Horizon Forbidden West vs Horizon Zero Dawn - Physics and Details Comparison

[@skins4thewin]

I honestly didn't think they could possibly make this game look much better than it already did, specially on PS4. But man they proved me wrong. The sheer amount of detail is just insane! It's so much nicer than the original & I thought the original was one of the best looking titles on the PS4! They've really pushed the boundaries of what this system can do!

[@jamentert3450]

agree, that they pulled this off on PS4 (Pro) is amazing, it is still the same game engine as Zero Dawn, so part 3 is going to blow us away on PS5. I finished the game in 60 hours with all side quest completed and still coming back to it to try to 100% all activity's which i never do after the story for most games. I do think Forbidden West is a sequel but.... same engine, story is not all that good, it's massive and complete but still like Zero Dawn 1.9 and not 2.0. Not really fair for a complete game that is worth every cent but if feels like a mid episode of the rest of the story.

[@glenmcl]

You might wanna check out the Tomb Raider definitive remasters then.

[@skins4thewin]

@@glenmcl You definitely aren't understanding my point. I'm talking about a game developed for the PS4 originally that was already a showstopper for the system, then they bring out a sequel that somehow ups the ante even more. Remasters have nothing to do w what I was talking about.

[@Serso70]

@@jamentert3450 some people are genuinely never ever satisfied and are chronically inclined to complain and focus on what they didn't get instead of all the massive things they did get

[@jermaineadams435]

That's bcuz you haven't seen unreal engine 5

[@BehindTheArcane]

I love how you clearly recognize stuff like the grass for example but the slight discoloration really shows that the earth is dying slowly which is a nice detail in my opinion

[@pyrioncelendil]

The fun thing about this is that to any native of the American southwest, the grass being fugly compared to ZD's grass is entirely realistic.

[@St4rTr3v1Ut10n]

Right? OP is clearly from the east coast lmao. Deserts exist, and are actual biomes. Without them, the planet isn't balanced. ​@pyrioncelendil

[@babayaga4320]

The fire spread comparison was with two completely different weapons, I'm wondering if that's the reason for the big difference.

[@alexfaucheux6138]

Definitely the case. The slingshot uses aoe projectiles while the bow uses single target projectiles. Different use cases

[@deaghostyt2217]

@@alexfaucheux6138 and also the propagation of zero down showed was the one of the VERY WET JUNGLE FOREST and the one in forbidden west, almost a desert with no water

[@siddharththampi5383]

I've seen other gameplays with amazing fire spread physics in forbidden west. Something wrong with the bow here

[@renaudlemieux1]

@John Doe no the fire effect in hzd and hfw is drastically different there's now a little explosion when shooting fire arrows

[@ezysummerscosplay]

Same

[@gregsteele806]

One thing I don't like about Forbidden West: A lot of times, the camera feels too close to Aloy. It makes it difficult to maintain spatial awareness, especially when climbing or fighting.

[@maaximus1]

In Zero Down on PC You can change FOV from 70 to 100, so I will wait for PC version :)

[@DrBlackthief]

You can change that in the options

[@brunoryoshi2963]

@@DrBlackthief did not find it.

[@toastpavedtheway]

@@maaximus1 wait for 4 years

[@maaximus1]

@@toastpavedtheway That's okay. Right now I'm playing Horizon Zero Down on PC for the first time. I'll wait for Forbidden West too ;)

[@zackw4941]

I only just got around to playing Zero Dawn recently and I'm definitely enjoying it! It's nice that we've gotten to a point where a five+ year old game can still look and play perfectly fine. Fellow thirty-somethings will remember a time when a five year old game was ancient news.

[@glenmcl]

FFXIII 2009 still looks stunning.

[@Artificial_frog]

Seriously just played zero dawn and it ran beautifully on my ps5. I’ve found myself playing way more ps4 titles that I missed out on and a lot of them have received updates and continue to look decent even after 5+ years.

[@Bobdibob]

You're right, that just didn't happen in the 90s. I teach kids 10-14yo and they're buying games like Skyrim and original COD black ops.

[@combofriend4461]

Are you kidding- the Nintendo generation we played games on all consoles, old or new like our whole lives! I feel like NOW is when games get abandoned/die more quickly since a lot of games are online multiplayer and depend on the community still being active. It doesn't affect single player games like horizon as much though.

[@zackw4941]

@@combofriend4461 Now you mention it, I feel like there was that era 2D games that lasted some time.. But once 3D went mainstream, graphics started evolving so fast, last year's game was old news.

[@Ammy-q4w]

The climbing in Forbidden West seems to flow more naturally instead of being more obvious it's game physics like in Zero Dawn. They also improved the water coloration and added underwater swimming in Forbidden West and they made the snow physics more realistic, and the rain was heavier in Zero Dawn. The environment is brighter in Zero Dawn and more evenly spread-out in Forbidden West. I'll have to play the game myself to see if these changes bother or impress me. Also, take note in that Forbidden West takes place in a different location, so some of the environmental differences make sense because of that.

[@АндрейАкимов-л6е]

I had been finishing another run on HZD before the HFW release and when I started playing HFW I was switching between games. The locations are different and while HZD landscapes looks simpler (as expected) I like the art style. HZD looks great even 5 years later, especially on PS5. Having said this I love both games and I still can play HZD without feeling that it's outdated

[@Bulagot]

Snow? Really? I suppose you never see snow. In zero dawn more realistic snow

[@ConcreteAdvisory]

@@АндрейАкимов-л6е Thats what I felt too ! Not that outdated on PS5 with a great near 4k res and 60 fps. But when you look closely HFW has so much more details...

[@nickolasdeluca]

I like the snow tracks better in the first game, they seem more realistic. I don't see how someone would create a clear path on snow just by walking a single time through it.

[@snowykitten6860]

@@nickolasdeluca i feel like it's a matter of how deep the snow was. In the frozen wilds, the mountain was not that steep- more like a gradual slope upwards. In forbidden west, the mountains look to be steeper, so maybe not as much snow stacks and compacts on itself which would make the snow thinner and more likely to leave a trail of grass. That'd how I think of it, anyway. Of course, I could always be wrong.

[@portopilzi]

one thing I was disappointed with in forbidden west was that when you jump on a ladder from far way, aloy swings right through the lower bars. I feel like that is a common enough thing for them to fix.

[@sartavin]

Forbidden West looks nicer, and they give you more movement options... but HZD has better overall movement. No nerfed dodge. No constant environment blocking, or Aloy getting stuck in a climbing motion because you came too close to a surface while in a fight. Generally smoother control.

[@MirkwoodCrow]

Those were bugs that are fixed now

[@tjhicks3600]

The environment blocking when you're in a battle gets ridiculous with both games

[@jamiehall-hanlon3104]

I’ve just started and racked about 30 hours on HFW and this was my most noticeable complaint, getting stuck on the environment, in an intense fight and Aloy starts climbing, the movement and climbing and being stuck on things can really infuriate you and kill the flow of the game

[@berrex5152]

to me what you just described was a make it or break it. the first game was better

[@mikegardner5319]

Maybe im blind but in conclusion zero dawn holds up pretty well..?i had it on a pro and it was beautiful. Water could improve though

[@wereqryan]

LOL if I weren't mistaken, Zero Dawn actually beats out Forbidden West.

[@asvphios9996]

@@wereqryan do you even have eyes? Your dumbass is probably watching this at 720p…have you seen both games in person? Because I have and forbidden west is miles ahead.

[@analtfordetroid1249]

Consequences of trying to relase a 'next-gen' game on last gen consoles.

[@adrian123781]

@@asvphios9996 I don't care!

[@АндрейАкимов-л6е]

For whatever reason HZD plays smoother on PS5 than HFW Performance mode. There are many improvements, indeed, but HZD still looks amazing

[@stopthat4527]

Just replayed zero dawn. Holds up very well, and can compete with new games. Obviously forbidden west is better, but not a fair comparison. Considering the budget and risk of zero dawn, it is insanely impressive what they accomplished.

[@glenmcl]

30fps is horrible though. Loaded ZD up on my ps4pro to replay it but can't go back after 60fps

[@kaanuzunlu9248]

I play on normal ps4 and have 60 FPS

[@imrwanx4999]

Nah zero dawn is way better

[@OutCast907]

@@kaanuzunlu9248 That's impossible

[@nextbigthingthebeastincarn7216]

@@glenmcl PS4 pro has 60fps

[@shadyjoanneboots]

I'm probably in the minority but I love her new face. They made her more realistic in FW as opposed to the first game where she kinda looks a little weird and plasticky in comparison, like a doll.

[@Karolina-ck8ss]

I agree

[@pool842]

Agreed

[@elijahvertsehovski7020]

Well. Technically she is not a real human.. so we can give her a slack 😉 But graphics are astonishing in both games.. I think at least. And considering that ZD was released in 2017, it’s absolutely stunning

[@vanifarron]

Yess I love that she has freckles and is more expressive

[@archusrtm6325]

Yeah

[@jaewonkim1546]

When I first walked through tall grass in FW I felt something was off. Couldn't put my finger on it until I saw the direct comparison. ZD had better grass physics where the grass got pushed by your body while FW does not. Seems like a small detail but the lack of grass physics made me think I was in cover when I was not in cover and messed up some stealth opportunities. Other than this, I am amazed at how much better FW looks than ZD because when I first played ZD I was awestruck by how beautiful games have become.

[@Imaworldstar-jw3yj]

Oh..i am studying english online be my friend

[@renaudlemieux1]

The grass physic is improved in hfw you maybe just had a bug and the stealth grass is the same in both game and never had issues witg it

[@jaewonkim1546]

@@renaudlemieux1 I would argue that the grass physics is worse. Watch 3:47. In ZD you literally push the grass away from your body. Even if the grass is leaning towards you, you will push it the other way. In FW Aloy kind of phases through the grass as it shakes a bit, and the shake is the same however you walk through it.

[@jaewonkim1546]

@@Imaworldstar-jw3yj Sure Cutlet

[@commie_remover]

Consoles suck, that's why they had to remove the physics to save power to sell more copies to console normies who see “better graphics”.

[@AvisFlame24259]

I prefer the old climbing to the new. Aloy gets stuck so many times, even when you can see where she can jump she refuses to jump in that direction and when you get to the top, half the time she won’t pull herself up

[@shydreameress264]

Oh no I love the new climbing and hate the old one, yes it's true sometimes Aloy won't pull herself up and it can be a bit glitchy but we have so much more freedom I love it

[@Red_Rebel]

You just don’t know how to use the controls. Zero Dawn has a very limited climbing options unlike Forbidden West. It takes a while to get use to it because Aloy climbs automatically without you pressing it most of the time. You can also customize your controller from what you’re used to with other games.

[@jspur22]

@@Red_Rebel With the PS5 you can hit O and redirect to the left or right ledge you want. It's like another jump button.

[@Arcanis1212]

And the physics of how high or far she can jump changes when the devs felt like blocking an area or making you use a crate to unlock a puzzle in FW. It is maddening

[@OutCast907]

@@jspur22 We don't all have the PS5 btw

[@courtneywestberry1966]

I was in love with the first. Loved loved loved the second one even more. Great storyline. Gameplay isn’t hard to learn, keeps you attracted to the game by how breathtaking it actually is.

[@sephy980]

I honestly think the weather, and lighting effects were better in zero dawn. i was blown away by the lighting in that game and the way it filtered through fog and stuff. it seems heavily toned down in forbidden west in that aspect.

[@pyrioncelendil]

Not sure if HFW has the same inherent issue with dynamic weather as HZD does since it's not out on PC yet but I've had multiple instances of sudden abrupt weather changes where I guess the slow transition from one weather pattern to another got skipped, so one second it would be calm and clear with just the godrays coming off the moon in the horizon and then WHAM instant dust storm in the wrong biome for that.

[@_delirious]

yeah, also, it rained down more in hzd.. imo

[@gisakur15]

I think so too, Forbidden West looks more detailed and the clouds look amazing, but there’s something about Zero Dawn that makes it look prettier, even when you can clearly see the differences and improvements in certain aspects like the characters and textures in FW, I think Zero Dawn had better lighting and ambience.

[@niiskuneitiBANAANI]

I agree, the enviroment looks better in zero dawn. It's the shadows, details, colors.

[@gisakur15]

@@niiskuneitiBANAANI The shadows are almost non existent in FW if you notice, I liked the contrast from the light and shadow in Zero Dawn

[@alonepotatoes]

One thing not mentioned but that is way much better are the campfires. In ZD the woods were comnected in a cone form while in FB its randomized which makes it looks 100% more natural than before

[@ForiamStudios]

This makes me excited for the remastered.

[@ianmiguelmanansala2957]

loved the hair aesthetics rather than semi-stiff in dawn, but overall both are great i think highly appreciated

[@Bobdibob]

I found the hair beautiful, but a bit buggy. Mid cut-scene it often starts flying about all over the place

[@-sanju-]

One thing I never see mentioned is how amazing the animal models are in FW. Even small animals like lizards and scorpions look incredible up close.

[@ptit-monsieur]

Wow you've put Horizon 2 on the left and Horizon 1 on the right, I was about to have a stoke.

[@Elliementary99]

so glad I'm not the only one who thought this!! second game should be on the right😂😂

[@angel79nunn]

Ain't that big of a deal

[@mr.shneeblie5330]

Forbidden West is an improvement in basically every aspect, and one of the best sequels to any game ever.

[@PastPositive]

I like the game a lot, but it’s basically the same game but improved, with a trash story compared to the first, the “best sequel ever made” is probably the one thing that can’t be said about this game, there are so many better sequels, like Ezios trilogy from AC, Left For Dead 2, and even Red dead redemption 2.

[@mjeevans2104]

Visually yes .. but the story bored the shit outta me... was dull and lifeless ... like aloy .. I much preferred Zero Dawn ..

[@Diegohgodie]

You mean it's a good dlc of zero dawn. I've rarely played such an uninspired sequel

[@enderrz903]

Why do people hate the story so much tho I personally love it and it's actually kina better than HZD story

[@LianCasablacks]

@@enderrz903 How?

[@EvraeFrelia]

I love Zero Dawn and am loving Forbidden West even more, I can say Zero Dawn holds up really well however the changes to the physics in FW make the game feel more fluid to me

[@jimking81]

All good except for the fire comparison. The one was an arrow and the other a bomb. Very different effects there...

[@Enehall]

I think snow, fire and rain looks better in Zero Dawn

[@shadialfalahi8180]

Agreeed

[@goobytron2888]

Definitely the snow!

[@fizuldavinci7896]

Yess

[@mikegyver1967]

Guys, snow is exactly the same, rain too, are you blind ? Go see a doctor.

[@pippopino6948]

@@mikegyver1967 bro follow your Own advice.... You must really be blind to not see the differences...

[@noahkirschtein8169]

grass, snow, rain and fire was better in zero dawn imo, as well as the camera feeling off in FW. other than that FW is definitely an improvement and a great sequel

[@Rexistant.]

Great comparison! Hope they change the fire 'spread'. Because now it is, uhm yeah, very crap 🤣!

[@shadowemperor7837]

Its different weapons edioit

[@Vaultyboi22]

Yea because comparing a bow with a fire tipped arrow is the same as fucking napalm

[@jimking81]

Sure. If you compare an arrow with a bomb..!! 😩

[@allmight8127]

How did people not see this silly

[@pyrioncelendil]

About the only improvement to both that I would accept as an improvement would be to import pre-release Far Cry 2's fire physics. You know, the kind where you can set the whole world map on fire if you're not careful.

[@cesarzaitoun1129]

All the game needed is new techniques and machines to fight as an upgrade, Zero Dawn is a masterpiece Nice video by the way

[@kalamies.]

Wow Zero Dawn looks so much more aged than I remember, so weird to see it after such a long time

[@farouqharris9028]

The biggest change that mattered to me was how much improvement they made to the facial expressions on- and off-dialogue. It's less uncanny, more natural and believable in FW.

[@hallyuotaku2777]

HFW was one of the best sequel made and it's improvement from it's predecessor is actually amazing. but there are still problem I find in the game, like when jumping into beams, Aloy will have a delay of 1-2seconds before she can climb or jump again. if you're walking slowly or crouching you can't move forward with some stairs or a rock with maybe a 60cm high which kinda annoys me when sneaking in some camps. after playing Death Strandings which also uses the Decima Engine, I thought HFW would be so flawless with it's terrain but still it is an amazing game, 10/10. I just hope they will fix those buggy features in the future updates.

[@sartavin]

They need to polish the movement a bit, even now 4 months after launch. HZD still feels smoother in combat and movement.

[@govindjoshi6628]

Is Death stranding' better than RDR2 and HFW ??

[@tjhicks3600]

@@govindjoshi6628 not better than RDR2 but arguably better than HFW

[@saaquuiib]

The most replayed part of this video is hilarious

[@jeioh1827]

The rain effects, grass physics, and volumetric light are much better in Zero Dawn.

[@Tunedark]

No.

[@tyaseighty]

definitely grass yeah

[@SynchronizedGaming901]

No some yes but forbidden west looks better I do prefer aloy face in zero dawn tho

[@CrimsonArcturus]

It wasn't the same weather being compared

[@allmight8127]

@@CrimsonArcturus yeah it was also the starting area theres lightning in fw storms

[@masofaviy_talim]

7:08 Wow, If I not mistaken I've never seen before like that

[@olechkalastochka1978]

Похоже, в новой игре графика более совершенная. Но и в 1й части смотрится очень красиво и природа и машины. Классная игра, жду порт 2 части на ПК. Потянет ли ??

[@Простойпарень-ъ2г]

на пс4 про норм ну всё так же те же 30 фпс и меньше 😂😂

[@thestorieswillneverend9295]

FW is better but I wish there was a better grass effect like in ZD. I like they added face paints but wish they add hairstyles. I hate how the camera is close on Aloy I NEED MY SPATIAL AWARENESS esp when she’s in vents. Also the jumping animation seems so off like when she jumps on the crate and then to another object. It doesn’t feel so smooth. Also we need an option TO DATE KOTALLO 😢

[@xenex100]

so many games have been released since 2018, and still red dead redemption 2 is one of the best, if not the best graphically game

[@awsomeboy360]

It's because it's made by Rockstar. Rockstar GTA V still holds up in many ways. Which is GTA 6 will blow people away.

[@chmpxgne1543]

The last of us 2 does a good job but I think rdr2 looks slightly better

[@broosewain1528]

Obviously since they had like infinite budget

[@amraboughazala5986]

@@chmpxgne1543 the last of us 2 is the same as the last of us 1 with a different script. I would never compare any of Rockstar's work to a politically stolen game that was made intentionally to influence political lobby ideas's to us.

[@chmpxgne1543]

@@amraboughazala5986 I’m talking about the graphics. Don’t compare the last of us 1 to 2 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@alfresi_]

Yo cuando conocí el juego, pensé que era un juego muy aburrido y todo eso, pero cuando jugué al Zero Dawn me encanto y compre el Forbidden West y es espectacular, ahora como ya no tengo mi ps5 hace poco volví a comprarme los 2 juegos, jugándolos a 4k y a máxima resolución en mi PC y me increíblemente mejor en la ps5, noto mas la diferencia de las texturas y las físicas también son increíbles, pensé que no podría superar al Zero Dawn pero la realidad fue que me sorprendido bastante. Los 2 son juegos muy buenos, se los recomiendo muchísimo.

[@absolutefoot4594]

They both look incredible but wow there's a notable improvement in Forbidden West

[@epicemth3651]

Winners, in my opinion:. Tree Archery: Forbidden West Snow Physics*: Zero Dawn Swimming: Forbidden West Climbing*: Both Hunting Animals: Forbidden West Jumping from a high Point: Both Changes in Aloy's Face: Both Grass*: Both Water Physics*: Zero Dawn Horse: Forbidden West World: Both Fire Spread*: Zero Dawn Rain: Zero Dawn Can you shot NPCs?: Zero Dawn *Snow Physics: Yes, the snow is heavier in Zero Dawn, but in Forbidden West it looks like it's dry, like powder.. As if it's been snowing flour... *Climbing: The sounds seem better in Zero Dawn, the looks in Forbidden west.. In Zero Dawn it seems more powerful, and to be honest, in Forbidden West I don't think I'd know where I should climb up, because it's more obvious in Zero Dawn... *Grass: The looks are better in Forbidden West, the sounds in Zero Dawn.. and at least in Zero Dawn the Grass physics allow to detect an object when it walks through... *Water Physics: The sound is better in Zero Dawn.. And for some reason the Water has no reflection in Forbidden West.. you can just see through.. strange... *Fire spread: Yes, I know they were using two different weapons, but I know how the real Fire arrow looks like, and it's still better.. besides, the title says: fire SPREAD, not fire arrows! Which means, the bomb counts too... This was only my opinion...

[@Nacalmaa]

Obras de arte do tipo q valem cada centavo, eu já era fã agora me apaixonei de vez pela guerrilla

[@ki2348]

the graphics look way nicer, can't wait to play it!

[@gamebes7]

Please Like video😃🥰

[@dragonslayer5643]

👍👍

[@RIddLEmEDisthang]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@St4rTr3v1Ut10n]

FW is "technically" better, but the foundation of Zero Dawn is, quite frankly, unparalleled. I've had more fun in ZD and FW than any of the AC games. ZD deserves respect when compared to its younger sibling.

[@2wolves-gaming]

Цветовая гамма Zero Dawn мне больше нравится, а вот изменения в Forbidden West лица Элой меня ни сколько не смущают.

[@ああ-q7w5z]

what?

[@dammitpash]

@@ああ-q7w5z "I like colorize in Zero Dawn more than in Forbidden West. Changes of Aloy's face in Forbidden West don't bother me"

[@АндрейАкимов-л6е]

Да, арт дизайн выглядит более сбалансированным. Я думаю, что было сложно "добавить и улучшить", но при этом выдержать тот же баланс. Я отчасти решил вопрос цветовой гаммы настройками на телевизоре )))

[@Deedric_Kee]

On PS5 "Horizon Zero Dawn got an 60fps,but I have the "PS5 Special Edition with the Steel book with disc. And man "Forbidden West is untouchable. I don't use hdr and I play in resolution mode on every game. But for "Forbidden West I use favor performance in the actual game settings and Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut I use favor performance in actual game settings. Nice video 👍

[@LeonThomasian]

Wow the grass movement around 4:00 looked more realistic in zero dawn

[@commie_remover]

Console normies don't care about physics, all they see is gRaPhIcS

[@SCDJMU]

@@commie_remover yo relax edgelord

[@Izanagi-Okami]

Since you’re here, might as well check out some crisp gameplay 😉 Horizon Forbidden West Rockbreaker kzbin.info/www/bejne/opS0kqWKj8aKms0

[@asanoinio8100]

Zero dawn really gives you the devastating atmosphere while forbidden west is the opposite- in my own perspective.

[@combofriend4461]

This is exactly how I feel

[@priscilabee583]

I wish they hadn"t changed Aloy's face so much in Forbidden West.

[@dayofdefeatful]

The fire was fucked up.

[@allmight8127]

You trolling ? It was two different weapons

[@dayofdefeatful]

​@@allmight8127 I think it's a regular flaming arrow, not an explosive arrow.

[@dan66133]

I Will love a Horizon Game with Rost, a prequel, he also go into the west, and if i Remember right Rost made a Word Tour, he return to Nora s Land cause the fate . But i think he fought againts machine all over the world!

[@richardjensen7186]

FW is graphically more advanced, but IMO the overall game mechanics are a dramatic DOWNGRADE from ZD. IMO, in FW everything from climbing to jumping to melee to arrow shots to clipping to inventory management to... well, you get the idea, are all a downgrade from ZD. IMO the "quality of life" is WAY worse in FW compared to ZD. No comparison! I loved ZD like no other game, but I'm at most "meh" with FW and often really frustrated by the quality of life decisions the devs made. The "stash" mechanic, among many others, is an abomination. And in FW, while climbing, Aloy gets stuck in all sorts of absurd and janky ways; like just a few minutes ago I'm five feet from the ground, but I can't use C to make Aloy drop down to the ground. She can climb up or sideways, but she CANNOT drop to the ground! Apparently she needs to "drop to a ledge," and there is no ledge, BECAUSE IT'S THE GROUND! She can't jump off, and she can't jump down. I have to climb up to a spot where I can jump off and glide to the ground. Just ridiculous! So, yeah, FW is a graphical advancement, but ZD was WAY more fun to play! IMO ZD was well worth $60, but I'd recommend waiting for at least a half-price sale to pick up FW. Just one man's opinion, and, I know, opinions vary.

[@ryangwillard1475]

One of the things I wish Zero Dawn had was with the bow how you can aim with it 🙁the fire spread in Dawn is very realistic it’s awesome, in Forbidden West it’s looks a bit clunky

[@Elphiyero10]

Both games look great - one thing I miss in HFW is the vibrancy of Aloy's hair. I don't think that bright orange shade is any less realistic - it's more auburn in HFW and I miss the orange.

[@edwardmarcell2494]

First off I'm so glad I got this game today. I already have Horizon Zero Dawn and played most of the way through the game. Wonderfully awesome.

[@gregsteele806]

Anyone else notice that the multi-arrow skill seems broken? It feels like I'm not getting the damage / elemental build up that I should be getting from 3 arrows. You could really tell the difference in Zero Dawn, but in Forbidden West the skill seems useless.

[@scottd7222]

They added a stamina bar to the skill so it's harder to spam it

[@gregsteele806]

@@scottd7222 I’m not referring to multiple uses. I mean one use. Watch the damage numbers and compare a single arrow to a flight of three.

[@Vt0702]

Wouldn't say the skill is useless especially with overdrive but it is nerfed as I guess the game wants you to try the new stuff

[@timeyinsholaye9169]

@@gregsteele806 it is definitely nerfed

[@StrappingYoungLadam]

It's definitely nerfed from the first game but for the better in my book. In Zero Dawn loading up 3 frost arrows followed by loads of 3 hard point arrows was the easiest way to kill literally anything. Even on ultra hard. By having that less broken I feel more compelled to get creative with my tactics.

[@dopepopeurban6129]

I don’t know what it is, maybe the slight motion blur in forbidden west, but zero dawn kinda looks better to me. Less flashy, more stunning

[@souls_graphic1503]

In my opinion Horizon Zero Dawn can keep up well because the graphics are nice and the fire spread is very good. Forbidden West is very good too but i hoped it would be better then that

[@allmight8127]

Fire spread was two different weapons a silly comparison its spreads just fine in fw

[@super_kami_dende]

Horizon is like GOW 2018. They made a beautiful looking game, gave it some cool and fun mechanics and an enjoyable story. They then made a sequel that took the problems with the first game and fixed them, updated the graphics, and added new mechanics to make it even more fun and enjoyable to play.

[@albertzabal2636]

disappointed that they removed the RAGDOLL PHYSICS from the dead robot corpses. and that the synthetic muscles reacted in the previous game(Zero Dawn) to the Arrow hits and now in F.W. they don't, now when you kill a robot it's just a static rock that doesn't react to anything

[@asvphios9996]

That’s more realistic dumbass

[@hansalanson3497]

The robots ragdoll physics in ZD gave me the impression they are styrofoam weight

[@albertzabal2636]

@@asvphios9996 Well, yes, cutting/remove physics is always bad. especially if you have achieved such a great physycs effect in a PS4 game and have eliminated it in a PS5 that is much more powerful. shooting with an arrow at a synthetic muscle of a robot loaded with hydraulic fluid and that it moved a little bit with RAGDOLL PHYSICS is areally good detail, Arrow shoot make react slightly to the impact of the arrow, gave a very organic sensation and tremendously careful RAGDOLL physics and great detail in the previos PS4 game (this is how synthetic prototype muscles work )

[@albertzabal2636]

also in the previous game with your "horse" that robot that is like a deer/bull you could ram the corpse of any robot and move it and it was a very curious detail. you have seen a bull ramming a parked car, look it up on KZbin, believe me it moves without problem. Now in Forbidden West wit the remove of the physycs you cant move nothing,absolutely nothing, not even the smallest robot

[@nenemuy]

@@asvphios9996 doesn’t matter, cause it makes the game less interactive. who cares if it’s realistic or not if it isn’t fun

[@Canal-gi8di]

2 masterpiece…must do

[@justindohrn1262]

Best game when it comes to graphics, is tlou 2 in my opinion, shortly followed by rdr2, love these games

[@paulosergio7532]

You mean Demon Souls Remake right?

[@eldergod4809]

I agree, red dead 2 is a perfect pallette of true Western realisation and last of us 2 for environment and facial features are beautiful too

[@gamingstation4801]

Omg.. Water looks significantly good . Details and textures also have good improvement.

[@Appliciousness]

Tbh I kinda like the graphics in Zero Dawn better. The effect of the slightly muted tones/details in the environment makes it easier to focus on Aloy and what she's doing. It also made it easier to fight battles. Now it's sort of like the environment is competing for attention with Aloy and the machines, which is overwhelming and distracting sometimes.

[@AdamAfiq-x8i]

i love how the water look in forbidden west

[@danimartin818]

HFW looks fantastic! I can't wait to play it.

[@monsieurbaguette6191]

Seeing this just makes me wonder how games will look like in 10 years. Everytime we say "woah look at these graphics" something better comes out

[@artoficial1445]

Fire, rain and grass walkthrough and arrow in water most definitely look way better in HZD in my opinion!

[@gutstsk]

i suggest in the next videos put the old one in the left side of the screen, feels more chronological

[@ShinigamiArts69]

the absolute masterpiece

[@plasmaman5219]

🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@TherealWi24RD]

They both have their pros and cons. Still think you should be able to retrieve arrows… at least a couple times.

[@robpersoon1486]

De heilige grot 8:19

[@robpersoon1486]

Hoe kom i er uit

[@SamAdamsDesigns]

It’s crazy how real she looks in FW when in ZD she looks so doll-like

[@Forguel]

@John Doe igual no miente en zero dawn no tenia ningún rasgo facial era plana la textura

[@FerraKube]

real? are you serious? you need to go to doctor

[@friesenmax2541]

@John Doe 🤣🤣🤡👍😂

[@Skyla2839]

Ikr, in FW we have a living person. But the only crazy thing here is, that people like the fake doll more...

[@eldersrollsapprentice6306]

And the crazy thing is that first game felt real a few years ago. Maybe fw will feel doll like compared to third game.

[@unchi_veryLOVE]

ホライゾンは相変わらずグラフィック綺麗だなぁと思いながら2をプレイしてたが比較するとエゲつないくらい違いがある。 勝手に脳内でホライゾン1も2同等に美化されてたが比較では2に劣る繊細さの部分見受ける。 それくらい2は全てが繊細と言える。 それでも2017年のゲームとは思えないグラフィックでこの作品に会えたことに感謝です。ありがとう。

[@keithspainjr7669]

Great games... I'm loving Forbidden West. Been playing it here and there over the past few weeks.

[@auxvii]

I like FW a lot more, but I do like ZD’s storyline. It’s very captivating to me because Aloy’s backstory is explained

[@domtom010]

They both look equally amazing imo

[@Lon3Wolf01]

I loved both of these games the visuals and such are really improved in forbidden west I absolutely cannot wait until the next one these games are great I love them so much I love the music and scenery in forbidden west the visuals are so pleasing to look at and the music is soooo good

[@ChewyMustaineReviews]

Grass interactions, and hair movements looks so much better in zero dawn, I feel so embarrassed of the enormous downgrade in this aspects

[@alternativeworld2390]

Grass in Zero Dawn are from PC-version. On PS4 it's not interactive

[@ConcreteAdvisory]

downgrade ? Aloy litterally leaves her trail in the grass... it's a really subtile and well made deetail. Even animals leave their trail in it (also in sand and snow)

[@thejjzz]

What are you talking about? Hair movement is MUCH better in Forbidden West.

[@ibrahimsaba1592]

They shall release more patches for more optimization of forbidden west on ps4 and for more interaction matters and details

[@ComeBits343]

More optimization on ps4? What do you want 60 fps🤣🤣for more optimozation get a ps5, what else do you want with that rusty piece of tech

[@ibrahimsaba1592]

@@ComeBits343 No, but in 30 fps things like fire spread and interaction with people and nature should be more real and have more natural effects than this.

[@aadrishdey932]

@@ComeBits343 rusty piece of tech really ? nice joke

[@wheresatari668]

I'm a little split if I'm being perfectly honest. I think the swimming had a bit more detail in ZD, and the tree archery is most definitely better in the original. There was bark flying off the tree and everything and that wasn't there in the FW clip you showed. I also thought the warthog looked slightly better with the brown fur in ZD. Something was just a smidge off about it in the FW clip. Aloy and the grass looked a lot better in FW. All in all I think they both have their ups and downs.

[@benferguson8235]

I think you got it backwards, forbidden west was shown on the left and zero dawn on the right, I made the same mistake lol.

[@kiko60890]

Yo no veo tanta difencia, es más, en algunos aspectos incluso veo mejor al zero dawn.

[@olivermirez6667]

Totalmente de acuerdo.

[@zellentorvic]

🤣

[@byfoxygamee1795]

@@zellentorvic de q te ríes bro?

[@speedyz4307]

X5

[@copacolondrios1841]

Atentamente la persona que no tiene ps5 y no lo ha jugado

[@DiasBrianFreitas]

In my oppinion, the only two thing Forbidden West lost was in Fire Propagation and Shoot at NPCs. All other things looks pretty better. Congratulations for the material and comparision!

[@matthewgoss8370]

Forbidden west showed a fire arrow, zero dawn showed a fire bomb. Not a great comparison, but if they look the same when both use arrows or bombs I would agree with you.

[@DiasBrianFreitas]

@@matthewgoss8370 nice observation!

[@epicemth3651]

And snow! Forbidden West lost snow too! I mean it's obvious! Snow is better in Zero Dawn!! And the water in Forbidden West might be more beautiful and "realistic", but in Zero Dawn it's reflicting the Light just like normal water, so in Zero Dawn the water gets a point from me too, but not swimming, thats better in Forbidden West...

[@hitman9198]

@@epicemth3651 lol what?

[@AlinneOlivares]

@@epicemth3651 The snow isn't better in Zero Dawn. The shoots are from The Frozen Wilds, where obviously the snow it's pretty heavy there.

[@PatrickWDunne]

The way the water looks in HFW vs HZD is like night and day.

[@TheVanObar]

I really hope they release horizon forbidden west on PC at some point

[@doperdr]

They will 3-4 years later. Enjoy an outdated game

[@dean.doodles]

@@doperdr ....My friend works at guerrilla games... He says that the studio along with other PS exclusives studios were begging and requesting Sony to port the games to PC cuz internally they love playing and developing on pc. So fake gamers like you can stay toxic ... Your salty ass don't matter anyway lol 😂

[@auralla]

@@doperdr it’ll still be fun to play huh?

[@chickenpotbiebro202]

mmm wonder why most replay is at 3:01

[@1xplorer]

For gaming activities wise, if they manage to allow free climbing like Assassin’s Creed series, this will be the best experience because we all love it as high as possible to see the beautiful of the landscape from above

[@son_roger0968]

*6:57** la lluvia sin duda es mucho mejor en Zero Down 🥺🥺🥺*

[@itriyum]

La comparacion no fue justa, la parte de FW que mostraron aqui es muy pobre Hay muchas otras partea del juego donde la lluvia se ve mil veces mejor que ZD

[@tatoin6923]

en esa comparacion lo parece pero la lluvia del Zero Down del clip es mucho mas intensa que la del forbidden ya que ahi estaba más bien chispeneando.

[@OriginalJetForMe]

What platforms did you record these on? PS4? PS5?

[@user-rx1io1qe4g]

Horizon zero dawn was the first game that loved so much spending more than 120 hours . I recently bought forbidden west (now with less than 30 hours ) and i have to say damnnn. It is hella improved . The water and the life underwater is amazing , the characters models are outstanding especially Aloy's. Although at some point i felt that it was kinda frustrating because of the huge skill tree, the upgrading table , the extreme detail about machines when scanned by focus , all felt too much. Maybe i feel this way because I still am new player but idk . With that being said I still believe that this game is a masterpiece and i hella love it . It is a rock solid 9.7/10 game for sure

[@hiltonlavish7778]

I wanna ask stupid question, is it zero dawn new part or just a remake to this 2017 game?

[@MirkwoodCrow]

@@hiltonlavish7778 Forbidden West is the sequel to Zero Dawn

[@hiltonlavish7778]

@@MirkwoodCrow thank you for your answer

[@Hannacalebclark]

The hair physics improved so much

[@goddesskate5958]

the comparison is pretty bad as some of the things u didnt do the same and some of the tools used wasnt the same so it dosent show it properly

[@allmight8127]

Omfg I'm scrolling through the comment and thinking people are trolling or just blind

[@colibri6632]

I admit that the graphics are really wow! But for some reason I'm still drawn to the Zero Dawn. It's probably because of the plot. Magic works when not all questions have answers. This is the curse of many good stories. And nanobots. It's like in iron man. I like the first part because his suit felt real. As soon as he began to transform from pixels, the brain simply does not believe in it. Same thing with the Forbidden West. I had fun until I saw the villains. Of course I'll wait for this story to end. But something tells me that the first part will always be number one for me.

[@r-idem2155]

The only problem I'm finding in Horizon Forbidden West is that when you use your focus, caches or plants and even animals don't keep highlighted anymore like in the previous game. And climbing has become a tad more difficult 😔

[@jadendrysdale8864]

You need to hold down your right stick for them to stay highlighted unlike in zero dawn.

[@pauloferrer5000]

I just recently purchased a Vizio M6 series tv. The graphics look stunning.

[@Andrecio64]

0:11: ok WTF IS THAT!? WHAT A DOWNGRADE!

[@kalamies.]

It looks better in HFW what? The Arrows even move for a while after hitting the tree

[@bretsgamingchannel]

I liked the snow, swimming (except lack of underwater swimming), jumping/falling to death, and grass more in Zero Dawn which surprised me. Both look fantastic of course, so it's not really a complaint, just preference. Water seems too "noisy" in FW to me.

[@Uncle_Zane]

Во время проверки огня ты в West стреляешь из лука, а в zero бомбочками из рогатки, надо было тоже из лука стрелять чтоб такие как я не душнили 👌

[@CumBoJl_lllu3Hu]

В итоге какая лучше ?

[@CumBoJl_lllu3Hu]

Или это Сонька и ПК. ? я давн прошел

[@SadRavenFr]

5:24 j'étais pas prêt pour le sifflement dans HZD 🤣🤣🤣🤣, j'ai explosé de rire. Le doubleur dans cette version en avait rien a foutre, voir ne savais pas sifflé avec les doigts.

[@nuclearlo0ve]

I dislike climbing in FW. ZD was much easier lol too many points of articulation in FW. I LOVE how they added animals doing little activities by themselves. Wild hogs will roll over in the dust and play. Also the grass physics is much much better in ZD. She even reaches her hands out to brush against it.

[@Хех-я1ж]

Прошёл недавно Zero Dawn+Frozen Wilds дополнение и хочу сказать что это прям самая красивая игра в которую я когда либо играл . Всё на столько проработано,что прям хочется каждый уголок исследовать и пройти. На очереди Forbidden West.Надеюсь на неё ещё в будущем анонсируют какое-то дополнение,которое нормально так расширяет игру (как было с Frozen Wilds) .

[@Coro11a]

Дополнение на fw уже анонсировано. Но только на пс5. Burning Shores называется. Релиз 19 апреля