How the RE4 Remake Deepened the Lore

[@murilofernandes7870]

I genuinely felt bad for chief mendez and the village, christ they were just living simple farmers life and raising their children until Saddler and Ramon showed up to mess everything up. When leon arroves on the village he was pratically mercy killing them

[@rockett2953]

I might be wrong, but Ramon was already there. I think he was actually a good castellan? I’m not really sure about the all the lore. But he was manipulated by Saddler who used him to release the plaga. After joining Saddlers cult is when he went pure asshole.

[@Plasmacat1]

I love Ashley's and Leon's relationship in the game, it's so well done. The scene were he comforts her and she realizes he is infected too is top notch. It also shows how he never gives up with what he says to her. She also gathers up courage within her capabilities and they both end up being a proper team in the end. 10 out of 10 game.

[@Angalos]

ikr they completely changed her from an annoying twat waffle to a good character

[@samf.s.7731]

Yeah I thought that was great too. Perhaps the best scene in the game. And Leon, dang! He just keeps going even though there's no guarantee he can actually get healed. Luis may die, or the equipment could get destroyed, but he still keeps going!

[@realcountry98gaming]

I loved re4 remake it was so well done I pre ordered it before it came out and I was amazed

[@FTBASTAR]

I still ship them both

[@Xehanort10]

Remake Ashley actually helps Leon, can defend herself a bit, is likeable and sweet and you actually want to protect and save her. Original Ashley was annoying, helpless and whiny to the point Leon was probably tempted to let Saddler have her.

[@OlgaS18292]

I also liked how Salazar was depicted as the black sheep of his family due to his "illness" whch gives more info on how the connection to the los illuminados as well as his affection toward them came to be. The unfoundet insults he throws at Leon during their fight ("demon child", "you should have died" etc.) give insight into how he was treated before the cult came along and give him more personality.

[@stopbeingignorant]

Yeah, his insults at Leon during their fight 100% felt like projection on Ramon's part.

[@TheGreatestSpy4life]

@@stopbeingignorant It was projection. There’s even a moment in the fight where Ramon calls Leon Pulgarcito which is exactly what the servant said to Ramon

[@Ge0rge_0rwell]

It's not real.

[@bhatfield1417]

Yeah but it seems like he was cruel far before that

[@Streifen1911]

Nobody likes new Salazar he's fucking boring and they removed all comedy. How is anyone supposed to take tiny George Washington as a serious villain. Capcom has ruined 2 remakes in a row. Perfect gameplay but story and characters have gone to shit

[@quantum_leviathan]

Here's a fun fact you missed in your garador section: you mentioned a caretaker has to take care of garador and eventually went mad and ran but I believe he didn't escape, if you go back and check there's a corpse hanging on the door you come out of after fighting garador ,he has the word "deserter" carved into his stomach/chest

[@notsoperfectdrummer]

People act like Ashley was terrible in the original. She’s a girl with no combat experience 😂 what do you expect her to do? Start suplexing people alongside Leon.

[@BL00DYME55]

lol I don't think people hated the character as much as the AI behind it. Nobody expected her to grab a TMP and start spraying and praying the villagers right next to Leon, but at least dont stand right in my scope when I'm trying to protect you or run straight into enemies' arms then scream LEEEOOON when you get grabbed. It just caused a lot of little frustrations like that during gameplay, and people started associating her constant screaming for help with these issues. And since half the gamers arent mature enough to articulate the exact problem they're having, everything just turns into memes, which over time evolved into "AsHLeY = BaD". The remake not only improved her AI, but actually utilized her during gameplay and made her much more helpful to Leon (useful to the player), which made gameplay with her so much more enjoyable. But in terms of story/lore both the original and the remake Ashleys are fine by me, they're just slightly different interpretations of the character, but they both play their role in the story well. The remake Ashley is more mature, so to me personally she's a bit more likeable, but they're both fine either way.

[@TheRedSully]

What’s really cool is when you first get to the village if you shoot the bell at the church you skip the entire fight

[@residentkrockhead]

It’s worth noting this is not possible on NG, as the game is harcoded to not allow a handgun/shotgun to ring the bell. Therefore one can only do it in ng+ with a rifle

[@damellwatts9793]

@Resident Krockhead I'm on my second playthrough and they actually changed a few things up which is pretty dope. The shotgun isn't hanging on the wall anymore 2nd playthrough for you to sell.

[@mykelmellen2378]

This is a fucking meme at this point, right? Literally 70% of comments on every video.

[@lyruldeku]

​@@residentkrockheaddang figured it'd be in NG for speedruns lol.

[@markmagician2471]

​@@damellwatts9793 unless you didn't pick it up

[@inkeddecker9964]

What I like is the knife the most useful weapon in the game, is what marvin gave leon. It means alot to see this weapon and marvin in a way life on in the lore.

[@doktor3196]

The knives are characters now. Like in DMC 5, Rebellion, Sparda, Force Edge, Yamato. They all got their identity and now RE does too. Marvin's knife, Krauser's knife. Leon is on a path.

[@stankgangsta4105]

That piece of crap broke on the 3rd Zombie in 2. How could a Knife be built so poorly?

[@milkduds1001]

Personally, I like the significance of the knife in the story… but not the actual design lol. Maybe I’m biased because I hate the M9 Bayonet, but I liked Leon’s OG knife better lol.

[@yoohoo236]

I sold it

[@alansilvasantos1210]

I think canonically, he gave it to Claire, since you receive the knife in Scenario A. In Scenario B, the canon for Leon, Marvin is already a zombie when you meet him.

[@desolatedragon9872]

Probably my favorite thing about the remake was the proper explanation of what happened to Leon after RC. Not only did we get an idea of how he got as strong as he did (which could be put together from information gathered from other places, but i like that info about Leon came from a game focusing on Leon), but it touched on the psychological effects surviving RC had on him, which made him more human (imo). It makes sense that, even 6 years after the incident, he's still affected by what happened.

[@khotunkhan3950]

a first experience like that. hell nah to forget that

[@ElPolloLoco7689]

I can just imagine Leon as an old man, just agressive shooting and stabbing random dead bodies to make sure they're dead lmao

[@lirenxin5472]

@@ElPolloLoco7689 you know, people that have been in combat can fight much better even when they are old than people that have never been in combat like me 😂😂

[@gibleyman]

And his PTSD also ties perfectly to him suddenly becoming a master of quips and jokes, it's a coping mechanism to keep himself calm and collected.

[@TRG_R17]

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[@salazar556]

I'm really happy that Capcom didn't forget about Operation Javier. I always wanted a full game on that. Maybe there will be a DLC or something. One can hope!

[@CyberJawa1986]

I liked the story/lore it added, but I thought some of the creatures were ridiculously designed

[@SergeantAngel]

That would be awesome.

[@odysseus8403]

​@@CyberJawa1986 the tyrant's were so damn cool

[@seraphim_hawkk]

I would happily pay for a full campaign about that, a South American setting would smack!

[@GothicPunk007]

I'm sure it will be DLC or a full game as it's very likely Code Veronica will be remade and Operation Javier has ties to the Veronica virus as Wesker took Steve's corpse with him to obtain a sample.

[@papapoot4999]

Luis is still vague in the remake, but after Leon's consistent pushing, he finally spills it. Leon also acts more appropriately to Luis' mysteriousness

[@johnnyspeedboat6656]

One of the biggest changes is right at the start of the game, and makes the intro 10x better imo: In the original, Leon doesn't speak any Spanish, so he can't understand what the Ganados are saying. He asks in English if the Ganado has seen Ashley Graham anywhere nearby, to which the Ganado basically tries to shoo Leon away before trying to kill him. This sparked a bit of a meme in the fanbase, since it kind of looks like Leon kills an innocent villager who was just trying to protect his home from an unknown, armed stranger. In the remake, Leon first asks the Ganado in Spanish if he has seen a police officer, gets no response and then finds the bloodied badge of the cop. The Ganado swings an axe at Leon, who then kills him.

[@GamingHarryYT]

Yeah i noticed that at first but forgot to include it in the video. It was a cool touch!

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Eh, that doesn’t change anything though lmdao. We all know that he wasn’t trying to protect his house so it’s like nitpicking. Especially because nothing indicates Leon knew any other Spanish

[@SpookyJuice]

@@BabyGirlTinywe know, but the decisions make no sense for a real person to make in the original . New Leon knows enough variable words to tell that he can at least hold a conversation. Which makes a lot more sense then sending a guy who can’t speak a word of Spanish on a solo mission in Spain.

[@01MEGABOB]

What I find most funny is that in the original, that first Ganado actually curses like a sailor to get Leon to leave. Instantly earned its M rating.

[@mavielor7394]

he doesnt speak spanish his spanish is broken af

[@jamesb4976]

One of the reasons Leon was forced to join was because of Sherry. Government: So your going to join us or we’re going to dissect her. Is basically is one of the main reasons why. One of my favorite changes is to Ashley’s Character I really like her as a character now great improvement over the original.

[@GlitchyHalo]

I heard the compilation of Ashley screaming “Leon!!” And glad that being a damsel in distress wasn’t her only personality trait anymore what I like is Ashley yells out for Leon in a distressed “watch out!” way when Leon is on low health and is about to die

[@gobblegobble831]

Is that Sherry thing confirmed in a file or something? Would make a lot of sense, but I never read anything indicating that before

[@Satin_Strawberry]

​​@@gobblegobble831There are epilogue files you can unlock at the end of the original RE3 that tell you what happened to several characters. Leon's file implies that he joined the government (they wanted to take advantage of his experience) in exchange for Sherry's safety. This was also depicted in a cutscene in RE: The Darkside Chronicles. If you look at Claire's file (from the original RE3), you can see why Sherry was left with Leon in the first place: she was in a hurry to find her brother.

[@Streifen1911]

When has that ever been stated?

[@reddishcarp1237]

26:28 You kinda missed that Wesker also has a photo of young Spencer & Miranda from RE8 in the screen on the top left corner. Which ties back to Wesker's special forces unit, the HCF working with the Connections & Miranda to make Eveline.

[@Fragmentsinfractals488]

It is also implied that Father Saddler believes he is legitimately what Mother Miranda pretends to be. They both spread the Gift of their Grace. But Father Saddler does it to "make the Body of their Lord" , and Mother Miranda does it to resurrect her daughter's body.

[@Morningstar-66617]

Good fucking eye dude.

[@throwacnt7603]

@ReddishCarp 123 I thought that, up to this point, it was never confirmed that Wesker or his unit were working with the Connections. Also I wonder if this is a hint towards them changing Wesker in RE5, that would be fantastic. I hated what they did with him, what he turned into and how they killed him off even though the game was fairly enjoyable.

[@kato093]

@@throwacnt7603 what?!? Wesker in RE5 was THE BEST. he carried the game for me. His fights were awesome and he was awesome. Just the ending and the way he died by injecting with uroboros sucked a bit, because it turned Wesker into yet another big dumb monster like the usual tyrant. A bit cliché how they start human and become big dumb monsters that chase you. Wesker wouldn't become a big dumb BOW and wouldn't inject himself with uroboros. Btw, FUCK YES. I really really hope they remake RE5 (possibly without Sheva. It's just Chris, alone) and Wesker doesn't die while still being the same lovable badass he is. Then they can remake RE6, and leave it as is cuz it's the best, and have Wesker as the secret bad guy that didn't die in RE5. And re9 can be Chris as main protagonist going against wesker, a throwback to re1 and the rivalry between Chris and Wesker. Chris needs a solo game. He hasn't gotten one since...RE5 ffs. Re6 had everyone so it doesn't count. Leon: re2 remake and re4 remake Claire: re2 remake and revelations 2 Jill: revelations 1 and Re3 remake Chris: 10 minutes in revelations 1, a lame dlc in RE7 and 10 minutes in re8.

[@throwacnt7603]

@@kato093 You pretty much nailed why I hated Wesker in 5. It was mostly his dumbness, loss of "chill" (he always kept it together, that was his signature attitude), his plans made no sense, and his final fight was too anime for me. Prior to his final fight it was mostly ok but I couldn't forgive his ending, lol.

[@salt262]

it truly was one if not the best remake of all time. without damaging the lore or anything Luis went from a oh no hes dead to me and my girl crying. So much attention to detail went into it its crazy

[@AesirUnlimited]

I agree. In the original I even found his death to be comical purely because of Leon’s “LUIIIIS!” When he died. I legitimately didn’t care that he was dead. But in the remake I felt legitimately bad for him. He was a smooth-talker with a shady past. But he also had a heart of gold. A man who wanted nothing more than to right some of his wrongdoings. So when he died in the remake, I legitimately felt sad for him. As opposed to laughing at Leon’s overreaction in the original.

[@lyruldeku]

That Luis part hurt more than the original. His last words "People can change right?" hit me hard.

[@jackjax7921]

Re 4 OG damaged the lore in the original.

[@MR.__G]

@@jackjax7921 you can say. They went more for a gaming experience which was revolutionary & extremely fun.

[@jamiedavies3810]

I really liked Luis this time around. You could tell he genuinely felt bad about his research and just wanted to help Leon and Ashley. When Krauser eliminates Luis I actually cared about his death, especially when he asks if people can change... I got a lot of satisfaction unloading multiple magnum rounds into his head.

[@Aarzu]

One of the things that really struck me about this remake was how the put in letters, journals, etc. from the villagers describing the aspirations of the villagers and how hopeful and excited they were to open up for more trade since they were in such a remote village. Suddenly Salazar arrives and, initially, the villagers are even more hopeful, especially for their descendants, but many of them come to realize the reality of Salazar's "gift", before they finally completely lose their sense of self and become completely subservient.

[@Neytiri935]

Damn, that is so sad.

[@atlusmusicUK]

M

[@AngryPaisan]

Yeah the end credits show pictures of the village before. And then leading into the cult descending upon them, turning it into shit.

[@Random_Fanguy]

​@@AngryPaisan I actually really love this touch in the credits. How the village was peaceful and full of normal people living their lives until the cult showed up with the Plagas.

[@AngryPaisan]

@@Random_Fanguy they really did an excellent job. I hope other devs and companies can see what capcom did here and remaster/remake some original games like this. Think of the shit show that the GTA trilogy remaster was.

[@dannieplatinum4268]

The lore is the main reason I really want remakes of 0, 1, Code Veronica, and 5. Aside from better graphics and modern controls, the remakes have fantastic storytelling and enhance the existing lore.

[@AydarBMSTU]

At least in re2 and re3 they didn't enhance the lore, what are you on about?

[@Sercroc]

eh, not treally, not played 4 remake yet, but they don't do a good job at connecting to other games in the seires, almost don't even mention them, it's almost like a new timeline

[@thatnig321]

Frfr

[@ElPolloLoco7689]

@@Sercroc Why would something that happened in an american city be mentioned in a spanish one ? I don't think references to 2 and 3 were needed at all

[@crisanerd]

@@Sercroc In the OG re4, they dont reference the previous games almost at all besides Leon/Ada. I can see in the comments you are really trying to defend the OG re4. I think this video itself is proof that the remake expanded the lore more than the OG game did, so hopefully you can agree there.

[@iditrirajan]

24:42 in Japanese magazine of original RE4, it stated that Garador, due to influence of parasite, started aggressively attacking everyone. Hence, why he was locked in a dungeon and his eyes were poked out

[@Circurose]

I assume Operation Javier is not entirely retconned, because Krauser says remember how him and Leon survived the jungle.

[@TheRealAdaWong]

This makes me wonder if for Ada’s scenario that they’ll reference *Death’s Door* where she escaped Raccoon City via Wesker. There’s also the call she made in RE2R on her radio, the voice was distorted but this could be the content they reuse to show Ada’s history with Wesker. Just like they added new scenes and info between Krauser/Leon to make his betrayal more compelling later. This would redefine Ada’s betrayal at the end of the Remake if the audience learns Ada had been spying on Wesker since 1998, which made her the ultimate superspy.

[@mookiestewart3776]

yeah theres a couple documents that mention the operation in the game

[@OWmyDragonballz]

@@mookiestewart3776 So the events in dark side chronicles still happened? I thought Javier used the t veronica virus.

[@DilTinman]

@@OWmyDragonballz No, they didn't. I don't know why people use the line of the jungle as a confirmation of that, because there's more than one jungle in the world. As for the document, the events depicted in it are not at all even close to what happened in Darkside Chronicles, and Krauser was the only survivor of the Operation meaning Leon couldn't have been there. Alot of people like to play the what-if game of "well the note could have been scrubbed of any involvement of Leon" and that makes no sense considering the only information scrubbed from the note was Krauser's name (it mentions him as Major, so that's how we're for sure it's Krauser), the author of the note's name, and what is presumed to be the author's name again, but mentioning he's been killed. That last point is the second reason why the idea of they scrubbed Leon's involvement for it falls apart because that would mean the note was an inaccurate retelling of the events, but if that was the case there would have been no reason to silence the person who wrote it. This also wasn't done to keep Krauser's survival of the operation a secret either so he could act like he was dead the entire time because Leon never once mentions how he thought Krauser was dead in the remake. Beyond that, anytime Leon and Krauser talk about the actual events of the operation, they both talk as if Leon was an outsider to the operation. Leon never tries to empathize with Krauser with things like "I was there too, i know what you went through but i didn't turn out the same as you", instead he sympathizes with him with lines like "What happened in that event was horrible but i didn't think it would turn you into this." These aren't verbatum lines or anything, but it's the kind of lines that were said. Also i don't know where this video got the idea that Javier in Darkside Chronicles was a drug lord, it was never mentioned as such. That game says he was "known for his extravagant lifestyle" implying he was just some rich dude who tried to get in with Umbrella. You can make assumptions all you want but there was never any confirmation of anything like a drug cartel being involved in the original from what i remember. And also going back to the note, if we're to assume the events depicted are accurate, and i've given my reasons as to why they clearly are, there's no mention of bioweapons anywhere, meaning nothing from the original happened at all.

[@rickychappell7179]

There are notes in darkside chronicles operation Javier that krauser helicopter crashed and that leon was sent in later with better transportation making Krauser very angry in secret

[@InfiniteEscuro]

A slight expansion on Remake Saddlar; not only does he seem to be able to control the Plaga in others from a great distance, but he actively seems to talk *through* Ashley to Leon while she's, for want of a better term, holding herself hostage with Leon's knife.

[@ladiesmahn217]

I never played the original fully so this was my first time. And honestly this is one of the best games I’ve ever played. And now this remake is my favorite title in the franchise.

[@GamingHarryYT]

Just goes to show how ground breaking the original actually was.

[@edster8416]

The original was so good at that time of course. I mean if u played it back before this remake little to none expectation it still delivers. Was worried there were gonna destroy it like they did with RE 3 which was disappointing. Probably my most fav of all the RE series.😅

[@lyruldeku]

I haven't finished it yet. I'm on Chapter 14 but I'm already giving the game a 10/10. Last game I gave that rating to was RE2 Remake but I feel 4 Remake is the best remake of the 3.

[@jackjax7921]

@@GamingHarryYT Just shows they are not blinded by biased nostalgia.

[@MR.__G]

@@lyruldeku well they have 4 remakes now in total. Hopefully we can get a modern remake of the original which is top 3 game in the franchise

[@XiaNaphryz]

I think one thing that wasn't covered in the Salazar section was that Ramon was sick at one point as a child, and his mother ended up going to Los Illuminados to cure him. "In order to cure Ramon's sickness, his mother Catalina invited the devil into our home." The file goes through the Salazar line ending with "8th Gen. Count Ramon His illness should have taken him."

[@cmdrjanjalani]

I laughed when I was reading the notes and found out the Saddler that started it all was named Adam. Adam Saddler 😂

[@eltemplariodetierrasanta7234]

First it was Jill Sandwich, then Leon Pancake and now.... Adam Saddler. Bro I cant-💀💀💀

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Now I know where Max0r got the joke from lol

[@mohdadeeb1829]

​@@eltemplariodetierrasanta7234 I don't get this reference.

[@JDEdits20]

@@mohdadeeb1829 Adam Sandler I think

[@youtube-kit9450]

I literally misread the note the first time as Adam Sandler and got super confused, then had to pause to stop laughing.

[@Bibimbapski]

That mine cart was my favorite part, the entire game was awesome and it's my favorite RE remake now, I used to love RE2R and still love it but this topped it. I'm so happy we got to fight side by side with Luis before his demise. His death made me tear up this time around.

[@No-Ink]

I understand why the laser hall was removed as well as the removed boss fight. The Hall really couldn't be used due to the game not having the QTEs and the boss fight and that area really not making sense.

[@anotherhappylanding4746]

The theory with the cut boss fight is that it will appear on adas separate ways dlc

[@rotchgwylt]

I mean they literally could've imagined a new area like they did for the rest of the game. + the game as sorts of "QTE" but they feel a lil too easy for me.

[@rotchgwylt]

@@anotherhappylanding4746 yeah I'm hoping for this.

[@GuyOnAChair]

The hall didn't make any sense to begin with in terms of plot or setting.

[@AydarBMSTU]

@@rotchgwylt no no stop, you are making too much sense! Apparently nothing could be done to include laser room! Besides it didn't have any sense, according to some remake fangirs

[@Thencarmona64]

Wesker: I do not pay you to ask questions. Also Wesker: *answers question*

[@yagnenttv]

Wesker being too hyped about turning his plan into reality and having to share

[@chrange9714]

He didn't really answer her question lol, she asked what he planned to do with the sample and all he told her was that a new dawn would be breaking.

[@myaava6608]

​@@yagnenttv He's too excited, he got to share it 😭

[@johans3164]

@@chrange9714 Is Wesker a secret Twilight fan? No wonder he is so evil and sickening

[@modergav]

Who else while playing the game and learning about Adam Saddler had a giggle imagine Adam Sandler as a Cult leader? Because I did.

[@kingdavidfrancis]

I knew I wasn’t the only one! 🤣

[@youtube-kit9450]

I literally misread the file/gravestone/whatever it was as Adam Sandler and I legit was confused for a full 10 seconds until I read it again and then I had to pause the game for a bit to stop laughing.

[@AhmedMohamed-qm4wd]

It’s amazing how they’ve not only improved on the overall visuals of the original, but how they’ve expanded on the lore as well. Hope they do the same for RE5.🤞

[@delphinelavendermorgan4627]

🤞🤞

[@dantauche7917]

AGREED!!!

[@anthoniemccay]

God, I know it's not everyone's favorite, but oh how much I would pay to play through a remake with my best friend like we're in middleschool again

[@anotherhappylanding4746]

I don't see how they can make 5, before code veronica since that game is so important in terms of having wesker in it and also featuring his rivalry with Chris

[@AhmedMohamed-qm4wd]

@@anotherhappylanding4746 Hmm, good point. They might remake Code Veronica before RE5 if they're going based on the timeline, but with the cliffhanger, I'm not sure. Either way can't wait.

[@TheEffectOfMass]

Some of these changes are subtle, but they could have bigger implications. Just one example being how Ashely emphasizes that they make a good team, and that maybe she'll be an agent one day. This plus a few other details makes me think (and hope) that they'll go a little bit further in updating the story to be "better" for future remakes. My pipe dream is that they remake RE5 into more of a horror game and fix some of the story issues. And if all goes well, they completely retcon RE6. (it's a long shot, but what are dreams for!?)

[@GlitchyHalo]

They could retcon 6 and keep the Leon and Ada stuff and Helena and Leon in the elevator when she says she knows that Leon loves Ada I hope 6 isn’t the last we see of Ada cuz she isn’t in the rest of the games or the cgi movies/infinite darkness maybe we will get re4 remake dlc where it’s about Ada and what she did after she didnt give the Amber to Wesker

[@3456coolkid]

I honestly wouldn’t mind if Ashley replaces Helena in re6

[@Flowersweep]

@@3456coolkidI wanted to agree with this but what about the story between Helena and her sister? What would they do with that?

[@3456coolkid]

@@Flowersweep Side story

[@Thencarmona64]

If i recall krauser takes ashley in the original as well, his character model is seen in the cutscene of the boat heading towards the island, albeit relatively unnoticeable

[@Sercroc]

yes saddlers sends him

[@GldnClaw]

My rocket did nothing to stop the boat

[@izaakborza700]

Gaming Harry is honestly a step above the rest in terms of lore explanations. Edit: Great to see so many people agree with me, props to Vaatividya, Roanoke gaming, Gingy, FilmComicsExplained. Such a great age for Lore KZbin.

[@midnightmelodie4191]

So true!!!

[@SnazzyPuke]

I love the way he reads his scripts. They sound so natural and easy to follow. Reminds me of Niyat from FilmComicsExplained

[@tenji8084]

I’ve read somewhere that Luis’s first question “Got a smoke?” Is code for umbrella operatives I think? Pretty cool detail imo.

[@clericneokun]

I can't believe I missed the hikers on my first playthrough. I probably should take more time checking the scenery on my ongoing 2nd playthrough. I am quite amazed at how much lore they expanded on in this remake. What a great game.

[@namelessrice]

They also revealed that the method by which Umbrella controls its Tyrants is through the use of parasites, and that the technique was found and perfected by the Umbrella Europe team. Whom, went on to develop the completed version of the parasite that was used on Nemesis. So you can assume that Luis Serra, with knowledge of parasites from his home region was instrumental in the creation of Tyrants and their use/destruction in the world.

[@OWmyDragonballz]

So Mr X and T002 had parasites in them?

[@namelessrice]

@@OWmyDragonballz Im pretty sure the original Mr X and first model Tyrants were cloned, put in stasis then they put a transmitter/computer thing in their head that gave them missions to do. But they were tough to control, the tyrants kept basic intelligence and if kept in stasis too long their programming wouldnt register. Thats why they developed the parasite method

[@BabyGirlTiny]

@@OWmyDragonballz no

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Yeah except no that’s not really what happens because why would Wesker than want a sample of the parasite of it’s already used.

[@adhirg]

you can make a case that the umbrella photo for the team that made Nemesis has Luis in it

[@BasementBubbatunde]

If there's one thing I like about this series it's that most of the enemies (the unique ones) actually have a good backstory and most of them are sympathetic or flat out good people before whatever happened too them happened

[@LordRoku-]

this is by far my fav resident evil game i had a blast playing it

[@Youarekenough]

Man, knowing that Luis has a past with the Big Chief makes me want to see more interesting interactions between them. I'd imagine it's like a staredown between them with expression of reminiscence and guilt from the chief. Thatd be so cool

[@acecashman1237]

I really do see U-3 being for Separate Ways. The remake establishes that the other Verdugo that eventually just disappears is called U-3 and is also female now, so I'm thinking the Verdugo is gonna mutate into the U-3 monster and the battle will serve as like a chick fight between her and Ada

[@Youarekenough]

Ow yeah i was wondering the whole time as to where the other verdugo went cuz it wasn't with ramon before his boss fight

[@joakim1462]

👏🤔

[@mistahmaniac7215]

You called it

[@tyrodl038]

I actually really like what they did with Ashley this time around, I.e. making her actually semi aware of her surroundings and I don’t know… likable, that’s the word. I came away from this game wanting to see an expansion of Ashley’s role in the franchise as a whole, maybe a dlc or something of the sort; but all and all I’m super hyped for the other mainline games and remakes if this one is anything to go by.

[@GlitchyHalo]

Yeah I was glad that being a damsel in distress who later crushed on Leon wasn’t her main personality you can still see it a bit but not as much as the original What I think is interesting is in the original during the jetski escape Leon says “hang on tight, sweetheart” while in the remake he says “hope you like thrill rides” Leon kinda friendzones Ashley in both games (Asking him to be her bodyguard was like her asking him out) but getting rid of the sweetheart line made it easier to do that and it just fit Leon more. It’s more in character of him to have a one liner now rather than a flirty comment especially to someone you only see as a friend Ashley wasn’t just Leon’s mission anymore she seemed like a genuine friend to him now after they both helped each other so much and I hope we see more of their friendship in future games or movies maybe a 2nd season of Infinite Darkness

[@amirgarcia547]

One thing I’m glad with the remake is how much it ended up expanding on and fleshing out the story. For the original, Shinji Mikami treated it as an afterthought since he primarily focused on making the game fun, and so the plot is more or less an entertaining but mindless action movie. And one thing Mikami stated in interviews that he hoped Capcom changed in the remake was making the story better, which they certainly did in the remake. In this new version, it feels far bleaker and more grounded, like you’re actually going up against this creepy and dangerous cult that have turned an entire group of people into mindless slaves. And that along with expanding on Luis and Krauser’s role by making Luis a researcher for Umbrella and referencing Operation Javier from Darkside Chronicles, adding more lore for Mendez and Salazar, making Leon and Ashley’s parasites feel like less of an afterthought by adding more scene with them struggling with it and even giving Leon hallucinations at certain points, and having Ashley slowly warm up to Leon instead of trusting him right away are all additions that I largely appreciated. The only character I felt got a notable downgrade was Ada, as she gets *less* screentime than in the original (all her scenes with Krauser were cut…in fact, in the remake I don’t think she’s affiliated with Krauser *at all* anymore, along with the scene where Leon chokes her due to the parasite), and there’s nothing really added to compensate for her reduced role. It’s something I hope gets rectified in future Seperate Ways DLC, which has been rumored/datamined. People are also theorizing that she could possibly have a boss fight against the second Verdugo, since it just disappears in the remake without explanation, instead of fusing with Salazar like in the OG.

[@Me-bj4uf]

I definitely think that’s the case with Ada. It feels like she’s not there but I hope it’s because in separate ways they’ll reveal that she was far more sneaky that in the original and helped from the shadows as opposed to being more there

[@jamjox9922]

i defininitely think she'll be in some DLC for sure. OR, she might even be involve in RE5 remake. Capcom is trying hard to straighten their lore and the connection between the remakes; that's why I think that's how it'll go. I'm looking forward to RE5 remake, because you know they'll announce eventually.

[@LuigiaTV]

Salazar got an extreme downgrade imo. He has no presence. The comically evil characters were a lot more entertaining then these restrained ones. Saddler as well was much more charismatic in the original. It kind of sucks in that regard cause re8 had very over the top characters as well who were so entertaining. I am pretty sure most of the Ada scenes will be in seperate ways which tbh she didn't have much more screentime in the original outside of seperate ways and operation Ada.

[@amirgarcia547]

@@LuigiaTV Honestly while I do prefer Salazar and Saddler in the OG game due to the entertaining banter they had with Leon, I think the remake versions of them are pretty solid too due to leaning far more into their creepiness and unrepentant evil instead. Salazar is given a lot more backstory that better demonstrates why he decided to excavate the Plaga despite the lengths his ancestors went to seal them away, and Saddler in particular I think got the best changes. Since due to expanding on Leon and Ashely being affected by the plaga, they made him this constant presence who haunts them throughout the game instead of just showing up randomly and then disappearing like in the original. And then once he eventually does show up in the island, you can tell right away how much of a threat he is, and with Leon only manages to survive each encounter with him through the skin of his teeth.

[@amirgarcia547]

@@jamjox9922 I personally doubt she’d be included in an RE5 remake since she wasn’t in the original, and so far the remakes haven’t included characters who didn’t already have a role in the OG. Only expanded on the ones who did. Even if she somehow was…what would she even do story-wise to justify her inclusion? Try to steal a sample of the Ouroboros virus from Wesker?

[@cheesydanishgaming3333]

20:42 actually as pointed out by Shesez in a boundary break episode by moving the camera closer to the boat during the cutscene you can actually see that its Krauser delivering her to the island and is made even more apparent by the red baret he wears

[@thejanusproject32]

The story from the RE4 original game was quite sparse. Yes they laid the foundation and some answers to what happened, but the RE4 Remake dives so much more deeper, just like your video is titled. And the RE4 Remake brings about Empathy, Sadness and Pity against the villagers. They were used, abused and killed. It's quite tragic. Thank you so much for putting this video together. It's great to hear the story more deeper than usual.

[@TheSoulGage]

The ending credits of OG RE4 kinda brings that same feeling, as you're seeing drawings of the Village and the lead up to the plaga taking over, down to the children dying due to not being able to handle the Plagas. The Remake replaces this with lore notes that are just as effective.

[@Ahhkiba]

Always loved the fact that Chief Mendez is referred to as the “The Big Cheese”

[@remediosusi5869]

Another great touch is that the iron maidens are actually evolved forms of the regenerators, where it is possible for a regenerator to further mutate should it suffered from grave injuries I love the new backstory that Leon basically was forced into joining the Pres secret service program. Knowing he was a cop and finds him useful because he already at least have training experience (despite being a cop for one day), maybe the Whitehouse blackmailed him on threats of harming Sheryl and Claire if he refused, knowing the 3 of them have witness the horrors in Raccon City the US govt can easily silence and make them "vanish (killed)". Just like how the US does their sleazy questionable methods of causing foreign conflicts abroad and domestically...just like in real life I never understood the lore of U3, in the original only Saddler mentioned it to sound like "you may have escaped Leon, but my scary minion will wait for you at this place" kind of vibe. Any notes and files does not give sufficient information about it, making U3 a monster that came out of nowhere

[@VikingPoodle]

This is why I love your videos. There was so much I missed or didn't pick up on in my playthrough. I absolutely loved Re4 remake already but this makes me appreciate it that much more. Great work as always

[@SJ-tn5wi]

Thank you!! I just love the in-depth dives on games, always so much stuff to learn. It was like a class with your favorite teacher, well done sir 🤘

[@walkingexistentaldread3079]

the depth they gave to Luis made him such an interesting and tragic character.

[@quasar7683]

I haven't played the original Resident Evil 4 myself so this video offered a great insight on how much they expanded upon things. Great video as usual.

[@arthurkurbedzis]

That was a satisfying addition to my second walkthrough on the background.

[@stitchfan93]

Keep up the great work Gaming Harry!

[@Adog00]

I just finished the game, like 20 minutes ago. Was so amazing. My thoughts rn is a 10/10 better than the original. Thanks for this video man

[@GuyOnAChair]

28:05 The gondola is still visible above the cabin. I think it will be featured in Seperate Ways. It could be a still meant for Mercs but there's a pic of Louis chilling out in the cabin laid back in a chair there. I'd wager we'll see Salazars Left Hand, maybe some reinterpretation of the turret cultist, U3, the hook shot, the upper parts of the island and more Louis as well. 26:31 There's a picture of Resident Evil Revelations Chris in snow gear to the right too.

[@IkeFanBoy64]

I assume the Zealot the turrent ran to was replaced with the ritual section that introduces the red robed Priests and their ability to force zealots to mutate. In my opinion, I wouldn't mind if a Seperate Ways expansion leaves out that part (or moves it to the island, likely in the battleship section). It's a minor gripe with the original, but it felt like the Zealots in RE4 were a lot more militarized than the actual milita. I mean, there's a few times in the castle that you come across zealots with RPGs. I think that was a good change. Makes things more consistent.

[@GuyOnAChair]

@@IkeFanBoy64 I think that area was also a bit of a redesign of the magma room too though the fire breathing was given to the Salazar statue. Totally agree with that point too, I assumed they'd cut it for that reason and pacing. If it does even come back I hope wether it's the island or castle that it makes more sense and is as chosesive as the rest of the remake. I remember that wall coming down to reveal the two RPG guys in the castle. It wasn't the best setpeice and was strange. I was glad they limited the RPG's to the island to better differentiate it from the castle.

[@IkeFanBoy64]

@@GuyOnAChair 👍

[@tiagocosmos]

RE4make is amazing. I loved the original RE4, but i love the improvements to the characters, lore and storytelling. The darker tone suits these remakes much more. The goofiness of the original RE4 will always be a fond rememberance, but I far prefer this overall.

[@GrandmasterDevo]

One thing I remember from the original was that Krauser mentioned he was supposedly trying to restore Umbrella. That didn't make too much sense to me and I'm glad that Capcom seemed to have deleted that detail in the remake. That said, though, it seems like Krauser wasn't working for Wesker at all and was genuinely all in with Saddler and the Illuminados.

[@zechrov]

I'm curious if 7 and 8 are causing the remakes to happen to get the stories more in line with each other

[@Anan-mr2fz]

It definitely is haha

[@DREAM41510]

Supposedly they have been on 9 with Leon hopefully it's true.!

[@michaelclark7447]

In one of the trailers, it showed Ashley running through the woods and it made me wonder if there will be DLC coming that explores this?

[@LinayatIlyas]

Finally, a deep delve into the expanded lore of RE4R! I sub :D

[@TheKageX]

Something you missed is that Ramon is the 8th generation Salazar. And it was the 2nd generation that sealed it and it would said that the 7th gen was murdered by a devil which one can speculate it being Ramon due to his nature and also it states he has an illness that should’ve killed him which explains his acceptance of las plagas.

[@SebbyPlaysMusic]

10:36 - The room with the skulls is the town hall, where they used to keep El Gigante before he grew too big.

[@jackwilliam4436]

28:21 'The Ashley section was much more enjoyable, too'. Meanwhile, Ashley (as she's trying to survive being attacked by half a dozen plaga-infested suits of armor, while activating the four symbols she needs to proceed) : 'This suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭'

[@Ncryption]

Always great videos looking forward to this with morning coffee.

[@mrniba7280]

You can actually still camp in the tower in the village fight. If you don't move at all after climbing the ladder, the floor won't break. Though the enemies will climb up after you.

[@AdeptKing]

I like this remake but the Krauser fight takes the cake for me. I love how we actually get to control the knife fight instead of it being a QTE and it still felt awesome. Feels like we can move like we're in a QTE.

[@GlitchyHalo]

I like how Leon is respectful and uses his knife when Krauser does so it’s a fair fight You can see it in his eyes before he impales him with Krausers knife that he didn’t want to kill him but Krauser just proved again and again that he is an asshole ans accepts it so not much Leon can do except deliver Krauser’s fate It’s probably also sad cuz maybe Leon despite possibly knowing that Krauser was always an asshole, he probably looked up to him ans maybe saw him as a father figure

[@crowsenpai5625]

Los Ilumanados really felt more like a cult in this one.

[@AngryPaisan]

For the mine cart section, instead of delaying dr Salvador’s chainsaw swings by shooting him. You can shoot his mine cart until it breaks and you won’t have to deal with him for the rest of the rollercoaster ride.

[@thanashs]

Wesker's comment of "a hundred will give their lives so just one may live" somehow makes me think that in remake storyline maybe he works for Spencer and he plans to give him the Amber maybe ? It would be nice to change the story a bit and give Spencer his time to shine

[@OWmyDragonballz]

I doubt they’ll deviate THAT far from the original lore. All they are doing is slightly tweaking elements of the lore and adding more context.

[@ChadHellgado]

Wesker at the end: "Maybe I shouldn't have told her that she's gonna help me kill billions of innocent people"

[@zhafranannaufal]

Been here since Harry's first explanation about the Outlast series and i watched his lore videos since then, Gaming Harry never lets me down.

[@sandahtoo1575]

This remake is a 10/10 for me being a fan of the original.

[@gobblegobble831]

Got into your channel when replayed the outlast series last year. Thanks for covering so much survival horror content man, really enjoy your in depth breakdowns of all these incredible stories.

[@n7firetruck848]

I for some reason want a game with Luis as the main character we play would love to know more about him and his role in the RE Universe

[@stormp2982]

Gaming Harry incredible video you always put out quality content 🔥

[@midnightmelodie4191]

Love your vids! Thank you so much for your continued making of these story explain videos!

[@supermario_49]

I love these videos that put RE files to life! Well done!

[@armorhawk8109]

This should absolutely be the golden standard for remaking games, I haven't been so entirely impressed and satisfied with a remake before. I felt like I did as a kid playing the original for the first time again and that's a feeling I've chased for over a decade. I thought the RE2 remake was fantastic, and I still do, but this blows it out of the water. Now I'm gonna 100% it and wait patiently for the Separate Ways DLC that I'm desperately hoping we aren't wrong about.

[@robybalde5742]

Ashley deserves her own spinoff game where she gets her true arc.

[@dudewithtude4476]

gaming Harry notification crew 💪... again 😅

[@FredThePhoenix]

Great video! I love the remake so much more than the original game! Fantastic job!

[@Tom3744]

What I loved about the remake was how essential the merchant was in the story with the various dialogues, notes, and background clues to piece things together. It is implied the Merchant played both sides by providing weapons to Leon and the Los illumandos. The latter having access to RPG and cross bows, while Leon was the only one with all the good firearms. Everytime we spend money on him and sell him treasure, we crippled the cult's funding. The merchant is a local since he knows his way around the village, castle, and island to set up shop and fancy shooting galleries. Strong implication that the Merchant was from a noble family that served the Salazar family in fighting and suppressing the las plagas for centuries. This is implied thru his various request missions that show a disdain for the cult, Ramon, and their impact in the area. The request notes weren't just for Leon, but for anyone left alived and willing to commit some anti-cult activtives for some rewards. The merchant in the original was a ganados that retained his humanity, but in the remake it is vague. In a advertisement notes he left behind and at the shops are methods to repel the ganados such as flash bang grenades he carried and the colored flames seen in the Ashley's segment. The merchant knows he is not invinicible, but is willing to risk doing business to achieve his goals. Lastly he did not initially worked alone. He mentioned he has allies that marked hidden treasure by the cult, lost allies due to the plagas monsters and various wildlife roaming around, and he thanks Leon on the behalf of his compatriots for finishing the last request.

[@GlitchyHalo]

I also want to know how he met the Duke from 8 since the Duke said him and the Merchant were friends when he referenced “What are ya buyin’?”

[@isaacfairburne9981]

So operation Javier is basically the plot of "Clear and Present Danger".

[@OWmyDragonballz]

Quick correction. Nemesis wasn’t created from a T002 as you showed. It’s from T103

[@ElAndoro]

Amazing video man, It stands out of all the ones that are poping out. Good job!

[@AlexRodriguez-ip1xz]

I like how wesker tells her to basically don't ask what he needs the virus for. Then he proceeds to tell her what he needs the virus for....classic RE cartoon bad guy

[@muhammadlutfi4519]

BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR VIDS

[@ng6635]

it deepened the lore by making ashley actually have a personality that isnt yelling "LEON HEEEEELLLLLLPPPP" every 2 seconds

[@BabyGirlTiny]

Y’all really be forgetting that Ashley was kidnapped don’t y’all

[@fazelfarrokhi1998]

​@@BabyGirlTiny YES right thank you RE4 ORIGINAL is still better than remake cut content and changes

[@chrange9714]

​@@fazelfarrokhi1998 Cope harder fanboy. Seen you around various threads just copy/pasting this comment.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@BabyGirlTiny. Deflection.

[@ElPolloLoco7689]

@@chrange9714 Nah bro they removed that one hair Leon had between two other hairs, worst remake ever

[@erikpanarusky2847]

You actually can camp in the bell tower in the remake as long as you stay close to the ladder, the platform doesn't collapse until you walk towards the item in the corner

[@gerardohernandez5138]

I'm glad that they mentioned what happened to the people who got infected with the plagas, which they didn't mention to the original. For people who didn't play the game or finish it Spoilers alert Basically, it's a hive mind, so if Sadler dies, all the people who Sadler controls also die, or the plagas go in a panic attack, which is kinda crazy

[@B3llyk0]

I loved Luis so much in the original re4 and now i loved him even more, thing is all of Luis lore in the original is hidden in files, and really im not interested in reading all that in the middle of my gameplay, so i unlock everything and after completing the game i read them all, only to discover Luis lore was so deep between those pages

[@jasoncarter6606]

That's really sad. The village and everyone in it was peaceful.

[@samuraigames4125]

Krauser, luis and ashley were the biggest improvements from the remake, krauser went from a complete stranger who nobody knew and just came out of nowhere and had no serious story and just working for wesker for no reason, to this absolutely badass knife master who actually has a tragic and good story and his story, dialagues and tension with leon is so damn good, his boss fight is perfection. Luis went from an unknown side character who just died and we were like: oh no he died, anyway let's continue to one of the most tragic and good re characters which had a huge difference, and then ashley is obvious, her chemistry with leon, and she is actually helpful, sweet, nice and not annoying, the biggest downgrade was definitely ada and salazar for me, Salazar's boss fight was definitely better, one of my favorites, but overall his character was better in the og, I really loved ada, I had no problem with her voice actor, but still she was better in the original.

[@GlitchyHalo]

Yeah I was glad that being a damsel in distress who later crushed on Leon wasn’t Ashley’s main personality you can still see it a bit but not as much as the original What I think is interesting is in the original during the jetski escape Leon says “hang on tight, sweetheart” while in the remake he says “hope you like thrill rides” Leon kinda friendzones Ashley in both games (Asking him to be her bodyguard was like her asking him out) but getting rid of the sweetheart line made it easier to do that and it just fit Leon more. It’s more in character of him to have a one liner now rather than a flirty comment especially to someone you only see as a friend Ashley wasn’t just Leon’s mission anymore she seemed like a genuine friend to him now after they both helped each other so much and I hope we see more of their friendship in future games or movies maybe a 2nd season of Infinite Darkness

[@theovondex7285]

You are my favorite channel bro the work 6ou put on your videos is amazing

[@phil_matic]

One thing that just stood out as weird to me in the remake was why Ashley was even in the village. I don't see any reason why she would've needed to be transported there when she could've been brought straight to the Island, where she could've arrived by boat, or even likely by plane (since the Island seems very military base-like). In the original, when they show Ashley getting the Las Plagas injection, she did seem to be in a lab of some sort. Why would they put her in the Church after?

[@GlitchyHalo]

I think that did that as bait for Leon cuz the villagers then surrounded the graveyard they probably also wanted to wait for the parasite to kick in more before they did anything with Ashley

[@paulbaguilarable]

This video is amazing RE4 is one of my fav games of all time n hearing you explain things is awesome new sub 🙌

[@themetroidprime]

To be fair, Mendez looks a lot less angry in the remake, and a lot more like yet another, if high-ranking, victim of Saddler. He even tries dialoguing with Leon before engaging the fight, and only gets mad as he fails to overcome Leon.

[@GlitchyHalo]

I wonder if he ever felt bad for injecting Leon with the Los Plagas

[@bcarp3]

You can actually blow up the Salazar statue to stop the fire breathing. Made that part far less stressful on professional but still a huge pain 😂

[@dylanwoods5944]

Wow, Mendez's fate is very tragic, given the backstory. I almost feel bad for killing him... almost.

[@fertilizerhappens8359]

I was pretty sure that the torturer's caretaker never actually escaped. He was the body with the message carved in it.

[@demnbrown]

I like how they animated the lingering damage from the bullet wound he took in Raccoon City and his right shoulder when he grabs it periodically if you idle

[@demonintellect9834]

He only really seems to grab his should if you just used his gun a lot then idle. Basically he is stretching his shoulder out due to recoil, not necessarily the bullet wound. If it did enough damage for him to still be having pains from it he wouldn't be super secret special forces.

[@justinlovell13]

It feels like they also lengthened the timeline over which these events take place. In the og it says saddler appeared around the year 2000. But Luis grandfather becoming somehow infected with a plaga while Luis was a kid. It seems the excavation and manipulation started earlier than 2000 this time

[@OOPjpg]

i couldn't even buy the game yet and mad lad's already made a video about it lmaoooo love your videos man keep up the amazing work!!

[@torturedmasterpiece8105]

Amazing video. I finally finished the game and immediately came to watch this :))

[@TheTurquoiseAlien]

Surprised you didn’t mention that U3 (the cut boss from the original) literally took the place of one of Salazar’s bodyguards.

[@crowsenpai5625]

Took the place of? Ramon always had 2 Verdugo. The word thing is while we kill black cloak, the red one just vanishes. In the original he was part of Ramon’s boss form, but in this one he kidnaps Ashley, and then is just gone.

[@jackjax7921]

@@crowsenpai5625 He was killed by Ada. Are you paying attention?

[@OWmyDragonballz]

@@jackjax7921 maybe it mutates into U3 from original.