Piss Poor Ports 4

[@GameSack]

What are some ports you consider PISS POOR? I know Mortal Kombat 3 on Game Gear was mentioned. What else?

[@KillThad]

Mortal Kombat 4 for Game Boy Color.

[@santimaci]

red dead redemption on ps3 yikes if you ask me

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

College Football '97 is a magical slideshow on SNES. It may be the worst game on the system.

[@JomasterTheSecond]

Revolution X. Even the "best" port of it is still really, really, REALLY bad.

[@jcags]

I don't know if it's in one of the other episodes but Batman Return of The Joker on the Genesis and the unreleased SNES port sucked ass. I didn't understand why the game was considered one of the best Batman games ever because I played the Genesis version first.

[@kayceecheshall2818]

I'd love an episode of nothing but complaints about US Gold games.

[@rebeccasam3434]

I'm not 100% sure if I've played one (didn't they do a probably awful Strider sequel?) but those two SF2 ports were astounding! The GB and Master System can do better I think (at least the GBC did for sure, though it's a lot more powerful) but those were just hilariously bad!

[@esmerylan]

Especially the ones done by Tiertex. Would a deep dive into their library break Joe completely?

[@matthewnikitas8905]

All of them are straight up trash. Especially ones developed by Tiertex

[@XenonXyanide]

Yes, this totally. Bad Amiga ports are fascinating, usually due to the extreme time constraints and budgets, that a small team or person had to develop the port.

[@rebeccasam3434]

@@esmerylan oh no, I hadn’t heard of that developer, what did they make?

[@AmberShort]

I like how Joe isn't afraid to speak his mind. Keep on being you Joe. 😆

[@DenkyManner]

Gamesack is a pretty cool guy and eh doesn't afraid of anything

[@mmpsp693]

Love the Mercs gameplay video on the side at the end

[@nightzelmods]

What would he be afraid of? Devs from 30 years ago? 😂

[@AmberShort]

Watch the video again Nightmodz.

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

​@@nightzelmodsIt's from a meme.

[@alainsoucysergerie9879]

How they write Balrog correctly at first only to "correct" it to Barlog afterwards is crazy enough, but the announcer saying the name wrong too is just incredible...!

[@rebeccasam3434]

Could that be because they couldn’t get the voice right, and had the graphics reflect it? 😅

[@rebeccasam3434]

@@jash21222 yeah, I guess I misunderstood. That’s funny then!

[@LockieNZ]

I had to pause for a bit, because I thought you said that Thunder Spirits, for the Super Nintendo was published by SEGA! A quick google revealed it was actually Seika 😅

[@GameSack]

LOL. I was pretty surprised when I learned that TechnoSoft did the port themselves. I don't think they put much love into it.

[@64-Bit-Gamer]

I also heard Sega

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

It sounded like Sega to me. I was like what Sega publishing a game for the SNES? And I was like wow, SEGA actually published a game for Nintendo system back then LOL.

[@Rabbitlord108]

@@GameSack Who knows. Perhaps said port suffered from being a lower priority for TechnoSoft at the time.

[@LockieNZ]

@@Rabbitlord108 Probably the SNES lacking Blast Processing 😂

[@RomanLugina]

The best retro gaming channel period

[@AdamJamesNoyce]

My wife and I have a little game we play. She bets me that every episode of Game Sack will mention either the NEO Geo or Shinobi, two things she never heard about until we got together and I started watching Game Sack. I lose those bets more often than not.

[@AnthonyFlack]

If there are people in the world who haven't heard of the Neo Geo or Shinobi, then obviously they still aren't being mentioned enough. Maybe next time you get coffee, order it for Shinobi.

[@hanginglow420]

I'm a new subscriber to the channel. I've heard of Game Sack but just never checked it out and that was a mistake. This is legitimately one of the best Video Game based channels on youtube. Keep up the excellent work Joe !

[@GameSack]

Thanks! Always glad to hear when people discover the channel. Hope you stay. :)

[@princekev45]

I love the endings on each episode. Keep up the great work!😂

[@rebeccasam3434]

Yeah, they’re really fun. He’s been doing something special with all this. I love the ridiculous interstitial stuff like putting rygar in an nes backwards and things like that I’ve seen 😂

[@robintst]

"Hey, SNES! Scroll the screen and move a ton of small sprites around really fast!" SNES: **has a stroke**

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

I'm so happy to see that Piss Poor Ports has finally made a comeback after so long! Shame there's little to no spitting this time.

[@angryretrogamer7313]

Me and my older brother use to invite friends over for Madden tournaments on the genesis. That was when the Sega Genesis was like magic to me especially Ghouls n Ghosts. My goal in madden football was to get the ambulance to come out and run over the players. Its hard to do. Sacking the QB enough times he will get injured. I didn't even care about winning the game. The ambulance was my win on the rare occasions i got to see it. Sega Genesis is still probably my favorite game console. Herzog Zewi and road rash along with Skitchin. I actually still own them today and i got them when i was around 10 years old. Still have my Genesis too. I enjoy all game sack episodes and am awaiting those Sunday mornings every time. Thanks Joe for making the show and making it so dam good. Even without Dave😉

[@Mr_Wheez]

Best show in the world that deserves waaay more followers. Thx for countless hours of entertainment ❤. Piss poor ports make a piss poor Sunday morning awesome!

[@ThroughAGlass_Darkly]

I love how your hatred for the word "shmup" has endured through all these years 😂 thanks for another great episode, Game Sack is a guaranteed solid watch.

[@ДенисЕвсеев-м4ы]

It sounds like shmuck

[@BashoftheMonth]

It has nothing on "metroidvania".

[@ciaranmccarthy]

It will always be "shoot 'em ups" to me.

[@Rando1975]

I can't stand that term either.

[@ciaranmccarthy]

One I've only heard recently is "STG," which is a term used in Japan for "shooting game" apparently. I like shoot 'em up as it fits well with beat 'em up.

[@King_K_Rool_]

An improved port of Alien Syndrome would have made for a nice early Genesis game. Shame they didn't do that!

[@caseyhayes4590]

Yeah, Genesis could have got very close to 1:1 except for how bright the colors are on arcade. A great port would have been nearly as popular as G&G which was one of the more popular early games. I think they could've just done it as an arcade style game but with limited continues, unlike Shinobi where it was great they reinvented it for console.

[@rebeccasam3434]

Ghouls and Ghosts on genesis is literally the only game in the series I like! @@caseyhayes4590

[@AnthonyFlack]

@@caseyhayes4590 - it's a crying shame that there was never an accurate port of the original Shinobi, though. The PC Engine version is only so-so.

[@ilikecurry2345]

Which reminds me - didn't Joe do Alien Syndrome here already? He even goes through the exact same points, even the Tengen N. E. S. port!

[@OkamiAuraHenshin]

Hey Joe, FYI the GB port of Street Fighter II does have individual endings but you have to beat the game on 3 star difficulty or higher to see them.

[@rebeccasam3434]

Interesting. Street Fighter Alpha (I think?) on gbc is supposed to actually be good, and while gbc is way more powerful, I do wonder if they could have made sf2 work on gb better. Maybe degrade the graphics some and focus more on the gameplay?

[@fattomandeibu]

@@rebeccasam3434 I have SFA on GBC and it's simple. They did away with the big sprites and used smaller 8x16 pixel ones, this means both characters could be hardware sprites, GB SF2 used hardware sprites for player 1 and software sprites on the CPU using background tiles for player 2. With the CPU unburdened from having to redraw about a third of the screen every frame, it can draw more frames and give a smoother experience using similar hardware. It's not as good as people say it is, BTW, but considering it's on GBC they did really well making it run like it did.

[@rebeccasam3434]

@@fattomandeibu thanks for the explanation! That’s really interesting. I guess that explains both how the characters are so big on the original gameboy game (throw all your sprites into creating a single character), and why it’s so choppy. It’s kind of impressive, but I think it was the wrong direction to go. That is such an interesting solution, even if it doesn’t seem to totally work! So the game boy color supports 8 x 16 pixels sprites? My understanding is NES only supports 8 x 8? Wasn’t until the TurboGrafx/Genesis/super Nintendo that you started getting more sprite sizes? I didn’t notice that while to me the games didn’t look all that much better, the NEOGEO pocket color fighting games FELT right to play There’s so much about so many systems I wish I understood better, I love games, I love tech, so the intersection is super fun to me

[@fattomandeibu]

@@rebeccasam3434 I can't remember how big GB sprites are, but I believe it is pretty much the same spec as NES on sprite size and number. It wasn't really that rare to use software sprites, as a lot of computer systems used for gaming systems(computers like the ZX Spectrum, Amstrad CPC, Atari ST and IBM PC) wouldn't have hardware sprites at all and every game would have to use something similar. Keep in mind with the Neo Geo Pocket is that it is from 10 years after the Game Boy. It can handle bigger sprites and a higher number of them without breaking much of a sweat.

[@rebeccasam3434]

@@fattomandeibu I guess I do know even on the nes that they’d use backgrounds as moving characters basically…Megaman 1 did that even. Snes games used backgrounds so they could have giant characters that scaled. In both cases it would often be against a black background, which looked fine! But it wouldn’t have occurred to me about street fighter two on the game boy! I recently found out that punch out does some interesting stuff with that. I’m trying to remember for sure… I think little Mac and Mario are actually background tiles, and the only sprites are the big bosses, like they’re using all of the sprites to compose them. Unless I have that screwed up… And it’s really interesting like movement that little Mac does is actually scrolling, some of it, ditto for Mario, so not all of it is the CPU having to do new tiles, some of it it’s just a GPU scrolling! I don’t know, it’s just really interesting stuff But I had thought that the NES was only 8 x 8 sprites and you didn’t get anything larger until the TurboGrafx 16, genesis, and super Nintendo, but I could totally be wrong about that… Unless that is a new capability of the game boy color, since it is a lot more capable in different ways! I wish there was a resource that would list all of this and exactly have a hardware worked, like I found different sites but it’s often incomplete or doesn’t list stuff for every system .

[@Dac_vak]

Thanks for the vid, Joe. Another great episode! Edit: Ahahah the “Barlog” edit killed me

[@jrchmgn.]

I always listen to Game Sack before going to sleep, always play Oldest to newest until I fall asleep. Love their voice and humor. Kudos and God bless.

[@MagisterHamid]

Here’s an idea for an episode: Console games that got an arcade port. Games such as F-Zero AX, Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Arcade, Twisted: Nitro Stunt Racing, Virtua Fighter Remix, Baku Baku Animal, Decathlete

[@BMPK]

silent scope or was that after

[@MagisterHamid]

@@BMPK that was first in arcades

[@jessragan6714]

Cosmic Chasm for the Vectrex! That got an arcade port!

[@Rtype90mk2]

Bomberman would count, in fact there is a couple Bomberman Arcade games.

[@rebeccasam3434]

That’s kind of intriguing, and could include those nes games I guess. Thunder Force 3 I guess it was actually fits this! If it’s actually easy, I’d probably like it. Certainly looks good enough and fun enough.

[@laboratoryrack6488]

The writing on this episode feels more inspired than usual (at least enough for me to notice). Nice to see that after all these years Joe still manages to surprise.

[@rebeccasam3434]

Yeah, this was really fun!

[@charleybarley7148]

Lmao

[@ilikecurry2345]

7:27 A similar thing happened with the Game Grumps, although they trudged on through rather than resetting it because they thought it was hilarious.

[@ilikecurry2345]

Also, congrats, Joe, for finally covering an MS-DOS game!

[@atn7092]

MERCS playing sideways on the TV set behind Joe is commitment to the bit I can get behind 😂

[@Pooby1000]

Oh Game Sack, I can always count on you to be there to soothe my Sunday morning hangover.

[@xyvillanueva4936]

Joe Redifer! Always looking forward to your Game Sack episodes! Makes my day! 👍👍

[@mrdeatheli]

Shmup is for shmucks! I'll die on this hill with you, Joe!

[@Harperlarp]

'Outlawed in 16 states' made me chortle good. Another classic skit :)

[@Vinicius_Berger]

23:48 Mercs was also released in Brazil on the Master System.

[@ilikecurry2345]

Let me guess. Does the company rhyme with "Neck Boy" and come from a country where they levy heavy taxes about 5 times more than the games themselves?

[@darrnellnott07]

More like "Con-Troll" lol love the skits every time

[@Athesies]

You've got some awesome series on this channel dude, stoked to see another P.P.P. episode

[@Hijynx87]

You down with ppp yeah you know me!

[@nickfmn]

The Sega Master System port of Street Fighter II let you use the Sega Genesis 6-button controller for the complete move set.

[@DGFTardin]

Joe hates Alien Syndrome on SMS so much he added it again lol

[@CarloNassar]

Yeah, that pretty much explains it. I'm surprised he didn't also bring up the NES version for comparison a second time.

[@Prizrak-hv6qk]

Thanks for brining this up. I thought that I was going crazy, remembering that he already bashed that one.

[@Kohaku233]

Yes finally another Piss Poor Ports! I love these videos.

[@marbles8641]

Neighbors dad had an Amiga growing up. He never let either of us play the system because it was his baby. I remember he got SF2, and my friend claimed it was arcade perfecf, Chunli didn't even wear panties (we were 12). Thank you for clearing a 30-year memory.

[@ShinobiNeon]

I'm actually kinda disappointed that during the Mercs segment, we didn't get an explosive, adrenaline-pumping, screaming-at-the-top-of-your-lungs, "TAAAAAATTTEEEE MOOOOODDDDEEEE!"

[@cloudstrife1983]

I was expecting it.

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

Just so you know, Street Fighter 2 on Game Boy DOES have character endings, but you don't get them if you're playing on a low difficulty. This happened in other ports of Street Fighter 2 and even other fighting games like the SNES version of Killer Instinct.

[@KeepEatingIt]

This makes me smile on the toilet!

[@JohnAGalvanArt]

Ye Toilet Watch Squad

[@americanmeowth3336]

THanks for the vid! The outtro skits continue to be a complete hoot.

[@johneygd]

the last part was the funniest part and with a controller you’re not only controlling the console but also at what’s happening on screen and you’re also controlling your mind as well,hence the name CONTROLLER🤣🤣

[@n00bc0de7]

Every new Madden is just a port of the previous year 😂

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

That would be an improvement. Modern Madden has lost a ton of features since the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox original days.

[@TheFLOMAN76]

I love some Sack!! Game, that is. Good stuff Joe 🤘

[@projectmayhem6898]

Thanks!

[@GameSack]

Thank YOU!

[@rufusray]

Twice the piss and vinegar? Cant pass that up lol

[@marcianzero_yt]

I had played the SNES version of SF2 in a department store. Loved it. So when I heard about it being released for my trusty Amiga, I had to have it. Pre-ordered it. Two month allowance used for it. Played it to death. Overlooked all the flaws. I had SF2!!! ;)

[@gadgetvideos]

Me too! I got a pirated version of SF II for the Amiga back then and although it wasn't as good as the console versions I had a lot of fun with. I bought Mortal Kombat for the Amiga in the department store and I also thought it was an OK version of the aracade game. I never regretted my purchase. The Amiga ports of those fighting games may have not aged well. But back in the old days there was nothing like it, so the standards were lower.

[@FallicIdol]

And the sad thing is, static screen shots for that port look pretty good. Its only seeing it in motion that you know you were duped. I bet they fooled a lot of people

[@3vi1J]

"Or 'shmup', if you want to sound like an idiot." lol... Entertaining as always!

[@drewwhitney7327]

My favorite part is when Joe poopoos the word “shmup.” I love shooters, and “shmup” sounds so dumb. Sounds like a beverage. “I got a jar of peach shmups if you want any.”

[@Openthemeyes]

I laughed this whole video lol. From shmups to laying on cots lol. They was comfy asf lol

[@zg-it]

I didn't think I'd spend my Sunday morning watching Joe show off his different sticks.

[@AK-sq9zy]

Best retro game channel out there. Keep up the good work!

[@JustinLeeper]

I was really expecting to see Steel Battalion’s joystick at the end. But nope, you zigged when I thought you’d zag. 😂

[@crohns8263]

Considering it's the Gameboy, I'd say Street fighter 2 was a pretty damn good port.

[@PKMNwww411_MkII]

The SFII bootleg from Korea is a surprisingly good port. The NES port of Alien Syndrome developed by Sanritsu was released in Japan by Sunsoft. Ports of NES games on PC were usually crap.

[@markmyers6756]

Mercs was one of the games my dad got with our Sega back in the day.

[@voltcorp]

great jokes on this one I chuckled at "jimmy cameron" and forgetting the word for vertical screen mode

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

No idea why, but this is one of my fave subjects on game sack

[@g40rc378]

"Barlog wins", excellent!

[@weeblbob233]

I love shmup games. That being said thanks for reminding me about SF2 on snes. Its been years since I replayed my cartridge.

[@Lenskee]

Music in the SF2 port for Amiga kicks ass even to this day! Us, Slavs, didn't know any better back then, so we played this choppyness like crazy! Fun times. 😂

[@moverofobjects]

Joe have you considered doing An episode dedicated to the worst attributes of certain games? Worst screen tearing, draw distances, worst parallax, sound, Etc? It would be informative to show us the juxtaposition of the great when shown the worst.

[@3vi1J]

lol... I loved that Sega Control Stick! I used one with my Commodore 64 for years. Durable and dependable!

[@DJSpaceRetrotunes]

I still own the Street Fighter 2 PC (DOS) game and used to play it on my 386DX PC. As far as I remember there are sound fx using Soundblaster card. The sounds resembling kicks and punches though are just white noises and one note synth sounds produced by the YM3812 chip. No PCM sounds at all.

[@polariuzz]

at 15:48 dhalsim is excited to celebrate early

[@t3hOutlaw]

That remix of Dark Chronicle's (Cloud 2) Time is Changing is amazing 17:06

[@lurkerphoenix]

Your videos are a treat, thank you

[@EEEasdfasdc]

just sat down to take what feels like will be an extremely difficult BM, and saw this new episode. Thanks for easing my pain a little bit, Joe

[@colddogs]

difficult baby mamas are the worst

[@JaredConnell]

Same. It's 40 minutes later now, I hope it came out ok. Wish me luck!

[@EEEasdfasdc]

@@JaredConnell thanks man, took some work and determination but finally expelled the evil within. Did it around the 12 minute mark

[@RootVegetabIe]

Water and fibre, my blocked-up friend.

[@skins4thewin]

Lol love how you picked the worst Joystick by far at the end 😅

[@neoasura]

The gameboy did have some good 8-bit renditions of the music from Street Fighter 2.

[@JoeStuffzAlt]

I sometimes forget how impressive the Genesis / Mega Drive could sound with the right composer

[@ExplosiveNotes]

21:36 The word escapes me as well. It's popular with vertical shmups.

[@LXZ]

Hi. Just quickly wanted to mention that Motor Raid can be played as an Arcade Game in the Judgement games... 😏😏😏

[@doslover]

"Shmup if you want to sound like an idiot." Turns out I do, I want to sound the dumberest. The friend thing is fairly accurate too. 😅

[@CDages]

11:18 that info is 100% incorrect. All characters have their endings (from SSF2) relatively intact in the GBY port. You can even hear every ending track in the games sound test in the Options menu. You have to beat the game at a difficulty of 3 or higher.

[@zintosion]

SHMUP YOU JOE!

[@TheSnoopyclone]

Mercs was such a great game for the genesis. I always thought it was a 2 player game but it was only single player. Played every mode with every weapon on every difficulty. It was fun.

[@TheVampirePredator]

"Shmup to sound like an idiot" FINALLY someone says what I've been thinking for years! You're saving absolutely nothing verbally by saying this as an abbreviation of "shooter".

[@Ace-rg2ic]

Joe finally making his feelings known on the term "shmup" - shots fired (no pun intended)

[@faenethlorhalien]

Ah yes, the vertical screen mode, I think it was the "TATE ART GALLERY MODE!"

[@notenoughmonkeys]

Not only am I exceptionally high IQ, I'm also a good dancer, plus I happened to notice you've already done Alien Syndrome in PPP 2. So does that make this video a port?

[@drewdogg77]

The SNES Madden 93 has crazy 2 player co-op glitch. If you run a certain fullback run play, and have 2p control the fullback, the fullback can streak straight to the post. The qb will do a spin as if to hand off the ball, but then throw a 100% accurate, unblockable pass. Guaranteed big play.

[@peteanderson2533]

The control stick for the Master System is truely bizarre lol!

[@homiedclown]

A truly awful controller.

[@joaobabler1584]

that Tec Toy's Street Fighter 2 Master System port was praised by Capcom here in Brazil. The guys from Capcom think that was a poor Mega Drive port, and Tec Toy showed that was a Master System port....Capcom aproved right away. (I'm not kidding at all).

[@lasersnake]

GAME SACK, GAME SACK, GAAAMMME SAAACKKKK!!!!

[@skibidi.G]

Best channel ever🎉

[@JimLeonard]

Street Fighter II on the gameboy may have had a low framerate on purpose, as mitigation for the ghosting of the original GB screen.

[@itsyeeoledskoolfurry3208]

I have a query for and @Game_Sack if you PLEASE. 0:37 What does that JVC ( Is it a VHS / DVD player / recorder??) item feature 3 separate AV cable inputs / outputs for? Thanks so very much! 😁 Just wondering.

[@Boogie_the_cat]

Options. A man needs variety.

[@Mintcar923]

I guess Mercs was Capcoms answer to Ikari Warriors being they added drivable tanks

[@jamisdempsey8884]

I will forever be an apologist for the master system version of Alien Syndrome. I didn’t even know there was an arcade game when I asked for it on my 10th birthday, I was sold on the box art that reminded me of ALIENS which I was crazy about. I feel single screen vs scrolling works very well for this game. Game is challenging but fair, and boss fights are epic.

[@sirchicken1330]

Love your Videos, Joe! ❤

[@heilong79]

Mercs on Genisis was fantasic, only missing the nultiplayer from the arcade.

[@Kamikazeray]

12:44 U needed to press both directionals at once, for an example, a hadouken isnt pressed down>foward>punch but down+foward+punch at the same time.

[@GameSack]

That's screwed up!

[@dyBBelyBTASTIC]

You should really do an episode on the PC-Engine ports. There are some truly head scratching ports on that system. Shinobi: No bonus stages, no power ups, no meele attack Altered Beast: The single most delayed jump in video game history Chase HQ: Your answer to the question "can a driving game ever be to fast?" Thunder Blade: Does this game have a good port? Ninja Gaiden: a 16bit era game that has scrolling rutines worse than a zx spectrum game. The NewZealand Story: It's missing 4½ levels.. how can you be short 4½ levels in a 20 level game?!?!?!?!?!? Raiden: A lauded game for it's time but take a look at the stage 6 boss compared to the arcade and think to yourself. How are you expected to dodge that with a player ship that moves slower than the arcade version?

[@thefroyukenfiles3641]

Isn't that Shinobi port also missing an entire set of levels?

[@EliezerGrawe]

You should do "Left in Brazil" or "Left in Tec Toy" 🤣.

[@DankRedditMemes]

Thunder Spirits and Madden really showing the SNES's lack of blast processing :v

[@bennyjay1982]

I watch every video you put out but I only hit like for the end skits.

[@voteDC]

I have never understood how people say Alien Syndrome is based on the Aliens movie, they look absolutely nothing alike.

[@lmcgregoruk]

10:25, Chun-Li got her fireballs in Street Fighter II Turbo, not Super Street Fighter II, I remember playing the Mega Drive Street Fighter II:Special Champion Edition, and the Hyper mode gave everyone at least one extra special move(except Guile and the 4 "bosses")

[@thedandyp]

I had to do a double take, the parts at 1:24, and 1:44 are incredibly similar to the end section of Bucky O'Hare on the NES, which came out a couple of years after Thunder Force 3, let's just say it inspired Bucky!

[@jasongillson6563]

No music on the SMS Mercs port? What the hell! Love watching these videos. Have you ever done one on games with alarm sounds when you're low on health? It'd be interesting to see which ones are annoying and which ones are somewhat tolerable lol

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

all of them and then none of them.

[@AwakenedPhoenix309]

With the intro on that first one I was expecting you to talk about a port of Green Dog I didn't know about.

[@djcactus]

Nothing quite beat having to take a week off school to play streetfighter 2 on the amiga. Thw amount of discs and load times was terrifying

[@gk_tonic7843]

Great shirt!!!! :D Cool episode, thx!!

[@borja6324]

Mercs for the MS was awesome!