10 Console Problems NOBODY WANTS TO ADMIT

[@mchammer5592]

I had a really bad experience being a poor kid with an old pc that was under powered for like everything I wanted to play. Looking at those minimum requirements was on the back was so disheartening. When I got my first Xbox, right off the bat I loved that I didn’t need to worry about any of that. Obviously things have changed financially now, but been still playing consoles since then.

[@milinddixit6583]

Same journey a lot of us went through I think. Like you, I stuck with console. But could easily have gone the other way and been like..."I'm gonna build the best PC ever to make up for my childhood" lol.

[@violetfem1808]

SAME story for me too! Now I just prefer console. That 360 saved me.

[@Acid_Ash]

You end up having to buy more hardware but I’m terrible gaming on mouse and keyboard so I get where you’re coming from

[@Azukach]

Im total with you , i only had my fathers pc and it was so bad i couldnt start counter strike on it , only diablo 2 and command and conquer..... I always had consoles, since there was no one home who really had a clue about PC´s and gaming on it.

[@goldenplayer4966]

I got a crappy laptop at age of 15 and even asked for a console or a normal PC, only at 20 with my own money I managed to buy a PS3 and with 22 I bought the Xbox series S.

[@ok_listen]

I just want no online fees.. i don't care about free games or add-ons, just let me play my games online with my connection..

[@booki7057]

Yes *please!* So annoying you need playstation + to play online

[@dizzyspellpunk7976]

Good old days

[@Mon_9087]

Agreed

[@Ameerjanan]

Why tf would anyone pay to play with them bois

[@geordiejones5618]

I kinda wanna play Elden Ring online but it would be the ONLY game on my PS4 I'm playing online. I love the game but I dont wanna spend $120 on it when I know I'll be out of the country at the end of the summer.

[@overseastom]

That last point, that setting up and navigating a modern console is quite complicated and user-unfriendly now, was a real problem for my brother, who unfortunately suffered from schizophrenia and was unable to use them independently. He used to love just popping in a racing game like Dirt or PGR, and selecting the course he wanted and playing it, all with minimal button inputs, but when you compare that to the download process and interface of a game such as the latest Forza, for example, it's nowhere near as easy to get to your favourite bit. This left him feeling a bit marginalised, because I know he wanted to play the coolest looking modern games, but couldn't do so properly unless I was there to help. Simplicity can often be a real virtue when it comes to something that's meant to be pure entertainment.

[@tatsuyahiiragi416]

I'd hope you aren't so cruel as to actually leave out to sea like that, bu the fact that you're actually complainong about the fact that he's feeling left out- good sibling behaviour

[@Ameerjanan]

Now I know what happens to those friends that were last online 7 years ago... I still feel the pain

[@SaadNabil]

Stop! You're gonna make me cry as well! 😭

[@ExDubxC]

We're still here lol. Come join us on PC.

[@shadow_sith5102]

Holy shit your right

[@the3muscletiers219]

Im lucky if I get 2 or 3 hours a day gaming without cutting into sleep.

[@abramrick3079]

What happened to those friends ?

[@johnbell4760]

A lot of great points. I’ve been gaming since around ‘91 (about 6 console generations) and one thing I’ve noticed in relation to point number 1 in this video is that games crashing seems like a much more relevant problem with games nowadays in contrast to previous console generations…

[@jesuschrist711]

Right? I was first introduced to gaming with the 360 in 2012. I was a late bloomer, but nonetheless. My 360 rarely crashed on a game. It happened, but most the time it ran fine even on heavy loads. My xbox i got later never crashed. Even though by now the thermal paste is concrete and it's had a long life, it never so much as dropped a frame. However the xbox one..man what a mess. I own around 40 or 50 games for it, and only subnautica has not crashed at least once. Fallout, assassin's creed, even Hue have all crashed. At some point we really lowered our standards on final products and it sucks. I used to say i wont get a pc because i dont want to deal with crashes. How well that aged..

[@fatbroccoli8]

I don't think that's really true, it's only with some certain games and in the old days it was way more common to get discs just completely not working anymore, cartridges used to mess up a lot too but that was an easy fix most of the time... Similar to how TV's we used to have to bang them every now and then, on the whole things are way more stable these days

[@violetfem1808]

@Mitch Ross But PS4 had jet airplane level fan noise I read constant complaints about.. not for console war just to point out there's different issues associated with different generations and we all hope the next gens resolve previous issues. As for switching to PC, I have plenty of reasons not to but since MS is catering to PC, there's probably more who might leave console ? Don't know

[@fugyfudgy2704]

it's to do with the size and quality of the games nowadays compared to older games, the older games took up a lot less space and were worse quality, this is due to how they make the games using 60FPS and 4k resolution a prime example of this is how the original final fantasy 7 game only took up around 2gb but the remake took up 100gb.

[@fatbroccoli8]

@@fugyfudgy2704 that's really nothing to do with it as they've always pushed hardware to the limits

[@barrygwilliam5367]

What I really miss is a LAN setting for multiplayer. I would love to play multiplayer games with my family, all under the same roof, without having to use the Internet. I remember playing Halo 1 and 2 at my mates house, with 5 or more xboxs all over the house linked up via a hub/router.

[@kristinaF54]

and carrying the extra tv in the backseat of the car to your friends house for console link, and the big pizza parties afterwards...yeah those were the greatest times!

[@Resist_Oppression]

Good fucking times!

[@Resist_Oppression]

@@kristinaF54 facts. Being under the same roof with your pals, Gaming, and hearing them cry out when you get the headshot... great times.

[@TheMelonFarmers123]

I miss lan parties That’s one of the reasons I really like the switch. It’s the easiest LAN party machine with its local wireless option. I do wish there were more shooters like halo on there. if Microsoft wanted more money somehow they would drop mcc to it, even dumbed down and compromised I would still buy it. last summer, my friends and I really got into playing Diablo 3 of all games on our respective switches about once a week in the same room. The whole experience felt really nostalgic.

[@abdulnasirbushra6049]

Oh wow, I've never tried that bro

[@slxmmk]

My ps5 is for the most part silent, besides when I put in a disc. The first time I did it I actually thought something was wrong with it. Crazy how disc drives aren’t silent on the 5th generation of the major consoles

[@slxmmk]

Also, no Starfield for me. Sad boy

[@Andrew52_52]

@@slxmmk no starfield for anyone til next year

[@Twiggymaster666]

My series x makes no noise when I install a new game unlike my Xbox one

[@Orsinius]

Pretty sure they meant the PS4

[@RKO94-49]

@@Orsinius they literally showed pics of ps5 and ps4 on this topic lool.. Ps5 is definitely a victim to loudness. Just not as bad as ps4 pro lol.

[@nighthawk4251]

I’ve never found the rechargeable controllers annoying. I’d always have two controllers; one I’m using and one plugged in charging. If one were to die, I just swap them and keep going.

[@gameranxTV]

👍🏼

[@methos4866]

This was even less of an issue with Xbox 360 controllers which had removable chargeable battery packs and you could buy a charger for it. Just because of that feature i still consider it to be the best controller i ever used.

[@nighthawk4251]

@@methos4866 I mean you could do that with all of the Xbox controllers; buy the rechargeable batteries. It’s still ridiculous to this day Xbox requires you to buy double A batteries or buy the recharge pack instead of just having the controllers come already equipped with the rechargeable packs.

[@pochita6158]

Or get the docks to charge it every time you're not using

[@andremalerba5281]

@@nighthawk4251 the problem is the price! At least on my country I could get a PlayStation controller, 8bitdo or Xbox controller for the same price, except that the Xbox controller doesn't come with rechargeable batteries and the batteries alone cost half of the price of the controller, so it's more expensive and even more annoying because there's a lot of counterfeit battery packs

[@funbucket09]

The easiest way to get rid of stickdrift is for the software to implement deadzone settings. Sony/MS should just have deadzone settings in the OS (instead of just on their pro controllers) and it would sort out 99% of issues

[@rob2257]

Hall effect joysticks seem like a good option too. Gulikit makes replacement modules for some controllers, I believe Joy cons and Steam Deck for one. Big dead zones compensate for: wear, lower quality (which is sometimes required to hit an affordable price point, no point in tolerancing a peripheral to Bugatti or aerospace specs), and the unfortunate reality of nothing in life ever being actually perfect in the sense of completely free from any defect on all levels. LTT has some interesting videos on hall effect joysticks, they're basically magnets interacting with stationary electrical sensors but your axes supporting the stick will wear eventually. Again, you could use over specced bearings, and just go overkill and overbuild until real world stresses were irrelevant but it'd be expensive. Tangentially related, hall effect sensors are most likely used by your car for things such as: camshaft and crankshaft timing, traction control, and anti-lock brake sensors.

[@checob224]

Not really, your solution only delays the inevitable. Hall effect joystick are the way to go.

[@funbucket09]

@@checob224 excluding buying new equipment. Does that work for you? My solution was designed to avoid having to buy new gear. Not everyone can just up and buy something on a whim. Yes buying a new controller in the best solution but deadzones work for when that isn't an option. Thank you for listening to my ted talk.

[@vp_wrld]

The lack of storage is probably the biggest issue for me. When the PS4 launched with 500GB I figured that would seem absurdly small by the end of the gen but NOPE. I would of guessed we would have a few TB by the time the PS5 rolled around.

[@xreddragonsmithx2644]

I don't quite understand the problem of storage a extended storage device for a ps4 or at least mine is 30 dollars for a terabyte

[@ryanjohndavies4092]

The problem is they switched to SSD (which isn't actually a problem because of the speed increase) which is more expensive so they had to lower the storage to keep the cost down. It would have been nice if they offered different storage variants though. But at least we have the option to increase the storage size

[@garrettromer8499]

Lol right it's pretty pathetic my ps4 pro came with more storage than a ps5. U know what I had to buy a Seagate 2 terabyte extended storage for it and 3 terabytes still isn't enough for all my games. Should have bought the 4 terabyte I guess.

[@omatsei]

How many games are you actually playing simultaneously? I play maybe 2-3 at most, and uninstall the rest.

[@BrotherKnowledge.]

That hasn't been an issue for me since the Xbox 360 days. I had the Xbox that had swappable external hard drives, so I had three of them. The 4Gig that came woth it, and 250Gig and a 500Gig. More than enough for me. (I only had like 10 games for the PS3, so save space wasn't an issue there.) For both last generation and current-gen, I have 16TB of space. And 8TB HD, a 4TB HD, a 1TB SSD, a 2TB SSD, and the 1TB that comes with the console. All for the Xbox Series X. I keep all games that are either non-Seroes X games OR games I am either done with or aren't ready to play yet on the HDs. And the games that are either Series X or games I am currently playing either on the internal SSD or one of the external SSDs. Because I can move games between the two extremely quickly. For PS5, I just have an external 2TB SSD for now. I have a feeling that this PlayStation generation is going to be better than the last generation, so I will likely have more games to play this time around. So I should be set after I get and install a 2TB SSD for the internal slot as well. I needed less than 1TB of space last generation, so I figure 5TB of space for the PS5 should suffice. If I am wrong, I'll get another external as needed. Since I get all of my external hard drives and solid state drives on sales, expanding space isn't really an issue for me. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Nzzertral]

honestly when it comes to controller drift it's one of the few things i'd say gamestop is still useful. if you get that free membership you can use the warranty and slap a warranty on a controller and when it inevitably breaks then you can warranty out. gamestops warranty policy is actually really solid. the only thing they don't cover is theft because they'll need you to return the broken one so they can swap it out with a new one for ya. all you gotta do is pay for another warranty and that's a lot cheaper than dropping 60-70 each time

[@Kat-rg6in]

yes!! did this for two sets of joycons. and the warranty is only like 5$ it’s so worth it

[@chasejackson7248]

Easiest thing to do is go to a Walmart buy a controller put the broken one in and return it.

[@Nzzertral]

@@chasejackson7248 depends on the Walmart. One around me is super complicated. Others not so much. Ganestop literally just asks you keep the warranty sticker on the receipt or box and to bring it back and you get taken care of no questions asked. Seems easier and cheaper to go through gamestop imo. Membership is just a one time thing so it saves you more in the long run to be there for like 2 extra minutes filling out some info once than it is to deal with Walmart customer service everytime

[@cynic5581]

Touch pad on the ps controller is what I miss the most when I’m playing on Xbox. You could use it for typing really fast once you got used too it. Games like Ghostwire Tokyo and Ghost of Tsushima and others use it for swiping between weapons and functions. I wish more games used it for quick gestures with the touchpad. I guess a problem I do have with it is when I panic and try to swipe it and instead press the touchpad and it brings up the map or whatever a press does. To each there own I guess.

[@LisaFenix]

#1 is a great point. the appeal of consoles had always been the simplicity and streamlined user experience, even 4 year olds could use consoles. With the added complexity, awkward system updates, sign-ins, bad UI, it really DOES feel like an annoying, less powerful PC. It's not very realistic to strive to go back to the simplicity of say, the PS2 era, given how big, complex and constantly updated games are now. But one can dream..

[@alisead9173]

Yah i agree that sucks

[@pochita6158]

I don't get it. How hard is it to update a console? It's a couple of button press. And how more simple can console UI get.

[@djinnxx7050]

I remember the days when the most you'd have to do to play a game is insert it into the console, and occasionally blow the cartridge. Now, you have to wait half hour to install shit, even with a disc, and them you still need the disc to play the game that's installed. Nothing is as bad as the ZX Spectrum though, that thing took 3 hours to load a game you'd get bored of in two minutes.

[@Mopantsu]

I got Project Cars 2 on sale for PS4. I was annoyed about the amount of aliasing in the game and someone suggested I turn off shadows. Was the option there on PS? No. Turns out it's only a PC option. I dislike being limited to whatever the devs decide is available on consoles vs PC.

[@djinnxx7050]

@@Mopantsu Project Cars 2 actually has a few graphics/effects options on PS4, like you can turn most post processing effects off, but there's really no point since the frame rate isn't going to get any better. I didn't bother fucking with them though, couldn't be arsed, I play console so i don't have to fuck around with settings.

[@telengardforever7783]

What's interesting about modern controllers is that they have more processing power and RAM than my Commodore 64 did. I'm sure if a controller had a HDMI output, a controller alone could emulate many older computers.

[@sharathvasudev]

you do get consoles like that. where everything is in the controller playing old games

[@cinystarr4657]

I've had my same Xone controller from 2014 with zero issues - but then I'm very gentle with it, have no kids that use it & am a casual gamer.

[@abdulnasirbushra6049]

lol

[@jiltherechevers9082]

@@sharathvasudev Right, like a Polystation or a Millenium 2000 which was a keyboard with controles hooked and a cassette slot 😂

[@JimiCanRead]

Switch

[@TheMelonFarmers123]

I was honestly surprised when I upgraded to an Xbox one after 360, doing little research, and finding out that master chief collection needed to not only be installed but download a like an ungodly sized patch especially for 2016. My internet wasn’t great at the time and it literally finished in the middle of the night, which I couldn’t enjoy because I had to go to bed early for work the next day. It’s kind of a sour memory. I get why it’s better to load larger games off a hard drive but I came from a world where you buy the game, put it in and play. It turned gaming away from an impulse affair, which I loved, grew up renting and borrowing games from friends, into something that sort of had to be planned out in advance. I think that’s why I like the switch so much. You go to store, buy cart, and play, with some exceptions for games that cheap out and make you download content. And the downloads tend to not be huge anyways. It’s the last console that still feels like a “console” to me.

[@AIIEYESONME]

Welcome to MOdERn gAminG!

[@VashStarwind]

Yeah every single time i go to use my xbox one, it just pisses me off, and I just go back on my pc lol. EVERYtime..

[@JACKBOOT12]

This is exactly why I stuck with my 360...I remember when the X one just came out most of us returned them not long after just cause of this reason I just wanna play my game not wait for downloads that take hours if not days to complete

[@pinkroses135]

💯

[@angel_of_rust]

Switch games tend to sell as empty boxes with just the download code now.

[@user-xh3qk3ub5q]

Two great uses of the touch pad for ps4 / 5 that are perfectly implemented and add to the game experience 1) Swiping for the gust of wind navigation in Ghost of Tsushima 2) The acoustic guitar in Last Of Us part 2.

[@markiep8477]

I like the touch pad.

[@GhostyGoBoo]

On PC I use the touch pad as a mouse! Can do everything from my sofa

[@thrownaxe5980]

There are a lot of games that use the touch pad for maps or other elements. It’s not a forgotten feature but not a gimmick in every game either

[@boundbyhonor8382]

the Map in the Horizon games

[@jiggerypokery3761]

I was using my DS4 on my PC. I was surprised how many games I hit that touchpad when it did nothing because I was so used to using it to bring up inventory, map, or whatever.

[@Dredgeon]

When I played primarily on an Xbox I just had rechargeable Energizer AAs with their charger hooked up to the wall. I fondly remember frantically trying to do a tactical reload on my battery pack whether I was shoving them into the 360 battery compartment like a double barrel or flinging the Xbox one controllers battery cover off like an M1 Garand clip. Good times.

[@xMiketheManx]

"Walking off to the left." Mario: Walks right😐

[@TheOnlyTaps]

Paying for the ability to play online is defs one of the annoying ones. I'll always remain a console warrior coz of the convenience, but paying for PSN just for online play will never not annoy me 😂 especially coz I've never used all the other benefits so I wouldn't mind if they kept all the other features and dropped the requirement to have PSN to play multiplayer. Great video as always 👊🏿💯

[@burdman5620]

They won't do that, that's another way for them to make alot of money

[@burdman5620]

@@hugh_jassdik sense when did they start doing that

[@burdman5620]

@@hugh_jassdik yeah how much does the premium costs?

[@burdman5620]

@@hugh_jassdik eh I wouldn't say worse, PlayStation does have some good games for sure, but game pass has alot coming to it soon that's gonna be a game changer. That's 5 bucks cheaper a month actually pretty good!

[@burdman5620]

@@hugh_jassdik everyone has preferences I like um both, PlayStation does give better exclusives, but Xbox is catching up they have some good ones coming like redfall and star citizen. I love PlayStation games but that series x console is a beast I've played the PS5 and th Xbox is better to me. If I had the money I'd definitely have both of them though cheers to you brother happy gaming to ya

[@tatienouorest3358]

Number 1: having to choose whether you buy the base console, or wait for the”pro/slim” 4yrs later…. Or wait for the next version 3yrs after that… or wait for the pro of the next…. Or😒

[@ammanus356]

Except this was a one generation thing only and won't happen again. The Pro and X were released due to the influx of 4k tvs in people's households, and because console gamers wanted something capable of 4k output. It wouldnt make sense to do so again now, especially given that the Pro and X sold less than a fifth of the base units, and that the current generation consoles are more than capable of a fair output on a 4k display, althuogh not really 4k.

[@kareemmasri3934]

@@ammanus356 the only upgrade now would be if the 8k tv’s started to get popular 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

@@ammanus356 I guarantee it'll happen again because it's easy money for the console companies. Not to mention the shortage of Xbox Series X/S and PS5 is going to make both companies do a relaunch with a new console that they slap a "Pro" label on

[@Spartan-sz7km]

@@irecordwithaphone1856 same thing with GPUs/CPUs, get the founders or the base GPUs, or the aftermarket ones like MSI, Asus Rog Strix or Galax, wait for the ti variant or the next generation for an even larger jump in performance. Well I've learnt just to get the mid range stuff that'll last a while or you'll be stuck waiting for the 'better deal'

[@garrettspivey]

Wtf are you talking about. Get it new. Trade it in for newer ones that come out. Or save them if you like collecting them like me. Simple. Why would you wait **4 years** to buy a console after it came out?

[@cardsfanbj]

Plenty of these are reasons I chose to get into PC gaming. No online pass required. No issues with backwards compatibility. Ease and lower cost of upgrading storage. The ability to upgrade performance by swapping one component. The ability to install quieter fans (or even water cooling for even quieter operation). Not a part of my initial decision but I'm so glad PC has access to mods, I've had so much fun playing with mods in Fallout 4 (and with console commands, too) On the other hand, I would argue the issues with controllers (drift and battery issues) do apply to PC as well, since there are games that just don't work that well playing mouse and keyboard, (for instance, driving games) since keyboard keys are either full on or full off, so if you're trying to accelerate, you're just flooring it or taking your foot off the gas.

[@bipbop3121]

No backwards compatibility issues, depends on how far you go back or what pc you're cross playing (Mac, Microsoft, Linux). The Sims (1 original) crashes quite frequently on Win 10 (while still being stable compared to modern AAA that ought to be ashamed) . I don't recall it crashing on win 98 software and hardware, for example.

[@dragonfang8670]

Yup, PC does have its fair share of problems too. I was a PC gamer pretty much since the PS3 released all the way until last year. I can list some of the most annoying things Shit optimisation for most games. Hackers on competitive games. Multiple launchers due to exclusivity. Backwards compatibility was good, but not great. Many games needed a tweak and even then would crash. Regarding control drift - even keyboards can have issues - I had a Logitech Carbon G512 and had to take it back to the store due to some keys that randomly decided not to work anymore. There are other issues, but this was mostly an example to show that despite being a much more capable powerhouse, they have their issues too.

[@megamanx1291]

@@bipbop3121 Then just switch to Windows 98 this is not a problem at all. You can easily switch windows’ in seconds

[@rm6058]

Not to mention hackers in every multiplayer experience on PC, limited support, poor ports, no real HDR, and a toxic community. Plus the fact that you don't get what you pay for as far as performance goes. Yeah, PC problems are much larger than console and that is coming from a guy who was once a 10 year + PCMR guy. Console is for gamers. PC is for people who like fidgeting with every single setting, paying too much to get very little in return, and those who enjoy hackers.

[@Elwaves2925]

@@rm6058 "...and a toxic community." That applies just as equally to the console communities. Your comment is very biased and a lot of it is just plain wrong. Consoles are for gamers, that is true but PC is for gamers who want to do more than just gaming.

[@robrichards8570]

agree with most points....personally i love no modding on consoles...makes it a bit harder for hackers to cheat in multiplayer games (though not impossible)

[@Paladwyn]

Eh, even then, most moddable multiplayer games are hosted by one computer and that computer controls which mods are allowed, they could do this with console as well. Though there are games that are multiplayer based that do use mods, they generally don't let people cheat per-se, but some do. These usually go against the games TOS and get banned. Cheat programs aren't really mods in that sense, but I can see the argument there.

[@robrichards8570]

@@Paladwyn i agree, i was mainly pointing out that when people hack a game to cheat they are making a modification. While this can indeed be done on a console there are less easily available mods written to do this on a console. One of my mates writes his own but i believe the majority of gaming likely lack the knowledge and tools to do this.

[@Paladwyn]

@@robrichards8570 I agree with that, yes. I don't use cheats at all so I'm not entirely sure the process, or how easy it is to do on a console. I would just say that it's not exactly the modding that causes the cheats but rather the platform makes it easier to run extra programs on top. It would be much easier to run a cheat program on a PC than a console.

[@iSOMotion]

Yo Gameranx! Its a good day when I see you guys upload lol

[@gameranxTV]

👌🏼

[@SCP-tn2ln]

I don't know if it is a thing on console, but in PC you can adjust the deadzone of your controller, that way the drift doesn't bother you. It's what I did in Steam when my controller started drifting.

[@JohnDoe-hj9fh]

You can totally do it on console very easily

[@Koen1702]

With most games you can do that in the game settings, Some developers don’t give you the option, wich is really frustrating. You can’t change the settings in the console itself. So in some games (Saints Row 3 Remastered, Infamous, Wreckfest (only camera, you can change steering deadzone), just to name a few) it’s stick drift all the way.

[@methos4866]

Some games allow it and some don't. I wish there was a setting for it on the consoles itself.

[@andremalerba5281]

Exactly my thoughts! I even had to do that on a few games with my WMR controllers on SteamVR. Steam makes it perfect by having a global controller config and per game config, and when you think about it, it doesn't make sense that the PC can deal with controllers better than consoles LOL

[@gamelegendalpha1737]

@@JohnDoe-hj9fh Ps5 doesn't allow it. Switch might but I doubt it. Edit: Some ps5 games like ghost of tsushima have stick drift compensation in their settings but not many

[@Eleriam]

3:43 the touchpad on the PlayStation controller (DualShock 4/DualSense) is perfect for when a game crashes on PC, and you don't need to get up to use the mouse to deal with it. Trust me on this one. ;) It's the best controller for PC gaming because of this.

[@richardheykant718]

I am a regular PlayStation user who used to get each major new console (not the updated version of the same generation) eventually, like sometimes a whole year after initial release. The one thing that isn't on the list though is not the fact that old games don't work on the newer ones, but that new games often force you to buy the new and often extremely pricey console. Now i realize that games getting more graphical complexity can make them impossible to work on older generation, especially when you say compare the PS2 graphics with that of the PS3 or PS4. But the simplicity of just upgrading your PC with better hardware and thus being able to play more modern games is a huge plus. Now i do realize the hard-drive space upgrade was a point in this video, but lets be honest, it can easily be extended to also include updating basically any hardware problem of a console generation. I still love to play on consoles, and although i don't have a PS5 yet, i do hope to own one in the future. But knowing my luck, i will finally buy one 1 year before PS6 rolls out :D

[@blckmlr7573]

You're forgetting Playstains was once free too until the end of the life of PS3, Microsoft started the subscription service with Xbox Live with the OG Xbox, while Sony was still free to play online with the PS2 and PS3. And the only subscription services Playstation users had to worry about were in MMORPGs like EverQuest Online Adventures, and Final Fantasy XII Online.

[@blckmlr7573]

@*2MuchRiceWine* hmm could be, but I wouldn't know since I quit console gaming when Sony began charging and went strait to PC I was already paying for an Xbox Live subscription at the time and their was no way I was going to do the same thing with Playstation when they began so I quit consoles all together and just started PC gaming, it is a much better expirence. 😛

[@olusimp]

It was terrible though, they didn’t put a lot of money into PSN and it showed

[@fasoooli2751]

@2MuchRiceWine they use a 2nd account with ps plus on and activate it on their console then play with their own non-plus account

[@divyangvaidya1999]

The controller drift issue is one of the biggest problems with consoles. It is like the razor and blades model of business when it comes to the controllers. $50-70 for controllers that probably cost them $20-30 to make, maybe even less.

[@GrubKiller436]

Exactly dude

[@davidarnold7147]

Xbox One Controller costs $15 to make per controller however, Microsoft spent $100 million developing it thus probably the high price.

[@GrubKiller436]

​@@davidarnold7147 But nobody cares how much money was spent developing it if it's this cheap and has been for such a long time. Like imagine if someone went on Shark Tank and they talk big about their product but then they say "but it has a variety of problems it frequently runs into, and fairly early on, sometimes within one or two months" that would be an absolute nightmare. It's the worst thing you could imagine as a standalone product. How do you think phones and all these other gadgets have become so ridiculously high quality? Because they have no choice but to listen to feedback or their shit sinks. The only reason why we're stuck with these nasty cheap controllers is because there is no other options to your gaming system; you're stuck with it. The money they've "spent developing it" is an arbitrary figure for me, because there's no justification for the lack of quality we're getting other than greed.

[@RaMz00z]

The thing that baffles me is that it didn't use to happen... I mean, we've had analog sticks for like 20 years now, and only starting XBox One (for me) has that problem started... Like 20 years since the original PlayStation, no problem. Comes XboxOne and I basically have to buy a new one every two years or so... AND ! Now *every* console maker has the issue... Really ? Go look into the alt makers guys. I found one that does modified XBox controllers, weirdly, no more issues... Someone said scheduled obsolesence ?

[@williamkelly5689]

Ive never had to buy a new one due to drift

[@codenamemist2560]

I actually found the ps4 controller touchpad useful, Only for its non intended purpose however. I have a modded vita and when you connect your ps4 controller, you can also use the touchpad as the touchscreen for your vita. So you’ll never have to lay a finger on your vita again. How convenient!

[@BigMobe]

I found the touch pad so annoying I put duct tape over it. I kept unconsciously swiping it causing random unwanted things to happen like swapping weapons. It wasn't the worst thing about the PS4 controller. The V-shape for the bar light destroyed the joints in my left index finger because I was so used to supporting the PS1 to PS3 flat bottomed controllers with it.

[@giannidescalzo2101]

Regarding drift, ive had four sets of joycon with a bad left drift. I finally bought a 25 dollar set of knockoff replacements, they were just as good, they have every feature, they don't drift, they're more comfortable, and I have had them on my switch ever since for over a year. Their only fault, and its very minor, is they dont feel quite as "premium". I actually play more handheld than docked now (with a good pair of reading glasses lol). If they ever break I'll get a similar pair.

[@TEFLONDONTRUMP2024]

I bought those for my kid and they don't fit into the controller frame and no longer hold a charge

[@timothylewis2527]

Which ones are you using? I have a hard time finding ones with motion controls, rumble, or NFC.

[@giannidescalzo2101]

@@timothylewis2527 it won't let me post what they are. The brand names Kinvoka. Jon actually reviewed the same ones under a different name.

[@rosshurst5630]

I like the touchpad and the controller speaker is such an underrated and under used feature.

[@jollycooperation7446]

Number 5 with the console exclusivity could piggy back ride on the paid subscription topic too. You gotta buy a console, buy the game, AND pay for online access. If you're new and want to start gaming, depending on the game and console, that price range is anywhere from $460 to $600 just to play 1 game. Those price range are from the PS5 and Xbox Series + game and subscription. Could be even more if you try your luck with scalpers. I love the whole free to play means free to play thing xbox finally did. The struggles of running out of Gold on 360 was tough. Had to make a new account to get a month free trial of gold back in the day. A hassle because of the verification progress.

[@Mike_l_itoris]

Actually, the touchpad proved most useful when I connected my controller to my tv and moving the cursor with it instead of the remote, it's also useful when typing on ps4

[@dbrikashabukshan8673]

I find the touchpad pretty useful for when connecting it to my pc, as I can use ds4windows to 1. use the mouse without moving 2. have extra buttons to work with (The touchpad gives a total of 7 extra keybinds or macros, and the ability to change my controller config on the fly).

[@GP-gy8ti]

Very on point, this new ps plus system wasn't even that in depth prior to it's release so for markets who didn't have ps now, well having a game basically expire was a surprise that turns people off, there's also the login stuff that get very irritating since both ps3 and vita have locked me out of my collection due to the newest update requiring a new 2 device verification or something, so until I can get that sorted out which is a challenging by itself due to Sony's website, I am stuck playing physical copies which limits my collection to half.

[@moon_and_water]

I‘m playing with headphones for so long by now I kinda forgot that consoles make a noise ;) Great list!

[@brysongrayy]

Am I the only one that loves the touch pad? Mostly exclusives use it, but it’s a great way to add up to 4 buttons to an interface or incorporate in other ways. I like it a good bit. Also the expansion for ps5 is better imo for consumer choice and price. It takes 2 minutes or so instead of instant but super easy

[@geordiejones5618]

So disappointed that not a single fantasy game has implemented the touch pad as part of spellcasting. Its still never been used in a game as part of a meaningful mechanic its alway just a map or your inventory.

[@brysongrayy]

@@geordiejones5618 some exclusives have to just be more creative. It has more that it can do but I wish that and the gyro thing was more utilized. Other controller features are super dope tho

[@Gendor64]

@@brysongrayy Gyro might get more attention, Horizon FB allows gyro aiming. And i hope it gets more use since botw showed me how good gyro can be. However the pad will probably only be for gimmicky mini games etc. at least for most games.

[@rikko47]

I love the touchpad

[@93gamrx]

Xbox's solution to batteries is perfect. Batteries for those who want them, rechargeable kits for those that want those instead. Official ones can be re-charged through the built in USB C port on the controller. Which, if I forgot to charge before hand, I usually just plug into the quick charge plug on the extension I have resting on the back of my couch. Easy peasy. Also, kinect was my favorite accessory combined with the TV pass through hdmi port. Being able to voice activate my streaming apps, TV channels and the like was fantastic. (Not to mention, saying "Xbox On" turning on all my gear at once before that was possible over hdmi).

[@mikaruyami]

Also, even without a battery, you can plus your Xbox controller into your console or pc via USB and use it without needing batteries.

[@93gamrx]

@@mikaruyami yup! 😁

[@anFy81]

My entire gaming experience is redefined by my XBOX SeriesX having a quick-resume option. As a father of a small child (soon two children) I often only have ~15 minutes to play or might have to abruptly end a gaming session, because I am needed. The fact that I can stop playing at any moment and continue later from that precise moment, makes me so happy and causes a totally stress-free gaming experience. I remember as a kid, when I was called to have dinner, it was a real issue to stop e.g., in the middle of a boss-fight or simply just to stop and loose the progress of the last 30+ Minutes. Great tech.

[@markmaisy4858]

Been with Xbox since day one and have to say this is the best feature ever made, currently have 8 games on quick resume and it still blows my mind that it takes you to the exact point you left off

[@anFy81]

@@markmaisy4858 yes, it's such a joy :-)

[@thegamerreborn55567]

Honestly, I like hearing the disc spin up and having the fan make noise. I might be in the minority on this though. And for controllers dying, again, not something I would complain about.

[@JonatasAdoM]

I thought something was wrong with my PC when the cooler didn't make noise. Felt like it wasn't running at all. That's what EV owners must feel like. Now it makes noise and I can't tell whether it is normal or not haha. Which is also weird. Consoles are wireless so it's not like you're next to it, so how would the noise be a factor? Either the TV or headphones will drawn out the sound.

[@TyrenxD]

You’re not In the minority you are the minority.. lol

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

@@ok-70707 I think what they're saying is, they never noticed an issue with the battery length of the controller.

[@superbadsuperbad3001]

This list was a joke, controlers where out so does every thing then he say batteries go dead no shit plug it in usb cord and keep playing

[@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames]

@@ok-70707 The disc spin up bit is weird but some people respond to stimulus differently and as for the battery. Plug it in... nothing is stopping you from playing while charging. The controllers aren't made to exclusively be only charging or only playing. If it's awkward to play when it's plugged in then plug it in mid match or when your in the menu. It won't charge well but you took that option because it was awkward and if you have to contemplate that choice. It isn't awkward if you feel you have a choice.

[@therabidpancake1]

Ya I remember the Nintendo N,E,S that was literally a plug and play system I mean yeah you needed to have it plugged into the tv and the wall . You also had to have games and controllers but it was so much easier . IDK if I would say faster but easier without a doubt and probably cheaper . I think gamers have really taken for granted the retro gaming era . I am going to push my luck and say that it was technically faster since we didn't have 2 to 3 minute loading screens or updates . I miss the entire game being on the disc or the cartridge . I can not tell you how much fun I had with the Sega Genesis .

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

i had controller drift on wireless ps4 controller i used, but nowadays and for while been using wired glow/light up controller called nacon (which has sony's support) and never had drift issues with nacon controllers yet.

[@peterpeterpumpkineater7318]

Yes! The nacon controllers are a lot more robust!

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

@@peterpeterpumpkineater7318 yeah there my fav controller to use now even for pc games (which allow controller) as got red & blue one haha though i am tempted by green one.

[@cheq9670]

About controller drift, there are stick designs that will never have drift because of a special magnetic mechanism inside of them, but, there's a catch, these are quite expensive to produce.

[@Skylancer727]

Eh, Dreamcast controllers were no more expensive than Gamecube's. The Dreamcast only had one joystick but was actually five dollars cheaper. It did have the hall effect joystick which is why many people still use the original controller today.

[@Indycowboy2]

10) Controller drift 9) Loud fans/disc 8) Gemics 7) Batteries 6) Pay to play online games 5) Console exclusives 4) Bigger games but less storage space 3) Constant console updating 2) No MODs 1) Consoles are mini-PCs (don't feel like consoles anymore)

[@angelc4919]

so glad i switched to pc gaming a few years back, best decision ever! although i do miss some of the exclusives

[@Mr_R00k]

Emulators are great

[@tocxik25glance73]

@@Mr_R00k u talking bout the Xbox series x emulator?

[@Yuri-xx2gi]

At least they're coming, not very fast but better than nothing

[@Bulsara777]

I am a pc gamer, but still find my self buying playstation consoles just for the exclusives, and keep PC as my main. I know that it's not worth the money, but I'm happy with it.

[@Mopantsu]

@@tocxik25glance73 Xbox Series S and X are basically PC games consoles. There are no exclusives on Xbox. So no emulation required.

[@THExWASP]

ive never heard my ps5 fan on full blast, its been 100% quiet in the year ive had it lol

[@adamwest8711]

Someone else mentioned he might be thinking PS4 Pro which is crazy loud. Either that or his PS5 is busted or he leaves it next to a blazing hot radiator.

[@cliffchristopher7643]

Stick drift is the biggest annoyance because it could be mitigated by simply putting a more expensive joystick component in. They're like a $1.70 for the manufacturers of controllers and if they would opt for a more expensive component it wouldn't be an issue. But because they cheap out they expect you to spend $70 for a new controller

[@F2t0ny]

I think there are some real pros and cons to console exclusives. Many of the best games ever made are console exclusives, specifically PS4 exclusives. I've listened to GDC talks about God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn and Ghost of Tsushima and a common thread I've noticed is they get playtested to perfection. I don't think you can do that without a big old budget from Papa Sony. Also focusing on one console saves time and thus, money. Could be a bunch of lies but CDPR claimed that the fact that cyberpunk was releasing on everything under the Sun slowed them down.

[@violetfem1808]

I always believed 3rd party games suffered due to so many platforms - then there's game complexity if they add MP/coop. In early 2000's I made Websites & Websets and what got me to quit was the constant headache of testing in new Browser versions it had to perform well in. Tedious & ruined basic enjoyment of my projects

[@F2t0ny]

@@violetfem1808 Sounds like a real pain.

[@violetfem1808]

@@F2t0ny Oh ya. What was fun for me was the digital graphics & making a nice looking page - then you get to all the Browsers and previous versions people are still using and the page renders things completely different. You're tweaking code back & forth for ages. No thanks. Lots of new ways to code come out too - The worst thing was most of it was FREE to use back then so I made nothing for it other than side jobs from people asking me to make something custom. I got burnt out - I cannot imagine devs - not only working on the game itself but then rendering on all kinds of PC hardware ! lol I don't get near as angry at glitches/bugs becuz of what I went thru

[@guilhermefreitas7384]

Nice video, good points. Still, I think that the situation changes depending on the country - I live in Brazil, and tech here is waaaay more expansive than in the US or Europe. While building an o.k. pc, with i5 core, nice graphics and everything, can cost up to 10x or 12x the minimum wage, Sony and Microsoft (Nintendo chose not to do so, and I don't know anybody who owns a Nintendo console besides like wii hahaha) adjust the cost of their consoles. Basically, they are more accessible then a gamer pc. The only BR pc gamers I know use their computers all day to work, like designers or such.

[@charlierunkle19]

is it possible for you to have somebody in a cheaper country but it and ship to you?

[@guilhermefreitas7384]

@@charlierunkle19 I mean yes but it's hard, cuz some pc parts are specifically made for Brazilian pcs, and a computer mounted elsewhere would be hard to maintain

[@charlierunkle19]

@@guilhermefreitas7384 oh wow, I didn't know that you had proprietary parts, that's unfortunate. I hope you find a way

[@jment34]

@@guilhermefreitas7384 What parts are you talking about afaik it's mostly standarized. The only difference it the power plug type.

[@ewp97]

The worst bit about newer consoles is the lack of preservation of old games. If you wanna play an older title without having to switch console you have to buy a remaster (if said remaster exists) of a game you already own. That's where PC wins because you can play more or less anything that isn't exclusive; that's without mentioning emulators are getting better as time goes by. The big upside for somebody who enjoys using a controller is you can use pretty much any controller on a PC; and then also tweak the controls per game if desired. Plus not having to pay online subscriptions saves you money in the long run. I miss the simplicity of the ps2/ Xbox 360 where about half of the above applied.

[@Antboi4653]

On xbox you can just use the old disc, that's a ps5 problem

[@Steel-101]

Dude this list is spot on. I’m not kidding today I had to buy a new controller. The wireless controller prices are ridiculous. $70? If I paid that much, Well there goes my gas money for today lol 😆. I paid 30 bucks for a wired one(so I don’t have to use batteries frequently). Actually I paid 25 because I got five bucks off. As for the loud sounds from the console, my Xbox one X is pretty quiet. It only hums a bit when the game is in a loading-screen.

[@RealSelljon]

Only $70 for gas? Lucky.

[@Steel-101]

@@RealSelljon two years ago it was 18 bucks 😓

[@Steel-101]

@@RealSelljon however in some states it’s a lot higher than 70 bucks right now. I think California and New York have the worst prices.

[@Joreel]

@@Steel-101 $6.37 a gallon on average in California right now. There are a few places where it's over $8 a gallon.

[@Steel-101]

@@Joreel Man! enough to give you a heart attack

[@kasdikana5992]

sometime back i had a lot of controller drifting issues on my pc. i finally found out the real reasons are drivers. too many drivers for controllers. I was using ps controller, but my window hardware screen is registering logiteck, sony, 3d pro whatever... like everything i've ever plugged. after deleting them, no more issues.

[@tacodundee1950]

Yeah… the noisey console thing… I had a dial-up modem back in the day… I don’t even notice my car beeping about a seat belt now unless someone else is in the car. I’ve grown numb to annoying noises. Thank you 90s.

[@50shadesofgandalfthegrey]

The exclusivity thing has always pissed me off. I play primarily on PC, but I also play a ton on Xbox. I got the Xbox 1 cuz I wanted to play more than just one game. I got it to play Forza Horizon, The Halo Master Chief collection, replay some of my old 360 game, and Horizon Zero Dawn. I loved that game. I played through it twice. Can you imagine the look on my face when I found out that Horizon Forbidden West was going to be a Playstation Exclusive? I mean, even the original was later released on PC. Exclusivity doesn't mean anything. I'm not buying a Playstation just so I can play 1 game. I feel like Playstation makes up the stats that say exclusivity brings in extra money. I don't see how they could possibly lose money by bringing certain games exclusive to other platforms.

[@sususegar]

It's probably true that exclusivity brings in extra money. The publisher/developers could negotiate a lower commissions percentage if they sell only on one platform, while saving costs by focusing on developing/fixing issues solely on that platform alone. Unfortunately for people like you and I, we'll not be playing HFW anytime soon. I'd never get on a console again as I don't have as much time for gaming anymore, and I don't want to spend on something that I'd rarely use - just PC all the way as it's much more flexible as a workhorse.

[@caenir]

Xbox has exclusive games too. So does Nintendo. So do a bunch of VR headset companies

[@dragonfang8670]

You know, exclusive content is the only way a company can guarantee customers will opt for their product. When two different companies are selling consoles with the same level of performance, why would someone choose X over Y? It has to be the exclusive content.

[@nathanstratford5091]

If you have a PC, why didn't you buy a PS4 instead of an Xbox One? That way you can play all Microsoft exclusives on PC and Sony exclusives on the console

[@50shadesofgandalfthegrey]

@@nathanstratford5091 I owned an Xbox before I owned a PC. At the time I got the Xbox, xbox exclusive games were not available on PC.

[@jasonrodriguez7242]

Additionally to topic 4, for the series x you can also just buy cheaper seagate external storage, the series x got USB ports to put it in. I got 1 tb extra for just €70 euro.

[@xBruceLee88x]

Ah number 10, was a big issue with older joystick setups on pc back in the day Number 9 applied as well

[@simonbriggs203]

I enjoyed my PC so much when I first got it set up that I almost never go back to the switch anymore (though I still use it on occasion). I haven't gotten a Playstation or an Xbox in so many years and seeing as these once exclusives are finally getting PC ports, I'd say it was worth it.

[@afflack09]

Its going to be such a long wait for Horizon Forbidden West to finally be ported to PC. I loved HZD on Steam. I won't buy a whole console for one game, I'll wait.

[@swordboy5477]

Same thing here. The console exclusives sometimes look cool but it’s not enough for me anymore to keep paying for increasingly expensive consoles. I’d rather just buy a new gaming pc every few years

[@antagonist7]

If i ddnt buy a ps4 i wouldv missed some of my most memorable and favorite games bloodborne, ghost of tsushima, last of us, returnal, demons souls and seeing if i missed some pc only exclusive must have games, theres none. so im glad i ddnt go the pc route. Now experiencing the ps5 and the haptics is just sooo good

[@sheepdog5799]

Same. I started making the switch to PC over ten years ago. I would still ply my PS3 on occasion but I haven’t bought any consoles sense that time. The only reason I have any of my old consoles is so my son can experience them one day. PC really is a superior platform in terms of the quality you can get.

[@ruski77]

By getting a PC I missed out on Bloodborne and Tsushima, sure, though there’s hundreds, hell even thousands of games made by small developers/individuals that will never see the light of day on consoles that only PC players will get to experience; I don’t regret my decision.

[@radagast7200]

I loved my Kinect actually... although I only used it control the streaming stuff. I still say "Xbox. Next Episode". Also the Skype was cool on it, it would track and zoom automatically as you walked around or someone else walked into your room. I am glad it's gone though, the Orwellian surveillance state thing made it not fun anymore.

[@gameranxTV]

👍🏼

[@daneofarrell9460]

@@gameranxTV not even reading this stuff. Just relying with 👍 to a sprinkling of different comments to look like they’re engaging with the audience haha

[@BloodlustNL]

The touchpad has a great feel in the las of us 2 with people playing real life songs on it like hotel california and stuff. I think thats really cool.

[@RoyAlWhicheez]

I'm at point in my life where I'm so busy with my 4 boys and running a business that I never get to play enough to drain a battery anymore.... not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing but either way it's not an issue for me

[@SodiumWage]

Being a kid: Plenty of free time, not much money to buy games. Being an adult: Have some money, but no free time to play games.

[@RoyAlWhicheez]

@@SodiumWage exactly dude!!!

[@cobalt-snake6125]

Number 8: goofy gimmicks and useless features is definitely one that Sony is very guilty of. They put so many things in their consoles that almost nobody ever uses. Be honest, how many games on average do you play on a PlayStation console that actually uses stuff like motion controls, controller speaker, controller light bar, controller touchpad, etc.? I feel like the 3D Tempest Audio and Haptic Triggers are also going to end up in the almost never used category this gen.

[@AIIEYESONME]

Remember when PS3 controllers launched with no standard rumble pack in its place was that sixasis bullshit? Lol

[@cobalt-snake6125]

@@AIIEYESONME Yup. That was way back in 2006, and to this day still almost no games use the sixaxis motion controls, and yet Sony keeps on putting it in their controllers. There comes a time when you need to know when to cut your ties with a technology that no one ended up caring about.

[@FlorianRachor1]

Haptic Triggers are an absolute killer feature of the PS5 they are so damn good, Sony catapulted themselves lightyears ahead with that. Graphics, performance all nice and good, but the haptic triggers are such a big improvement, it's insane. If anything we are going to see innovative usage of this, like with Returnal.

[@immortalfrieza]

#5 Console Exclusives are the worst. Even moreso because of #1, where since consoles are basically PCs anyway the only thing stopping most consoles from being able to play each other's games or on the PC is software locking the others out. It's a monopoly designed to force you to buy a particular console and get that particular game only from them. Rather than the consoles each being designed to have value on their own merits the consoles are functionally identical so the only reason anyone ever buys any of them is to be able to play the exclusives.

[@theBRANDOProductions]

honestly i find consoles way easier and more convenient then pc's

[@Mopantsu]

Setting up PC for use on a TV can be a pain too. I play Forza Horizon 5 and it's not as simple as click play.

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@Mopantsu Are you using the TV wirelessly or through a cable? Because I remember plugging the PC to the TV as a monitor and it worked as if I was using a normal monitor. My PC even remembers settings when I change between monitors. That was before Windows 10 however.

[@farqueleyou7578]

What's inconvenient about a PC?

[@theBRANDOProductions]

@@farqueleyou7578 I’ve had tons of issues when gaming on pc

[@skraddarn69]

In most cases it's cheaper too.

[@logicalfundy]

I think 8bitdo's Pro line of controllers handles charging best: They come with a researchable battery, and it lasts a good amount of time. Charging the battery is pretty standard - just plug in the included USB-C cable. If you're really in a pinch and want to keep going without waiting for the battery to charge, the battery compartment can take standard AA batteries as well. Wouldn't be surprised if you could just use it as a wired controller by keeping the cable plugged in, but never tried it like that. Outside of some crazy technology that hasn't been invented yet, I don't think it can really be improved beyond that.

[@antifascistskater]

Wireless charging for controllers will happen and thatll be nice, I have 3 ps4 controllers I just use and charge on a rotating basis, works out for me, when I need to swap it's right by my gaming chair. But one day I'll just be able to sat my controller on my console and itll charge it

[@13ricardoandrade]

Totally agree with this list

[@bizkillall]

The PS5 fan sounding like a wind tunnel? Did you mean PS4 Pro? The PS5, even with the fan at full tilt, is not very loud.

[@adamwest8711]

Yeah, my ps4 pro sounds like a goddam wind tunnel. It runs like a dream but damn. Shit’s noisy. I’ve edited this comment 3 times now because my analogy has been used by Falcon but I don’t care now. I thought wind tunnel before he said it so it stays.

[@mrswagtastic3276]

Yeah he was wrong the ps5 isn’t very loud at all. I barely hear it.

[@zXennVS]

I think he meant PS4 and the editor/s went with it.

[@Mopantsu]

Depends on which fan you get in your PS5. There are three models. Mine is quiet as a mouse.

[@BigMobe]

The PS4 Pro was really bad especially in Aliens Fireteam Elite but I have got my PS5 going like a rocket motor a few times.

[@PlaySA]

The file sizes is a huge thing for me. I like to keep hundreds and hundreds of games (maybe even a thousand, it's hard to count) ready to play at all times. That's why I have 18 TBs of space on my PC total, some disc and some solid state. I don't want to download an old game if I want to play again, I just want to play it. I also get access to so many games rather than the limited and expensive console games, and all the customization I could want at every step. I like consoles overall and hope they keep going strong, but they're not for me overall.

[@ruski77]

This. Everyone talks about the big company releases and AAA exclusives but nobody pays attention to the vast and expansive library of games that only PC has access too, like hundreds if not thousands of priceless indie games.

[@bash8387]

Idk why they don’t have the ssd card like they do with the Nintendo swich

[@veronicamorales3256]

bro I remember being so sad when my xbox 360 got the red ring

[@bash8387]

That happened to me to and I told my self I will never buy another Xbox again fast forward a few years later I bought a Xbox 1 S lol

[@benzvids1]

Wasn't sure how this was going to play out, but after 'controller wandering', I was hooked...... "Where the F*$k are you going?!" is a constant phrase of mine.... on my 360.

[@devinmadrid3158]

I got 3 things that’s I’ve been annoyed with since I got my ps5 and I was one of the lucky few that had pre ordered it and got it on launch. Note that I have purchased two ps5’s I got the second one in April and it’s had the same issues as the first one. 1. When you first get it you gotta fight the ps5 to start downloading a game once it downloads its first game it’s fine. 2. Stick drift now I’ve only really had this on my custom controller but it does happen every now and then with my controllers that I got the ps5 with. 3. No custom backgrounds like wtf the one they have is boring I want my custom backgrounds like on the ps4 with different icons and even background music.

[@Jason_Van_Stone]

Hopefully they change up to themes soon. I miss my old ps4 renaissance village with moving rain and smoke from the chimneys. As far as controller drift, mine started happening after a year of having the ps5, playing Elden Ring of all games, the worst time to happen.

[@ryanjohndavies4092]

On the topic of storage, the way Microsoft handled it was great with the memory/expansion cards because of how easy and that having multiple of them wouldn't be a pain, but they are to use but damn they cost so much and Sony's one is the cheaper option but changing them out would be a pain if you had multiple of them.

[@davidwitte8076]

propriety memory generally is overpriced. look at the vita and switch - both have the hardware tax for their memory cards (which is one reason the vita wasn't that successful)

[@Gendor64]

You're removing a side panel and two screws, it ain't that hard buddy. Like, how often do you swap storage for that to become an issue?

[@ryanjohndavies4092]

@@Gendor64 I'm just saying it's an issue in comparison to the Xbox version. I imagine there are people who may store certain games on certain hard drives for example I would store all my party games on one hard drive so I can bring that to a friends house to easily play them. On Xbox that would be easier and less of a hassle but on PS5 it's slightly more of an issue.

[@Gendor64]

@@ryanjohndavies4092 you'd need to have your account on the friends device first tho. And while it is like 10 seconds of extra work compared to xbox's solution it's still pretty quick and easy. Plus at least for now you wouldn't be able to use the propriety xbox storage should you ever switch to pc, so sony's approach is better from a future reuse standpoint (although ms did say they want their storage to be usable on pc eventually, which it better at that price)

[@quillferrell4568]

The minute you start talking about disc's ik the 360 was coming. Used to sound like a dj table when it was stood straight up

[@bigsadge]

PC is pretty cool, i do miss some exclusives but i gotta say it's neat being able to play a lot more games and emulating the games Sony wants me to buy 100 times bc "now it's on this console" edit: Talking about backwards compatibility, not ports to the "new console"

[@brennefleisch]

What I find sad is that my PC ports play worse than my emulators for older games.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

Yeah but I thought you can't emulate ps4 or ps5 games

[@brennefleisch]

@@irecordwithaphone1856 sadly nothing yet I'm aware of, but my PS2 games play rather well. PS1 is hit or miss

[@pochita6158]

Aren't almost every PS4 games compatible with ps5? Like, the upgrade is free

[@andremalerba5281]

@@irecordwithaphone1856 yet! One day perhaps

[@budabead]

Can I just point out when you make a point on console exclusives and how " some players who'd love them never will because... exclusives" Falcon, bro.... how many tens of thousands of games that are PC exclusive?...let's be real here

[@RickMyBalls]

The reason for that isn't scummy like consoles' reasons though. Also, calling something 'PC exclusive' it is like calling a film 'DVD exclusive' or some such nonsense.

[@wjjonesy]

You can look up tutorials on dismantling controllers in order to correct stick drift I've done it many times on my DualShock 4 controllers and always managed to fix the problem, keep in mind i haven't done this to an Xbox or PS5 yet so results may vary

[@lonewolffang]

One for me is console midding restriction after the company stops putting warranties on the system but want to keep control of the owner wanting to use ot the way they want because the company want to keep restrictions on something they don't care about anymore. I'm looking at you Sony.

[@Dracossaint]

I hear where you're coming from and I hate it too, but I just want to point at the Dreamcast. Odds are it would never be as easy as the Dreamcast. but you have to understand that is every modern companies waking nightmare. hell look at satellite companies for another example and why those big giant old dishes are garbage now

[@newtable2580]

Controller drift has never affected a single switch controller I've owned, but. Multiple Ps4 controllers have had drifting issues for me.

[@JonatasAdoM]

I've had the analog plastic break, but never drift (aside from a knockff controller that doesn't seem to have a spring) on my PS2. Seeing all the drift comments, it is either something with new controllers (aking to mice double clicking/scroll issues) or how people use the analog sticks. I for example didn't "kick" the analog. Always kept it under my finger and brought it back manually. I didn't rely on the analog to bring the stick back. It was painful to see my friends torture the poor controller.

[@MemeCastGuy69]

@@JonatasAdoM I have had controllers for my Switch Xbox and my PS5all get stick drift. Xbox and Playstation both use similar quality if not the same joysticks when you see them from the inside. Switch joycon joysticks are pathetic, I am sure they only went with the kind that they did because they needed them to fit inside the slim controllers.

[@Leanzazzy]

Buying a console today is like buying an Apple product. You're literally paying more for less.

[@Smashogun]

My biggest problem with console controllers is that you have to buy an expensive controller if you're gonna play competitively. Like a controller with back paddles so that you can aim while shooting and jumping/crouching. And for PS5 you currently have to buy from them a third party company. And THEN they eventually end up drifting.

[@yesdude3914]

You don't "have to buy an expensive controller" lmao I've used a base controller for years and play multiple FPS and play just like anyone else🤗

[@chasejackson7248]

Good thing the majority of gamers don't play that way

[@MrWiktorHere]

Upgrading ps5 storage isn't that bad tbh

[@joeneri150]

The most annoying thing in a console nowadays is when you just put in a disc. In the of the Xbox 360, you can put in a game and it starts. Now you put a disc in and you have to wait about 4 hours depending on what size the game is.

[@MrGamer-lz6ci]

I have had a lot controllers over the years personally but surprisingly I’ve only had one that ended up having stick drift and it was after a lot of hours I ended up fixing it with rubbing alcohol though. Fan noise the way yes for sure my PS4 sounds like a jet engine But thankfully the PS5 is so much quieter🙂

[@victorzuim]

The key binding limitation on controllers against keyboards and the precision against mouses are the worst thing for me. The thing with key limitation is that it carries over to pc, since games are made cross plataforms, i.e. Crisis vs Crisis 2 control scheme... I don't care for mods, but fan made fixes saved a lot of games for me. A point you didn't mentioned is how cheap the games get on pc against consoles and how fast it happens, sure they launch at the same price, but they get cheaper really fast on pc, I think that affect the overall cost of gaming more than the online subscription...

[@dranzerjetli5126]

Keyboard and mouse is like 5$ whereas controller is 60$

[@AIIEYESONME]

How about propriety hardware where you are stuck having no options for prices outside of your brand of closed box. for any addons or especially hard drives. You just know that those pricey ass NVMe SSDs will see an eventual price drop across the board. Except Seagate's XBox brand SSD that will stay at the same prices probably for the life of that console. Consoles are for suckers that just don't seem to know or care any better.

[@AIIEYESONME]

@@dranzerjetli5126 I think I've seen an XB Razer? M&B for over $200 MSRP. Probably never goes on sale, and works like a $5 one. LOL

[@akfreed6949]

One of my favorite games is the PS2 version of GTA 3 . Not the Xbox or PC version . The PS2 controller is analog and touch sensitive . GTA3 was made for this . I've played the Xbox and PC versions and the controls aren't as good as PS2 . The car was ALWAYS a little harder to control when driving . It annoyed me enough to where I never even finished either . It looked better though . The PS2 version had a little noticable pop-up not seen in the Xbox or PC versions .

[@BDogGrizzly]

So… I’ve been gaming since 1990 with my Dads Atari 2600 and 2 years later my first ever console was the Sega Genesis and Sonic the Hedgehog 2 as my first game. Since 1992 I have owned 10, yes *_10_* versions of Sonic 2 because of upgrading/going from console to console. I also own roughly *_230+ CONSOLE ONLY GAMES NOT INCLUDING DLC OR REPURCHASING THE SAME GAME!!! IF_* we counted repurchases I’d own *_275+ games EASY!_* And adding computer games it hits *_400+_* games! It’s crazy how companies gouge the shit out of us!

[@Shadows_Inc]

Controllers were always expensive. The problem now, is there's not enough cheap 3rd party options in the stores anymore. Usually it's just the main console company controller, or a somewhat different but still expensive "licensed" controller. Back in the day, you could get a cheap MadCatz for like $15-$25, while the actual controllers were like $59.99+

[@oscus1520]

Facts. I have two legit GameCube controllers, and two small "madcatz" ones just for the memories.

[@shadow105720]

In the old days you only had wired controllers from the console manufacturer and aftermarket wireless ones but now if you want wireless (which is standard) you have to go first party.

[@Ascendedninja6]

I've never bought a third party controller that hasn't broken way sooner than a legit control from the manufacturer. I'd rather pay to have a controller that'll last me over 1 year+ than a control that breaks within 2 months.

[@Shadows_Inc]

@@Ascendedninja6 Some were built great, some were garbage, it depended on the brand and the specific model. My point is that the option was "there", especially for those just looking for a controller to pull out on rare occasion when a friend is over, and wouldn't be the main controller. They last longer that way anyway. No reason to spend top dollar for something you're not going to use often.

[@One_of_Many750]

MadCatz Unfortunately Is No More If I Remember. Though Yeah, You Were Able To Find Some Awesome Controllers From Them.

[@cozymonk]

I don't know why, but I've always loved the sounds the Dreamcast made, even when it was new. Yeah, it was noisy, but it sounded high-tech or something. It's kind of a cool sound and for some reason it fit the aesthetic of the console and its games. Like it always felt like new tech that was being pushed to its limit and things were just kinda weird. Edit: noisy, not "moist"... : /

[@RosheenQuynh]

I find the sounds super nostalgic, I love it. 🥰 I miss it so much... I wish it had its own identity in today's world, even if it was, like, a computer or something and not a modern console

[@kevinmitchell766]

I loved the Dreamcast. One of my favorite consoles ever. So many great things like those memory cards with the screen.

[@CHRISK51497]

As a console player, I can attest to the fan being way too loud sometimes b/c there have been times were I thought my console was going to explode, batteries running out, however, I haven't really had to worry about this one b/c I bought a battery pack which has been holding it's own, console exclusive games b/c while I understand why they do it it's really just a shitty thing to do, storage space on consoles b/c while I know I can just finish playing a game or certain games & then move on the itch to play other games is massive & consoles becoming mini PC’s b/c I don't understand what was so wrong about the days were all you had to do was a simple setup & then you could enjoy endless fun while gaming.

[@violetfem1808]

I'm sure this varies - I'm an X user & never had one loud fan to date even when they got older. My Series x is silent. I have a few reasons for console only - cannot afford a high end PC, do not always want to play online or do an update/patch, do not want to keep overworking a pricey PC hard w/ large games plus normal daily PC use, when your PC needs repair you also can't play any games (and that's when I bought my first 360), you need to know PC tech to problem solve game issues or upgrade/change out your hardware like graphics cards etc. There's some issue w/ compatibility of older PC game discs w/ on new OS's.

[@CHRISK51497]

@@violetfem1808 Really I haven't tried an X console & you do make some solid points about being an only console player however like it was said in this video every day there are fewer & fewer differences between consoles & PCs.

[@violetfem1808]

@@CHRISK51497 Ya I totally agree esp. the more MS & Sony offer services to PC players (which is awesome), there's less reason to go console. But I'll never forget 2 incidents - my PC specs didn't support a new game I wanted, so I had to buy a pricey graphix card & other hardware (& have it done at a PC shop) & when I fried my year old PC with *Crysis2* lol. So not only did I not have a PC for periods of time, I had nothing to game on either. Misery. I swore I'd never go thru any of that again - so I bought the 360 & never looked back.. I've just used cheap computers for the little I do on them - no hassles. =)

[@TheRaider8199]

I would just like to say that controller drift is not just a console problem. PC users can use controllers also, which can also experience drift. Also, I've seen PCs that have loud fans and disc drives also.

[@mask86]

Nailed it with the controller drift. I've gone through three Xbox controllers and Joycons due to this. The joycons last a bit longer though, the Xbox Series controllers are terrible!!!!

[@TheErikjsm]

I think that is very much dependant on use, ive had xbox one controllers that dont drift untill 3 years in. My series controller also still doesnt have any and i got it on launch. Feels like a button is more likely to fail atleast in my experience

[@DeadByThousandCuts]

Same with my PS5 controllers, original one and midnight black, both have the same issue 🤷

[@mynameiscastro2089]

I got a series X in March in and 2 weeks later got the drift, can't even get a new one in my country cus the only place I found that sells em is charging 110$

[@believeinmatter]

Xbox Series X is surprisingly quiet, its got a really good cooling system

[@thriftypsgr]

I was going to make this same comment for the ps5. Also I fixed my ps4 pro just by cleaning it and replacing the thermal paste.

[@stanislavkimov2779]

Gimmick is actually a good part. People try to experiment, create something new. Not stagnate for decades with the same controller and design.

[@dantechusa9355]

A 4tb m.2 drive for the Ps5 is around 1000 bucks. Which compounds the problem.

[@Highlander77]

A PNY 4TB PCIe Gen4 m.2 SSD that works in the PS5 can be purchased on Amazon right now for about $600. This is cheaper than what it would cost for 4TB of storage expansion for the Series X (which would have to be purchased as 4 separate memory cards). Sure, it's slightly easier to plug in a memory card into a slot than to pop off the side of the console and remove two screws, but it's still not hard at all to install a 2nd SSD in the PS5, and it's a MUCH better solution than using a proprietary part like Xbox did.

[@dantechusa9355]

@@Highlander77 price drops are inevitable my seagate firecuda was 1000 for the ps5

[@Highlander77]

@@dantechusa9355 Sure, but that was your choice to buy such a large expansion drive early on when the prices were going to be at their highest. It's worth pointing out though that price drops are exactly why the PS5 solution is better. The Series S/X expansion cards are still just as expensive as when they came out. Because they're proprietary, therefore there's no competition to drive down the price.

[@finkitsallover]

@@dantechusa9355 You spent double the price of the console on storage that is a mad lad manoeuvre

[@dangerface300]

A lot of these are pc issues too. Exclusivity, price, storage limitations, parts wear, OTA, even the occaisional backwards incompatibility issues. Some of these can be minimised through more accessible tools such as emulating an earlier version of windows to play games that no longer work on your native OS, but they aren't entirely absent from any side of gaming.

[@kpando4952]

i dunno man, if you mean store Exclusivity that's more a nitpick that anything unless you are a mac user in which case, please... there are no storage limitations only monetary ones in which case this is good because it's totally optional and you have tons of options for storage that don't feel forced. parts may wear but they really last a long time and upgrading a pc is far cheaper than buying an entire console. Occasional backwards incompability sounds like a nitpick too, where games from 1980 may not be compatible with current OS is not like there aren't tools to fix that, the idea that entire communities can assist your OS with many fixes on many fronts is something that consoles don't have due to how restrictive and zealous companies can be. honestly, PC gaming it's the better option for me, im so tired of having to choose between two lesser turds.

[@dau4738]

PC has literally none of these issues

[@KatOwO2235]

also PS4 controllers drained their batteries when they were not in use as in completely turned off, oh gotta use the battery while off for no reason, and then ya gotta keep charging it or play with it plugged in and that eventually ruins the battery and makes it not wanna work unless plugged in or the charger cable is mucked up and ya gotta have it at a specific millimeter angle to work

[@alondrap9659]

I'm Gio and it made me mad because my PS2 controller started drifting

[@Jpilgrim30]

I love the Xbox controller battery situation. You can get rechargeable packs, regular AA’s, or the best way which is to have eneloop pros with extra sets on the charger so you can hot swap and always be wireless. Eneloop pros last a very long time so it feels like you hardly ever have to swap them out.

[@bogdweller27]

Way better than a shitty un-removable lithium ion battery that goes bad after 4 months. Ridiculous that people think that's a good thing.

[@WimHovens]

I miss the Kinect, it was epic! the voice control for everything was awesome! bring it back!!

[@paradsecar]

I’m probably in the minority, but I like that the Xbox controller uses standard AA batteries. I bought a bunch of rechargeable AA’s, so when my controller needs a fresh pair, I just swap them out and don’t have to fiddle with plugging it in or having a second “stand-by” charged controller like with my PlayStation. Plus, at the end of the day, since AA batteries are universal, I can use them with other items I own. Like remotes and…ummm…well, I’m sure there are other things that still use AA batteries. I’ll find some other use for them, I guess.

[@ChitoBandito6]

And you still get to do a cool action reload!

[@underflip2]

I feel like the noice issue is massivly overexagurated. Ive ben playing on consoles and PC all my life and not even once have I had complains about sounds. Are people playing without sound in their games and sit 2 feet away from it? i don't get it

[@DrWho-xe8cf]

Can't talk on PC but PS4 does get loud, only with certain games though. Xbox isn't as loud in my opinion. But I sit close to my PS4

[@tocxik25glance73]

My original Xbox get loud calm down bro

[@thelegandgamer2830]

I didn't have that problem at all and I'm playing on PS4 I mean do people play with the sounds off cuz the game sounds cover all the noise for me

[@juice4826]

I’m extremely disappointed with the ps5 in terms of disc drive . Idk what they did but they messed up on that completely. Almost everyone agrees it’s extremely loud .

[@juice4826]

And also? Yes ? I’d say 2-5 feet away ? My bro you sit across the room while playing a video game ? 💀

[@tryhardnobouken465]

I allways was a PC user i had as a Child 2-3 consoles, When the PS3 released and i knew i couldn't just insert my old discs. That was the point i never bought a console again.

[@ericmatthews9894]

A friend once told me "Once you go PC, you'll never go console again" That statement alone made me curious enough to give it a shot, and yes, he was absolutely correct

[@666Daheretic]

My brother told me that years ago. I should have listened then. He could have saved me thousands from replacing dying ps3 slims and 360 elites. Them damn things would fry themselves constantly. Bought a second hand alienware for college. Played some games on it and been playing PC ever since. Still have consoles but they are mostly for the wife. She likes to game on the xbox more than her PC. I play on the switch in bed but once I get my deck that things going to see the rabbits lol.

[@scottjohnson926]

I have a PC and an Xbox, still prefer my Xbox because my old 3-500 dollar Xbox one still out performs my $1000+ gaming PC in almost every aspect despite being more than twice the age of the PC. The way they’re optimized is just unreal and their ability to run games at the exact same HD graphics and getting up to 60 fps where my PC on the same settings gets an average of 15-30 maximum. Plus an Xbox can run two programs at once just like a PC until you go to 3 it will close a previous program