HD Remasters - Game Sack

[@MetalJesusRocks]

Is that your massive backyard?! It looks like a nature preserve, large enough to hold animals!

[@cdc71792]

hi MJ

[@rojman123]

Looking for hidden jems? :-P

[@rojman123]

MetalJesusRocks

[@MRabbitFrog]

Yeah, as you can see there are already two animals in that preserve. Don't feed them though.

[@GameSack]

I wish I had a smaller yard, honestly. But at the same time I don't want the neighbors any closer.

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

This is, without a doubt, the most positive review of Silent Hill HD Collection I've seen so far.

[@theunbearablejuan]

It's far from the best versions of each game but they are playable enough after the patches. Shame about the bugs and aesthetic changes.

[@Lone432345]

i have only played the Ps2 editions. But somehow i bet the problems with HD version are overblown. As it usually is with overly sensitive gamers.

[@JmanRising]

Lone432345 Considering the point of a hd collection is to improve the orginal versions of the games, the backlash is well deserved. Doesn't help that the collection included the beta versions of the games though.

[@AlucardsQuest]

I would suggest 2, hour long videos to point out everything wrong with the games... but that video has lead to death threats against the person they hold responsible. The PS2 versions are the best unless you have them on PC.

[@AlucardsQuest]

Konami deserved the backlash... but not the one guy videos blame for it.

[@yaosio]

You guys are apparently the only people that like the Silent Hill HD remaster.

[@GameSack]

No we're not. And also, I don't really care what the general consensus of people on the internet is. It in no way influences my opinion.

[@euphoria_7477]

Opinions, how do they even work!

[@mistamontiel00]

I read they didn't have the finalized games , only pre-builds , lol

[@SkylerHuse]

It helps that they played the PS3 version that got a patch. The 360 never did. I would recommend the PC versions.

[@GameSack]

Skyler any idea why they didn't patch the 360 version? Most people in the comments section (so far) seem to be only aware that the non-patched version even exists as all they're doing is moping and complaining. Did nobody but me get the PS3 version?

[@MariusUrucu]

Devil May Cry 2 improves on the first game? Am I hearing wrong? Devil May Cry 2 is such a step back in so many ways... the combat especially. It's a miracle Devil May Cry 3 happened considering how bad of a sequel DMC 2 was. Also that DMC 3 footage made me cringe. I now realize why you like DMC 2... Do some other combos, launch enemies in the air and mix things up and you'll get a better rank. I'm not trying to be rude and I'm not expecting expert level play from you guys... but yours is bad even on a casual level. Still enjoyed the rest of the video. :)

[@MariusUrucu]

***** I know they're casual dudes, that's why I enjoy watching their videos. :)) But even casuals hate DMC 2. I just find it odd that they'd choose DMC 2 over the original DMC.

[@Sp1derFingers]

Had me cringing. I thought the video was being sarcastic after that and the Silent Hill recommendation.

[@mike001x]

Being a causal as a kid growing up, devil may cry 2 was such a bad game that it had me putting back in the first game in disbelief how bad the second one was.

[@yellowblanka6058]

+YesESyesy I would say they are more "core" gamers, with wide game experience in many games, but they don't seem to go in-depth in any particular game. I will say that their reviews are more in-depth than "Classic Game Room" (well, Mark's reviews anyway), which just seem to be him giving a very glib casual assessment of a game with little/no depth. Still, I think you should play a game at least 5-10 hours before reviewing it. I can't comment on DMC specifically as I have very little experience with the series, but I've seen them (well, Joe anyway, Dave tends to be more reasonable IMO) give a middling review for well known games without really getting to far into them.

[@VideoGameStupidLC]

He also said he liked the direction Resident Evil went in after 4 so I don't think their opinions are to be taken to heart.

[@BladeBlur]

Other good HD Remasters: The three PS2 Platformers: Ratchet, Jak and Sly Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (or Legacy) Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 Final Fantasy X Wind Waker and Twilight Princess Tales of Symphonia Hitman Trilogy Gravity Rush Not so good Remasters: Splinter Cell Zone of the Enders (1 is botched) ---- Also, maybe it's related, but you can also do an episode on "Definite Editions". While I do think there is room for remastered games from the 6th generations to the 7th, I don't think there is a lot of justification between a jump from the 7th to the 8th. SOME ideas are: Good definitive editions: Tomb Raider (PS4 in 1080p 60fps) The Last of Us Dark Souls 2 (The game is definitely more balanced) Earth Defense Force 4.1 Borderlands: The Handsome Collection BAD ones, and this time I mean BAD: Prototype Biohazard Collection (It suffers from more framerates and screen tearing than the original versions) Dishonored (No apparent improvements) Deadpool (Pretty much the same game from the PS3) Hope this little addendum I made will be of some usage in the future.

[@scottcowan7343]

I was going to go to sleep but fuck that Game Sack!

[@fcukugimmeausername]

Why, it's 5pm?

[@scottcowan7343]

fcukugimmeausername I guess different time zones.

[@alliemilleram]

lol it's almost 3 am in my time zone

[@fcukugimmeausername]

time traveler.

[@shaggydee91]

+UpUrAllie ur up my alley fo sho

[@Silvergun_Raven]

That Silent Hill HD collection.... (sigh). Good 'ole Twin Perfect made a great video talking about it a few years ago. I'll just stick to my originals :)

[@dirkleon99]

Spot on. And they rock

[@EarthboundX]

They must have only messed up SH3 in that collection, played through 2 and it was fine, nothing wrong with it.

[@RocKM001]

There's actually a lot of stuff that went wrong on SH2 specially on the audio department and the fog effect was actually terribly done =P If anything the biggest loss here was the fact that from the comparisons I've seen SH3 was actually *very* well done especially w/ the blood/creeping wall effects and whatnot which looked great on the upgraded engine and it's brought down by the mistakes done on SH2

[@EarthboundX]

RocKM001 Guess I'd have to play the original PS2 version and the HD version back to back to notice, didn't nothing anything wrong when I played SH2 HD.

[@ivanb4681]

EarthboundX you will... The fog and sound effects are terrible

[@theboone3848]

I loved the Wii version of RE4 I feel like it took advantage of wii controls better then 90% of 3rd party wii games. I was impressed.

[@AE1OU]

Silent Hill HD collection lol... now I know this video is a joke video XD

[@sharosudo]

right, they didn't mention all of the nasty glitches that can happen

[@kingvoxel6516]

I played through SH2 for the first time recently on this collection. I thought it was awesome. I never played the PS2 original version (though watch utube vids comparing them). I did notice some serious frame drops in rooms with dense vegetation which kinda sucked, but otherwise I thought it was on point.

[@sharosudo]

DiscordedHaru exactly

[@bobbynick5358]

Silent Hill HD Collection was false advertising

[@kingvoxel6516]

Bobby Nick In what way?

[@Dacho_Shaki]

Devil May Cry 2 improved over the first game? Uhm...were we playing the same game? I mean the helicopter and tank battles are obnoxious as hell.

[@GameSack]

That may be. I haven't played much more than an hour and a half through either the first or the second game (yet). Maybe part 2 starts sucking hard at two hours in? From what I played so far though I found part 2 a little less obnoxious in the stage design and had no issues with the combat.

[@Astfgl]

Game Sack There isn't much wrong with DMC2 per sé when taken on its own, but when compared to DMC1 everything just feels barren and lifeless. The environments are bigger sure, but they're mostly flat surfaces with repeating textures instead of the interesting architecture from the first game. The enemies in DMC2 have uninspired designs and don't pose much of a challenge, so you don't need to develop a lot of skill to get through them. Dante himself has none of the wisecracking attitude from the first game, he's mostly a silent brooding boring dude in DMC2. And what passes for a story feels detached and unimportant. The whole game is just low on entertainment value, which is a shame since the original was such a highly entertaining fast-paced action game.

[@JackieFroSTALKER]

It's a shame that Dante is so much worse in DMC2 cause his design is cool. At least that design got to be in a good game when Dante made a cameo in Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne.

[@sudacagamer]

DMC2 is crap and the first DMC is a masterpiece, maybe the hack and slash genre is not your "strenght", nothing wrong with that though but you guys should mention it, I don`t play FPS so much so I wouldn`t even attempt to review an FPS game

[@sudacagamer]

totally agree, DMC 2 Dante is great in terms of design His cameo on Nocturne was because Kazuma Kaneko (SMT character/monster Designer) designed Dante`s devil form on DMC2.

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Yo hold up. Did he just say DMC2 was an improvement over DMC1? LOL

[@FloppyFiona]

Lol, a half finished game is an improvement? I don’t think so.

[@V0YAG3R]

JarekTheGamingDragon The empty level design alone is dreadful, super cringe, what an amateur level designer would do in his first semester at say Digipen or Full Sail 👌🏻

[@yasselb478]

I guess he meant the combat

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

@@V0YAG3R Now there's a massive (and awful) hot take.

[@damonsalvatore3222]

Yeah....... Kinda instantly lowers the value of his opinion if not entirely discredits them unfortunately

[@MrJechgo]

For a second episode: - Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD - Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD - Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix - Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD Remix - Kingdom Hearts 2.5 HD Remix For other topics: - The NES Classic, plus some game reviews to compare - Pokémon - Crossover titles

[@grassycrab]

Silent Hill HD collection is one of the worst HD collections, do yourself a favor and throw it in the trash.

[@Vojingamer]

Yeah it is, but not their fault.

[@n0isyturtle]

It's actually pretty darn great... once you download the giant patch for it. They even give you the option to turn off the tank controls!

[@Vojingamer]

That is good. I mean, tank controls make for a scarier experience but they can be so irritating.

[@JmanRising]

noisyturtle The orginal versions already had that option.

[@rayeendelance7629]

Good thing I always look at game reviews before getting the games including remakes as well. I already save my money from not getting Silent Hill HD remake.

[@LizardOfOz69]

That's funny. "GOW's gameplay never gets old". Very funny.

[@knightsabre2k]

Wasn't the Silent Hill Remasters considered to be very poor compared to the originals? I remember a really large backlash against that release due to the games not running as well as the originals & a loss of atmosphere due to the way it handled certain effects. That seemed to be the case for many Konami HD remasters. The Zone of the Enders HD release was notorious for being just plain terrible in terms of performance. It did get patched to make it playable tho, but only on PS3...

[@thepickles8833]

it was a colossal mess of unbelievable incompetence.

[@XGames-94]

If you want the real Silent Hill experience that Team Silent intended for the games, avoid the HD collection like the plague.

[@kondrashovoleg]

Xtreme Games yeah, that plastic turd should be contaminated for the eternity

[@schtoltenheimreinbach7312]

I bought the HD collection on PS3 and ended up returning it. Even as a collector, I didn't want to waste money on such a broken port.

[@nobel11]

Agreed. No Heather Morris, no sale.

[@davebladegun3009]

Xtreme Games Agreed, 100%. And, in reality the PS2 version is the only authentic way to experience SH2. There are too many visual characteristics missing from SH2 in the remaster, for my taste. "Cleaning up" the fog just kills it for me.

[@hydra7311]

What about the PC or Xbox Original Version?

[@TNVGAMING]

Of all the games I've played in my life, I really wish Bandai-Namco would do a complete remaster of Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Veil. I played that game on PlayStation 2, and it became my absolute favorite on the system, and one of my favorite games of all time. The only issue is: very few have heard of it.

[@shreyasnayak728]

You'll be glad to hear that they recently announced it. Congratulations 🥳

[@wesleybcrowen]

Rumor has it that the real reason why SH3's dialogue got re-recorded is so that the original actors couldn't get royalties. Well, that, and the fact Douglas' VA is dead and makes licensing problematic.

[@EarthboundX]

Or that they couldn't find certain voice actors, think that was a big part of it. I know SH2 was about royalties, which Konami was able to fix.

[@RocKM001]

It was SH2 which had royalty problems hence the rerecording.

[@EarthboundX]

RocKM001 Yeah, but the original voices are there was well. So clearly they must have ended up paying.

[@FreaKill666]

If I remember correctly, no they didn't pay, the original actors(maybe not all of them) gave permission to reuse their voice-overs free of charge for the HD Collection.

[@kiwisoup]

You guys have it wrong. Silent Hill 2 originally was going to have just new voices but due to backlash they added an option to play with the originals. HOWEVER, Silent Hill 3 only has new voices and doesn't give you the same option.

[@kekeke8988]

Regarding DmC 2: "The fighting feels slightly more refined, and personally I do feel that this game improves on the first one." Legendary quote! Joe confirmed for having patrician taste.

[@Guns7469]

SEGA!!

[@sammyyo461]

CAPCOM!!!

[@sleepyduk16]

CHEESEBURGERS

[@sinoc229]

The Silent Hill HD collection is the worst way to play 2 and 3. They're riddled with problems and as you mentioned are literally unfinished. The PC versions are much better after some tweaking. Also from Konami, the Metal Gear Solid HD collection is fantastic, and completely overhauls Peace Walker. It makes the PSP version unplayable by comparison and does wonders for MGS3. I'm surprised you didn't cover it.

[@daniellado2523]

What about the Metal Gear Solid Collection on ps3. MGS3 alone looks really good.

[@nano_retro4624]

Daniel Lado that's pretty much the right way to do hd remasters. The ps vita mgs hd was also great for a handheld title.

[@Deep_wolf]

I bet they not gonna mention this game, so here are the shout out to THE SILVER CASE - best HD remake ever made!

[@Falcnuts]

looking this up now

[@598gh]

A great game from Suda 51 as always :)

[@Deep_wolf]

***** Its this better all early access modern season dlc pass crap.

[@EverScrolls]

"Made for the Gamecube controller; I mean it really couldn't be more perfect..." Try the Wii version, you'll be shocked how amazing it feels.

[@DiscordedHaru]

So much wrong here. DMC2 better than DMC1? Not getting WHY there is a voice option about Silent Hill 2? (It's a huge spectacle of Konami being shitty about voice actors) Really?

[@GameSack]

Yes really. Will you be OK?

[@mrdante361]

DiscordedHaru the fact that dmc2 sucks balls doesn't seem to matter.

[@NickBLeaveIt]

"I feel like [Devil May Cry 2] improves on the first one." Et tu, Joe? D: The combat in 2 blows.

[@JayDee284]

@lest its better than DmC in most ways :P

[@GameSack]

I didn't feel that way.

[@alessandrobaggi6129]

+Game Sack come on Joe, the movement was more confined in DMC1, but much more tight and precise... ':/

[@careyunknown3449]

NickBLeaveIt DMC 2 is the best DMC

[@NexusVerbal]

DMC2 is OK in the gameplay department. My main problem with that game, however, is that it's PISS EASY.

[@ZeusSoriaOrozco]

the silent hill hd remaster it's a mess

[@marvel8797]

they barely fixed the ps3 version, and the patch that fixes some things breaks other things.

[@KaizAmari]

i think you mistaken with Zone of the Enders HD Collection,...since yes, patches are only applies on PS3 ver, while xbox 360 ver just leave it to rot

[@Vexonia_Music]

I swear if Game Sack ever goes to a convention that I attend again, I am getting them to sign a boxed copy of Greendog for me

[@JohnnyLeyenda]

Sad to see you had to play the Silent Hill HD games, even if you were fine with them they're a complete disgrace

[@sheepnoisebah]

why?

[@sudacagamer]

Check Digital Foundry`s you tube channel and find out

[@sheepnoisebah]

***** i just wanted a short answer. i'm not checking other channels out.

[@sudacagamer]

***** Thanks, dude

[@KonaSquid]

Bluepoint does the best remasters.

[@Tjoeb123]

You look at HD Remasters, yet you don't look at the pair of JRPGs that literally have "HD Remaster" in the title. aka where's Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD Remaster? And where's the Jak trilogy? Jak 1 is my favorite platformer (fuck 2 and 3). Would like to see you guys look at all these if you do another episode on HD Remasters!

[@Zoibek]

uh oh they liked Silent Hill HD. Here comes the death threats

[@smoketreez666]

This is the second time I've read this in the comments regarding the SH remaster and death threats. I want to hear more it sounds ridiculous, yet somehow not surprising simultaneously

[@thedoge8651]

I'm surprised you didn't include the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection in here. Maybe another time? :D

[@GameSack]

Hopefully. Although I can already tell you that I'm sad MGS 1 isn't on there.

[@jesuschristgau8583]

yea but they aren't going to remaster MGS1 so why would it really matter other than giving new people the whole story (a story that most people can't follow any way)... would've been cool had they remastered Twin Snakes though.

[@somacruz7759]

We need HD remasters of Onimusha 1, 2, and 3.

[@nohomers100]

I would love that those games are great. But I read that since those games used likeness of actual actors they would have to pay royalties to them again or some legal stuff like that. That's why we dont see them. Why capcom doesnt just make a new game is beyond me but Crapcom seems stuck in Resident Evil and Street Fighter only

[@somacruz7759]

nohomers100 o.o

[@IMDLEGEND]

I agree. The Onimusha series is like Capcom's forgotten stepchild. They should include the Xbox exclusive Gemma Onimusha along with it.

[@somacruz7759]

IMDLEGEND :D

[@bartkomedy]

Funny, I actually bought the Devil May Cry HD collection earlier today. Oh Game Sack, I love when your videos are so coincidently linked to my life.

[@TheExaminedLifeofGaming]

I hate remasters, but I love Game Sack... guess I'll watch.

[@adesignersperspective]

greendog is bob cornhole's favorite game.

[@ElricSowrd]

I'm disappointed that you didn't talk about the Metal Gear Solid, Zone Of the Enders, Final Fantasy X Collection, Tekken Hybrid or Resident Evil 1 or 0 HD. And that's not how you rake! : D (26:07)

[@ProtoMario]

Instantly clicked, great video! I think the Master Chief Collection for Xbox One is one of the best, for sure. Online is working great now, and playing through all the games in co-op split screen is a joy!

[@videogameobsession]

Hey, if they are cheap enough and look better than the original I will usually buy them. Example... Devil May Cry HD Collection God of War Collection God of War Origins Collection ICO / Shadow of the Colossus Collection Jak & Daxter Collection Killzone Trilogy Metal Gear Solid HD Collection Ratchet & Clank Collection Silent Hill HD Collection Sly Cooper Collection Zone of the Enders HD Collection I also like quite a few of the PS2 Classics on the PS4.

[@nohomers100]

Wait DMC 2 improves on DMC1. Are you high? Did you hit your head? DMC2 is awful

[@thepickles8833]

You can tell by Joe's gameplay that he's a Novice to the series. He also praised the Silent Hill HD Garbage Collection, so yeah, it's not his specialty.

[@Gladson]

You should also make an episode about remakes (not remasters). There are some great ones like Resident evil (PS1 x Gamecube), Phantasy Star 1 / 2 (Master System / Genesis x PS2, released in Japan only but fan translation is available), Ducktales (NES x PS3), Zelda Ocarina / Majora's Mask (N64 x 3DS). Side by side splitscreen comparison like you did today would work great for this kind of video.

[@Betoven81]

"Devil May Cry 3...which was the THIRD game if you can believe that." lol do you guys like fucking with us?

[@GameSack]

Maybe...

[@Bobo_Tapia]

Sometimes the numbered games don't match their number. Like Assassin's Creed 3. It's the 5th one. Or the confusing FF numbering on SNES lol

[@tempatempo3805]

Whaaat?! No Remaster of the original Cybernator for the SNES? (Valken Assault Suits on PS2) DISLIKED/UNSUBSCRIBED!!!!!! nah just kidding, even though i liked the Remaster of the game since it added the censored cutscenes and faces in. Also it was a lot harder in the first stages and got then easier... weird. ( well the music sucked very hard, not even an explosion sound when your mech explodes!? )

[@Fattydeposit]

The remake of Valken for PS2 really did suck. It's the textbook example of how not to do a remaster.

[@KWKBOX]

No DOOM 3 BFG Edition?

[@DarkHalmut]

Its not that big a step up from the original.

[@leifilerkaka]

Leave Doom 3 BFG Edition out of this.

[@JackBandicootsBunker]

BFG Edition was just polishing the engine for better visuals (which reminds me of the Wolfenstein reboot in quality) and the flashlight change which makes the game less challenging. All too subtle in exchange for substantially higher PC requirements.

[@frankschneider6156]

Cleaning up the leaves: don't you have a flame thrower ?

[@tetrisdave]

Now that's a great idea!

[@goldenheartOh]

Interesting Fact: in the olden days, farmers used to set fire to their property every year or 2 to clear off the brush that had accumulated. Keep in mind I'm talking about old farms, how they used to be, which are not like modern farms. Farmers did a little of everything, including having a woods to hunt in. Burning every year or 2 kept the flames small enough they weren't hot enough to burn down trees or fences. There wasn't enough debris to do that since it was burnt so often.

[@ajktigie]

silent hill HD is broken,I still perfer the ps2 version.

[@nano_retro4624]

Apollo Yao silent Hill 2/3 ps2 versions with component cables look fine to me.

[@gregoryberrycone]

the PS2 version is the best looking version aside from resolution. there is an entire DF retro episode on it.

[@2namtaB]

My favourites on my PS3 & PS4 are:- Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4 remasters. I also like both God Of War Collections from the PS2 & PSP. I'm looking forward to the Resident Evil 2 Remaster and I may also pick up the Batman Arkham games Remaster and the Nathan Drake collection.

[@moviemetalhead]

2namtaB *Resident Evil 2 Remake

[@evilzinabyssranger5695]

RE2 Remaster will be the Game of the Year, maybe the game of the 2 years next when it comes out. JUST CANT WAIT!

[@Michirin9801]

Resident Evil 4 in HD is good and all, but we all know the best version will always be the Wii edition... Why? Because of those sweet pointer controls that make the aim so much easier, better and more precise!!

[@bubba842]

Michirin9801 ive got that but I preferred to use the Classic controller pro. Though I think you can use the GameCube controller on the Wii version too.

[@Michirin9801]

Tom Hill You probably can, a bunch of Wii games supported Game Cube controllers... But personally, I think that using the wii pointer controls is the one true way to play RE:4 ;3

[@bobbynick5358]

I thought the Silent Hill HD Collection was false advertising. Kinda like if a company said you'll get the original Star Wars films remastered, but they gave you Newer version of the Star Wars Special Edition with new voice overs that doesn't line up with the subtitles. Heck the title "Silent Hill HD Collection" is false advertising.

[@justagamer2672]

That Silent Hill HD collection has a LOT of problems, actually. Areas that don't load, causing your character to run around in a black void with no way to progress, random freezes, missing textures, among other things. Even hearing how bad it was, I still bought it, wanting to give it a chance, and hoping all of the negatives were just hyperbole. Turns out it's not; they did a really shoddy job with it. 2 outstanding games that deserved a lot better. Also, they left out Silent Hill 4:The Room, which is strange because it was a PS2 title.

[@GameSack]

I encountered exactly zero of those issues.

[@omegaweaponredux]

ps3 ver was patched. 360 ver was not.

[@benzo12]

You might be deaf and blind? Silent hill collection is terrible, I bought it at launch and was super disappointed, the patch didn't fix much.

[@MizfitZer0]

omegaweaponredux i have the 360 version, i encountered zero of these problems

[@EarthboundX]

Are those issues just with SH3 HD? I've played SH2 HD, and I had no problems. I have the 360 version.

[@gamesmaster5555]

Joe, Digital Foundry did an awesome episode on the Silent Hill series and covered the differences between ALL games on every system, he even pointed out some of the lacking and blatantly missing gfx on the HD remaster. And I agree SH1 needed some love and attention too. Another great episode.

[@Alanzice]

Fuck HD Remastereds and new content, we want more Greeeeendog!

[@surrealbrain4227]

KamatsuKyoto What about an HD remaster of Greendog with new content?

[@Nukle0n]

1080p isn't 4 times the resolution of 480x272, it's almost 16 times the resolution. Remember that we are working in squares here! But it's a pretty common mistake to make.

[@silvskill5358]

Wait where is Zelda wind waker HD re release? That game made wind waker amazing

[@bubba842]

Legend Of A Gamer odd that Dave didn't bring that one up. Well maybe there will be a part 2.

[@protocetid]

I'd argue WWHD was downgrade in the visual department. They added too much bloom, and it was worse in pre release! Wasn't it marketed as a remake? If so, why were only a few models give higher poly count?? TPHD I know less about, but I assume they did the same thing.

[@bubba842]

protocetid have you played WWHD?? It's amazing compared to the original. The game was completely remade and it shows. I've got both GameCube and Wii U editions and believe me the the HD version is definitely the one to play.

[@protocetid]

Tom Hill WWHD's gameplay alterations do make it more enjoyable, but it definitely was not "complete remade". It almost looks like an amateur enhanced graphics patch that you'd play in Dolphin.

[@NanaKyoto]

Where's stuff like the Jak & Daxter HD Collection or some other PS2 platformer remasters? Unless you already talked about them in a previous episode. And strangely enough, I never played a HD remaster of a game before, must be because I prefer the originals.

[@sammyyo461]

Same here!! I usually prefer the originals, too!! I don't know why.....but the original game's graphics has a certain charm......

[@RetroGamePlayers]

Super Mario All-Stars, non hd but pretty cool

[@HikikomoriMedia]

right

[@PixleyLore]

Iko and shadow of the colossus was a great set! It was the first time I was able to play them and I was blown away, I keep the box in a special spot on our shelf

[@adamphillip5305]

If your kids wont do their chores then threaten them with Greendog.

[@protocetid]

that sounds like slang lol

[@adamphillip5305]

I wont ask what for lol

[@ImTheKingOfHyrule]

There needs to be a part 2, maybe even part 3! Some of my favorite HD remasters (not included in the video): Sly Cooper HD Collection Ratchet & Clank HD Collection Jak & Daxter HD Collection Metal Gear Solid HD Collection Ninja Gaiden Sigma Resident Evil Remastered Gravity Rush Remastered Zelda Wind Waker HD Zelda Twilight Princess HD Beyond Good & Evil HD

[@ryorgb5516]

Okami HD is the most impressive and my favorite;) I mean the game render 3840x2160(4K) internally before down sampling to 1920x1080p +16x anisotropic filtering .. on a ps3. The game is so gorgeous and a masterpiece:)

[@SumeaBizarro]

Really Silent Hill HD is disastrous collection. There is numerous videos from dozens of minutes to hours long going through things that are just wrong in the HD just about in every way. This includes but is not limited to, having wrong sound effects in wrong places, having sound effects play at wrong speeds, swapping graphic around to extreme (Making beaten down town look not beaten down at all, changing numbers in signs for no reason. The surround sound was apparently great but it also swaps left and right with no reason in cutscenes. There is very poor audio placement in cutscenes, technical problems with, but not limited to, graphical glitching, wrong visual effects, outright slowdowns of games, crashing, etc. Silent Hill HD collection is not worth it especially when you consider that originals that are mostly bug free exist for PC, can go even beyond the 720p HD collection is presented at, do not contain any of the technical hiccups, and are cheaper and still compatible with modern PC's mostly to boot. Do not ever bother with Silent Hill HD.

[@GameSack]

Unless you want to.

[@Ledhus]

.. throw your money on a garbage bin. But hey, who is anyone to say nay? :)

[@SumeaBizarro]

oh yeah, I forgot the point where original developers once saw screenshots of the released version were asking "This is really the released version? Really?" on Twitter, and lamenting the HD version's state and it's impact on their story.

[@ColourShedProductions]

Unless you're a game collector, HD remasters are usually the way to go because normally you get more than one game, and enhanced graphics while keeping the gameplay intact. Other HD remasters worth noting are Ratchet & Clank Trilogy, Jak & Daxter Trilogy, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection and Hitman Trilogy...

[@dvdmike007]

Silent Hill HD is terrible and missing effects and textures, its the worst HD master THe VO was due to them not wanting to pay the actors

[@BigBangBlitz]

It seems that both of Devil May Cry 2's disks are not just really similar in content - they are more or less identical. You could load the start screen for one disc, insert the other, choose either character and play through the entire game without a single discrepancy. It's kind of baffling.

[@uncolober]

Wait a second, what? "DMC2 improves on the formula of the first one"? What the fuck is this?

[@rowsp85]

Unco Lober Yeah, does not compute. DMC2 is considered the worst DMC by fans yet they think it's better than the original. Whut.

[@shadoom]

Rowan Ponnampalam opinions am i rite

[@rowsp85]

Uninformed opinions are useless. Stop trying to justify lazy research.

[@shadoom]

Rowan Ponnampalam uninformed or uniformed? ;)

[@uncolober]

shadoom DMC is a genre-defining game by one of the most venerated directors. Really, for a game enthusiast to not know any game by Kamiya is pretty unfortunate, let alone his major works like Resident Evil 2 or DMC. But even so, DMC is a metiruclously crafted game while DMC2 is clearly a goddamn mess, both of which is obvious if one spends even a couple of hours with each game.

[@shawnschaller]

Just tried to play Shadow of the Colossus for the first time on the PS3 disc, inspired by this video, and am torn. One part of me is enraged that I have no idea what I'm doing as I ride around in the vast, empty landscape looking for... anything, really. The much larger other part of me, though, is like... HOLY SHIT this game is big/awesome/attractive/did I say big yet?/impressive/immersive.

[@deadchannel4792]

When you're going to bed but this pops up

[@bartkomedy]

MLGoose Games Exactly how I felt. "Oh its getting late, time to shut down the games... Nevermind, Game Sack"

[@shenlongschlong4264]

Game Sack is quality. Thank you so much for all those great episodes.

[@jamesbuc6116]

"I feel that the second one improves on the first" Honestly you may be the only people who think that one regarding Devil May Cry.

[@rowsp85]

Jamesbuc It seems they aren't familiar with the series, and the lack of research shows, which makes me wonder why they'd cover it when they don't know shit about it.

[@browsertab]

I have the HD Silent Hill collection, is it worth hunting down a PS2/XBOX version?

[@GelatinousSSnake]

Yes, that's the only proper way to play SH 2 and 3. Try to get the Director's Cut of both games, it comes with extra content not present in the original releases.

[@ballacaust]

The PC versions are far better now, there are mods that fix all the problems with resolution and audio bugs that were present at release. I just use my Steam Controller to bind everything and it works perfectly and looks timeless.

[@WeLoveClassicGames]

Best advice is to sell / trade the HD Silent Hill collection. Silent Hill 3 wasn't on the Xbox so it might be easier to get Silent Hill 2-4 on the PS2.

[@browsertab]

WeLoveClassicGames Silent Hill 2 and 4 is cheaper on the Xbox (and I imagine play and look better due to the console's specs). However, it sounds like I should try and track down the deluxe editions of 2 and 3?

[@WeLoveClassicGames]

I kinda prefer the Xbox version of Silent Hill 2. If you have both an Xbox and PS2 then pick up which one is cheaper / better for you. Don't know much about the deluxe / directors cuts. You should watch Silent Hill HD Collection Review by Twin Perfect.

[@Dashner100]

is 3d TV still a growing trend or what? A lot of these being presented in 3d, when 3d tv was the new thing, but I don't see or hear much about it these days.

[@Tb0n3]

Dashner100 3D is dead. Long live 4K.

[@bubba842]

Tb0n3 is there such thing as 3D 4K???

[@GameSack]

Yeah 3DTVs are not made any more. Good luck finding one. There isn't any 3D in the specs for 4K TV like there were for 1080p Blu-ray, but I imagine some could be wedged in there should 3D become popular again... which I hope it doesn't. Just goes to show you that gimmicks lead short lives.

[@bubba842]

Game Sack thanks for the reply Joe. Never got into the whole 3d thing, apart from the odd movie in the cinema. I personally think 3d is in the past and the next big thing is VR. Well maybe if that doesn't become an expensive gimmick and we only see it for a few years. Just imagine the PS VR and Oculus Rift in the bargain bins in a few years. Well I guess time will tell.

[@GameSack]

Tom Hill In my opinion VR will remain niché at best. It will never be mainstream, not as long as you need to wear stuff. Hell even wearing 3D glasses helps bring the death of 3D each and every time it becomes popular. And even without the glasses, most people play their 3DS with the slider set to 2D, even on the New 3DS with face tracking. Virtual Reality will really take off when people can afford to have holodecks/holosuites in their homes (and the technology exists).

[@ricardassteckas6620]

Hello guys! Amazing show! I have couple of hd games from different times: 1. Killzone 1 for ps3 (came in trilogy, quite good in fact) 2. Half Life 2 in Orange Box package for ps3 3. Doom 3 BFG edition (I saw vetter graphical mods over pc, but as for ps3 it looks cool) 4. Zombi for ps4 (it's way better looking game version than nintendo wii u) 5. Metro Redux for ps4. (Both included games in HD and also first one has added second part weapon upgrade system, so cool) 6. The Serious Sam Collection for xbox 360 (both old versions were remade in glorious hd, with proper new texture, lighting and physics engines. Though they left old sound and audio, but in general it's one of the best hd collection's that I have) Thank you for your show!

[@PierDaken]

Devil May Cry 2 improves on the original? Yeah.... no. DMC2 has worse level design but what is the worst about the game is combat. What everyone liked about the first game was severely butchered with terrible enemies and lack of any challenge or difficulty. I also felt the cpmbat was kind of floaty but perhaps it's just me. Overall, without enemies packing a punch and awesome bosses Devil May Cry 2 turns into a boring hack'n'slash, where spamming one single attack is okay. I'd say it even worse than the reboot.

[@linkno1]

Of the PS3 remaster collections I own, I'm really not impressed with many of them. Jak and Daxter, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid, Ratchet & Clank, Hitman, Tomb Raider...They range from absolute bare minimum effort to just straight up lazy cash grab ports. The only worthwhile thing about them is that i don't have to set up my PS2 to play them. Some of the barely qualify as a either HD or a remaster. The Final Fantasy X/X-2 and Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 collections were pretty good. Especially if you're a US player who finally got to play the bonus content (I'm from the UK, we had the 'full' PS2 version all along). They're more visually appealing not because they're now HD but because actual effort was put into updating a lot of things. They look beautiful, and the soundtracks got tweaked as well, most notably with FF:X. But lets be honest, Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker is the standard all HD remasters *should* aim for (but never do). Aside from the standard HD treatment we expect, they actually took the opportunity to tweak parts of the game, namely collecting the damn Triforce pieces. More remasters should at least try to do this since there's *definitely* parts of older games that could do with a slight redesign to make the remaster more enjoyable.

[@specknacken6507]

You kinda fucked up on the Silent Hill HD Collection but regardless it was interesting to see some differences in the other game collections.

[@friedzombie4]

Why did you not even acknowledge the other shortcomings in Silent Hill 2? I'm not even talking about the HD remaster here, I'm talking about the difference between the PS2 and Xbox. The PS2 is the superior version because of a locked frame rate in both gameplay and cut scenes with proper fog rendering (Search Digital Foundry Silent Hill). Go and look up and comparison between the 2, one is scaled down Bink video at 30fps and the other is 60fps goodness. You also didn't mention any other project like Silent Hill Enhanced Edition which solves almost all of the problems I described and displays in an unlocked resolution window and glorious 16:9. (good luck obtaining a copy now, but we all know what most people are going to do ;) Enjoyment is always subjective, but I can't endorse your viewpoints when you miss that many critical details. (and this is only with the 1 title i'm familiar with let alone anything else)

[@mrdante361]

Sorry guys. I turned this shit off when you said dmc2 improved on dmc1.

[@g1nobleteam]

mrdante361 Code for "wah I'm a big baby about video games".

[@GameSack]

How petty.

[@mrdante361]

It's a well known fact that dmc2 was made by a different team and sucked ass. It's not opinon at all. Also you guys shit on games all the time. so it's only right when you do it?

[@GameSack]

mrdante361 Feel free to shit on DMC2 as much as you want. I am not obligated to agree with you and you're not obligated to agree with me. Feel better? I hope so. No need getting grumpy over a videogame.

[@rluong5614]

Bluepoint Games also did a great job on the Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection on PS4. I didn't play Uncharted on PS3 so having them on PS4 was great. I also enjoyed the Valkyria Chronicles Remaster on PS4 even though they didn't really do much besides trophy support and having all the DLC on the disc. Not that the game needed much because it already looked amazing on PS3. The best remaster to me is the Final Fantasy X-X2 one on PS4. It's just really well done in my opinion.

[@segasdreamer]

Definitely Metal Gear Solid HD Collection was awesome. All the textures were redone and it's at 720p with 60 frame per second gameplay. I own the PS3 version an it supports 7.1 surround sound as well. Apparently they tried to push the system because some scenes and the final battle suck the frame rate right up to an otherwise smooth experience.

[@vesselinkrastev]

How about Okami HD? That one was done pretty well. Also, the Ratchet and Clank Collection. Some people are complaining about glitches I 'm not all that familiar with the originals so I didn't notice anything wrong with the games. They run at a pretty stable 60fps.

[@chemergency]

Silent Hill HD Collection was a big stinker. Maybe it's the slightly more tolerable patched version but it's still crap. Devil May Cry 2 was a casualized pile of hot garbage, clearly they didn't play it long enough to notice the differences. Other than that though good video.

[@raminudl]

The Metal Gear Solid HD collection is pretty great. Updates the games to run in 720p, updates MGS3 to run at 60fps instead of 30, Peace Walker to run at 60 instead of 20. Also gives Peace Walker a new control scheme to take advantage of console controllers.

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

Chronicles of Riddick Assault on Dark Athena. First port was on the original Xbox. Visual on the PS3 remaster are much improved and refined. That's one hd remaster that I've bought for my library. That I know of of coarse.

[@YadonTheCat]

RE4 to me feels like it's made for the Wii To me that's the ultimate version of RE4, it just controls so well By the way, the recent HD version also made it to PC, but you didn't mention that. That also makes it the second version of the same game on PC, but the first port was so horrible that I'm glad they redid it

[@deathstinger13]

next time, I'd like to see Jak and Daxter collection, Ratchet and Clank collection, Wind Waker HD, and Twilight Princess HD. And maybe the two Zelda 3d Remakes; Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask

[@HPPalmtopTube]

c'mon guys, no ratchet and clank remastered on PS3 ??? ;) one of the best PS2 series ever ;)

[@demikraw3523]

Just... just look at some technical reviews of SH collection, ok? :) Oh and BTW, this is the COLLECTION of TWO games from the series that consists of at least SEVEN !!!111

[@DeegoL9]

People hate on the Silent Hill Collection a lot but i enjoyed the higher resolution versions on my PS3, my main complaint is that it didn't include Silent Hill 4 which is the only Silent Hill game i haven't played. You guys need to do the MGS HD collection on PS3

[@teh_crazydude]

say what you will about windwaker, but the hd version of that came out amazing for nintendo's first stab into hd remakes. makes me happy i was able to pick that up for free thanks to club nintendo[rip] and mario kart 8.

[@ruuddezwart7917]

I love Game Sack!! They are the best and most fun gay couple on KZbin and a flagship for the LGTB community. Did somebody knows if they're married?

[@MoonSpiritChannel]

I guess the Silent Hill HD collection is great on the PS3 then. I hear the 360 got the short end of the remaster.

[@benzo12]

No, it's also terrible, even post patch. Don't buy it, get the ps2 versions or download the PC version with the fan patches.

[@MoonSpiritChannel]

That's what I hear too, though the PS3 is supposedly mildly better. Shame Konami screwed up on this one, unsurprisingly.

[@ShadowLady1]

PS3 version just got a small patch but the port was based on incomplete code so theres no fixing that mess

[@valiktoma2542]

Re4 HD was great for PC cause it finally had passable mouse support, which made the gameplay much better for those who play with keyboard and mouse.

[@protocetid]

Man these should be released on PC, it doesn't help that some ports are very limited with graphics options so these remasters would be nice. The URL says gay, heh.

[@idklol4197]

i miss that 2012 era of games having 3d tv support. its going to take several decades until we have super ai built into our tvs to replicate those days

[@Nascar995]

Try Gravity Rush Remastered. Or Windwaker HD. Those are my two favorite remasters and they're ridiculously well done. :D

[@TheAxeGrinder]

You guys haven't seen the in-depth videos on the Silent Hill remasters, have you?

[@Locomamonk]

great episode, I loved learning all the little million things that separate a good hd remaster from a bad one, really fascinating and loved you guys as always. Really interesting and insightful episode

[@timg2727]

You should cover Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD to mix up the Playstation / Xbox monotony.

[@madsaltyskills]

Silent Hill HD and DMC 2 sucks un'sub

[@disporting]

SEGA, give us a Panzer Dragoon trilogy HD remake. You can reverse engineer Saga to get the the code! Do it!