boy Petyr

[@kovu1530]

i could never forgive them for what they did to stannis.

[@justinstark5732]

I not gonna completely brush all responsibility off D&D. They could've hired someone else if they didn't want to do it anymore. But when they started season 1, they were promised Winds of Winter by the time they caught up to the books. This didn't happen! They were left with the task of wrapping up a story so complex that even the author is struggling to find a way to do it properly.

[@pierremorandeau4909]

They are all responsible for the failure. Martin for not finishing his books before authorising HBO to make a TV show out of them, and Dumb and Dumber' to accept making a TV show out of unfinished books.

[@LJFN213]

the show died with dorne.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

Dorne was definitely a sign of sickness in S5 but I believe the show rode the dragon in S5E09. And yes, I know it's in the books too but not quite that way. S6 was when it really changed from "more of the same at comparable level" to "let's give the fools what they want".

[@Dark_Voice]

@@Leo_ofRedKeep I think the real end of the good show was the end of the war of the 5 kings. When Joffrey, Robb, Renly, Tywin all died was the true death of got and I believe the writer wanted to write only this and only extended himself because he saw how popular it got (it was either for money or to please his fans and give them more) but the 4th and 5th boots already shown "the sign of sickness" but what also isnt good for the show is that they killed the good actors and you are left with people like Turner who can only play the sorrow and crying parts, Emilia Clark who is even worse. But as I said the true end was the death of Tywin as I feel it. After that started happening the monstrosities like LF getting totally dumb as well as Tyrion and Varys. Arya was a sinking ship for quite a while and many more.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

GRRM planned a story going way beyond the War of the Five Kings from the start and still sticks to that plan. He found himself more inspired first, which led to the first part of three taking three books, then indulged in more sprawling "gardening" as he calls it, because he could (he could because it sells), not really out of greed or yielding to fans desires. He basically does what he likes. The show tried hard to continue at the same level and much of S5 succeeds in doing so but it was badly received and triggered a conscious change of pace and quality in S6. Littlefinger was sacrificed in S7, Arya boosted to super-hero crap in S6, Tyrion reduced to cheap comic relief also in S6 then made to fuel a weakened plot in S7. Characters were badly simplified as well, all to cater to the level of the audience.

[@gonaddabarbarian]

the show died with Ned Stark

[@omgbuffy2276]

Ok why does everyone hate Dorne?

[@Takeru9292]

Season 8 is finished and will probably look amazing in april. Yeah, hehe sure....Best season ever! (laughs nervously)

[@benc9204]

This aged well.....genuinely

[@CharlesZane_]

Season 7 is an abomination.

[@Macoinebak]

Stan The Man Stannis was an evil bastard and I’m glad he’s dead.

[@ClaireYunFarronXIII]

Lord Farquaad ...okayyyy? Random...

[@catfoy8888]

Insult to abominations

[@nexis1293]

Stannis sucks, it's good we didn't have to see that abomination in season 7

[@SPSguy836]

What do ya’ll don’t understand about Stannis is the rightful king?

[@TentaclePentacle]

Why should there be leather on those breast plates? It's not like knights are going to wear those plate armor naked. Knights wear lays of clothing undernear that armor.

[@sebdunleavy1608]

TentaclePentacle Haha exactly

[@skog4437]

Also surcoats over the top

[@MonkeyKingsformerroomate]

Plus leather in medieval times (real life) was a costly resource. Cows were used in fields and you wouldn't want to just waste a ton of leather when cloth Gambesons will do even better.

[@FraJa1980]

To keep the metal from becoming brittle from the cold i guess.

[@marcuskurze9759]

Exactly to make citate;WHAT ABOIUT GAMBESONS?:)

[@D2themax7]

Maybe in 30 years, when Martin finally finished a Dream of Spring, we can get a more well written, accurate, and consistent adaptation

[@marinesinspace6253]

Be lucky to get Winds of Winter in 30 years...

[@SILVER-zf2hu]

hopefully animated. That way there r no restrictions on what can be put on screen cause of budget and whatnot.

[@KevinBorgOfDeath]

I think D&D:s feminism is the key here. Winterfell ssn7 sucks!

[@lukefelack9793]

Thankfully this channel doesn't attract a ton of the fanboys who just love the show no matter what. If you start complaining in the comments on the wrong channel.. it can get ugly. The show just makes less and less sense each season, I'm terrified for season 8. Hopefully Fire and Blood can hold me over until TWoW.

[@Kai555100]

I hope that George don't die xD b4 he finished the books

[@squashedeyeball]

You know what kills me? Those of them who say, "Yeah, GoT had a few little issues but it's still BETTER THAN 99% OF EVERY TV SHOW/MOVIE RIGHT NOW"... The levels of devotions they have to this mess is amazing. And the worse part to me? They praise *the show* for amazing writing (For scenes like "hold the door", red/purple wedding, Dany's pyre etc), not even mentioning that it is only possible because of the books. I mean, I may be biased, but shows that invent something on their own, without any source material, I have a bit more appreciation to them. But GoT's best moments only happened thanks to Martin, yet the fans credit the show for them.

[@wafflingmean4477]

I was called an arrogant prick in person to my face for saying Jon bending the knee was a bad decision and that Baelish's death was a horrible scene that made no sense. I explained my points in detail, all he said was "No, no, no, no you've missed the point!" And only in respect to Jon bending the knee. He had no answer for Baelish.

[@ladyish0968]

I saw that and they gave their opinion as to why some of your details were misguided because you weren't getting the fanfiction you want. little fingers demise was disappointing (however the final scene I thought was wonderful) however Jon bending the knee is debateable esp because its annoying how everyone is just suppose to give the starks what they want and they don't owe anybody anything in return ever & that is how stark stans think

[@backstabbingscumbag6657]

This has some of the most annoying fanboys ever. Why they get so defensive of an obviously bad show is beyond me.

[@pmmeyourdadjokes9811]

I needed this

[@dinam5017]

Arya is the most annoying character and actress..i think most of it falls to how awful Maisie is as an actress..a child actor doesn't have to be a good adult actor..she is just cringe cringe cringe

[@williamst.romain7393]

You said much of season 7 felt like filler. You're totally right. D&D had no idea what to do with Sansa/Arya/Bran for season 7 and so they just wasted time. As I've said previously, Dan and Dave are not fantasy guys. Their only interest in GOT was the Iron Throne. Everything else was always secondary. They have no idea how to do fantasy, so they shoved it to the background whenever possible. I also think a lot of the problem stems from the fact that they had originally intended for the show to end with season 7, but HBO chose to extend it to season 8. Chances are, and I am fairly certain of this, originally Sansa and Littlefinger were supposed to plot against Jon while he was away south. Sansa would then betray Littlefinger and he would be killed by Arya by the time Jon returned to defend Winterfell from the WW. A lot of the problems with season 7 can be attributed to the additional season. If you're interested, I have a speculative synopsis for Wind of Winter on my facebook page. And I am going to post one for Dream of Spring soon. You can see how close, or not, I get to the real thing once it finally comes out.

[@Gauravkoolwal]

William St.Romain dude do you mind sharing the link for your Facebook page, want to see what the plot line could be

[@kefkapalazzo1]

Arya and Tyrion used to be my favorite characters, but after season 5 for the former and 7 for the latter... no

[@Outland9000]

Indeed… Tyrion went flat after leaving KL. I was hoping that character would get back into his stride but never did. Damn shame. I recently rewatched GoT and watching them back to back its glaringly obvious how from seasons 1 to 4 then from 5 to 7 things went to style over substance.

[@lightaozaki7106]

I imagine Bran, in the last scene, telling everyone: I already knew what was going to happen, but I did not want to give spoilers xD

[@Bloink]

Well... He did 😂

[@streetwisehercules9956]

Turns out Bran had no point whatsoever.

[@cinthiamelo6252]

Sir., I must admit it. I tried to defend this series and always tried to find something to go against your points. But after the dumpster fire that was season 8 I think you have been right about almost EVERYTHING that was wrong on this show

[@iliketostayhome]

I have been wanting you to slag off these last few seasons so bad forever, and you have been slowly but steadily delivering ❤️

[@viktornei]

"99% of people are sheep!" I was waiting for so long to anyone say this! Thank you so much! XD

[@NawiTheCore]

0:10 An abomination? Not as bad as The Battle of Winterfell. That's an abomination.

[@VirtualSatyr]

You nailed this square on the head.

[@christianvennemann9008]

"Arya 'Batman' Stark." I nearly spat out my drink when I heard that! 😂😂

[@Alvosploio]

The show plebs are coming..... THE SHOW PLEBS ARE COMING!!!....

[@ladyish0968]

says the book pleb

[@Alvosploio]

@@ladyish0968 When I read your comment, I imagined the voice of Chad Summerchild.

[@volcryndarkstar]

By land, by land!

[@austingilcher6687]

Yeah I like the show, sorry you can't stand a different opinion

[@Alvosploio]

@@austingilcher6687 Oh I stand it. "I hate a great many things but i suffer them all the same" -Stannis Baratheon Show fans outnumber book fans. So your comment defending your opinion (that I never attacked), is nothing new to me. And I will suffer it until you all move on to the new and popular show that replaces it in the cultural zeitgeist.

[@cthulhup.o.o.f4906]

You just stated the most true thing, anyone has stated about the show; that I’ve heard. It’s not for the book lovers anymore It’s something else. Which is sad because it would have been incredible to see a true, faithful adaptation, that didn’t turn into a fan controlled ,the walking dead.

[@wheredidileavemycell]

Season 7: sucks Season 8: Hold my giant's milk

[@Foudedanse]

Thank you. I was really upset by the Sansa/Arya/Littlefinger stuff. Yes and the deleted scene of Sansa wanting to kill Arya just made me so annoyed because I can’t even pretend that Arya and Sansa were in cahoots to get LF. I love your reviews because I feel angry that show runners think we are so stupid to not notice big gaping holes like these. It’s not just this franchise, but Star Wars too.

[@thedopdeity]

The Winterfell storyline is a showcase of how the entire show would've been if not for the source material. It was the pinnacle of poor writing, disjointed storytelling, and obnoxious catering. Arya at this point is like a character out of some fanfiction. In fact, that's what most of the season felt like as a whole. And it's not even about show vs book anymore. The show now is just all about spectacles, throwing away decent writing and good characters. The final season will look good, it'll tell at least a partial end that we will likely never see in its fullest in the books so there will be some closure. But it likely just won't be that great otherwise.

[@Molochors]

I've seen fanfiction far better than the show, i shit you not. Unlike DnD, people writing those fics actually think

[@craigjones7343]

The show has been fanfic for a while now. Season 8 is going to be a fanfic ending.

[@shaunenwright7872]

If they were gonna turn it into nothing but spectacle, they could’ve at least done that right. The climactic battle with the others was boring and poorly conceived. They couldn’t even do Cleganebowl correctly. I guess if your daddy owns a bank you don’t actually have to do a good job at anything.

[@Moshugaani]

Oh my goodness, you were spot on about Arya's "superhero moment"!

[@Moshugaani]

The last few season have been such that during any given episode either nothing important is happening or they haphazardly rush plot points. On top of that the characters are written in an inconsistent manner and the dialogue keeps getting more clumsy. And it feels like all of these issues are even more concentrated in the final season! Good grief.

[@cuthulhu6708]

liked Sansa this season, definitely one of my favorite characters at this point. but in the books and the first 6 seasons I really liked Arya and Bran. So did most people. lets look at why we all liked those two. they were underdogs, always surviving dire situations by the skin of their teeth and their arcs were full of personal and physical dilemma and a dangerous sense of struggle. at the end of season 6, Bran was barely making it away from the wights alive and had his training cut short. Come season 7, he's this distant and hollow, all powerful person who can see absolutely anything, despite having his training cut short, and everything seems super easy to him, which is not why we all fell in love with the character. Same with Arya, she had her training cut short and was fighting from underneath in season 6. Now everything comes super easy and effortlessly to her and she appears to never be in danger. that's not why we got so attached to the character. Maybe an overpowered character like her would be fine in another medium, but Game of Thrones was made so good by having flawed characters who were likes were filled with danger, struggles and doubts.

[@RoyceD95]

Holy fuck... You actually called it.... you sir, have my subscription

[@Ar1AnX1x]

I'm still wondering how those faces that arya has can change your height and voice

[@mattdelvecchio1537]

Arian Dito it’s magic, man. they aren’t rubber latex masks - their magic presents the world with the desired illusion.

[@Kyrielsh1]

Is it really the thing you find the most disturbing...??? I can live with that honestly.

[@aceambling7685]

@@mattdelvecchio1537 idk man, they sure looked like rubber latex masks to me, are you sure Arya isnt just that one guy from Smokin' Aces?

[@volcryndarkstar]

And why they're physical masks you wear. Like wtf?!

[@mattdelvecchio1537]

Volcryn Darkstar token objects are common in magic fiction. why does an enchanter use a wand? etc

[@arnabm013]

You, my good sire saw the light before all of us normal people could. Unfortunately, the last episode of GOT which i watched was S08E03. THAT WAS IT. Coming back to your videos now. You were right all along.

[@nunouno001]

Please make a video about the White Walkers\wrights have been ruined too. I don’t mind their origin story, but good lord did season 7 just neuter them so badly. While at Hardhome they were practically an invincible and unstoppable force, now anyone with a sword can kill them instantly when the plot says so. All with a super convenient Phantom Menace “kill all the thralls” easy button weakness. I am 100% willing to bet that all they have to do is just kill the night king and all the Wrights will instantly die since he raised them.

[@Kyrielsh1]

you don't have to bet, they said so in the show...

[@SwfanredLotr]

In the books the leader of the White Walkers is called the Great Other right?

[@bigbadbaz16]

Who would have thought that it would get worse much much worse.

[@GodotOfficial]

Season 8 Episode 3 makes the Winterfell plot look like an Oscar worthy storyline

[@TheRoxieRose]

If there's one good thing about season 7 and 8, it's that it finally pushed me to read the books, and they are waaaaaaay better :D

[@adamprieto121]

“George is locked away in a cabin somewhere trying to finish TWOW.” *Laughs in 2022*

[@ClaireYunFarronXIII]

“How could you let this happen!?” ~Eddard Stark, in _Game of Thrones_

[@TheLaughingMan712]

This channel is in the minority in giving a gut-punching analysis on GOT without romanticizing it. The show has been going downhill since Season 5. The execs are clearly male feminist and the males are nothing more than canon fodder to make the women appear superior. I totally agree with you. You found a new subscriber. Keep up the excellent work.

[@Ed_Reads]

6:25 well that aged pretty well...

[@vejscvetkovski2679]

John and Danny's shit was the worst part though....no doubt.

[@ladyish0968]

not at all lol that was one of the better elements of S7 was dany jon and cersies storylines

[@stevenpinto772]

@@ladyish0968 Have to agree, as a book fan seeing Dany and jon together was something ive been waiting to see for a long time.

[@morfinny94]

They had no chemistry whatsoever. It was fucking awful.

[@hannitabeautysison]

I think they had great chemistry!

[@thepiperreport8198]

3:20 - Nope... Lol.. Turns out that that was a giant nope

[@shamuu13]

If you look at footage from the conventions years ago, around season 1 and season 2, D&D always said they only wanted to make it to the red wedding. That's all they really hoped they could get to do. And well it shows, because after season 3 the show went downhill.

[@alanpennie8013]

shamuu 13 I imagine they would have happily walked away at that point but HBO would not have been pleased and that would have harmed their career prospects.

[@randomstrategy7679]

How to fix the Winterfell plotline: * It is revealed that to get Littlefinger to help at the Battle of the Bastards, Sansa signed an agreement with him that would look really bad on her if it were made public. Littlefinger can now control Sansa through that, which justifies him spending so much time and effort in Winterfell instead of spending time at the Vale. This also shows that Sansa actually did something to help in season 6 instead of being completely useless. * Bran spends the entire season trapped north of the wall. He just can't be in the Winterfell plotline because omniscient super-powers make the whole thing stupid. * Littlefinger is absent between episodes 2 to 4 because he's off with the knights of the Vale rescuing Edmure from his dungeon. This shows that the Freys' deaths actually has consequences. While over there, Littlefinger also listens to that witness that Arya deliberately kept alive and works out Arya's secret from there. * The Brotherhood without Banners stop by at Winterfell on their way to the Wall because it would be nice to have these characters meet and it makes logical sense for them to be there. * Near the end of the season, Brienne gets sent on a mission to find Howland Reed because he's an important character who should really have appeared by now. Brienne also needs to do something that isn't guard duty. * Now that the minor things are out of the way, on to the important stuff! Littlefinger! Littlefinger should have actual plans and motivations. In this season the way I've done it, he will see Daenarys as a threat and will plot to try to get rid of her. He will: 1) Try to push his puppet Sansa over Jon as Queen of the North, playing on the northern lords' unwillingness to bend the knee to Daenarys. 2) Push this issue by faking a letter by "Davos" telling the northern court that "Jon has been captured by Daenarys and is now being used to control them (like Jaime used Edmure against the Blackfish)". 3) This succeeds: Jon does bend the knee to Daenarys half-way through the season in order to get her to agree to help him against the White Walkers. The Northern lords name Sansa Queen of the North in response. 4) After the peace deal (which happens earlier in the season), plot with Euron to trick the Dothraki (who are at the Neck at this point in time) into boarding ships with the promise of "being free of Daenarys's tyrany" and "being safe in essos instead of fighting the army of the dead". Euron betrays them and burns the ships. Brienne finds some evidence of Littlefinger's involvement while she's down in the Neck. 5) Hire Arya to kill Daenarys in order to "heal the rift between Sansa and Jon". This is the point he gives Arya the Catspaw dagger. Arya doesn't do it, but instead tells Sansa. * Have the conflict between Sansa and Arya happen because Sansa wants to marry Arya to Sweetrobin in order to undermine Littlefinger. There are no threats of cutting off faces or murder or anything that bad; the worst insult that occurs is "Sansa Bolton". More relevantly, Arya asks Littlefinger for help, who forces Sansa to give up on the marriage idea and the sisters return to being friendly. * Have Sansa smuggle Varys and Davos into Winterfell. Sansa uses Varys as a judge for Littlefinger's trial, alongside herself and Royce. During the trial, they will present actual evidence (from Davos, Arya, Brienne and a captured assassin that Littlefinger sent to kill Davos). Littlefinger will have an actual defence and will also present his compromising evidence against Sansa. Eventually Sansa will innocent herself but has to renounce her claim on Queen of the North (returning it to Jon). After failing to argue his case, Littlefinger demands trial by combat; the judges force him to fight Arya who kills him. This also means that Arya's fight scene this season is against an opponent she actually has a chance at beating, instead of against Brienne who should wipe the floor with her.

[@thenman23]

this is why you're not a writer on the show... just terrible...

[@thenman23]

most of your ideas are like WHY???? it doesn't matter when they all get killed by the white walkers!! especially in the north!!!

[@randomstrategy7679]

@@thenman23 The answer to your question of "why?" from a writing perspective is to give Littlefinger a worthy death and an interesting final season for one of the best characters in the show. To make Sansa become an actual player instead of continuing to be passive. And to make Arya behave like Arya. You could argue that the entirety of game of thrones is pointless if they're all going to get killed by the White Walkers, but that doesn't mean we should remove the entirety of game of thrones. The answer to "why?" from a character perspective, is that Littlefinger doesn't take the threat of the White Walkers seriously, he wants the Iron Throne and the arrival of Daenarys is a major problem for him. Meanwhile Sansa is aware of what a threat Littlefinger is and is working against him. These are perfectly reasonable perspectives for the characters as we know them.

[@Gauravkoolwal]

Random Strategy thx dude, much better than the trash we saw, I would have an image of yours and Preston’s plotlines as being the actual things that happened and not the trash we saw

[@TheHalflingLad]

Oh, that tidbit about Martin finishing Winds of Winter...

[@tzaneee]

little finger ,the guy who started the war of the 5 kings and put in motion everything in the show - the white walker plot , had no plan but he had the hots for sansa

[@AbbyMireene]

Don't forget how everyone can teleport now. Dany's ludicrous speed flight from Dragonstone to beyond the wall has been fairly well documented, but there's also Brienne's trip from Winterfell to King's Landing in the span of one episode. Remember in Season 1 it took Ned and Robert several episodes to travel from Winterfell to King's Landing. Granted, Brienne didn't have a large entourage to deal with, but there was snow in The North which should have slowed her down considerably. You know a show is running out of steam when it starts to contradict its own established rules.

[@AVerySillySausage]

The travel times is the one thing that even casual watchers/normies are starting to notice. I remember someone bringing this up at work.

[@DavidBrianDobbsArt]

Season 7 was the first season I didn’t buy. I couldn’t stand it.

[@basiliskmetal]

Little did you know about how far this Batman Arya fanservice would go. RIP this series

[@gabiioiq]

LMAO hate every second of season 7 oh my god, just wanted to forget it even existed

[@MrJoshDoty]

I am cheering for GRRM. Write man! You can do it. Save us from HBO.

[@ginettemayas7640]

So what does that tell you that Benioff himself admits he had chosen Arya to be the one to take down The Night's King. Benioff really loves Arya or Maisie, not sure which. Look how Jon's character arc is smashed in the end. What were D&D think? Maybe you should revisit this video in the wake of the end of the series. But you nailed it. You saw the impending disaster that would be Season 8. You saw clearly the Emperor(s) wore no clothes.

[@klion4977]

Its not for lack of passion. The show lost its character and intellectual quality right after it passed where the book plot was. Dan and Dave are fine at Adapting a story to television but suck ass at taking this complex story to its ending on their own. Them saying they lost passion is just a cover up for how unoriginal they are.

[@joperamod5760]

Even before that ist started to suck

[@avarma6313]

i feel like the russo brothers shoudlve done GOT, marvel was going to shit in 2013 until they became in charge

[@phillipmargrave]

At this point I’m doubtful Winds of Winter will ever be released. It seems like we’ve been waiting ten years already. I wouldn’t be surprised if Martin pulls a Robert Jordan and dies before he can finish.