Gun Expert Reacts to Team Fortress 2's Dumbest Weapons

[@Gamology]

Thanks to HiGPS for providing some of the gameplay for this video. Go check out his channel: kzbin.info

[@grizzly_mke0001]

7:22 THE GAME IS 12 YEARS OLD

[@shahinberenji2406]

the The Tomislav is a modified m2 browning with a horizontal foregrip inspired by the Thompson M1 or at least the mix of that foregrip and the flar back part of the pistol foregrip

[@doctorprepologedyedeyadede3542]

Backscatter is less accurate than stock, 20 percent less

[@kugelhagel2282]

Ye should play it its amazing

[@DerpySnake]

@@grizzly_mke0001 If you're talking about the game's age, it was released in 2007, so it's 15 years old. If you're talking about its age rating, then I found that it's M for Mature (17+) in the USA and 15 in the UK. Not sure where 12 came from.

[@Gaz918]

Thing about The Loch-N-Load, it HAD BEEN loaded with the correct amount of nades in the barrels before a balance patch added a third nade for it, making it wrong.

[@darkprogram]

Same with the original grenade launcher. It used to have 6 rounds for the six chambers. Then it got nerfed to 4 and it got justified as the demo storing booze in the other two.

[@zoinksxscooby]

@@darkprogram you two have provided so much lore in two comments that I want to get into this game NOW. Any console ports other than the 360 orange box?

[@FED0RA]

@@zoinksxscooby no, only pc gets updated too btw

[@dozer1431]

@@FED0RA Lol not anymore

[@FED0RA]

@@dozer1431 yeah..

[@Reragi]

7:23 fun fact, on the ESRB it's rated 17+ due to extreme violence but no one really follows the ESRB at all

[@CaptainApathetic]

Steam doesn't even have a policy that you need one like PS or Xbox

[@williamgrant3231]

no

[@drfreakoman9976]

I feel like no one follows ESRB ratings. At all.

[@effigytormented]

@@drfreakoman9976 -in a pirate voice- They're really more like . . . . guidelines.

[@icel8828]

The violence, and adult language and references

[@anonymousaccordionist3326]

15:46 Fantastically enough, the Hitman's Heatmaker and the Cleaner's Carbine are actually part of an item set that is completed by wearing that same cap and sunglasses from that movie! It is a direct reference. The item of the hat and glasses is known as the "Liquidator's Lid."

[@PaulMeixnerFilms]

This is an awesome little tid bit that I appreciate you sharing with us! Makes me like this game even more!

[@Paycheck777]

@@PaulMeixnerFilms tf2 has a lot of item sets & cosmetic sets that are entirely references to movies/TV shows, makes me happy.

[@TehSuperWaffle3000]

@@PaulMeixnerFilms tf2 has so many refrences in each little tiny detail its why ppl still play this 14 year old game

[@TehSuperWaffle3000]

@@PaulMeixnerFilms well also because its so damn hard to master

[@johnnycripplestar5167]

@@PaulMeixnerFilms Yes, it's free by the way and all these weapons are unlockable through playing the game for some time and getting random drops of these weapons. Anyway, if you're gonna play, I hope you enjoy playing against 3 hacker bots every 2 servers, laggy unoptimizations at times and bugs, random critical hits (totally fair and balanced), and server ddosing or server lag bots that lag the game on purpose.

[@largerthanaveragedragon4145]

"The widowmaker could just be really unreliable so you're the one dying" Yes actually, the Widowmaker's gimmick is that it uses the engineer's "metal" supply (which he uses to build sentry guns and other stuff) as ammo but reloads on hit. If you have perfect aim with it you've got an infinite clip, but too many missed shots or destroyed buildings leaves you up the creek without a paddle.

[@Chom-Chom]

the gun itself comes from the deus ex human revolution game, and im guessing the devs of that game had like an ad campaign or a collab with tf2

[@adriansgaminguniverse4951]

⁠@@Chom-Chom the diamondback was also part of the deus ex collab

[@Alternboy]

I just love the energy these guys have together. You can tell that they've become friends as the series continued.

[@lobaandrade7172]

I’m pretty sure they were friends before the series

[@christianiji8259]

Have you been studying their character arcs or something?

[@christianiji8259]

@carrots with internet connection I'm talking about the way he's describing them as if they're characters in a TV series. They're just some dudes reacting to video game stuff. "friends as the series continued". What, did they hate each other before?

[@Morveyn]

12:10 The Widowmaker is modeled after a weapon from the Deus Ex series of science fiction games, and was added as part of a crossover event way back when, along with the Machina sniper rifle. So, yeah, it definitely looks more modern and a bit out of place compared to the rest of the guns in the game and the mid-20th century vibe they generally have.

[@KillerOrca]

The Diamondback revolver for Spy too.

[@Nitosa]

Or the whole dr Grordbort line of weapons, aka the pomson, bison and cowmangler.

[@freezerounds]

@@Nitosa The Grordbort pack has a retrofuturist aesthetic, so it's not too out of place with the rest of the game.

[@Andrewdroid101]

The pretty boy’s pocket pistol is from the Dirty Harry movies

[@ironic_iron8770]

As someone with more than 2000 hours on tf2, thank you guys for checking out the guns in this game and making this video. Tf2 is such a fun and goofy game and I would love to see you guys make another video about the guns.

[@flamingkittyumad]

Only 2000? pleb...

[@willian3728]

@Kelik The Edgelord or maybe he just started

[@ironic_iron8770]

@@willian3728 I started playing in 2013 and I racked up most of my hours throughout high school. And what Kelik said is true, I play just for fun now and have a life outside of the game

[@LordPebble2309]

@Kelik The Edgelord He's Joking. The Joke is that its ONLY 2K

[@EeveeRealSenpai]

not even 4k hours smh

[@X-SPONGED]

18:23 Fun Fact: TF2 used to be incredibly detailed with it's weapon models. Bullets would actually be missing in the compartment, hammers would cock back, reloading animations would be logical depending on how the weapon's looks. But over the years and the many localization files updates, the textures became crappier and the gun animations didn't make sense anymore with the new balance patches and updates so they either left them as they are or scrapped them entirely.

[@trekot7791]

Source?

[@goldfish425]

Source: just trust him bro

[@rasmustheowl6773]

The 2007 version contains the old animations, so it's actually true

[@walmorcarvalho2512]

And some of that actually made sense because, with the game going f2p and a rush of new players joining in, they had to cut down on the textures and animations to make the game more accessible for lower-end machines and lighter on the servers, but yeah in the end each update and rebalnce Valve was making it pretty clear they just don't care for this game anymore.

[@youraverageenclavesoldier]

Hence the name, "spaghetti code"

[@Brodrich]

9:39 it originally only had 2 shots (hence the model) but when they balanced it the gave it a third shot. It still uses the original model sot that's why it's the way it is.

[@poopyjoe7435]

There is a mod that gives it 3 shots but that was like 5 years ago and I don’t know if it still works

[@iminumst7827]

@@poopyjoe7435 Valve turned custom models off since then, so technically no model change mods work on most servers. But some community servers still enable custom models.

[@skazzuie]

@@iminumst7827casual model loader script 😊

[@headlitethe.unstoppablemoron]

In 9:29, the spy was doing something the community calls the spy crab, a friendly being and is a bug when holding a disguise kit, looking up and crouching.

[@Yougotcaged102]

The guns in this game would make a gun-nut have a stroke, a heart attack, violently vomit, die, come back to life to cry, and have another stroke.

[@clockworkpotato9892]

Imagine dying, only to come back to cry some more and have a second stroke

[@aburritogun]

look up "firearms experct reacts to tf2 weapons" its exactly what ur talking about, so is this video lmfao

[@clockworkpotato9892]

@@aburritogun I do believe that is a jar of piss.

[@heavy4173]

If a tank Expert saw the Tanks me and my Cousin made, they'd have Schizophrenia, Post Traumatic stress disorder, Dementia, and Cancer in a matter of seconds

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

Scattergun - double barrel lever action shotgun that shoots 1 shell at a time, has 6 shots, and reloads by pulling the lever.

[@valrend7374]

I remember hearing that a lot of the animations for the weapons got changed for the worse in an update a bit of a way back, it always gets to me and I can’t un-notice it.

[@TheRoboKitty]

Some of them were actually fixed in that update too

[@derrickhaggard]

The zany over the top action along with the over the top characters is why we love this game.

[@arcturusthelibrarian1463]

these are probably the least silly of the silly weapons, considering there's a fish that does the same damage as a metal baseball bat, a lollipop you can cut people in half with, nessie's nine iron which is a golf club you wield as as sword, the rainblower which is a flamethrower but rainbows, a literal wrapping paper tube and holiday ornament combo, whatever the cow mangler 9000 and righteous bison are, and of course the sandwich.

[@WitherBomb]

sandvich**

[@magythemage]

Keep in mind, that you dont "Choose" the weapons in this game. theres a selection of characters and each character specializes in a certain weapon type, so if you play the character you gotta work wijth what you have. The guy with the pistol, the spy, hes a stealth character, meant to use his melee weapon to stab people in the back, instantly killing them, then slip away invisible, so his pistol isnt really meant to compete against the other characters guns, its more of a backup weapo more than anything. the spy can only carry a pistol and a knife, for example. The soldier can only carry a bazooka and a shotgun, and the heavy can only carry a minigun and a shotgun. while the scout can carry a shotgun and a pistol.

[@PaulMeixnerFilms]

Appreciate the info, thank you!

[@JayHog1992]

TF2 Vets be crying that the ambassador was downgraded to "Back up weapon". Ah those times where sniper wasn't the only class that could headshot...

[@doomyboi]

I'll rag on the spy class for fun but in all seriousness do not underestimate a backpedaling spy with his revolver out. The revolvers can do some work when they need to.

[@JayHog1992]

@@doomyboi So long as your aim ain't shit while you're panicking at the W+M1 pyro that knows how to sidestep.

[@gearhooves5996]

@@doomyboi yeah, like for example the stock revolver does around 60 damage a shot and 120 crit damage a shot, with it only taking 2 direct shots to drop a light class down to around 5 health (without overheal) and with it taking at least 3 shots to drop a medic. Then there's unlocks like the Diamondback which can store crits for every backstab and building sapped in a spy's life

[@IBeforeAExceptAfterK]

8:28 That's the understatement of the century. This is a game where shooting a rocket at your feet to jump higher is actively encouraged, and where many players see replacing their shotgun with a pair of steel-toed boots as a fair trade because the boots let you rocket jump more frequently.

[@RealKorean]

Also, model 1887s were abandoned due to major jamming issues. The shells get hung up on ejection

[@mlarson]

My brother shot one once and he said the same thing about the shells

[@rinkothelad]

I find it really funny how they react to the taunts and other jokes such as the spy-crab seen during lock’n’load. Always nice to hear from a fresh perspective how things extremely normal to me are seen from new players/viewers.

[@GogiRegion]

So a common strategy for Soldier is to use a rocket to pop them up in the air and then finish them off with the shotgun. One of the reasons is because the time to kill is effectively equivalent but conserving a rocket in the “clip” is a massive deal. Rockets can be overkill with how much damage they deal, so a shotgun blast can finish others off without needing immediate reload to keep the streak going.

[@colorblue7018]

Totally love how they broke this one down! It wasn't just "OH it's unrealistic", they really broke down each piece of the gun and had some interesting facts about function. They do this series great!

[@_Cetarial]

I love watching firearms experts scratch their heads over games like TF2.

[@geraldysjunk]

Its funny how much he loves the Back Scatter. If only he knew it was Scout's worst primary

[@cristianovogt5586]

Yeah, I found that funny as well. How they assumed that the Backscatter is good and that the shortstop is bad. While in reality, the backscatter is just terrible and the Shortstop is somewhat decent.

[@evangelos4346]

Pretty sure the worst primary for Scout is the Baby Face's Blaster

[@cristianovogt5586]

@@evangelos4346 Nah, because there are some strategies you can use that makes Baby's face blaster useful and fun. As for the Backscatter, nothing really fixes that weapon. The Backscatter was added in TF2 and it was already Scout's worst primary, Valve never reworks it, and even nowadays in 2022, it still is Scout's worst primary, with no buts or ifs.

[@luigifan4585]

@@evangelos4346 A good scout can take advantage of the insane speed boost, even if for only a few seconds. The Back Scatter's design is completely pointless in actual play, since you kill important targets in two well-placed shots regardless of minicrits

[@Terroxgames6969]

@@evangelos4346 uts not that bad there both good weapons and im good with them

[@lunarfrost]

About the Demoman's reload animation, the game had a way for the default grenade launcher which rotates and after every nađe that is inserted, it would rotate to put another one (you would also be a able to see the grenades in the case), however they removed that and made an universal reload animation for all grenade launchers, even though it doesn't look realistic, The Iron Bomber has smaller barrels and in the animation it looks like he is dropping them on the floor

[@ЈованЧабаркапа]

Fun fact: "The old painless" was actualy the main insparasion for the Heavy class for Quake team fortress witch later team fortress classic was made and then Tf2

[@iangraham5097]

9:27 here, we have the wild spycrab in it's natural habita--aww why'd you shoot it?

[@Tom-vx7qh]

My favorite goofy weapon is the Scout's default scattergun, because it's a double barrel shotgun, but it's also lever action, but it also has a drum barrel, but also he never actually reloads new shots into it, he just ejects the used shells. It's a mess and I love it for that.

[@allaltitudeproductions454]

literally the first clip "HES DANCING NO" "hes just chillin" these guys dont even play the game and they already get it

[@ollanius_papyrus80]

6:03 “do we face any real work equivalent of a full-auto or semi-auto rocket launcher?” The warhammer 40,000 community: “allow us to introduce ourselves.”

[@alfiebutterworth-cu4ys]

5:54 Thia design was already made in ww2 and was called the fliegerfaust meaning plane fist in German. However they quickly abandoned the design because of how hard it was to hit the aircraft in the first place.

[@dominosdomino9617]

I think we just need the experts react to the actual trailers for the game

[@gotsomham]

That path is what turns your average react KZbinr into a tf2ber. We don’t need another one

[@ReddCrystal]

@@gotsomham I disagree. Infinite tf2bers.

[@andrewclayton1701]

Details about the guns if needed: The backscatter was intended as a flanking weapon, deals way more damage from behind The shortstop used to be better now it’s a piece of garbage and I don’t know what it’s gimmick is The beggar‘s bazooka gimmick is that it doesn’t take rockets from my magazine it takes it directly from your reserve as such you don’t really have a magazine you can just load three rockets and then you shoot all three and yes it is made out of pieces of trash The panic attack is also a piece of work It’s one of the fastest firing shotguns in the game and it’s also really quick and switching only downside is that it’s week as hell and it’s not really that useful on the soldier I use it on Pyro more The walking load is not my favorite weapon for a demo but I will use it it’s a gimmit is that it has a faster more accurate grenade compared to other launchers but it does little bit less damage (The thing the spy was doing is called spy crabbing which is when a spy messes with the game model) The Kalashnikov Main thing make is that it has a faster speed up time and it’s been up time is silent so it’s more ideal for flanking and sneaking around and sustain fire but seeing that it’s a mini gun it can still do that The window makers are the other fully auto shotguns in this game it’s gimmick is that it doesn’t use bullets it uses your metal reserve (engineer has a metal supply which he uses to build things) you are right that is not very good but I have seen people make it work so I’m not one to talk hitmans heat maker is a pretty simple sniper rifle massively rewards you for hitting head shots but it punishes you for not

[@stoodle511]

Basic ups and downs of each weapons: upside: + downside: - Featured in video: backscatter: +minicrits when the target is shot from the back, -less ammo | -wider spread shortstop: +longer range | -less ammo | +shove begger's bazooka: +high fire rate | -deviation of rocket | - self damage via overloading | -all shooting requires reloading beforehand panic attack: +more bullets| +faster pulling out| -less accuracy loch n load: +faster | -but disappears when it doesn't hit the target tomislav: -slower | +more accurate widowmaker: +regenerating ammo, -if shots connect | -uses metal instead of ammo hitman's heatmaker: +dish out headshots faster by dealing enough damage | -reduced body damage cleaner's carbine: -less damage | +minicrits when enough damage done ambassador: +headshots | -slower fire rate | -less damage

[@villager2342]

ambassador also deals less damage

[@luigithewaddledee]

Shortstop has the Gimicy "Shove"

[@stoodle511]

i'm going to add more stuff

[@hairyspider151]

Panic attack doesn't have a higher fire rate, it has a faster draw speed and higher close-range damage due to extra bullets

[@stoodle511]

@@hairyspider151 oh ok

[@dweebosupremo5904]

As a huge tf2 fan this vid really made me happy. I love how you analyze the guns, pointed out what was and wasn't realistic, but also understood and appreciated the cartoon-ish style

[@indexfunds101]

This video is proof that tf2 will never die and valve wants to kill it, also back scatter is just very dumb weapon from design you deal more damage from behind so its often called ass scatter for it being just terrible and bascially demanding user to attack from behind

[@ags8507]

valve doesnt want to kill it, they just dont care, if they wanted to kill it they would have removed the official servers long ago.

[@gavinr.3170]

This is my friend kzbin.info/www/bejne/an3Xmplqecura5o lol

[@JustCaIlMeDevon]

i dont under stand why people think valve wants to kill their game do they even think for a second how bad of a PR nightmare it would be if valve was doing this?

[@melsuppatlol4565]

@@JustCaIlMeDevon Valve can easily fix this. Ask several veterans and I'm sure they'll give you a piece of their mind.

[@crackjack144]

You mean the Boston Buttsecks

[@FordMustangCaliforniaSpecial]

Can confirm, ages 4-5 can start *whistles whilst walking away* I swear I’ve seen a recreation china lake

[@lisandrojudgement]

I would like to see them reacting to the combo weapons of the dead rising series

[@datoad6787]

That would be sweet!

[@TheLemonSlayR]

Thought I'd clarify a bunch of things about the game for ya guys. 1:12 The Backscatter is designed to shoot at your enemies right behind them. It mini - crits if you hit an enemies back, but it has a greater bullet spread. 5:18 The Beggar's Bazooka is canonically garbage, which is why it looks so messed up. 7:31 Shotguns aren't real good compared to most other weapons. In terms of the panic attack, you use it when you run out of ammo for your primary, or to finish it off(Hence why the soldier pulls it out after hitting enemies with his rockets.) 9:28 The Spy is doing what is referred to as the 'Spy-Crab' which is a bug with how spy looks when holding up his disguise cloak and crouching in a specific way. 10:42 The Tomislav is classified as a minigun in-game, and is weld by the big Russian tank Heavy. 12:10 The Widowmaker uses Engineers metal as ammo(Metal being used to build support buildings, only having a limited supply) but you regain some metal if you successfully hit a target. This makes it better if you have good aim. 17:24 The Ambassador crits if you hit an enemies' head. This also is good on Spy because he can disguise as an enemy to get closer to them, making hitting the head-shots easier. Thanks for reading this. I'll update this comment if there is anything anyone points out that is important.

[@Gianski150]

18:05 I'm glad they're happy to Soldier's warcry.

[@Metal_Lobster53]

7:41 the panic attack used to work like the beggars bazooka

[@CurlyHairedRogue]

You’re right on the money when you comment that the game is designed around CQB. Sniper is an outlier in this game, and it’s actually started to become a point of contention for a lot of players because of how difficult it can be to deal with a really good one.

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

I have terrible experience with the back scatter in tf2 because of it's 20%more bullet spread and tf2's unholy back hitbox

[@cristianovogt5586]

That's because the Backscatter sucks ass and it's Scout's worst primary, there is just no point in using it over any other Scout primary.

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

I completely agree with your statement

[@luigifan4585]

more like the non-backstab back hitboxes are just less forgiving in genreal

[@ayaxmcgill635]

Fun fact, it's called the ambassador because it's the representative of regular FPS games, since it can't do random crits and only does headshots crits

[@Holy_Grapefruit]

"You have to be pretty jacked to wield that thing" Heavy: ...

[@Seb-Storm]

8:13 I always find hilarious when he makes that reference

[@jeddyboy1291]

5:55 fliegerfaust, hand held AA weapon, and the one before was a panzerfaust, a hand help disposable AT weapon

[@RevolutionaryOven]

I'm telling you right now-- you're gonna need more than one episode to cover all the illogical weapons lol

[@KumaoftheForest]

Or hats

[@judsongaiden9878]

The China Lake repeating launcher is also called "EX-41" and "Natic." Not entirely sure about this, but its full name might be "China Lake EX-41 Natic." As for the Backscatter, it's double drum is probably based on the MG-42 or (except those use belt canisters rather than drums, but we're going by aesthetics). Or was it the MG-34 that used those double belt canisters? [[researches]] It's both. 0:17 / 9:02 It's based on the Sage Deuce but with retro aesthetics. 1:37 Here's how to make that legit. Make it work like a real lever-action. Ditch the tube. Have it feed from box mags or drums (no double-drums) on the left side w/right-side ejection. And give it some kind of stock. Maybe a skeleton stock just to be different. Btw, the name "Backscatter" MIGHT be a reference to 'The Thing' (1982). 2:14 In the commentary to T2: Special Edition, James Cameron mentions that it's a 10-gauge, so it might have been a Winchester 1901. Or did they make the 1887 in 10-gauge? 2:19 Large-loop levers aren't really made to be spin-cocked. They're intended to be more comfortable to use with gloves (like the kind ranchers wear) than standard levers. The guns used by Arnie (there were several) had the lever modified and the trigger guard removed. Not all of them, though. At one point, he grabbed the wrong gun and almost broke his finger, so he must have grabbed one that still had a trigger guard. 3:42 It's based on the COP-357 quad-barrel pepperbox Derringer. Wait, does that count as a pepperbox? It has a stationary barrel cluster and a rotating firing pin. 3:47 Also in The Matrix: Reloaded. 7:51 It's dumb. Completely wasted potential. Doesn't affect capacity or reload method. 8:12 Classic reference! XD Looks like its aesthetics are based on the Winchester 1897 Trench Gun. 9:18 Why didn't they make it triple-barrel since it holds three? 10:03 EX-41 11:08 But can you differentiate by sight, even if only given a split-second, the difference between an AKMS and a Zastava M70? 12:31 There are no shotguns that use helical-feed drums like that, but they've hybridized some design concepts into what some might call an "Amalgamate." Basically, they took one of those fancy newfangled rotary multi-tube autoloaders and spliced it together with something like a PP-19 Bizon. 15:38 Of course, they'd have to leave the stock perma-folded. Unfold that stock, greenhorn! 17:39 Why's the bore so huge compared to the rounds? 17:40 The mass under the barrel is called an underlug. But here's a question to bake yer noodle. If it's one of those inverted revolvers with a low-axis barrel, and if it that type of weighted mass, would it be called an "overlug?" Like Vash the Stampede's revolver. 17:57 Taurus makes several "Raging" revolvers, including one in .30 Carbine called the "Raging Thirty." It's an 8-shooter. 20:07 Part of what makes the 1887 unique, even compared to other lever-action shotguns (like the Adler A110), is that it's not a standard lever-action. It's a lever-action rolling block. That's why the receiver is so short.

[@cinnamoncat8950]

This video was great, i was pleasantly surprised with the quality of both the commentary and the background footage, the person playing us clearly really good, im guessing at least a a thousand hours. Interesting thing to know about tf2, the sniper is only long range class in the game. There are some ways for other classes to deal decent damage at long range, but its usually situational or difficult to do, while sniper deals incredible damage at long range always and simply by shooting them with a hitscan weapon. This is why most maps arent extremely open, to stop the snipers from having sight of the entire map and sniping everyone without having any contest, of course there are some open areas, but the good maps also make sure to have flank routes that lets someone take out an oppressive sniper.

[@PaulMeixnerFilms]

Thanks, we appreciate your feedback and input, cheers!

[@dragonmster4473]

The beggars lore is legit that Soldier made it himself out of trash

[@justinkam9729]

"They're loading 3 rounds in the bottom barrel" Me: Welcome to Team Fortress 2. After 9 years in development, we hope it will have been worth the weight. Protip: Play on private servers like Uncletopia to avoid bots.

[@DJRainbowToxic]

no wonderland and blackwonder is better.

[@rostastepanek5542]

Tf2 is not a shooter. Its a hat simulator

[@JohnLouviere-wz3qi]

It’s and outfit trading simulator

[@BastosFC2]

Wright has to have the smoothest transition from military to youtuber

[@DragonxFlutter]

The Beggar's Bazooka was _literally_ built from scrap, lol. | The Tomislav is a Slavic Tommy. Tommy-Slav. | The Widowmaker was originally made as part of a cross-promotion with a futuristic cyberpunk style game (Deus Ex: Human Revolution), so it's not completely in-line with the original aesthetic.

[@gabrielgiron4273]

Read the healer's name at 6:24 😂

[@thomaspunt2646]

Team Fortress 2 players always seem to have either the best or the worst gamer tags.

[@spoonerman]

was looking if somebody else noticed

[@nshnishi]

Starts imitating english russian accent **Proceeds to use italian hand gesture**

[@LordAnubisGaming]

This game is equal parts insanity, comedy, cartoon, and brutality lol. Giving me flashbacks to LazyPurple and SoundSmith’s comedic videos lol. Also shout outs to both of them for being an absolute amazing funny people with their TF2 vids.

[@gottagofastfaster]

Yeah about brutality I think this community forgot about it's violence. Lazypurple is just a loud and funny youtuber he makes good animation but when it comes to humor it's not good.

[@ToxicDeer]

The Loch-N-Load makes sense cause you load 1 pellet in which goes to the top barrel and the other two stay below and then when one is fire the other ones go up. BOOM MADE IT MAKE SENSE!!!!!!

[@DissedRedEngie]

4:13 volley fire is probably the best explanation for short stop. As it shoots 4 pellets/shots per shot. But to make it work, you'd have to bring some of that soldier rocket launcher magic. But if you want to go even more technical, scout shoots snake shot from shot stop. Snake shot being a shotgun shell for pistols to shoot at snakes. But scout having only 4 pellets in one shot. The morale of the story. Why do you care this much about a cartoon gun?

[@DissedRedEngie]

About the panic attack. It used to work like beggar's bazooka. You load it, then everything gets fired. In that concept, the front magazine extension made somewhat sense.

[@DissedRedEngie]

Three things about demoman, he makes his own explosives. He's so drunk, that he can use his organs to distill alcohol (seriously, giving him normal food and water destroys him). Due to balance chances, the stock weapon holds 4 shots and 3 in loch and load.

[@ToolboxMotley]

8:11 "shoulder thing that goes up". XD Ah, gun control referential humor. Love it.

[@Skullhawk13]

Gun control in theory is excellent. In practice they tend to ban safety features that look scary rather than actually…you know, Control who has guns.

[@GridDweller77]

love seeing these guys trying to rationalize these weapons when we have things like the scatter gun that reloads via shell ejection and divine intervention.

[@michaellatner975]

Fun fact about the Beggars Bazooka, it's called that because the character Soldier ended up making it out of literal trash. So essentially it's a hobo's rocket launcher. You can overload the thing and it will explode the rockets in the chamber.

[@PaulMeixnerFilms]

Awesome, thanks for the info!

[@ft_lesserchungus1192]

“it seems like all the action in this game is up close and personal” CLEARLY you’ve never played tf2

[@samdaman2939]

The backscatter does double damage from behind which is why it’s called the backscatter.

[@esthermontalvo3467]

17:29 That woman on the Ambassador is actually Scouts mother

[@meatbaIls]

>has two barrels >puts three rounds in the bottom barrel >shoots from the top barrel >FIRES THREE SHOTS

[@cristianovogt5586]

I love how those guys thought the Back Scatter is a good gun compared to the Shortstop since, in reality, Back Scatter is easily THE worse Scout's primary weapon while Shortstop is somewhat decent.

[@burnerheinz]

I still miss the old shortstop

[@hahrf_0149]

Its good for flanking, and that's about it...

[@cristianovogt5586]

@@hahrf_0149 Nah, if you wanna flank, use Stock or Soda popper. The Shortstop is good if you wanna mid-range Scout.

[@markmathis9616]

I don't know if it deserves "worst" when baby face exists, where you can't even jump without handicapping your speed.

[@cristianovogt5586]

@@markmathis9616 Well here is the thing, buddy. Do you even know how the backscatter works? The idea for this weapon is for you to flank with it, this weapon does mini crits when you shot the enemy from the back to deal the most among the damage possible, and...that's it. You do very low damage when shooting anyone in any direction but in their backs...while the Baby blaster or the scattergun allows you to do high damage no matter where you shot as long as you're close enough. Plus, on KZbin, there is a lot of videos showing how Baby's face blaster can be used effectively, sure you lose most of your boost if you DOUBLE jump or take 25 of damage but with the right weapons you can get that boost back. In my opinion. The ranking for all of Scout's primaries would be like. Top 1-Scattergun and Soda popper. Top 2-Force of Nature and Baby's face Blaster and Shortstop. Top 3-Backscatter. Because honestly, there is just no reason for you to use the backscatter, not even for a meme weapon, it's just so useless and bad.

[@KingKayro87]

These guys are so enamored with the the idea of the Back Scatter, but unbeknownst to them the weapon is straight up dogshit.

[@devilishjester7718]

When he said that Taurus has questionable quality i just remembered that time they had to recall a bunch of guns because they would fire if you shook them hard enough

[@madstellaris3176]

being caught in your explosion in TF2 is a staple gameplay mechanic every Soldier main must know how to use.

[@delcaprascalar1860]

1:01 "Multiplayer competition game" Competition Competition Competition... * Flasbacks of the competitive mode update*

[@williambenz9335]

Their reaction to that spy crab is funny.

[@novanoir8309]

06:30 He's talking about metal storm weapons system, you can look it up on youtube, kinda cool

[@kiripaka1289]

my favorite backscatter story is that one time i sat down on the toilet-

[@denizplays1307]

YES!!! This is what I have been waiting for!!! Also Israel and Paul should react some custom weapons by the TF2 community on the steam workshop, there are so many cool weapons with cool, funny or realistic looks or the crazy, cool or creative stats for the custom weapons! Would love to see a 2nd video of it!!!

[@phantomkillerprime8444]

"Is there any long range?" No, unless you're playing sniper then it's all long range until a spy or scout show up.

[@cristianovogt5586]

Demoman kinda is a long/mid-range class because of his projectiles.

[@MrStrikecentral]

You guys need to do a reaction to the TF2 Meet the Team videos. That would be GREAT!

[@nintendoallstarsstuffies]

It’s called a rare endangered spy crab: 9:26

[@dyllonbarker1744]

that multibarrel rocket launcher is called a fliegerfaust, it was a German antiair unguided rocket launcher, with the caliber being 20mm

[@Pyrotf277]

when the loch-n-load was presented the spy was spycrabing

[@darthcerebus]

Definitely need a Killzone series breakdown for the real life/futuristic weapon style mash-ups for how much they might be able to work

[@CordChomp]

They dont know how bad the backscatter is lmao

[@PaulMeixnerFilms]

I have recently learned this from the comment section! Ha ha

[@cristianovogt5586]

Yeah, it's funny how they thought the Back Scatter is good and that the Shortstop is bad. While in reality, the Back Scatter is easily the worst Scout's primary while the Shortstop is decent but not very good.

[@smolslashersoul]

this is really cool! i hope you guys make a part 2 where you react to some of the pyro class's weapons as most of their weapons are homemade (even the melee!)

[@PenciltipWorkshop]

show these guys the guns from Enter the Gungeon. They will have a field day with that game.

[@williamhepworth6360]

4:55 I think this is actually supposed to be shotgun shot, as for some bizarre reason the short stop is a shotgun.

[@blackjacka.5097]

I mean, the guy making shit at home just recreates real designs. The Panzerfaust and Fliegerfaust

[@zan6102]

3:30 so the back scatter is very up close compared to other weapons, as it is a shotgun and shotgun range in games tends ti be drastically shorter. The interesting part of the weapon is that it deals extra damage when shooting an enemy's back

[@ZeroDuckThirty]

Getting to the Widowmaker shotgun reminds me: It was styled after the Widowmaker TX shotgun from Deus Ex: Human Revolution and I think you guys should definitely cover the weapons from Human Rev and Mankind Divided!

[@jehoiakimelidoronila5450]

The one he's describing at 5:53 is the fliegerfaust ("air fist" or something)

[@nika_0]

Gameplay was made by HI GPS, not Gamology. Only the item showcases were made by Gamology.

[@LaskyLabs]

Never expected The Living Daylights to get a reference in a video about TF2 Two of my favorite things!

[@PaulMeixnerFilms]

Did we just become best friends??

[@LaskyLabs]

@@PaulMeixnerFilms maybe.

[@MrLocurito]

some of the missing animations for some guns like the ambassador or the nades on a grenade launcher were scrapped on updates of the game, they made the game had less of that stuff to "run smoother" they failed to do that and removed cool animations

[@linkly9272]

oh? you think these weapons are weird? wait till you hear of the piss jar and giant comical mallet

[@cosmicneko7225]

i would love for more TF2 firearm reactions, the game has a lot of really fun weapons to look at, even the default weapons are pretty cool

[@tormendor8585]

5:52 Oh damn its a Fliegerfaust

[@ShapeSquishYT]

I would love to see them reacting to Planetside 2 weapons. Expecially New Conglomerate and Terran Republic weapons as they are the one more grounded in reality.

[@smoltanker]

That would be fun

[@gearhooves5996]

7:00 funny enough, the Beggar's Bazooka in cannon is something the soldier made out of garbage, so canonically it's literal trash

[@EverythingZen01]

I wanna see them react to the 'Meet The' series

[@sunkfnf2406]

3:20 Yes, TF2 is usually short to mid range. When I said usually, *I meant it.* There is *1* class in the game that can do long range damage. That's the Sniper. Sniper is also the most hated class in the game because of that reason.

[@BlackmagikTF2]

As a tf2 player, seeing more and more tf2 content brings me a smile everytime