Game Scoop!: What Were the Big Advancements of This Console Gen?

[@bigmeanbunnyuk]

Hi guys - this is Kev from Sheffield. Thanks for reading my email out! Shout out to any other Amstrad kids out there. Love Lemmings too!

[@thiagoporto8001]

Have to disagree with the point that faces look worse now. Games like the last of us 2, Uncharted 4, and red dead 2 show great improvements from what was previously seen in past gens.

[@2drealms196]

@Thiago Agreed, subsurface scattering and PBR materials are giving us more realistic looking characters and environments

[@davidcurtis17]

Yeah, I agree. Eyes and facial expressions are getting waaaaay better as well. Assassin’s Creed odyssey is a great example of that. You can nail exactly what emotion Kassandra is feeling just by her facial expressions alone, there is a ton of nuance to it, far more moving muscles in the face than before. Very expressive eyes too. It’s getting nutty. I’m betting the next gen, soon to be this gen, games are going to start looking so real it’ll be creepy.

[@thiagoporto8001]

@@davidcurtis17 Totally agree. I'm willing to bet the next Naughty dog game will breach into photorealist territory - at least in regards to character model and animations. Also, I really liked Kassandra's animations too, and can't wait to see what Eivor looks like next month!

[@Arandyfatdude]

@@davidcurtis17 have to disagree with Odyssey. Think assassin’s creed facial animations for Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla are quite lazy.

[@squiddly007]

I genuinely laughed out loud with Justin's dead pan delivery - "The best jokes are the ones you have to explain after".

[@Michael_Ian_Blackface]

Why was that funny?

[@squiddly007]

@@Michael_Ian_Blackface Because Sam explained the joke for people that might not know the reference and if you have to explain jokes, they arent funny.

[@Michael_Ian_Blackface]

@@squiddly007 yeah I got that. I was joking. My joke was getting you to explain the joke "The best jokes are the ones you have to explain after". Given that I am now explaining my joke, I guess that it wasn't that funny. Or does me explaining my joke about making you explain how a joke about how the best jokes are the ones you have to explain after, actually make it funny?

[@iXiClub]

@@Michael_Ian_Blackface Impressive.

[@pacman10704]

@@Michael_Ian_Blackface very meta lol

[@djgroopz4952]

This generation has advanced gaming in a lot of incredible ways. There's something for every type of person. It's been an absolutely magical 7 years!!!

[@bigmeanbunnyuk]

No light gun games though 😢 I miss them.

[@bradcuster]

Yes! I can finally stop refreshing KZbin since my favorite part of the week is now up. Thank you guys in advance for all you do.

[@AcornElectron]

Turn on notifications?

[@thunderwood]

Love the podcast. Have a great weekend Scoop Crew!

[@gamescoop]

Thank you! You too!

[@nelusss]

The hair (fishtail braid?) of Abby in The Last of Us 2 was great. It didn't go through her backpack or shoulders, but her hair fell nicely on top of them.

[@juancarlos84]

Scoop! One of the best parts of my week 👍👍👍

[@MookmacV]

The UK/European 80s gaming scene is fascinating. For anyone who wants more of that (alongside plenty of console stuff) I highly recommend checking out Retro Gamer magazine which is a monthly publication written here in the UK but available worldwide

[@nvc.]

Best scoop in the world!!! Best podcast in the world!!

[@TheKindredblades]

I agree with you Tina, Lovecraft Country was really good. The only problem is that now I want a proper H.P. Lovecraft stories show.

[@MookmacV]

Can you post the rest of the bad tea pun names in the description/comment?

[@matthewsan78]

Super Castlevania IV is my favorite SNES soundtrack. Total masterpiece.

[@8SweetPotatoLattes]

Leaing a comment just to show love for the Super Castelvania IV soundtrack bites throughout the episode. Brings back great memories. Love the Scoop crew, great episode as usual!

[@jermelpurse3018]

We may see some relief when it comes to video games size. This generation sometimes they have to duplicate assets so that games can load progressively as we play them with a solid-state hard drive you don’t have to duplicate assets

[@aaronjones6798]

I tend to think suspending games was the biggest advancement of this gen, now being able to suspend your console and game then start it up quickly without having to load a save. Nice to hear a mention of the Amiga, my first computer with my first games

[@charliemilroy6497]

I know that this is possible, but I have no idea if I have ever taken advantage of this feature

[@jablocanas]

I went 100% digital with my Switch, and will be doing it this gen also now!

[@Chris-wk1si]

Always make me laugh. Still the best show on IGN.

[@xCaroI1435]

someone's BG makes it sound like they're in space. it's like a very subtle "woooo" sound hahah

[@austinjoy668]

The question we've all been wondering, did you finally locate Ricardo O'Skeleton?

[@Bermmc]

If next week is episode 600 of Game Spook, does that mean the following week is episode 600 of Game Scoop?

[@SlightlySalted11]

Weird hearing a comment from Sheffield! I'm from there :) Also where TB was from

[@Huddison]

Please, it's Z (zed) X Spectrum _not_ Zee X - it may seem a petty point to bring up, but it is the proper way to pronounce the UK 8-bit, wonder micro machine👍

[@nickhodges8706]

Hey Sam -- you can buy the photos for botw in Hateno village

[@ce4779]

There is a Ninja named Mook in Broforce but it is an NPC. So not wrong to include it as a 'Yes' but in the context it was misleading and I would've clarified for the ones guessing some context of how 'ninja' related the game is, for fairness. I mean it is hard mode already and its cool to see when they guess it.

[@drjones694]

If you want a spider man vibe sunset overdrive i just started its really good

[@meldrew69]

I started it last night, very cool feel to it but kinda throws you into it. I've probably only played 2 hours. It's not what I was expecting but I think that will be a good thing.

[@bigdb4755]

The scout leader was my fav character.

[@irvyne6111]

Ahhhh, love the ‘Vania music! ^_^

[@Linkje]

Can someone tell Sam that in BOTW you can also buy the 1000 pictures :). Also counts for completion. as long as you finished the compendium you're good

[@gosthunter39]

Am glad @justin D mentioned Ted Lasso also my fave new show on Apple TV, my free subscription also got extended for 3 month.

[@banzaisdead]

Justin was thinking about the Messenger, right? Great game, also Devolver.

[@TheRealMangolorian]

HAPPY 600!!! This is the way!

[@mickael486]

I forgot to send in my 20 questions suggestion. I send it every year in October. Maximus: Ghosts to Glory.

[@JacksonWallop]

Question for the Crew and Comments: Are there game mechanics you miss from old games that you can't find today or are rarely done well today? My examples would be FF:CC's unique multiplayer coop/competitive goals. The 2000s had a lot of unique blends of FPS/RTS. There was a total war game that let you take control of one of the generals from RTS mode and hack and slash in 3rd person through the hordes of troops. There's a lot of PC games in the 2000s that had novel multiplayer experiences that just don't exist today, and are poorly documented and lost to obscurity (10six, wulfram2).

[@JacksonWallop]

kinda miss all the mid size studios and their experiments. Indie came in to fill the void but they don't quite hit the same.

[@RemoMafia]

Apparently Justin's idea of an elevator pitch for Ted Lasso is to tell the character's entire character arc and how things change by the "end of the show". Ugh :/

[@PeterDB90]

Watching Hauntings of Bly Manor and completely agree with Tina - that was my sentiment. Hauntings of Hill House was fantastic - it's like an actual full budget horror movie stretched out over many episodes. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Hauntings of Bly Manor on the other hand seems more like a drama show with a tiny bits of hauntings sprinkled here and there.

[@RichardLamaletie]

I find digital copies automatically download the latest update. Physically you can make a mistake. Bought Star Wars fallen order physical(computer didn’t recognise the update). Bought digital.Computer knew what to do.

[@Michael_Ian_Blackface]

I can't think of a show that has baffled me as much as Ted Lasso. It's a show based on a character made for ads for a sports TV channel. It's a comedy that isn't particularly funny, not that it even seems to be trying to be funny. It's not a dramedy because there are no dramatic stakes. Any potential conflict is always quickly and quietly resolved. Marriage trouble? Amicably polite divorce. Coach vs star player clash? Offscreen club trade. Even the big season long plot point of club sabotage is revealed and resolved with immediate forgiveness. I don't know what this show is but I just know that I love it.

[@mikezags]

Everyone puts so much into their set and then there’s Justin. The sheet over the the window is like a bruise. Hurts to look at but I can’t stop

[@mattj2692]

I recently bought halo mcc on disc. 40 gb install. 100gb update!

[@ambrosiajam8008]

You know you’re playing a game released in 2018-2020 if your character walks outside and the volumetric light blinds you before your ‘video game eyes’ adjust

[@ShadowFoxInfinite]

And that isn’t an 8th generation feature- volumetric lighting was done in Factor 5’s GameCube games.

[@nvc.]

Geting a PS5 also gives you access to all ps4 games.. its cool..

[@CosmicWolfPack]

YAAAYYY! double 20 questions!

[@garrettspencer3887]

Yo good vid just supported you

[@ParadoxalDream]

20:55 You know an online feature as made it mainstream when even Nintendo has it.

[@JoeOklahoma]

Huge Gamescoop fan. And a huge tea fan. My Zojishuri has a 212 degree setting. Great for black teas. Would love if y'all did a gongfucha sesh. Not a huge fan of herbal blends but I dig it tea fans!

[@jacobpro_]

So.. this is really episode 601? Confusion 😂

[@rodchan1]

Scooooop! Love the podcast. One of my inspirations for my gaming podcast What's your 5? :) keep up the great work

[@tranwc]

That fire emblem is game is available on the DS. I have it.

[@TLugs]

Hi Omega Crew, Scoop! Justin asked about TTG, I love Dicebreaker (kzbin.info) for any TTG or TTRPG info. Knowledgeable without being dry, they have a unique style that makes me check out all of their content, including stuff that would not normally appeal to me.

[@stuartbagley2586]

Games as a service is easily the biggest advancement of the current generation. We went from a few MMOs and the odd game here and there to a sub genre. I think it’s a glaring blind spot for most of the media because they are focused on completing games and moving to the next.

[@nickjames4661]

Brade is a vampire ninja. I think broforce is on Gamepass. It's awesome

[@TeamTigerBloods]

the next big step in tech for games will be in physics, complete destructability/deformation.

[@Egarciajazz]

So is this episode like a Miles Morales situation? Like it continues the franchise but it’s not a numbered addition to the franchise?

[@TheSilentTiger89]

I have tried so many times to get into Fire Emblem and other games that are popular in Japan, but it never works, can't seem to enjoy many anime type Japanese games. Maybe if I lived in Japan it'd be easier to get it.

[@Rob6990]

'Omega Cops' episode of Gamescoop! Also it's been a really hard week - been looking forward to this

[@trent82]

Super Castlevania IV might have the best game soundtrack.

[@johnbussiere]

oh I played the hell out of [hard mode game answer]!!!

[@litaljohn]

Definitely can't plug Kinect into an s , anyone wanting to still use a Kinect had to purchase an adaptor. An adapter that is not being made or available anymore that only MS sold. Nothing of value was lost.

[@rtkiiiprod]

@Sam The Haunting Season 2...this season was just a love story. I thought it was decent but 1st season is way better

[@gibbysg8143]

No kitty that’s my pot pie!

[@jasonhowland2903]

Kobra Kai!!! Never die!!!!

[@albinkarlsson9943]

Sweep the leg!

[@ambrosiajam8008]

I actually hate that every game shoehorns in open world, rpg-leveling progression, dlc, and loot boxes, games as a service, etc. the future of gaming is fucked

[@TiVo67]

I’m 2 episodes in of Bly Manor and not feeling it. Doesn’t sound like it gets any better so probably won’t be investing anymore time to it.

[@squiddly007]

It is slower than the 1st season but it picks up in a few episodes. Stick with it and it will deliver.

[@icehulk2]

Sam. Please don't pass on Legend of Korra. You will be grateful you gave it a chance. Highly underrated.

[@charliemilroy6497]

If you want to experience the best of the current generation you need to buy a PS5 if you are also getting ready for next generation

[@Settledown77]

‘Butt first!’

[@MichaelCordeiro]

Should check out this recent DF video about AC: Unity. This game from 2014 nailed facial animations and lip syncing, it's too bad a lot of other engines and games in general still couldn't match how good it looked here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYKYfJSOmcqimpo

[@deeejaaay8518]

Scoop crew do any of you like sports if so what sports.

[@gamescoop]

nah

[@face76]

Games won’t be as big with installs. A big part of that is because games would have to install 400 copies of say a tree or something like that on a hdd. Now that ssd are being used games won’t have to install 400 copies of an asset anymore.

[@ShadowFoxInfinite]

Developers will have to change how they build games to do what Cerny suggested, so no that isn’t happening. That entire PS5 demo was a pitch to other developers on how to change development- it was never about the SSD because the true magic is that you now have an insane amount of RAM where the game truly sits data. This is why even worse performing SSDs still work just fine on PS5.

[@AcornElectron]

Sharing. Play, streams, clips, pics, levels, designs.

[@TehThxsis]

Hey my best friends I see once a week to talk videos games and play video game 21 questions!

[@mecharobots]

Dlc is still the same as some games launch with content ready to pay for on day one . But yes I agree the perception of people domt seem to moan as much but then again dlc kind of free or hidden in loot boxes

[@PeterDB90]

Are gamers mostly cat people? I don't know many avid gamers personally, but of the 2 I do know, one likes and has cats, and the other does not have cats only because he is allergic (but also does not have dogs). That's a pretty small sample size, but then there are all the gamers I know from streaming and shows/podcasts - Damon, Justin, Sam, and Tina are all cat people, several of the streamers I've watched have mostly been cat people (SaltyPhish, Seagull, etc.), and while it's safe to say most gamers love all animals to begin with (so many people were upset you couldn't pet dogs in Zelda), I feel like I see a pattern of preference for cats at least when it comes to pets you have at your own place. My very flawed theory on this yet unverified conjecture is that gamers spend a lot of time playing games and thus cannot be bogged down by a high-maintenance pet such as a dog and would rather have a chill, mostly independent pet such as a cat.

[@oghomelesskid]

omga cops episode 2

[@Poppedcollar]

Tii Sports

[@zmj1799]

Sam, I implore you to watch The Legend of Korra now! I just watched it a few weeks ago and as a huge ATLA fan I had some issues with it but it had me rewatch ATLA right after and now I appreciate TLOK much more! So, I think you will enjoy it much more by watching it now instead of waiting.

[@mickmast8901]

Scoop of the spook

[@jasonhowland2903]

I hate the numbers flying out of the enemies especially on games where are use a gun. Understandable on games with swords or whatever but I am glad I have options to turn it off if I can but I hate it when there’s guns I do not like bullet sponge games

[@HardcoreGamer101508]

The tea names are really not very clever. lol

[@Magnus1718]

Super Castlevania IV

[@squiddly007]

One of the best soundtracks ever.

[@Magnus1718]

@@squiddly007 most definitely

[@iFish12]

Cat scoop!

[@iFish12]

Side note: I miss Mark Madina! Hope he’s doing well over working from home

[@xCaroI1435]

SCOOP! and Hey, listeners :)

[@forry1909]

FFS, it's the ZED-X Spectrum (so NOT ZEE). 😋

[@marcusmalone]

A joke for all the 'Hobbit heads' 👍

[@THX1968]

Slayborn is gettin' skinny!

[@AcornElectron]

Not pc....micro computer. Again, it beggars belief at how little knowledge the IGN crew has on gaming outside North America. With the exception of Peer.

[@raven122199]

Haunting of bly manor is boring as all hell

[@boardvision11]

🍔🍟🥤🤡💄😷

[@frombauer]

Firsttt Scoop

[@lags7164]

Hopefully, this gen has an implantable brain chip that injects your cranial mood, synaptic activity, etc into games while factoring in games' procedural generation. With how 2020's gone, why not?