Gaming History: Might and Magic Heroes 7 - „Doomed to fail, but at least they tried”

[@stepanserdyuk4589]

The game was obviously made by fans who knew the series, loved it, and wanted to do better. They really took the classic Heroes, and introduced a lot of new mechanics like flanking, cover, morale effects per destroyed unit stack, etc. which really improved the gameplay without changing it too much. The racial abilities became universally useful, so you can - with a few exceptions - combine any hero with an army from either town, and the effects would work and potentially synergize (in comparison, in V any hero ability only worked with their own population). Even the "Ultimate ability" from V was turned into Grandmaster abilities for every single secondary skill, which added a LOT of variability into play. It seems like they didn't have either enough budget, or supervision, to polish the stuff they implemented into the game, and balance it out. Personally, I think creating an elaborate campaign was completely unnecessary, and could very much be skipped in favor of polishing the common mechanics and random map generator as the main priority. Also, it would be perfect to see Ice Daemons as the final eight town for the second expansion that we never got.

[@Tanu.90]

You make perfect sense bro!

[@L3monsta]

Perfect title. I wish Ubisoft cared about might and magic.

[@TheVanillatech]

I played their Duel Of Champions. Never been into digital card games before, at least since the ancient Magic The Gathering games. I loved it, amazing artwork loads of content released pretty consistently. Sure it had balance issues, and a huge number of players basically wrecked the online experience playing the same trick decks over and over and over again and simply leaving the game the instant they realized you had their number and knew how to stop their single tactic .... but Ubisoft simply abandoned it. Closed the servers one day. Didn't even give players a chance to play offline or over a network. Regretted giving them close to £100 for card packs etc .... lost ALL my faith in Ubisoft that day, and have pirated every single game from them ever since.

[@Dawwwg]

Amen to that. Look at all the forgettable and failed AAAA games they released the last year. Having a feature complete HOMM is merely change in comparison. And there is a market, Songs of Conquest sold between 0.5 and 1M copies thusfar, and that's a new IP by an Indie dev.

[@L3monsta]

@@Dawwwg in addition to that you'd think they'd invest in more games along the lines of dark messiah of might and magic. Or even do an open world game in the same vein. I'm sure there'd be demand for it with the rise of popularity in fantasy in recent years and dirth of games like the elder scrolls. Heck, the witcher 3 came out in 2015.

[@megamike15]

it's sad seeing how consistent civilization was and then looking at the train wreck that is heroes of might and magic.

[@turalmirzaliev1232]

*WAS* CIV 6 SUCKS

[@erxer1]

I've been waiting for this part for ages. Glad to see you covering it!

[@erxer1]

After watching this, I agree with pretty much everything you brought up. It's a bit like Heroes 4, there's a fantastic game hidden in there somewhere if only developers had more time and money. As it stands right now, it's a mixed bag. The fans have tried to fix some of the issues (mainly making spells do what they claim to do and fixing some balancing) but at the end of the day, the fans can't rework the whole game.

[@christopherfu2169]

The biggest crime of this game? Booting of Sanctuary. My favorite faction in 5 was Academy, so I was very disapointed when they were not in 6, but I fell in love with the asthetic of sanctuary. Then in7 I got my academy back, only too lose my second favorite faction, replacing dungeon from HOMM 5. Also, why was evrey single good unit from 6 nerved into the ground? Haven lost its glorys, one of my favorite units in that game, the radiant ones were just obsurd also the Sunknights were better and more flavorfull than those lame cavaliers in 7. Necorpolis, Sceletons were downgraded to melee, the spiders were much weaker than the ghouls, the banshees lost the ability to heal, I don't know if the Lamasus were nerfed but Vampires definetly were, losing their out of time ability to gain no flanking, if thats not the defenition of a downgrade I don't know what is, replacing an amazing ability with a useless one and the biggest crime of all, reducing the fatespinner, my favorite Level 7 Creature in 6 to a useless warmachine. The same with bastion, the orks were amazing in 6 with their always climing attack stat, I loved the panterwarriors and dreamwalkers, definetly more than those weird basiliskriders, the behemots were cool, glad to see them back after 4, and kind of replicating the panther warriors with their leap ability, but why did cyclopses lose the ability to always shot? Dungeon on the other hand is a bit more debatable I guess. I preferred the double range line up with the chakram dancers and shadow watchers over the troglodytes and trackers, I definetly preferred the Faceless compared to the Souless, but I like the medusas more than the scorpicors. The hydra was a suprise as tier 7 but welcome and the Black dragon are black dragons.

[@FilmGamerHUN]

Here is now Heroes 7.5 mod with 12 factions! With better AI and better RMG maps also better spells

[@leech8303]

HoMM5 tried to be a most advanced version of the third and archieved it,7 seems an atempt to be like the 5 and failed mostly because you can't copy an espiritual succesor of a cult classic.

[@LiveErrors]

personally i think 5 tried to unite 3 and 4 its amazing how 5 is still the best looking of the 3d games. there is so much life in that game despite its more basic mechanics. Nival really loved that project

[@CastlesKingSide]

All hail the modding community for the great mods for 3,4 and 5. Keeps the good stuff fresh after so long

[@Veellinn]

You played...ALL of HOMAM again for this video? Your dedication is admirable and suffering understated.

[@ajcurtis1988]

Why couldn't the winning formula of 3 and 5 just have been followed instead 🤷‍♂️

[@philmiller3813]

Just discovered you. Listened to the entire series. V v helpful. Love yr style.

[@GaminGHD]

Welcome aboard!

[@maximilliantimofte4797]

23:30 wat do you mean the money doesnt go to the developer anymore??? ACTUALLY SCREW UBISOFT SCREWBISOFT

[@skillaxxx]

You misspelled Ubuysoft ....

[@JustGrowingUp84]

Excellent editing in this one, guys! And cute cat. I don't have hopes for the future of the series, Ubisoft pulled an EA and kinda murdered it. But we'll see. Maybe an indie studio will make a clone that's as good as the old ones. Not very likely, but more likely than Ubisoft making that...

[@GaminGHD]

Songs of Conquest is sort of in the same style, and there'll be a show about it probably in a week.

[@FilmGamerHUN]

@@GaminGHD We do an early online tournament with SOC . Last year with Heroes 6 and expansions. SOC need more balance though now but its a beta still so but there will be Fanstratics a game from ex Heroes 3 developers in a vein of Heroes 3 with many new things as well next year. There are many unit scatches there

[@julvadas]

Great video mate!good thoughts

[@krishero6524]

I'm 40 years old and been playing Heroes since the first one came out and I enjoy them all except number 4. I must confess that I haven't played it since it came out so maybe I would enjoy it more now that I'm a adult. My favorites is still 2 and 3. 2 for the colorful art and 3 because it is just more of everything. Really good series this 👌

[@RoiTrigerman]

i'm 35 and Heroes 4 was my favourite

[@TheVanillatech]

HOMM 4 is my favourite. I played them all. HOMM 4 is the one I go back to the most, even to this day. The music, the VAST campaigns (especially with expansions), and the gameplay was interesting with your heroes actually being present on the battlefield.

[@kazielbonn]

40 too, 3 was the pinnacle for me.

[@ZAWARUD00]

@@RoiTrigerman Same here, I loved the 4, but the 3 and 5 were really good as well, just with a bit less of charm. I never tried the 6 because it seems awfully bad.

[@kayus83]

I´m 40 and 4 is my favorite because of the music and sound effects. And finally it´s a real HEROES, because heroes finally were a unit. It´s HEROES of M&M and not GODS of M&M, isn´t it?

[@AngryJ]

Great video. One day, I'll own a PC capable of running this game!

[@GaminGHD]

Honestly, try Heroes 5, you'll get most of the benefits of the Ubisoft era and fewer of the bad parts.

[@AngryJ]

@@GaminGHD I've played 5, a very good game indeed! I absolutely expect that I'll spend most of my time wishing I was playing that, or HoMM3, or 2, but I'm still curious about 7, and glad to know it isn't ALL bad.

[@redinthesky1]

I reccommend Heroes 5.5 mod. Fheroes 2 is pretty sweet if you can get it running on mobile

[@KlausWulfenbach]

Dude, make a playlist for M&M and HOM&M. I don't care if you put them in the same list or not, but make a list for them already!

[@GaminGHD]

Ok, I will.

[@KlausWulfenbach]

@@GaminGHD Thank you!

[@theultramage]

It exists now! It's somewhat chronologically and thematically out of order, and there's a duplicate entry, but it doesn't take long to figure out. It's also fun seeing all the anniversary homm2 streams on the list.

[@dustinherk8124]

the heroes online title came out before this video was made. it was a browser based thing, and started with only two factions. the haven or life and necro or death sides. there were other creatures from what would be described as other factions, but they were not playable as a regular faction dwelling. just an off chance of recruiting a small amount from a random dwelling if your faction had not had that dwelling claimed by another player in X amount of time before returning to "neutral"

[@brayansantiagobetancourt7151]

I like this game, it has many interesting things and the atmosphere is 10/10, but it has a lot of gameplay problems (bugs bugs bugs bugs) and difficulty in the campaign mode, which makes you get bored pretty fast. it feels like a title that does a lot of things right from the previous installments, but then you look at UBISOFt and you know why the game feels like it's in beta.

[@alinoctavianmoldovan1795]

Love the series, well done also I think you can convert a tow is just more difficult you have to actually demolish all the buildings. Can't check cuz I don't wish to install Ubiplay to test but yeh i think I remember well. Also would love to se a cover of the mods for this games The Heroes5.5 is a instant classic. Also 7 has a modding community with new factions etc

[@FilmGamerHUN]

Last year they had some official infos about they want to hired new artists and level designers for an AAA budgeted Might and Magic game but may be the RPG series not Heroes but sadly 1 year gone and no new info. Sadly Perhaps its in the deleted 7 Ubisoft game what i heard about in 2022-2023. SOC and Fanstratics from the H3 developers can be great!

[@FilmGamerHUN]

But you can dispel the spell of storm of arrow also you can do many ot her things with that rangers teleported to them with you units with Prime Magic etc i can tell more and more spells against it. Chain is good too with high Magic power and maxed air magic school skills!

[@Jinny-Wa]

Really cute cat, looks like mine except mine is bit bigger and has white medallion on her neck

[@TheVanillatech]

I played Ubisofts Duel Of Champions. Never been into digital card games before, at least since the ancient Magic The Gathering games. I loved it, amazing artwork loads of content released pretty consistently. Sure it had balance issues, and a huge number of players basically wrecked the online experience playing the same trick decks over and over and over again and simply leaving the game the instant they realized you had their number and knew how to stop their single tactic .... but Ubisoft simply abandoned it. Closed the servers one day. Didn't even give players a chance to play offline or over a network. Regretted giving them close to £100 for card packs etc .... lost ALL my faith in Ubisoft that day, and have pirated every single game from them ever since.

[@HoangTuan1705]

I think Storm Arrow's damage should be decrease 50-70% for balance game. And Master Air skill with aoe damage when hit group of mobs stay together should be decrease to 70%

[@terbaikk]

Whare is zaher flyings cities

[@guilhermepires4446]

2 year old vídeo, but: the vampires only look amazing because when necropolis was first announced, they were gonna reuse pretty much the whole roster from the previous game and people complained, they proceeded to make a new vampire and a new lich, IT WASN'T BECAUSED THEY CARED, IT WAS BECAUSE WE CARED.

[@David_Cerkez]

What do you say about olden eraa?? :D Edit: i have just realized that I have watched your olden era video, thats why old videos are popping up haha

[@MidnightGeek99]

There is a HOMM VII, I'm so out of touch with the HOMM series? I've tested HOMM 6 for 2 years, it was...fun, I guess :)

[@HD-wf3bp]

1,5 speed and this video is really good :)

[@Wargasmo]

Hahaha, this is literally the first time I've ever turned the speed up on KZbin.

[@YoshMaster]

7 is actually my most played after 3&2 and one of my favourite

[@alew1133]

I actually loved that one

[@zenithquasar9623]

7 just did not click with me, like at all. I really wanted to like it. I just...I mean, I even really enjoyed 6! But I cannot like it. Somethings wrong.

[@zeusapollo6504]

2,3,4 1 if you like to see the drunken mode of it. nice cat

[@maksbroone9670]

No lo intentaron en absoluto. He estado tratando de jugar el juego durante años y nunca se inicia.

[@GamingTranceSeer]

I thought the video was x.75 speed. X1.25 fixed it

[@SebastianBotas]

HolyBlackAmmoLii

[@dnaseb9214]

Heroes 7.5 saved this game. And now it i my favorite in the series by a long shot.

[@histhoryk2648]

7.5 is just a big cauldron of ideas put without a thought to the game. I wish if there was a patch that just fixes the games and brings back Inferno and Sanctuary without strange looking garbage

[@dnaseb9214]

@@histhoryk2648 What are you on about. 7.5 is the logical conclusion for this series All the new stuff looks amazing

[@FilmGamerHUN]

@@histhoryk2648 You saw perhaps the first beta visuals and look for that creatures

[@FilmGamerHUN]

Yes now with 1.32 update Heroes 7.5 have all of Heroes series towns generally! Also many new great things! 3 alternative possible units per town so 11 creature per town@@dnaseb9214 Also secret abilities for some units are great with a need of 20 or more Attack, Magic or def etc. its different per creature. Also new spells, new artifacts, new battle maps, better AI, better random maps, more creature banks, BOSSES! etc New buildings in towns and in adventure maps. Also there are creatures like now in it as Rust dragon Azure dragon power like ones for every town and for neutrals too. Better computer and units mob AI now Also you cant have easy battles on random and other fix maps now with balanced statistics of units and more many new units against. Heroes 3 is unbalanced utherly i think many many HOTA profession match after. Heroes 6 developeres talked about why its so unbalanced. Morale and luck its a lottery on either level, unbalanced factions, really not so much skills general and useful ones also at Heroes or at units compared to H4-5-6-7- and Songs of conquest. Also other bad things well in H3 was. Random spells totally, many bad units not useful, etc. Storm arrows now debuffed and many times you cant get it. Also in H3 all is the main thing was Speed and there were no Iniative then, after H4-5 all of this type of games Kings Bounty, Disciples, Heroes games have iniative and movement not just speed. And as iwas n H3 now luckily you cant spell a mass haste and everybody move many and move first now..... Morale and luck gives only half of more movement and damage not 100% there is a higher skill though for it in one of skill tree part.

[@LockandLoad79]

I mean there're no lootboxes in it, so in their mind, why should they, Ubisoft, care ? It's almost like they made VII just to make sure they can still keep the IP. Eh, eff it, I say. Let's just play Hero's Hour and Songs of Conquest instead, or Horn of The Abyss. Also, at least HoMM franchise is not as badly abused as Disciples franchise.

[@whatdupson]

Heroes 2 was the shit!!! My favorite as well

[@richardursua7332]

are the bugs fixed?

[@GaminGHD]

The studio was closed not long after the game came out, so you'll still find some of them unfixed.

[@richardursua7332]

@@GaminGHD Oh that i kinda like the game minus the bugs

[@Andrius319]

it would be almost good if it wouldn't be buggy as f.

[@hoosierflatty6435]

Go back to 2D and bring back hexes.

[@megamike15]

the series is dead at this point.

[@skillaxxx]

May I introduce: Songs of Conquest ?

[@hoosierflatty6435]

@@skillaxxx I've checked it out. It's got some fresh elements and I like the graphics but I didn't really get into it.

[@McHobotheBobo]

2D I could take or leave, but I am 100% behind you on the hexes

[@Altherot]

Your wish has been fullfilled.

[@Mario-jn5zq]

I started with heroes 3 when I was a kid and spend many many hours... I don't understand why everybody don't like heroes 6... I liked it and I still play it sometimes.

[@brattler8376]

because 6 is very simplified 5 and have questionable plot in some ways

[@FilmGamerHUN]

@@brattler8376 In some way simplified but it has many more magic schools and spells, way more unit skills and hero skills than H3 and way more logical ones when you canb make tactics way more usable skills were there and also in H7- Heroes 7.5 is now better on RMG maps, AI, 12 factions!

[@brattler8376]

​@@FilmGamerHUN how many is usefull ? heroes 5 spells branch more complicated then whole heroes 6 game

[@PeterBornAgain]

Unpopular opinion but I prefer 2 over 3 and the rest of them.

[@May04bwu]

Because people are bitter cry babies who drown in nostalgia

[@xlnt2new]

my experience as a HoMM3 veteran (25+ years) and top 10 AoW3 player for >5years when this piece of garbage came out: i buy the game and install it the second it's out, i start a multiplayer match immediately and we choose the biggest available map, i look around the heroes, choose a t1 units specialist and start with 3 + 1 + 1 groups of t1 units (yeah, over 100) 3 come with the hero, 1 stack from hero n2 and 1 stack from town - 10 turns later i rush all blocks to reach the main hero of my opponent and end the game, uninstall this shit and hate it to this day. Some Hungarian players tricked me into playing this puke several months ago ): it just proved to me how right i was years ago ): even HoMM5 - which was coded by orks is kinda better ):

[@joeyjoey5136]

You didn't even sound like awake. Don't comment on the great game under that stat.

[@redinthesky1]

Bad animations and ridiculously stupid ai. Lots of not working game mechanics.

[@eusblack]

just look at H3 how was made so loong ago with almost no good computers and resources... and look at the recent Hereoes how bad they were made, and who the heck gives so much money to a incompetent team?! for me only 2 Heroes exists: 3 and 5!

[@ebennieuwoudt9588]

I, for one, am enjoying this game. Watched s lot of homm videos lately. Spent more than a healthy amount of hours on homm2 3, and 4. Just wish people would take off their nostalgia glasses and recognise that Homm3 was as much broken as the Ubisoft titles. At least they continued the franchise, unlike ea with their bullfrog acquisition.

[@qcbelzebuth7083]

I loved heroes 7. The multiplayer game experience was a disaster. It's no surprise comming from Ubisoft, I was really disappointed.

[@illeslorand6425]

I like the game ,has the same gameplay as the3 and much better grafics .So I don’t get where is the negativity for this game ,if you make a copy of the same game it’s just boring .

[@SebastianBotas]

Mikela /)!!

[@alexandrgusev3578]

i was almost sleeping while watching this video. I am sure you can do better.

[@SebastianVik]

so youre saying i shouldnt buy it? lol

[@Esquarious]

Eh, it's on sale in steam now: complete edition w/ HoMM3 HD Bonus for $12.50. Playing it now. Tedious launcher but only ran into one minor graphic glitch and am having fun thus far.

[@kayus83]

The units in 7 aren´t Heroes-units anymore. There are many very bad choices of units, who absolutely don´t suit to their factions. Even 6 is more "heroes" than 7 besides the gate-spell and online obligation. Also, the music in 7 is the worst by far. I´m not sure, if Heroes 7 has really been made by classic heroes-players and fans. It seems, that it comes from left side politicans, who wanted to destroy everything, what was conservative and they hated classical affiliations. The game definitely is too woke for my taste.