Game Scoop! 779: PS5 Pro - Sony Spared No Expense

[@MF_CJay]

The Pro is advertised to do what the PS5 was supposed to do anyway…

[@zeeshanishaq9821]

Sam's audio is painfully bad. As always,someone always had bad audio and no quality check whatsoever for such a long time now. Please fix it producers!

[@somberson]

It's always him.

[@0FFICERPROBLEM]

​@@tommymccraith4670This show is mostly listened to on podcast apps.

[@jamiedeering3400]

Personally not a fan of Sam anyway so less can hear him the better

[@kelb0y9o20]

@@jamiedeering3400 how come you don't like ol Sammy boy??? Just curious is all

[@snidedude]

This was my favorite podcast for over a decade now. What do we, the listeners, have to do to to make it so Sam gets a new microphone? Do we need to start a Go Fund Me?

[@IGNGames]

It's not Sam's microphone. Hybrid recording -- with some people in studio and some at home -- has been a challenge. We are aware and are actively working on solutions. - Daemon

[@aLeXBatHD]

@@IGNGamesthanks, Daemon! Sam’s audio feed really stands out and it’s really hard to enjoy the podcast sometimes because of that

[@RandyShadows]

Sam's audio sounds like the Fallout 3 Holotapes.

[@mark_medina_ign4725]

Listen to Scoop on your pipboy for full immersion

[@Dogman52x]

Justin is so right, Sony is always arrogant when they dominate the console space, only when Xbox gave them a run for their money with the 360 did they counter with the $399 PS4.

[@Kingtoadpipe]

Also Justin "outlaws is the game of the year"

[@nicholasdiaz1925]

Well he said it’s HIS game of the year tbf

[@RayzaNC]

​@@nicholasdiaz1925people are allowed opinions of their own in 2024? Surely not

[@mikaelpage88]

Doesn't make sense to say this when Xbox has a $599.99 2tb Xbox out. Hypocritical.

[@ZereayM]

Audio troubles are more reliable than this show consistently airing every week

[@peymanj3456]

Its like a curse, and each week is something new...

[@kelb0y9o20]

And they are spose to be the "professionals"

[@blakehenderson8828]

@@kelb0y9o20not only that, they’re the only video game podcast, have to be better /s

[@djdagsysvinylfrontier1539]

😂😂

[@libardomm.trasimaco]

😂

[@komattaa]

PS5 pro in Japan is 120,000 YEN, it's 850 USD at the current exchange rate. Thank you SONY.

[@JoeyBK_86]

Yup 👍🏽 thank you Sony 🤬🖕🏽

[@lukeP01]

800 euros too, which is about $880

[@InnerRise]

Thank you, Sony. Pre ordering day ☝🏿

[@LuisCastillo-tg6xw]

Cries in third world

[@RondyWooten]

Ken "get a second job to afford it" Kutaragi.

[@mickael486]

When you have to pause and zoom into the background with an A/B comparison or wait for Digital Foundry to do it, you have to ask yourself... really? I'll take double the frame rate every time.

[@kylebookout1789]

Thank you Mark for your comments! Scoop!

[@IGNGuides]

SCOOP

[@8SweetPotatoLattes]

Been a massive Scoop fan for years but the audio issues are really getting to me

[@RayzaNC]

It was really testing my patience this week. It's amateurish for such a big company.

[@NiGHTS1980]

Play has a limit.

[@jamescharly6102]

This one is hilarious 😅.

[@chrisbrown113096]

I've seen this comment 100 times but for some reason your simplicity made it hilarious 😂

[@kevincampbell989]

Like my wallet apparently

[@buddyhall5330]

It's your wallet

[@bigfootwalker5399]

Your wallet has a limit

[@riopato2009]

Sony were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.

[@gilbertoarellano8525]

They should, they are competing against themselves at this point. The PS5 pro if anything makes the base PS5 and discless version look like a bargain now. The pro is only targeted at that 10% of its customer base that bought the PS4 pro. If scalpers don’t sell these out I’ll be getting one.

[@The_Kaiju-X_Project]

🦖

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Is PS5 Pro the T-Rex or the Velociraptor??

[@SonnyFrisco]

When PS3 came out, Bluray players were 1000 dollars. So 600 was a GREAT deal. This one doesn't even have a disc drive. Whack.

[@Ben-Rogue]

Not to mention it could play most PS1 and PS2 games, and had way more I/O, including digital audio out and multiple memory card slots

[@gogreengameon2146]

They did spare expense though: where's the CPU upgrade?

[@The_Kaiju-X_Project]

Apparently it doesnt need one because the better gpu and pssr will take the load off the cpu

[@Ben-Rogue]

It's doing 30-60FPS gaming at (up to) 4k, it doesn't really need a faster CPU

[@angiwells6897]

It has pssr so it doesn't need to have a better CPU smh please don't comment on things you clearly have no knowledge of tech please stick to console conversation not teck

[@derschnuff8819]

@@The_Kaiju-X_Project PSSR, FSR, DLSS - all are used to reduce GPU-Load and not CPU-load. That is the entire idea behind it. Reduce pixelcount for internal calculation before scaling it up. That is why they are called upscalers.

[@attemptityourself5662]

​@@angiwells6897 are you a literal child? With modern RT demands on CPU a bump in core count would definitely make sense. Digital Foundry already came out and said the Pro won't be enough to run GTA6 at 60fps which was the only game people claim to be getting this for. Grow up. And don't speak on technology. Your knowledge is subpar.

[@Tonedogg24]

Funky Cold Medina

[@robotjunkie3764]

Not heard that for ages 😂

[@nickmajora]

You got this Daemon. You can beat the last DLC boss!

[@rogelpinguz3743]

Mark speaking facts from 26:25 for about a minute

[@irisflower9203]

The titles of the last two episodes have made me smile. Thank you!

[@Draw2quit]

No cover in the Space Marine game? In 40k, the Space Marine is the cover.

[@Echo__plex]

The PS5 Pro reveal was a disaster. Sony is completely out of touch. The price point was bad enough, but not having a disc drive was the nail in the coffin. I'm not sure who this was made for except the top 1% of PS diehards. Felt like a total misfire.

[@desmondbrown5508]

Lol, sadly there are of course the r/PS5 people defending it (aka justifying it to themselves essentially b/c we know they're gonna get it anyways).

[@fearghalbarry7866]

It's a niche enthusiast device, so you basically answered your own question.

[@spillrune]

Regarding PS-pricing: It’s worth remembering that when Sony discontinued PS4 Pro, they raised the price of PS4 Slim up to what the Pro was, and it stayed at that level until the end. (At least in Europe)

[@dotty1774]

Astro bot was No.2 in the Us last week and sold better than any other platformer outside of Mario in the Uk

[@elpiquetegames787]

Early scoop!! Right?? Is Thursday today right? 👀

[@NerdsEngage]

The comparison is null and void with PS3 and 5 Pro if it played all compatible PS1, 2, 3 , 4 games like some did then cool.

[@Trai1b1aze]

Am old enough to appreciate the thumbnail quote and reference so throwing out a thumbs up for that alone.

[@Act0rReact0r]

55:17 Sam's joke made me literally laugh out loud! 😂

[@Mmachine88]

Its quite refreshing to see the world be against Sony Playstation, and its not for nothing.

[@inigomontoya619]

Should only be happy about it when it's warranted. Anyone can get anytime. Other companies make other companies look hood by constantly stepping on rakes

[@yomamasohot6411]

By world you mean a few thousand ign watchers? Ok

[@s3rv3r3rror8]

The world of xbots and vitriol farmers lmao😂 Do you guys think Sony should price this excellent console the same as the dogshit 2tb series glitter?

[@ajinkyakhanzode890]

They bomberman music took me straight to my childhood, like that Critic from Ratatoullie 😊

[@EnricoTrujillo]

Plenty of people spent $700 or $800 and more for the PS5 when it originally launched.

[@rapzid3536]

The 990 EVO 2TB price just crashed; it's only $50 more than the 1TB at $130. And that's retail; Sony most have been getting this for a song for the past 4 years already. The price isn't the storage.

[@Ben-Rogue]

Considering the wafer cost for 1TB of TLC NAND is like $4

[@Macktube]

Do they talk about Astrobot in this episode?

[@yomamasohot6411]

Kinda ironic when the Xbox Series X with a skin comes at around $600😂

[@bigslicksly9874]

Summer 2025: Play Starfield, 60fps on Ps5 Pro! 😂

[@Remy45]

Also tell Ziff to hire me for post production. Y’all could use some help with that audio

[@mickael486]

Finally releasing a console they don't take a loss on. nothing wrong with that. buy it or don't. it's not insulin.

[@paulanderson2963]

Very true and the biggest expense they didn't spare was the expense of their reputation.

[@ProtossHyrdalisk]

There's like a 60-80$ difference between 1 and 2 TB SSD. Doesn't the 2 TB Xbox come with a disc drive in it? The price is unjustifiable from Sony's side. Plus, Sony actually had the right solution: Allow users to put their own M.2s in their console after purchase. It was a brilliant solution that helped keep the price down.

[@RayzaNC]

If you knew how much the GPU in the console costs you'd realise the price makes complete sense. People act like Sony are a charity who must subsidise their console.

[@loutronz4708]

The Pro patches are big? How do we know that??

[@JimmyD07]

Execpt the fact that DF said it won't hit 60 fps in GTA 6. $700 for 30 fps....

[@bigd5090]

Daemon still works for IGN!

[@paulmatts2015]

Pretend. Sony. Super. Renaissance.

[@alangreenway6695]

Law of commerce: Find a consumer audience and make a product for their lifestyle and budget, don’t make a product and hope to find an audience that needs and can afford it.

[@kanzerace]

So Justin is Mark's boss..??

[@AddMiller221]

From watching this video, it seemed implied that Sam is. They were both talking about stuff related to guides and captures (which Justin doesn't do).

[@IGNGuides]

@@AddMiller221 @kanzerace Correct! Sam is my boss! He's the director of IGN wikis and Im the manager of the wiki video team!

[@mark_medina_ign4725]

@@IGNGuides Haha, i even answered that on the IGN Guides YT. Lol

[@LtSokol]

Don't kid yourself - you're all going go own PS5 Pro. 😉

[@mark_medina_ign4725]

I say in the video that im buying one!

[@davidburk4546]

25:14 you could just have one ps5 and hook it up to a central A/V system that connects to all your TVs

[@adarshramakrishnan6334]

Okay the episode title is kinda brilliant

[@danielcastelo]

$960 in Canada (before 13% tax in Ontario) 😢😢😢😢😢

[@kaetha1]

The Emperor Protects

[@Erlaxis]

Looking forward to PS5 Pro.

[@wileyracer]

the $599 Xbox at least comes with a disk drive AND 2TB tho…so $780 with the disk drive

[@mickael486]

Let's all chip in for a mic 🎤 for guess who.

[@nvc.]

Im not defending the price of the pro, specially because if this is the machine for the enthusiast, it should have the discdrive and the stand included but, at least this time, contrair to the launch of PS3, we have an option not to buy the pro and just get the normal PS5 that still is a high power machine and you will play all games with not that less grafics performance.

[@trifficxdyanmo2595]

Its easy to choose graphic mode always

[@zero_ehxe]

How many of us watched the Apple event the day before the PS5 Pro reveal event? I’m an Apple fan, but wasn’t impressed by this year’s Ultra watch’s big upgrade being a different color, or the AirPod Pro getting hearing aid support. That’s a bit reductive but making the point that turning around to have this PS5.5 be so expensive with very little to show for it the next day affected my reaction. Anyone else?

[@cargorunnerUK]

There is no official definition of what a PS5 Pro enhanced game is. So we may see some devs offer a PS5 Pro fidelity mode. That is 30FPS and has even more ray tracing and graphical effects than the standard PS5 version. Devs are just going to offer what they think is cool and will help sell copies

[@duanen2337]

$700 is not a lot of money and it's a day 1 purchase for me.

[@ProtossHyrdalisk]

If $700s is not a lot of money, then why are you playing on console? Get a 4090 and actually experience games with ray tracing.

[@MalibuJack88]

Fine steak....I got Sony's fine steak right here.

[@larrybyrd1991]

I'm so glad you mentioned that the ps pro comes with a 2TB hard river. Been looking for that info. Lol

[@mark_medina_ign4725]

You got it!

[@henshin587]

I'm getting kinda sick with the comparisons with the PS3, oh it's similar because it's the similar price - no, it's not. With the PS3, Sony really spared no expense, threw everything in it and were losing about $200 per unit. It was cutting edge for the time, Blu-ray, Cell, practically a whole PS2 in it, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, HDMI...Sony now wants to charge more than that for a mid-gen refresh, ffs in 3 years the PS6 will come out

[@johnvocatura]

You guys rule.

[@deathkiller07seven30]

Yeah 2TB is more expensive between 200 and 400 dollars just wait on the Tokyo game show

[@rapzid3536]

How much money do you need to make to not be "price sensitive" to an 800 dollar purchase?

[@laurovaldez8752]

Are they honestly trashing the console performance of SM2??? Im going to have to watch the DF review

[@Bowmanganie]

Wasn't that long ago that people were buying regular PS5's for $700-$1000 from scalpers on EBay. Now no one will spend $700 on a better machine. Hmmm. Everyone has also seemed to have forgotten that 1/2 (According to Playstaion) of the people on PSN are still using a PS4. Seems like the perfect time for those folks to up-up grade.

[@aliali-ce3yf]

that was when people assumed new games were forthcoming. they are not the ps5 pro kept showcasing 4+ year old games . fool them once , shame on you , fool them twice, shame on them.

[@mekman4]

Great Stuff, as always!

[@USMCbrantley]

Do y'all think the first couple of rounds of the refurbished PS5s from Sony are ones that scalpers bought and returned? Regardless of whether it is or not, a $400 entry point to the PS5 ecosystem is pretty enticing. Also, do y'all think with the PS5 Pro coming out this year that next year we will see more Sony games that are PS5/PC only and no longer PS4? If so, then yeah, the refurbished one from Sony gets even more enticing.

[@combo9114]

Typically when a business is launching new technology products, they will build and price to a specific target profit margin per unit. PS5 Pro will sit higher on the profit margin curve than PS5 due to the price insensitivity of the enthusiast customers it's targeted to. Not sure why this is generating so much discussion online -- if you think it's too expensive, you're not the customer.

[@dandobson7108]

55:35 😂😂🤣

[@peymanj3456]

I'm just about to buy a used Series X, I always perfer buying the console selling less, because they give better service

[@66VNB]

i’m in the market for a new console and next gen isn’t until like 2030. 700$ seems fine to me😁😁 been waiting on this reveal for a long while

[@Mmachine88]

Ummm correction, 2030 may be when the next generation for Playstation is. The Xbox Next is allegedly launching 2026. That's why Xbox isn't doing a pro model.

[@R17759]

2028 at the latest. That will be here before you know it.

[@ARIXANDRE]

A thumbnail tailored for us 40 year olds. ❤

[@ryanschindler923]

Love this pod but the audio is consistently the worst of any podcast by a freakin' mile lol. Jesus. Between ultra hot mics, noise gates set way too high, blown out mics/horrible mic quality, it's just a smorgasbord of "my first podcast' tech issues

[@haroldsherwood1859]

fun games number one.

[@HardcoreGamer101508]

“Audio experts,” stop crying about Sam’s audio. You can hear it clearly just fine.

[@patrickc950]

Gamestop 385 to 350, trading your ps5 in

[@jmcdermott53]

Will you be a Pro bro? No.

[@Sticks_of_Truth]

The PlayStation 4 released using old Laptop hardware just like the switch did so the price can remain very low. This is why those consoles were so Under powered and the switch remains under powered. The PS5 while not being current was much closer to current standards Then the PlayStation 4. The PlayStation 5 pro is using Some technology that isn't even released yet by AMD. Just do a little bit of homework To see these things. The price is still very high and only for the enthusiast but it does look like Sony just refuses to take a big loss as their goal with this system.

[@InnerRise]

Sticks of mf'in truth

[@CensorTube84]

This industry is finessing the hell out of today’s “gamer”. 🤣

[@foxtrap614tango8]

😂 that thumb nail

[@nicmad1784]

Scoop!

[@paulnell]

Scoooop nation! Pat yourself on the back big guy. Stay well

[@luisfeliciano2302]

SCOOOOOOOOP!

[@paulnell]

Virtual pound! ❤ Scoooooop

[@gariantroll2975]

Nintendo knows not to move technology forward, not to make new ips, and to always have 3rd party games not bring their major games to their platform. Nintendo is great, but there are definite cons.

[@bozlakian3329]

SCOOP !!!

[@paulnell]

Scooooooop!! ❤

[@fritospie7982]

Did he say astrobot isn’t selling well???

[@wckdend9317]

21:40 xbox one x came out a year after ps4 pro

[@SoteroA]

5:09 They never expressed it that way.... but ok...

[@gerardcrabb4556]

They could release a upgrade SKU with no controller... People can choose to buy drive or Pro Controller instead... Pro only about 10% of market...

[@rpjordan]

Marky Scooooop

[@realrobrose]

"For the platform's most enthusiastic and engaged fans" = For the sickos

[@mackenzieglidden2968]

John Hammond

[@thurstonr.chubbington5995]

Mark makes me think of Lenny from Of Mice and Men.

[@jeffmacs2o223]

Reminds me of a bigger Chris distefano , he's a comedian and pretty funny.

[@IGNGuides]

@@jeffmacs2o223 Sounds like a compliment to me!

[@jeffmacs2o223]

@@IGNGuides That comedian is hilarious so yeah I'd take it! The story of his father going to his school and talking to his principal is too funny

[@LeatherneckJedi]

I’m buying one! 🤙

[@esorsha]

We are missing bigger pic. Games make console valued . Moment Sony shows games runs better on pro. Ppl will go crazy . Point is they won’t as majority base is on ps5

[@SWOTHDRA]

They actually did, the materials and design are totally noth worth the price , neither is the cpu.....

[@saintsalieri]

Assuming some meaningful percentage of PS5s owned by people buying the pro are sold to either Gamestop or on eBay or whatever, doesn't Sony somewhat cannibalize their own sales? And don't they lose money on hardware sales generally anyway? Do they even make money off of this?

[@zero_ehxe]

We did a survey of how many players chose performance mode vs fidelity mode, and it turns out you were choosing the wrong one, so we took the choice away in the PS5 Pro! Next time, let’s all do better. Sony isn’t angry, they’re just disappointed.

[@josegurrola9021]

GET SAM A MICROPHONE PLEASE OR SOME AIRPODS AT LEAST THAT MIC IS BAD

[@tgo7202]

😢 As always Sam over talks people, take up 70% of all dialogue...😑😑😑

[@killa3x]

ill buy it cuz im rich. So 400 or 700 or 1000 is all the same