Game Theory: Meet The NEW Monika! (Doki Doki Literature Club Plus)

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The Game Theorists

The Game Theorists

2 жыл бұрын

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Theorists, it is time we finish what we started. Last episode, I started a deep dive into the secret organization running the DDLC simulations. Today, I want to talk about what is happening in the other simulation with Project Libitina. Team Salvation is planning something monstrous and no one, not even Monika, is ready for it. It's time to open our third eye to a whole NEW Monika... Marla.
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@Acorn_Anomaly
@Acorn_Anomaly 2 жыл бұрын
Fun detail: the DDLC+ trailer that was released has the player's name as "Ive".
@dobbynick
@dobbynick 2 жыл бұрын
where? i wanna see this
@Acorn_Anomaly
@Acorn_Anomaly 2 жыл бұрын
@@dobbynick GameSpot's channel, IIRC, had the DDLC+ trailer.
@dobbynick
@dobbynick 2 жыл бұрын
@@Acorn_Anomaly thats such a cool find
@Rerolfer
@Rerolfer 2 жыл бұрын
damnn MattyPatty been slacking off he should've been able to find that with ease
@DiddleDallyBodanical
@DiddleDallyBodanical 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rerolfer doing it the harder way isn't slacking lol
@notanotaku1101
@notanotaku1101 2 жыл бұрын
My thought: this new game is going to be a reverse of DDLC thematically. DDLC was something that looked and seemed upbeat and fun, then took a turn for the horrifying. This new game is going to be a horror show that is invaded by DDLC's Monika (either jumping over from her VM or from the outside via Ive as Mat theorizes here), and turns into a story of how she manages to ACTUALLY wrest a happy ending from this nightmare, not by selfishly changing things for her own benefit but by intervening on behave of the alternate versions of her friends.
@tyfoon555
@tyfoon555 2 жыл бұрын
Given Salvato's love for deconstructing familiar themes and mechanics on a level that surpasses a quick meta reference here or a gimmicky 4th wall breaking (DDLC is in a very different category than something like, say, IMSCARED or Pony Island), I could very well see Libertina/DDLC2 being exactly what you said
@MercuryA2000
@MercuryA2000 2 жыл бұрын
If this game turns into a dating sim wearing the adorable costume of a horror game I would find that hilarious. Full circle from the horror game wearing the corpse of a dating sim.
@wellusee688
@wellusee688 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I ..
@TeraunceFoaloke
@TeraunceFoaloke 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting
@squiffy_student229
@squiffy_student229 2 жыл бұрын
@@MercuryA2000 omfg i didnt think of that
@erikjustesen6869
@erikjustesen6869 Жыл бұрын
I think its interesting to note that if Monika is a nurse and not a patient or experiment, and the other 3 are it also loops back to the statement of physical appearances being different than normal humans. Monika has brown hair and green eyes, while the other three have unnatural hair and eye colors possibly caused by them being experiments and Monika being a nurse.
@GamersUniverseOE
@GamersUniverseOE Жыл бұрын
Sayori has blue eyes (which are natural and even more occurring than Monika's green eyes) and her hair is somewhat (well I don't know how much) natural.
@rocicoz
@rocicoz Жыл бұрын
@@GamersUniverseOE not really
@veenu_1853
@veenu_1853 Жыл бұрын
@@GamersUniverseOE Yeah, you can reasonably say that she has strawberry blonde hair
@ISS600
@ISS600 Жыл бұрын
@@GamersUniverseOE In this case then it adds a little more since we know that Sayori becomes the new club leader and gains Monika's level of intelligence. maybe not a lot but it is interesting.
@flushedlucifer
@flushedlucifer Жыл бұрын
Oooooor that Monika's shoes are pink and she has black stockings
@marche800
@marche800 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing the lengths the Project Libitina characters are going to to ascend to a higher plane, meanwhile Monika did it without even trying.
@abedapoonawala4730
@abedapoonawala4730 2 жыл бұрын
She's obviously way smarter than these brainless believers. Those people are sacrificing lots of lives whereas Monika just needed one Ive laster.
@carljhonodicta6860
@carljhonodicta6860 2 жыл бұрын
@@abedapoonawala4730 monika didn't do anything to have it, the dev team gave monika the access, unlike the academy who is trying to get the access themselves.
@nyxie2877
@nyxie2877 2 жыл бұрын
@@abedapoonawala4730 The team directly stated that they gave Monika too much power, so I assume they gave multiple individuals only a small part of that power in VM2.
@carljhonodicta6860
@carljhonodicta6860 2 жыл бұрын
@@nyxie2877 same thoughts. that power is the 'third eye' and those individuals are the ones with the third eye potential. the question now is who is this renier (could be Ro since he's the first one to work on VM2) Although before i watched these videos, i really thought monika is in Paula (the project manager) and not in Ive because of the "with everlasting love" part in monika's final message and in 14.txt
@ayanovfx7216
@ayanovfx7216 2 жыл бұрын
@@carljhonodicta6860 U know, Idk with I am correct with this, But aren't VM1 and VM2 a little connected, So, As a senior engineer, Can Ive Laster, Who is Trapped In VM1 actually be Renier, As he is smart, he knows the world made by him, Even tho he doesn't have the third eye.
@poperaymond431
@poperaymond431 2 жыл бұрын
*Fun Fact* : _Ive Laster_ is a sneaky way of spelling “I’ve Lost Her”, aka an Easter egg hinting that Monika has escaped.
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .. ,
@CallofDutyBlackOps28
@CallofDutyBlackOps28 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvestmentIdea can you not.
@CallofDutyBlackOps28
@CallofDutyBlackOps28 2 жыл бұрын
everytime i see the name i've always had a nagging feeling; being that this is Salvato (and Co.) I could tell there was something about his name that would make sense. thank you for confirming.
@poperaymond431
@poperaymond431 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 thank you lmao, those bots are the worst
@poperaymond431
@poperaymond431 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 The detail Salvato puts into its projects is nuts, I really hope their studio makes it big, they deserve it.
@fearmaker1
@fearmaker1 2 жыл бұрын
A funny thing concerning the name "Renier": The verb "renier" in french means "to deny", "to renounce" or "to repudiate" and is often used to talk about abandonning marriage, parenthood or in this case, faith.
@MbitaChizi
@MbitaChizi 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk
@Robertdoesstuf
@Robertdoesstuf 2 жыл бұрын
Someone get this man a Nobel prize
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .....
@mactemporal1980
@mactemporal1980 2 жыл бұрын
"Renier sa foi". Good job
@confusedcatmeme
@confusedcatmeme 2 жыл бұрын
Damn as a French person I didn’t even see this one
@marche800
@marche800 2 жыл бұрын
You know the third eye granting violent tendencies sound like it's a metaphor for the experiments being conducted by the team rathen than a literal interpretation. They grant awareness of higher knowledge and that causes the character (in this case Monika) to have an existential crisis and become violent toward her fellow classmates. Metaphorically speaking as she never harms them directly but also is willing to sabotage and destroy their files because she sees them as expendable.
@tweshasaini7957
@tweshasaini7957 Жыл бұрын
Wow this makes so much sense that they are prone to violence cause they think nothing is real
@Broomer52
@Broomer52 Жыл бұрын
Monika was a simulation test of what happens with the full knowledge of the world you’re in, from what I gather she is in the simulation what this project is trying to create in reality. She not only is aware she’s in a game but can use that awareness to manipulate it and talk to us, even if we can’t respond.
@Viking_Raven
@Viking_Raven 2 ай бұрын
Monika was forced to delete her friends, because of her attempt to gather the attention of the player, she created the MC but his presence also garnered the attention of the other girls. Not only that but her simulation didn't allow her to interact dorectly with him. Forcing her to become the only option.
@thatperson181_02
@thatperson181_02 Ай бұрын
So let me get this right, Paula and Ive are in our world, and they created DDLC and PL. The characters in PL are becoming sentient and are trying to figure out how to "accend" to our world. Monika in DDLC has done this by "accident" and "escaped" the simulation. Are the makers of PL trying to mirror real humans to see if "they" can awaken by themselves? And if so, I dont understand how Monika is connected to PL, they seem to be two separate entities completely and idk how Monika can identify the characters in PL as her friends in DDLC???
@whomply5408
@whomply5408 Жыл бұрын
A theory based purely off observation: I believe Yuri is at least loosely aware of all of this in the second act of base game. Think of how aware she is that she’s acting differently than normal, whereas Sayori, who’s feelings were also altered by monika, didn’t seem to note her depression had gotten worse than normal. Before Yuri confesses her love and subsequently stabs herself, Yuri says something like “I don’t even care if monika’s watching!” which can easily be dismissed as Yuri showing she doesn’t care about monika’s jealousy, but also very possibly signify her awareness of the situation (we know how much DDLC subtly foreshadows). When you mention she reminds you of the character in Portrait of Markov, she isn’t distressed or put off( because she isn’t aware it’s her), whereas she instantly panics in the second act. And one of the freakiest parts of the game- when her eyes become human instead of animated, tying in to the “opening of a third eye” theme.
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 11 ай бұрын
Yuri as Libitina might be the individual in TEST VM that ultimately develops the strongest Third Eye. So, unlike Monika, who was just forcefully granted complete awareness and admin access, Yuri and Libitina's AI have a specific combination of parameters that makes it easier for them to naturally escape the virtual machine sandbox all on their own. Probably connected to her tendency towards less common words and complex use of language. Chaining events in unusual ways is how most game glitches are discovered. And by studying how she does it, the engineers hope that it'll help them glitch their way out of their simulated world, too.
@ragedragon1018
@ragedragon1018 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone's Fanfics and how they expect Monika to be in real life How she actually is: A middle aged man
@GreenHatGirl22
@GreenHatGirl22 2 жыл бұрын
Like my roblox girlfriend (is a joke)
@citizenhentai
@citizenhentai 2 жыл бұрын
a funny senior engineer tho i'll hit that.
@wafiabdullah6559
@wafiabdullah6559 2 жыл бұрын
Even Better
@harsmarhalred
@harsmarhalred 2 жыл бұрын
the ultimate catfish
@keith9129
@keith9129 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a joke I bet
@thecanadianmc9424
@thecanadianmc9424 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that “Ive Laster” is an anagram for “Evil Stare”? Seems like too unusual a name to be a coincidence, especially with the importance of the third eye…
@imm566
@imm566 2 жыл бұрын
That's some info. It probably be intentional
@venusjtd
@venusjtd 2 жыл бұрын
BRO-----
@kitteneyejo
@kitteneyejo 2 жыл бұрын
also sounds like 'eye blaster' lol
@GippyHappy
@GippyHappy 2 жыл бұрын
It's also an anagram for: -relatives -versatile and most importantly: -realities
@strawbebbiejam
@strawbebbiejam 2 жыл бұрын
are the other names anagrams? they sound weird enough that they might be
@SwordmaidenGwen
@SwordmaidenGwen 2 жыл бұрын
I had a thought, remember the poem Yuri wrote in the 2nd playthrough? The one titled "Wheel"? It might be a stretch but I think there might have been elements in it hinting at this truth; "A rotating wheel" = Machine? "A portal to another world" = The bridge between the Virtual Machines or the VMs and our world "Expanding universe", "Time controlled by slipping cogwheels" = The VMs being simulations "Existence of God", "A prayer written in blood" = Religious imagery "A thread connecting all human eyes" = Third eyes! "God disproving the existence of God" = the research team trying to prove that they themselves live in a simulated reality Just a random thought xD
@swimm8329
@swimm8329 2 жыл бұрын
ooh!
@lukethekuya
@lukethekuya 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mirhaz300 Even as a Christian I do want to see how Team Salvato would use the simulation theory and cults for their next game. I wanna know their thoughts of the world around us.
@Mirhaz300
@Mirhaz300 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukethekuya well, I kinda don't like simulated theory but yeah I just want see their thought about that. Edit: also I remove it since i don't like start war. Edit2: I rather ignore this theory since this made nonsense to me aswell. So yeah I turn off comment
@lukethekuya
@lukethekuya 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mirhaz300 Ah okies!
@isaac_bruh
@isaac_bruh 2 жыл бұрын
no joke, this is lowkey the best channel i've ever stopped by in years literally everything i thought about the game has been flipped around and now this game makes SO much more sense thanks The Game Theorists
@mingfanzhang8927
@mingfanzhang8927 Жыл бұрын
Cope
@isaac_bruh
@isaac_bruh Жыл бұрын
@@mingfanzhang8927 i swear ur a chinese warlord
@IDontLikeHandIes
@IDontLikeHandIes Жыл бұрын
@@mingfanzhang8927 🤓
@no.justno.697
@no.justno.697 10 ай бұрын
@@mingfanzhang8927 🤣
@mingfanzhang8927
@mingfanzhang8927 10 ай бұрын
@@no.justno.697 #Ramadan
@smr010
@smr010 2 жыл бұрын
After all this, I can only imagine some people of Team Salvato being like "hey our next game will be so epic, with so much to connect back to DDLC, and so much hidden lor- wait, how people already know almost everything?"
@memeberfunk2731
@memeberfunk2731 2 жыл бұрын
Understand this was a paid promotional video, nearly every video released since he hit 1 mill is a paid promo. He dosnt care about what we want to see.
@memeberfunk2731
@memeberfunk2731 2 жыл бұрын
He only did this topic to promote ddlc plus.
@aquabanana
@aquabanana 2 жыл бұрын
@@memeberfunk2731 wdym
@jacobwalls1990
@jacobwalls1990 2 жыл бұрын
@@memeberfunk2731 wtf are you talking about?
@cdr_wolfie1636
@cdr_wolfie1636 2 жыл бұрын
@@memeberfunk2731 who
@oldsoul3539
@oldsoul3539 2 жыл бұрын
Did you notice how every single character in the game has their hair covering their foreheads where a third eye would be? I'm guessing the twist is they've all had three literal eyes the entire time.
@anjie3871
@anjie3871 2 жыл бұрын
This… makes sense. Their hairstyles and character design don’t seem to be coincidence.
@YnForsaken
@YnForsaken 2 жыл бұрын
If there's anything that Scott teached me, there's no such things as coincidence in lore games like these.
@insertnameher31
@insertnameher31 2 жыл бұрын
yo hold on- you my friend, are onto something
@BouncingTribbles
@BouncingTribbles 2 жыл бұрын
12:55 i think you're spot on. They've been breeding girls with the potential, and they've started to develope a literal third eye
@Josh-of6gq
@Josh-of6gq 2 жыл бұрын
i think you’re onto something
@astraltail6176
@astraltail6176 2 жыл бұрын
Children: having an average, loving life. Renier: this is not *o k i e d o k i*
@jaysonlavern3453
@jaysonlavern3453 Жыл бұрын
12:00 as soon as Matpat said “As soon as Monica said-“ I got an advert that started with someone yelling *”I’M MAKIN’ WAFFLES”*
@thebeavpercabethftw9604
@thebeavpercabethftw9604 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the way each girl died will relate to the kind of torture they endured in Project Libitina. Strangulation for Sayori, starvation for Natsuki, and stabbing for Yuri.
@Brand_Fish
@Brand_Fish 2 жыл бұрын
Woah, dark but I think that's a cool idea
@thebeavpercabethftw9604
@thebeavpercabethftw9604 2 жыл бұрын
@@Brand_Fish Now that I think about it, Natsuki didn't die from starvation. She died from her neck snapping, but her father did not feed her enough.
@rosemerri
@rosemerri 2 жыл бұрын
Theoretically you could combine both options by having them starve her to the point where they could easily snap her bones Idk if that would work though, I’m not a doctor
@stafey7659
@stafey7659 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosemerri your bones get brittle when your malnourished, I heard thy somewhere.
@hillkids02
@hillkids02 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@xendurr8180
@xendurr8180 2 жыл бұрын
If Monika could communicate with Team Salvato- which are considered to be gods by the cult, that would make her identical to the proposed "perfect being" that the cult is trying to make. Imagine the shock they would be in to find out that a prototype for their "perfect being" is but a nurse.
@thecrimeboi4799
@thecrimeboi4799 2 жыл бұрын
Also the nurse is not yet with powers probably will happen tho through monika going into the nurse
@hypermtg
@hypermtg 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecrimeboi4799 what
@vanbusto8870
@vanbusto8870 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWbCfahtodZ7l6M
@cometisV2
@cometisV2 2 жыл бұрын
@@hypermtg i think they meant "maybe the nurse doesnt have powers until monika controls her" if you didnt get the wording
@captainahab5522
@captainahab5522 2 жыл бұрын
i think that Monika will infiltrate VM2 and use Ive to help her with the files and Marla will probably realize that she is Monika i think that the one who ascends has not been mentioned yet and is that white haired girl with glowing eyes
@angelseok8034
@angelseok8034 2 жыл бұрын
love that literary analysis is so integral in understanding what’s going on
@hunbun3683
@hunbun3683 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope they will make another game, I feel like it would help a lot with trying to figure out the lore. this game has so much lore to it, and most people don't really go into all of the lore
@Flaris
@Flaris Жыл бұрын
I'm sure they will. Don't think they released that updated version with all the extra lore if they weren't actively working on the next game.
@sharkskingaming6797
@sharkskingaming6797 Жыл бұрын
@@Flaris did they say anything hinting to the next update?
@codzuno
@codzuno 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the girls' (Sayori, Yuri and Natsuki) more negative sides of their personalities stem from their experiences within VM 2, or Project Libitina. I wonder if this new game would show how Sayori's depression, Yuri's obsession and self harm. and Natsuki's abusive guardian and neglect (him not feeding her) became such large parts of their personalities.
@manda5294
@manda5294 2 жыл бұрын
THTS SO SMART also love ur pfp
@leod.v.3854
@leod.v.3854 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it can make sense, natsukis experiment is not being properly fed, sayoris is probably isolation which is leaving her depressed due to lack of interactions probably sees her self not deserving of others because she hasn't been allowed to see other, while yuri could be one of their more successful test subjects since she likes the self harm and was one of the characters with the most connections to project libitina to the point she's heavily interested in the book based on libitina
@captainahab5522
@captainahab5522 2 жыл бұрын
@@leod.v.3854 i think that the portrait of markov wasn't originally in VM1 and somehow got in in a format that not just Monika can access and this makes sense because the two VM's are linked and Monika said that they all have some sort of memories
@--.._
@--.._ 2 жыл бұрын
@@leod.v.3854 I think Yuri will become the "killing machine", as she described. She was a successful product of the experiment based on her traits in VM 1.
@irisa198
@irisa198 2 жыл бұрын
@@--.._ I wonder if the killing machine bit isn't actually an intentional feature of the project, but rather a side-effect of realizing you live inside a simulation and therefore none of the people (nor their deaths) are "real"? It's maybe just a psychological reaction that happens to everyone who realizes it. So I agree, I feel like Yuri was a successful experiment, and that's also why she has the book in VM1 - her remnant of being closest to Monika's level of access (but without developer intervention).
@Dakwii
@Dakwii 2 жыл бұрын
It's a little late, but there is a line where you say to Yuri that the main character of the book reminds you of her, and she gets all flustered and goes what I don't think I am anything like her. But her reaction seems to hint in that direction that she is the girl in the book.
@moesdes
@moesdes 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was addressed in the original theory for ddlc.
@suicidemercianery
@suicidemercianery 2 жыл бұрын
I actualy did that, now it makes sense
@morganc.m1830
@morganc.m1830 2 жыл бұрын
@@moesdes it's not
@moesdes
@moesdes 2 жыл бұрын
@@morganc.m1830 hm, good to know then
@xtrem5428
@xtrem5428 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of the same thing. And when the player character says it's because she's always questioning herself, Yuri says she thought it was because of something else, farther in the story (likely something like self-harm).
@user-uv9hs9rn2e
@user-uv9hs9rn2e 2 жыл бұрын
Headcannon: Monika made the portrait of Markov specifically for Yuri as a clue to vm2
@gracetaylor2767
@gracetaylor2767 2 жыл бұрын
i can't believe how much thought went into DDLC & DDLC Plus, it's incredible the backstory. Everything makes so much more sense, so thank you for making these videos!
@NyanTheFurry
@NyanTheFurry 2 жыл бұрын
Yuri’s eye jumpscare is terrifying, but without all the effects and just her being close to you with the realistic eyes.. *H o l y f r i c k*
@lesleygarcia2746
@lesleygarcia2746 2 жыл бұрын
Timestamp 2:12 in case anyone's confused, it was rather subtle.
@NyanTheFurry
@NyanTheFurry 2 жыл бұрын
@@lesleygarcia2746 Yeah, it was terrifying
@poisonousbadge126
@poisonousbadge126 2 жыл бұрын
why are you a furry man
@aynmwa
@aynmwa 2 жыл бұрын
@@poisonousbadge126 cuz they’re cool
@miro_theburger
@miro_theburger 2 жыл бұрын
@@aynmwa i disagree
@spoopyspades5740
@spoopyspades5740 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the third eye is the higher level permissions that Monika has, since having a 3rd eye usually means some higher level of intelligence or fortune telling. In order to get a 3rd eye, you might need to have a variant in another simulation, like Monika does. This would make Yuri, Sayori, and Natsuki all test subjects with high 3rd eye potential. Just a small thought I had.
@zappinapplez
@zappinapplez 2 жыл бұрын
yooooo this actually makes a lot of sense seeing as that a lot of the “religion” that the people have in VM2 is based off real world stuff like their god being the game devs and the psychic power being some connection to the devs or some way to contact them.
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .....
@emilyjones9787
@emilyjones9787 2 жыл бұрын
I thought so too!!! That's why Monika is not a part of Project Libitina; shes an observer!
@liamhagie7988
@liamhagie7988 2 жыл бұрын
​ @about you shut up you have been posting this on every comment this week
@sampohaarala8948
@sampohaarala8948 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly thought this was obvious.
@olocippicolo
@olocippicolo 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing the song in the background at 5:40 made me feel nostalgic... Momento Mori. Wish [Redacted] was still with us. (just wanted to say that but also say that your theories are freaking amazing!)
@tntxgoodin
@tntxgoodin 2 жыл бұрын
Diving into this game and hearing matpat go into detail feels great. Makes your brain work, come up with new theories and what ifs. I hope there's even more to find out and hopefully, find an amazing ending.
@unk9192
@unk9192 2 жыл бұрын
The little “editing is my passion” thing floating around in comic sans was funnier than it should’ve been
@okuyasunijimura7952
@okuyasunijimura7952 2 жыл бұрын
Ayo timestamps please
@NeoJae
@NeoJae 2 жыл бұрын
1:27
@firemaster5042
@firemaster5042 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I loved that
@jackaboy305
@jackaboy305 2 жыл бұрын
Game companies when matpat talks about their game: "write that down, write that down"
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .. , .
@callmetatan
@callmetatan 2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@CajunBaconFanatic
@CajunBaconFanatic 2 жыл бұрын
We have to tell people this in a criptic way!
@KirstenMarie_MS3
@KirstenMarie_MS3 2 жыл бұрын
Lol... or just writer's in general.
@liamhagie7988
@liamhagie7988 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvestmentIdea shut up you have been posting this on every comment this week
@beanraris
@beanraris 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like theories like this are the exact purpose of the channel, these are part of the theories that I will remember and refer to and that change my entire understanding of a game (or film or food) most theories are fun for entertainment purposes but usually dig into stuff not really meant to be looked too much further into but it feels like this game was just waiting for you in particular to dig in and make this video, sure a bunch of people gathered clues too but you just put them all together to make the real story known and that’s pretty awesome
@demonheart.870
@demonheart.870 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Libitina was the goddess of funerals, team salvato sure is going nuts over this game.
@ozerune
@ozerune 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no way they’ve just been spending the last 4 years on some redone art. This extensive added lore makes me think a new game is coming. And coming soon.
@noneofyourbusiness4133
@noneofyourbusiness4133 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously you have no knowledge of greed. They probably did this to make us list after the next J J Abrahams style mystery box that will be empty… becuase there won’t BE a next game.
@Lu-sm8zw
@Lu-sm8zw 2 жыл бұрын
Last time I was on their official site (maybe 1 or 2 years ago) , Salvato actually said that, from all the people who work on ddlc, only one remain, I don't know if he was talking about himself or if there was another person with him, but this (and probably Covid) didn't help finish the game in time. I do hope a new game is coming soon, I really can't wait to see what type of game they did for the whole libitina story
@Ho_Lee_Fook
@Ho_Lee_Fook 2 жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness4133 what? Lmao
@ozerune
@ozerune 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lu-sm8zw it’s also possible he’s talking about the original ddlc project, not people currently working. At least that’s what I’m hoping for.
@allanknight_185
@allanknight_185 2 жыл бұрын
Team Salvato has no plans of making this "new game" what so ever.
@Ellicess
@Ellicess 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part about Project Libitina is that despite all the horrible things they’re doing. Despite the horrible atrocities they’ve committed. They’re right. They’re 100% correct in what they’re doing, and their methods are working.
@catnip202xch.
@catnip202xch. 2 жыл бұрын
And it it is absolutely horrifying
@d.l.8394
@d.l.8394 2 жыл бұрын
@yeah can you not?
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 2 жыл бұрын
Could it be the AI are the villains.....again.... Amd the Humans making them too, of course.....
@rasmusgarbonzo1411
@rasmusgarbonzo1411 2 жыл бұрын
how are they right lol
@allabtlauren
@allabtlauren 2 жыл бұрын
@@rasmusgarbonzo1411 everything they're doing is working, and proving the points they're trying to make.
@sp4cef0rc37
@sp4cef0rc37 7 ай бұрын
I think that since Monika escaped VM1 and possessed Ive, she will probably also help the player by implementing hints in the machine on how to help the others and it'll give some lore about how she's doing in Ive's body. I imagine the hints either as dialogue spawning randomly or as marks on the walls a little like the portal "the cake is a lie" messages.
@BerylLx
@BerylLx 4 ай бұрын
Confirmed: Project Libitina = Half Life 3.....? Game journos would have a field day with this one
@thatperson181_02
@thatperson181_02 Ай бұрын
So let me get this right, Paula and Ive are in our world, and they created DDLC and PL. The characters in PL are becoming sentient and are trying to figure out how to "accend" to our world. Monika in DDLC has done this by "accident" and "escaped" the simulation. Are the makers of PL trying to mirror real humans to see if "they" can awaken by themselves? And if so, I dont understand how Monika is connected to PL, they seem to be two separate entities completely and idk how Monika can identify the characters in PL as her friends in DDLC???
@Yes0622
@Yes0622 2 жыл бұрын
I played though both ddlc and ddlc+ and looked through what I could get my hands on and every conclusion that I made before watching this video matches
@LonelySandwich
@LonelySandwich 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh wow the trailer are attractive . It must be good game. It say horror but nah i think i can handle it." Now:
@anawilliams1332
@anawilliams1332 2 жыл бұрын
First reply
@user-ow2cs7fb5l
@user-ow2cs7fb5l 2 жыл бұрын
True lol
@notpanda3429
@notpanda3429 2 жыл бұрын
third reply
@itzdzyu
@itzdzyu 2 жыл бұрын
Breh
@uninable
@uninable 2 жыл бұрын
Okay.
@SomeoneWhoHere
@SomeoneWhoHere 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: "Libitina" is also an old latin term for "Death", which has been used in the works of classical Roman poets, such as Ovidius.
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I ........
@CallofDutyBlackOps28
@CallofDutyBlackOps28 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvestmentIdea hey; it'll be nice when i start hacking into your account and delete your account; wouldn't that be fun too?
@itsFnD
@itsFnD 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 Spammers deserve it
@davidarvingumazon5024
@davidarvingumazon5024 2 жыл бұрын
My random guess is that Paula is a Minecraft Miner ;^)
@CaptJCB_
@CaptJCB_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 dew it
@Cake-um7je
@Cake-um7je 2 жыл бұрын
Ive Laster also sounds like "I've Lost Her", maybe indicating Monika fleeing the game through his body and him not seeing her anymore in the game.
@GetMeMoreGuns
@GetMeMoreGuns 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this genuinely made my skin crawl and my spine go cold more times than in a horror movie
@ziza850
@ziza850 Жыл бұрын
This makes me question our reality even though this is JUST a game.
@TechBlade9000
@TechBlade9000 Жыл бұрын
Monika in the classroom in the sky has a dialogue prompt where she says novel horror is cooler horror since it relies on your imagination and the writer to explain the horror in a horrifying way
@nothsawalker7556
@nothsawalker7556 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense as to why Natsuki says she is beaten by her father, why Sayori (even though being a joy of life) has a deep depression, and why Yuri is obsessed with self harm and blood.
@YnForsaken
@YnForsaken 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@thebutterscotchkid2481
@thebutterscotchkid2481 2 жыл бұрын
@@YnForsaken Yeah, what do you mean?
@kirin1230
@kirin1230 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing OP is referring to their time in Libitina. Either fragments of their VM2 versions slip back to Doki Doki, or Monika's memory of them affected them? Idk, just a thought.
@DiddyBohlen
@DiddyBohlen 2 жыл бұрын
I do think that it’s connected. If not directly then it’s Monika giving them attributes that are directly drawn from Libitina.
@casualcommenter1188
@casualcommenter1188 2 жыл бұрын
Sayori has depression in the test VM where Monika has no access to VM2, so no, it doesn't seem like that's connected. Yuri and Natsuki though? It's possible
@frenchfries2998
@frenchfries2998 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Girls sad backstorys are based on how they are on the outside going through the excitements. Yuri could cut herself or has started liking and pain and can’t socialize. Natsuki has a older adult who physically abuses her alot and her form of torture is being starved. Sayori could be suicidal from all the expirements.
@wellusee688
@wellusee688 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I ..
@knight123x4
@knight123x4 2 жыл бұрын
If that's the case, that could be how you identify them in-game, if that's the goal.
@chibi_okami
@chibi_okami 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@kaitlyncorley1855
@kaitlyncorley1855 2 жыл бұрын
i hope this gets seen by MatPat!!
@batorerdyniev9805
@batorerdyniev9805 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellusee688 report
@emma_nutella58
@emma_nutella58 Жыл бұрын
Man I’m really looking forwards to project Libitina, and any future projects made by team Salvato
@TheDarksaphira
@TheDarksaphira 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh damn, using that Turncoat.... Still gives me chills, makes my heart beat faster. Gdi Mat. I would have never gotten any of this out of this game, if it wasn't for you guys btw. So, thank you so much :)
@kahnwae6324
@kahnwae6324 2 жыл бұрын
And the whole time Dan Salvato is just nodding along to this as Matpat basically invents the video game lore version of Rap God.
@Los_Hermanitos_Cruz
@Los_Hermanitos_Cruz 2 жыл бұрын
Haha well it's there to take xD
@whitesgonecool2467
@whitesgonecool2467 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine all this leading up to a rickroll
@petrfilipcik2960
@petrfilipcik2960 2 жыл бұрын
MatPat: *Theorizing* Team Salvato: thnx for the lore idea, will use it.
@user-cp3le5li1t
@user-cp3le5li1t 2 жыл бұрын
The same thing with matpat's Minecraft theories,and how mojang started using them to canonical lore,lol(idk if they're using his theories for real tho)
@petrfilipcik2960
@petrfilipcik2960 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for liking this comment, i got suddenly sick and this made my day, thank ya'll.
@user-cp3le5li1t
@user-cp3le5li1t 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrfilipcik2960 I wish you good health, I hope you'll get well very soon! (⊃。•́‿•̀。)⊃
@petrfilipcik2960
@petrfilipcik2960 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-cp3le5li1t Thank you..
@npc4416
@npc4416 2 жыл бұрын
different seem like that tho
@skyzorrobtd4991
@skyzorrobtd4991 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime i watch matpat my heart rate just went up so high his edits are insane goodjob edditors
@mochiii926
@mochiii926 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact! Ive Laster is an anagram of versatile, which is hinting at Monika being able to move freely between VM1 and VM2 just a fun little fact :)
@seraflmao
@seraflmao 2 жыл бұрын
"New monika!" *The more monika's the better.*
@jlmaa-imokay-575
@jlmaa-imokay-575 2 жыл бұрын
*Yes more Monika’s*
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .. ,
@woomyness2976
@woomyness2976 2 жыл бұрын
Nice you got a heart!
@BlueRaven2424
@BlueRaven2424 2 жыл бұрын
....ARE WE IN ONLINE CLASS GROUP? WHY Y'ALL KEEP POSTING LINK? ARE WE GOING TO THE MEET TO START A GOOGLE CLASS?
@randomhetaliastuff5998
@randomhetaliastuff5998 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like the yotuber nadwe when he appears in his friends videos
@cocowakey
@cocowakey 2 жыл бұрын
If this project libitina game ever comes out, I can only imagine how depressing its gonna be considering all the human experiments jeez...
@jaydostuffidk6723
@jaydostuffidk6723 2 жыл бұрын
don’t worry, if it was real the government will find it out
@alsocyan.4369
@alsocyan.4369 2 жыл бұрын
are you sure?
@jaydostuffidk6723
@jaydostuffidk6723 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, there could be a few left
@tilsgee
@tilsgee 2 жыл бұрын
@Sean Gerald Genona fran bow?
@cometisV2
@cometisV2 2 жыл бұрын
@@tilsgee you should check that game out its pretty interesting
@rufusrhodes3566
@rufusrhodes3566 Ай бұрын
The game will come out this year guys I swear
@cocoroses
@cocoroses Жыл бұрын
This lore is something else. Although this stuff is horribly disturbing, I honestly wanna know more.
@SoniasWay
@SoniasWay 2 жыл бұрын
When you don’t even play DDLC but Matt’s theories are so entertaining that you still watch
@loonieislost8528
@loonieislost8528 2 жыл бұрын
can relate-
@luistheugliestdude1909
@luistheugliestdude1909 2 жыл бұрын
Im too scared to play horror games, though Im very brave playing it with friends, without friends I wont be able to play the game.
@rarenerdw9611
@rarenerdw9611 2 жыл бұрын
True
@panjinurfadillah2489
@panjinurfadillah2489 2 жыл бұрын
True
@maureendave4426
@maureendave4426 2 жыл бұрын
I want to play the game but my mom just won't buy me a cp
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly, never would've thought that DDLC and FNAF would have lores this deep, if it weren't for MatPat
@MbitaChizi
@MbitaChizi 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk
@MbitaChizi
@MbitaChizi 2 жыл бұрын
👀👀
@imru1ing667
@imru1ing667 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you always everywhere. Are you even human??
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .. , .
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
O
@magmalegend8446
@magmalegend8446 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the editors put their BEST work in the ddlc episodes
@sunny9888
@sunny9888 2 жыл бұрын
“Monika pulled a William Afton” is my new favorite MatPat line
@Emmabowlesss
@Emmabowlesss 2 жыл бұрын
DDLC is so interesting. The bulk of the story isn’t even known by the general player. Even tho most people don’t even dive deep into the story or lore, it’s still an enjoyable game. You don’t need a reason for why monika is self aware, it’s still interesting enough to continue the game without all the information. That’s why this game is so damn good
@jonathanwilson5355
@jonathanwilson5355 2 жыл бұрын
Right?!? For the theorists, there’s so much content to sink your teeth into, and for the gamers, there’s a lot of themes, meta aspects & music that you can just appreciate without diving too deep into the game lore. Its kinda what gives DDLC its charm IMO.
@xephyre6955
@xephyre6955 2 жыл бұрын
But the thing is, the countless amounts of theories could may as well be advertise the developer himself or the game which in turn makes it more popular.
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .
@erricro3198
@erricro3198 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda feels like they were talking about the amputees as a sort of "cattle". The limbs are amputated to stop the subjects from resisting in any way, and to more easily selectively breed the subjects. Doubt they amputate JUST for the limbs.
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .
@ivon1671
@ivon1671 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvestmentIdea...why
@hawkbreaker7723
@hawkbreaker7723 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivon1671 money
@hawkbreaker7723
@hawkbreaker7723 2 жыл бұрын
Just report the bot for spam
@shaunleslie4143
@shaunleslie4143 2 жыл бұрын
No. They talk about a reduction in resource consumption, and about connecting subjects in parallel. And minimizing the distances between people. They are building a network of brains. No limbs means they need less food and allows you to pack them closer together.
@EndermanPierce
@EndermanPierce 2 жыл бұрын
i cant wait if theres ever going to be a new game, the whole desktop thing for ddlc plus was already super clean and cool. if theres a second game thats eventually released, i’d love to see what new development is made
@heartfullbutterfly314
@heartfullbutterfly314 2 жыл бұрын
Salvado has mentioned that he is working on another VN but the stress of ddlc's popularity caused some delays. Whether it's a sequel to ddlc or a completely new game it's tough to say
@aubreytownson425
@aubreytownson425 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s interesting too because in the new game Yuri talks about finally finishing the book she’s reading and being done with it as if in their “controlled” world the book is just a book and doesn’t have the power to bring her or the girls in, they just move on and she doesn’t overthink it too much or stop herself like the original game. In the plus version she just calls it fantasy with multiple time lines and is hard to follow- she doesn’t see it beyond fantasy but she may have unintentionally see where it all aligns and even gave notes on how to sayouri- it’s like they’re incapable of understanding the actual meaning
@kitkatcup
@kitkatcup 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the “genius” with no third eye who’s advancing Libitina’s work isn’t Renier and is in fact Ive Laster? That’s if Monika definitely has changed places with him. It would make sense for him to have no third eye and to be considered a genius as he’ll have insight that no one else in VM2 could possibly have. Just a mini theory!
@ariaofthe6strings230
@ariaofthe6strings230 2 жыл бұрын
If Monika really has switched places with Ive, he would only be at the literature club. Cause Monika only has access to VM1. She’s slowly gaining access to VM2, but she doesn’t have a stable connection.
@bobble68
@bobble68 2 жыл бұрын
@@ariaofthe6strings230 That being said though, Ive would have elevated access just as Monika did, possibly even higher, since he worked on the simulation, not just knowing about it. If this is the case, it's possible he made his way into VM2. It's also worth noting since both VM1 and 2 would be run on the same computer, they wouldn't be completely separate (as we see with Monika). One reason why Ive could go into VM2 rather than staying in 1 could be because they mentioned before that they were no longer looking at VM1. If he tried asking for help there, no one would hear him. So, he goes into VM2 with his knowledge, and uses it to accellerate the connection experiments, so he can get the attention of the other employees.
@reeba4824
@reeba4824 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I speculated this too
@isuckatmakinghandles
@isuckatmakinghandles 2 жыл бұрын
I believe also it's Ive. He never had anything to do with Project Libitina. He never has opened his third eye according to them. Monika could've transferred herself as Ive into VM2. If she just transferred herself it would look pretty suspicious due to Marla being a nurse there. Also Ive would be technically dead due to nothing controlling the brain. Monika has seen everything that has been happening in VM2, so she knows basically everything that is happening in Project Libitina. Monika has all the information to "help" this cult. She made Ive join Project Libitina to gain their trust. They gave basically Monika the guardian role for Project Libitina when in fact she is guarding the girls. im just adding this to your theory if this makes any sense
@ariaofthe6strings230
@ariaofthe6strings230 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobble68 I don’t think Ive would have had Kernel Access like Monika has simply because Monika YEETED him into VM1 or 2. It’s BECAUSE he doesn’t have kernel access that he can’t manipulate the reality of either VM. While the possibility of it being Ive is there, VM1 is a seperate entity. Even if it’s on the same computer, any administrator on a virtual machine cannot alter the files of other, NOT connected file to the virtual machine that said administrator has access to. It’s why if you ran a virtual machine of windows vista on your windows 10 device, your windows vista virtual machine can’t alter your windows 10 files. Unless deliberate, meticulous outside work was done in terms of coding and the changing of disk image partitioning would allow such a thing to be possible. It’s why in the emails, a member of the Metaverse team said she had an idea to establish a more stable connection to VM2 due to VM1 taking loose data.
@nytso4940
@nytso4940 2 жыл бұрын
When the dr says the patients have “different features than normal,” is he saying that those different features are what Yuri’s eyes look when they become hyper realistic?
@vanbusto8870
@vanbusto8870 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWbCfahtodZ7l6M
@4dsushi217
@4dsushi217 2 жыл бұрын
isnt that just editing?
@just_lyre5786
@just_lyre5786 2 жыл бұрын
@@4dsushi217 hmm, I think what they're saying is that maybe those eyes are the ones that are the irl counterparts/patient of Yuri.
@--.._
@--.._ 2 жыл бұрын
it may be the third eye they're talking about, not sure
@baslanoQrotossplay
@baslanoQrotossplay 2 жыл бұрын
@@4dsushi217 no, it's in the game
@megawolfang2464
@megawolfang2464 2 жыл бұрын
I think i've found an explanation for the story of "Portrait of Markov" Metaverse made VM2 as a simulation in which unlike VM1 where Monika knows she is in a simulation and can manipulate it, In VM2 they only suspect that they live in a simulation or know but cant manipulate it, so in order to find out if they do live in a simulation or breakthrough it, they start experiments on humans physically and psychologically to somehow create a way to either breakthrough the simulation or manipulate it. PROJECT Libitina is a simulation of what humans would do if they become aware of living in a simulation.Kinda scary when you think about it like that.
@dzdawlatzwamel9795
@dzdawlatzwamel9795 2 жыл бұрын
I think more that their ultimate goal is to reach our world. When you think about it, this is not at all different from our current wo
@TheMrFish-_-
@TheMrFish-_- 3 ай бұрын
I want doki doki to make a come back fr
@Neekachu11
@Neekachu11 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe how deep this lore goes, thank you MattPat for opening my eyes (or should I say, third eye?) to all of this! I am truly blown away by how much attention to detail you need get all this information.
@stefanosspiratos4192
@stefanosspiratos4192 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it sounds like they stole the idea from the movie the martyr but I don’t mind that much Here is a link about what the movie is about kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4OYdZidgMl_eqs
@colorlessbonnie
@colorlessbonnie 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefanosspiratos4192 ooo thanks
@kurthurt5068
@kurthurt5068 2 жыл бұрын
Puns...the bane of my existence
@wellusee688
@wellusee688 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I ..
@slyceth
@slyceth 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefanosspiratos4192 no it was stolen from the game The Talos Principle
@Samsquanch8716
@Samsquanch8716 2 жыл бұрын
This actually makes a lot of sense, I’m really excited to see where Dan Salvato and Co. take this franchise. It has the popularity and the lore to really create some intriguing stories, hopefully it won’t be years away 😅
@stefanosspiratos4192
@stefanosspiratos4192 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it sounds like they stole the idea from the movie the martyr but I don’t mind that much Here is a link about what the movie is about kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4OYdZidgMl_eqs
@albertpoole1351
@albertpoole1351 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 420
@starlingwessel7937
@starlingwessel7937 10 ай бұрын
how is Matpat not a detective like he would be perfect for the job
@boltindie9011
@boltindie9011 Жыл бұрын
While there's this definition of the name Libitina which gives us a possible answer for the "Name implies death" line at 12:44 "Libitina, also Libentina or Lubentina, is an ancient Roman goddess of funerals and burial. Her name was used as a metonymy for death, and undertakers were known as libitinarii. Libitina was associated with Venus, and the name appears in some authors as an epithet of Venus." and rewinding back to the 2017 theories Matpat concluded that Libitina is none other than Yuri based on that doctor's report ending with Renier being questioned if he has as much faith in his employees as he does with his god. Additionally Libitina could be the main subject of the game since not only is she a character, the whole project is named after her, and it would explain the "She will lead the path to ascension, and we will follow" line at 7:08. My Prediction (My Generic Brand Diet prediction!), is that Libitina (VM2's Yuri varient) will be our last and most dire rescue, since she cannot repress her third eye, which means we'll have to be VERY, VERY, VERY Careful, or else she might end up being the final piece to completing the angel in mortal skin, and oh boy do I want to knock Renier and the Academy's lights out and watch as their arrogance turns to pure, unadulterated fear as everything they worked for turns to dust.
@capncake8837
@capncake8837 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if it’s all a set-up and the upcoming game is just DDLC, but as a normal dating simulator.
@YnForsaken
@YnForsaken 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I'd be hella mad!
@dhareshm6189
@dhareshm6189 2 жыл бұрын
it better not be lol
@averylxu2855
@averylxu2855 2 жыл бұрын
Ill find it still exciting but l still want project libitina as a game T-T
@paulseblano2761
@paulseblano2761 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I wouldn’t mind that.
@kyumazu1926
@kyumazu1926 2 жыл бұрын
I wish
@alexlawson9950
@alexlawson9950 2 жыл бұрын
please give the editors a raise for “graphic design is my passion”
@jlmaa-imokay-575
@jlmaa-imokay-575 2 жыл бұрын
Same like it’s so good
@Slantt
@Slantt 2 жыл бұрын
These legends
@zududeditor4576
@zududeditor4576 Жыл бұрын
:_
@Alexaq268
@Alexaq268 5 ай бұрын
I hope project Libitina becomes a real game tbh
@JesskuHatsune
@JesskuHatsune 6 ай бұрын
Plot twist: Project Libitina is just a fighting game and the "Third Eye" is the name of the comeback mechanic
@toad_625
@toad_625 4 ай бұрын
This would make sense because the creator of DDLC loves super smash bros melee
@calipupcorn3886
@calipupcorn3886 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when this game was just a dating sim. Now we have more complicated lore and Monika is still best girl.
@gabrielwintergreen7493
@gabrielwintergreen7493 2 жыл бұрын
What other girls, it's *Just Monika*
@Lrbearclaw
@Lrbearclaw 2 жыл бұрын
The game was NEVER "just a dating sim"...
@harrya9458
@harrya9458 2 жыл бұрын
You have good taste, my friend
@HERACULUS-yk7zn
@HERACULUS-yk7zn 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jam8eWh5jcejj6M
@lordmggordon
@lordmggordon 2 жыл бұрын
this was never a dating sim, part of this lore (like the existence of project Libitina) was already present in the first version of the game/lh
@Xil_Gon_Give_It_To_Ya
@Xil_Gon_Give_It_To_Ya 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no. Thinking about this makes me so sad-- what if "The Portrait of Markov" was Monika's attempt to tell her friends in DDLC about the horrors of VM2? Was she trying to warn them? Was she seeing if they had the same access and could help?
@leahkloostra1899
@leahkloostra1899 2 жыл бұрын
wait that actually makes a bit of sense!!! does it fit with what Monika says about towards the ending?? like where she mentions it and then changes the subject?? I'm not thinking too clearly rn so I genuinely don't know loll
@oberon1449
@oberon1449 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, the book was Monica's way of giving access to the person who read it, Yuri, but when she got access, the memories and images she saw and heard drove her insane and made her suicidal. Those are not images that just anyone could handle, so Monica never tried it again with anyone else.
@patyluna821
@patyluna821 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon1449 Or maybe SHE DID, with Sayori, and that's how she developed her depression
@patyluna821
@patyluna821 2 жыл бұрын
And maybe Natsuki retains those traces of abuse
@L_Ratio_Bozo_
@L_Ratio_Bozo_ 2 жыл бұрын
yoo all of this is so crazy for me
@joshualeahy2162
@joshualeahy2162 2 жыл бұрын
God I can't wait for more potential lore/another game. Love it, can't get enough. ^-^
@purpolchankaina
@purpolchankaina Жыл бұрын
He has so much patient to get all of this info, Respect👁👄👁👏
@brandonseupersad7916
@brandonseupersad7916 2 жыл бұрын
I think when Monika "untied the knot" to the "screaming writhing misery" inside the other girls she actually leaked data from vm2's version of the girls making them change horribly bad.
@oibruv9958
@oibruv9958 2 жыл бұрын
Mat’s mom: “Mat did you eat your DEEP LORE pills” Mat:”YES MOM”
@guizhong805
@guizhong805 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Vivigreeny25
@Vivigreeny25 2 жыл бұрын
HE HAS CONSUMMED THE DEEP LORE PILLS
@oibruv9958
@oibruv9958 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vivigreeny25 yes he has
@Pinkdisaster0
@Pinkdisaster0 2 жыл бұрын
Mompat
@flamemix2320
@flamemix2320 2 жыл бұрын
@KY5 [9th Main Account] don't Mind me slaping that report button becuse 4yo are not suppoust to have a yt account See ya in hell I hope your pillow will be warm on both sides
@daemon1426
@daemon1426 Ай бұрын
I mean about the yuri being libitina we literally tell her the mc reminds us of her when we read with her in the main game
@aarspi
@aarspi Жыл бұрын
This might’ve already been said but: Monika might have been the doctor who speaks of Renier and tries to make a clinical examination of Elyssa on the message within the first game. Hence why she says “if they remembered me in the other worlds”
@igiem368
@igiem368 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if this has any bearing on the theory, but if you look at Monica’s attempts to block out the characters in the first game, the portions of the characters removed are pixelated body parts. Could these glitched out body parts have something to do with the body being created in Project Libitina?
@scaper8
@scaper8 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, now that's an interesting connection. Some others here have noted Yuri's cutting could be tied to them cutting and stitching her and the others in VM2. Also noting her cutting isn't tied to self-harm the way it usually is in real life, more a fascination with blood.
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I ........
@Cevic777
@Cevic777 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, i kinda created a comment almost equal to yours, sorry. not copying, i didn't read the comments yet before.
@sampohaarala8948
@sampohaarala8948 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna add the though of @sh4d0wfl4re to this. Perhaps the increased affinity with the third eye, or elevation of access however you wanna put it, gives a window for Monika to transport the beings to the other VM? Wilder yet, what if the characters desent to madness that happened in DDLC1 was just Monikas attempt to create a better similarity between the characters in VM1 and VM2. So they could be exported easier? Or perhaps that was the side-effect of the export? God this franchise is so good. It makes you think.
@robonator2945
@robonator2945 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvestmentIdea you have now used several alt accounts to post that same thing, stop.
@hmmmhmmm4904
@hmmmhmmm4904 2 жыл бұрын
imagine the game devs just watching these videos and being like: nah it's more complicated than that
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .. , .
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 2 жыл бұрын
Matpat’s mind just explodes
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 2 жыл бұрын
I am so unpretty 😭 When I go to the bank, they turn the cameras off. At least I am a big star on YT. Don't feel too bad for me, dear h
@Isakube
@Isakube 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku yeah they got a damn good reason to turn em off
@kxtbit
@kxtbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvestmentIdea more bots, perfect
@christiansnaturestudio6599
@christiansnaturestudio6599 2 жыл бұрын
I am probably won't be sleeping tonight after watching this. This is honestly way too disturbing 😳. I love your dedication to your deep analysis and drawing conclusions skills btw.
@BlueLoveYT
@BlueLoveYT Жыл бұрын
I feel like Matpat always has a field day with DDLC. This series has so much hidden lore and symbolism
@jacobtidwell8869
@jacobtidwell8869 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that over two years ago, on a Bendy and the Ink Machine theory, I made a joke comment that Matt hearted and pinned about Monika being a human soul trapped inside a computer character. Well, I guess Monika herself wasn't a human soul trapped inside a computer, but she instead trapped someone else's soul in there instead. I'm a partial prophet!
@InvestmentIdea
@InvestmentIdea 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I ...
@psytf2
@psytf2 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvestmentIdea self promoting will only make your "main channel" have a bad image
@callmeobsequious
@callmeobsequious 2 жыл бұрын
@Mr.Springtrap A body swap is trapping someone in her world while possessing their body. It's a little bit of both.
@liamhagie7988
@liamhagie7988 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvestmentIdea shut up you have been posting this on every comment this week
@Roinkki
@Roinkki 2 жыл бұрын
“Libitina, in Roman religion, goddess of funerals. At her sanctuary in a sacred grove (perhaps on the Esquiline Hill), a piece of money was deposited whenever a death occurred. There the undertakers (libitinarii) had their offices, and there all deaths were registered for statistical purposes. The word Libitina thus came to be used for the business of an undertaker, funeral requisites, and, by poets, for death itself.” For one thing, if this is Roman religion, then there are multiple Gods. So if this is JUST Project Libitina, then are there more projects? For another, it mentions poets. Sound familiar? (Hint-literature) Also I copy pasted that from a website-
@acethepacifist1041
@acethepacifist1041 2 жыл бұрын
So- my theory: the project(s?) will be “unlocked” through the years here(irl), and we will see a huge project by the end of this, linking all to the truth that they are just a game, and then the player comes in to save them(the player working with Monika) idk tho- just a slight theory-
@wellusee688
@wellusee688 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I ..
@OncelerKidsAreCringe
@OncelerKidsAreCringe 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellusee688 STOP
@Roinkki
@Roinkki 2 жыл бұрын
@@acethepacifist1041 That’s a good theory!! :D I kinda believe that since DDLC was VM1, that DDLC+ might be VM2. I’m not so sure about this one though : )
@Frankenstein8260
@Frankenstein8260 2 жыл бұрын
@@OncelerKidsAreCringe apple is a bot
@lilmeowmeow667
@lilmeowmeow667 Жыл бұрын
I just realized something I don't think was mentioned anywhere, considering that the new update has a desktop home screen as part of the gameplay, wouldn't it imply that that same home screen gives us clues to who we are playing as? Since we can find emails from the Salavato development team, my guess is we are playing as one of the developers mentioned. Maybe even as Ive when he isn't under Monika's control, or maybe...we are Monika????? Controlling Ive??? Too far? Probably but us being one of the developers makes sense I think
@sophiags4240
@sophiags4240 Жыл бұрын
"Angel in mortal skin" and "ascension" reminds me of Monika, honestly, and how she was able to get *elevated* access to the system and ultimately leave VM1.
@whelve13
@whelve13 2 жыл бұрын
The lyrics of the credits screen song "Your Reality" also kind of indicate the fact that Monika wants us to help her and grant her a good ending, a good future. "Every day, I imagine a future where I can be with you"
@jollyimposter
@jollyimposter 2 жыл бұрын
*claps*
@imm566
@imm566 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but there was no happy ending at the end of it due the fact that this game might be unfinished
@whelve13
@whelve13 2 жыл бұрын
@@imm566 exactly, and the fact that after we delete Monika and Sayori becomes aware kind of makes most theories about the new game not true.. wait I just realised a possible cause for Sayori to commit suicide after becoming aware... Maybe the fact that she is a child in the VM2 ??
@popanda3652
@popanda3652 2 жыл бұрын
@@whelve13 i can see that. Good theory
@kynnedifaust3121
@kynnedifaust3121 2 жыл бұрын
What if there's a DLC or something that comes out where you can finally date Monika and you go to the festival with the girls (I know it exists in the fanbase, but I mean like it's made by Team Salvato)
@renthomas2692
@renthomas2692 2 жыл бұрын
This is also an idea from a story telling perspective, but I think it could have some merit. Monika could have been Elyssa. Elyssa being one of the original patients makes me believe that she could've had some influence over the formation of The Academy itself and not just her being a believer. Imagine if Monika, the VM2 version being unaware of the repercussions of her actions, tries to get everyone to understand they're in a simulation. Once she's able to prove it, they begin to form a cult dedicated to figuring out how to ascend. They have no issue with harming their (or other's) 'physical' bodies because they're NOT physical. They're not real. Eventually Monika begins to realize that she went too deep, that even though it's a simulation it's still real to them. She begins to see the consequences of her actions and makes an effort to stop The Academy, leading to her (Elyssa) being terminated. I wouldn't say it's a stretch to imagine 'ghosts' being possible in this game, due to them saying how data wasn't being zeroed out between the servers. Monika from DDLC might be able to control Elyssa's 'ghost' and use her to speak to Marla, who becomes aware of the atrocities. It then becomes her goal to save the DDLC girls because of the emphasis Elyssa puts on them. I don't know, but I like this idea and where it could lead. Thoughts?
@cometisV2
@cometisV2 2 жыл бұрын
thatd be fun
@whelve13
@whelve13 2 жыл бұрын
amazing theory
@CHRONE_GRIPS
@CHRONE_GRIPS 2 жыл бұрын
This needs to go into the subreddit
@NeilJan99
@NeilJan99 2 жыл бұрын
I also agree with this theory because Elyssa has 6 letters - same as Monika.
@aliya0614
@aliya0614 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh I like this theory!! It will also create some sort of law or rule that no matter where Monika is, in the other games or universes, she always realises that she's in a simulation
@justted3048
@justted3048 Жыл бұрын
it’s funny how the original main character doesn’t even matter anymore. He’s just kinda been through hell and that’s his piece of the pie over
@Tt-The-Creative
@Tt-The-Creative 5 ай бұрын
Who remembers when this was new 💀
@sampohaarala8948
@sampohaarala8948 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t there an entity in the control group given elevated access without the entity discovering it? Could it be possible that this entity isn’t Monika but Yuri? Since she is reading the book that tells her about VM2 but she’s just not aware of it actually telling about another world. She has the access to the knowledge but isn’t aware of it.
@Traystigo
@Traystigo 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really cool thought. It makes sense to me, it's almost too obvious when I think about it haha.
@Omnomnomfish
@Omnomnomfish 2 жыл бұрын
I was pretty sure they said they didn't make a control group, they talked about it but ultimately decided to create a snapshot of the VM at an earlier point in time (the side stories), and just made sure Monika didn't notice her access yet
@stefanosspiratos4192
@stefanosspiratos4192 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it sounds like they stole the idea from the movie the martyr but I don’t mind that much Here is a link about what the movie is about kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4OYdZidgMl_eqs
@wellusee688
@wellusee688 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZfNlmuhdtuLe5I .. .
@vanbusto8870
@vanbusto8870 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHKse5aHoZqXmMk
@iiantixsocial
@iiantixsocial 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that when they make Project Libitina into a game, the start of it would be how Yuri described Portrait Of Markov in Act 1. (You move in with your long-lost younger sister and then things happen. I mean, why else would Dan put that into DDLC if it didn't mean something?) The way she describes it in Act 2, would be the dark twist (Religious camp, human experiments, etc) that you would find out as you prolong through the game. (Or you, the player, finds out about, but the character you play as doesn't, and you have to make choices in order for that dark thing not to happen.) By the way Yuri describes it in Act 1 makes it seem like all your choices matter greatly on how the story plays out. I feel like you'd have to think deeply before you make a decision, and once you make that decision, towards the end, that's when your decision plays a strong role. (Pretty much all your decisions are much more important and should be picked very wisely with a lot of thought.)
@creativesundae2086
@creativesundae2086 2 жыл бұрын
It makes sense, maybe they made the same mistake as monika or something?
@Chillerll
@Chillerll 2 жыл бұрын
Who knows, maybe Marla and Monika are sisters and not the same person.
@kenny3015
@kenny3015 2 жыл бұрын
j o t a r o
@HERACULUS-yk7zn
@HERACULUS-yk7zn 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jam8eWh5jcejj6M
@Envy_May
@Envy_May 2 жыл бұрын
is it possible/probable that we'll be playing from yuri's perspective, which will follow the story of the main character from the book, and she'll be renamed to libitina or something ?
@PettityPetPetRoccityRocRoc
@PettityPetPetRoccityRocRoc Жыл бұрын
Amazing that the only reason why I can analyze stories so well is because of indie games.
@tiaralee7392
@tiaralee7392 2 жыл бұрын
man your series of DDLC theories is EPIC
@KogasaTatara514
@KogasaTatara514 2 жыл бұрын
"She will walk the path to Ascension and we will follow" "will Ascend and bring salvation to all" Kanye Quest anyone? Edit: Nvm, he mentioned that right afterwards lol
@bryleivanomay9265
@bryleivanomay9265 2 жыл бұрын
Why tf are there only 2 bots here on ur replies Thought ascension just gives me the same and jojo vibes
@KogasaTatara514
@KogasaTatara514 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryleivanomay9265 I'm surprised too, but not complaining.
@Fishnberg
@Fishnberg 2 жыл бұрын
This entire game is a freaking Touhou 15.5 reference lmao perfect possession?!? Now This is freaking touhou reference
@AUG_Glow
@AUG_Glow 2 жыл бұрын
When u say nvm instead of just deleting the comment:
@DeathkaiserG
@DeathkaiserG 2 жыл бұрын
LoL yeah that's what I thought at first xD
@Holywaturr
@Holywaturr 2 жыл бұрын
Games: it’s so hard to come up with lore! Matpat: anyway, here’s every little detail about what the lore could possibly be
@ZhappyGotTaken
@ZhappyGotTaken 2 жыл бұрын
@@averageohiocitzen3148 WTF dude why is jack's dad burning
@fazestepbro49
@fazestepbro49 2 жыл бұрын
WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
@NoHandle44
@NoHandle44 2 жыл бұрын
Unless it's Hollow Knight... Or Metroid Fusion.... Then he gets it completely wrong even when the game flat out tells him what's up.
@totallynotaminecraftchanne1923
@totallynotaminecraftchanne1923 2 жыл бұрын
Game: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
@teasoturkish
@teasoturkish 2 жыл бұрын
the game : a kid died matpat : bUT... by who? Where? When? Whyyyy?
@JWalt-gt4jt
@JWalt-gt4jt 2 жыл бұрын
"Ive Laster" "I've lost her" 🤔
@psachickennugget8617
@psachickennugget8617 2 жыл бұрын
And we’ve still got 3 more whole VMs left to explore...
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