Game Scoop! 579: PS5 Graphics Are Unreal

[@mickael486]

This has easily become the best Gaming Show group on the internet. and I'm really glad that you decided to go back to the optional video format!

[@noobz4hire290]

They stopped video format recently?

[@mickael486]

@@noobz4hire290 like a year ago. so I had to stop listening. and then I don't know when or what their reason was, but they started to video record it again in a dark and gloomy basement kind of way, until one day I pressed play on KZbin and there was their old production values back!! and I haven't missed a single episode since.

[@Suavellous]

Apart from being honest and actually discussing tech 👍🏻😂

[@leohd2040]

Everyone should have a group of friends like these folks , that would make the world a better place I'm sure.

[@theredshadow401]

Underwear with a LCD screen on the back that says, "butt first?" Eh? No? Okay. 😔

[@JonathanPetersonlisten2EITS]

Gold!

[@biggiefrosty]

Polygons that aren’t triangles are triangulated into triangles anyway by GPU. 3D artists traditionally have triangle budgets for the 3D models they author. The “triangle” talk was to point out that artists won’t need to do that anymore, and they drove the point home by sharing the number of triangles in the scene. The point was for 3D artists to hear that number and think “wow this will make my life easier”.

[@alienmonkei]

best podcast on ign LET'S GO!!!!

[@sean198722]

The only podcast on IGN

[@DELTABOY04]

its not even close

[@jarg8]

@@sean198722 Unlocked and Unfiltered are great, too

[@odrankeane-teague1601]

If this, in your opinion, is the best podcast on IGN? Then you need to listen to Unlocked or Podcast Beyond. No offense to the 4 people that run this podcast. But it's not as well ran as the other ones and they ramble about nonsense as well. Why call it Game scoop if you guys don't even talk about games half of the time. Just make weird jokes with eachother that aren't even funny.

[@AJ72281]

Odran Keane-Teague This is, by far, the best Podcast on IGN..... This is not opinion, but rather fact. Beyond used to be a close second until Greg Miller left. Max did a good job, but Jonathan is just flat out unwatchable and cringe inducing. NVC and that other one are just plain boring..... Scoop!

[@irvyne6111]

I listened to the audio version, but had to come and check out Daemon's hat.

[@natashacavata2415]

cat's participation was crucial for this episode

[@Darkside_C7]

To Justin's point regarding sound, the Decima engine makes those sound adjustments based on environment shape and size within engine. I totally believe that Unreal Engine 5 can do it.

[@neocaron87]

Guys... Tony Hawks 1+2 is 40 dollars not 60...

[@mrkevinhaughey]

Just to clarify, the Tony Hawk 1 & 2 remaster is $40, not $60. Justin should actually look at the price before complaining that it's too expensive.

[@gjones86]

Great episode guys. Best game podcast in the world - hope you're all well.

[@rguitar78]

Best content of IGN, hands down.

[@l90316]

11:59 that looked pretty good actually.

[@HMDTEX]

I think on the sound portion, they mentioned the use of convolution reverbs, which means you can take an existing sound sample, like a rock falling, and then accurately simulate it in any given space that has been previously measured and sampled via an IR or Impulse response. So you can make it sound like that same rock is dropped in a small house, gigantic cave or anywhere in between without traveling to that location and actually doing that thing. As long as the impulse response exists for that environment. The same concept exists for guitar players wanting to simulate a guitar cabinet sound without blowing out their neighbor's eardrums. All software-based!

[@Lion0fTheDesert]

I used the face scan in fifa, ufc 3, and nba 2k 19. It takes a few tries to get a correct scan but I love that feature and wish all games with a character creator used it.

[@FreakyMrCaleb]

I love it how on 4:00 you get a glimpse of what i suspect is Daemon's desktop. Nice stuff ^^

[@Settledown77]

You all need to watch Hi Score Girl on Netflix, especially Damon. It’s amazing, especially if you’re around the 40 mark.

[@DrPhilsGaming]

When discussing muscle memory for games from the 90's, I recently messed around with Dave Mirra's Freestyle BMX which uses the same engine as tony hawk. It came out on the ps1. I popped it into my ps2 and was able to land tricks and get the controls down pretty well. I only played 10-15 minutes. If I started playing again to unlock everything, I feel like the muscle memory will help with that.

[@shanewilt1]

Every Friday is just that much better thanks to Game Scoop!

[@charliemilroy6497]

Tina, one of my disappointments with the Unreal 5 demo was that the character wasn't so realistic, as I wanted to see whether the next generation is going to be the time where hair physics have a coming out party

[@marks8898]

One of the versions of what we do in the shadows is on bbc iplayer for any uk viewers. I prefer that version because it has matt berry in. Plus the guy from phone jacker is very good.

[@week-sauce]

"Unreal" is a good descriptor. Tech demos run without many of the limitations our games do. It was certainly gorgeous though!

[@boycottactivision]

Most Tech Demos are just animations though, not playable demos.

[@week-sauce]

Boycott Activision my point exactly. They’re not real = “unreal”

[@mikesmith3397]

What song does Daemon use to close out the show this week?

[@MrTomslagmolen]

as to the photomode claimed by Sucker Punch (as typical for them) didn't they introduce/popularize this option with infamous?

[@gjones86]

I thought the 20 Questions was Skies of Arcadia, as that had vehicles (boats).

[@LJlax20]

My first job in college was working in the campus mail room too! Great college gig, the game my roommates and I would play a lot were towerfall, terraria, and destiny.

[@mr.littleredemption4097]

I am big fan of NVC but I think I have found its competitor.

[@ANGELOFDARKification]

I don't know why EA took out gameface from FIFA. Nba 2k still does it via an app you install on your phone but it is still quite glitchy.

[@bradcuster]

C’mon. You guys need a spin off podcast...View Scoop. I enjoy hearing your recommendations and passion behind the shows.

[@NintendoSphere]

PSO had no vehicles whatsoever, not any you control unless you count Lobby Chairs that glide around to mess around in the lobby...

[@gamescoop]

You ride in the spaceship Pioneer 2.

[@NintendoSphere]

@@gamescoop That's literally the hub your characters "live" in. You're never once in control of the ship. That's like saying "you can pilot the space station".

[@johnsolo247]

Can we get a link to that hat? Or will it be going up on the IGN store?

[@igfnjwrionfoiurnfoiuenr]

47:59 Anyone know the music?

[@pandaluna]

Where can I get that hat? I've searched online and none of them look exactly like Daemon's.

[@KaranD1994]

should've done the 20 questions countdown with the LCD hat!

[@thefearmakerlive]

Tearaway is also available on PS4.

[@usedfuzzbox]

Scoop!! Not waiting for Saturday, too much in this weeks episode.... :D

[@jacobpro_]

Had to order me one of those hats thanks Daemon😂

[@kingvictorino]

Host of tsushima is the next gen Tenchu sequel I always wanted.

[@DarinBlanchard]

Loooooong time listener of Game Scoop and I know Daemon's face already and came to check out the video to see his hat. Tina, Sam and Justin look NOTHING like I expected them to look. I don't know what I was expecting but this wasn't it. So funny to me. Anyway, you are all amazing and I love Game Scoop because of you guys.

[@j.powellnetwork]

Damon needs either a windscreen or to turn the gain down just a bit.

[@gregswitala]

Does Phantasy Star Online really have vehicles in it? I don't remember that.

[@theezpz9916]

My favorite podcast. Love it.

[@gamescoop]

Yay, thank you!

[@failuretothink]

The first time cloud goes to his room, he never shuts the door and lays down over the covers!

[@charliemilroy6497]

I wrote a letter to N64 magazine when I was a kid. I was looking forward to Perfect Dark and had a gameboy camera. I suggested that they use the gameboy camera for the face mapping feature and won the letter of the month. The next month they announced that they were implementing the feature in the game. I assume that it was just a good guess, but part of me wonders if my idea was passed onto Rare. It was a sad ending for the game and for me. I was looking forward to the N64 steering wheel that was promised and instead received a gameboy battery pack with no letter attached. It was a strange one all round.

[@SirCrofty]

You know what, I actually somewhat remember this. I subscribed to N64 for the longest time.

[@TR1993]

Ready for my weekly dose of SCOOP! Keep up the great content OMEGA COPs.

[@Real_Sgt_Tom]

I played Tony Hawk 2 on the Dreamcast for so many hours!

[@Cameronwatt]

Its the future, Games look like photos, Damon's got a tv hat and it's too dangerous to go outside.

[@HoodedDude]

Yeah I'm pretty sure the first game with Photo Mode that came out was Sucker Punch's Infamous Second Son. So that's why he probably said that about the photo mode.

[@zclegg]

Daemon's cat revealed!

[@marklindsey6175]

Great show as always! Do more game scope when possible too. Love that show! Take care!

[@gamescoop]

Hmm, I'll have to think about how we would record Scope from home.

[@DannieDecentVlogs]

Great podcast I enjoyed it

[@gamescoop]

Glad to hear it!

[@tdotjason8576]

New Mario looks awesome...too bad I cannot find a Switch@retailprice

[@Kyloki87]

The laptop gun. Perfect Dark. You're dead. I don't know which Tony Hawk I played but it was great.

[@charliemilroy6497]

I loved playing with bots and placing some laptop guns on the walls and stacking up corpses as a child

[@Torralbae1]

Great show. Thought Aloy in Horizon Zero Dawn hair physics were pretty good. Also, would Bayonetta qualify?

[@adrianogrisanti6731]

Well if you look at Unreal web page the demo ran at 30FPS and 1440P (so not really impressive next gen 4k 60FPS we were promised). In fact a laptop ran it at 40FPS a second (but talking 1.2 k vs the 400 - 600 price point of PS5 / XBX) so hopefully it will be optimised like the page says to 60FPS and higher Res. Don't forget tech demos look amazing and games never look like that I've seen some amazing AMD and Nvidea Tech Demos over the years and when I finally got X game i never looked as good like the E3 Watch Dogs Trailer compared to the final product (which apparently can now look better than E3 demo at last with new tech). Plus a Tech demo might takes loads of resources so a full 20 - 30 hours game will never look as good (otherwise it would take 10 years to make). It is interesting and I am sure other engines like Unity etc will all do something similar and it does sound like development time can be cut as only 1 high res assist is required and engine does the rest rather than manually by people, so artists will re train for new tech and hopefully means not as much crunch etc and dev time. Remember the Amazing PS3 demo at E3 of Killzone turned out that was pre-rendered to show whats possible and the real game was nothing like it proper lies. So once I actually see new games at 4K 60FPS I am not going to build my hypes up, over the big Hype train, yes there is going to be improvements along with Faster SSD etc etc but not as big of jumps as we have had in the past.

[@can-uk7262]

47:32 Cat scoop

[@alexandergorski6184]

Thank you for some wonderful quarter memories! And also all the other ones, those were good too.

[@alexandergorski6184]

I meant quarantine damnit!

[@prettyhatemachine101]

So much fun! I’m so down for the LCD underwear. The display should say “JUICY SCOOP”

[@ShakenFungus]

Such a fun episode ❤️

[@TrashyvPR]

Where can I buy that hat?

[@philiplytle]

Love these. Thank you omega cops, for adding joy too... this tedium. Is it the 22nd yet...??

[@tyto3948]

The hat can be used as a Game Scoop news ticker.

[@CheddarVerse]

What is the outtro song!? I recognize it but I cant search it cuz I'm at work! LOL ITS KILLING ME!

[@gamescoop]

It's in the description :]

[@WardenFG]

Paper Mario reminds me of Little Big Planet somehow, in a very good way mind you!

[@kaumranesna-ashari8902]

Lovin the Scoop Hat!!!!

[@JustinR941]

Daemon looks like comedian Mark Normand.

[@wryonion]

I would love an 80’s skate game. An open world game based on the movie Thrashin’...get Josh Brolin to do voice over. And then maybe a BMX game based on the movie Rad. I’d actually buy either of those over Avengers.

[@evanolmstead7959]

Justin, that demo was made by 2 dozen people in 6 months. So maybe a team of 100 or more could spend 1.5 years and make a killer game instead of 5 years.

[@L_Emir_de_Passy]

Whats the intro music?

[@danwalsh3163]

Plays when you beat a level in Contra....I believe...

[@L_Emir_de_Passy]

@@danwalsh3163 thanks

[@cheappyv5156]

Lipsync, IMO, is absolutely off in all the games (even from 2019-2020), no matter the budget. Apparently, it's very hard to do

[@tb1235]

The new Tony Hawk is not going to be $60 for the base game. It will be going for $39.99 just like the Crash Remakes.

[@neo_wise5543]

All i gotta say is look at the unreal engine 4 tech demo and games we play now we surpassed that and yes this is a tech demo put it can for sure be surpassed next gen and ps5 and sony were trending number 1 on twitter and youtube sony just took all the marketing hype from xbox with this demo alone

[@LeatherneckJedi]

Sam, you are wrong about that song, and DK as a band. That is all!

[@MinimumWageMaximumJoy]

Tina needs a show. In depth interviews with game devs kinda like Geoff Keighley does, but with that Tina "Diane Sawyer of video games" pizzazz. Unleash Tina!

[@Slade_s]

How much was it

[@jamestomlinson8861]

Tony Hawk 1&2 remaster is going to be $40 with a deluxe version at $50.

[@monkeyspice2010]

I can always count on game scoop to catch the Nintendo releases that NVC inevitably miss!

[@PeterAtkinson]

Agree with Justin, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4 is the best in the series.

[@failuretothink]

The Wrong Man's is really good on Hulu

[@MinimumWageMaximumJoy]

Yay tina!!! Can you help Sidney become a better host? I am a cranky but kindhearted soul and watching her host or co-host last week made me scream "Serenity Now!😲" rip Frank Costanza✌

[@danas1606]

PSO did have a baller ass sound track. Can confirm. Call the committee.

[@TA3DArtist]

The irony of being a game developer and not having time to play video games while sequestered in my home has not escaped me. Enjoy it while you can people!

[@bergbjorn]

Does Sam actually live at an arcade? That would explain alot 🤔

[@jasonshere]

It's actually due to very strict shelter-in-place laws. He was in the arcade when they went into effect.

[@newstandard2445]

Bit Scoop! That's a real graphical gem!

[@HOLLISGAMESSKITS]

Tony hawk is only 40 dollars

[@squiddly007]

I am the opposite of Justin. I wanted something different out of Ghosts. The fact that it looks like Assassin's Creed (A franchise I find boring) really put me off. It still looks good I just hope they stay away from countless collectable crap.

[@lags7164]

Sam's got Star Wars & Star Trek pinballs!? There has to be a Battlestar Galactica pinball to get, eh?

[@MasterCleife]

I'm pretty sure the first online console game was Chu chu rocket. Oh, and I played the shit out of this weeks 20 questions game. There are no vehicles that you can control in the game.

[@gamescoop]

They didn't ask if you can control them.

[@aletawalker9097]

30:49 12:22 06:21

[@antimessiah6455]

Is not you guys fault but the energy of the show feels different

[@glugo68]

The hat already has me enjoying the show more.

[@TheRealDanEman]

I want that CAP!!!!!!

[@Alymoss]

umm ok 4:00

[@ReapsVsTheWorld1]

Yes! Tina! Best scoop cast.

[@LaZy.B.]

they should have Colled it UNREAL ENGINE 5 PT

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

Nothing about that was "ps5 graphics" and it's just LITERALLY "this looks as good top end games already do except this is a tech demo to show how you can save resources except it's an engine that wont be out until mid 2021 so no game except ones that start development after 2021 can actually use it and any tripe A games with it are at least 2-3 years away but this is a great marketing ploy by Sony for morons who don't understand anything about tech", and even then it ran at 1440p 30fps on hardware not even out yet. That's super underwhelming. Shadow of the Tomb raider, without these cost savings, runs at 90 FPS on higher end cards with everything at max on 1440p, and looks literally just as good, with gameplay, foliage AND a bunch of NPCs and their AI. This demo, without any of those factors, still massively underperformed in comparison. Don't get me wrong, the tech is pretty darn cool and will make the average game look much better, but it looks pretty on par with most triple A games right now. Extremely lazy clickbait that these sites are heavily relying upon up hype up absolutely unreal hype (pun intended), just to garner the clicks and pander to Sony fanboys. I mean it's really just pulling off this kind of attention due to the drought and disappointment of that pathetic inside Xbox stream. EDIT: Not a criticism of the gang. Love their podcasts and their takes. Usually the most knowledgeable ones, and they do address these points. Just was a critique of the clickbait and the media coverage of this and how misleading it has been towards the ignorant.

[@IBODEGAI]

They’re helping to fuel the console war soldier fanboys with titles like this. It’s irresponsible.

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

@@IBODEGAI and the console war is super toxic, when games should be uniting us

[@IBODEGAI]

7PlayingWithFire7 💯

[@wizardsandwarriorz]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the fact you think the UE5 tech demo looks "pretty much like today's games" ...that's just not the case. One statue alone in that demo has over 33 million polygons, which I could maybe assume, some scenes aren't producing 33 million poly's a second in today's games...and that demo had 500 of those statues and was a combined 16 BILLION poly's alone. Nevermind all the other assets around the scene. AND the scene was using REAL dynamic bounce G.i. lighting...this kind of tech and fidelity is used in offline CGI rendering...and the PS5 was pumping CGI fidelity visuals in real time 30 times a second...and according to Epic Games and Tim Sweeney, was just the beginning... That is a monumental leap in performance and visual fidelity. Every triangle was being rendered on a PER PIXEL basis...which results in those perfect, high quality shadows. So...

[@Krakenclub]

Maan, ain't no vehicles in Phantasy Star Online. The ship/base thing they live in doesn't count as a vehicle lol, you know full well what tangent it was sending the guys down - 'vehicles your characters can drive' etc. I know they didn't complain about it, but that part threw me off the trail completely.

[@WardenFG]

Game Scoop should be its very own thing.

[@gamescoop]

...it isn't?

[@WardenFG]

@@gamescoop...is it?

[@ToasterBurner35]

The whole gangs back! Last weeks fill in was great but nothing like the starters

[@ttwedell]

Someone hack that hat and get some swear word rolling.