Amazon Scam PC: Everything is Wrong in the iBUYPOWER Element Mini

[@GamersNexus]

Just to be clear: The iBUYPOWER system we reviewed was *confirmed built and originally sold* by iBUYPOWER. It's not some random seller using their name; they actually built this disgrace. We confirmed via email before publishing. If you want to see more of our pre-built reviews, we have an entire playlist of them here: kzbin.info/aero/PLsuVSmND84QuM2HKzG7ipbIbE_R5EnCLM GN Toolkits are up on back-order! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gamersnexus-tear-down-toolkit - grab one to support us while getting something quality in return. We have been consistently selling through everything we make lately, especially toolkits, so back-ordering will guarantee you get one in the next run! We also looked into what the 80 Plus certification actually means. You can see that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6PLpoKtg8med5Y

[@xt3100]

is this even a real IbuyPower system and not a scam fake?

[@josejimenez896]

If this is true Huge yikes

[@LordSavok]

I was wondering about that. If the seller was puling the videocards for resale and stuffing whatever he could find in there as a replacement. Would explain the Radeon drivers.

[@CJonestheSteam72]

With the exact components that you received? But in 2021 that crazy, why not just use an Intel CPU with integrated graphics

[@Bandit1978]

@@xt3100 Can you read?

[@Prograde]

Finally, a brand new PC that can run retro games at historically accurate framerates!

[@swinnburn]

That would be a plus in selling it,in this day and age of modern game releases recently!?!😬📉

[@ElLocoMonkey2012]

No need for compatability mode! $$$$

[@Imman1s]

Nah, not possible with a missing Turbo button

[@dhgodzilla1]

That Video Card could not even Game when it was New

[@nielsbekkers8283]

Think you get more frames on an OG GameBoy.

[@gerutzu575]

i actually got sad after watching this. some poor parents probably bought it for their kids with their hard earned money

[@pricklycatsss]

It should be illegal, I don't see these as any different from those crypto/NFT scams or any other scam online.

[@fernandomartinez4486]

That is exactly, exactly what I thought.

[@MundMoriginal]

Yeah, well, even a cheap product should be worth it's money and as advertised, but to be frank, those would be some pretty financially irresponsible and ignorant people, to buy this in the first place without spending 5 minutes researching it. A 500 bucks laptop would perform better.

[@erikledding3240]

That's a very good point. The shopper that purchases a gaming PC at this price point is one that is trying to maximize the value of their dollars usually because they don't have many. Ripping these people off is truly disgusting.

[@Daxer2009]

@@pricklycatsss unfortunatly stuff like this is normal with big companies they just dont care about morals because they can not be stopped. To much money and power in the wrong hands

[@beigemaster]

Thoughts and prayers for Dell, who now don’t even get the fame and glory of being the worst pre built ever.

[@arnox4554]

Ehhhhh... No, I think Dell still wins here. lol

[@PCFixer]

Thoughts and prayers for the poor Ryzen 5 3600...

[@LRM12o8]

Dell is so bad, they even suck at being the worst, lol!

[@ThumberBulls6]

They even tried their way of scamming by including the Two year support plan without the customer asking but even on scamming the consumers, they're losing.

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

Bows head in silent prayer.... Meanwhile at Dell: Quick write that down!!!

[@taylorharper1251]

"If it's a low-end system, they're going to strip it down somewhere, they just decided it to be the motherboard, and the ram and also the hard drive and the video card-- but the cpu's right" what a line.

[@MarioMastr]

Where did he say that?

[@reappermen]

@@MarioMastr at 21:30

[@firehawker4822]

He missed re-mentioning the case, though!

[@antiisocial]

lol. yeah

[@elusivelectron]

Good for light gaming like Solitaire and Minesweeper.

[@shukterhousejive]

C'mon Steve, that graphics card delivers perfectly fine performance for the 1 centimeter display listed on the product page!

[@scoobiusmaximus9508]

It's still missing the 1 GB hard drive though.

[@igameidoresearchtoo6511]

@@scoobiusmaximus9508 Yeah! it's a dealbreaker to have it missing!

[@jackmiller8851]

Pixel fill rate: 1

[@jtjones4727]

Oh yeah, you know it can rock the 144p resolution. Got that, all day long.

[@igameidoresearchtoo6511]

@@jtjones4727 I don't think 1 cm is 144p though, more like 1.44p

[@BonusCrook]

Ive actually been using the fermi version of the GT 730, its god awful and belongs on a beach as sand, not in a pc. Should have gone with the 750TI which is actually Maxwell 1.0

[@SquintyGears]

~* the more you know*~ to be fair the 750ti is double the price. When the 900 series launched 750ti was under 150$ while the 730 went for 70ish. I had a very tight teenager budget and i couldn't get a 750ti at the time either. And i needed a card because stuff happened to the desktop... But i was very careful in getting a gddr4 version and it wasn't that terrible. The real travesty is that there are 10 wildly different versions all under the same name.

[@GalileoAV]

The 750TI was my second GPU, and is very close to my heart. Punched well above it's weight

[@ValentineC137]

​@@GalileoAV I used to play VR on my 750ti!

[@bluengold3443]

@@GalileoAV currently on a 750 ti when my rx470 decided to go to valhalla a few months back. Ngl, it aint much but it gets the job done. Only game it cant handle on my library is ac odyssey. Best temporary, cheapo gpu definetly until prices become reasonable again (hopefully)

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The 750 Ti might be double the price, but also more than double the performance. Where the GT 730 gives you 20 fps, the 750 Ti will offer you 45 fps. And that is with the GDDR5 version of the GT 730, the DDR3 model is even slower.

[@submijiru]

12:00 The funniest part in this pre-build is comedic timing of the adhesive tape.

[@unworthyBeatrix]

That tape is a professional, for sure

[@realheyday]

When it popped back in at 18:23 I lost it!

[@scarred537]

the comedic timing of that tape is pro level

[@Ziphon]

Steve, I'm a technician at the Minnesota MicroCenter; I can't tell you how many of this specific model of iBuyPower desktops have come across my desk the past month.

[@dvdv7777]

So the ancient crappy graphics card in that system wasn't a fluke, but is really intended to be in there?

[@Galiant2010]

Heyo. Maybe I'll see ya there, planning to pick up some upgrades there when I get my tax return lol.

[@RonnieMcNutt666]

these pre builts are sick, its even more mindblowing the customer buys it tho i really cant comprehend it

[@lozpopo]

@@RonnieMcNutt666 They buy it because they dont know any better and this company preys on their lack of technological knowledge

[@IllllIIIIllIlllIIl]

yo i go there all the time

[@MrMcGreed]

I love it when Steve gets angry/frustrated enough to "break out the alcohol" and come up with novel combination of words to describe it: "An impressive abomination"; "The crypt-keeper of GPUs"; "Continue watching the train as it piles up, off the tracks"; "The punch-list"; "pre-chewed cables"; "it sucks an order of magnitude more now"; "faster than even a sloths eye can see"; "incompetent regardless of how it performs" :D

[@chubbysumo2230]

Came for the Trainwreck, stayed for the literary masterpiece.

[@Battledongus]

Modern poet!

[@rexxar7227]

Wins the "worse than Dell" award

[@sohamsengupta6470]

Oh it's won that by a margin so hilariously large it doesn't even need mentioning.

[@arnox4554]

Nah, I still think Dell is worse. If anything else, Dell seems to try its damnedest to use proprietary shit in everything, so you can't even salvage a lot of the parts if you wanted to.

[@raiyananindo1371]

Ibuypower going after dell

[@anonanon3066]

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[@zachconant7031]

@@anonanon3066 KZbin so busy removing dislikes they can’t even bother getting rid of thotbots.

[@LuciusVulpes]

Seeing its reviews on Amazon where people say they bught these for their kids just to be met with complete disappointment is just infuriating.

[@BillionaireAuthentic]

My father got me a system like this a couple of years ago before I really know too much about hardware. Believe it or not it was even worse than the system in this video, coming with a GT 730, and running a AMD FX 6300. I was so confused on how my brand new “gaming” pc was running csgo and tf2 at sub 60fps right out the box and running worse than my laptop at the time. Me trying to figure out why it was so bad really was the thing to get me into hardware as I had to scrap money and build my own system. Thank you msi gt 730, I still have you to this day

[@DavidVargas-dy3om]

Hey Walker I have a question regarding on your pc. Did you upgrade and replace the GPU and CPU or did you throw it away the pc entirely. Cause I have the same situation on having the same specs as u and I don't know much about building my own PC. If you did upgrade, do you mind sharing what you did to make the pc better. Like specifically what you bought that replaced your old GPU, CPU, RAM, and SSD card. I bought the same PC in the video as my first ever pc and soon to realize that it sucked. I bought it pre-build cause I had no idea how to assemble a pc only for it to be bad and not even run games that I want to play. Hell I could barely play Gta V in low settings and it was mostly pixelated. I have a GeForce GT 730 for the GPU and a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-core Processeras the CPU, a ADATA SU650 SSD 240GB which can barely store anything, and 8 GB of ram. I have no idea what is compatible with the PC and I don't want to buy something that can't be run on the Pc I have. Any tips would be very appreciated cause I don't want to throw away this pc because it does function and I don't wanna waste more money to buy a new Pc just for it to be the same situation as I have right now. Unless throwing it and buy a better pc is preferable?

[@BillionaireAuthentic]

@@DavidVargas-dy3om so the Ryzen 5 3600 is actually pretty solid and good for a upgrade path as AM4 is a very well supported CPU socket type, if it were up to me , I would definitely upgrade the GPU to something like a GTX 1060, 1660, or a 1650 Super if you are looking for something a lil cheaper. Also if it were up to me I would throw in a extra 8GB of ram and like a 1TB HDD if you are having issues w storage. I’m assuming you’re on a budget but you at least have the Ryzen 5 3600 which is a solid CPU and can serve as a solid foundation for a decent 1080P 60FPS build if you’re on a budget Here’s a chart if you need some extra clarity CPU : Ryzen 5 3600 (keep, it’s good) GPU : GT 730 > GTX 1060,1660,1650 RAM : 8GB > 16GB SSD : Just keep, you only need for like the OS and other start up things, you can buy a 1 TB Hard drive for cheap and get it running real easy. These are my recommendations as it’s what I did when I first upgraded. Keep in mind this was like a couple years ago and I have different specs now but assuming you are still in high school like I was it’s a more than sufficient build for 1080P 60FPS gaming, lmk if you need anything else I live for this shit.

[@DavidVargas-dy3om]

@@BillionaireAuthentic OMG thank you so much for the info yes I was in high school when I got the PC. I was thinking of upgrading the graphic card to a GTX 1660 Ti 6GB. But now I have more reassurance that nothing bad will happen if I replace the GPU. TYSM your comment helped me alot.

[@9.5.9.5]

​@@DavidVargas-dy3omDid you do it

[@DavidVargas-dy3om]

​@@9.5.9.5Yes I did do it. I did everything @BillionaireAuthentic advised me to do. I upgraded the to GPU to a nvidia geforce gtx 1660 ti and installed a 1 TB SSD. I also installed new 16 GB of ram. The pc has been working great until recently. When I play apex the pc would suddenly shut down and restart or I get the window blue screen of death. I used the free website called whocrashed and it helped assume the reason of why it was happening. It may be that the cpu is getting overheated so now im waiting to get my hands on thernal paste to apply on cpu and hopefully would solve the issue.

[@clemondgriffin7551]

I love his cascading disappointment the further we get into these pre-built videos. The builds are seriously trainwrecks.

[@sammer28]

I'm honestly surprised the CPU was right.

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

Glad I decided to build my own PC, everyone told me to avoid pre-builds. They always overpriced, I am currently collecting PC parts to build my first PC

[@BoomNoBastic]

@@TheBlueBunnyKen There's a place for pre-builts. I was going to build a new PC for my game room, but with GPUs going WAY above MSRP. I just bought a prebuilt. A prebuilt that cost the same as an RTX 3070.. with an RTX 3070 in it.

[@JohnDoe-cq9no]

Purchased a $2,300 prebuilt from iBuyProblems that was put together wrong and doesn't work. I don't even know how it could have passed the "inspection".

[@cristi724]

The cumulated "fuckedupness" of this whole PC deserves some fines from regulators just for existing. 1. Nvidia naming scheme, which is obviously misleading. 2. iBuyPower for making and selling this eWaste in 2021. 3. Amazon for their solid marketplace quality.

[@beardsntools]

and msi for co-designing that graphics card

[@petermichaelgreen]

@@beardsntools do we know if the graphics card was made/sold by MSI recently? or if it's just old stock from when the GPU on it was a current product? in the latter case it doesn't seem we can really blame MSI.

[@beardsntools]

@@petermichaelgreen I think it was made back then, that would be the best scenario... however, they still sell their old and outdated graphics(but only to other companies), so essentially helping a prebuild company to make rigs like this.

[@aaaaaaaaaa97]

@@beardsntools MSI is shady these days.....careful what you buy of them.

[@malcolmisk00l]

capitalism baby

[@makwikus]

If anything, that glass panel's frame should be commended for its impeccable comedic timing.

[@charlie7mason]

I know, the whole thing with the flipping corner was perfectly timed like it was specifically written for a high-quality comedy movie.

[@Mugnum_]

I guess the 1Gb and 1cm thing came from whichever software they used to print documentation. It probably didn't allow them to specify "no hard drive, no display" and instead inputted lowest possible values

[@hexerade.e6142]

Or its the video memory of the gt „730“

[@roxymigurdia-t5p]

Out of all the shoddy pre-built systems you've reviewed, this absolutely takes the sand cake!

[@Ralphfish4]

"We are a professional team, studying in computer memory and storage devices industry for more than 10 years." That's definitely a combined 10 years.

[@hubertnnn]

Hmm, RAM manufacturer is in the market for 10 years, and the GPU in that PC is 10 years old. Sus.

[@mxn1948]

im mean, there wasn't anything actually wrong that that ram, it could run 3000 at cl15.

[@alexskywalker888]

It was a typo. They accidently put a zero after the one.

[@mateusmt6194]

The RAM has better die/ranks than my Corsair 8GB 2400MHz CL16.... lmao.

[@rvngicvirns5621]

Between 5 different 2 year olds

[@Faruq-xn4gj]

They must be pretty desperate. The GPU shortage is so bad, they used 10 years old low end GPU that much slower than iGPU and APU.

[@TheKazragore]

They would've been legitimately better off going with a 3400G with no GPU instead...

[@jakublulek3261]

And you will have hell of a time to find drivers that work.

[@Faruq-xn4gj]

@@TheKazragore Or 5600G

[@Voyajer.]

@@jakublulek3261 I'm actually morbidly curious if that GPU can take the 472.12 driver for 700 series cards, or if it needs 391.35 for 400 series cards. Edit: just saw they needed the 391.35 driver, lmao

[@S9uareHead]

@@Voyajer. Pretty sure it needs 391.35, being a Fermi card.

[@everythingrc2324]

“ 1 centimeter, I’m assuming diagonally” I lost it 😂 this is one of the best and funniest pre built reviews yet. LOVE these please don’t stop them!

[@Animize]

"Ibuypower is trying to improve" - a few minutes later.... "welcome to the worst PC we have tested so far!"

[@Lucian_Andries]

They evolved backwards!

[@waigl1845]

To be fair, this is probably a slightly older model. Not as old that GPU would suggest, but still, maybe older than their current plans for improving themselves.

[@anonony9081]

He only said they improved their QC process. They quality checked all the components and confirmed they were shit quality before shipping, aren't you happy?

[@MrLince-hr4of]

what´s the problem ? it is not burning :D

[@tissueoflies2780]

@@MrLince-hr4of The problem is that it isn't burning

[@nian60]

This was hilarious. And tragic, because you just know that unsuspecting parents and grandparents will buy this for kids. Thanks for the video.

[@tmarritt]

Christmas is coming up, this thing is gonna run minecraft worse than lil timmys phone.

[@dragontales1999]

Oh man I feel horrible for the kids who will be very disappointed after dad buys this and it can't even run Minecraft at 30FPS

[@tmarritt]

@@dragontales1999 rarely would I recommend buying a console, but if prebuilt PCs are like this? At least with a console you know your getting a certain level of quality.

[@dragontales1999]

@@tmarritt yea I mean the Series S is a decent alternative to a mid range computer until things start getting better (maybe in like 2023 or 2024), then you could sell it or something and, maybe get a used 3070 by then. Either that or the GPU pricing is forever fucked and 1080p GPUs will still be 300 bucks

[@dragontales1999]

Not to mention the Series S is relatively easier to find. Found some at a Target once.

[@Hiddukel1]

lmfo... love the commentary regarding the 1GB HDD... wtf lol. Would definitely be worth something to a collector. Jeezus, haven't seen those floating around as a talking piece since the 90s.

[@darkoleskovsek2558]

The fact that ibuypower was okay with putting their name ob a system like this and charge actual money for it is mindblowing.

[@BL33NB]

For shit like this companies need to bleed, like repay 10x worth of the scam.

[@davidgill3356]

They are world class scumbags, if there was a buck in it they did it.

[@shanester366]

@@davidgill3356 I bought a ibuypower laptop many many years ago, was a total pos.

[@davidgill3356]

@@shanester366 Mine came with broken components, the cpu fan wasn’t even attached and it wouldn’t boot up. I live close by so I drove it over there and they “promised” they would send me one in 3 days with none of the problems. I asked them how they could promise that now but couldn’t get it right the first time? Just give me back my money, they did minus $50 for shipping (after all, why should they have to take any responsibility at all?). They are such unbelievable dirtbags they got busted by Yelp for posting positive reviews of themselves but they didn’t even bother to spread them out or have different people write them. They were back to back to back, all from the same ip address, all with the same grammatical and spelling errors and all just one or two sentences. Not only scumbags but ducking stupid ones too. Sorry for the rant, but seeing this has awakened the rage lol.

[@volvo09]

Purely made to scam unknowing people. That graphics card is atrocious....

[@xm8553]

Steve: “I’ve given you the conclusion, if you want to stay to watch the train wreck you can keep watching.” Us: “that’s why we’re here”

[@EricParker]

OEMs / System Integrators have been doing this for years, I remember back in 2013, having to talk a friend out of buying a PC with a GT 610 and a core i5, marketed as a "gaming system".

[@evilspoons]

The video card's trash, but an i5 could have been a perfectly good gaming system in 2013 depending on the model. An i5-3570k was solid for like 6+ years after release.

[@EricParker]

@@evilspoons That's the point. Good CPU trash GPU.

[@biuuuwulf6975]

@@EricParker I owned a system with that exact gpu back then. It was a painful experience.

[@NowThatsGreg]

@@evilspoons Still gaming on my overclocked 3570k in 2021, Forza Horizon 5, Squad, Modern Warfare 2019 all run fine. Not great, but definitely playable

[@m8x425]

There were a lot of weird scams back then. I remember trying to talk people out of building PC's with Power Supply Units that were made by Fly by Night companies.

[@DeepJJ1269]

“Just to make sure you heard me correctly…that’s G, not T.” Wow lol!! My brain literally did not register the severity on the memory (among other things) until you pointed it out. There are some things we just assume about on this day and age, and clearly this pc is not one of them.

[@CyborgPilord]

Just goes to show, never buy a computer listed on April Fool's Day.

[@maxfmfdm]

@@felaayuniayunia7273 WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHITSTORM?????

[@ModernOddity728]

@@maxfmfdm Don't engage bots, just report them. lol

[@Dorumin]

@@ModernOddity728 but what if it's love?

[@dragontales1999]

No wonder it's a scam!

[@ross4814]

I rarely comment on Gamers Nexus's videos, but I am so impressed with you and your teams commitment and determination. To test a machine that actually scored 3 FPS on a video game had to have been such a frustrating task. I salute you and you're team.

[@LOLHICRONO]

your*

[@XZ-III]

it's not really frustrating but ok...

[@TheWayabo]

At that point is not frustrating, it is hilarious

[@cIeetz]

i dont think its frustrating for Him. Hes too light hearted. He just likes ripping wack companies and products.

[@yesyes-om1po]

@@XZ-III if you dont think its frustrating you've never built a pc or had to fix one

[@NorthSudan]

There is no overstating how much I love the random molex centipedes in these things

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

PSU (with a thick german accent): "FEED HER!!!"

[@michaelmcdoesntexist3845]

I love warranty void stickers. In my experience it just means they put their logo on someone else's product and the sticker hides the evidence. It was literally the case with my replacement laptop battery.

[@ProGentleman]

Those stickers are illegal in the US, and have been since 1975 (see 'Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act'). If only more countries followed suit.

[@hyper8545]

Omfg i feel bad for all the kids who get these bad builds for Christmas and can't even play a game 😪 keep doing these reviews because these pre builders need a kick in the face.

[@batarasiagian9635]

Strongly agree.

[@GreenAppelPie]

I went with this brand last year based on Linus’ tech tips last year, it’s still doing great. But when a company does shit like this, they get a boycott from me.

[@bluesonicstreak7317]

Yeah, the snarky reviews are funny until you realize some poor kid is probably getting this exciting "it lights up!" new "gaming" PC for Christmas and then is crushed with disappointment when it can't even launch a modern game.

[@derpenstein713]

I would absolutely love to see Ibuypower's response to this video of they're even brave enough to respond....

[@CRneu]

@@Gubers they confirmed it was sold by iBuyPower. It came directly from them.

[@rjacks3284]

nah its just amazon being a scam as usual. third party seller inflating price.

[@ChrisMDSmith79]

@@Gubers at the end he said that ibuypower built and sold it through Amazon.

[@SuperFlamethrower]

@@Gubers Those errors are the seller's fault, he said.

[@ChrisMDSmith79]

@@Gubers his pinned post at the top says iBuyPower confirmed they built it. Pre-builts here in the UK are not much better than the USA. We have the same shitty Dell/Alienware, CyberPower in the UK is horrendous as their US counterparts - they sold an AMD 5950X with a faulty motherboard (it was delivered to a friend of mine and I watched them open it up, unbox it, plug in the power lead and nothing so I swapped out everything and worked out it was the board and they refused to accept it back luckily I had a spare exact same board and used that to get my friend back up and running), HP are not great.

[@chireaionut8473]

It's "crucial" that ppl avoid to buy those pc's as "you can literally see it" is a scam. Back to you, Steve.

[@wboyd33]

"Pop" goes the side panel.

[@grumblekin]

I bought an iBuypower PC about 10 years ago and it wasn’t a bad system. Sad to see they slipped so much

[@thejosephchrist]

I've bought two of them and had good experiences with each (the last one about 7 years ago) but I never bought their complete pre-build. Rather I chose component by component and just had them put it together. I'm wondering if that gets better results.

[@xMidan]

It was probably the same model LOL

[@schiz0phren1c]

It was probably this same model Grumblekin!...they just slapped a few new stickers on the remaining models, blew the dust off and VOILA! lol! Sorry Midan!, didn't spot you'd beaten me to the comment by 4 days until now!

[@henryfleischer404]

I bought one 2 years ago, and aside from the graphics card dying 2 years in, it was good. I did pick each part individually though.

[@jonathanmcniel6483]

I bought one almost a year ago. It works great.

[@Norweeg]

I love how you call things as they are. Unfortunately it’s somewhat rare to see such journalistic integrity at the standard you hold yourself too. Thanks for being awesome! For that reason, I bought a set of your drink coasters for everyone in my office.

[@MisterFribble]

Nice profile pic BTW. Great album.

[@kilm2232]

It's hard for some tech content creators to hold companies to account when a lot of their features are fully sponsored by the big companies..... Integrity doesn't exist when they fund your content

[@Norweeg]

@@MisterFribble Thanks, I agree! I actually get replies on KZbin more about my profile pic way more than any responses about what I had to say. 🤣

[@Nauda999]

Yes, it has 8 GB Ram instead of 16 GB listend, and 240GB ssd instead of 1GB listed, I bought HP notebook in year 2009 and it had listed 1TB RAM, but it actually had only 1 GB, I even protested, but clearly I knew that it was just a typo, not even servers had 1TB of RAM back then.

[@mikeamber2528]

@bruh meme Read the pinned comment. IBuyPower literally admits that they built the system.

[@BlueSpectre]

i didnt know a pc tear down could be pure comedy till today, i was laughing so hard lol, the "twang" of the sticky metal popping up on the glass panel over and over had me dying

[@roxymigurdia-t5p]

IT HAS A GROWTH!

[@carlosgomez_c137]

I love Steve's style to review junk hardware, but there's a really mad issue behind that: chinese EVERYTHING fake parts, and a full lack of laws about it. They are hurting really bad a lot of companies (and global economy) with total impunity.

[@Fatman311]

I literally watch these for the humour.

[@FinalSentinel]

Never thought a piece of metal could have such perfect comedic timing.

[@heaveline]

Especially the last one bring so delayed xD

[@Mikeywil0003]

I have a theory of what iBUYPOWER did with this machine. I believe they had a bunch of these with good AMD GPUs in them to be sold at a higher price point, already built in stock. I think they pulled all the good GPUs out of them to scalp, and threw those Aliexpress spec Nvidia cards in them so that they could be sold.

[@shanez1215]

Imo it's either that or iBuyPower couldn't get GPU's themselves and needed SOMETHING to make a Ryzen system even usable (no iGPU).

[@APeopleP3rson]

​@@shanez1215God forbid they just not sell any Ryzen systems at that point, if that's the case.

[@richardbeckenbaugh1805]

Even a 5600G or a 5700G has more graphics power than this dGPU. They could have bought a 5600G for $10 more and saved on buying a video card at all.

[@JohnDoe-cq9no]

Good theory, that is probably what happened. I Purchased a $2,300 prebuilt from iBuyProblems that was put together wrong and doesn't work. I don't even know how it could have passed the "inspection".

[@guccipucci69420]

​@JohnDoe-cq9no You got scammed mate

[@failingup4907]

How are companies like this not getting sued? An 10-11 yr old video card in that thing. WTF!

[@r34ztune11]

Reminds me of scams in my country with 'gaming' prebuilts listed as 'i5-10400, 16GB of RAM, 4GB VRAM GPU'. People see the '4GB VRAM GPU' and think it's gonna be great, but if you scroll down and look at the specs, it's actually an R7 240 4GB DDR3. I wrote a comment on the ad explaining how this is a scam and of course the seller blocked that comment from being shown. This stuff should be punishable by law, as it really is a scam. Imagine all the clueless people buying this stuff, only to discover it's only good for ultra-low settings at 30fps(if you're lucky) in most titles.

[@dsilverleaf4668]

Like when u buy a pc frim London Drugs or Canadian Tire 😂😂😂*btw dont ever, ever do that!

[@Vengir]

I don't disagree, but one of the first things you should learn is that VRAM alone cannot be an indication of performance. Just look at RX 480 8 GB or Radeon VII (to be fair, those at least would be at least decent at the right price).

[@Space_Reptile]

the wireless is listed as "802.11ab" .... i really hope they ment 802.11ac as ab, alongside not being an actual standard, would mean 802.11a or b, wich would make it the original 1997 spec or its first commercial revision from 1999, bosting blazing speeds of 1.2 to up to 11 *Mbit*

[@protogen_boi]

but it didn't even have wireless.. did it?

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Wait, that is about as fast as USB1.1, so I guess that wifi card is not even worth the money for my Pentium III rig. But 802.11ac would be fine.

[@TheGodOfAllThatWas]

"A" went up to higher then 11.... Quick google says 54, I seem to recall a very few cards that did both "A" and "B" but yeah, still obsolete that was back before G, or N, or AC, or 6...... That'd be quite a far bit back..

[@Space_Reptile]

@@TheGodOfAllThatWas 54mbit is 802.11g en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11#Protocol

[@teura5509]

The motherboard was A320M/ac, so it does indeed have 802.11ac, and ab was just a typo.

[@johnnysm5346]

I kept laughing when Steve started comparing it to the Aya Neo, the Atari, when he mentioned that it ran at 3.3 FPS, and straight up died when he pulled up a chart for Rocket League where the integrated graphics worked better, 10+ for Steve's humour, even though I am aware he cried in agony over this system.

[@fish_h]

Don’t worry, it performs like a 3060ti because of the rgb fans. Everyone knows having tempered glass and rgb matters more than actual hardware!

[@symphoricquoz3763]

"Molex Centipede, Buried in the Nightmare" was my favourite boss fight from the Elden Ring beta.

[@spartacus778]

fucking spat out my Mountain Dew reading this well done, sir Praise the sun and bless the pot boi

[@thrace_bot1012]

Foul Tarnished, playing as a Prebuilt ?!?

[@spartacus778]

@@thrace_bot1012 ABS Challenger: I command thee KNEEL!

[@andrewbarlit3759]

"It's hard to conceptualize nothingness" It can be applied not only to the missing 1GB drive, but to the whole prebuilt as well, I think

[@Knowbody42]

Nothing is the absence of something. If you want to know what nothing is, you need to know what something is. Space is not nothing. Space is space.

[@empath69]

@@Knowbody42 ...you really missed the joke, didn't you?

[@Knowbody42]

@@empath69 You really missed the joke, didn't you?

[@giserson2]

The funniest thing with the GT 730 (GT 430) is that it might actually be worse than a GT 710 GDDR5.

[@j2simpso]

IIRC Nvidia changed the naming of their graphics cards to Golf scores at the time (lower is better)

[@danielhall6805]

@@j2simpso no

[@reik019]

The Kepler GT 710 2GB GDDR5 is actually faster than the trans-generational GT 440 bundled in this POS of computer, mainly due to a far faster core clock, more than double the shaders and far more recent architecture, Fermi GT 710s are obviously crappier than that paperweight GPU that was bundled with this thing. BTW, the 19W TDP of a GT 710 allows for some ridiculous overclocking potential, from it's slow core clock, 950-ish MHz, I got one of those up to 1,530MHz at 1.32V (The maximum the Kepler BIOS can request) upping the power draw to around 45-55W via BIOS modding, and I had to downclock the VRAM to reach such power headroom, with no performance penalty. It's actually not that far from a Kepler GT 730 GDDR5 on anything but power consumption, eating up almost twice as much power and generating around 1.5x times more heat.

[@yourforeignlocal]

The thing with Amazon listings is that they often change the listed product while still using the same page from older listings. That's why often you will see reviews and mentions of other products under the reviews section for the product you are looking at, which is very messed up :p

[@JM-rb2or]

"If it gets destroyed in shipping, UPS is doing everyone a favor anyway". LMAO 🤣

[@ACOnetwork]

Yep, I agree 🤣😂

[@kgonepostl]

The fact that they are named "iBuyPower" is profoundly ironic.

[@badhusband1902]

tbh just with the name I sense scam

[@josebonilla101]

Well, it seems you do get to buy the power... to be scammed

[@franzescodimitra8815]

"Ironic BuyPower"

[@hubertnnn]

Well you have to buy a lot of power, At least more than you would have to use for an integrated GPU.

[@DustyD0]

With the inefficiency of Firmy, you do end up buying a lot of power to run it i guess 🤔

[@megan_alnico]

I'd love to see two builds at the end of this year. One is the ultimate disappointment PC made of the worst of the worst of the worst parts in all of these pre-built. And the second being the best you could possibly scrounge together. Adjust a few benchmarks, not a lot, just a few to show how ultimately bad and only kind of middlingly good these things can be.

[@GB-zi6qr]

@Unknown Last name I second this suggestion!!!

[@Neuttah]

How would all that jive with one of the better PSUs being 12Vo? 🤔

[@i8thesheets]

iBuyPower sold me a DOA PC last year and I was never able to get a fix or replacement. Ended up using the case and power supply and scrapped everything else. Was a shitty learning lesson, but it led to my first PC build. Went from an Intel i7 build with 16gb of off brand ram to an Asus board, AMD Ryzen 7th gen, 1660ti gforce gpu, 32gb ballistic ram, 1tb ssd, 2tb hdd and water cooler. Next plan is a better GPU, power supply and double up the ram.

[@jamieprosser8185]

I love the idea of every PC build now having a 1GB HDD somewhere as a nod to past.

[@Apawcalypse_Meow]

and a WiFi card that supports 802.11ab standard that allows you to get incredible high speeds up to 11 mbps* for b and uncountenanceable 54 mbps* for a * the real speeds you get are slower due to environmental conditions

[@CruelestChris]

@@Apawcalypse_Meow Ha, do you think you can sucker me into buying such an extravagance? I'm not parting with my hard-earned monies for anything above 300 baud for my telecomputating-contraption.

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

I would love to be able to hook up my 100MB HD...there's some files there I want. But it's Amiga OS, so that might be a small problem.

[@noth606]

@@TheEudaemonicPlague I know you are saying it as a joke but there is stuff to do exactly that, very messy and unlikely to be easy. I did it once years ago, never again.

[@tristikov]

Lmao, absolutely brutal... Was this a serious "hold my beer" moment for system builders lowering the pre-built bar?

[@jackmiller8851]

No human would make this. It has to be machine assisted part picking. Someone somewhere had a fire sale on ancient OEM gpu's and some dude in china who owns a factory put them onto new dodgy boards and the rest is history.

[@xPLAYnOfficial]

What a complete joke. I just built a PC for a client with a 1650, 16GB of DDR4, a 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, 7th Gen i5.... for $710. And that's with us making plenty of money on that system and including labor. Such a joke that a "professional" prebuilt manufacturer seems to be getting beaten by a boutique computer building company with less than 10 employees. Ouch.

[@Flootyy]

When companies get big, they begin to do shady stuff because they can get away with it. When you're trying to grow a company, you gotta give it your all. Of course, not every big company is like this but you get my point

[@smokeskull]

What do you define "plenty of money" I think your lieing unless you live in an impoverished third world company

[@knodel2378]

@@0047-r5d He said the PC is for a client, companies usually dont have to pay scalper prices for their hardware because they are buying them B2B, not retail.

[@neilsiebenthal9254]

@@spliffburton3621 who do you think makes everything?...

[@FeedMeSalt]

@@0047-r5d No, no it doesn't. I can get them at my staples for about 300cad. Used 1070s are going for about 4-500 rn

[@blahbaconblah]

11 years ago I bought my first pc from iBuypower with a GT460 in it. Seeing that card in the video gave me flashbacks, although this one seem much more modern. Back then I lived very close to the iBuypower HQ and decided to go pick my pc up in person rather than have it shipped. Two weeks later the cpu water cooler leaked and ruined the gpu. After fighting with them over replacing parts, they agreed to replace the cpu cooler and the gpu damaged by the leak. I went in and one employee came over and swapped out the cooler right in front of me with a Ryobe 12v drill. Dude just straight up went at it. He didn't even replace the thermal compound. I at the time had no idea what I was watching. I literally was still playing games on my xbox 360 at the time and just didn't realize what I was witnessing. Ever since I gained enough experience with pcs to understand how terrible they are as a builder I have made a point to mention this. I have seen the inside of their "Wearhouse" and its more sweatshop than boutique pc builder.

[@Mr__Geno]

Found this channel and glad I did. I'm not fully confident in buying parts and putting them together so I may prefer to go Pre-built for my first desktop gaming PC, but watching these vids gives me so much knowledge I don't think I could have found on my own. Salute goes out to you @Gamers Nexus.

[@Neph-v5r]

Unless you've already bought a pre built one then dont. I built my first PC 4yrs ago. At the time I knew absolutely nothing about them but I wanted a PC for gaming & was going to go pre build until I saw a KZbin clip about building your own & quickly realised the benefits far outweighed my perceived (but wrong) thoughts about the hassle involved. I found all the info I needed online. KZbin channels such as this where a god send. I'm not technically minded at all but it really wasnt that difficult. I spent 4 months saving cash & researching & when all the parts arrived I had it built in an afternoon. I was totally amazed that the first time I pressed the button it actually switched on & worked 😂😂 I'm just about to start building my second one, the final part I needed arrived the other day (The GPU, an RTX 3070ti). Its not only (imo) cheaper & all the individual parts are what you wanted but its a great sense of satisfaction, everytime you switch it on you can think 'I actually built that' (The novelty has worn off a bit for me now though 🤣) So just go for it mate. Try not to get too into it though as it can get VERY expensive. I've recently fallen down the custom mechanical keyboard building rabbit hole. I didn't even know it was 'a thing' but I built my first one a couple of months ago & im already planning my next one, once you start you'll never be able to afford to eat well again 🤣🤣 Good luck.

[@DrSmugface]

There are good prebuilt pcs out there .. You just have to inform yourself about them talk with customers

[@pricklycatsss]

@@LTNetjak I know you're only trying to brag but saying you've been building computers for over 2 decades is not gonna convince someone it's "easy" lmao that just makes it sound worse.

[@QoraxAudio]

Just take some time to learn about which components to get. It's not that hard once you have the right components. I've built my first PC at 14 - if a 14 y/o can do it, most people can. Just free up some afternoon to build it and don't rush it. One thing is for sure: getting a good pre-built PC is way harder than building a good PC yourself, since there are just too many bad choices.

[@OShackHennessy]

@@pricklycatsss I didn’t take that as a brag

[@dalkgamler]

The question is how does it have a 4star rating on Amazon with 400 reviews? I mean nobody would in their right mind give it 5 stars

[@nikhilgopichand3350]

Because people are really, really stupid.

[@cxeron]

Well, bots

[@Right-Is-Right]

Morons that give reviews because they are relieved to have the Christmas present for little Timmy, already wrapped and ready to be put under the tree. They will change their minds on Christmas day.

[@5federline]

It because they not tear down this pc like GN do. If they ever tear it down, for sure they will choose to build the pc on their own instead of buying a prebuilt. If they do, can you return the pc to ibuypower after looked at that trash? How many people have knowledge on pc. Yourself didn't know about this pc until watched GN video. So do others hundred or million peoples out there. LMAO

[@Lucromis]

Paid reviews

[@sleepydragonzarinthal3533]

"WiFi ready" had me crackin up so bad, like oh good, they didn't remove a Pcie socket OR the USB ports, great....

[@devin8656]

The perfectly timed, continual cuts to the panel popping off the double faced adhesive had me laughing hysterically.

[@Chiefhao]

Steve i truly believe that you're giving the shippers more credit then they're allowed. I've worked in those warehouses and I've personally seen what happens to those boxes as they're getting loaded into the delivery vans. Least to say just, because the box doesn't show signs of damage doesn't mean that personnel haven't thrown it down the grid iron a few times and back to each other as if it the package wasn't a football

[@supertrix6628]

the movie pet detective with jim carry impersonating a delivery person describes your view -d this ones going down town ! as he football kicks the package down the sidewalk lol

[@951258tike22]

I'm just happy to see a follow up to the MOLEX Centipede. It's my absolute favorite nonsense thing pre-builts do

[@AceWing905]

The GF108 makes me feel nostalgic. Back when I had very little money, I got a GT 520 which was again this same GPU. Nvidia sure loves rebranding this thing again and again. This was around 2011, and I was playing games at 1366x768 simply because it couldn't handle anything higher. The fact that it's in a new gaming PC ten years after that is utterly mind boggling to me.

[@martinus_mars]

1366x768? I still ran a monitor with that resolution in 2019

[@AceWing905]

@@martinus_mars I did until 2017. Close enough

[@Revoku]

I have a gpu that I use for flashing GPU's vbios after I screwed up by putting it in the second pcie slot, it is of unknown age and quality(but I have had it for 10 years and it was old and slow then) and it performs better than the GPU in that system

[@flowerthencrranger3854]

@@martinus_mars I did until October of this year

[@flowerthencrranger3854]

@@Revoku Would you mind running this on GPU-z, I’m really curious of what model it is

[@foogod4237]

FYI, I'm pretty sure that the reason things like that RAM sticker say "warranty void if removed" is simply because that sticker contains the batch/serial information which they need to scan in order to process the warranty claim properly in their systems when it's returned. It's purely a procedural/documentation thing, not a damage/tampering issue.

[@foogod4237]

@@Avendesora Yes, which is why _they didn't put it anywhere that necessitates removal for repairs._ I'm not sure whether you maybe actually didn't watch the video (specifically, 20:35, for reference), but the whole point was that the "warranty void if removed" sticker on the RAM was obviously not serving as a tamper-detection sticker here, so the question was why would the warranty be void if it was removed in that case? I was pointing out that there are other reasons _in addition to_ tamper detection why a manufacturer might conceivably need/want a sticker to remain in place for warranty purposes, too.

[@MafiaboysWorld]

You know the GPU shortage is bad when SI's decide GPU's from 2010 are sufficient for a 2021 PC. 🤦

[@mrducky179]

sufficient is quite a stretch

[@glyrin.e]

Even cost wise an iGPU has to be cheaper, right? I really don't get it

[@eideticex]

Hell of it is. They could have still slapped old GPUs in and got significantly better results. The graphics card I'm using currently is from 2014, still runs most games I throw at it around 60FPS. It's limiting factor is memory size, a mere 2GB which just isn't enough to fit all the render targets for a modern game ramped up on settings but if the game offers scaling the back buffer you only really have to drop to 90% to ramp everything except shadow resolution. That's around the time when cards jumped from tens of execution units to hundreds and sometimes thousands in the low/mid range category. I have ran into some games that just wont run smoothly but out of all the random games I've played trying out the myriad of choices to find the handful I like, only two games have been so bad that I couldn't simply dial back to graphics settings that are nice but not a huge loss to drop. Mostly DXVK and better drivers have made those cards shine like they could have if we weren't burning through series so rapidly.

[@deanchur]

@Captain_Morgan Was looking at putting something similar together for my niece's first PC; was pushing her towards a 10100F and RX550 but she ended up buying a friend's PC because theirs had RGB and the one I was assembling didn't...nevermind that she got stuck with a HDD and 6yo CPU.

[@thiscoldlife100]

It seems to be getting hilariously worse, roughly two weeks until Christmas and Amazon now has this monstrosity listed for $915.38! Gotta love holiday inflation. At least they seem to have the RAM size listed correctly now...

[@EchoCian]

My actually capable modern gaming laptop cost ~$200 less than that. Hell it's more than I paid for the gaming desktop I bought 8 years ago when its parts were current, which only just last year finally needed a motherboard upgrade. This is such a blatant scam.

[@Caphalem]

This is probably the most entertaining PC related video I've seen in a while. I think that that PC shines in being the subject of video on how bad it is as it lets content creators really flex their creative muscles on describing how bad it is.

[@ilovefunnyamv2nd]

that isn't a PC, its a crime against Gamers and Filthy Casuals EVERYWHERE.

[@b4ttlemast0r]

12:46 you forgot to check the "voltage: 100240 Volts" 😂

[@marlopainter8246]

Commenting before watching: Bought my mom an iBuyPower from NewEgg cuz I was lazy and just wanted something for her... needless to say.. within 6 months, I rebuilt it with a new mobo, cpu, ram, psu, hdd, and gpu... The case is the only thing still working.

[@TWEEMASTER2000]

thank god someone is making good computer content that actually addresses the flaws in the PC market right now, thanks for all the hard work y'all do

[@tbthunderer]

This PC makes me feel excellent about the $600 HP I bought that came with an R5 3500 and GTX 1650 Super. Felt pretty stupid about it after getting a good look at the GPU.... but this one makes mine look like gold! Especially considering I get about 10x the performance in most instances. For less money at that....

[@astroidexadam5976]

the GTX 1650 Super is an okay budget gaming card

[@tbthunderer]

@@astroidexadam5976 I agree, I'm happy with it's performance until I can upgrade. The cooling on it is a bit underwhelming since the memory modules aren't exactly properly cooled since it an HP OEM sku. I'd really like to replace it with a 2070/3060 or an RX 6600/6700. Can't really find any anywhere near MSRP around here though. But in the meantime I'm happy with the 1650S, runs anything I want it to, assuming I'm running 1080p with settings adjusted on a per game basis.

[@asknight]

I paid $699 last year at Wal-Mart for a CyberPowerPC Ryzen 5 5500, MSI PRO-B550M-VC, Radeon 6700, 16GB Teamgroup DDR4, 1TB WD SN-580 NVME and it has been rock solid.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

They've been pushing GT 710s and 730s for the last ~2 years. I just bought my daughter an A10-8850 APU, which is an old part, for 25$ off ebay a few weeks ago and it outperforms the GT 730 on G3D by 40% - and they're pushing those trash GT 700 series cards for like 100$ when they can hardly do anything at all. More power to these companies pushing them on the market like they're worth something because stupid people need to be taxed somehow, as if NFTs aren't doing a good enough job already. We live in a time of scams now guys, nobody can afford to deliver an honest product or service nowadays.

[@PulsarTECH]

That's crazy how inaccurate those computer specs are, I've seen that a lot on Amazon, where one part of the description says one thing, and then the second part specifies completely different. Thanks for bringing that up and protecting consumers from misinformation. 1 cm monitor would be pretty rare nowadays 😁👍

[@KyokujiFGC]

The sad part is that even if they were accurate, this would still be a huge rip-off.

[@gunthergunthus4380]

That's why you don't buy things that need to be right from Amazon. Amazon sells trash at good prices they have not the slightest interest in their products quality.

[@N0Reaver]

I think that the only way it can reach 60fps on a 1cm display with that gpu

[@PulsarTECH]

@@N0Reaver lol maybe

[@petergrenon5023]

What's even crazier is that this PC isn't sold anywhere BUT amazon with those specs.

[@AurickLeru]

Even though you told us the conclusion near the beginning, it's like seeing a car wreck: You know it's bad before you get there, but you still have the urge to slow down to see just how bad. Looking at the details and especially the timestamp at 12:10 , yes it was originally built by ibuypower, but sold by Oceanus Deals, who put incorrect information. If you read through the full product description at the top of the Amazon page, they do specify only 8GB of RAM and a 240 GB hard drive. However, it does gets scammy when incorrect information gets entered into the fields used for the product details and comparisons to make the computer appear better than it is, but that's more on the vendor/Amazon than ibuypower. And I bet a regular consumer trying to return the computer for not having the specs listed in the product details will get stuck in a loop: The vendor will claim they did put the real specs in the full description and it's Amazon's fault for the incorrect information, and Amazon will claim it's the vendor's fault for putting the wrong info in those fields. Yeah, we like to see you shit on a computer that's obviously bad, but you can also turn this video into a PSA about buyer beware purchasing anything on Amazon from a vendor other than the official brand store. In short, whenever buying on Amazon, read the ENTIRE page and don't just glance at product comparisons or product detail summaries. Look for any discrepancies between what the full description and the summary says. If they don't match up or some info looks weird, go somewhere else. Also, make sure when you're buying a specific brand of pre-built to do it from their official Amazon store instead of from a third-party vendor.

[@AurickLeru]

@@Jtzkb But it can be rather dishonest to imply all the errors and the pricing on the page are from ibuypower when it's the 3rd party vendor doing it. Again, I agree it's a shit system, but they could be clearer on exactly where it came from and who posted the info and specs.

[@rogerwilco2]

Don't buy from Amazon. They not a company with practices we should support. For anything.

[@Shizzmoney74]

+1 on this. I will also add reading the reviews helps too, although sellers often change profiles to get around that. This behavior on amazon just doesnt exist on computers, sadly...

[@neilosadchy6265]

I find it amusing that you are trying to defend this computer and both the company who built it and the seller who sold it. Who do you work for as this seems highly suspect?

[@AurickLeru]

@@neilosadchy6265 Read what I said, and tell me where I'm defending the computer, the brand, or the reseller. I already said a couple times here and in other comments that the build is shit, and the brand already has a poor reputation. But if you're going to criticize a brand, make sure it's for something the brand actually did. GN calls it a scam and points out all the errors with the specs, but never explicitly states they bought it from a RESELLER. So shit on ibuypower for the useless build, but also shit on the reseller for the false and inconsistent information on the page and the pricing for what you get. If GN actually went a little further and actually talked about the scammy crap the RESELLER pulled, then it would be a good cautionary tale to read everything on the page, and if things are inconsistent, buy somewhere else. If you want a specific brand through Amazon, make sure you get it through their official store.

[@Kroeckinator]

I bought an iBUYPOWER PC when I was first getting into the PC gaming scene, I spent way too much money but it seemed like a good deal at the time. Come to find out a few months later that the CPU they included in my PC was basically incredibly outdated and was bottlenecking the shit out of my GPU.

[@bigwitt187]

With their pre-built there's a risk of getting ripped off. My last was custom, I got the components I was supposed to, but the build quality was abysmal. I'll spare you the details, but the PSU wasn't even connected. Never again.

[@JohnnyGault]

This gpu was adopted by Satan himself and then returned for fear of it's performance

[@thejjgang6338]

I daily drive that gpu and get fine performance from it

[@gmdking]

@@thejjgang6338 😳

[@clarencewilliams6137]

Love the Peaky Blinders reference

[@thejjgang6338]

@@gmdking im not lying bro

[@thejjgang6338]

@@gmdking its fine for what i do

[@richardsinclair7661]

For some reason, the sound the tempered glass kept making as it came unstuck made me lose my shit. This series is gold.

[@DavidLee-cr4xv]

gonna play that sound on repeat to help me sleep

[@MinosML]

I absolutely lost it when they kept repeating that clip throughout the video LMAO

[@ericwood3709]

I wonder just what this thing would compare to in terms of graphics performance. A 2009 Mac Mini, perhaps? I suspect that a Raspberrry Pi 4 would actually outperform this. If you happen to read this, I hope you will consider a followup video making absurd comparisons such as these. Maybe you could put Vista or even XP on it to test it with software more appropriate for that GPU!

[@Pl4sm4Ro4ch]

i was wondering myself if the original xbox would outperform this thing. Some actually were able to install windows on original xbox to play pc games.

[@PinkSkinSisko]

Well my Raspberry Pis that are the 4b+ can run 4k @ 60fps, so I'd say it would outperform this card. It's the CPU that will fall short though. Actually the IHS is cool enough to touch with your finger and dissipate the heat off of it

[@dillon1012]

Rpi4 is similar speed

[@LithicKing]

Despite it's poor component, It's much more powerful then then a 2009 mac. Also, this is past the days of vista/xp. Think windows 7/8.

[@ericwood3709]

@@LithicKing Benchmarks would settle the matter.

[@crimsonscriticalcorner9048]

My nan bought a "gaming pc" from Amazon ages ago and it never ran properly, no matter what I did it was green, games ran at 10fps no matter the settings, I know a decent chunk about PC's now so I decided to fix it up, the drivers weren't installed correctly so the system though there wasn't a GPU turns out it was a gtx 1050ti with 8 gigs ram, she paid £200 for it

[@andrealves2630]

Gtx 1050Ti has 4gb

[@crimsonscriticalcorner9048]

@@andrealves2630 yeah, it had 8 gigs RAM

[@pricklycatsss]

I was about to buy my first gaming PC for Amazon but I ended up switching to Newegg lol I'm so glad

[@pricklycatsss]

@@crimsonscriticalcorner9048 8??? 😭😭😭

[@crimsonscriticalcorner9048]

@@pricklycatsss yeah I got speccy up last night

[@N1lav]

For the same amount i got 3600, 16gigs of 3200 CL 16 ram, a B450 Tomahawk, Samsung 980 1TB SSD,Inno3d 1660 Super, Corsair 550W PSU and an Antec GX202. technically it was 56000INR ~ 730 US $. Granted it took me two months to get every part from separate vendors.Dang PC market be evil now.

[@mrducky179]

those wouldve been my pc specs if it wasnt for the shortage

[@dillongracia884]

I have a question. Why do you buy a samsung 980 meanwhile b450 doesn't support pcie gen 4 nvme? You could save money by buying a 960 or other gen 3 ssd

[@ssj2richard]

@@dillongracia884 You're talking about a 980 PRO a 980 is Gen 3

[@dillongracia884]

@@ssj2richard sorry. i thought that the 980 still use gen 4

[@GENKI_INU]

These reviews are great. They do more damage to their sales (and future sales) than they've profited from doing this.

[@BassFishingAddictions]

I built my first pc around a year ago and a second one just recently. Videos like these were the exact reason why I decided to not go prebuilt. Put a little time into learning and you won't have to rely on a company to make your computer or geeksquad to fix it. Was a totally unexpected hobby I never thought I would be a part of.

[@armyofninjas9055]

Yeah sort of ended up there myself about 15 years ago (not intending to).

[@tbthunderer]

I bought an HP TG series pre-built for 600 at the beginning of this year, it was the only way I could really get into PC gaming because I couldn't afford to buy all the components plus a GPU. It was perfectly serviceable as I used it, and when I wanted to do a custom build I just pulled the parts I could and wanted to reuse from it and put it in the new build. For me, that PC was my door to a computer hobby, as I've wanted to get into it for awhile, but the cost was very prohibitive with the other things that I personally have going on in my life. For some people, those prebuilts open the door to that hobby.

[@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude]

To be fair in the real world u gotta be rich or have 3 jobs to have the over head mo ey to expeiment and attempt to get lucky and out together a bootable system first try

[@Rubysh88]

To be fair, a lot of people who buy prebuilts these days know how to build a PC, it just happens to be one of the few ways to get a GPU, but of course, they won't fall for these scams

[@XZ-III]

@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude not really true

[@Apok_Alyptik]

Back when the 1080 line first came out I got a pre-built off iBUYPOWER, I went ahead and threw in the extra money for their "professional wiring" all the cables were run through the side wall where the MB is mounted causing you to have to lay the PC on it's side and having to lay down on the case to slide the cover on because all the cables would bulge out the case cover

[@speedevil22]

I had one of these GT 730s in its GT 440 form back in 2012. I built a HTPC in an ARK enclosure using an i3-530. I found an EVGA single slot GT 440 with 1GB of "GDDR3". It was better than the laptop graphics of the time, but only barely. The GPU would consistently reach 100 C and the heatsink on the GPU which was the most anemic looking fan and fin assembly ever, was labeled GT 430. EVGA couldnt even be bothered to spray paint a different SKU on it. So thanks Gamers Nexus. Thanks for bringing up a GPU card that I've long forgotten, and for good reason. It wasnt even good for display out :]

[@flyingbassett4332]

I love the reviews and breakdowns of crappy prebuilts. It makes it much easier for us neophytes to avoid marketing hype when we build our own. I know that I know almost nothing, but I do like to avoid obvious junk.

[@junko4166]

I wish we had channels like yours in my country. All of the big channels here are tied to at least one of the big stores, so criticism is non existent. Also, they are straight up bribed by Nvidia and Intel. To the point where comparisons between Intel's disastrous 11th and Zen 3 were non-existent for weeks, and all we got were fluff pieces low-key telling people to buy that disaster. Sorry for the wall but I hate them. I hate them so much that I hope in their everyday lives their socks stay wet.

[@junko4166]

ALSO, when a smaller channel found exposed a local manufacturer for straight up selling fake GPUs, everyone else remained silent as they were sued into silence.

[@junko4166]

@@aoi3150 Yes baby, give me some of that internet chlamydia.

[@Lucasbpc]

I knew you were Brazilian too before reading through the whole comment...

[@junko4166]

@@Lucasbpc Complicado mano kkkk

[@Redslayer86]

If you consider that a wall, walls must be tiny in your country

[@SGTBizarro]

The random recurring *pop* from the side panel adhesive... at first made me chuckle and eventually made me laugh out loud by 18:23

[@MosquitoMade]

The "pre-installed AMD Graphics drivers with no AMD Graphics card in it" almost makes me wonder if it's the Amazon 3rd Party seller buying systems and swapping GPUs out (may also explain lack of packing foam too?)

[@depth386]

An intriguing thought you have here. Definitely warrants investigation

[@hondax707]

You can search the element mini. Microsoft has it listed with the 730, 8gb ram at 2666mhz and the 250gb ssd. So it's not the 3rd parties doing it

[@Kepe]

Check GN's pinned comment at the top. ibuypower confirmed this thing was built by them, not a 3rd party.

[@depth386]

@@Kepe yeah but they could still possibly build a pc then have it altered by a 3rd party. I mean it’s just so hard to believe they would do this. A 950 or 1030 sure but this is just.. baffling. Any intel iGPU or Ryzen anything with a G like 2200G is better

[@crazyman854]

This is interesting and my thought as well. I bought an ibuypower back in 2017 which has done me very well over the past 4+ years with a 8th generation i7 and gtx 1060 3gb and is still going strong. Mine did have packing foam and doesn't look near as trash on the inside as this. My storage specs were accurate too. Granted I definitely did not buy from Amazon, but this looks off to me compared to my experience so far. This screams resale to me. Especially since the price point is only 600-700 dollars. Anyone expecting to get even a decent gaming pc for this price is begging for scam. That said it does raise some eyebrows and I will need to look a little harder for my next pc. Is there any other pc builder companies that ppl recommend looking into?

[@clem-1917]

"Neo represents from virtual to reality." that's a matrix reference 😂

[@temporaltomato3021]

Written by an AI or something, my god

[@kaiseralbrecht6099]

@@felaayuniayunia7273 you need help

[@Yggdrasill8]

You're right! 🤣

[@mohrasher]

It's so easy to make a decent pc. How do these companies mess up so much?

[@alcatrazmyc6311]

That's the thing, they're not messing up. It's completely intentional.

[@FeintMotion]

Hustles aren't accidents

[@marmite2956]

They don't care what actual performance it has except what parts are in it. Ruining it by 1 stick of ram and overheating parts

[@mikinyaa]

Partially due to parts shortage but they still need to pump out items to sell to feed their operations

[@PabzRoz]

This isn't messing up. They're taking advantage of the pandemic and the demand. They're literally taking advantage of gamers who don't know any better. This is disgusting.

[@timhartherz5652]

Should have called it the "Ibuypower STL" - Straight To Landfill.

[@Klovaneer]

don't forget to rescue the CPU!

[@profosist]

Another key thing about that "brand new system" is that AMAZING GPU is that is no longer supported and doesn't get software updates.

[@DeagleGamesTV]

Yeah he said that in the video.

[@thedisappointedgamer4239]

Man my favorite content you make is the prebuilt buys and reviews

[@TheNiteNinja19]

When they mentioned one gigabit hard drive, I was actually kind of expecting them to shove in a five and a quarter inch Quantum Bigfoot 1GB drive in there.

[@DeagleGamesTV]

Gigabyte, bot gigabit.

[@jamesyoung151]

I remember the first 1GB drive that I bought (I no longer have it). It cost me $450 at the time.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

If it's 1 Gigabit, that's only 128 MB (1024 / 8).

[@JohnDoe-cq9no]

Purchased a $2,300 prebuilt from iBuyProblems that was put together wrong and doesn't work. I don't even know how it could have passed the "inspection".

[@sandorbence2067]

Wow, this card is even weaker that my fake 1060 (turned out to be a 550/550 ti) that I got from Wish 3 years ago. And that card was so bad that I even got a refund without sending it back.

[@station240]

When Wish is less of a scam than a supposed professional PC builder, you know something is very wrong.

[@mycelia_ow]

Free GTX 550Ti? That's not a bad deal if you're ok waiting 6 weeks for shipping.

[@sandorbence2067]

@@mycelia_ow It was a bit over two months. And I had to convince the support though a quick search on the GPU die helped. It is also the loudest card I ever had. But it still works in my parents PC and as long as you don't try to install 1060 drivers as it suggests you will be fine.

[@TheRealDan0il]

Imagine buying this over a current gen console and thinking, "I'm big brain. I'm PC master race now."

[@adriannn3720]

Nobody would think that.

[@eddiejaimess]

@@adriannn3720 you’d be surprised

[@KobeKeats]

@@adriannn3720 People definitely would, you underestimate the stupidity of some.

[@dennisfoster6261]

@@adriannn3720 Well the reality surpasses the lack of your imagination ;)

[@Prod._By_Kyoto_Beatz]

@\f_a/ Bruh how tf would that be sad?

[@tucci06]

Imagine their confusion when Windows tells them their "new" PC isn't ready for Windows 11.

[@swinnburn]

Microsoft would give you some suggestions for upgrades,with those green and red ticks. All would be red!😒

[@andersjjensen]

@@swinnburn Nope. The CPU is Windows 11 capable, and so is the chipset. But the GPU does not have a WDDM 5.1 compliant driver...

[@SparrowwithaMachinegun]

Somewhere out there, someone bought this. And I'm convinced you could sell an empty black box if you cover it in RGB lighting.