Games Workshop Does it Right? | 40K 10th Edition Cinematic Reaction

[@literalsarcasm1830]

The level of utter disgust in the delivery of that last "victory" was perfection.

[@joshtompkins1538]

4:19 That is something known as a Screamer Killer. They used to have a model way back in the day. And by back in the day I mean that the model has a square base. So the fact that it is appearing here means that we are getting a new Screamer Killer model. You can tell that it is a screamer killer because it has the Screamer Killer's two defining features: four arms that end in massive scythe-like blades and a bioplasma scream.

[@Airier]

... so wait, are they possibly bringing back an incredibly old model to refresh the range? That's actually kind of cool. 😯

[@joshtompkins1538]

@@Airier more than that. A lot of new models were teased in the trailer. The phobos Lieutenant was using a combi-bolter, they can't take those now. You already noticed the primaris flamer units but did you notice that the squad sergeant had a combi-melta? The missile launching dreadnaught is also new. The apothecary was wearing gravis armor which they can't do now. And the last thing I could pick out is that the things that you kept calling Zoanthropes aren't actually Zoanthropes, they seem to be a new model entirely. other than that you already saw the new terminator sculpts but the Termigaunts and probably the Hormagaunts also got new sculpts.

[@andreasbuehler1821]

They didn't entirely vanish. For several editions, they were just a carnifex variant you could theoretically build by giving them the right head and weapons from the model kit. Cool that they are really back now, though.

[@oldeskul]

@@joshtompkins1538 I think those were either neurothropes or venothropes. It's hard to tell from the video.

[@joshtompkins1538]

@@oldeskul no they weren’t. The tentacles were too thick they don’t just hang down like that.

[@antonymash9586]

Of course his face is like Dorns. They are supposed to be brothers arent they?

[@nullakjg767]

The seed is strong.

[@DaddyVeo1911]

Remember vulkan? And as much as I'd love for it to be true, TTS isn't canon to the mainline 40k lore.

[@antonymash9586]

@@DaddyVeo1911 Does his face look like his brothers though?

[@theanathema3062]

It is such a good time to be a 40k fan. First guilliman comes back, now the lion and a brand new 10th animation coming out

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

Its good that the Lion is back. Guilliman has his hands fully having to balance between leading humanity out of extinction and having to put up with the ministorum. The imperium needs an additional primarch who can lead from the front on the battlefield. Cadia would not have fallen if the Lion was on the planet.

[@gathawn193]

Don’t forget that we got Horus and his Emperor Hating ass in crisp animation

[@TheMightyCrucibleKnight184]

Victory, victory, victory as it should be.

[@theanathema3062]

@@TheMightyCrucibleKnight184 why hello Malal, it appears you have heard my son’s annual “I hate everything” speach. It’s become a real fun pass time of his. Say, how do you feel about vashtor and be’lakor trying to take your spot as the fifth chaos god

[@TheMightyCrucibleKnight184]

@@theanathema3062 try me, and they will know truth about who I am.

[@ShinigamiSamaH]

Guiliman have spoke before, multiple times, actually. For example, the trailer where the Primaris are introduced and the Indomitus Crusade declared is narrated by big G.

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

The Tyranid with the big claws that is killed by the Dreadnought is a modern version of a very early form of the Carnifex known as a Screamer Killer. It was the very first Carnifex model from back in the 1990s. It had the four very large claws and the distended maw that have become iconic signifies of the genus in the later codex books. Its rules included the first references (with regard to the Tyranids) to a bioplasma attack, and it was considered one of the classic early Tyranid miniatures even though its proportions were a bit odd even for the time. Older Tyranid players like yours truly can't help but have a soft spot for the good old Screamer Killer, so it is great to see it make a return in a newer incarnation.

[@Spongemonkey26]

That bulky Tyranid at the beginning is a screamer-killer carnifex. It was a very old model they brought back.

[@cegesh1459]

Good eye, that exactly what it is.

[@andreasbuehler1821]

@@cegesh1459 The bioplasma scream is a very clear tell.

[@cyberash3000]

im pissing myself at EVERY youtubers reaction to GW giving away free rules lol

[@Winterydee]

OC means Objective Control value per model. This means the feel bad of Objective Secured will most likely be gone.

[@VulcansForge]

The classic Screamer-Killer Carnifex!

[@bobfrancis123]

11:12 That’s the new Eldar Rangers Sculpt. Came out in 9th.

[@anonym0us371]

OC is allegedly "Objective Control" - a score that you add up for each mini on an objective vs the same for your opponent's to determine who owns it. This prevents silliness like "This Knight controls it for reasons despite being outnumbered 4 to 1 by enemy troops just because." The idea is it gets rid of a lot of rule keywords and abilities that confused things, too - but you need to do a tiny bit of math now.

[@Airier]

Huh, this actually seems like a very fair way to do it. Granted I haven't played against you yet, but it could be interesting to see how that works out (and who gets a zero in that section as well 🤔).

[@MN-vz8qm]

LOL I was watching the video and was wondering "what's with this guy?! the tyranid is obviously a carnifex! " then I read the comment section, and realized that I am more than 20 years out of date in my knowledge of Warhammer40K

[@ripLunarBirdCLH]

I like how the guy actually is all about the details while totally ignoring what Roboute Guilliman is saying.

[@samiamtheman7379]

You know TTS had a big impact on people when "he has Rogal Dorn's face" is an actual phrase.

[@georgemarsden4226]

11:36 yes, yes you have ... They are jackals of the world eaters codex (released a few months back)..

[@phaedrosx]

GW is indeed planning to sell datasheet cards on Day 1. So you can literally pull out the handful you need for reference and set them off to the side until needed.

[@snufflebunny539]

Him calling anything he doesnt recognize a hive tyrant makes the level of swear words i know unable to convey my anger

[@chris357t]

Terminators have always had access to that loadout

[@dragonrider0079]

Hallo, Tyrannid Player here, just wanted to have a fun time with ya on some unique Tyranid stuff. 3:42 I wasn't here for old Screamer Killer Carnifexes, but older players than I have stated that looks a lot like the old Screamer Killer....it also screams a guy to death. 5:09 I am personally thinking those were Lictors on him, the stealth aspect fits them too. 5:19 Biovores look good animated/maybe updated 7:16 these look like old Haruspex's? They're eating so I assume them to be lol Now the 1st of 2 big things: 7:41 - Tyrannid players are up in arms over whether that is a Flying Hive Tyrant or a different model, some are assuming it is the discontinued Shrike, basically a Warrior with wings. I actually side with the "Not a Hive Tyrant" unless it is an older version I don't know about, it doesn't have the massive armor segment around its face, only one column of vents instead of 2, 2 arms not 4, etc. Second thing, 17:55 - You basically figured it out, Hive Fleet Leviathan was believed to be defeated on the planet Baal, the narrator even states that those are lies from the preachers. Hive Fleet Leviathan is all about adaptation on a scale most Tyranids can't keep up with, mechanically you can't hurt their units on certain dice rolls because of the pure speed at which they adapt with, they are the perfect organism essentially. So while others are quicker, meatier, can dig around, have enhanced bullets, spray toxins everywhere, those ones can die and you don't need to work too hard to find out how to kill them. A Hive Tendril Leviathan creature eats a bullet and the surrounding hundred gain better armor, you get faster than it can swing at you and it gains enhanced muscular traits or more adrenaline, you build bombs they will find ways to resist them, it is frightening XD Anyways I hope this helps a bit lol, I love geeking about the dinosaurs. If I am wrong about any of this that anyone knows of please correct me I love to know more and actually be correct, spewing incorrect stuff sucks there is just so much in all sorts of places lol, you could find Tyranid lore in other random codex's and stuff.

[@dakkath414]

GW did this back in 8th. They gave away the rules* and indexes for all the armies for free. Then every new codex quickly overpowered all the armies still stuck on index only. *not really the full basic rules, just about 1/3 of them and not quite enough to play the game with

[@jonmattison3939]

I was thinking this same thing. "Core Rules" were free for 8th or 9th. Purchasing multiple "Indexes" still added up $$$ if you played the 'wrong' multiple armies. We can still be hopeful.

[@ExRazR]

15:25 - yep, i had that exact same reaction.

[@anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470]

This trailer is so epic the Galaxy just looks like it's coming apart at the seams and don't get me started on the voice of Gilliam in here he sounds like this unfathomably powerful demigod and yet he somehow still sounds completely human how he's portrayed in this you can see how much the death of his sons pains and but that he knows he can't show it

[@Banaaniapina692]

Mongolian throat singing 2:35

[@pjmcmurray5802]

14:10 The OC stat is Objective Control. Sounds like they are getting rid of the old objective secured way, and now you add up all the the OC points given by the models in range, who has the most, controls the objective. Note the termigant had an OC of 2, the ripper swarm of 1... so the termigant models are better at controlling objectives per model.

[@pjmcmurray5802]

Sorry, should be closer to 14:05

[@edim108]

15:25 Wait, GW not going for the money grab and instead doing something for the players? Who moved that chair in Jerusalem that keeps the timeline in check?!

[@Historyfrek4ever]

They also promised that they won’t put rules in the Ark’s of omen books, I don’t believe it until I see it. Still someone should check the chair just to be sure.

[@Kroq-gar]

The man emperor blessed us!

[@vavra222]

Man, do i not envy Guilliman. He is like a roll of ductape, trying to fix up a wrecked car a day before inspection or something.

[@matthewmiguel2319]

As you've already been told the large 4 arm one is a Screamer Killer, the Apothecary that got jumped was jumped by Lictors, the Terminator that got ripped in half that one is perceived as either a Shrike (flying Tyranid Warrior) or a Tyranid Prime with Wings, those 2 tentacle boi's who looked over are something new, and that Zoanthrope is most likely not a Zoanthrope it is new unit. It should also be said that there is a rumor going around about an Apex Swarmlord or some kind of new super Tyrant. As for Tyrants the are 3-4 times larger than a Marine. It would have been sick to see one in the cinematic.

[@tusk3260]

Since your last video of reaction to sw vs 40k was pushed back, this time it'll be 1 day earlier right? Meaning on March 25... Right?

[@Airier]

Yup. Later today.

[@RichardX1]

Reivers aren't the only Space Marines to use Phobos armour; other Vanguard units do so as well. Add to that the fact that the unhelmeted Marine's faceplate was standard Primaris and not skull-shaped, and I doubt that was supposed to technically be a Reiver.

[@ReedoTV]

I hope in the 10th edition rules it says that models without a helmet have 1 less wound

[@michaelmiller2418]

look up Screamer-Killer. It's the og Carnifex, and it's a classic concept that's been sort of redone every tyrannid refresh

[@fatcoyote2]

Das a Carnifex, Son. A Screamer-Killer. The most basic, and frankly, most effective version of said species. Dude, they're probably moving to a subscription service. The Rules are free...if you pay the monthly fee for access to everything Warhammer related.

[@Airier]

That's what they already had on their app (and one of the reasons I never bothered to get the app).

[@joshtompkins1538]

@@Airier actually went into more detail about this at the Adeptacon reveal. The rules will be free to download on day one but you will still need to pay for physical books.

[@neogokiMK00]

new offical video from Honkai Impact 3. A 1 hour stream of anti-angst fun! I highly recommend it to clean out all lingering pain from the game

[@someone-gy9yi]

The elder are the newer aeldari ranger kit (came with several new aeldari (elder's new tm name) releases this edition) and there is now a full world eaters army including khorne cultists (rather recent release). Also the OC stat is objective control, rather than having objective secured for troops in 10th (so 2 surviving orcs wont score an objective over the full terminator squad any more) all models now have OC. Basically to determine who captures objective do models * OC to determine who scores the objective. Also army rules on single page rumour has it universal special rules are coming back.

[@epiccthulu]

hearing the audible voice actors talking in this video has me wanting to play the tabletop

[@shiroyasha4995]

why was that apothecary working alone.. I have absolutely no idea

[@verysilentmouse]

Even better there's the Battletech KickStarter starter kicked off today

[@roastywagons9066]

That would be a primaris hellfire dreadnought

[@alexandersoriano5805]

i was confuse what was the planets with skulls on when roboute is looking at the hologram projecting the planets i don't know whether its a result of enemies have been destroyed because he mention 'victory' or the attack has failed and the planet has been destroyed or something

[@myflatlineconstruct]

17:00 I wanted to address the "money grubby " . Full disclosure, been a fan 10 years of the lore and watching DOW II. Never fielded a miniature. The grimdark , I understand that's going to appeal to a very narrow audience. Logically this means as a business you'd need to maximize ever angle to make a buck on this tiny group of fans to stay profitable. This may seem greedy if you compare it to another IP but the difference being most others have "good guys" and aren't flaying each other alive. Basically, 40K would have to dumb down the horror, watery weak stories to appeal to a broader basic audience to lower prices. Just a guess.

[@Archon3960]

Yeah. Seeing this kinda reminds me that GW owes other talented people for these trailers. Give Warhammer+ over to these animators and writers, seriously. 😎

[@nullakjg767]

Its not hard to make amazing animation, whats hard is to make amazing animation for longer than 2-5 minutes. It probably takes as much time/money to make one of these trailers then it does to make 3-5 episodes of hammer and bolter. People always get mad their faction isnt being displayed, its kinda crazy to committ so much to just a few minutes of 1-2 factions when you can have 10 projects featuring 10 factions. Personally I love the variety in 40k. With straight up hundreds of space marine chapters, and dozens of factions with 6+ subfactions each, it just makes more sense to go for the shotgun approach. Sure things like astartes are great, but remember it took that man straight up years to make 15 minutes of animation of a simple 1 squad boarding action.

[@Darth_Nycta_13]

Eldar did get new models, the cloaked bois are the new rangers, they're cool.

[@redpanda8383]

What do you think of the Arks of Omen?

[@ilesalmo7724]

I have a hypothesis that Emp removed the emotion of despair from the Primachs and to a lesser extent the Space Marines. The monologue in the vid is not how a normal general thinks in constant war

[@IONATVS]

I disagree-Big G prefaces all his comments on how great the war is going with “the preachers say” and he has a VERY dim view of the modern Imperium’s state religion. I interpreted his monologue as him bemoaning that his duty demands he must officially support the optimistic lie the preachers are peddling while he knows it to be a lie, all so the Imperium doesn’t fall apart in *total* despair. He’s acknowledging his role both as a pragmatic general who knows shit has hit the fan and is privately calculating the horrific death toll he’s overseeing AND as a demigod-hero propaganda spokesman who must lie to mothers’ faces that their children’s lives meant something for the next Guard regiment recruitment drive. This is feels like part of a more private (possibly even internal) conversation, neither a candid war room assessment nor a public propaganda speech. And filled with all the bitter sarcasm Guilleman can muster.

[@johnrost44]

They brought back Lion el Johnson!!!!!!!!!

[@gahlainrigh5927]

did you not watch the horus herasy cinematic? horus was the first canon primarch voice

[@lanaransom716]

It's the screamer killer it finally got a new mini he old one was really goofy looking.

[@Airier]

Yeah, I went back and looked at the old one. It is... definitely an early edition model. If the new one looks anything like in the trailer, that'll be pretty sick. 😁👍

[@guilhermeapm2273]

Hey Airier, have you seen that there's a new Akame ga Kill abridged episode on schmuck squad?

[@Banedragon]

Do you think the ogl dabocal that happened to wizards earlier this year is why they are doing The thing with the rules

[@Airier]

My instinct is to say no. But on the other hand, I know GW and Wizards due have a business relationship 🤔

[@Gozkiel]

Yeah, 10th edition with free rules is going to make me want to play more armies without worrying about the rules.

[@clawhammr666]

Just to be sure *free index , the new edition will bring new index rules for all but once codexes release, then back to the old one, since that will overrule index rules, but definitely agree, once you'll start on the new edition, you can definitely try lot of new armies if you wish, specially since they also tried to balance the combat patrol boxes against each other.

[@NoSoulJoel177]

I’M BACK BITCHES

[@verysilentmouse]

Huge claw dude lictor

[@paimonisfood4986]

I thought it was a Carnifex

[@Winterydee]

The Huge Clawed one is a Screamer Killer, a redesign of a very old model that has not been made in years. A Lictor is what attacks the Apothecary.

[@khalduras784]

Im pretty sure it slowly starts looking plastic because its like transitioning to the actual board game figures lol

[@nomus1172]

Huh it looks like the strategy of having a million replaceable worlds is starting to backfire on the imperium.

[@verysilentmouse]

Still not ever going to play 40k ever again mechanics have grown up since the leftovers of the 80s

[@Airier]

I mean, that is definitely an incredibly sound financial decision. 😁👍

[@verysilentmouse]

@Airier like I said battletech kickstarter starter free aerospace fighter if you back in 1st 48hrs

[@sterasigma8734]

I guess all those years spent bathing in space radiations and not getting moisturizers on your skin really did a number on you, huh Lion? Maybe you should've stopped hitting the snooze button.

[@ДмитрийКрижан-ч6д]

every one i see just talk instead of listening words

[@matthewdougherty1159]

the trailer was good and all but so was the dawn of war 3 trailer and the game we got was 😞

[@ibysdagon4659]

Really Blur studios never did a bad trailer at least rron a visual standpoint so not surprising.

[@jackpray8669]

Hi airiergames if you see this, can you please react to pancreasnowork warhammer videos

[@Airier]

This is actually the first time I've heard of this. What kind of videos are these?

[@jackpray8669]

@@Airier videos about characters and factions in warhammer 40k or fantasy/age of sigmar

[@jackpray8669]

Characters like roboute guilliman from 40k and factions like the ogres

[@jackpray8669]

@@Airier it's very funny and he make a few jokes in his video

[@Airier]

I might check him out, I just have a lot of things I want to get to first. Probably make a point to remember him. Even if it's just a watched in my own time because that does sound fun. 🤔😁👍

[@Pylo-ry6ff]

You know, several editions ago, the idea of a primarch coming back (or anything changing really) dragged me back into this fandom when I had completely lost interest. But now, with all of my favorite fan projects dead, at least two directly because of GW, I just cannot muster more than a meh over any of this. Also, ultramarines and tyranids are really boring at this point, and that was all this trailer showed. Hopefully, the leagues get something cool out of this, at least. They are the only thing I am interested in at this point.

[@nullakjg767]

you realize those fan animators were hired? at least the ones that werent harassed into quitting by the rabid fandom who hated them for wanting to be paid to make canonical content.

[@Pylo-ry6ff]

@null akjg That applies to literally none of what I was talking about so, no, no I don't realize that.

[@Pylo-ry6ff]

@null akjg Just to be clear, if so-called fans harassed people for deciding to work for GW that is terrible, and so are they. However, that was not the case with any of the creators or projects I was referring to, so it doesn't apply to what I was talking about.