Starfield vs Fallout 4 - Details and Physics Comparison

[@GameLight]

I had to remove a portion of the video due to KZbin's age restriction policy. Specifically, the "Gore" segment was edited out. Starfield had less violence compared to Fallout 4.

[@evgenyyurichev]

great work!

[@GameLight]

@@evgenyyurichev Thank you friend 👍

[@fairyclssh1576]

fallout 4 is better and never change .Starfield look like 5$ games

[@noenken]

This makes me almost curious about Starfield vs Fallout 3.

[@wolverine1981pl]

clearly starfield has Less of everything. shame

[@zoe6174]

Starfield having absolutely no animation from when you jump from height into water was honestly ridiculous to see...

[@jonahulichny9874]

I suspect that Bethesda didn’t add that because water isn’t as present in fallout 4, which takes place on the coast. I admittedly haven’t played star field so take this with a grain of salt. Not trying to justify it in any way, frankly the fact this happened at all is ridiculous, but it at least explains why it happened

[@mikehatten5738]

Actually it’s like that because you can’t go underwater. It wouldn’t make sense for your character to go under from the fall but not able to on his/her own so they cut it completely that was if you’re in 1st person you don’t see that

[@Kyle-nm1kh]

Its for stealth reasons

[@astronomicalant]

I used a power on Neon and on one of the disciples and they floated off the map and fell into the water, so I had to jump down there to kill ‘em but that’s when I noticed the water issue 🥲

[@OffTheRailGaming]

I'm pretty sure you single handedly caused the "most replayed" section on this video.

[@kerobop]

im not frustrated with the lack of polish more than i am confused on why they couldn't include things that they clearly were capable of doing before

[@woodchuck83]

This right here, no one seems to get it. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, cause barely anyone brings this up.

[@ServantofAnubis007]

Because Gamebryo. Gamebryo never changes

[@Kyle-nm1kh]

What are you referring to?

[@woodchuck83]

@@Kyle-nm1kh underwater swimming, dismemberment of enemies (guts, gore, and blood), nudity, branching story elements based off choices, seamless non load screen travel/exploration, those are just a few I could think of off the top of my head.

[@IIIIIIIIIIII000]

@@woodchuck83Laziness. Game developers are not the same anymore and everyone should be skeptical about buying games from day 1.

[@bastabey2652]

this is so bizarre that Fallout 4 physics competes or exceeds Starfield physics

[@rmay16]

@@koolthing2135theyre pretty much neck n neck, edge to fo4 honestly…😂🥱

[@user-vn6ki6gs8w]

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[@Meracog]

​You're right, Fallout 4 actually better in a lot of respects. ​@@koolthing2135

[@rodneylane5455]

@@koolthing2135did you even watch the video?

[@Will-qm1id]

most modern games don't have better physics engines than gta3 or half life 2. many have worse. it's more about bigger maps and better graphics.

[@Sagninaw]

Surprisingly fallout 4 on max settings still look pretty good in today's era of graphics

[@1vaultdweller]

Nah it doesnt look good in comparison to other modern games. Starfield is barely an improvement over F4 thats why

[@harrasika]

It's the artstyle. Even Oblivion looks good today imo (except the faces). Their games have always been artstyle over graphics.

[@raulsalazar05]

It does, even you can install unofficial HD retextures pack@@1vaultdweller

[@dsheep9937]

Starfield is Fallout with nextgen texture pack.

[@PsycosisIncarnated]

@@1vaultdwellernice cope buddy 🤡

[@TheMostOrdinaryMan]

I miss fallout's gore system

[@STRYKER1467]

everyone misses this i expected it to be in the game due to the PEGI 18 rating.

[@watari6346]

Luckily mods are a thing

[@TheMostOrdinaryMan]

@@STRYKER1467 There's a couple missions with people turned into skeletons but that's about it. Even if it was just the jetpack explosion blowing them to bits, that would be great.

[@ezenatiello2017]

Something must have hapenned because on the trailers you could even see gore in what looked like an Argos extractors accident with the cutter, Also when they show one of the shotguns there was gore, i don't know why they didn't ask Todd this the other day

[@Youkai_graphics]

to me, gore in fallout is an artistic choice, unlike in skyrim and starfield, fallout is pretty much set in a lawless, brutal world, its either you or him, killing and murdering, canabalism, anything that is evil have no consequences. Thus having gore is a good choice and common. meanwhile Skyrim, Starfield, they are not a lawless world, You have civillization, different culture, you are just exploring rather than trying to survive. So not having gore does kinda make sense. but im certain after a while, you will get shit ton of mods, gore mod, complete planet that is fallout, hell maybe even nirn will be modded in

[@Landscape_]

Starfield has interiors and object detail looking next gen but then you land on a planet and its shiny dirt

[@ashtondillard6906]

I find planets to be inconsistent. I once visited a moon that ACTUALLY looked like photo realistic with the distant sun and long shadows. I was in awh. But then I went showy planet and looks like special edition skyrim lol. This happens all over the game, some planets and environments look breathtaking and some look like Skyrim or Fallout or even worse. Regardless as a whole I’m still pretty impressed with what they were able to accomplish with starfield.

[@yasirugimhan5841]

Next gen ??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sozkev9762]

4k texture doesn’t mean "Next Gen" lol

[@ashtondillard6906]

@@sozkev9762 idk bro the game looks pretty “next gen” a lot of the time on Xbox series x. My only real complaints are the flickering and Aliasing along with 30fps. The actual environments looks really gorgeous .

[@cliverosfield69]

​@@ashtondillard6906lol no,it doesn't

[@evanpaluch6190]

Fallout 4 looks better in a lot of ways surprisingly

[@GameLight]

Yeah, maybe the helmet is the cause of the haziness in Starfield, but it seems that even without a helmet, Fallout 4 looks better in many aspects.

[@ChrisLitton]

And will likely run better

[@osamaKareem2]

​@@ChrisLittonnah it's actually the opposite just player it on my Xbox fallout 4 crashes every 39 mins or everytimes when big kaboom happen other the other hand starfield only the frame drops but comes back fast

[@Flyeaglesfly215]

I love fallout 4 but I do think starfield is better, the game will be next level In a year

[@paybacksuper3670]

@@ChrisLitton yeah try explore downtown boston. XD

[@YellowBriefs]

The water in Starfield is embarrassing

[@geraldwiedemann2126]

yeah but who cares 😂 aint no way a person would spend hours shooting the water.

[@chummygun]

​​@@geraldwiedemann2126todd somehow compared it to rdr2 lmao

[@marcm2277]

@@geraldwiedemann2126 it's embarrassing to even look at the water, let alone to shoot at or swim through it. Not that I think water looks particularly good in any Bethesda game, but in this game it seems like a direct downgrade from fo4 (and even Skyrim had better splashing imo). It's about attention to detail and having an interactive environment, not whether the player spends hours doing it.... Like I don't spend hours shooting at walls either, but I still like to see a bullet hole appear when I do shoot a wall. It's fine if your standards don't require that attention to detail to enjoy the game; but that lack of detail stacks up to be an unimpressive release. It's attention to detail that creates immersive world spaces, and this game is missing a lot of attention to detail that prior BGS games had.

[@thecasualreviewer2148]

really is

[@Rude_Boi]

​@@geraldwiedemann2126That's not the point. Man, you gamers are idiots smh

[@N13M0]

Apparently Todd's priority was the physics of potatoes and sandwiches in large piles! What blows my mind is that they could make a great game on the old engines, and people would play and love them! Everything has to be MORE BIGGER FASTER! The top priority seems to be getting people to buy new hardware, apparently Bethesda has a stake in that...

[@harrasika]

But they did make a great game on the "old" engine and all people do is shit on it for being "bugthesda" and say that they should just use UE5 instesd

[@fallingintime]

Issue is more with the designers rather than the engine imo. (look at new Vegas or mods)

[@decadence_7075]

It is not great dude, is good in maximum capacity @@harrasika

[@ThatOneGuyFromSchool]

It's the same engine

[@iiangmariiomega2639]

Fallout 4 is a very small game. Starfield is Like 1000X bigger than every Games From Bethesda combined. Of course they needed other priorities

[@jamesongreene8051]

My god, they took a giant leap BACKWARDS!

[@techno_otaku]

I'm just happy Dogmeat wasn't hurt during the explosives section

[@impsalazarth9286]

Water in Starfield was certainly an afterthought. they just put a no to interacting with it past surface swimming.

[@saturnalien_5291]

The water come from Oblivion

[@نونيم-ي4ح]

I played bethesda games back to back before starfield releases and starfield made me realize how amazing the open world exploration was in fallout 4, from the incredible environments to the amazing sense of discovery the open world of fallout 4 was one of bethesda's best, Starfields open world is by far their weakest imo and it really feels pointless outside of questing, the 1000 planets is definitely the wrong call and it harmed the game in the long run.

[@akcsamiru]

but it didnt. walking in open worlds is so fun but its because its a land area not a whole planet or solar system.😂 I bet it would be boring to travel for hours.

[@nicholasgronewold3217]

Lol here comes the nostalgia biased videos/comments. First fallout 4 was trash now its the best game ever.

[@victor.n8460]

​@@nicholasgronewold3217first bethesda before I made good games and starfield is at the level of Fallout 76 console war

[@CaptainMudDonk]

Fallout New Vegas is best.

[@KalEl7802]

I think bethesda add those 1000 worlds in because their trying to set this game up to be the next minecraft. The thing is that only works if your game engine isn't janky.

[@heathyarbrough4386]

It blows my mind how Starfield is not only missing features you would expect like AI reactivity to being aimed at and gunfire, but features that they have implemented in multiple of their own games from years ago… this bothers me more than anything else in this game

[@yewtewbstew547]

Yeah. I've been noticing a trend of reduced environmental interactivity in games for years now. It's not just Bethesda, it's most of the industry, but particularly in the AAA space. In Fallout 3 (and by extension New Vegas) NPC's react to having a gun pointed at them or one being fired near them. Even in Skyrim NPCs will react to you having a weapon drawn or spell ready, and guards will confront you verbally if you cast spells in a town. So like you say, we know they _can_ do this stuff. They're just cutting corners.

[@_EllieLOL_]

Especially since it’s the same engine too, and modders have used the FO4 creation kit to mod starfield so it hasn’t changed much if at all, which means even if they didn’t want to spend time remaking it they could just paste it in from their old games

[@chrisstucker1813]

Yeah it’s clear to see why Starfield was delayed…it still looks rough so god know what it would’ve been like without the delay

[@marshallromney2064]

I’m worried about elder scrolls 6 now :/

[@DiegoSynth]

I think Starfield development started ages ago, even before Fallout 4, that may explain why it's so shitty, and worse than Fallout 4. Elders Scrolls 6 on the other hand, would be newer. I wouldn't expect a huge improvement anyway, considering they are using the same engine.

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

Most sensible people were worried about Fallout 4 before it came out. You are VERY late to the party

[@vadim6656]

Elder scrolls 6 is going to be dumpster fire by the looks of how starfield is. The creative engine 2.0 is massively outdated and unoptimized.

[@sweet.chickens]

I was concerned with the Elder Scrolls series after seeing how Skyrim turned out. Graphically, each one has improved. But each title that comes out loses more and more of the soul of the series.

[@Slymarbo-b5f]

If you want to play a good RPG wait for Gothic remake, it will be ready in late 2024. It would much better then tes 6

[@ezrablake1234]

I remember how i had so many complaints for Fallout 4 when it first came out. Still, i won’t change my opinion as i believe it really leaves many things to be desired but Starfield made me appreciate everything I missed about good BGS style adventure experience. And the game ran well with my then old and reliable GTX 750ti with graphics settings tweaked to high whereas Starfield never seems to stop tormenting my poor RTX2070super for eternity.

[@Fucklesticks]

If it makes you feel better, Starfield's prehistoric engine runs like ass even on the best GPU and CPU combo on the market today.

[@cuba317]

@@Fucklesticks thats why we shouldnt care or run for the new GPU. There are SO MUCH better running and looking games out there

[@cuba317]

And i played F4 on GTX 750 2GB (non ti) and i worked pretty good ! Not on lowest for sure

[@williams00]

@@Fucklesticks They created Creation Engine 2. It's not running on a prehistoric engine

[@Fucklesticks]

@@williams00 Looks worse than Fo4 😂

[@neckminute3802]

If you're a game developer, you gotta understand how important it is to have realistic water and fix any visual bugs. Even though they don't affect the gameplay directly, most gamers really care about those details. It's all about creating a better overall experience, you know?

[@VolaticWolf]

Nah, that tells me that most gamers are just too focused on graphics. The gameplay is the important factor, not some water details that you'll only look at once for a few seconds and then go back to doing side quests or whatever. It's appreciated, but not a damn necessity. When something like Starfield is an insanely massive game, some things (like water details) are expected to be less prioritized cuz they hardly matter which brings a massive issue in this industry. Game devs prioritize graphics & details over gameplay so they can generate more sales.

[@ProjectMoff]

Bullshit. The only important thing is the content people are playing your game for. Starfield has that content, if you’re complaining that the water doesn’t splash in the way you want it to then why the fuck did you buy the game? To play it or to do random shit like this for no reason? The detail went into the lore, the stories and the settlements, the important places, why bother wasting development efforts on things that people will barely see. The funny thing is Fallout 4 barely had enough content compared to other BGS games, because they changed their focus, Starfield has way more stuff to do, way more interesting side quests, but no you’d have preferred them to take focus from there and instead make the water splash more….. Absolutely ridiculous…

[@sarychevmaxim907]

@@VolaticWolf LOL, starfield's cost 700m dollars, and they haven't make a realistic water. AAAAAND

[@VolaticWolf]

@@sarychevmaxim907 the cost of how much a game takes to develop doesn't mean it will have the most realistic water. Sometimes graphics aren't the most important thing in the games industry? Not all developers perhaps are focused on making the best graphics? Have a think about that

[@VolaticWolf]

@zKingsKiller Well that's how you feel and not how I feel. Personally, I buy the game for the gameplay. I personally don't think that water quality ruins my experience. Sure a better water quality would be appreciated, but I'm also fine without it. Stunning and next generation graphics are not just simply important to me. Used to be, but not anymore

[@jcrossan1351]

Starfield still has the same grenade pin sound as fallout 4 that’s hilarious

[@Chris-jt4pl]

The scanner is the same as the pip boy. Pretty much all sounds are the same

[@nikto7297]

If it ain't broke don't fix it....well they should fix something else in the game anyway

[@kabakcigdemi]

Like Fallout has the same lockpick system and sound with Skyrim

[@Yuniliel]

How studios take more time to make games and make it feel like a poor version of another game is incredible, a lot of FXs missing and physics, feel so lifeless even on a planet with "unreactable" ppl.

[@THIZZ0IN0PEACE]

Not only took longer but cost more. Fallout 4 cost 150 million to make and was developed in 7 years.

[@lmeza1983]

I guess they try to improve graphics at the cost of reducing existing features (performance issues), I don't understand why most gamers seem to prefer better graphics and lighting over a fun and rich gameplay... However lately games dont even have top notch graphics or polished gameplay features.

[@THIZZ0IN0PEACE]

@@lmeza1983 I agree and I believe this is partially the fault of their engine as well. Fun and rich is subjective but Bethesda games in true nature do not allow you to shoulder swap for whatever reason or provide a FOV slider. Basic functions that a massive company like Bethesda shouldn't struggle with, yet do somehow. This is objectively bad and lazy especially for a major company like Bethesda. Plenty of games were released this year (2023) that provide A1 graphics and optimization to their already addictive gameplay and are no where near the size of Bethesda studios. Gunfire games (Remnant II) Larian Studios (Baldurs Gate 3) Mundfish (Atomic Heart). just to name a few AAA studios need to stop getting slack for the slop they are throwing out when the under dogs are out here not only outperforming but undercharging. A trend we should be supporting instead of this copy + paste method from bigger studios or worse, "early access".

[@Dushess]

Enjoy the AAAA experience

[@TheBigSheepS]

Grenades floating on water is hilarious!😂

[@JayTsPhoto]

Playing Starfield just makes me want to play no mans sky. The gun play in starfield is much better but having to navigate thru menus to pretty much do anything is annoying.

[@GameLight]

The game is good if you do not spend 70 dollars like me for early access

[@JayTsPhoto]

@GameLight unfortunately I bought the premium edition and I played too much to get a refund

[@GameLight]

@@JayTsPhoto I understand you perfectly, I have a Game Pass for a year, but I had to buy it to shoot a video.

[@JayTsPhoto]

@GameLight undate: I told steam that this game should be called loading screen simulator and they gave me all $105 back

[@GameLight]

@@JayTsPhoto 🤣 Happy for you friend, there are people who played 30 hours and were able to return the money. I'll take a look too 😉

[@bacon3dwaffles708]

The Bethesda community really turning into the cod community soon enough people are going to be saying how fallout 76 wasn't so bad.

[@Just-A-Clown111]

i swear to god the game had a massive improvement. also one of the nicest comunities.

[@cinifiend]

@@Just-A-Clown111 The game is improved now, but that doesn't change the fact that Bethesda released an absolute turd for nothing but a cash grab. If they really cared they would have delayed the game until it was properly finished, but they choose to scam their customers. Still don't understand why anyone would fanboy for Bethesda at this point, you'd have to have rocks in your head.

[@Lizardman9808]

@@Just-A-Clown111 That's like saying I got hit to the head by the waiter in a restaurant with a baseball bat but he brought me nice meal afterwards.

[@Jonny.Jr.Jay.Junior]

You KNOW that very day SOMEONE will say "Fallout 76 Was Much Better" THAT! That right there is when we all know the gaming industry has fallen The only Strong title game that makes waves is DOOM right now. Imagine Fallout 5 with THAT type of gore!? It would almost be unmatched 😂

[@Jonny.Jr.Jay.Junior]

​@@Lizardman9808Patch Update lol 😆 Fresh fries are DLC

[@РРА-г9с]

По поводу нулевой реакции на выстрел в старфилде, по их лицам видно что они видели ВСЁ в этом космосе, и их уже ничего не испугает.

[@SaadSuleman]

Bethesda games have historically been heavily dependent on players imagination rather than solid gameplay and mechanics. When I first played Skyrim I was in shock about how poor the basic animations and textures looked, let alone the bugs and poor optimisation. Starfield was delayed by a year as Microsoft insisted on smoothing out bugs and making the game playable. Imagine this game without all that. Sure they support mods but that's not their get out of jail free card.

[@heavydynamics8128]

STFU with the excuses for them making an incomplete game!

[@shadowmonk9672]

@@heavydynamics8128 he literally said "that's not their get out of jail free card" and he complained about how janky Skyrim was. I don't think this guys defending anything lmao calm your tits

[@jamesmeldrum4563]

@@heavydynamics8128 learn to read.

[@sweet.chickens]

@@jamesmeldrum4563 Reading is too scary. He saw lots of words and got angry.

[@alexisdigital2980]

@@sweet.chickens damn you really roasted this angry guy xD

[@charlyb.9406]

fallout 4 seems awesome in this comparison. i confirm modded it looks even more superior! i wasn't aware of this step backwards in starfield phyics. why is water and character appearence so underwhelming in Starfield ? ac odyssey (2018) and RDR2 water and characters look so much better playing obviously in a complete other league with their games...

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

1:53 Grandma:"I'm not impressed, young man!" 🤣

[@schnitzel_enjoyer]

You know you can jump while swimming in starfield, its hilarious

[@BYOH4Z4RD]

You can do that in Fallout 4 too

[@mourningstar2000]

​@@BYOH4Z4RDskyrim and oblivion too

[@SuperAwesomeWeirdGuy]

I'm impressed that Bethesda was finally able to improve geometry and LOD/textures after eight years, but it really came at the expense of performance, especially on the low/mid range. You can hardly even get playable frame rates with MODERN low end GPUs even on the lowest settings, and last gen card performance a total joke. Even the 3090 can't even play at 4K with 24GB of VRAM without heavy upscaling... Good ol' Bethesda, we can always count on them to get Consoles to barely 30fps and to leave fixing their PC versions to modders.

[@PsycosisIncarnated]

Its called optimization. Which they fail to do.

[@Blox117]

who's laughing now

[@jasonzacharias2150]

Guys... they ripped off everyone with fallout 76 and kinda blamed starfield. The fact that we are even making a comparison to the shorted but decent fallout 4 says it all..... video games are just a cash and time grab at this point

[@amanonyoutube9591]

I feel like fallout looks simple and its like a blank page of a character which results in timeless creativity for the player, while starfeild is another character that feels like your imagination is limited to an uncustomisable character

[@SniperRifleSc0pe]

i cant wait for people to backport all the cool new animations from starfield into F4 lmao

[@happycompy]

Same

[@DoodleBob38]

You think they will!? God I hope so.. it'll make F4 leagues better

[@bristleback3614]

it still amaze me that old gun like m1911 and ak47 outlived the earth itself in starfield

[@Dushess]

There's no such thing as 47,it is later version.

[@Mj22264]

Its like modern games are becoming downgrades with 30 x the GB install & 50 x the waiting on development of the game lol

[@i.d.6492]

Starfield has no destruction what's so ever, I do like however a gun reload animations

[@vadim6656]

too bad the firing animation is repeated without variations. looks so dumb

[@LukeWoodz]

thank you star field for making me go back and playthrough fallout 4 again so i can experience a real game

[@Latviešu_Amēlija]

I played the main story. Screwed around for abit did some side missions, got bored and then deleted it lol😂 Meanwhile all the fallouts, and skyrim I played for weeks when they came out, without getting bored. And I still go back to them

[@Squnchmo]

Starfields gun animations are mad nice

[@vadim6656]

LOL you gotta be kidding

[@Otxtrapz7]

There def an improvement

[@ps3guy22]

Not to mention the sounds. SFX team went crazy

[@sonderbain]

Agree, the gunplay is definately a big improvement to the fo4 mess

[@Squnchmo]

@@sonderbain I think the gunplay in FO4 was decent, just the gun animations were kinda ugly and boring. And most of the guns were downright hideous.

[@steveo0127]

What’s funny is that when tell people star field is a 7/10 they get mad 😂

[@NeonVars]

I extensively played Starfield and theres no f**kin way its a 7/10, easily 9/10 at the minimum you loser! Lol but seriously, 7/10 is nothing to get upset about. That's a pretty decent score coming from someone that's got over 200 hours in it.

[@Dank-Ewok]

I know your comments is old but! That’s crazy 😭 7/10 is still good

[@Eladdan]

This is what happens when you try and keep using the same game engine for over 20 years.

[@lesterbronson2385]

Fallout 4 takes the cake without a doubt. Starfield looks dull on most fronts. The procedurally generated planets look so boring and you can’t even explore whole planets at that!

[@Artemyst]

I think the reason they didn't pay much attention to water physics is because aside from New Atlantis and maybe paradiso, water just doesn't have much of a presence throughout the majority of the game, where as Fallout 4 contains a lot of water, as it's located by the coast and even has a whole DLC about a harbor Also idk about you guys but if I was flying a spaceship that was built with combat in mind I would hope that the glass didn't crack when shot.

[@jetri_co]

sure, but I hope my armor penetrating rounds would at least crack a display case... /s

[@loyalopposition-us]

Starfield; 7+ years in the making and my modded Fallout 4 game looks better. Bethesda this is a disgrace.

[@loppy6481]

Starfield felt 20 years behind even Fallout 3. What a joke.

[@ridongsridongs3183]

I only came to conclusion that the game engine is not the main problem but the dedication of game developers that are making the games. Just take for example Rockstar's RAGE engine, first time it was used to make a table tenis game, and now when you play Red Dead Redemption 2 and see how far did they went with it, it's really impressive. Or CAPCOM's RE:Engine that was 1st time used on making Resident Evil 7(which was a linear game) and slowly being improved to the point that now it hundles open world games like Monster Hunter - Rise and Dragons Dogma 2. Titanfall 2 was made on Source Engine 1. Back in 15 years ago people were laughing at Unity, and now the majority of best ever looking mobile games were made on Unity (sure their recent policy is shit, tough 😅), but I think you got my point.

[@bdleo300]

Yep, it's (not) just the engine, look what modders did with Skyrim, mods transformed into totally different game. Bethesda is just lazy. Even in Skyrim and Oblivion NPCs had daily routines (something that even Gothic2 had, not to mention games like KCD): go to work ->go eat -> go sleep etc etc while in Starfield most named NPCs just stand in one place 24/7 with 1 or 2 idler animation (sweeping the floor with a 'space' broom). It's not stagnation, it's regression.

[@Bigdaddymittens]

Dedication? Yeah, the devs of RDR2/GTA Vlost lots of sleep and the crunch impacted their personal lives immensely. Rockstar also had like 1500 people working on their new games too. Bethesda is substantially smaller, and you almost never hear about their working conditions being poor. The engine situation is definitely the problem, but if you switch to unreal, the performance likely takes a massive hit. Bethesda's engines are incredibly unique in how they handle their worlds.

[@user-is9nm4vw8j]

16x the disappointment

[@FalloutboyLetsPlays]

So fallout 4 a 2015 game is better then starfield 2023 game graphics and technic wise

[@Khajiit-f1v]

You should buy your self a pair of glasses

[@elotkarloketh166]

It makes me want to go back to 2010, how creative realistic detailed wonderful games used to be

[@EQOAnostalgia]

I genuinely think last gen looked better, and it runs better too lol. Games have lost their style. Devs seem to think highest polycount wins. Fk outta here. Odinsphere on PS2 is a prettier game stylistically speaking than anything to come out the past year imo.

[@itsyoboisus2848]

They didn't even try to swap the grenade key sounds.

[@justinbutler591]

I never had that green bar when throwing grenades in fallout 4. Idk if thats a perk but wouldnt it have made more sense to use footage without that perk. Cuz honestly the grenade throwing motion and sound is exactly the same in both games.

[@Aguy522]

The green bar is on the second rank of demolition expert

[@Just-A-Clown111]

its a mod

[@blackdoc6320]

As far as textures and models go I think starfield really blows fallout 4 completely out of the water no comparison. Lighting too, I can't stand seeing a lot of the comments about starfield saying it looks like fallout 4 graphics. Have you guys played fallout 4? Everything looks like its made out of cheap plastic and the lighting is horendously sharp.

[@nawack2774]

In Starfield it also seems like everything is made of plastic... And there are quite a few times where the light is very poorly managed and the effects are absent, it gives even more of this impression of superficiality and it's not credible

[@harrasika]

​@@nawack2774I feel the plastic argument in Starfield only applies to New Atlantis. Futuristic clean cities in gaming always manage to look like plastic.

[@Just-A-Clown111]

thats not true fallout 4 looks great, and also consider we are comparing 2015 vs 2023, theres an 8 YEAR GAP

[@blackdoc6320]

@@Just-A-Clown111 and fallout 4 looks like a 2008 game

[@J.B.1982]

You can mod the textures and lighting for Fallout 4 and it looks similar to Starfield. Not *quite* as good but it's damn close, which says a lot.

[@Zargex]

To me Fallout 4 is a master piece

[@stadce]

RDR2 was a masterpiece. FO4 is a good game, but was outdated the day it released just like Starfield

[@Zargex]

@@stadce To me

[@stadce]

@@Zargex Did you even play FO3 or FO:NV? or for that matter Oblivion or Skyrim? Bethesda games just keep getting worse, not better

[@TheOldCSK]

I’m entirely mind boggled how the same exact company that made Fallout 4 in 2015 made a game in 2023 that has significantly less detail and walks completely backwards to what they did OVER 10 YEARS PRIOR. Fucking embarrassing.

[@nikerailfanningttm9046]

0:52 Fallout 4 Explosions: PERFECTION 0:31 Starfield explosions: *[Water_Physics.exe has stopped working]…[Fire.exe has stopped working]*

[@Irokersyka]

I played Starfield for 2 hours, went on to go through Fallout 4 :D

[@Badookum]

If you somehow find fetch quests entertaining then Fallout 4 is a great game yeah.

[@Irokersyka]

@@Badookum Well, in general, I meant that in comparison with Starfield, Fallout 4 is not such a bad game, although there are enough good quests in F4.

[@alpagliari]

Me too!

[@Irokersyka]

@@alpagliari :)

[@mariop8101]

Not buying it until it's 20€. Morrowind I got 2 CD offer with a GPU at the time, Oblivion had a perfectly working DVD copy without cracks, only bought it later at 3 €, same for all the games, the most expensive was Fallout 76 and ESO 10€ both the worst games they made.

[@charleshorseman55]

So basically we probably have about 20 updates to go before the real Starfield game comes out. I seem to recall that collisions and water physics were pretty borked when FO4 first came out too.

[@MartinKarov-l8o]

I'm saddened to see how games have evolved over time. In the past, games like Half-Life captivated players, not just with fancy graphics, but with their meticulous attention to detail. Nowadays, it seems that everything is solely designed to turn a profit, lacking the passion and dedication we once witnessed in the gaming industry. It's disheartening to witness this shift away from what made gaming so special.

[@gloomy3789]

Just like Doctor Paradox from 2077 would say “A rusty car with a fresh coat of paint, dog shit spritzed with perfume”

[@Greysquirrel98]

Game developers are becoming too comfortable releasing unfinished games. It’s because they know they can finish it later through updates.

[@Klassikhuhn]

Ill wait 2-3 years before even thinking about buying starfield.

[@vadim6656]

ill probably just pirate it....

[@chronolynx360]

​@@vadim6656same here. I don't need to spend money. 😂

[@vadim6656]

@@chronolynx360 see you on the high seas captain!

[@tochiemmanuel1750]

Crazy how shooting a gun in Gta san andreas scares people but a game of 2023 hasn't got this. Crazy time we live in

[@impairedtrout6917]

Gta San Andreas doesn't have entire systems to explore and multiple planets

[@JuanPoncedeLeon_]

empty planets@@impairedtrout6917

[@narloth]

​@@impairedtrout6917That's a poor excuse 😅

[@The_MEMEphis]

​@@impairedtrout6917too bad it's just a bunch of small square procedurally generated landscapes with all repetitive content

[@cookiez_ad]

I really wish Starfield didn't fail and have an unbearably generic story - I really want a good space story game...

[@User-s9r7x]

one day 😣

[@Razipazi77]

Maybe try the outer worlds? It's decent I'd say

[@apotomus5116]

​@@Razipazi77 gameplay is hollow and boring. Story is decent.

[@ezg8448]

Looks like that 16X detail from the Fallout 76 era was removed.

[@Luksord]

I have the feeling that Bethesda only make their games half-finished and then let the community fix them through the mods. Aaand then don't even bother use these to make their next game better. How the heck so many older titles are better looking and functioning than theirs. Just look at the CP2077 that come out horrible at launch but was later fixed and was even then diamond in the rough, and by a studio that never did similar game. There is really little differences between Bethesda games like they only built little on top of what they already have with a fresh coat of paint. Sad, because these games have one of the biggest and best modding communities. I really love fallout series and it pains me seeing is potential wasted.

[@twiska1402]

You can compare Starfield with Fallout 4, no mods, and FO4 still most of the time on par or better in visuals and physics. And they are 8 years apart.

[@retierashia]

Maybe I’ve taken Fallout 4 for granted. I won’t know until I get my hands on Starfield though. Which’ll be tomorrow on Game Pass.

[@shadowmonk9672]

yeah I spent the last month modding fallout 4 and then playing a bit in anticipation of Starfield but I was so disappointed that I'm already back in the Commonwealth lol

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

There's no taking Fallout 4 for granted, and I don't mean that positively

[@vadim6656]

i already cancelled my gamepass after trying starfield. Game is a total joke and unoptimized....oh well at least cp77 expansion is coming in a few weeks.

[@hoodironyyy]

Starfield has actual RPG mechanics. Fallout 4 does not.

[@justinbutler591]

The one really immersion breaking thing in starfeild is the fact that nothing breaks or gets damaged when you shoot it. Took them 7 years to make this game and they couldnt make it so incindiary grenades set trees, bushes, tall grass, and other brush on fire. I mean those mechanics are in far cry 3 which came out in 2012. Dnt get me wrong starfeild amazing it just urkes me something so little and simple as that isnt in the game when it makes such a huge difference. Its not hard to do and would greatly improve immersion. They add all these feutures but havent even implimented some basic ones. I also find it kinda obsurd theres no ground vehicles or at least that you cant drive any. Basic driving mechanics would not have been difficult to add. Could be one of the easiest mods to make. They couldve had lunar rovers or their own NASA Punk rovers at outposts and locations on planets you land on. It wouldve fit in perfectly with their theme. Really felt like thats missing. And like such an obvious thing to add which makes it really rediculous that they arent in the game. The only reason im this passionate and get this irritated is because i love the game so dnt misunderstand me. Its frustating when they make something so good but could be drastically better with just acouple slight additons. It really baffles me how this stuff didnt go thru the whole teams heads all these years theyve been making it.

[@elektrosmokes1911]

But Starfield ISN'T amazing. At all.

[@justinbutler591]

@elektrosmokes1911 I'd love to hear your critiques, I'm not being sarcastic either I'm serious. I'd rate the game probably about an 8/10. Which is good, but comparatively to skyrim or fallout 3 is a huge drop. I definelty wouldn't say fhe game isn't worth playing though, would you?

[@elektrosmokes1911]

@@justinbutler591 There's no depth here, Justin. I'm 50 hours in, and the only thing keeping me going is the fact that I'm starved for the good old Bethesda RPG gameplay loop. Does this world really seem alive to you? With mindless, UGLY "citizens" stumbling all over the place with wild eyes? With places of interest being direct copies of one another? A LOW level of environmental interactivity doesn't help. You described a dead world well with your comment, yet you go on to rate the game 8 out of 10? Just what are you seeing to justify an 8 out of 10? I'm not seeing anything close to that, In fact, I would almost guarantee that this universe doesn't have legs, even with mods. Wait. There's one group who has been OUTSPOKEN with their support for this game... Are you an unapologetically woke gen-z by chance?

[@justinbutler591]

@elektrosmokes1911 haha I'm sure if I was I'd have game the game a higher score. In comparison to bethesdas other games an 8 from me isn't that good. I'd give skyrim a 9.6 and fallout 3 a 9.3. But then if we look at obsidians fallout nv that's a 9.9 to me. Idk I haven't touched alot of what's in the game yet so I can't really definitively say how good I think it is. But based off my experience so far I'd say 8 just cuz its entertaining enough. I wouldnt play anything less than a 7/10. I do have quite alot of critiques. Idk a whole point of my current rating is basically just because my brother told me he's been having such a blast with the crimson fleet campaign and he's usually not wrong about things. I do agree with the npc faces tho, I'd prefer the faces from fallout 4 or even their earlier titles. But ive heard some people like it, or it grows on em. It's definitely not a spiritual successor to their previous works but I think needs to be looked at as something new. But I really have to do all the main content before forming a full conclusion on the game.

[@weaboosama6706]

No way starfield was in full development for 7 even 5 years. I'd say more like three. I think there was a lot of difficulties mid development that we will hear about in time.

[@shadow-8292]

omg the water shooting and explosive blast effects just blew my mind apart.

[@BenHeckHacks]

5:32 if your semi or full auto gun isn't empty when you reload, you don't have to re-cock it. Have these devs ever held a real gun? Doubtful.

[@Meracog]

Fallout 4 is infinitely more fun imo.

[@fitzgerald434]

Starfield is a let down, I'll finish the game but I don't think I'll play it anytime soon after I complete it

[@Drstrange3000]

25 years in the making my @ss. Starfield has been the game where I understand the "Tell me sweet little lies meme." There are so many games from last gen that seem more impressive than Starfield. Oddly enough, it seems to require much more power for so little yields and seems stuck in the past in both engine and game design. They actually regressed in some ways.

[@hoodironyyy]

They haven't been actually developing it for 25 years. They just wanted to make it for that long. It's a marketing thing

[@Drstrange3000]

@@hoodironyyy I mostly figured.

[@КонрадКерз-щ9у]

People: *making mods for Starfield* Todd Howard:We are releasing a Special Edition!

[@itslife1399]

idk how people still support Bethesda when they're releasing half fast games consistently.

[@jasperfox6821]

I couldn't care less if a game looks "next gen" but i will say fallout 4 looks alot better. But i really love starfields artstyle, its grounded in realism, that many space games miss out on.

[@MDO_666]

Have you played starfields main questline…

[@jonahulichny9874]

@@MDO_666 art style, not story.

[@chikirin9349]

​@@MDO_666read the comment slowly, try to understand the words

[@tallll70]

They don't just cut scenes, they cut corners too 😳🙂

[@richlandgames3164]

Good video , please make starfield vs no man's sky in the future

[@GameLight]

Definitely, a couple more videos will be released related to Starfield 😌

[@denissal3856]

Starfield could be used as an example of the definition of the word DEGRADATION.

[@ANUBIS_06_0]

Visually, Starfield is Bethesda's best game. But, for ALL the rest... Fallout 3 and 4 plus Skyrim and Oblivion wins without any doubt. This, was the golden era.

[@vincentliou3746]

I knew it! I love Fallout 4 but something about Starfield just doesn't feel right!

[@GabrielLyrio369]

Todd Howard certainly didn't even play the game not even once

[@kingalton10]

Probably not but morons are going to keep buying this trash

[@Linkwii64]

I'm starting to think he doesn't play games. He's just the talking head.

[@saturnalien_5291]

It just works.

[@marloncosta8479]

I love starfield, but I started to want to play fallout for the fourth time.

[@DoodleBob38]

This 😂

[@BlazeZ__]

Cool, I am jumping to fallout 4 after completing starfield main campaign, Never played any fallout until now

[@Mooncake69420]

The awkward moment when older games look better than newer ones

[@Shimpriv]

OMG, never would i have imagined i'd see a game that made me think "fallout 4 wasn't all that bad"

[@Kreasddjb]

People nowadays think that F4 is a good game...

[@makaveli6562]

I don't understand you guys. I am a mutli-game player having beat tons of games including God of War (platinum) Shadow of War Assassin's Creeds played Gta Online for 1000+ same for CoDs and I genuinely think Fallout 4 is the best game I ever played. Guys, you don't test Bethesda games, you play them for hours on end and then you get to have your opinion, as it is a HUGE game not like an Online game which you can have immediate opinion about. Bethesda Skyrim like game is something entirely different. You gotta understand, people who loved Fallout 4 and Skyrim, yet also loved tons of other games, they'll tell you Bethesda is number one. Friends, Fallout 4 is something different. Trust me

[@retropolak]

I also think Fallout 4 is a good game. And much better than Starcrap. I really cared about my companions and other characters. In Starfield almost every aspect of the game is worse than in Fallout 4.

[@Lizardman9808]

@@Kreasddjb Not gonna lie it's a good game compared to today's mess.

[@torretoty]

Starfield is soulless...

[@broughton1835]

You just don’t like the game so you don’t feel anything towards it , simpso

[@nawack2774]

​@@broughton1835No no really, I agree with him. There are games that I don't like but I can recognize that they have an identity, a personality, and I can see how other people might like them. Like a BG3 for example, it's not at all my style of game and if I played it I would certainly be bored, but the game has its personality and I can see the qualities. Starfield on the contrary is a type of game that should please me, but that's not the case, and honestly I've seen very few other games have any soul like it, it's ultra bland and generic everywhere, in addition to being terribly not immersive

[@broughton1835]

let me guess you dont like fallout 3/ NV or 4?@@nawack2774

[@fifteen8850]

Completely disagree. After playing the game, you just sound ridiculous imo.

[@diego2817]

Starfield, the most over hyped game ever... Older games have more quality and love... This is an example that people buy shit, this is because of console, when PC were exclusive the amount of detail were amazing ,today games are focus to console players that don't understand about details

[@Gastemaz]

🐒🐒🐒🐒☝️🤓🤓

[@teamacio9043]

People said the same thing about Skyrim in 2011

[@diego2817]

@@teamacio9043 nahh, Skyrim was very good and immersive, it's problem it was super bugged but game play was very good for its time, starfield is more of the same in space with less detail and less immersion. Quality on video games is going down and the only thing going up is graphics.

[@Hahahanoyes]

You’re a total fool. When oblivion, skyrim, fallout 4 came out, console was the main platform. Xbox 360 was the best selling platform for oblivion. Starfield is a current gen game. XSX is a better machine than the average pc gamer uses lmao

[@megilacuttyjones735]

Starfield is 10/10

[@Youtuber1033]

im glad I have issues Running Starfield with errors and Crashings. Thank a Lot! Todd.

[@KraziestKrazy]

I thought adjusting the game prices to $70 was suppose to… you know… be justified?

[@V-Jes]

It is "justified", by being a free game for everyone with Game Pass.

[@julianwilson9537]

The Reload animations are so much better in Starfield its insane.

[@ReaIvamp]

nah they are same lol bro got some fast reload perks in fallout thats why it looks worse and starfield is not insane in animations xd watch some mw 2022 videos

[@julianwilson9537]

@@ReaIvamp there is so much wrong with the comment I don't even know where to start

[@chikirin9349]

​@@ReaIvampevery single rifle has the bolt on the wrong/left handed side in Fallout 4....

[@ReaIvamp]

@@chikirin9349 we talking about animations lmao

[@julianwilson9537]

@@ReaIvamp that is animation. They specifically made them left handed in fo4 so you could see the reload better (odd decision)

[@TheBigSheepS]

Fallout 4 is better, more refined, water physics is on point! There are people who paid 100 dollars for Starfield!😅😂

[@SC.KINGDOM]

I was one but early access means you van refund on release after 26 hours as I have done

[@Americaisglauber]

Its Evolving.... Just backwards

[@diswazzi1683]

0:17 oh my god... that's enough already, no need to see any more

[@hemingttv]

I can appreciate that starfield has directional swimming

[@mrfoxydoodles]

Starfield is trash but we the people have let games get this bad

[@gamergod8697]

Agreed people are okay paying 70 for unfinished games setting this standard for every company to drain our pockets

[@ANUBIS_06_0]

I agree with you both

[@selimhangun3095]

Of course, they can do water physics almost perfectly. There is not the slightest difficulty from this. It will just make the Water act like very small ball grains and react according to the reaction of the balls when a high-speed bullet enters those Balls. The point is not to do this, this is already a ready-made package. The problem is that this tires the processor. The game developer team works with the logic of minimum fatigue and maximum pleasure, so the first thing that can be dispensed with is that it will affect the game the least, namely Water physics.

[@DavidSanR]

lol what a weak excuse lol.

[@kennethsmith7443]

nah let him cook@@DavidSanR

[@SamplrOfMoonshine]

lоser

[@adamk-paxlogan7330]

Fallout 4 is better

[@WhozDanger]

The fact that these games close to almost 10 years apart isn’t saying A LOT about starfield

[@bdleo300]

Fallout 4 is so much better! Even in Skyrim and Oblivion NPCs had daily routines (something that even Gothic2 had, not to mention games like KCD): go to work ->go eat -> go sleep etc etc In Starfield most named NPCs just stand in one place 24/7 with 1 or 2 idler animation (sweeping the floor with a 'space' broom). Lame.

[@grheavy]

Can you make a comparison between Fallout 4 on his first month vs Starfield? I'm curious about how many bugs F4 had and how many QOL improvements were missing compared to Starfield

[@gnnjsoto]

Not to mention the fallout 4s game is modded so this is not a fair comparison at all.