Games that Need Sequels - Game Sack

[@baardbi]

It's awesome to see this old episode now, knowing that Streets of Rage actually got a sequel.

[@stickyman05]

Don't forget about all of the LocoRoco sequels!

[@GameSack]

TO EVERYONE: If you watch the episode, we mention that many of the games we mention have had sequels in the past. There is no need to let us know that such-and-such had a sequel, as if to invalidate it's inclusion in the episode. We know. We want better and proper sequels. Thanks for understanding.

[@Christian-rn1ur]

Game Sack It was definitely Andy that typed this out. Seems like an Andy thing to do

[@kuruptein]

I love Joe's attitude lol.. just like yo listen ass I already said that stop being stupid. Asshole just like me

[@andrewbutler9533]

Hello from the future! Streets of Rage 4 is here and its AWESOME!!!

[@fungiside]

This is literally the only youtube channel that makes me excited when I see a new video pop up. Please never stop guys!

[@BrothaKyo]

Who else is here in 2018, happy that Streets of Rage is finally getting a fourth game?

[@MiguelPaulettePerez-bj8ml]

I'm in here 2020 and I'm happy that I own Streets of Rage 4, it must have been Joe who set the wheels in motion

[@jamesdinser4411]

What system is it on?

[@BrothaKyo]

James Dinser Basicaly any of the modern consoles and PC

[@ribletbasket286]

@@jamesdinser4411 it's on Xbox Game Pass right now for download.

[@ribletbasket286]

@@MiguelPaulettePerez-bj8ml how does it measure up to the originals?

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Working Designs didn't make games btw, they just translated them. At the time, they provided a decent English translation (albeit with flaws) with correct grammar and spelling in the days of conglaturation and all your base are belong to us (although I will say most of the voice actors they used were excellent). So that's why they seemed amazing at the time. By today's standards their translations are below average.

[@richardbyatt4018]

I'd love to see the people who made the new Streets of Rage 4 to make a new Golden Axe game in the same style.

[@NemXX2]

I am thinking they will. They seem to be big fans of the genre and they are making a new TMNT 2D beat'em up as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to make a new Golden Axe too and i don't see a reason for SEGA to say no after SoR4.

[@richardbyatt4018]

@@NemXX2 that would be truly awesome, watch this space I guess.

[@moviemetalhead]

Golden Axe, Waverace, Final Fight, Eternal Darkness, Skies of Arcadia and Altered Beast all need a proper sequel. Nice choices, as well, Joe and Dave. \,,/

[@longp94]

I really wish you'd put the list of games in your episodes in the description of the video. Anyways, what games really need sequels are the Mystical Ninja/Goemon series (although there seem to have been a few more recent sequels, I haven't seen any in America), Snow Board Kids (from N64. I know they had 1 sequel on the DS, but I'd hardly call that a sequel because it was a piece of shit), and Bomberman 64/Bomberman the second attack (I know they have bomberman sequels that play more like the traditional bomberman games, but the style in Bomberman 64 and Bomberman the Second Attack was just so fun).

[@GameSack]

We do list all of the games in each episode over at www.gamesack.net so if there's ever a game you're wondering if we covered, you can search there.

[@takki3942]

The bomberman series is done for thanks to trying to make it fit in with the new gen games. It also is on the Original XBox or a XBox 360 but that version sucked

[@paulcool4384]

True, but why not also put it in the desription ?

[@GameSack]

Paul Cool Why do you need it in the description so badly?

[@phelpsboltusa87]

Game Sack Because it would be more convenient. Btw love your content

[@pescalante2]

Okami is a beautiful game, its biggest flaw is that you feel like you’re reading more than you’re playing the game, every time Issun or anyone else talks to you it feels like it’s never going to end

[@jamesmaxwell4447]

Skies of Arcadia. Period.

[@jadosa29]

5 years later and still true. I’d even take an hd remaster at this point

[@lutfimakarim8258]

10 years later and unfortunately still true.

[@AlanLister]

FYI- You actually do NOT need the save game backup cart in order to play Shining Force CD Books 3&4. If you look in your save data in the system menu, you'll see two files, one that's 99 blocks, and one that's just 1 block. You need to delete the 99 block file, as that's your actual save file. The 1 block file keeps track of what you have completed. Also, if you just delete your game from within the game itself, it will make sure the right file is deleted. I have played all 4 books without having the save cart.

[@TheDistorted]

We need a Phantasy Star V !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bartsimpson83]

I'd love to see a new Goonies game. Goonies 2 was one of my favorites on the NES and with all the hidden stuff and figuring out the different pathways and how all the doors connected, it took me weeks to finish on my first playthrough. I think a new game on the Virtual Console or Xbox Live Arcade would be amazing in the right hands.

[@michaeluy114]

revenge of death adder port would be the best

[@starblazer311]

YESSS!! There NEEDS to be a LocoRoco Sequel!! I loved that game! Such an oddball title outside of japan but awesome gameplay mechanics!

[@tommytwotacos3503]

Anytime I've seen or conducted testing on the strength of other people's balls, or found myself in a situation where someone was testing the toughness of my "balls" as, it became readily apparent to me and the other researches that none of balls tested were very tough at all. However, I frequently hear Joe Redifer referring to games as being "tough as balls" and I wonder if it's possible his balls are abnormally tough like made of stone and he doesn't realize that it's a bad frame of reference to use in a conversation since his ball toughness is wildly disproportionate to that of the great pubic public at large.

[@abbeymcneill2720]

This comment is my life. Thank you tommy.

[@GameSack]

The boss is multi-jointed yes, but the rotating part is mode 7. The joints were all animated sprites. Mode 7 isn't a chip. And like I demonstrated the backgrounds are really a simple task that can be performed on any system of the time. They only expand in the vertical dimension. Super easy to do. Look at the Sonic example I showed.

[@opiumized]

Jumping Flash would be fantastic updated to VR

[@inendlesspain4724]

A Jumping Flash game in... freaking VR??!!! *insta-boner*

[@McCoy-00]

That would be cool, you would have people jumping at walls or something. That would be really funny

[@danyboychicken]

Gamesack has become by far my favourite youtube video game show. You guys deserve a TV show.

[@sammylane21]

When the song Flight Of The Furies was heard,I just started chanting "Yes!Yes!Yes!Yes!"

[@MyPhobo]

Did you mean Flight of the Valkyries?

[@strider6425]

Holy crap! You guys mentioned JJ & Jeff. I was the only kid ive ever known to this day to have played this game. One of my favorite games as a kid. Just amazing. Thanks for bringing this one to light

[@GameSack]

It's funny that you mention that. No clue when a 3rd RPG episode might be, but I started playing Suikoden on the PS last night. I hadn't played it since I rented it for one night when it was brand new. I remembered a lot! There was that really nice guitar tune as we were all eating dinner near the beginning. I then remembered that there should be strings backing this guitar tune and that it wasn't on the OST release at all. Yup, the strings then came on!

[@GameSack]

Who said the level 2 boss head was sprites? I certainly did not. It does not need to have black behind it. Instead it has a solid greenish brown. The "detail" you see in the background are all sprites. You can tell because when you fire your missiles, the detail flickers away occasionally. The overhead levels are simply scanline v-scroll adjustments (or raster-based stretching). It's the same exact effect shown on Sonic. I get my information from actual programmers, not old EGM mags.

[@MrSerpico145]

Skies of Arcadia needs a sequel.

[@emmettturner9452]

Axelay’s “vertical” stages aren’t actually moving you to the center of the screen. You are always moving up but they actually scroll left and right too. That’s the horizontal scroll catching up. Because it’s scrolling the other things too, it doesn’t actually affect your precision. What does affect your precision is the rolling 3D effect where you may think you were in the right position to avoid something or thread the needle until you get closer, the object grows, and you realize that your position was not correct.

[@NuclearCherries]

F-Zero springs to mind, but the main contender is Mega Man Legends 3.

[@tbader20]

I really really want another 16-bit F-Zero.

[@GameSack]

Actually they had 8, 9 if you count the one in the Genesis. 11 if you count the redbook tracks. That was a developer choice, probably so the drums wouldn't interfere with whatever is being said aloud. Too many games don't have proper sound mixing, even these days.

[@MordecaiWalfish]

Ugh.. they're actually making a Streets of Rage 4 now, and it looks like a f'ing flash game. Be careful what you wish for.. as they say.

[@johnalbertson79]

It looks gay and forgettable. A generic game wearing the SOF badge.

[@derektorres9275]

Wrong you are. The game is awesome and fun

[@DurableName]

Why did/do so many people think that Streets of Rage 4 looks like a flash game when it's CLEARLY hand-animated?

[@thetruth3346]

First game requested Streets of Rage 4. Wish granted

[@YoshiArmy]

Greendog needs a second game.

[@Dumbledork_Prime]

I'm very happy you mentioned Golden Axe. My number 1 game that needs a sequel. Here are some more: Knightmare (MSX) Caveman Ninja Pop 'n' Twinbee Wonder Boy in Monsterland Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara Rastan Midnight Resistance Bubble Bobble Rainbow Islands Rolling Thunder Blue's Journey

[@todesziege]

Knightmare got a couple of sequels in Japan, though they weren't that similar in gameplay. Caveman Ninja got like three sequels also.

[@tommytwotacos3503]

So, about that waiting for Konami to make a sequel to Axelay someday...

[@GameSack]

Yes I know all that. The main segment (the head) of the level 2 boss is mode 7. The backgrounds in the overhead levels are absolutely not.

[@ZambatoMaster2o]

actually platinum games is clover studios

[@eins2001]

Wait, really? O_O

[@channelsurfing]

Klonoa. We need another main Klonoa game for a current platform.

[@IdealIdeas100]

Still dying for Conkers Bad Fur Day 2. But microsoft hates Rare, so it will never happen :( Then there is always Psychonauts 2.

[@PauloCastor]

i bet that m$ will make some new conker or banjo game soon.

[@justin188541]

SSX3, Timesplitters, Road Rash, Eternal Darkness and Jet Grind Radio.

[@brunorlferreira]

What about Phantasy Star?

[@64-Bit-Gamer]

The single player AI on Return Fire was broken, with unplayable maps. And every two player game ends in a draw if the losing person destroys the bridges. I agree that it has the basis of a good game, but would need a lot of work for a sequel.

[@Diablokiller999]

Surely Decap Attack needs a sequel :)

[@Stinger2578]

Black Tiger, the Capcom arcade game that had some similarity to Ghosts and Goblins but was more 'medieval' and had the element where you collected currency to buy better armor, keys, potions and better weapons.

[@Diobolical25]

I want a third gunstar heroes.

[@Narhijan]

Nice vid, but about Shining Force, i think the second is absolutely the best, and I'd love to see another game with just the same gameplay.

[@MoriyaMug]

The Last Blade... in Guilty Gear Xrd's engine. Yes, please.

[@wetvein4908]

Along with Road Rash.. Return Fire was my favourite 3DO game. I even bought the "Maps O Death" expansion thing... what an awesome game. I'm also a big fan of Locoroco. I still play them once in a while on my Vita. (i can't remember if bought them twice.. of if Sony was cool and just made them transferable from my PSP to Vita) Great video.

[@georghagglund9338]

I would love to see the Mega Man X series back on track. Just like they did 9 and 10 for the original seeries. I think the first Mega Man X game is perhaps the best Mega Man game ever done. X2 and X3 are also quite good but not as perfect. The music is mostly horrible in X3 for example. So a continue to X3 could be great!

[@Kefka44]

points to X4-X8

[@eksyte]

Check out Mighty No. 9.

[@NarcoticDimension]

im VERY surprised shenmue isn't here.

[@GoIdenbaum]

Chrono Cross is a great game. But it's not great enough to be a sequel to Chrono Trigger, and that's why we need a REAL sequel, disregarding everything about Cross as noncanon.

[@richardslotboom9250]

The musin in Streets of Rage 3 is just really good! I like industrial/techno sounds or just harder music styles in general

[@twqc42]

The legend of Dragoon needs a sequel or a prequel

[@angryw4nderer]

I think I could die happy if Legend of the Dragoon 2 were made

[@TheRetroidShow]

Finally ! Someone agrees that Shining Force deserves a sequel! Ever since I discovered that game I've wanted a Shining Force 4 , but nobody even knew what Shining Force was!

[@DominikSobolewski]

Conker's Bad Fur Day needs a sequel.

[@balazsnagy5781]

This.

[@mikediloreto5965]

Need? More like deserve.

[@Stephan5916]

***** Agreed.

[@sonicdoesfrontflips]

+The Spit Dragon (Bontron) Write a letter to Gory Detail. They're like the Playtonic Games of Conker.

[@Edward-bm7vw]

10:48 I think I can almost hear Gustav Holst's Symphony of the Planets. Quite appropriate because it's the 'Mars, bringer of War' part.

[@Armbreakfire]

What was that dreamcast game that left us all on a cliffhanger? I think it was a Yu Suzuki game or whatever...

[@garybrownlow6359]

Yeah, Virtua Cop 3!!

[@ssjkev16]

loved the show guys, you guys seriously make some top quality material on youtube, its unfortunate that you don't get any many views as you guys deserve.

[@brickboi7309]

earthbound, ristar, rocket knight, gex, shenmue, f zero, banjo and kazooey, shadowman, zombies ate my nieghbors, haunting starring poulterguy, and paperboy...............................................

[@GiordanDiodato]

Earthbound has a sequel (kinda...) and the create doesn't want to make another Mother game.

[@uselessDM]

I have the eerie vision of Paperboy being turned into an FPS.

[@sagatvegagouki]

Zombies ate my neighbors does have a sequel its called ghoul patrol its kinda rare but awesome Shenmue as well

[@sagatvegagouki]

I do believe it was a japan only release

[@georgemorley1029]

F Zero has a heap of sequels.

[@SoapTF2]

I'm glad you guys mentioned Shining Force! You've got no idea how many of the hours I should've been doing homework went into playing the first two games in that series. They really give you a sense of strategy and war better than other games like King's Bounty and Civilization could do at the time. Great inclusion and great video as always!

[@zawette]

jazz jackrabbit is the game that really needs a sequel

[@TheRetroidShow]

It does have a sequel. Jazz Jackrabbit 2 :P

[@zawette]

i am talking about a 3rd installement

[@TheHabitman]

No. That Sonic hack needs to stay in the past, along with Sonic.

[@emscape2]

the old beta for jjr3 leaked recently ;)

[@zawette]

emscape2 u mean the 3d one ? it was leaked years ago

[@UndertakerU2ber]

Games that need sequels: 1. Call of Duty 2. Assassin's Creed 3. Battlefield 4. Mario Party 5. Final Fantasy :P

[@purepower7778]

You missed a game. Madden.

[@UndertakerU2ber]

purepower777 Ah, that's a good one I missed! XD

[@Breakbeats92.5]

A true sequel to Dino Crisis 2 would rule. And no, that truck load of horse manure released on the original X Box does not count.

[@MrLBSilveira]

Corey Cavalier Similar to what happened with Parasite Eve, which also deserves a true sequel.

[@LiquidDIO]

+Corey Cavalier Yeah, I would love a proper sequel to Dino Crisis. What they did with 3 was one of the single most disappointing moments I think I've ever had with a game. As for Parasite Eve, despite being a sort of prototype for the ATS battle system, the first is still the best, in my opinion. What they did with 2 was just NOT good, and I refuse to talk about the 3rd game that wasn't a sequel but was a sequel but wasn't. Maybe some indie group will give us spiritual successors one day, but I don't think Capcom or Square has their shit together enough to honestly give us what we want anymore, especially Square.

[@nohomers100]

Dino crisis 2 is severely underrated. It's probably the most fun game ever made. The guns the action the ridiculous plot. The game was great!

[@krikit]

Game sack videos are on my insta-liked list. I can't get over the clarity in your video!

[@telekineticbees]

WE NEED MORE SEQUELS TO CALL OF DUTY

[@brianmcdonald7017]

No

[@telekineticbees]

@@brianmcdonald7017 Damn I haven't thought about this channel in two years, thank you for reminding me. Not even being sarcastic

[@nickwest932]

Crystalis, Faxanadu, KotOR, Xenosaga, Star Tropics, and I could go for days. Too many from Sega, they are afraid of failing with their iconic IPs.

[@joeyjojoshabadoo2508]

Nick West Xenosaga has Xenoblade

[@nickwest932]

Chief Broom That doesn't count in my book as it is a "spiritual" successor. That, and there was too much story and not enough game to it. While XenoSaga is not bad, Xenogears was better in my opinion, and deserving of a true sequel. Funny thing is that out of all the aforementioned games, this is the last on my want list. All the others would put me on Cloud 9.

[@ThePogoBro]

EVERY FREAKIN VALVE GAME

[@MrBukkakebandit]

we don't need tf3

[@ThePogoBro]

MrBukkakebandit not that

[@arieswar7140]

ThePogoBro I need TF3....and half life 3...and day of defeat 2 as bonus for waiting lol. Left for dead 3 most important :P.

[@Arancil]

Ricochet 2!

[@MrBukkakebandit]

Bring on L4D3

[@Tolman18]

Great episode guys. There are many old retro games that I'm playing now that I have totally missed out on as a kid. I guess being 31 has its advantages now that I can by my own games and not have to wait for my next birthday! Lol. Keep the episodes coming Joe and Dave!

[@Crlarl]

Shenmue and StarFox.

[@EliteKhajiit]

What I want to know is when the hell will we get a new Mario game?! It's been over a month!

[@cambrodia3189]

Half-Life 2 reaaaalllly needs a sequel. But it will never happen :(

[@jimtaylor201]

"Streets of Rage" did get a sequel (sort of) in the form of "Fighting Force" on the PSone which was originally conceptualized as a 3d streets of rage.

[@EXBeatDP]

Gee, Shining Force's gameplay looks awfully familiar…

[@bad1082]

+Retro Traveler Golden sun, made by the same people

[@EXBeatDP]

***** Actually, I thought it looked a lot more like Fire Emblem.

[@SoulSecureOfficial]

+Retro Traveler I have Shining Force, it's a great game.

[@ptcrusa]

The difference is Sega actually localized these games in the 90s, and we didn't get any Fire Emblem games until much later

[@DanielRiossuper1rios]

love your videos guys. takes me back to some good days of forgotten gems. keep it up :)

[@pal-of-pals]

Shining Force III needs to be re-released so freaking badly imo.

[@leecroft2755]

A few that spring to mind are Kid Chameleon, Body Harvest, Sunset Riders and Dynamite Headdy. Sequels or HD remakes would be great.

[@O_Draws]

At 15:10, that's the Chicken Stinger/Chicken Leg, which also appears in Altered Beast as an enemy. The games were both made by Matoko Uchida and he just reused and recolored the sprite. Oddly, Super Castelvania IV has an enemy on the final stage called the Headless Hunter, which is just the Headless Horror/Bone Head from Altered Beast with a sabre -- purple tunic and all. Also, in one of your earlier videos featuring footage from the Japanese release of Super Castlevania IV, the human form of Neff/Majin from Altered Beast can be seen hanging out below the light-up hallway leading to Dracula's room. Are the Castlevania cameos just fun tributes, or are the creators of these games attempting to link all three series to a single universe?

[@lazerwolfdiecast]

the first two Shining Force games are nothing short of masterpieces. i would pay good money for a proper sequel. awesome video guys

[@KnowYourVideoGames]

In regard to your comment about mode 7 for the stages and the boss. First off, the boss isn't using mode 7. It's a multi-jointed sprite using software rotation. The mode 7 chip was used for manipulating the backgrounds in Axelay.

[@tazgamerplays]

Axelay 2 pachinko machine. We hear our fans and give them what they want.

[@timcrouch2415]

You guys need to do another one of these! And yes, I am aware of the fact that I am asking for a sequel to this episode, but I am serious :P

[@l0stndamned]

Awesome to see Golden Axe and Shining Force on the list. Eternal Champions and Alisia Dragoon would also be in my list.

[@GameSack]

Why do you have a check mark by your name and how did you get that?

[@mrsolecrab]

Man you guys are one of the reasons I bought a super nintendo and plan on getting a genesis . Just looking at the games make me want to have every video game in the world. You guys have greatly influenced me and what I play

[@waffleson45]

Did you ever get a Genesis?

[@mrsolecrab]

@@waffleson45 woah, this comment took me back. I never did get around to buying a Genesis, but I still think about it! I still have the Super Nintendo though, 9 years later lol

[@waffleson45]

@@mrsolecrab that's awesome you still have the SNES! I recently got into game sack and got a model 1&2 Genesis and a SNES these days along with classic game collecting, was always my dream to have older consoles :)

[@GameSack]

Yeah I remember playing it on the DC. Now to go find out what the Atari Falcon is.

[@lawrenceb4954]

It's funny, out of all the weekend rentals I had as a kid (countless?), Shinning force is one of the few that sticks out. I remember being really bummed that my saves were going to be replaced by someone else. I also remember renting splatter house 3, mainly because my younger brother was caught trying to steal trading cards that night. =D

[@bradgarrett5786]

This was a great video!!! Shining Force was the first RPG I ever played and I have fond memories of it, and I owned Streets of Rage II, which still is the best beat em up game I've ever played.

[@GameSack]

Very much agree (but didn't want to talk about Phantasy Star again so soon).

[@caligoclarus]

Joe, you may never get that sequel to Popful Mail, but the release on Turbo Gfx CD is a different version. Oh, and there won't be another Kato and Ken game ever, since the show hasn't even been on since 1992.

[@videostash413]

thank god they took out that freak in the US version!

[@KnowYourVideoGames]

Mode 7 is a hardware feature on the chip allowing the SNES to scale and rotate a single background, not sprites. The Sega CD has the ability to rotate 2 independent backgrounds in addition to sprites. Sprite scaling and rotation on the SNES or Genesis is done through software coding and not hardware.

[@mrdante361]

Dragon crown is kinda like golden axe. Fantasy beat'em up.

[@mr.mellow4093]

I would love too see another golden sun game.

[@mjy]

I'm still waiting for a sequel to the Lunar series (Lunar: The Silver Star and Lunar: Eternal Blue), which are easily some of my favorite RPGs ever. I was a huge fan of the Sega CD releases, and Working Designs did an excellent job on the PlayStation remakes. The PSP release (Lunar: Silver Star Harmony) was really fun as well.

[@GameSack]

Agreed. Sonic Generations seemed pretty choppy when things started getting fast. And the low framerate only added to the lag.

[@theflyingninja1]

Man, I always love it when a new episode of Game Sack comes around!

[@lifespanofafry1534]

Are you still alive?

[@M3rtyville]

I think Panzer Dragoon should get a sequel on a modern gen system...hopefully not on the Xbone because that console has barely any relevant exclusives and it would be a waste of money. Sadly that will never happen :(

[@GameSack]

Yeah I hope they have a demo for it soon.

[@dustint3833]

I love music in games and think it can really set the mood. BUT these guys have the biggest hard on for it.

[@JaggedDagger]

A little late to the party but a new Shining Force would be fantastic. I could totally see one done to the similar style of Divinity Original Sin 2

[@pingusupremacy6006]

this video need a sequel

[@FlamerXMagofire01]

So: Earthbound/Mother, Ristar, Banjo-Kazooie, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Dynamite Heady, Earthworm Jim, Ghost Trick (even though it might end up suffering of sequelitis...), The World Ends With You (though that one _might_ have a sequel later, who knows), Pulseman, Rock & Roll Racing... Those are the ones I can think of right now...