🔴 GameChanger for Leica CL, Leica SL2 + Any L Mount Cameras! | 7Artisans LM-L Close Focus Adapter

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

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[@helgividar]

Crazy bokeh!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@helgividar haha it should be with a decent background outside :)

[@ArnaudSiemons]

Love this adapter combined with the 90mm F/4.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes! Great adapter all over

[@RuskinKyle]

Matt, on the CL you CAN get focus magnification with 3rd party adapters by clicking the UP and DOWN arrows. Give it a try.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! yes another viewer helped me. I had it turned off. I will try to post a short update video tonight to correct this and help anyone else who might no have it on.

[@aviationodyssey1892]

great video. btw what's the name of the M42 to M adapter?

[@LucyS565]

Thanks Matt for this amazing info! You have helped me immensely! (I just got my Leica M adapter L) :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Lucy, congrats!

[@philippbrandenburg3070]

I am probably too late to the table or you know this already, but when putting a non-Leica adapter onto the CL the x3 and x6 magnification should be available via the up arrow of the "Directional Dial" (right hand side of the back of the cam). This should work out of the box, unless critical presets were changed. -- The TL2, on the other hand can be programmed to have the left wheel do the magnification. Go to Menue. Go to General. Go to Left Dial. Deselect one of the six options for the functions of this wheel, then select "Focus Aid" instead. (There must always be six of six, no other number than that is possible!) Finally press Set. The man icon stands for magnification, the magnifying glass icon for magnification. And there is an icon that combines both. Select the latter and the left dial will permanently (i.e., irrespective of the adapters' brand) allow you to focus in and have focus peaking at the same time.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks for taking the time to respond. Yes I finally worked it out but I’m sure your response will help future viewers.

[@Garacha222]

An interesting check to do on these adapters is to measure (with a micrometer) how parallel both ends of the adapter are, by taking several measurements all the way around. Some adapter designs can be sloppy, and have an uneven 'slope' rather than being parallel. An uneven adapter with a slope will tilt the direction the lens is pointing (as it is in relation to the camera body), this variance affects the image plane of sharpness

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks great info. For me it won’t matter as I like a mix of perfection and imperfect, like with vintage lenses but worth noting for pixel peepers. Many thanks!

[@Garacha222]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom with quality of blur being a key objective for you, my comment wouldn't have any effect. It might even add more pleasing blur wherever the lens may be skewed away from. For any pixel peepers interested, Andrew & Denae did measurements of a small sample of adapters, and within that very small sample, the strongest (most parallel measured attaching surfaces) were among the brands Fotosay, Kipon, and Metabones. (I forgot which the worst ones were.)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@Garacha222 Thanks, great info, yes I know Kipon are great but I couldn't find one for my needs. Yes I used to play with tilt lense for the same bokeh effect! :) + Freelensing.. I wrote an article for one of the Uk main photo mags and they paid once and used it for about 5 years ha.

[@manemrob1510]

Great video Matt! I use the Shoten Macro version adapter but it's the same thing for M to L mount. I think the Shoten version may extend slightly further too but it's not a big deal and both are equally as good.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and sorry for my delayed reply. Thanks for sharing that info, good to know thanks!

[@GeneralTarik]

Nice! I use my SL for weddings and it’s sometimes hard getting those ring shots. I’ll be checking this out, thanks!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks yes me too! Excited to use for weddings now haha 👏🏻👏🏻😬

[@lattesweden]

Fotodiox has several helicoid close focusing adapters. I use their Stretch adapter from Minolta SR (MC/MD lenses) to Sony E-mount, but they have such adapters for most different mounts.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks for info! Yes I recognise the brand from Amazon

[@TheGazmondo]

I think you’ll find they are called extension tubes. Interesting channel by the way !

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Gary, yes I think if just a tube it is but this has the focusing helicoid too so more of an adapter I guess. I use tubes on other cameras.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I can't find your other comment to reply to but thanks! All my tubes are fixed - Hassy, M645, Kiev 88, Nikon etc but I guess it's just an adjustable tube in reality so thanks for info and channel feedback!

[@tonyvokey7607]

Thanks a bunch Matt!!! You are awesome.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Tony, no problem 👍🏻

[@ph4z_]

Matt, thanks for sharing so much CL goodness. To this adapter not allowing digital zoom anymore sounds like a software limitation on the Leica side, shame really. Has it by any chance been fixed in firmware? Also I feel a bit bad for calling your audio crunchy the other day, I have watched (a great deal) more of you videos and have to compliment you instead. Your content is really good: informative and presented with the great enthusiasm you obviously have for this subject.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and thanks. Yes some videos are better than others for audio but I'm always trying to improve. This video is old so get the newer LLL close focus adapter instead. Much better. (Link on MrLeica.Com in kitlist section - Light Lens Lab (and all adapters except Leica need to use up arrow to zoom to focus*)

[@brainz406]

Hello, Matt! Does this adapter wobble when you put noctilux f/1.0? Since i’m quite worried for the weight since i have the same lens. Thankyou!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

There is a slight movement with some lenses yes but I still use it without worry.

[@cfagil]

Great Recommendation Matt.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks i'm really looking forward to using it, especially with the vintage lenses :)

[@montokyo2001]

Thank you for this very instructive video ! I bought the 7 Artisan close adapter but when I try it on ma CL with my only Leica M mount 35,f1.4, the screen of the CL is completely black... I don't know how to handle it. Have you some advice please ? Thanks

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hello, try to dismount, re-mount the lens or adapter a few times. Some Chinese adapters don't connect 100% correctly.

[@montokyo2001]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you Matt ! I will try again...

I have a LM-Nikon Z helicoid adapter for my Noctilux (E60, yours is an older E58) which I bought as soon as I saw one on ebay (I was an early adopter of the Z7). It's a cheap plastic adapter made in China by an unknown brand, but it has served me well so far. However, I was waiting until something better were released and... voilà! 7Artisans also has a LM-Z, so I've just ordered it. I was aware of the Shoten adapters, they're high quality, but expensive. The 7Artisans, however, is very reasonably priced. Really, your channel is rather dangerous for us, poor GAS guys (a bit poorer right now, of course). :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Felipe! Sorry for the GAS, as a fellow sufferer ha. That said I was so happy to discover this one. I’m happy you managed to get a Z mount version. 👍🏻

[@GrainyByNature]

What about adding an OUFRO to the Leica adapter that works with the rolling zoom? They can be had for about $70 also.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Ryan, with the help of other viewers I got the arrow key magnification working. Works great!

[@hanselalvarez2690]

Nice video! Very informative, when you use this on your SL, does the focus peaking work? Or i need to purchase the Leica adapter?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

SL is fine with any adapter. Novaflex are good and see my 7Artisan close focus adapter video.

[@EricJason34]

When using non Leica branded adapters the top arrow on the rear wheel (if you still have it on factory set up) should enable the zoom for focusing.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, my arrows have never worked with MF lenses, only with TL AF lenses.

[@DougMcLachlan]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I have the Novoflex adaptor and the up arrow zooms for focusing as long as you have Focusing / Focus Assist / Auto Magnification setting set to "On"

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@DougMcLachlan Thanks SOOO much Doug! That will transform my experience with this adapter. I really appreciate your help. Thank you!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, Doug below told me how to fix it. Done! Amazing :) Thanks for your help too.

[@davegball]

Hi Matt. Does the two step zoom method work through the viewfinder or it's only in live view mode?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi David, viewfinder 👍🏻

[@jeticg]

Nikkor 50f2 HC LTM can focus really close natively, I think about 0.4m. And the IQ especially contrast I think is better than the summicron and elmar from the same period. Def check it out.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks I have it. 0.5m I think it is. I showed it in a previous video but will do a full review when I get chance. Thanks for info.

[@LandArchitect]

I have a Fotasy OM Lens to L Adapter for my SL and can not get focus peaking to work. Any suggestions? Thanks

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

It might be the lens, those with less contrast don’t seem to show FP wide open. I’m not sure if the adapter makes a difference. I think it works with my various adapters from memory.

[@burtonlee706]

When using the 7-Artisan adapter, is 3x 6x magnification working by pressing the up and down arrows?

[@vrubelontube]

Yes it can. I have this adapter. And it does zoom in with up/down buttons on the directional pad.

[@burtonlee706]

@@vrubelontube Great. Let me get it. Thanks for your info

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I hear it should but mine doesn’t, everyone else’s does so assume yes!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@vrubelontube thanks Victor, mine has never worked like this. Maybe I need to do a factory reset. Maybe I turned it off somehow.

[@edwinparker6732]

In the menu be certain you have set Focusing-Focus Assist-Auto Magnification-On to get the arrow keys to zoom. The set button will change between 3x and 6x. Cheers

[@absonus]

I have the Voitlander close focus adapter for M on Sony E and its very useful .... I wonder if Voit will bring out one for the CL ? Interesting vid .Thank you .

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Michael! Interesting.. you might like one of on my future videos then ;) I'm not sure Voigtlander will make an adapter.. I think they would have done already but we never know!

[@absonus]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hi Matt ..... I`m sure that the Voit adapter was designed by Tom Abramson . I don`t know if you ever knew him .He also was a consultant for Zeiss lenses .He passed a few years ago .... I miss him .A fund of knowledge .

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@absonus thanks for info, no I didn’t know him or the name. Thanks for sharing.

[@cfagil]

I bought the same 7 Artisans LM-L close up adaptor for my TL2 and SL . I can do both manual focus magnification assist and focus peaking with this adaptor on both bodies. First I thought I couldn't do it but managed to do it by researching a bit deeper and assigning the buttons and dials to the right settings. The idea of paying £350 for a Leica "6 bits" adaptor which does nothing more than tell me what apperture was used is nut. That said, most of my M lenses do not talk "6 bits" anyway. 7 Artisans adaptor is well made and so much cheaper. Highly recommended not unless you just wanted that lovely Leica label on the adaptor which I understand or do I really?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks yes I fixed the menus so all now works with this adapter, amazing! :) ..Yes I didn't paid close to that for the Leica but 3+ years ago I used to follow the Leica path.. since then I discovered all the amazing vintage lenses so I've not bought a Leica M lens in maybe 5 years.

[@cfagil]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Great to hear that you sorted out the manual focus magnification settings. Perhaps you should do a video on that. You will save fellow Leica shooters a lot of dosh on that overpriced Leica adaptor. By the way, my brother and friends in Hong Kong are Leica collectors. Most of them have almost all the current production Leica bodies and lenses; also the latest digital Hasselblad and Phase 1. That said, they seldom go out and take any photos even there is no lockdown in Hong Kong at present. They only lock you up for three weeks in a hotel (paid for by yourself) if you travel there from outside Hong Kong. We do need collectors like them to feed the Leica and other camera secondhand market. The only Canon lens they wanted to own is the Dream Lens (Canon 50mm f0.95 for Leica). If you bring your models with you to Hong Kong when the lockdown is over, you can run a few portrait workshops over there. After that, I have a very strong feeling that you can buy all the current production Leica bodies and lenses yourself. Happy to be your agent, guide and translator; my brother said he could not understand a word of what you said in your videos despite the fact that he spent many years in Canada before moving back to Hong Kong to run his business.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@cfagil thanks yes a nice idea for sharing the arrow keys focusing. I will thanks. Although I think most people seem to know except me ha. Re. HK thanks. I’ve never been to that part of the world and I have 1 guy there I know. It would be nice to bring an empty suitcase to buy a few lenses and yes I would be more than happy to run workshops. A guy flew me to NY twice and I ran 2x 1 week workshops for him.Maybe in the future if my KZbin gets going I can look to travel with it and use it to help fund the trip.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@cfagil you sound like you probably know Perry!? :)

[@cfagil]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Some of my friends might know him. The persons to ask with be either Patrick at London Aperture Leica or Ivor at Red Dot Leica. The planes from Hong Kong usually arrived around 6am at Heathrow. The collectors from Hong Kong would send their wives or girlfriends to Biscester Village (2nd most popular Chinese tourist attraction after the Queen's residence in Central London) and they themselves would go straight to their toy shops to see either Patrick or Ivor since they couldn't check into their hotels till lunchtime ish. They would then come to me to show off their latest purchase. Unfortunately this was all before the lockdown.

[@hanselalvarez2690]

For a Leica T I'm pretty sure the zoom focus aid will work since I've tried that on a Haoge adapter. Had to return it since its too tight, I fear it will damage my M lens. Curious to know if this adapter affects focusing to infinity and max aperture.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hello no both adapters I use and mention work at infinity, no problem.

[@aviationodyssey1892]

Is your 7Artisans adapter tight? Mine has a play : /

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes the Light Lens Lab M-L adapter. It's sharp at infinity and works much better (I did a video, search MrLeica Light Lens Lab adapter - link in that video description too)

[@fredericpousset7567]

Hello Matt, i just buy a SL2S and i wish use this camera with my M Lens, but i hesitate between the original and expensive Leica adaptator ring and the Novoflex ring. What do you think?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Frederic, I would get the Novaflex. I have the Leica one as I didnt know better when I bought the CL some years ago.

[@thedondeluxe6941]

Nice! How's the fit compared to the Leica adapter? I've been wondering if I should buy one of these myself, but the cheaper adapters often feel very loose and jiggly when attached and I don't really like that. Looks very nice to be able to focus closer, though!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi it’s a nice build and fit. More like the Leica than cheap Chinese adapters.

[@thedondeluxe6941]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Cool, thanks! Will probably give it a go, then :-)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@thedondeluxe6941 yes I think you will like it. I was happy to discover it after lots of reading and researching to look for a close focus solution.

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

I bought the Novaflex M to L mount adapter, only £133 vs £350

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nice yes Novaflex offer better value but no 2 step zoom I think? (Arrow keys instead maybe)

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Probably, I don't know, I don't have a CL.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@ChrisWhittenMusic if you ever get a CL the arrow keys should work with your adapter. (I posted follow up video)

[@GuamPhotoLife]

I tried using this adapter on my Leica SL, but when I mount it my LCD screen goes black and I can't use my camera, any ideas?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Unmount remount a few times, it happens with some adapters, just a bad connection

[@GuamPhotoLife]

Thanks! that worked! Don't know what happened, lol!@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

[@smartti1970]

what would be the equivalent for leica M ?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Sadly nothing as the only M-M adapter you can use is macro

[@smartti1970]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks very much for your reply :-)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@smartti1970 👍🏻

[@unbroken1010]

Are you still liking your cl? They getting way cheaper. I'm thinking about for street , doc. And portraits

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi yes! Currently side tracked by the Lumix S5 as it's FF but as soon as I need a small camera I will be back to the CL!

[@philipagussoegito691]

Can it focus to infinity ?

[@vrubelontube]

I have this adapter, and yes it can if you have it in its normal position, not extended.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes it seems to ok - you only get close focus when you turn it.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@vrubelontube thanks for confirming! One viewer said theirs couldn’t but mine works ok.

[@MartinScore16]

I can't get infinity in focus with my 7artisans LM-E close focus ring... :(

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Sorry to hear. Mine seems to work, I will check again in daylight with a few different lenses.

[@tomislavmiletic_]

In contrast to the Leica CL, Fuji cameras don't have that problem when zooming in for focusing; it will work with every single lens I put on my cameras via push-in wheel button on the back of the camera. Just saying... That being said, why don't you use focus peeking?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I’ve been spoilt by the 2 step zoom where I can see every eye lash to focus on.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks for Fuji info!

[@williaminbody205]

Are you on a Life breakfast cereal ad?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Haha I live on cereal but I’m no model or actor so definitely not on an ad ha :)

[@williaminbody205]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Well, your identical twin is on Life cereal ads in USA. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZu1enqZbNSXhZo

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@williaminbody205 ha thanks for sharing!

[@eagleeyephoto8715]

The issue is poor Leica CL zoom implementation and not adapter.On Fujifilm the magnification button works no meter which adapter one use.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, another Fuji shooter just said the same. I still like the CL despite its flaws.

[@eagleeyephoto8715]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yep CL is a very nice imaging device especially paired with Leica M lenses.To my opinion it is the best combo outside of Leica M itself, due to couple of known issues which most of other FF camera have with adapted Leica lenses.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@eagleeyephoto8715 thanks, yes I never planned to like the CL. It was supposed to be a backup body for weddings.. and I’ve used it ever since it arrived!

[@andreitelenkov5775]

That must be a software bug, zoom is camera's function in this case, lens is not aware of it, communication between camera and lens is not required.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Andrei, the adapters work differently but both work ok now.

[@Jim-gr2xc]

Been using the $30 Hoage version of this on my Sony A7. Rangefinders make no sense anymore.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes the mirrorless cameras like the CL do make things extremely easy! (The same as Sony and Fuji I guess).

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

Bummer it's the same price in £. It makes it not that cheap.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Chris, yes cheap verses Leica but expensive vs most other adapters sadly.

[@pinkeye00]

So basically .... the fudged the programming.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Possibly! :)