GAN is in SERIOUS Trouble

[@UK_Cuber]

Leave a comment to let me know what you think about GAN!

[@MGLcuber]

Bro the gan 12 is an amazing release you can’t just clickbait because of your personal opinion also tymon uses the 12 because the 14 maglev pro is too fast and it doesn’t fit his turning style. Matty on the other side has a turning style that fit the gan 14 maglev pro so not all the gan sponsored people are using the 12

[@user-jc1pd6nq1w]

too expensive

[@papuholo9924]

The 13, 14 and 14 pro are almost the same, the 12 is the best in my opinion, more inexpensive and very good, so good that so much world record has been broken

[@inseminggd9435]

​@@MGLcuber thats not clickbait? gan is in trouble, cause as you said the 12 is great but its from 2021, which would mean that they havent made a good 3x3 release since then also matty is sponsored by gan and uses the 14 pro, and thats about it. all the other gan sponsorees use the 12 or a different cube

[@SotoCube]

Need to keep up with the ball core and make prices appropriate.

[@HoyaMethodUser69]

GAN is 2016-2021: Mcqueen in Cars 1 GAN in 2022 - 2024: Mcqueen in Cars 3

[@UK_Cuber]

Haha

[@TurboToaster574]

GAN is fading! GAN is fading! Fading fast!

[@AlvinLiuCubing]

@@TurboToaster574underrated comment

[@christophermancilla1862]

Low taper fade

[@Nawfal_Ahmed]

All kings eventually fall , so a stronger one rises

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, that definitely seems to be happening here.

[@Nawfal_Ahmed]

@@UK_Cuber Yep, and its a little sad

[@RafaCuber]

In my opinion, only the gan 11 and 12 are worth buying in 2024

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, that's definitely a common opinion. They're so much cheaper and pretty much do the same as their newer cubes.

[@Tugg_on_a_segway101]

I really like the 356 series and wish they bring then back

[@thetwistedcube]

Honestly, cubes depend on your turning style or your sponsor at this point lol.

[@Redx9879]

I like the 13 better than the 12 and I don’t know why I think it is because of my turning

[@cubedcommunities_mn3242]

I still main the Gan 12. I’m enjoying the Gan 14 Maglev Pro but probably won’t compete with it.

[@WillCuber100]

1 year ago, I hated moyu, qiyi.... but now, they are honestly taking over the market.

[@UK_Cuber]

Same to be honest. Weird how quickly it can change

[@balusters]

They reached their peak with the 12. Now they look like they're focusing on their budget cubes. And moyu is now focusing on creating more expensive ones. Looks like they're switching places.

[@ryneiscool]

Since when did Gan start focusing on budget cubes? all of the budget cubes they have are terrible, like the Gan M E

[@balusters]

@@ryneiscool they also have swift block and the monster . I really think they're trying to be affordable. They're all awful tho

[@I-am-a-trash-cuber]

I mean ik it isn’t actually budget but the 356 maglev has some good tech in for a decent price that’s masically the same as some flagship

[@Most-Random_Noob]

@@ryneiscoolSwift Block, Monster Go

[@kevinwang7894]

It’s not all about the fancy features. Piece design also plays a huge part. I’ve personally used most of today’s flagship cubes and finally decided to get a GAN 12 to see why most top cubers are using it. Long story short, i definitely see why now. Yes, I have other cubes with similar features for cheaper. There are even cubes I think feel better, for example the YS3M. But honestly, in my opinion, nothing beats the GAN 12’s overall performance in today’s market. For most people at least. The WRM V10 for example, actually feels pretty similar to GAN. But it simply doesn’t have GAN’s performance. It locks up so much more. Don’t just take my word for it, so many people have said the same thing. GAN also has a unique feeling I cannot describe. Sure the WRM V10 feels similar, but it’s still not the same. As for material. The TV3 feels like milk carton plastic. YS3M feels like mahjong. But I can’t compare GAN’s plastic with anything. However, for cubers who can’t tell the difference, there is indeed no difference between a GAN 12 and a RS3M V5. So just get the cheaper one until you can tell the difference. It’s just like how it doesn’t make sense for a beginner to buy a 10k guitar. But for those who *can* tell the difference, it is indeed worth it. Honestly GAN isn’t doing anything wrong in terms of philosophy. They know who their market is. With that being said, they do need to make actual improvements instead of blindly adding more features. Also the recent update on their smart cube app is an abomination. I’m sure they can do better, especially when they’re charging three digits for their good smart cubes. MoYu should also stay in their lane unless they really know what they’re doing. I honestly think the wrist watch, super WeiLong, WRM V10, are all failures. They make amazing budget cubes and amazing big cubes. So stick to them. Unless they really find a way to manufacture “premium” cubes worth the price tag. There is nothing wrong with a company focusing on quality, and another focusing on quantity. Not all need to focus on both. Just make sure they’re done right and customers aren’t getting screwed over or milked. Don’t be Apple.

[@kori228]

interesting metaphor on the Tv3 feeling like milk carton plastic and the YS3M feeling like mahjong. Can you expand on that and if you have any descriptors for other cube lines like the RS3M or older Weilong cubes? and budget stuff like the Guhong, Meilong, Qiyi M Pro

[@auradr2776]

since when is the gan 12 a dissapointing release?

[@JohnAJ-07]

It had the catching issue

[@johnpantag472]

​@@JohnAJ-07it was literally for a month. I have the 12 it catches but it has literally has the highest tps potential insane self alignment and almost everyone uses it.

[@inseminggd9435]

@@johnpantag472 most people dont use the 12 and idk if it has the highest tps potential but fair

[@auradr2776]

@@inseminggd9435 like 16 out of the top 20 ppl use the 12

[@skwebjacob]

Nah most top cubers use the 12 it’s perfectly fine I think there might’ve been a few issues with the first few batches but now it’s definitely the best gan 3x3

[@aaryangothwal4793]

I think gan will make a comeback considering the gan 5x5 and the gan mega v2 (revealed after the gan 14) are being considered “best in the market” so i think there mightve been a regime change in the qc department or something.. i think the gan 15 *might* make a comeback in the 3x3 category as well (keyword *might* as i prefer moyu over gan any day)

[@kyyzh12]

A lot of my cuber friends got the gan 13 when it released. They said it was good but then they realized the other brands like dayan are much cheaper and still really goood lol

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, the cubes are still good... but cubes are getting cheaper now!

[@MinhHien091]

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[@solver5k]

GAN makes the best Mirror Blocks.

[@davinkeee]

that is undoubtable

[@TheCubingGrandmaster]

well it's the only magnetized one

[@ainsleycailipan2005]

I feel like gan is trying to make a brand about being more luxurious and more innovative in a drawback of not as good performing and being expensive as being luxurious. GREAT BANGER ONCE AGAIN KEEP IT UP🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@InfinitySpeedcuber]

The Gan 11 Pro Seems like a good option for me. Next weekend, I am going to a competition, and hopefully someone lets me try out their 11 Pro

[@InfinitySpeedcuber]

@CarrotTheConqueror yeah, I’ll try out some gan cubes at the comp and I’ll decide which one to buy

[@owenhunter9916]

I literally just ordered the gan 11 m pro being new to solving these cubes, I’ve been using a cheap 3x3 nexcube, any suggestions for future 3x3 cubes for me to try out?

[@yvus71]

My hope for gan is that the huge competition lately forces them to either a. make better budget and mid-range cubes, b. vastly improve on their innovation for 3x3, or c. do what they did with 3x3 before with other events. all 3 are quite good for us consumers, so i wouldn't worry

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah that makes sense. Not sure they’d ever make a cheap budget cube though!

[@cuburr.]

3:43 small tip, you can do that pair rotationless

[@cubinb]

I have both the Gan 12 Leap and Maglev, but there's nothing compelling me to even look at the 14.

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, same

[@penguinyen645]

Yiheng wang, ruihang xu, and matty hiroto inaba are using the 14 (and max is possibly switching too)

[@Usuario01997]

but they are world class, they can control it

[@cubosscom]

Bilbo if he was a cuber: I don't like half of gan cubes half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of their cubes half as well as they deserve.

[@curiousNic]

I'm not worried about GAN. The 5x5 was highly hyped and received very good reviews. The same is likely to happen with the new 4x4 and the Square-1. It's smart of them to diversify their product line, especially as I don't expect too many groundbreaking new innovations with 3x3s in general at this point. Plus, I assume that the GAN 12 still sells pretty well. It's the total sales that count and not just the sales of one product (and we actually don't have any sales numbers for the GAN 14).

[@SuperDominicS]

Yeah. Although im unaware of the quality of their 3x3s, they pretty much have enough releases to the point where it would be harder to improve steadily with the new releases and have a major benefit. But there's pretty much nothing really going on in some other wca's, like their megaminx v2 is currently the best by a lot compared to the other options like dayan pro, and from what I can tell there are only a couple relevant square-1s atm, so it would just make sense to make something that would sell and be good quality in that regard. I hope gan would eventually try to be a bit more diverse then wca, but I think going for other categories as simpler major releases would be better then another 3x3..

[@Savethepandabears]

😂 hey look we found the Gan fanboy😂

[@harleyofallthings]

The last gan I bought was an I carry, and that was because it was a cheap smartcube with an okay-ish app.The last non-smartcube I bought from them was a 356 X. However, other cubing competitors undercut them so much it makes no sense to go into the top-end gan. They have done really bad recently and given all the bad press over their newest cubes and the issues with them, I have been hard pressed to actually purchase a gan. That high price is no longer justified and I hope they will either come out with a new innovation or start competing on a better price.

[@mihailomitrovic4398]

I literally ordered GAN 12 this morning! And now this video shows up 😂 I've been using Tornado v3 and I think that nobody can build a better cube, EVER. But, wanted to try Tymon's, so I will give it a chance 😅

[@UK_Cuber]

The 12 is still great! It's the newer cubes which haven't been as good

[@speedcubingdotorg]

Well I am glad that they are actually releasing other cubes at the moment, while MoYu release an endless stream of good 3x3s, Gan just released a 5x5 and their 2x2 and skewb are still probably the best on the market

[@harlequinfoxgothmaidboybellatr]

If Gan are to survive they need to look at diversity in the product range, its ok being a one trick pony but megaminx etc would definitely sell more and so would Gan brand lubes as a few people have said. The 3x3 market is saturated and the other markets just need the innovation that Gan brings and maybe they could open up new avenues like a Gan square 1 or a Gan Puppet Cube and get more people into the other side of cubing as well. And they need consistent quality control as well

[@7sf_is_better]

UK Cuber: Gan is failing Me: What about the GAN 562?

[@skwebjacob]

And the skewb And the new mega And the new 4x4/squan that are coming next lol

[@christophermancilla1862]

In 3x3 they are falling

[@thedog3510]

Gan has been the only company inovating cubes ( or at least innovations which makes them better) for years now and I think gan will come up with new tech again to make there cubes better and they may consider a lower price range.

[@SlimTimbo]

I honestly think they’ll start focusing on non 3x3 puzzles and just make cheaper increments from here on out

[@Ottok20]

Maybe gan could invest more in lubes. Gan doesn't have that many lubes in the game, and I think that it would be nice to see Gan making better lubes.

[@estevanlujan7059]

Personally, I don’t think GAN is failing or declining at all. Even though there 3x3’s haven’t been the best in the past couple of years, the recognition of their brand even outside of cubing is massive. And like you mentioned the release of other events is very well received as the puzzles themselves are performing phenomenally. I think the real question is if cube manufacturers should move away from innovation and focus on performance. As over the years I feel like 3x3’s haven’t really improved since 2018 and just made slight improvements and innovations to accommodate the other features of the puzzles. I think consumers would happily purchase a well performing cube with little to no adjustment features rather than one that overcomplicates their product for the sake of innovation.

[@rolandmarkus6188]

GAN 15 seriously needs a great ballcore to bring the GAN 3x3 back on the wishlists of cubers. I love the GAN feel and probably my favorite cube is the 12. But I have a WRM v10 coming next week which was described by many as the most GAN feeling cube Moyu has ever made. Also it has very positive feedback. I have an RS3M V5 and surely that cube is perfect apart from it lacks the GAN feel. I also own the Tornado V3 and eventhough it is described as one of the best cubes ever I still prefer the Gan 12 and V5 over it. If the V10 lives up to what the reviews say it will probably be my new favorite unless GAN really comes up with something special in the 15. But even then the price could be a huge drawback. In an ideal world the GAN 15 should be a revamped ball core GAN 12 with the current price of the GAN 12 and probably that cube would literally take over the marked in a blink of an eye.

[@Uminguss]

The newer gan releases are great I tried the gan 11, 12, 13 and they are all great especially the 13 and I don't have the 14 and 14 pro yet but I heard the normal 14 has a popping problem so that one might be bad but I think I will like the 14 pro because I like really fast cubes with strong magnets like the 13

[@randynguyen5897]

I’m my opinion, the 14 pro is way better than the regular because they reduced popping but it’s more expensive. Oh and you need a tool to get the centre cap out. I recommend sticking with your current cubes.

[@hasandinan2213]

Should I buy moyu weilong wr m v10 classic or moyu rs3m v5 maglev?

[@VelocityCubes]

"Tymone"💀

[@pingliu8382]

I was thinking the same thing

[@kori228]

they need to take a break from yearly releases

[@moonlightcubing7]

Matty is switching mains because the GAN 15 prototype is better than the GAN 12 (well in his opinion)

[@randynguyen5897]

Gan cubes are just getting worse

[@brandiepop]

i mean no wonder theyve moved on to other events

[@inseminggd9435]

i think gan made a really high bar for each of their releases, like way too high and until 2021 they were consistently getting there, but theres a point where its really tough to keep innovating, and i think they got there now. but they also have some responsibility in their downfall, with the needing to release a second version of the 14, and the second version itself. apart from that, though, they seem to start getting somewhere now. the gan 356 maglev isnt very popular, but its somewhat competitive with other cubes at that price, and its better than other gan releases that are double the price. and ofc we cant ignore the 562 and the maglev mega, both arguably the best, and at kinda fair prices if you ask me so yeah gan had its downfall but its starting to get back, but maybe not as high as before

[@weirdfish09]

Other companies are trying their best on the smart cube market, yet GAN is still the best. Their smart cube are quality based and the app is more convenient than others because the app is suited for global. I think with the smart cubes, GAN still has hope.

[@Speedcubenz]

Re 3x3 they’ve been in the weeds since the Gan 12 I reckon.

[@EddieCubing]

I think the 14 was quite good tbh

[@FriskyPotat0]

Gan12 is a certified goat, the only cubes that are anywhere near it performance wise (for me of course) are the rs3m v5 and weilong v10. But yes, 13, 14 and 14 pro have all been reasonably weak releases, so I think if either the price doesn't go down or the performance at LEAST equal that of the 12, then yes they shouldn't bother with 3x3s (or spend more than a year actually developing new tech)

[@Hayden-v5o]

Will gan still make cubes

[@I292B]

Yiheng wang is using both 12 and 14 pro

[@yasirperwez73]

I think the gan 13 is a underrated release i like it more then gan 12 some how

[@UK_Cuber]

Interesting, I think a lot of people prefer the 12 but fair enough!

[@i6qac]

@@UK_CuberI’m getting a gan 11m pro can u tell me the pros and cons and if it’s better then the 14/13?

[@Fun_Cube_Master]

I think Gan cubes like the 251 pro are very good and will be still used BUT no new cubes will be used

[@UK_Cuber]

Unless they make something that’s actually innovative.

[@Fun_Cube_Master]

@@UK_Cuber I honestly think that the next time they make a new groundbreaking cube then moyu or another brand will’ve come up with a genius mechanism

[@ayanami_ayn]

I'm hoping for a YJ Appari review soon on ur channel ❤

[@-BlueX]

Gan sent the cubes to you guys purely for testing so it's not because their are insecure or whatever, them sending you guys the cubes are meant for them to find mistakes and fix them before releasing it to the public.

[@Aden-cx6tu]

its so true i tried the gan 14 and it felt so flimsey it was like no corner edge magnets, i hope the gan 15 will be so much better then the gan 14 and the 13, the 12 was the last good gan cube pls gan 15 be better than the 14 pls pls

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah same, they’ve got to make something good this year!

[@TheCuber500]

Gan’s peak was at the 12 no other gan is worth it

[@UK_Cuber]

I agree

[@TheCubingGrandmaster]

maybe they should really just be like qiyi, wait patiently, just like how the tornado v4 will come after a long time. like dont do yearly releases (?)

[@AviationEdition1]

I think that GAN will lose the 3x3 market, except for smart cubes.

[@tangarz5357]

You haven’t seen the state of cube station. It got rid of years of solves for me. In-depth solve break downs by cfop are gone. Crashes all the time. And have the time I can’t log in. They have gotten a tone of 1 star reviews on the App Store. With no response for Gan anywhere.

[@gggghnnjhhg7526]

MoYu>>>>Gan

[@UK_Cuber]

Just 1 year ago I would’ve disagreed… but know I think you’re right.

[@flavored_1]

Personally really like the 14 pro

[@HectorLai-qy9gv]

I think they should be like gan12

[@mhdhsein5569]

What is the best value cube you can recommend?

[@UK_Cuber]

Either the Tornado V3 or WRM V10

[@mhdhsein5569]

Thank you

[@Usuario01997]

gan needs to stay alive because if it dies moyu will not have a brand to copy

[@UK_Cuber]

Haha, does seem like that!

[@itzecuber]

5x5 saved them

[@ia.speedcubing]

Great video congrats, I agree with you, can I make a similar video but in Spanish, thanks bro

[@UK_Cuber]

Thanks, yeah go for it. Just make sure you're video isn't a direct copy!

[@ia.speedcubing]

@@UK_Cuber I'll make sure lol thanks

[@FCCubing275]

3:27 what website is this? And also gan hasnt changed a lot since the 11 m pro which is a majot reason why gan is falling down And i think that gan has 2 option cook up and release a masterpiece OR release the same cube

[@marcinpikalski2039]

The accent is on Ty, not mon ;). TYmon, not tyMON

[@yourface4896]

GAN your cooked

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, for real.

[@timorweiss6043]

goated

[@tryhardfighter1833]

Well, the 12 is still as great as ever, but well, that cube is 3 years old.

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, exactly

[@yeeyyeey6259]

gan rn is overpriced and shitty, i feel like only products that are good is the 11m pro and the 12m maglev. otherwise get moyu, qiyi, dayan or other brands.

[@Tugg_on_a_segway101]

21 views in 6 mins? bro fell off

[@DungVu-pu4cf]

My love for gancube wouldn't change, yet i still hate the 13 and 14, and i'm manage to find a brand new gan air sm 2 months ago amd now i still using it instead of my rs3m v5 and the wrm v9