Valheim vs Enshrouded - Physics and Details Comparison

[@fvkijay]

It's insane how Valheim has such good atmosphere at such low fidelity.

[@alan138]

Thats the magic of post processing and global ilumination or also called volumetric lightning my friend. That's why even on ps1 textures you have a sense and feel of space and profudity. I learned all this stuff a few years ago messing around with unity and unreal, the importance of the scene building, lightning setup, climate, etc, they are more important than graphics in to contribute to have a live scene that's intriguing and make you wonder for every corner. i remember downloading the best quality assets, 4k textures, pbr shaders, all that good expensive stuff, but if you dont know how to setup properly the scene, and create a interesting atmosphere, its feel like dull, like if the assets are on a shelf, zero interest. So at the end of the day, graphic fidelity and quality in therms of texture and shaders, all that, is the final touch of a game.

[@fvkijay]

@@alan138 You're right. I think, ordinarily, those effects are extremely expensive, so the devs recognized that in an open world setting (and third person character), people tend to pay less attention to close up textures and details. That allowed them to craft something much more immersive than high end games with AAA budgets. It does become more noticeable in the early dungeons, but even then, only if you are consciously looking for it.

[@zlotywest860]

The fire and smoke paired with the looks. Really feels comfortable. But enshrouded just adds what I miss in valheim. More freedom in building and more deco.

[@valentinlopezmunoz8269]

What having a good Environment Artist does to a mfer

[@lincolnpreuit6993]

The magic of ART-STYLE

[@Rich4098]

I think you can't compare the two games in terms of emotional impact. Every new stage of Valheim is terrifying in such a good way.

[@Mhantrax]

Totally agree. I have 1500+ hours in Valheim and eagerly await the next biome. That being said, to me, the reason you can't compare those two games is because their intended gameplay experiences are inherently different. I think calling Enshrouded a survival game does it a disservice because people go into the game expecting and comparing it to Valheim. I certainly did. It was such a shock when I played the dem that I wrote a whole KZbin reply to a video stating how it just didn't have the same environment or feel to it. It felt empty and disconnected. Well, it turns out there is a reason for that. Enshrouded is much more Breath of the Wild than Valheim. Once you start playing it like an open world adventure game with an added (best in the business) building system, the game completely transforms. But you don't HAVE to do anything. You don't have to make and use food. If you skip food in Valheim you did a thousand horrible deaths. You don't have to build in Enshrouded. If you don't build in Valheim then...you dead. The progression into new biomes aren't abjectly terrifying due to the design of being under geared and homeless when you enter the new biome. In Valheim, just taking a boat ride to try to locate a new biome puts you in hyper vigilant mode, and for good reason: serpents can kill you and force multi hour corpse retrievals and move too close to a plains biome and you are mosquito food with an even more difficult corpse retrieval. In Enshrouded, at least at this point it's developmental, none of that is even in the design. What is in the design is an open world absolutely stuffed with amazing locations that you find on your way to a quest....only to be sidetracked for hours as you make your way to that original quest marker, just like BotW.

[@007ptb007]

@@Mhantrax spot on , completely agree, two very different games, just yesterday I was telling a friend who's a huge zelda fan that he'd love it, he said 'ah I'm not really into valheim style all the survival and cooking'...so I told him none of that is necessary and its not really a survival game, so now he's interested.

[@ShizaruBloodrayne]

@@Mhantrax I feel this 100%. I hopped in Enshrouded hoping it would be like a custom map version of Valheim with Dark Souls-like dungeons, but it does feel more like Breath of the Wild for sure. As much as I love Zelda though, this game lost my interest not too far in. Mostly because the building for me felt very limited in comparison and also, since the game starts you off at the bottom of a pre rendered map, hopping in a public server was a mistake, as I quickly realized the first few areas were completely looted and world progression was already pushed outwards. On top of that, building a base feels very detached. Yeah I can fast travel, but the further in game you go, the further you feel away from a main base unless you're trying to dispurse outward in smaller camps, or build a base further out but with the consequence of the area being overleveled. In Valheim, the world is eternally explorable since it's procedurally generated. You get the gist of the biome and know what's in it, but the layout is always different. In Enshrouded and BoTW, you really only explore the map once unless you play again at a later day in life after forgotten. So I mean having a static map is cool and all, but it's easily exploitable by veteran players (which I'm sure by NOW there are some lol)

[@entelin]

​@@MhantraxI think we can distill your comparison between the two games a bit. In Valheim, all of the game mechanics matter, in Enshrouded they don't. A good game design is one where the development effort you are spending on the game is impactful to the player. The Enshrouded engine has a lot of cool capabilities, but they aren't always put to use in service of the gameplay. By comparison, BotW, ToK, and Valheim, or any other great game, the resources and time spent developing the game went into things that were gameplay centric. It makes no sense to build an amazing voxel engine, if the gameplay that you then implement on top of it, doesn't really lean into it. They spent an enormous amount of time on that technology and the building systems.... but gameplay wise, building is highly optional? What?

[@fantasymmorpgroleplayer8871]

Agreed. They aren't the same game. I hated having to constantly eat in Valheim. Not a fan of survival games. I also hated how finicky building was in Valheim. Flattening terrain or shaping terrain was so frustrating. Emshrouded is perfect for me. I get to build all I want and RP in peace. Food is important for fights. It helps a ton when gathering, too. But when you're back at your base... no reason to eat in Enshrouded.

[@pipo9713]

Played the hell out of Valheim back when pandemic. It gave me that thrill of exploration. Sailing to a different island and hauling valuable ores across the sea is such a unique gaming experience.

[@Razorhunter5]

Yeah going hard afk for 30 mins with some lumps of ore 😂

[@C0teeenn]

@@Razorhunter5😂😂😂 tell me about it. I just afk and watch KZbin till then

[@seamusthestout462]

the stress of a full boat of iron and a serpent spawns behind you

[@Raxx1111]

the feeling when you carrying all of the ores you mine from the island to your home base.. unforgettable

[@atlantic_love]

Why did you feel it was necessary to mention the pandemic? It had nothing to do with video games.

[@nexusta5514]

i think many people forget that you need less than 2 gb to download valheim and around 60 for enshrouded

[@sonoftristram]

Enshrouded actually does a great job in this regard because you only really download around 11 GB

[@olliep6794]

And at >2gb you can get ~50+ hours in one playthrough. Amazing optimization

[@sonoftristram]

@@olliep6794 tbf Gamefiles need a lot more space as soon as you start exploring your first map and needed space adds up with every new map you discover. Hasn't really to do with optimization and rather with no pre generated map and low res graphics ( which does by no means meant low quality) But I agree, downloading 2 GB and having amazing immersive fun for that many hours is indeed great 👍

[@WeAsOneRise]

Just shows how lazy some companies are with optimization man fr, so much content in 2 gigs based on other games you'd think it's impossible lmao but it's clearly not.

[@sonoftristram]

@@WeAsOneRise yeah because there's no maps or high res graphics that need much space lol. That's not optimization, that's design choices 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@007ptb007]

The trees falling in valheim is an amazing game mechanic, I wish the Bow in Enshrouded was more like Valheims aswell

[@GecaaaHUN]

What do you mean? It's possible in Enshrouded to aim with a bow like in Valheim (you can aim with RMB and let the arrow fly with LMB).

[@tincustefanlucian7495]

The tree falling is a stupid mechanic, completely ilogical, out of this world, i don't like it.

[@007ptb007]

@@GecaaaHUN thats not like valheim, in Valheim Holding down the primary attack button draws the bow back, improving accuracy and damage when the arrow is released, in Enshrouded you draw with the secondary attack (a default full draw) and fire with the primary (a default distance), I prefer the valheim mechanism, the power is determined by draw strain (like a real bow) , Enshrouded is a predetermined distance as soon as you press the primary attack, the challenge in Enshrouded is learning or guessing what the predetermined distance is whereas in valheim you have to learn or guess how long you draw whilst considering your stamina and the arrow fall...maybe this isn't the case on the console version of valheim because I'm not sure how it would work but on PC its great, really responsive and you can fire quickly if an enemy is close by.

[@007ptb007]

@@tincustefanlucian7495 I assume you're joking, trees falling down when you chop them down is illogical?? You can't be serious. On a serious note its one of the best features I've seen in any game in years, we've use the mechanism as a defence, we grow then on a hill and when enemies are attacking from below we cut them down and let them roll down ontop of them, also when you're in a multiple troll fight in a forest and hiding behind trees and the trees are taken out by the trolls.. its brilliant. Also how a felled tree will sometimes catch on other healthy trees and lodge into them or possibly damage them or even take them out aswell..the whole tree mechanics is just fantastic

[@NoxusGr01]

​@@tincustefanlucian7495I agree. It's cool for the first few times then it became an unnecessary gimmick...

[@o3Do-d4g]

A major mining detail that you missed is that Enshrouded lets you dig tunnels whereas in Valheim whatever you mine will always be exposed to the sky

[@thuff86]

You forgot that digging outside your limited base ring in enshrouded is pointless, considering the moment you log off the land goes back to being untouched.

[@Priceless406]

its not pointless you obviously dont know how to use the mechanics right, instead of going all the way around somewhere you can now dig to the top @@thuff86

[@andrewseaman615]

​@thuff86 id rather have that. You'd render whole sections of the valheim map unusable after too much terraforming and building. The game turned into a slideshow until you moved to a new section.

[@mughug9616]

@@thuff86 I have used the digging (outside limited base ring) in Enshrouded to bypass land barriers and create my own custom routes and access areas I could not otherwise.

[@AscendantStoic]

True, but you can always place roof on your trenches or dig into rocks or underneath stuff in Valheim to provide a roof for as you dig deeper into the ground.

[@Daveruz]

You can feel every weapon and tool impact in Valheim, Every door closing and opening. the atmosphere and immersion is amazing!!

[@14k46]

its good a game :]

[@chonkyboi._.]

for your millenial ass, sure. for us its amaZing@@14k46

[@princegenesis5331]

yup. too bad for @14k46 maybe he just cant beat the game lol

[@Will-nn3pb]

@@Daveruz no need to attack him because he thinks a game is garbage 😂

[@Daveruz]

@@Will-nn3pb He also didn't need to give his insignificant opinion in my comment.💁🏾‍♂️

[@ianm1049]

I'm curious as to why the reviewer chose to compare digging in Enshrouded with ground leveling in Valheim?? Why not show digging in Val as well?

[@joshadams4425]

had the same thought

[@sonoftristram]

You meant what he did with the rake in Enshrouded? Might didn't know you can change the angle 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@davidcooke8005]

At a guest I'd say it's because he was paid by Iron Gate to try to paint Valheim in the best light. The bias is so thick it becomes unconvincing by the two minute mark.

[@kwahujakquai6726]

@@davidcooke8005 Or they have a personal bias that supports Valheim.

[@Rafaelrkg]

@@davidcooke8005 Why are Valheim's evasions rubbish?? (before I say I've never played, I have 800 hours on Steam)

[@AnaterZ]

I love both of these games and yes they are similar. I think the key difference is Enshrouded is more of an RPG and Valheim is more like an actual survivor game. I say this because Valheim really doesn't have "Quests". I think Enshrouded looks better visually but I wouldn't say that one is better than the other as a game.

[@Tjsmpsn]

Both of em give a good dopamine hit

[@bodid50]

Looks are nice, but looks ain't everything. Amiright?

[@PenetorcioFC]

Valheim has "Hildir quests" since moths, but not at the same level as Enshrouded.

[@dirge7459]

@@bodid50 What exactly are you getting at though?.

[@SWBGTOC]

The key difference is that Valheim has soul and Enshrouded doesn't

[@riteasrain]

Valheim is about an art style. It's a beautiful thing, the lighting, feel, emotion, and then the character creation - the fact they move their heads the direction you look using the mouse is an amazing thing to see.

[@Belgrimplays]

You forgot to rotate your rake, can be flat too, or angled. More ground shaping options

[@jonathanblanks5899]

Valheim you venture in the world, setting your own tasks and goals. Enshrouded your are always being told what to do next. I think I prefer Valheim for that reason.

[@masacar1193]

Ye plus enshrouded is like arcade valheim,the fighting is to quick in enshrouded,plus no raids on your base,making your base nothing more then decoration.

[@c1oudsky]

​​@@masacar1193 i HATE raids. I'd like to feel safe in my base without the need to worry about hordes of enemies breaking it all without my choice or even timer warning

[@masacar1193]

@@c1oudsky the feel of safeness has to be earned,by inventing the defence,you feel cozyer and better in the house while the enemy is outside but cant get to you.

[@c1oudsky]

@@masacar1193 i don't want enemies to come to me. I only want to face them when I myself feel ready to go to their biomes

[@masacar1193]

@@c1oudsky then your base is not a base,its decoration.

[@azraelita]

I just got Enshrouded and I think I gonna love to play it but nothing will ever compare to Valheim ❤

[@Lemeilleurcmoi]

But why peoples like valheim so much ? What is différent from other games ?

[@mscapeh4451]

They are shills​@@Lemeilleurcmoi

[@14fy21]

​@@Lemeilleurcmoi1. Valheim only 1.6 gb, 2. The worlds valheim is big asf 3. Valheim mechanic is good, 4. More challenging, 5. Not boring because you know what you will do after this and this, like u have porpose to kill boss1 get pickaxe, then use pickaxe for mining, kill boss2 u need to swamp key for next biome swam, after that kill boss3 u get detector for silver farm, kill boss4. And until boss 6.

[@Mastikator]

@@Lemeilleurcmoi For me Valheim has many layers of good qualities. In the beginning you are hunting animals, gathering resources and building a shack as a base of operations. The exploration gameplay is very strong. Soon you'll be mining ores and figuring out ways to transport the heavy rocks to your base, building roads to support your cart. Then you realize you need a boat to explore more islands, the boat functions as a cart and the journey is often very chill (until a sea monster attacks your boat). Over time you've constructed so many work stations, portals, furniture, storage chests that you realize you need more space, so you build a castle. Eventually you build your way up to magic, and it feels magical because it was hard won.

[@Kingrichard6th]

VALHEIM IS THE GOAT THE FEELIN YOU GET when you move from medows to dark forest and the music changes i shit my pants many times

[@joefries7046]

haha i agree. Valheim is great

[@AM-jx3zf]

And dungeon music is creepy asf

[@14fy21]

True

[@ThomasLogan-hq6gk]

Been playing Valheim for a couple of days now. One of the most unique experiences I’ve had in a game. The graphics bugged me for the first 5 minutes but then I realized it’s much much more about the mechanics and the style of the game. The water physics are pretty unreal and being Stuck in a storm at sea is exhilarating. If you love survival games id give this one a try. One of the best survival games I’ve played in a while.

[@szepi79]

I wouldn't have minded the graphics of valheim if it was better optimalised. but it only run okay-ish with a 1060 card, meaning: it was around 60FPS, meanwhile the same GPU provided the same amount of framerate for jedi fallen order, which is a much prettier game by magnitudes.

[@MassimoValenti-yu9vh]

can you play only with Friends? Alone I Guess Is boring?

[@bigdog1731]

@@szepi79I was getting a 40fos on a shit box laptop. Optimisation isn’t the issue here

[@szepi79]

@@bigdog1731 I got around 20 FPS on a formerly decent, but old laptop. (Asus ROG with 4th gen i7 CPU and nvidia 860M GPU) so yeah, it wasn't well optimized. but if you think that wasn't the issue, then could you elaborate on that?

[@The.Nasty.]

See, I love the old school look when they freshen it up and make it more modern… The particle effects and lighting added to the pixel textures really make Valheim pot. Animal Well on the switch does a similar thing, retro graphic style but they touch it up with modern effects and it’s a vibe.

[@luanleinh1447]

Haven't play Enshrouded yet, but I can feel the pace between these 2 games is just so different. From the video alone it makes me feel that Enshrouded tilts toward RPG more than actual survival game, while Valheim will make you rationing your resources, training your discipline to maintain your stamina so you don't screw up yourself, even the game forces you to do more exploration in different biomes because you always need something from somewhere even when in the endgame. The best of all, Valheim is like around 1GB for me to download, and it baffles me how such a good game with low fidelity can give me immense immersion while having a blast with friends. The best thing so far I've done with my friend is hauling a cart filled with precious ores while being chased by a horde of random monsters and we keep yelling at each other.

[@zh4210]

Valheim is more emotionally thrilling. Enshrouded felt pretty sterile and I wasn't connected to the world or the story at all. Also I thought the character model was weird. Am I a dawrf or something?

[@bamagrad99]

Dont get me wrong...Enshrouded is a good game which I recommend. However, for the reasons illustrated in this video, Enshrouded just made me miss Valheim and I am now playing that gain.

[@riteasrain]

well said :)

[@seamusthestout462]

i feel like valheim almost requires you to play with someone. just for all those funny moments

[@CoulierCuts]

@@seamusthestout462 I have hundreds of hours in Valheim solo and it is amazing

[@seamusthestout462]

@@CoulierCuts have you tried with other people tho?

[@BrineyBat]

With its style i like the way valheim looks more than enshroudeds realistic style it feels more unique

[@PaulCole-71]

I bought Enshrouded recently and it's good. Valheim is great. Valheim looks and feels rich and the weapons and interactions feel weighty and just right. Enshrouded looks washed out and feels wrong - building possibilities in Enshrouded are great but not as satisfying to do as Valheim.

[@SynnJynn]

I do miss the water and sailing in Valhiem

[@therealrog]

And Enshrouded farming ?

[@dreadous]

For the rake in enshrouded, you have to turn it 90 degrees. I don't know why it starts off vertical. Hopefully, it will be fixed before release.

[@sammyshehole]

I think Valheim just has much more substance and feels more like a complete game. The bosses in Valheim are vastly superior. Game progression is also superior. Every new weapon you get feels like a big deal, like getting a new sword in a Zelda game. It’s got that type of feel to it. Whereas in Enshrouded, it’s just like “oh cool. A new weapon.” Valheim also feels more dangerous and challenging. Enshrouded might look flashier and it does have really good building but in my opinion, the building is the best thing it has to offer and that’s not enough for me. Valheim is the better complete package.

[@mrhoach2229]

Love them both. Valheim has more of a sense of danger and meaning to base building though. Yeah after I place some natural walls and maybe a moat around my base the enemies can't reach me... but at least they try and some threat exists that has to be dealt with. With Enshrouded it's fun to build a base but it's only for storage/spawn and not defense in anyway. 45 degree angles would be nice as well, 90 degrees is all you get in Enshrouded. The other big difference for me (I am talking vanilla only) is how punishing dying in Valhiem is compared to Enshrouded. If I don't keep a backup set of gear I am going to potentially have to pull off some real bullshit to get my stuff back. With Enshrouded my "critical" items like armour and weapons are retained after death, so retrieving that body is not the alt+f4 inducing experience Valheim can bring.

[@babstra55]

I never build moats in valheim because of that anymore. it's just more fun when the mobs can get in.

[@RParis-ov2rq]

Enshrouded has a default setting of snapping. It is on a 2x2 grid. Turn it off and you can build anything in any way, working with as little as a 1x1 block. You can repair and rebuild any structure in the game. I recommend watching a couple videos on building in enshrouded. It can do everything Valheim can, except build off the 90-degree plane, and also offers more. Unfortunately, the game doesn't tell you much in terms of building and repairing and leaves many players lacking in the fundamentals.

[@sanjayw9878]

keep in mind, enshrouded isnt out yet and will have options for difficulty later and they are considering ways for enemies to attack bases or near it on the website for voting. everyone is comparing a game already released over years of work to a game that came out less than 2 months ago that announced its not done but it is currently playable

[@babstra55]

@@sanjayw9878valheim is early access just like enshrouded. there's still at least a complete biome waiting to be done.

[@arenndups5294]

​@@babstra55hasnt valheim been in that state longer though. I say let Enshrouded cook. It may even surpass it some day. Who knows.

[@3DuArt-08]

for me enshrouded doesn't "feel" better than valheim. The graphics don't even matter that much, sometimes less is more.

[@GáborOrosz-y1l]

well valheim sure has less content so you got your wish there my man :D

[@dreten000]

@@GáborOrosz-y1l in what world does valheim have less content. I finished enshrouded in 30 hours. valheim 100+ hours easily

[@GáborOrosz-y1l]

@@dreten000 in any world my man, valheim has less content. 100 hours coz you need to grind the same #&@ for 90 is not content its a chore.

[@dreten000]

@@GáborOrosz-y1l more mob variety, more bosses, more biomes, biomes that are actually different instead of a reskin. Enshrouded gets stale fast. Auto targetting, poi's are just reskins through the whole game, just hack and slash, no sense of progression. 0 thrill. Weird rng system for chestloot. Parts of Enshrouded are litteraly inspired by valheim for a reason.

[@GáborOrosz-y1l]

@@dreten000 it does have more biomes but mob variey is lower by a lot youre wrong on that , the terrain deformation is garbage in valheim, building system is terrible, graphics are dog#&, the combat system is a joke, physics are realy bad, animations are pre PS 1 era visual FXare bad, sound design is subpar. so.. ye no thanks.

[@Swayde1994]

First time I played Valheim I felt like I was in a sandbox version of RuneScape and I loved it so much.

[@66sinead]

I love both games. Since Enshrouded is more quest based, they are kind of an apples and oranges comparison.

[@derpderpin1568]

Uhh no, they're literally competing in the exact same space. Calling Enshrouded 'quest based' is like saying Starfield is a deep RPG akin to Baldurs Gate. Neither Enshrouded nor Valheim has much of anything going on there. Same exact competing space.

[@br5073]

@@derpderpin1568Baldurs gate is shit 😂

[@StefanVasic-fq6vr]

why are yo usaying that?@@br5073

[@AnaterZ]

Disagree. When you open the map on each game, Valheim has only a few icons on the map. The enshrouded icons overlap each other. Valheim is less "structured" and maybe allows more freedom. Enshrouded is more quest based for sure though. @@derpderpin1568

[@atnfn]

​@@derpderpin1568That's not true. Enshrouded does have quests, have you even played the game? The quests are more like mmo (wow) quality fetch quests though. Been a while since I played Valheim but I can't remember any quests. I didn't get that far in Valheim, other games got my attention so I quit. Enshrouded at least has quests from the very beginning.

[@mughug9616]

Love some of the posts where one HAS to be better then the other game, like it is a competition. Maybe less pointless bickering and think of the benifit of having the option of both games to enjoy. With all the crap out there, we have at least two decent games to chose from.

[@sonoftristram]

💯

[@SWBGTOC]

One IS better than the other

[@mughug9616]

@@SWBGTOC That was a struggle.

[@sonoftristram]

@@SWBGTOC subjectively yes but that's about it 😉

[@BillySundown]

it is a competition in terms of only 1 product can occupy your time at once. I think replay value matters the most. So far Valheim takes it. But with time, maybe valheim will never be optomized and Enshrouded will find more ways to be infinitely replayable with mods and servers like how Valheim is currently. Enshrouded is considerd better based on numbers. More players currently playing and higher 24hr peak in such a short time from release. In time it will pass the all time peak possibly

[@m00nmanners]

Gah, I love Valheim. It was Covid, I was bored...i ate many mushrooms, blasted some Wardruna, thats a band, song Helvegen, and traveled to the Limbo realm of Valhalla. I slayed forest demons and trolls, I built a fortress where I could trip in peace while I gathered my bearings. I then traversed an alien landscape, conquering sea dragons, swamp things, and blizzard glitches. I joined Warduna, chanting something lost. My room mate told me to stfu, it's 3am. I said cool. Compromise is key. I put on some Uhtred the son of Uhtred and called it a night.

[@_tojifushiguro_]

Valheim best game 2021

[@denisvarga2794]

*best survival game of 2021

[@psevdonim481]

Still in early access, huh

[@michaelvial125]

@@psevdonim481 early access just means devs are updating and adding new content before launching game complete and then optimisation,where as Valheim requires no optimisation and content is always been added and improved. This compared to some of the trash games that come out now by big studios that are crap and run like its been released on Atari( old game console form the 80's).

[@thealpha3270]

@@michaelvial125 after the ashlands game will end right?

[@mathijsw3743]

​@@thealpha3270no, they planning to add content on sea aswell since not much to do there except sailing to another part

[@McKernel]

Man I just discover this channel and its so refreshing to watch a video thats not stuffed with all talks and music and sound effect. Its so chill.

[@mayumitmarikit]

to this day, i really can't find any other survival game that gives me the satisfaction and impact of valheim! i love the house building the most, i love the secured feeling when you're inside the house, being able to repair the house inside while the monsters are knockin at your door LOL . the threat feeling you have while venturing further from your house and out on the vast ocean. just the big waves alone freak me out when i get caught in a storm on the open seas. i stopped playing the game because i want to play it when the full version comes out. it's the best game for me

[@commanderblood2147]

When I see these two games compared, it gives me the impression that Valheim went for something that was going to be iconic and original while Enshrouded did not. Theres just so much more love you can feel that the developers put into Valheim. With Enshrouded, it looks to me like a knock off of valheim. They must of thought, "We are going to make things bigger and better with better graphics and gameplay/mechanics" BUT they forgot the "Why"... The Valheim devs made something they wanted to play. Not what they think everyone else does. Its not just something you have to show through a video, but what you have to experience for yourself.

[@ВалерийВинокуров-щ3о]

Согласен. Вальхейм вызывает эмоции, увлекает. И динамика игры не отпускает.

[@shathaan1763]

One of the best survival games VS a game I have never heard about lol

[@coldsun1187]

While there are interesting similarities and comparisons to be made, Valheim has more replayability hands-down. This is because Enshrouded's map is not randomly generated and after you have finished the game, it is just the same map again if you want to do it again.

[@sonoftristram]

It's just the different biomes and boss locations being in different places but other than that Valheims worlds feel pretty much the same every time simply because the world gen isn't that exciting. Mistlands are a nightmare to traverse but biomes are pretty much the same in every run. Love Valheim but I prefer a well made handcrafted map that filled with interesting locations than a randomly generated one that always feels the same.

[@Sin_Alder]

I'd argue that it hampers Valheim's replayability. All a randomly generated map means is a bland map devoid of personality. Procedural generation is nowhere near powerful enough yet to make particularly interesting maps in most cases, and it certainly applies to Valheim. It might help for game where you're expecting to play short runs over and over again, such as roguelikes (for example, Binding of Isaac or Slay the Spire), but it works against games like Valheim, where the expectation, generally speaking, is to spend longer on a single playthrough, with possible later playthroughs for people once they eventually get bored with where they were in the game. More variety is not even remotely similar to more quality. For some gameplay loops more variety, regardless of quality, is the lifeblood, but for open world survival games (particularly one where you can either respawn or are likely to survive for long periods of time), quality becomes far more important.

[@bebopsynthguy6629]

The progression in enshrouded just can’t compare.. it has the Diablo style loot progression where you get a dozen versions of the exact same visual item just with a purple or orange background indicating its rarity. In my opinion this is the most unsatisfying and braindead styles of loot systems. When I craft a bronze sword from the bronze I mined it feels like an unlock. It masterfully ties the survival gathering with gear and loot progression. Enshrouded fails to capture this in the same way. I really think that if you are a huge valheim fan, enshrouded is going to disappoint.

[@theworldisyours4495]

I started Valheim like a year ago and founded so tedious to get resources and all of a sudden I get killed and lose everything. Founded so hard to get all that back. But I never gave up I just killed the first boss and got so excited, then I killed my first troll right after that and right after I just tamed my firs wolf all of these in the same day. It was supper rewarding. Now I feel like I need to finish it !!

[@tcaprecap1448]

That’s the joy of Valheim! You really feel like success is earned because of the difficulty & high stakes of dying. I’ll say this…whichever weapon you’re using is going to be WAY more effective if you have a high skill level for that weapon. Dying makes you lose skill points & if you lose track of them, you can find yourself with better gear that’s barely more effective because you lost all your skill points getting the better weapons.

[@Graybeard_]

1,500 hours in Valheim 300 hours in Enshrouded Love both Enshrouded is a better fit for me overall

[@sonoftristram]

I feel so too. Valheim is great but Enshrouded has everything I always missed on Valheim.

[@lestamon6950]

@@sonoftristram like what ? Does Enshrouded have NPC companions ? like in Palworld. ( I don't like Palwords goofy ass NPC's )

[@sonoftristram]

​@@lestamon6950far less tedious resource farming, quests, very smooth gameplay, a very well designed map, a skill system, much more build options and overall a whole lot mire content. No actual NPC companions, it's nothing like Palworld at all 😂 Valheim is a great survival game but I prefer the mix with adventure and RPG elements like Enshrouded has. World is only 25% the size of what we'll get on full release..

[@seamusthestout462]

@@sonoftristram i feel thet quests, and class systems, etc stray to far away from the survival esq theme of valheim and more into a RPG. especially with builds having no threats, like weather, raids, and such. aswell as enshrouded being the same all the time and knowing where everything is at all times being to repetitive.

[@sonoftristram]

@@seamusthestout462 yeah because Enshrouded is more RPG than survival. It's an RPG with survival influence and that's pretty much what even the devs themselves say about it. I like a fix handcrafted world over procedurally generated worlds. Valheim feel way more repetitive to me tbh. To Me Enshrouded has the better exploration, better movement, looks more appealing to me, has the much better build system and better combat. All just my subjective opinions here. Valheim is a great game that's never been a question here, I just like Enshrouded more.

[@sweatyeti]

Thanks for showcasing both side by side!

[@dubbstompp]

I wouldnt have tried Valheim if I hadn't tried Enshrouded, love them both

[@Klyareskalaziom]

So true

[@makkura9245]

Both are amazing titles, Enshrouded is a Skyrim x Minecraft mix Valheim is a Runescape x Minecraft mix. They have their own highs and lows and both are very much so worth playing through. One thing I will say is that Valheim has a stronger identity as a product, the many updates Enshrouded got did help, but it still struggles to create memorable experiences.

[@truthorpropaganda9001]

10:23 you mean in Enshrouded the arrows disappear...

[@Cody-f5h9w]

No…

[@truthorpropaganda9001]

@@Cody-f5h9w ahh, my bad.

[@M3galodon]

Enshrouded's graphics are objectively better. Valheim's graphics are subjectively better, hence Valheim's graphics are better. There's something about these photorealistic graphics and gamey mechanics of gathering, building et al that break the 4th wall. So in the end, photorealistic graphics end up being a net negative.

[@Fenris8800]

Very well :D Dont wanna blame Enshrouded but once U have played Valheim you may will miss features in other survivals: Cutting trees They can kill you, u can influence which direction the tree will fall and u have to cut the tree trunk in small pieces.😊 Building They physics make pillars etc necessary and its not just a nice Feature for the eye only. And u need to take care of smoke If u have the fire pit/chimney etc inside ur house. Weather: It makes U feel so comfy to sit in ur place while its stormy outside. Sounds and music changes if u are in a building (comfy Zone) or outside. Yeah some other games are well too but Valheim makes it soo good :3

[@bartomolev6682]

When the world is so dangerous and even the weather is out to get you, these short moments in your base/village feel so much more comfy.

[@kayleemeyer2830]

I like how in Valheim you can hit the ground near a stand of those small trees with a sledgehammer and it breaks them all down at once. Very satisfying

[@Mantelar]

Valheim made me feel like I was in a Norse Saga, or trapped in a dream scape. Real in all the right ways. Really fantastic art direction. Second game looks neat, but as photorealistic graphics become standard, people will get bored and crave something alien, even if it’s passed through a sort of filter.

[@jersonvillanueva2533]

valheim with only 2 GB of storage true chad

[@Zedman3333]

i lost 1500 hours of my life in valheim , ima gonna say valhiem for sure is better, as far as pushing out content a decent pace, valheim looses for sure....

[@ThePumpkin2King]

Valheim is one of the best games for multiple reasons and one of those is that it has a good pace for new content. Unlike most games nowadays that rush it so they can fill their greedy little pockets and to make little impatient gamer goblins happy. You must understand the dev team for valheim isn’t huge and these are people who actually care about what they’re making and perfecting it rather than throwing it out there to make a quick buck.

[@Zedman3333]

@@ThePumpkin2King yes, I WAS going to add (before you flame me ) exactly what you said regarding the small team they are not rushing to put out shit content , I get it ….im just talking from a content drought point of view.

[@cbes13]

@@ThePumpkin2Kingmodders have completed the game before the devs did 😢. 2 yeas for one biome. Dang

[@ThePumpkin2King]

@@cbes13 yk those people have lives outside of being developers and aren’t little gremlins hunched in a cave grinding away at a mod for a game with out making the slightest contact with the light of day and touching a singular blade of grass. The modders just added what they thought it would be but didn’t take into account all the details like lore and story building. You got that kiddo.

[@cbes13]

@@ThePumpkin2King Nah, they didnt use the money to hire more developers and employees, games with less success have done that but valheims devs did not. White knight incomingggg. You talk about story building like the story in that game is so dang complicated lmao

[@socketman]

Enshrouded is great, but I think my heart still belongs to Valheim

[@Santoroz]

You are not comparing much of Enshrouded past very early game, nor all the options of doing things like cooking, or mining ore. These are both great games, in different and similar ways at times. Both open worlds, but Enshrouded is a crafted world that is more fleshed out with rpg elements. Valheim procedurally generated is random, but empty of unique locations, numerous npc, story missions, and crafted locations. Valheim big loss is it's taking over 18 months for 1 biome. I hope Enshrouded doesn't do the same thing because I look forward to updates for it. They are different games in regard to multiplayer also. People need to stop thinking Enshrouded should be the same and realize it's a CO-OP multiplayer design. It's not open PVP like Conan. The story is you are the survivors trying to rebuild. It's not exiled criminals like Conan, or Valheim's prove yourself worthy individually story. It's a co-op adventure in a sandbox filled with themepark quests. Enshrouded uses it's own game engine, which is impressive. I give them points on that. Valheim wins on trees falling on heads though. If that's your focus, I can't argue with that. The shroud is better than how Mistlands is though. That Mist is annoying in Mistlands. I feel the shroud mist is a better balance.

[@ralfgartner7549]

Ah und die Harke zum fläche ebnen kann man in Enshrouded mit R gedrückt halten und mausrad rotieren damit man sie sinvoll benutzen kann. wirkt so als würdest du absichtlich einen asymetrischen vergleich machen wollen.

[@hncreaciones2611]

IMPOSIBLE, Enshrouded carece de contenido ante Valheim, iniciando con las peleas en mar abierto. Valheim es una obra maestra.

[@spanc12]

Both? Both. Both. Both is good.

[@toniocandle5001]

Valheim a un je ne sais quoi qui le rend très attachant. Sa mécanique et ses ressources sont bien moins nombreuses que sur Enshrouded, qui est vertigineux en terme de craft (stuff, mobiliers etc...) de possibilités de construction, d'élevage et de culture, et son design est plus personnalisé avec des zones ou panorama à couper le souffle, très différentes les unes des autres, travaillées à la main, alors que Valheim peut offrir un monde plus vaste mais sans trop de surprise car tout est un peu copié collé avec le procédural... les cryptes, les constructions. J'en suis à près de 300h de jeu sur enshrouded, encore loin de Valheim, mais j'y prends beaucoup de plaisir. La où enshrouded peche le plus part rapport à Valheim, ce sont les ennemis qui sont nombreux à se répéter d'un biome à l'autre, alors que Valheim possède un bestiaire pour chacun...Egalement, Enshrouded est bien sûr plus chill et moins punitif et ça généra sans doute les joueurs hardcore (y compris sur les constructions :D). Mais bon, pour un vétéran comme moi ça me va bien perso :) Partir en bâteau, avec sa b*** et son couteau, pour aller récupérer son stuff dans les plaines, poursuivi par un moustique enragé, sous les rires sadiques des gobelins, c'est trop de stress et c'est plus de mon âge!

[@ostrichnails]

Level of immersion in Valheim is this far the best out of any game. Enshrouded is a very pretty game but the body types are kind of weird also the jumping animation is not great lol. Moving in Valheim feels natural and the thrill of entering a new zone is unbeatable. Thank you for the video!

[@captainjimo]

The comparison is very flawed in 2 places. First - rock mining. In enshrouded the video shows digging ground and not breaking standalone rocks. Second - flattering ground. The rake in enshrouded is rotated vertically instead of horizontally

[@redspectrenine9632]

I like mining better in Enshrouded. Cutting trees is better in Valheim. The flattening of earth was unfair, that can be corrected in Enshrouded but agree the tool shouldn't default like that. Progression to cook multiple foods comes way too late in Enshrouded, cooking pot should be allowed way earlier. Maybe limit recipes until one progresses. Dungeons in Enshrouded are weird, but I also view the Shroud Wells as dungeons. Items not dropping on the ground from enemies I'm on the fence about, I know entities on the ground can add up to slow a game down, and Enshrouded already has performance issues.

[@michaelvial125]

food cooking to late? game is only 25% complete..end game stage will eventually be level 100.

[@redspectrenine9632]

@@michaelvial125 You can cook multiple items at the very start of Valheim. In Enshouded, its a chore until you get the cooking pot. Cooking multiple foods at once, or a stack of a single food source at once should be available at the very start. For newer players I can see that mechanic being incredibly annoying especially with stamina being a vital part of gameplay.

[@sonoftristram]

​@@redspectrenine9632while I agree that the cooking pot could be available a bit earlier I can't see it being a chore early on since food buffs last longer in Enshrouded and stam as well as stam reg comes from gear, fluids and sweets that you don't have to cook and same with stat boosts + you get permanent stat increases including health and stamina from the Skilltreue while in Valheim you're nothing without the right food. Just cook a hand full pieces of meat when you're at your base and you're good to go. Cooking up entire stacks of food is by no means any necessary. I never spent longer than a few minutes to prep food for several in game days

[@lumpek4149]

i played both and need to say both are very good in their own ways :D But for me, a little bit better is Enshrouded and it only have about 25% of map in 2025 there will release date of Enshrouded

[@fakiirification]

Valheim is better in just about every way, plus its been in development longer so has more content. Also you cant compare the textures, as there is nothing to compare. valheim is stylized low poly pixel art. enshrouded is uncanny valley too-realistic graphics.

[@nawack2774]

“In about every way” I disagree. But obviously it's subjective. Personally I find Enshrouded better in terms of building and terraforming, I also prefer the map and exploration, the interfaces, the combat, and probably other things that I forget or that I haven't seen because I haven't played enough yet. I find Valheim more boring overall

[@monalisa5390]

Couldn't play Valheim for more than 10 hours. Textures suck. They put little effort in them. No thanks.

[@sonoftristram]

More content in Valheim ? Yeah sure...

[@Lemeilleurcmoi]

Peoples destroyed you they dont agree with you

[@bartomolev6682]

​@@nawack2774and i find the exact opposite (except terraforming, ye enshrouded has good terraforming) let's just all agree that people have different tastes and opinions

[@Bildzauberin]

Ich fand Enshrouded nach 3 Tagen langweilig und bin wieder zu Valheim gegangen.

[@rext3404]

I can dig through a mountain in enshrouded. Automatically better. Jokes aside, both games are great and I have many hours is both. Valheim building takes more ingenuity and you really have to pay attention to structural integrity. Better snapping too, imo. I do love how enshrouded voxels work when building, though. Graphics aren't everything, but enshrouded does look better. Valheim has a weight system, something I can't stand. Sailing was awesome in Valheim. Hopefully enshrouded get mounts of something one day since water doesn't seem to exist unless you have a well. I honestly have to give the edge to enshrouded. It has quests, a more fleshed out story (with more to come I"m sure) and an RPG element. The map looks to only be a 1/3 complete as well. Many places you cannot enter yet. If the devs for enshrouded keep adding to the game it will be second to none.

[@retrodog34_80]

I played both, with major hours in Valheim and over 80+ in Enshrouded... Valheim feels like if i die its got consequences... Enshrouded i lose what time and some resources? thats the big difference... there is not consequences in the game. looks nice but thats it when all said and done

[@venchergaming]

Valheim--created by 5 people, originally developed by one person. now called Iron Gate studio, which only has 10 people total and founded in 2019. Enshrouded--developed by Keen Games, which has 45-50 people and was founded in 2005. comparing these games without any of that context seems disingenuous, and a pointless exercise.

[@Myownchanelhere]

I actually really enjoy the pixilated graphics of valheim. I wish there was better sound tracks in valheim. But, I absolutely love valheim.

[@Antonskii]

I just posted my first Valheim video ever, if you could let me know what you think about it I would highly appreciate it, any feedback is welcome!

[@DummyThinksThoughts]

valheim is one of the best games in 2 decades , what is this conversation even for .. enshrouded ain't that game bruh.. it isn't bad but it isn't replacing valheim

[@sonoftristram]

Good because I doesn't want to replace Valheim, they're simply too different. Wanna play an action adventure/RPG play Enshrouded but if you want to play a survival light with outstanding atmosphere then Valheim is the best choice. I play and love both games.

[@DummyThinksThoughts]

​@@sonoftristram if they are so different then why compare them in this way ? This wasn't a comparison of how different they are as a type of game like you just claim , this was a side by side comparison of the exact same actions in each game . Which also begs to question if they aren't trying to be the same thing why do they have all these actions and features in common ?

[@sonoftristram]

@@DummyThinksThoughts because people like these actions which aren't invented by Valheim btw 😉 What are you even arguing about ? You played both or just judge by impressions you get here on KZbin ?

[@DummyThinksThoughts]

@@sonoftristram I'm not the one arguing you goober , you came at me in a reply to my comment . You are the one arguing . My point stands

[@babstra55]

I was just thinking the same, and making a list in my mind with: 1) valheim, 2) outward, 3) kenshi. all sort of indie underdog games that just stand a head or two taller than competition.

[@ItaloBarbiero]

1:03 This person doesn't know the difference between digging elevated terrain and breaking rocks.

[@LeoGets-tf8hs]

Missed one of Valheims best features, water and water travel. Also didn't see varied biomes in enshrouded... I haven't played it though

[@derpderpin1568]

Valheim doesn't do water well though. The swimming system is really bad. There's one monster in the water. The boats feel very very unrewarding, especially the final one. Water has no physics at all and only exists on one same height plane for the entire planet. It's really not good in any way.

[@SB-gy2vx]

there are different biomes

[@DrowsieDumbo]

In Enshrouded you have the desert biome, a volcanic / red-sand biome, a standard green meadow where you start at and some deeper green marsh / swamp areas. I enjoyed the biome variety, hoping they add snow and mountain, plus maybe oceanic to the major content update whenever it arrives.

[@michaelvial125]

@@DrowsieDumbo enshrouded has no water, and the map is an island on a sea..its just all turned to red shroud as has all the water, an hence is the sole reason you have been awakened as the flamborne ,to return the land back to what it was.

[@MISTAWULFY]

The one thing I liked better about Valheim was the tree physics. Having them fall with such weight and impact felt satisfying

[@mughug9616]

That tree chopping did it for me. How can anyone buy the other game when you can chop trees looking so cool and the physics are so hot.

[@outlander7370]

I bought both games lol because valheim devs are taking their sweet ass time to add another biome.

[@davidcooke8005]

If you are really asking, it's because you will need to chop down 250 trees to build your base in Valheim, and about 25 in Enshrouded. You will be really effin sick and tired of chopping trees in Valheim. The grind is a poor substitute for actual content, which Enshrouded is packed with.

[@riteasrain]

@@davidcooke8005On the other hand, you have World Modifiers which allow 2x/3x etc the mats collection, plus if you want you can "devcommands" and build without any cost whatsoever. Avoid the grind and play in peace if you want.

[@007ptb007]

I agree really miss that tree falling mechanic, some people hate it but it was a highlight for me. Wish Enshrouded used it.

[@007ptb007]

@@davidcooke8005 in our play through we kinda setup a wood farming technique accidentally on purpose, I think we left wolves near a grey spawner and a portal nearby, everytime we went back there was more than enough wood, also for other wood i think we kept spawning a boss and let him take them down, we just hid behind them

[@tonklanasok3206]

I’ve never played Enshrouded before, but what I love most about Valheim are the memories of doing silly things with my friends. For example, after we defeated the second boss, we decided to explore the map by boat. The first new biome we discovered was the Plains. At the time, we didn’t realize the game required a step-by-step approach. I thought, 'Wow, this biome is beautiful!'-and then I got one-shot by a mosquito. My two friends tried to run, but they ended up dying too. We laughed so hard, especially after dying four more times trying to retrieve our corpses. Moments like these make us laugh every time we think about them, and not many games can create that kind of experience.

[@adamdavidsoddities8573]

I have not played enshrouded yet. Ive put a couple hundred hours in Valheim and loved it. It looks like Enshrouded needs a bit more time to bake.

[@dragonlord4643]

you should def. try it, tho i've invested a coupled of hundreds hours in Valheim and reaching my first hundred in Enshrouded soon, both games play completly diffrently but are an amazing experience in their own ways, yes Valheim got water and water traveling but in Enshrouded you can fly which makes traveling much more fun than in Valheim, because in Valheim sea traveling is slow. In Enshrouded you are far more mobile. I dont think its right to compare them as a contest, they are both amazing games. And since Valheim is in EA since '21 and Enshrouded just came in EA and got as much or even more content than Valheim does at this stage, i think thats noticeable too.

[@adamdavidsoddities8573]

@dragonlord4643 cool, it will Inevitably happen. I like to play these games with my dad or daughter or both. Right now looking at doing Sons Of The Forest next. After that, it will likely be Enshrouded.

[@fastertove]

Please don't write "EA", you are scaring people.

[@sanjayw9878]

the game isnt even done and people are comparing it to a game that was in the works for years, they literally said it isnt done. I play both and never understood why people think getting one of something means you are against getting another of something. I had a lot of fun with enshrouded it has a similar feel but they are different games

[@adamdavidsoddities8573]

@sanjayw9878 the one thing I wish valheim has is a magic system. I hear enshrouded has one. I'm excited about that.

[@KaligarPrimus]

Valheim will always be a great game, some of the comparisons made Valheim the star others Enshrouded. The thing I like about both of them is the differences and they are not knockoffs of another game. Valheim is unique so that is runs on lower end computers and also has multiplayer dedicated servers. Games that just have co-op in my opinion are not great. I prefer multiplayer and Valheim fill that niche. Enshrouded has just come out so developing it to release will be an interesting journey. I also have Nightingale to play with as well. 2024 is going to be real good.

[@elex2170]

Valheim is far far superior than Enshrouded! I won't mention everything but the biggest part of it is the amount of hand holding they give you in Enshrouded. Those definitely take out a lot of fun from a survival crafting game. Another is the lack of certain physics like having ventilation for smoke. Lastly, you don't really need to take care of your home in Enshrouded because it will never be in danger of attacks. Enshrouded is 90% typical RPG and 10% survival crafting.

[@thewatcher611]

I don't know much about Enshrouded, but I've got almost 1000 hrs in Valheim. It's immersion is what really keeps me in it. I wish the devs had new big updates more than every few years.....But they suffice for giving me a reason to play it every now and again. It's a grind, but that's part of it, too.

[@Vejita12]

RPG. ROLE playing game. What roles can you play in Enshrouded?

[@Elidrys]

Valheim was wonderful for the Viking experience. One thing that's funny is the character models were built human sized where it feels like Enshrouded the character models are shorter like Dwarves. Other than that it seems more visually beautiful, but also gamier, like things are streamlined to be a better game feeling, and less hardcore.

[@korrigan6072]

I played both, both are different, Valheim is procedural while Enshrouded has a carefully handcrafted world. I personally prefer Enshrouded.

[@AbhayPrasada]

Valheim is such a great game!

[@therealrog]

After the latest updates, the only thing to say for Enshrouded is wow! i played both 100 hours min, this is the survival mechanics of 10 years from now bat wing, zipline and more.What I remember about a mission is that we couldn't find a place to enter so we started digging and after minutes we entered one of the mission rooms and this was not the only entry point to this room? farming,building,skill tree,fight mechanics,open world full of content and flex character build. I think Valheim is better atmoshpere like sounds and weather but Enshrouded is completely survival co-op game ever seen.

[@paweroman2512]

I Love Valheim ❤

[@Lemeilleurcmoi]

You love him for no reason

[@ormenlange100]

valheim is superior for me but enshrouded have alot of quality of life imporvements but valheim in my

[@anton7709]

Acho que Valheim vence por causa de 1 GB

[@sanjayw9878]

Lol the video from the start was biased, you could see that from the text. I bought both games and love em. Idk why people draw lines and act like you can only play a single game there are so many games like this and I play em all

[@Blakkrazor69]

Enshrouded is like....Valheim-lite. It's decent but for a "better" experience I'd recommend Valheim for a variety of reasons. Not that Enshrouded isn't enjoyable, but it is also so very small in terms of world size and takes far fewer hours to 100% than Valheim.

[@МихаилВасильев-п3щ]

пзц ты видеоряд поставил для боевки и строительства из интересного, в эншрауде можно тонели делать, а там как в вальхейме можно ставить что-то во что-то только под другим углом? устойчивость разных типов материалов? максимальная высота стройки? если ставить огонь в доме у дыма есть физика в эншрауде? есть куча видосов где народ делится всяким для украшения боевку, конечно, тоже показал мое увожение закликал пару мобов, збс демонстация а где доджи, блоки/парри на норм примерах? разное оружие, разные мувсеты, да даже тот же спец удар на тему прэколов смерти от деревьев: поведения деревьев при огне рядом/горении/факеле не совсем понял прикол сравнения младшего рядового графоуни со старшим сержантом

[@paganizertube]

Both good games. Valheim wins on atmosphere and replayability though. Enshrouded 70 hours, Valheim 700 hours.

[@Tempest19901]

Valheim has been my favorite game over last 2 years. Really the only video game I play. The gameplay is perfectly balanced in my opinion. Gotta be smart anf patient to advance. You decide when you want to risk the next biome...which is always a huge step and and exciting change of scenery and challenges. The sea is awesome. Just entered the plains and it seems fun. The swamp was so difficult at first!

[@AUTO6]

Valheim - better game physics, better lighting, better exploration, every time you can play on different map (procedural generation) Enshrouded - better graphics, a more diverse world, bigger game, handmade, so a more polished map of the world, better development prospects for the game in the future I think Enshrouded is better game but Valheim is still great game worth to play and without Valheim we won't have Enshrouded because in many aspects this game based on Valheim mechanics.

[@sonoftristram]

I agree except for the mechanics part because Valheim didn't invent any of these mechanics. It did a great job in combining them but there's pretty much nothing that didn't exist before.

[@seamusthestout462]

a problem with valheim is that they didnt have there price set high enough. this meant less financial space for them to make updates. though i do prefer valheim over enshrouded

[@sonoftristram]

@@seamusthestout462 absolutely doesn't matter. Valheim sold more than enough to be financially save for a while. It's just that they prefer to stay small and work on it in their own pace rather than putting more effort into it to provide a more frequent update flow.

[@Maxx13333]

Valheim hands down cause you can mod it.

[@davidcooke8005]

Enshrouded, because you don't really need to.

[@wtfert217]

I'm a veteran in gaming and I have to say that this masterpiece is in my top 5. The game can be really difficult, but the atmosphere and the relaxing effect it has on you is incredibly immersive and calming. And the best example that graphics aren't everything.

[@CRKPXL]

Valheim feels like a new Game. Enshrouded feels like some Assets. Even tho Enshrouded is great it still has this kinda feel to it. Maybe you know what i mean.

[@Spotcats]

I have both games. However, my PC couldn't play Enshrouded. I tried to get a refund, but I spent longer then 2 hours trying to get it to work and Steam said no. Valheim runs like a top. Fun game. xD

[@Survivor_88]

also when hunting in Valheim you need to be aware of which direction the wind is blowing as the animals will smell you coming.. just wish they'd do a complete graphics rehaul

[@eamh2002]

Wait.. Is that a thing too in Valheim? I think I noticed wolves being very unaware of me at times and sometimes coming at me from "out of nowhere" while I dont see them anywhere 😱

[@aguaperrodin889]

Personally I think Valheim found the perfect middle ground of being detailed enough to immerse you in the atmosphere, but staying far enough away from realism that instead your imagination fills in the details better than they could have been rendered 😊

[@a_pirate1434]

I personally really like Valheim's visuals. So many games try for hyper-realism, it seems kinda drab and dull after a while (and as cool as super-detailed textures are, it can look kinda wrong when the lighting can't match the detail and give depth to it). Makes me really appreciate a stylized look

[@sergeyignatenkov6595]

Valheim is like a saga, Enshrouded just like a fary tale

[@MrSharp740]

Valheim IS the better of two is you ask me

[@krakenroadkill2988]

Enshrouded got me into Valheim.

[@babstra55]

I'm kinda surprised, but it seems everything is better in valheim except digging and the UI look. even the higher resolution textures look somehow tacky compared to valheims pixelated yet weirdly super realistic look.

[@a_pirate1434]

Agreed! So many games go for as detailed of textures as possible (regardless of whether the lighting can match it to make it feel real) while Valheim is very deliberately stylized, and feels so much more immersive without realistic textures

[@dmccreativestudio8761]

In terms of graphics, it's no competition that Enshrouded is the winner. What's good about Valheim is its low demand with the system requirements which is favorable to many. They have their fare share of PROS and CONS but overall both are great! Currently playing Enshrouded since Valheim is falling behind on the new updates but me and my friends are going back to the Viking life in a heartbeat if they pump up on the updates.

[@a_pirate1434]

Detailed textures does not always mean better graphics imo. Valheim is very stylized, and imo sticks out from all the realism-via-textures visuals that are everywhere. Not that one's objectively better than the other, but personally I don't find attempts at photorealism to always be the most immersive or enjoyable (and certainly not very unique.)

[@theperfectbeing]

@@a_pirate1434 dude it's simply better by every single metric. Particle density, volumetric lighting, fog effects, weather effects, view distance, etc. It's simply a better graphics engine. You can argue style but you can't argue actual graphical quality

[@NukEverything]

A comparison from the perspective of this video its fan based: Valheim, now 5 years old, still lacks substantial content, while Enshrouded, despite being just 1 year old, already boasts more. Let’s discuss what was highlighted in this video. We saw Valheim’s best features, which make up 98% of the game, with only 1% focused on ship and water mechanics and another 1% on bosses. The combat in Valheim often boils down to spamming mouse1 to attack or simply shooting arrows - not exactly fun gameplay. Now, let’s talk about what you’ll spend most of your time doing in Valheim: crafting a cart and mining ore all day - so entertaining! You mine for hours just to one-shot a boss. Without mining, progressing in the game is nearly impossible, making the gameplay feel like 99% mining and 1% actual play. In contrast, Enshrouded offers superior graphics, combat, building mechanics, and overall content. Valheim fans with low-end PCs might experience Enshrouded at 15 fps and compare it unfavorably to Valheim’s simplistic graphics, which even lower-tier potatoes can handle. This has led some to defend Valheim simply because it’s accessible for potato setups, even if it lacks stuff. When people talk about replayability in Valheim, it’s almost laughable. Creating a new save just means ores and water are in different spots, but with the same repetitive mobs and the same lifeless green biome - an experience suited for those satisfied with basic graphics capabilities. Meanwhile, Enshrouded introduces major updates every 2-3 months, adding new biomes and making the world feel more alive with pets, animals, and NPCs. This steady pace of development keeps the game fresh, ensuring the world feels vibrant instead of being the same lifeless, barren landscape. the most funny thing is the price on steam while enshrouded is worth it but not valheim. I got bored after one day in Valheim, while I played Enshrouded 24/7 for an entire week.

[@theperfectbeing]

Agreed, I have both games and I don't know wtf the Valheim fans are talking about for graphic comparison. Wandering through the woods in the dark in enshrouded with those giant mushroom creatures half glowing scurrying around with northern lights overhead giving ray tracing styled glimpses of light is 10 times better than anything I've seen in Valheim. Looking out over the land from the top of a tower before gliding off over the shroud where you see all the monsters scurrying around in mists. Also they showed a single floor crypt as Enshroudeds "Dungeon" and not the Hallowed halls, one of which is basically an underground city like a scene from LOTR or dungeons from Tears of the Kingdom. They didn't showcase anyone kiting a group of mobs and using the glider to gain distance and then weaving in spells or ranged attacks or using the grappling hook to grab platforms. Valheim is the superior survival experience but as far as graphics, crafting and exploration goes, Enshrouded is on another planet.

[@konstantinosmanolakos1957]

So you played for an hour died a lot and quit? 🤔

[@NukEverything]

@@konstantinosmanolakos1957 nah iplayed around a week got bored cuz no content only mining and quit the bosses were made for casuals hack and slash ez mode

[@thomaslarsson4667]

It seems Valheim has better character animations.

[@YourPalShiro]

valheim is just better

[@DomeWrecker63]

Animations maybe. Graphics. NO. Combat. NO.

[@YourPalShiro]

@@DomeWrecker63 nah everything, valheim slaps harder

[@bartomolev6682]

​@@DomeWrecker63combat requires skill, patience, and stamina management which is really cool In my opinion. And graphics are subjective, some people like it others don't.

[@DomeWrecker63]

@@bartomolev6682 these type of games we have to agree to disagree lol

[@bartomolev6682]

@@DomeWrecker63 we all have our own preferences, its not like there can only be one game in a certain genre

[@gastonnieto1540]

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