Game Theory: These 25 Pokemon are DEAD Because of YOU!

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Pokémon Legends: Arceus raised a LOT of questions about the history of the Pokémon universe. Today, we are tackling one of them. Why are the regional Pokémon from the game MISSING in the later games? One word: EXTINCTION! That's right, something caused the Pokémon to die off, leaving the current world without them. What was that cause? Well, it was YOU - the player! Yep, it's all your fault. So sit back and I'll tell you why.
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@Buzterer
@Buzterer Жыл бұрын
If that's the route we're going with this, we have to talk about Lapras. There is a guy who said he spent his childhood afternoons breeding and releasing Lapras back in genII because the pokedex said they were endagered. Fast forward to genVII, now it says that due to peoples efforts wild Lapras' numbers have rise to the point it is no longer in risk of extinction
@ShinyHunterMuck
@ShinyHunterMuck Жыл бұрын
Yessss I was thinking about that story!! :))
@adamnakamura8003
@adamnakamura8003 Жыл бұрын
On top of that, Scyther got an entirely new evolution (Scyzzor) that results from an item that looks man made, at least it looks like that to me.
@testerwulf3357
@testerwulf3357 Жыл бұрын
@@adamnakamura8003 It did :)
@heisenbergcollins8153
@heisenbergcollins8153 Жыл бұрын
Virrik kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2LNaqKtd9qqmrM
@shrekecomment8056
@shrekecomment8056 Жыл бұрын
@@heisenbergcollins8153 jaja
@numbug1234
@numbug1234 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, given that Voltorb and Electrode are deliberately meant to resemble Pokeballs to serve as traps, I think it's likely that they transitioned from an apricot design to a more metallic design in order to continue tricking trainers who had largely switched to using more modern Pokeballs (presumably since the Apricorn Pokeballs were gathered unsustainably)
@benito23453
@benito23453 Жыл бұрын
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@mago_malvado96
@mago_malvado96 Жыл бұрын
Bot sweep!
@itsdarkhere
@itsdarkhere Жыл бұрын
Seems plausible
@henry_alphonse
@henry_alphonse Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was my assumption about them as well
@ActuatedGear
@ActuatedGear Жыл бұрын
That's assuming that they're not the tragic results of faulty pokeballs.
@plasmaxblade
@plasmaxblade Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Arceus had another motive. They saw that without the player's intervention, Volo, the "Pokemon Wielder" would have torn the world apart by driving Dialga/ Palkia mad. Volo himself posits that the player was sent to Hisui to prevent him from realizing his plans
@The-Bisexual-Queen-Kitty
@The-Bisexual-Queen-Kitty 10 ай бұрын
ya
@charliekahn4205
@charliekahn4205 Жыл бұрын
I think one problem with the Voltorb example is that they don't canonically reproduce naturally, and can only exist where Pokéballs exist. So it makes sense that they would be made of the kind of Pokéball that's in use. As metal Pokéballs became more popular, fewer wooden Voltorbs were created, and they eventually died out.
@betpokemon
@betpokemon 11 ай бұрын
technically pokeballs aren't canonically made of metal. From what we know, they are still to this day made from apricorn as the only pokeballs we see that are made are the special pokeballs made by kurt, all being made from apricorn.
@spiderfrog2023
@spiderfrog2023 9 ай бұрын
so voltorbs are man made pokemon?
@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXx
@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXx 6 ай бұрын
@@spiderfrog2023yeah, I think so :)
@WarriorSims38
@WarriorSims38 5 ай бұрын
Pokemon become existence continues rages on ash Ketcham achieved pokemon master didn't he there pokemon become existence because protagonist of pokemon series because doesn't stop team rocket at the end of pokemon series off reach realm because of that misty have to pay ultimate price with her own life how ever life of misty can not obtain Laboratory leader because of ash Ketcham focusing on pokemon master Misty's demise was demission shorty after Pokemon Sun and moon released Pokemon trainer iris is newest champion His best friend electricity mouse pay ultimate price with his own personal life Lists goes on leading up to myths pokemon now found worldwide more pokemon starting become existence continues seeing New realm delcatty along with another pokemon
@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXx
@xXxM0nzt3r_V0m1TxXx 5 ай бұрын
@@WarriorSims38 what?
@moriahIGWT
@moriahIGWT Жыл бұрын
a pokémon theory??? it feels like it’s been years
@Mango-yt22
@Mango-yt22 Жыл бұрын
@Milan 💛⤵️ shut up
@Mango-yt22
@Mango-yt22 Жыл бұрын
@p you too
@rylancanmakemoorepuns1753
@rylancanmakemoorepuns1753 Жыл бұрын
There's way too many bots
@dandyanimates
@dandyanimates Жыл бұрын
His last video was literally about pokemon
@doguedifferent5174
@doguedifferent5174 Жыл бұрын
It HAS.
@gabbydragonway8810
@gabbydragonway8810 Жыл бұрын
Alternatively, without the player’s intervention, humans may have simply tried to exterminate all Pokémon entirely out of fear. Arceus could have been trying to avert the worst case scenario.
@MegaDragonmark
@MegaDragonmark Жыл бұрын
agree. matpat just can't help but make everything sound like the main characters fault. or that the main characters are evil. it is like a running gag that evolved into a overused running gag. these theorys are way too cheep. anyone can make these theories with little effort in them and have the same results. it is overall boring.
@Elipson52008
@Elipson52008 Жыл бұрын
@@MegaDragonmark yes, everyone can, but not everyone will. Mostly because it does require effort. Making a video like this isn't as easy as you think. However, i do agree that GameTheory is overusing, "The Player is EVIL" shock factor click bait.
@MegaDragonmark
@MegaDragonmark Жыл бұрын
@@Elipson52008 i was talking about whipping up a theory a kin to the thory in the video. i was not saying it was easy to make a dam video.
@MegaDragonmark
@MegaDragonmark Жыл бұрын
seriously. its just relating what we did as humanity to the environment. so on and so forth. i already know that humanity is a pain. i do not need more reasons to hate it more.
@pdelta
@pdelta Жыл бұрын
@@MegaDragonmark He never stated that you, the player, were evil. He just stated that this was your doing.
@tanandalynch9441
@tanandalynch9441 Жыл бұрын
If anyone is curious, Basculegion and Hisui Zorua line are excluded as it was humans hunting them that allowed them to exist. When humans stopped doing such, basculin stopped evolving and Zorua/Zoroark lost their hatred of humans.
@Chaotic.Fish88
@Chaotic.Fish88 Жыл бұрын
Well, then where did they go?
@bt7777
@bt7777 Жыл бұрын
@@Chaotic.Fish88 did you not read what he said :|
@Chaotic.Fish88
@Chaotic.Fish88 Жыл бұрын
@@bt7777 No, sorry I understand I was kinda shy in my wording. What I mean is where did all the Zorua go? To Unova? That’s a while away, there’s no way *all* of the Zorua went to Unova. Maybe they did tho.
@bt7777
@bt7777 Жыл бұрын
@@Chaotic.Fish88 probably not all but idk
@Chaotic.Fish88
@Chaotic.Fish88 Жыл бұрын
@@bt7777 well if not all the Zorua left, then where are they in modern Sinnoh? That’s what I was asking
@PomSoda
@PomSoda Жыл бұрын
Man. I would love to see a game theory about how Garganacl is absolutely the main export of the Paldea region; with Pokémon being generally region locked, and their entry being about how they use their salt on their fingers to heal pokemon, it makes sense that they would be farmed to use that salt to make healing food..
@ThePhantomStinker
@ThePhantomStinker Жыл бұрын
Personally, my expectation is that Arceus's plan was twofold: To send you from the future into the past to encourage humans and Pokemon to become symbiotic, but also sent you BACK to the future with the knowledge of how these Hisuian forms became extinct with the expectation that modern civilization would be able to bring them back. Peat may be gone from Sinnoh, but it can still be imported or possibly substituted with a synthetic. And today the region relies much more on renewables so its value as a possible fuel source is very much diminished. The same goes for apricorns: Gone from Sinnoh, still available in Johto, etc. Stantler may have lost its natural ability to learn the move, but a TM could be developed to teach it to captive Stantler. And so on and so forth.
@ferdinandverkaart1265
@ferdinandverkaart1265 Жыл бұрын
peat is plant organisms that died and ended up in the water, so the great swamps should have some peat still. so yeah, peat making a comeback could totaly happen :D
@cristhianalejandrolopezova7822
@cristhianalejandrolopezova7822 Жыл бұрын
Maybe thats what happened, they are some pokemon from hisui that will be wildly in the next game *Scarlet and Violet
@phoenixali4479
@phoenixali4479 Жыл бұрын
Metal coat could be a sub already
@KrisRN23935
@KrisRN23935 Жыл бұрын
The games to tend to do that with Fossil Pokemon so why not?
@awesomeness_man9550
@awesomeness_man9550 Жыл бұрын
@@phoenixali4479 metal coat and the augurite are literally just old a new versions of each other rock=old metal=new
@LoganWH8
@LoganWH8 Жыл бұрын
I think Ursaluna might just have been a trait that wasn’t useful enough for Ursaring to keep. Honestly, the Pearl Clan wardens might have been the only ones who could be bothered to evolve an Ursaring. Ursaring are already apex predators, so why would they bother to find a peat block and keep it until a full moon? Assuming they’re even smart enough to understand their own evolution requirements, not only would they be wasting energy to search for the item instead of say, searching for food, they would also be losing all the benefits of being bipedal for a power boost they didn’t need in the first place.
@Clover999X3
@Clover999X3 Жыл бұрын
yeah and i mean other than massive mass outbreaks there are no instances of ursaluna, sneasler, or kleavor in the wild. So evidently the clans were the ones evolving them, so when the clans went extinct, the evolutions did too.
@hangsthemighty912
@hangsthemighty912 Жыл бұрын
There are several Pokémon who need an object to evolve and if you have played any of the Pokémon Dungeon games, you can see how smart and able Pokémon are and the things that they use on themselves in order to even survive. (Like they have their own special items for health, culture, currency and carry such things as revival seeds) So I would say if an Ursaring wanted to evolve to Ursaluna, they could do so if they desired to do that, like a Pokémon can also decide not to evolve at all (I mean Pokémon on the wild btw.). If you want Pokémon to do battle they would have to be smart enough to know what you are telling them. Shoot I wouldn't go this route but on the anime Team Rocket's Meowth has a whole personality. And any Movie that focuses on the Pokémon only also shows the complicated lives they lead and how capable they are. And I highly doubt the Clans were evolving the Pokémon, seeing how both were very against taking the will away from Pokémon, they let Pokémon choose if they wanted to be a companion or not. And we're even offended by the player at first.
@fiusionmaster3241
@fiusionmaster3241 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@LoganWH8
@LoganWH8 Жыл бұрын
@@hangsthemighty912 1, the pokemon in the mystery dungeon world are not the same as the ones in the world of the main line games. If they were as intelligent as the ones that have a full society, they wouldn’t be taking orders from humans or living like animals in the wild. 2, I didn’t say they weren’t capable of it if they wanted to, I said that, in the wild, there’s no real reason they *would* want to, again, as evidenced by the fact that you don’t encounter any Ursaluna in the wild while Ursaring are plentiful. 3, while yes, pokemon do have individual personalities, ones like Team Rocket’s Meowth or Sir Aaron’s Lucario that posses human level intelligence are very few and very far between And 4, Palina, a fellow Pearl Clan warden, tells the player that the clan at large is critical of her because she *wasn’t* forcing the Growlithe descended from the hero’s Arcanine to train harder, evolve, and become the Lord Pokemon, so there’s no reason to assume they wouldn’t be the same way about making sure the descendant of the hero’s Ursaluna also became an Ursaluna.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Жыл бұрын
Also the Gen 4 games don’t show the sky
@jacksonbrown1830
@jacksonbrown1830 Жыл бұрын
The wyrdeer thing reminds me of neoteny. Neoteny is a phenomena where animals evolve to stay in their larval form. It's the reason why axolotl exist, and the best explanation for how vertebrates evolved from hemichordates
@Tokuijin
@Tokuijin Жыл бұрын
Actually, "neoteny" is where something retains juvenile traits in adulthood. Axolotls are a weird case because they have neoteny without having that selectively bred into them.
@jacksonbrown1830
@jacksonbrown1830 Жыл бұрын
True, my description was poor
@ArgoVaughn
@ArgoVaughn Жыл бұрын
I viewed Voltorb’s change was due to industrialization. Going from a moral rural environment to cities. Drawn to cities due to the transition from steam power to electric power. Thus their themeing evolved from wood to metal.
@Lyallart
@Lyallart Жыл бұрын
I read the title and just subconsciously said “yay” I knew catching every single growlithe I could and shoving them into a box all their own would do something
@benito23453
@benito23453 Жыл бұрын
MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео🇷🇺):.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/m37Zi4OMasaWrdk
@itsdarkhere
@itsdarkhere Жыл бұрын
Classic Shiny hunter moment
@mythiclys
@mythiclys Жыл бұрын
So many bots--
@gabriel4lyfeanimations497
@gabriel4lyfeanimations497 Жыл бұрын
@Adli Susanti sus
@mintymango3717
@mintymango3717 Жыл бұрын
Nice 😂
@Lichdemonz
@Lichdemonz Жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair, the player doesn't exactly have a choice, Mat... they're given an ultimatum by the leaders of the Galaxy expedition - either help them collect pokemon and be given a home and food, or left to die in the wilderness. Cyrus' ancestor says so herself. The fact that they're from the future and have knowledge that they don't is just an advantage. XD
@Bluberyline827
@Bluberyline827 Жыл бұрын
basically like gen 4 galaxy team is evil
@Lichdemonz
@Lichdemonz Жыл бұрын
@Josh the Joshey Boii sus
@thunderborn3231
@thunderborn3231 Жыл бұрын
also, hes straight up wrong about the future knowledge. you the player have that knowledge, the character doesn't, even at the start they point out you dont remember anything about where you come from
@Lichdemonz
@Lichdemonz Жыл бұрын
@@thunderborn3231 oh yeah, i forgot about that bit XD
@cosmicsilhouette3858
@cosmicsilhouette3858 Жыл бұрын
​@@thunderborn3231 That might be true, but it's more of an instinct than a memory. You're instinctively aware that pokemon are helpful, and some are even docile. So a loss of memory wouldn't affect it since it's hard-wired from when you were in the future.
@maidofbreath00
@maidofbreath00 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a really smart tactic to introduce new pokemon and explain why they're not there in the future, give them all reasons to go extinct. Very interesting!
@space_man5789
@space_man5789 Жыл бұрын
"Scyther no longer be able to evolve" scizor: am I a joke to you
@myaluca382
@myaluca382 Жыл бұрын
matpat is always like "im ruining your childhood!" but never is he like "i am your childhood."
@benito23453
@benito23453 Жыл бұрын
MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео🇷🇺):.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/m37Zi4OMasaWrdk
@destiny6080
@destiny6080 Жыл бұрын
I'm the first human to reply here, thank me later
@frostyvoid827
@frostyvoid827 Жыл бұрын
Why are there so many bots here?
@itsdarkhere
@itsdarkhere Жыл бұрын
So he's ruining himself?
@-UsaNee-
@-UsaNee- Жыл бұрын
Only 3 or 4 counting me humans here lmao
@kingleonidas2182
@kingleonidas2182 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for Scarlet/Violet to completely steamroll this and bring those ancient Pokémon back for fun.
@pineappleudh6561
@pineappleudh6561 Жыл бұрын
Atleast the games theme being past and future it'll make sense.
@noinfo1018
@noinfo1018 Жыл бұрын
We already will get hisuian zoroa and zoroark
@amarith1392
@amarith1392 Жыл бұрын
To be fair we've been able to bring back extinct pokemon since Gen 1. Just look at Omanyte, Omistar, Kabuto, Kabutops, and Aerodactyl.
@HPMunshcraft
@HPMunshcraft Жыл бұрын
I think the Pokemon are already confirmed that they will come back in the two new games xD
@justatanuki.6495
@justatanuki.6495 Жыл бұрын
Well, they didn’t, the hisuian are going to be accessible from Pokemon home
@meghancraft77
@meghancraft77 Жыл бұрын
All of this kind of makes sense, with it paraelling our real life. My area is very mountainous, so we had cougars and mountain cats running around. We changed so much of the landscape that we no longer have any cougars and mountain cats running around.
@One_Weird0
@One_Weird0 Жыл бұрын
I swear nobody knows about the Wii’s PokePark, that game was my CHILDHOOD and I still often replay it, this isn’t about the video but I figured while we’re on the topic of Pokémon-
@spiderglitch22
@spiderglitch22 Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I just rediscovered that game a few days ago due to (I think?) a reddit post. Been considering seeing if wii emulators for PC were a thing, so I could mess with it again
@nazunnii
@nazunnii Жыл бұрын
pokepark was my childhood. boyfriend recently gave me his copies of the original and the sequel to play on my wii u :)
@lauchlinyurchuk1301
@lauchlinyurchuk1301 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the starter's evolutions in this game (IE Decidueye, Typhlosion and Samurott) were Pokemon that Professor Laventon admits he bought here from another region, IE they're not native, they only have hisuian forms because it is mentioned that something effected their final evolutions from what they were supposed to be
@kuroshikamionaji
@kuroshikamionaji Жыл бұрын
For Decidueye specifically, his nature cloak is based on the Deciduous Forest, which changes with the seasons, it's likely Hisuian Decidueye is just a form taken when evolving in the colder climate
@peytongrabau5343
@peytongrabau5343 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know, I personally think that the voltorbs and electodes evolved not from being hunted, but for camouflage. As the trees were harvested, they began to lose more and more places to hide, they evolved to look more like the thing the trees were used for, the pokeballs. To me, it really wouldn’t make much sense for them to evolve with pokeballs if they were being hunted because they looked the same. That is why it would make more sense for them to evolve with the pokeballs so that they could camouflage with them (which we have seen them do in the anime)
@heisenbergcollins8153
@heisenbergcollins8153 Жыл бұрын
@Redstones Lover wow
@shrekecomment8056
@shrekecomment8056 Жыл бұрын
@Redstones Lover gollum
@reneablackheart9563
@reneablackheart9563 Жыл бұрын
And in the games too, I remember being ambushed by them in firered
@reneablackheart9563
@reneablackheart9563 Жыл бұрын
@kevinzen your bad
@RGC_animation
@RGC_animation Жыл бұрын
Considering how most of Sinnoh are forest, I don't think they ran out of trees.
@flanuffal
@flanuffal Жыл бұрын
0:24 Missed opportunity to say connect a few seedots
@Iduno69
@Iduno69 Жыл бұрын
We literally have machine’s that can bring back fossils in Pokémon
@netatsake
@netatsake Жыл бұрын
That requires there to be a fossil. As far as I know, there's no recorded fossils of any of these pokemon, and that could be easily believed given that many of these pokemon (the evolutions at least) don't exist in the wild outside of select exceptions, such as the Ursaluna and Kleavor boss fights. In the entire game there is only one wild Wyrdeer, and it's unlikely that a fossil would have been made from it since many of the methods of rapid fossilization aren't present in its natural habitat. For a fossil to be present of many of them, it would have to have been because of the actions of the player - intentionally killing them in ways that would result in rapid fossilization, such as dropping them into a volcano or flash-freezing them in the tundra somewhere that would only ever be found by the player. Hisuian Growlithe might have fossils, but it seems unlikely with how Growlithe are typically highly resistant to heat. Some of them are also highly unlikely to be capable of being fossilized, such as Hisuian Lilligant. There are several that aren't mentioned in this video though, such as Hisuian Sneasel/Sneasler, Hisuian Lilligant, the Hisuian Starters (which aside from the three in town show up nowhere in the wild and only through Distortion Events, caused by Giratina) and a couple others I can't think of off the top of my head. However, with the returning presence of Giratina, and our ability to catch and possibly control it in BD/SP, it's very possible that it could be used to create controlled distortions for the sake of hunting down and potentially breeding some of those Pokemon. After all, the distortions specialize in pulling Pokemon from many different places and times. Case in point - Shieldon and Rampardos couldn't exist in Arceus without Giratina's distortions, and they don't exist in BD/SP without fossil regeneration.
@Logiebear2310
@Logiebear2310 Жыл бұрын
@@netatsake he made a small comment and you responded with an essay 😂
@netatsake
@netatsake Жыл бұрын
@@Logiebear2310 In true GameTheory fashion, baby.
@DarkPsychoMessiah
@DarkPsychoMessiah Жыл бұрын
They' machines are imperfect, almost all of them come back as half Rock type
@AmaneKoruba
@AmaneKoruba Жыл бұрын
I think the one issue you have is with Hisuian Forms. Because they didn’t “die” out, they evolved into the new current forms today. Like liligant’s are still alive, just no longer fighting type.
@randompheidoleminor3011
@randompheidoleminor3011 Жыл бұрын
Those two terms arent mutually exclusive though - the domestic dog only evolved from a fraction of their ancestral wolf species, so you couldn't say that the species as a whole evolved into dogs. Just because a species arises from another doesn't mean the 'parent' species goes extinct either - domestic chickens account for the majority of birds on the planet but the junglefowl species their ancestors hail from still exist in the jungles of Southeast Asia.
@garretdrake2347
@garretdrake2347 Жыл бұрын
but the modern liligant cannot be found in sinnoh
@Noxamu
@Noxamu Жыл бұрын
Same for Zoroark but for them its because they no longer really hate humans, this pokemons is litteraly a dark sasuke alive but now they are cooler
@Snowstorm...
@Snowstorm... Жыл бұрын
But the Lilligants were native to Hisui but not in Sinnoh. Plus, we're talking evolution via natural selection. While the species as a whole didn't die out, the Hisuian varients most likely did die and the survivors were just those with more beneficial traits
@krankenwagen855
@krankenwagen855 Жыл бұрын
Dinosaurs are extinct, right? So… why chicken
@sunnysideup4687
@sunnysideup4687 Жыл бұрын
It makes more sense for Voltorb/Electrode to be evolving for mimicry with their generation's respective pokeball
@MegaHuntress
@MegaHuntress Жыл бұрын
It does make you wonder why the original Voltorbs became a Pokeball before they were popular tho...
@klop4228
@klop4228 Жыл бұрын
@@MegaHuntress Well, they were mimicking Apricorns, and then when Pokéballs became really popular they changed to mimicking that.
@MegaHuntress
@MegaHuntress Жыл бұрын
@@klop4228 I know that. But WHY mimic Apricorns BEFORE they started being used as pokeballs?
@spookycreachre
@spookycreachre Жыл бұрын
@@MegaHuntress Probably to avoid being eaten by flesh-hungry predators, like a stick bug? Look like something other than your predator's food source and they won't bother you. Anything that thinks it's an apricorn will be caught off-guard and more easily fought off, if they even have any interest in eating the voltorb after it discovers it's an animal and not a nut.
@FuryMcpurey
@FuryMcpurey Жыл бұрын
@@spookycreachre Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement Жыл бұрын
The protgonists' pupils constricting to make them look insane is genuinely freaky-
@AnnaBelleEevee
@AnnaBelleEevee Жыл бұрын
Another theory for some pokemon like Wyrdeer, since the way we battle changed the secret to their evolution was lost since we don't use strong and agile styles anymore. This could also work in tandem to the game theory.
@GunlessSnake
@GunlessSnake Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you specified Pokémon being used for competitive sport. It's not animal pit fighting, because the Pokémon want to fight. They want to fight to better themselves, like martial artists. These battles are basically instinctual martial arts tournaments.
@renzojeripalomino4885
@renzojeripalomino4885 Жыл бұрын
Now that is something I didn’t think about
@devilsadvocate1380
@devilsadvocate1380 Жыл бұрын
@@renzojeripalomino4885 heck, if you look at the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon it seems that this drive for self improvement remains, even in a [almost?] Humanless world.
@heaven4772
@heaven4772 Жыл бұрын
@@devilsadvocate1380 even in the anime (indigo league) there’s a trainer with a Pokémon that just left him after losing all their badges to team rocket, and meowth says that the said Pokémon wanted to get stronger and have a chance at being a Pokémon master and quit after all that hard work was wasted due to all their badges being stolen Speaking of badges does anyone even know where to get a rock badge after Brock left?
@user-xd7lq8sq4m
@user-xd7lq8sq4m Жыл бұрын
@@heaven4772 his dad
@deadersurvival4716
@deadersurvival4716 Жыл бұрын
No, SOME of them want to fight. And that still doesn't work, because in animal pit fighting, animals are actively wound up or baiting into committing to the fight. So it can be pit fighting even WITH the pokemon's desire to fight.
@FrostedMike
@FrostedMike Жыл бұрын
Decidueye, Samurott and Typhlosion are different. They got a new form because they are not native to Hisui to begin with, Decidueye's natural habitat is a tropical island for example. They evolved to adapt the new environment. Even worse: they are now an invasive species to Hisui and it messes up the eco system.
@adil0028
@adil0028 Жыл бұрын
@Josh the Joshey Boii no it's not
@Clover999X3
@Clover999X3 Жыл бұрын
well its debatable as while this does work explaining why there is no hisuian samurott or decidueye. You could transfer a cyndaquil into the original diamond and peal games and evolve it to a normal typhlosian. The starter you get is brought from another reigon so it isnt our definition of evolution causing this. Its much more likely that in ancient hisui there is some sort of energy causing them to change forms. Possibly the spacetime rift.
@joshpiderman9240
@joshpiderman9240 Жыл бұрын
@@Clover999X3 which may explain avalugg
@pdelta
@pdelta Жыл бұрын
You realize that this game was in the past, right? These Pokemon are native to Hisui. That's the first place they ever lived.
@dreamcream3738
@dreamcream3738 10 ай бұрын
​@@Clover999X3 evolution is a misnomer, as it's more of a metamorphosis
@ExplosiveT-5
@ExplosiveT-5 Жыл бұрын
For Voltorb and Electrode, doesn't it make more sense that the Apricorns were overharvested so humans started making pokeballs out of different materials and the Voltorbs and Electrodes just evolved (Not Pokemon Evolve) to resemble the more modern pokeballs?
@sh.7630
@sh.7630 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Since Apricorns were the primary object used to start the production of Pokeballs it is reasonable that humans wanted to find a similar material that could possibly fill the absence of Apricorns once it was overharvested. And since Voltorbs and Electrodes were a living resemblance of the wood once used to make Pokeballs, they probably thought it was the material with most similarities and just decided to use it as a replacement.
@enchantmate
@enchantmate Жыл бұрын
With the voltorbs in a previous video it was mentioned that they may be disguising themselves as pokeballs to hunt humans or something similar and they may have evolved to look like current pokeballs to continue this. I think the video was called Pokémon are hunting us or something along those lines and it was from game theory
@ItzWaterWheelz
@ItzWaterWheelz Жыл бұрын
A decent few of the pokemon still have a chance of coming back, like missing items or forgotten moves, so imagine if gen 10 would get the player to slowly help the extinct pokmon to go back, such as finding enough scrap or a full piece of ore to help scyther evolve. Of course some of them are fine with where they are like voltorb but I think it would be a neat idea nonetheless!
@shrekecomment8056
@shrekecomment8056 Жыл бұрын
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@dabeanking129
@dabeanking129 Жыл бұрын
We already have done that remember the fossil Pokémon they were extinct until we brought them back so tbh your right we have a way to do it already so why not
@blo0dysmiles297
@blo0dysmiles297 Жыл бұрын
Being we see alot of these pokemon in S&V in the wild there not extinct. Mat is just ignoring facts because he wanted to make a pokemon video to jump on the pokemon train like he said at the start of the video
@ramonandrajo6348
@ramonandrajo6348 Жыл бұрын
@@blo0dysmiles297 Whatever, dude. XD
@Temperans
@Temperans Жыл бұрын
@@blo0dysmiles297 or maybe, and this is just maybe, those games already did all the work of fixing that. Specially for the pokemon who are not evolving due to forgetting a move or lacking the right item. That is not even considering that an animal/pokemon might be extint in one region but not in the other. As seen with how each region has a completely different list of pokemon.
@Axecon1
@Axecon1 Жыл бұрын
Minor complaint here - Rowlett (and by extension its evolved forms) are native to Alola so Hisuian Decidueye is probably an example of speciation rather than extinction. It likely evolved into its grass/fighting form as a result of the environmental pressures of Hisui and is the first instance of its kind. You could probably say the same for Hisuian Samurott and various of the other regional forms discussed in this game, although the extinction argument does apply to the majority of species in this video. Typhlosion is a weird case, and it's possible Hisui was the the original form of the Pokemon because ties to Spiritomb before it naturally migrated to the connecting Johto region where it multiplied and became the dominant form (Bird Keeper Toby has a great theory on this).
@user-ms6ff8py5v
@user-ms6ff8py5v Жыл бұрын
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@shrekecomment8056
@shrekecomment8056 Жыл бұрын
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@Darknova67
@Darknova67 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was going to comment that I'm pretty sure The starters were specifically brought there from other regions and eventually when the civilization grew they didn't need to bring Pokemon from their home land to fight against the Pokemon as it was their home now and they tamed Turtwig, Chimchar and Piplup instead
@omnizoom
@omnizoom Жыл бұрын
I think oshawott and Rowlett being native is still possible , the starters are just rare Pokémon usually and their home region is just where they were first recorded , I.e charmanders are native to galar but since oak did the whole Pokédex thing with actual proper numbers as a “national” dex
@Tokuijin
@Tokuijin Жыл бұрын
Actually, their presence in this game and region could imply that they were initially native to Hisui but got introduced to Alola (there are a lot of Pokemon that AREN'T native to Alola) or Rowlet (and its evolved forms) used to exist in Hisui but were rendered extinct. Worth noting is that Rowlet and its evolved forms, looks-wise, are based off of the barn owl, which is the MOST widespread owl species there is.
@farfetchdthegamer3810
@farfetchdthegamer3810 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for Matpat to talk about the new Gen 9 paradox forms we got
@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut
@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut Жыл бұрын
Haven't played a Pokemon game since black/white 1. What are you talking about?
@damiana.9544
@damiana.9544 Жыл бұрын
​@@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut Paradox forms are basically pokemon from the future or past, being either robot-like(future) or caveman-like(past)
@Lissy_YT481
@Lissy_YT481 Жыл бұрын
​@@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut oh, boy...
@braysvideosofawesome
@braysvideosofawesome Жыл бұрын
I actually have a funny story about Pokemon. One day in 2nd grade, my art class had a substitute. She put on a Snorlax drawing tutorial, and when it was over, I remember her words exactly. She said, “Ok class, when you get home, ask your parents if this is Pokeyman. They might of watched the show growing up.”, and I still laugh about it to this day.
@JohnKWard-bu4jw
@JohnKWard-bu4jw Жыл бұрын
Remember that Liiligant was confirmed in Scarlett and Violet and Hisuian Zorua/Zoroark are in from the Japanese website so it's possible that some of these pokemon migrated to other regions
@heisenbergcollins8153
@heisenbergcollins8153 Жыл бұрын
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@shrekecomment8056
@shrekecomment8056 Жыл бұрын
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@SomeBloke420
@SomeBloke420 Жыл бұрын
There's also Pokemon Go to consider. Hisuian versions of; Voltorb, Electrode, Sneasel, Sneasler, Growlithe, Arcanine, Qwilfish, Overqwil, & Braviary, are all available in game.
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
@@SomeBloke420 Isn't the story behind that that they came from portals opening up though?
@drakenull9451
@drakenull9451 Жыл бұрын
Source?
@traurigekatze
@traurigekatze Жыл бұрын
The thing is that apricorns are still used for pokeballs though, so I would highly doubt that Sinnoh would import all of its apricorns. it's honestly more likely that it adapted to the new Pokéballs and changed its design. it's more likely that hisuian Voltorb is an ancestor then a new species
@Cameron_Maguire
@Cameron_Maguire Жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstood what he said
@robottost6385
@robottost6385 Жыл бұрын
@@Cameron_Maguire well if they ran out and hunted voltorbs, then the extinction of those voltorbs wouldn't allow any more pokeballs to be made, and as op mentioned, apricorns are still used in pokeballs in modern games, so it's really unlikely for the video to be correct on that account
@Tokuijin
@Tokuijin Жыл бұрын
It could have been a very specific species of apricorns
@traurigekatze
@traurigekatze Жыл бұрын
@@Tokuijin nope, same apricorn species as there are already stated different species in every gane with them, so if they dont even imply the pla apricorns change to modern then wheres the proof they do?
@Jsi34
@Jsi34 Жыл бұрын
I think you should do a review on the newest theory where the new female protagonist of the pokemon anime is ash daughter and see if there any science to back it up because that seems very interesting to me to see if it has any chance of being true
@NPyoshi68
@NPyoshi68 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact but the French translation for black augurite inside the game is indeed black obsidian
@krea8402
@krea8402 Жыл бұрын
Consider this too for the voltorbs: in an effort to keep the last members of the species alive, HUMANS modified them to be metal in some way - we've done things like chopping off horns to protect species before, so I can totally see a group doing that to keep them alive - and it clearly worked.
@RGC_animation
@RGC_animation Жыл бұрын
I don't want to imagine the process that went through to change Voltorb's entire anatomy to another substance.
@nighteule
@nighteule Жыл бұрын
@@RGC_animation Gene editing perhaps? We see species restored from fossils, not much of a stretch
@HackedGlitch265
@HackedGlitch265 Жыл бұрын
The item Metal coat exists later in gen 2+. It's likely that some voltorbs/electrodes were coated by it and became the "metal" pokemon we know of since gen 1?
@cheesygubbins5322
@cheesygubbins5322 Жыл бұрын
i agree but idk about chopping off horns to keep them alive... if anything we do that and end up killing them. maybe chopping off sheeps' tails so they dont get infections
@honeyslime7178
@honeyslime7178 Жыл бұрын
I have to say tho, that getting your hands on enough apricorns to get the trees to vanish from the region is almost impossible unless every person catches thousands of Pokémon. Not to mention that there are fields at wgich apricorns can be planted. Overall the whole theory is pretty farfetched in the first place and doesn't make much sense when it comes to certain points.
@noko_9796
@noko_9796 Жыл бұрын
I especially enjoy the theory outside of this that the husian sneasel was the original one, and then evolved into the form we know after being hunted by the gligar thrived in the area and can easily beat it. And sneasel became an ice type to fight back against the quad weak scoprion
@user-ms6ff8py5v
@user-ms6ff8py5v Жыл бұрын
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@heisenbergcollins8153
@heisenbergcollins8153 Жыл бұрын
@Redstones Lover yessorrr
@shrekecomment8056
@shrekecomment8056 Жыл бұрын
@Redstones Lover gollum
@christinazielinskigjftlc8545
@christinazielinskigjftlc8545 Жыл бұрын
4:44 why does this remind me of the Ford gt
@legobeylov7470
@legobeylov7470 Жыл бұрын
I mean in another entry in the games "Stantler's magnificent antlers were traded at high prices as works of art. As a result, this Pokémon was hunted close to extinction by those who were after the priceless antlers." ORAS. While yes it couldve been because of the fur I think it was more because of the horns too
@teensierkitty4214
@teensierkitty4214 Жыл бұрын
A few things feel wrong here Alternatively I think wyrdeer just didn't need the fur as temperatures rised And quilfish got weaker not because of hunting but because they weren't able to swim in the harsher currents that were being occupied by boats so they moved and assimilated with other quilfish
@pdelta
@pdelta Жыл бұрын
Mate, if Wyrdeer just didn't want fur, it wouldn't grow as much fur later on in evolution. The species wouldn't just stop existing. Also, there is no proof that other Quilfish exist.
@IkrAer
@IkrAer Жыл бұрын
@P delta 8:10 "A different form of quilfish live in other regions" it would make sense that researchers would bring those quilfish so they can study the differences
@pdelta
@pdelta Жыл бұрын
@@IkrAer And that would lead to assimilation how? If the things can't swim, they can't just move somewhere else.
@apirlfools
@apirlfools Жыл бұрын
@@pdelta it didn't stop existing as a matter of fact not one of these creatures actually seem to of died off changed isn't the same as died off many of these pokemon still exist in different forms or simply stopped evolving but haven't died off
@pdelta
@pdelta Жыл бұрын
@@apirlfools Mate, if the entire species is completely absent from every single game, then it doesn't exist anymore.
@PinkGoldBeans6197
@PinkGoldBeans6197 Жыл бұрын
Also, apricorns are found in other regions. Johto, Unova and Alola are confirmed to have been discovered before hisui because of the starters. Kanto and kalos were too for Growlithe and avalugg. if you've gone to kalos then I can't see how you miss galar. Several of these regions have apricorn trees all around the place, so it just wouldn't be efficient to hunt a pokemon that can explode without warning
@Jundas
@Jundas Жыл бұрын
Electrodes probably just changed after living in city environments for several generations. They mimic the materials around them.
@Munchkin.Of.Pern09
@Munchkin.Of.Pern09 Жыл бұрын
Professor Laventon is actually from Galar, so we know that it’s inhabited too. Honestly, given that this game is set during the Pokemon world’s equivalent of the annexation of Hokkaido, which happened in the 1860’s-1870’s, there’s no way that the colonization of Hisui wasn’t going to happen on it’s own. The player may have sped it up by completing the Pokédex, but it’s not like we were the only members of the survey corps working on the thing. It was inevitable.
@flamestorm1468
@flamestorm1468 5 ай бұрын
GT- I thought you were dead. Hisuian Pokemon in new dlc- My death was greatly exaggerated.
@unoriginalnamehere2646
@unoriginalnamehere2646 Жыл бұрын
What about typhlosion’s entry? Did it say that it’s form is caused by the soles of the region? So what happened to it?
@TeamGalactic-Cyrus
@TeamGalactic-Cyrus Жыл бұрын
Pokemon can die without trainers killing them.
@Judaiandjohan
@Judaiandjohan Жыл бұрын
I feel like in a weird way, Basculin/Basculegion are an opposite of this. They’re thriving most likely due to urbanization. Basculegion is a result of Basculin dying in massive numbers, most likely implying that the environment is not suitable for the species. Hisuian Basculin is even referenced to being more timid than it’s modern day counterpart which may be an aspect of this. Basculegion no longer exists because Basculin have found environments that are better suited to them, and they’ve become more aggressive, meaning they’re not dying off in such vast quantities
@thexp905
@thexp905 Жыл бұрын
Possibly, but unlike other regional varients in the game, Basculin isn't strictly referred to as "Hisuian" but as "white Striped" meaning it's notimpossible that just the white varient died out, or just evolved into the 2 types we know of today.
@Bugattiboy912
@Bugattiboy912 Жыл бұрын
I love how in MatPat's pokemon theories he's always so "Why did this happen?" When he knows the answer is because Game Freak needed some regional exclusives and they just wanted to use Arceus' region which is also the most popular region overall.
@user-ms6ff8py5v
@user-ms6ff8py5v Жыл бұрын
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@heisenbergcollins8153
@heisenbergcollins8153 Жыл бұрын
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@Chronicler9
@Chronicler9 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who, without ever watching MatPat, has been into Pokemon lore for nearly two decades. He has remained fascinated by how incredible the world is and loves to talk about how well it's put together. I agree that they needed exclusives, but they also have fully set this stuff up and have *been* setting up things like this in the way they expand the world's pokemon. That said, i'm not really that big on much of the lore myself, i just enjoy watching MatPat overanalyze literally anything. But my friend has been talking about and noticing stuff like this in pokemon for ages.
@shrekecomment8056
@shrekecomment8056 Жыл бұрын
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@CaptainDCap
@CaptainDCap Жыл бұрын
​@@Chronicler9 The pokémon world is about as well put together as a toddler's block tower, but I'm glad your friend has a hobby. LOL.
@ghostshadowgamingyt1256
@ghostshadowgamingyt1256 Жыл бұрын
All 25 hisuian Pokémon are going extinct Hisuian Zorua and Zoroark: I forgot where that’s my problem.
@michelleallard581
@michelleallard581 Жыл бұрын
You need to do a theory on "the witness" it's an interesting puzzle game with skatered lore told throught the environmental storytelling, exploring the open world in this almost post apocoliptic setting, solving secret puzzle that reveal new areas and hidden videos and voice recordings. It's aminous, it's beautiful and is begging for a game theory
@daniboy018
@daniboy018 Жыл бұрын
Let's talk about Kamado's reaction to the cataclysmic events in game. He throws reason and logic out the door and goes full warmonger. I think Arceus preemptively brought us back to save either us or (more likely) Pokémon from being COMPLETELY wiped out in the region. Studies show that in the last 40 years, humans have been responsible for the extinction of 60% of species. Compare that to the 10% of lost Pokémon from over 140 years. I'd say Arceus made the right call. And who knows, Wydeer and the other evos could come back in another region. Admittedly there is no hope for the species wide ones (Growlithe, Voltorb, etc.)
@AZDfox
@AZDfox Жыл бұрын
No neccesarily. I believe Hisuian Lilligant and Zoroark have been confirmed for S&V
@heisenbergcollins8153
@heisenbergcollins8153 Жыл бұрын
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@shrekecomment8056
@shrekecomment8056 Жыл бұрын
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@daniboy018
@daniboy018 Жыл бұрын
@@AZDfox Lilligant is one of the contenders I mentioned. Petilil isn't Hisuian. Zorua and Zoroark in SV is dope though.
@jisanpotato
@jisanpotato Жыл бұрын
@@daniboy018 zorua and zoroark make sense since the hisuan forms are canonically lost souls so they could still be somewhere.
@ZakanaHachihaCBC
@ZakanaHachihaCBC Жыл бұрын
Hisuian Zorua line goes extinct because they set aside their malice for humans and can go to rest. Basculegion goes extinct because humanity assisted them in not dying during migration. Snesal just slowly shifted to being the standard Jotohnian one, and so Sneasler no longer have a Pokémon to evolve from.
@legobeylov7470
@legobeylov7470 Жыл бұрын
Actually basculin has to compete with magikarp and if your evolution in universe has you taking the souls of dead relatives I don't think you can out pace magikarp only place it did was unova
@13thravenpurple94
@13thravenpurple94 Жыл бұрын
Great work 🥳 Thank you 💜
@sleepyote
@sleepyote 4 ай бұрын
I never thought the anthropology class I took would connect to a game theory.
@owencoles2798
@owencoles2798 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was evolution since they didn't need to be as aggressive 'cause we befriended them. As for the traveling Pokemon like Wyrdeer and Basuliegon we just got better equipment like cars and boats.
@LamanKnight
@LamanKnight Жыл бұрын
Ah, sort of like the domestication of... well, a lot of real-world animals. Most dog breeds didn't need to be as big or as strong as wolves, because humans took care of them. Livestock pigs became much gentler than their wild counterparts, because we bred them to be that way. And cattle as we know them, only exist as a species because of human intervention. So, that would also make sense; besides driving things to extinction, humans also drive animals into unusual evolutionary paths.
@ch3ater13
@ch3ater13 Жыл бұрын
evolution isn't based on need. It's a completely RANDOM process....
@owencoles2798
@owencoles2798 Жыл бұрын
@@LamanKnight Yes that's what I'm thinking
@cookiegonza4189
@cookiegonza4189 Жыл бұрын
@@ch3ater13 Lmao it totally is not, evolution is based on need, if a species doesn’t evolve to survive in its habitat it will go extinct therefore species evolve by passing the genes of the members of said species that survived their habitat
@mitchellregalado2917
@mitchellregalado2917 Жыл бұрын
@@ch3ater13 i mean yes but alot of evolution has stemmed from environmental impact and survival so can't just exclude that by saying its all random.
@HollowKnightFan.
@HollowKnightFan. Жыл бұрын
I can just imagine this conversation Matpat: “you killed these Pokémon” Devs: “No we just wanted to add Pokémon” Matpat: “but Murde-“ Devs: “NO”
@IndigoMoonbound
@IndigoMoonbound 6 ай бұрын
Well, Scarlet and Violet kinda throws a bit of this out with Hisuian Growlithe showing up in the DLC (although they could’ve been bred back into existence)
@somethingbanter
@somethingbanter Жыл бұрын
The multiverse is a well-established concept within Pokémon to the point that different universes even have different Pokémon not native to other ones. It could just be that all of these Pokémon exclusive to this game very much are available in the future of that region it's just we did not get to see that version when we first played diamond pearl and platinum.
@landasarus5745
@landasarus5745 Жыл бұрын
Matpat I'm a big fan and I love what you're doing, thanks for killing my childhood. :)
@bumblebeegamerreal
@bumblebeegamerreal Жыл бұрын
The bots won't stop coming. Thanks for not only ruining my childhood, but also ruining the purpose of comment sections
@Blank-cy3bw
@Blank-cy3bw Жыл бұрын
@@bumblebeegamerreal i still don't understand what the creators of these bot are trying to achieve
@BeachioSandschannel
@BeachioSandschannel Жыл бұрын
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@bramvanharen689
@bramvanharen689 Жыл бұрын
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@bramvanharen689
@bramvanharen689 Жыл бұрын
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@randompersonm8011
@randompersonm8011 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a thing about Basculin and Basculegion I noted a while back: Basculin is a Pokémon we seen from Unova, from across the ocean if we were to locate it like we do with the other Pokémon regions and their real world counterparts. Pokémon from Unova evolve in higher levels than other regions except for Basculin. This might be that the Hisui region was very hostile to the Basculin species, but still managing to adapt and overcome, while the Unovan Basculin, not needing to worry about the hospitality of the nature of its surroundings, not needing to adapt and evolve like the Hisuian counterpart, which you can interpret that as Unova being very much more calmer than the waters of Hisui as less Basculin die in Unova than they do in Hisui (because Basculegion is Water/Ghost type and also it apparently carries the souls of their fallen species with them… yeah, pretty dark). It could also explain why there isn’t any Basculin to be found in Sinnoh, since the waters could’ve been too rough for stable growth and adaptability, or human expansion pushed them out (or eaten, but then again that might bring a Basculegion problem with that).
@jamessmithson-br7rm
@jamessmithson-br7rm 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think you are wrong per se, but you are likely not right on the application. It’s not so much Stantler being “bullied” into not using the special move mentioned, but only the ones that couldn’t use it survived. The ones that could use the move and evolved were hunted. Only the individuals who could not use the move, who would not previously have passed along their genes because it was a disadvantage, were now the only ones passing along their genes because it had become an advantage. Same with the Voltorbs they clearly evolved to look a certain way, either to hide or ambush prey. When there were no more apricorn’s or apricorn based pokeballs they essentially lost that environment they were adapted to fit into - so only those that looked a certain way (i.e. like modern pokeballs) survived.
@matthewshanks3675
@matthewshanks3675 Жыл бұрын
My theory was that Voltorb evolves based off the pokeball and pre vision are more wood based and the later versions are metal so that why he changes. Same with Scyther he used to evolve into a rock but as steel became more popular he evolves into a steel type
@CeaselessEntertainment8468
@CeaselessEntertainment8468 Жыл бұрын
this is actually interesting to me more than it is sad because it parallels how humans caused extinctions irl like with the dodo birds.
@benito23453
@benito23453 Жыл бұрын
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@h13n12
@h13n12 Жыл бұрын
damn, a comment thread filled with bots, bad luck my guy
@imreallybadatnamingthings
@imreallybadatnamingthings Жыл бұрын
Contrary to popular belief, dodo birds weren't hunted to extinction, as they taste bad. What _did_ kill them was the animals humans brought with them.
@REDRUM-hk3oh
@REDRUM-hk3oh Жыл бұрын
@@imreallybadatnamingthings so we technically did cause their extinction 💀
@imreallybadatnamingthings
@imreallybadatnamingthings Жыл бұрын
@@REDRUM-hk3oh Yes, we still did. But it was indirect.
@jackskipper4839
@jackskipper4839 Жыл бұрын
Quick note: Hisui forms have been confirmed to appear in the newest installments Pokémon Scarlet & Violet, so perhaps Game Freak is going to do a complete overhaul and suddenly bring some of these lost evolutions back and pretend that they never left OR it has to do with the next games on going theme of Past and Future.
@Bandit_Spark
@Bandit_Spark Жыл бұрын
Professor Sada is a fan of Jurassic Park and brings them back from extinction?
@StarlyCactus
@StarlyCactus Жыл бұрын
You will most likely just be able to transfer them to PLA like you can transfer Alola forms to Galar, I don't think they're in the wild or something
@CyniSchism96
@CyniSchism96 Жыл бұрын
Reminder that the pokemon universe has instant revival of fossils. Its possible that these forms are revived.
@andrewmcgoblin4016
@andrewmcgoblin4016 Жыл бұрын
Pokemon Arceus Legend’s Hisui is not a past region but a future region that regress to past ways of life
@isauldron4337
@isauldron4337 Жыл бұрын
Dex cut
@KatieePandaa
@KatieePandaa Жыл бұрын
Anytime I say “thats just my theory” I add “A GAAAME THEORY” and I love the bags and accessories wheN ARE YOU RELEASING THEM IN PASTEL PINK?! THEY NEED TO MATCH MY ROLLERSKATES >:(
@adanramos9065
@adanramos9065 Жыл бұрын
Hey MatPat have you seen the 01s in NASCAR Heat 5 and love your vids
@designerwookiee
@designerwookiee Жыл бұрын
Here's a theory, the humans in the poke-verse were mass isekaied to the Pokemon world by Arceus, which is why the earliest humans seem unfamiliar with Pokemon in such a way that it's as if they or the Pokemon came from a different world, and why there's need for constant, ongoing research into these seemingly supernaturally powerful entities by humans, for the sake of survival.
@thetestinggrounds7855
@thetestinggrounds7855 Жыл бұрын
@@SSJacksWolf Don't you be talking smack about my beloved fossil pokemon.
@bentleysampolio4084
@bentleysampolio4084 Жыл бұрын
this could mean more ancestrial pkmn games lol
@deadlydingus1138
@deadlydingus1138 Жыл бұрын
Just like Australia.
@fatorc4228
@fatorc4228 Жыл бұрын
This is pretty much my head canon as well for how humans came to the pokemon world.
@Judaiandjohan
@Judaiandjohan Жыл бұрын
Okay but I have a theory for one of my favorite Pokémon that I’ve been wanting to explain. I think Braviary’s hisuian form vanished because of migration and competition. Wherever Rufflet and Braviary are found, you’re almost guaranteed to find Vullaby and Mandibuzz, both Dark types. Obviously the psychic type Braviary would be at a massive disadvantage here, as it wouldn’t be able to defend itself. But because Rufflet didn’t get the psychic type until evolution, it’s likely those that relied more on they’re physical abilities thrived in the environment, and as such the psychic type started to be bred out of the species entirely, until all that remained were Normal/Flying Braviary
@marioli2463
@marioli2463 Жыл бұрын
i would have thought the influx of johto sneasel and weavile would have doomed them give dark ice
@Judaiandjohan
@Judaiandjohan Жыл бұрын
@@marioli2463 The two don’t really have enough crossover for me to think they might be related , but maybe Johto Sneasel was the stressor that forced Braviary from their snowy territories, making them find other suitable hunting grounds
@Yoshisreign
@Yoshisreign Жыл бұрын
Hey Matt. Could you do a video for the lore of Super Paper Mario? Explicitly on the end boss Shadoo? I played this again resonantly and have read into the lore a bit. Love your videos and hope you will take this into account.
@KanadasKid
@KanadasKid Жыл бұрын
neat observation, but also like this video could've been the length of the ad and it would've been totally comprehensive
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache Жыл бұрын
You gotta admit, MatPat provides sound reasoning for this theory and relates it to real world issues with how humans affect the environment significantly. I feel like this is what the creators of Pokemon were hinting at since the very beginning. Plausible theory to say the least.
@Gamefluent_
@Gamefluent_ Жыл бұрын
So I'm not a bot. How did u get verified, have 3.7 million views on ur only vid which looks like it's from Fist of the North Star, and 370k+ subs. Just by comments
@nocte8807
@nocte8807 Жыл бұрын
Question: have we considered there being secret meet up areas for pokemon like the bulbasaur episode in the original series? I feel like there has to be places like that holding pokemon still that viewers/players havent found yet. So, do I think some of these pokemon are entirely extinct in these areas? Maybe but there is a possibility they might not be and will be discovered in later episodes/games possibly.
@SpaceDetectiveTravis
@SpaceDetectiveTravis Жыл бұрын
Like the hidden grottos from Gen 5 but bigger in more secretive areas?
@onyx2787
@onyx2787 Жыл бұрын
Like a Pokemon lost world
@mattwalker5689
@mattwalker5689 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceDetectiveTravis Or the BDSP grand underground
@TheSilverwing999
@TheSilverwing999 Жыл бұрын
True, there's tons of areas like this in the show. Places where only pokemon live
@MuttonTheDragon
@MuttonTheDragon Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the Pokémon that went extinct had it coming. They were involved in banishing Zorua and Zoroark to the cold, condemning them to become ghost types. Arceus, furious at their sins, brought a human to bring them to extinction, allowing the Zorua and Zoroark that died to rest in peace.
@Magimasterkarp
@Magimasterkarp Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was humans that banished Zoroark and Zorua.
@destinyshand2049
@destinyshand2049 Жыл бұрын
i would love to see you do a theory or two on Digimon Survive, it has three things you love, child murder, cultural references, and lots and lots of lore
@Bird_in_a_Trenchcoat
@Bird_in_a_Trenchcoat Жыл бұрын
Scyther usually evolves into scisor using a metal coat. They probably stopped evolving into kleavor because steel is just a much more durable material than stone which I guess would still be caused by humans but whatever
@Olevyosa
@Olevyosa Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you do a Stardew valley episode. There’s a lot of theories and stuff online. I started playing a few months ago and there’s definitely deeper lore and mysteries under the surface level of the game. Also I’ve been watching for like ten years and you guys are the best:) thank you for all you do
@happytry7587
@happytry7587 Жыл бұрын
Stardew is a really nice game with dark secrets
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid all there is to uncover has been uncovered.
@happytry7587
@happytry7587 Жыл бұрын
@@cheesecakelasagna no it hasn’t I saw a a something black when I was going to bus stop in my farm 😭😭
@unironicpanda
@unironicpanda Жыл бұрын
@@happytry7587 That can be explained through in-game events
@racheeeliz
@racheeeliz Жыл бұрын
yes!!
@hollow4152
@hollow4152 Жыл бұрын
Can you make us The Confident Diamonds roleplay series timeline, from his 1st roleplay to the newest? It gets interesting...
@sunitaranjittandukar46
@sunitaranjittandukar46 7 ай бұрын
In 2023 they give you a hisuian growlithe in kitakami
@realsanmer
@realsanmer Жыл бұрын
6:32 "That's weird" No, that's Wyrdeer
@kenady5052
@kenady5052 Жыл бұрын
Easier solution: somehow they migrated, this can be easily backed up by the confirmed appearance of hisuian zorua in the paldea region, however the arcanines are the more modern version so take it as you will
@sarthakarora3212
@sarthakarora3212 Жыл бұрын
hisuian zorua are migrated from unova. Unovan zroua couldn't survive in hisui and their ghosts came back for vengeance, hence it's a ghost normal type. (ghost coming back for vengence is the most common reason for them to appear.)
@StarlyCactus
@StarlyCactus Жыл бұрын
Hisuian Zoroark will appear in SV but that's just because it's most likely transferrable from PLA, not available in the wild or something.
@mokaplays4647
@mokaplays4647 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos MatPat but 2 merch mentions in a 16mins video 😮‍💨
@ChronoShadow69
@ChronoShadow69 Жыл бұрын
Man, I during the lead-up to the merch shill, he was talking about carrying an adventure's worth of gear, I was briefly expecting him to have gone into doing the tech-friendly vests I've come to love. Seriously, Team Theorist, look into Scottyvest style wearables for your next design ideas!
@lookslikejambles5687
@lookslikejambles5687 Жыл бұрын
May I also direct you to Absol's entry in Emerald, stating that poachers have hunted it to near extinction, so having one in hoenn is a luxurious thing.
@benito23453
@benito23453 Жыл бұрын
MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео🇷🇺):.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m37Zi4OMasaWrdk
@BroomieHERE
@BroomieHERE Жыл бұрын
wtf is this a reply section
@cactchris
@cactchris Жыл бұрын
3:52 I was half expecting him to transition into a sponsor or merch
@mooncloud3802
@mooncloud3802 Жыл бұрын
Alright, not about Pokemon but.. There's a game that I want you to theorize (if not though it's alright) This game is called Endling. And I won't give any spoilers but I will say you are a mother fox. Now, it's seems.. Simple. But I think there might be some deeper lore hidden under all the garbage the humans throw around EVERYWHERE Also, if you either play or watch it, warning, the ending is very very sad. (Also it's on Nintendo Switch and PS4 I believe) I love the game, and I would really enjoy a theory episode on it! Btw, you and your channels amazing, keep it up!
@juciymiddle3102
@juciymiddle3102 9 ай бұрын
The amount of times matpat said arKeus made me go insane
@haxrex8
@haxrex8 Жыл бұрын
8:14 sorry to break it to you, but all the areas are a special type of land, not the Cobalt Coastline, the Cobalt Coastlands. The Obsidian Fieldlands The Crimson Mirelands The Cobalt Coastlands The Coronet Highlands The Alabaster Icelands
@benito23453
@benito23453 Жыл бұрын
MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео🇷🇺): kzbin.info/www/bejne/m37Zi4OMasaWrdk
@crystalcarbon
@crystalcarbon Жыл бұрын
"If you had decided to not be a hero. To not save the day. The region would've remained to inhospitable for civilization to truly grow and humans would've chosen to avoid it entirely." You literally stop someone from using pokemon satan to recreate the entire universe as he deems I think that's more important
@user-ms6ff8py5v
@user-ms6ff8py5v Жыл бұрын
*POAH JUST GIVE ME RECENT HATE ALREADY!!* *MY GOAL IS BECOME THE MOST HATED KZbinR ON EARTH!* 🎥🎥👎🏽👎🏽
@MakingBuscits
@MakingBuscits Жыл бұрын
Yeah but WE helped Volo gather the plates. Otherwise the enraged legendary would've been defeated by the other. And peace would have remained.
@angle4096
@angle4096 Жыл бұрын
@UnfaithfulEvil 🅥 The bots attack 2 NSFW boogaloo
@angle4096
@angle4096 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ms6ff8py5v The bots attack 3 Lord help me
@shrekecomment8056
@shrekecomment8056 Жыл бұрын
@@angle4096 tiki kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2LNaqKtd9qqmrM
@tateranus4365
@tateranus4365 Ай бұрын
a few corrections. 1. there is no way they could've ran out of peat, there is just SO much of it, I grew up in the Appalachian mountains where there are some of the biggest deposits of coal known to exist and I have seen how massive the mines are despite only just scratching the surface of the deposits, most mining operations in developed countries stopped because of the (compared to Africa or south America or asia) high labor costs NOT because of the mines drying up, also peat isn't fully unrenewable like coal, on top of this it is fairly easy to create in a lab on a much shorter timeframe, like how you can grow sapphires in a lab in a matter of a few weeks instead of a few million years. 2. just because the "wild" species went extinct doesn't mean the species as a whole did, many of the wild species of plants and animals humans domesticated now don't exist, its actually impressive what you can do in just a few hundred generations of selective breeding, look at the difference between a wolf and a pug, or the difference between a wild corn plant and a modern one, yeah every single bit of food you eat is genetically engineered, selective breeding is a form of genetic engineering just as gene editing is.
@Aalvye
@Aalvye 6 ай бұрын
Recently finished Arceus, this theory was awesome!
@ZamersYT
@ZamersYT Жыл бұрын
What if, by Arceus sending the player back they help expand knowledge of Pokemon so they aren't as feared and thus they are captured and cultivated instead of hunted.
@shade08538
@shade08538 Жыл бұрын
but losing their fear is *exactly* what led to them being hunted
@Celebee
@Celebee Жыл бұрын
its overall beneficial for humans to take over and expand because they can create more modern medicine, pokemon centers, etc. even if its at the cost of some species going extinct.
@ZamersYT
@ZamersYT Жыл бұрын
Besides, extinct isn't extinct in the pokeverse. We have revived plenty of fossils
@illustratedphilosophy2558
@illustratedphilosophy2558 Жыл бұрын
Its a hard sell to say these are all extinct. Theres nowhere that says that regional varients dont have the DNA of the Hisuian variants and simply dont express those traits, as far as evolutions go its the same. Basculin and stantler still exist. Evolutions arent species, they are combat inspired genetic reworks of the same individual.
@TheAtemAndrew
@TheAtemAndrew Жыл бұрын
I mean, it's not like baby pokemon and later evolution didn't 'exist' just because they weren't programmed into earlier games.
@Magimasterkarp
@Magimasterkarp Жыл бұрын
Aren't the starters in the game also not from the region? They were brought in by the professor and started to react to the strange land by adapting into different final evolutions. Typhlosion picks up on the ghostly energy from the spiritomb wisps in the area and begins channeling that.
@jasonandrews3596
@jasonandrews3596 Жыл бұрын
I think you just cracked it. It is pretty obvious now that you mentioned it. Unlike all other pokemon games like Sword and Shield, X and Y, ORAS etc, there is technically NO entirely "new" pokemon in Legends Arceus. I think it was planned by Gamefreak to make all pokemons either new forms or an additional evolutions of already familar pokemon. Regional version of pokemon are just adaptation to the climate or environment so basically when that changed they in turn transformed to the current version. And like you said regarding evolutions, they are genetic reworks not different species so when Ursaring didn't feel threatned in present Sinnoh, it didn't feel the need to evolve into Ursaluna the same goes for all the others. When regions change regional forms change and they lose evolution when they feel its not required for their survival. Natural selection at its finest.
@ashtonoak4370
@ashtonoak4370 Жыл бұрын
Then those evolutions are extint. You legit just came to that conclusion in your rant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Wanna try again
@Magimasterkarp
@Magimasterkarp Жыл бұрын
@@ashtonoak4370 But if in the future the need arises or the right circumstances are met we will definitely be able to get these forms again. Ursaluna and Kleavor for example just need an item that's rarer in the future, but if you were to find one you could still get them.
@lincolnbeckett8791
@lincolnbeckett8791 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Didn't need to spoil a massive part about the game to explain it though. And thanks for putting no spoiler warning anywhere in the video.
@vanillaandbazel6810
@vanillaandbazel6810 Жыл бұрын
Bruh.. an elephant sees its mother die to poachers. Wills itself to have smaller tusk… Ends up with smaller tusks. Now thats something
@duskknight2984
@duskknight2984 Жыл бұрын
15:02 "if you decided to not be the hero, to not save the day..." The world would have been obliterated by volo and giratina
@bleepblock2177
@bleepblock2177 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but Volo follows you throughout your entire journey, if he were to do that alone it would be a death sentence so there’s no real chance he would gather everything he needs and reform the world using giratina
@bruhtnt4258
@bruhtnt4258 Жыл бұрын
Oh no, Geratina will kill us all, whatever will we do?😒 Me: One Geratina < one Team Rocket Wobbufett.
@drcgaming4195
@drcgaming4195 Жыл бұрын
12:52 "hisui is an island, and islands are small" greenland and australia:
@F-14B
@F-14B Жыл бұрын
Greenland is actually pretty small
@Canatuga
@Canatuga 7 ай бұрын
Kitakami and BB Academy: ima end this mans whole career
@CeaselessEntertainment8468
@CeaselessEntertainment8468 7 ай бұрын
In pokemon Scarlet and Violet's new dlc there is a new version of Ursaluna known as Bloodmoon Ursaluna and it's apparently one of the last Ursaluna, if your theory of the peat blocks being used up to the point where Ursaring couldn't evolve into ursaluna anymore is correct then it's possible that the Bloodmoon Ursaluna is the final Ursaluna Period. Like compared to the fact we can find Basculegion in Kitakami the Ursaluna Beast thing is treated as a cryptid like bigfoot and likely since if has the Peat as a part of it's body it must have ran away from Hisui/Sinnoh somehow to save itself from the humans who needed to use it's Peat Block resources.
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