Gang patch ban: Members warn of potential for violence to 'erupt' as new laws enforced | RNZ

[@MWPaora]

I'm Maori & ex patched member, absolutely nothing is positive reasoning to allow this culture to continue in Nz. Change needs to start somewhere. The ban is good and works in Queensland. It's awesome to never see patches around.

[@br5500]

I hate how New Zealand media reports on gang members like they're not violent criminal anarchist. This whole video seems like a sob story for gangs, using Maori culture as a reason

[@Raw-i7h]

@@br5500 media know it's a cash cow story. Gang culture is famed or infamous superstar pop culture. Media and the interviewee out to make a dollar.. the click on boyzz.

[@alandrummond5890]

Rnz pretty left leaning so anti this government

[@cognoscenti2011]

RNZ is filled with vile Marxist trash... That's why

[@outlawproductions1280]

They're not Your just weak lil bit@h who put his head down and keep his internet warrior mouth closed in front of any of them cause your raised a pus@y obviously the same mana you picked up from pitiful weak parents

[@johnr3150]

I get sick of these gangsters trying to mix up gang culture with Māori culture to try and legitimise wearing these patches. It’s nothing to do with Māori culture although unfortunately it’s ingrained in many communities.

[@PKB239]

It's all about excuses and avoiding any kind of reasonable behaviour or accountability. Like how they pretend theyre all about sandwiches and whanau, yet news reports of inter-gang, intra-gang, and random violence and murders are everywhere. Let's all pretend patches and behaviour aren't an issue and it's everyone else's fault.

[@jesuschrist7169]

Both are scum

[@hokiangawaiwhata5418]

You must be a david semen member then cause it has everything to do with culture rock the patch all day everyday

[@GHOSTDIVISION39]

What culture?

[@Badest187]

@@GHOSTDIVISION39indian

[@KINGSFORDLIFE]

Drive by shootings at homes were kids sleep, that little 2 year old who died on the couch because of a gang retaliation, her life stolen her parents and whanau shattered and for what over colours.

[@crazfulla]

No that's usually over some beef between members. I have no idea in any one specific case. But if this is what people want to avoid then the patch ban needs to be reversed.

[@msbuilding2806]

Puriri street Wanganui, I lived just a handful of houses down the road from where that happened. My brother used to be friends with Hayden Wallace who took the wrap

[@TheSunofGod-j1g]

What " Culture " do Mongrel Mob represent , as one of New Zealand's biggest amphetamine dealers .💀

[@charlieb9064]

Criminal culture.

[@BlackSlimShady]

The culture of intimidating old ladies down at the Four square

[@Raw-i7h]

@@TheSunofGod-j1gaurahing , meth and 2 million govt funding to them to rehab it.. circle of life .- lion king . Walt Disney.

[@BigChilla420]

All the same products pharmaceutical companies push cannabis included now

[@wizard621]

Biggest game of real life Chinese whispers, I'm sure the club was made with good intentions then it just went all over the place.. 😂 @@Raw-i7h

[@St4rOfD4vid]

I’m Māori there’s nothing to be proud about a patch that’s not our identity we need to do better and show better for our kids and their kids and so on.I got family on both sides I moved away for a better life and I’m happy I made the move for my family.

[@MrRdpn]

Same here my friend

[@Raw-i7h]

Kaupapa pono bro. Fruitfulness, or fruitlessness.

[@danielezekielsmith674]

The government Criminals with their gang of police and army still discriminate against us and still harass and try to oppress Maori

[@NPC22WOO]

yozaa ahahah

[@alexanderstainton3199]

I'm worried with powers to bust into a home based on a potentially patch based assumptions will impact non gang members too:'(.

[@Bebedollie]

I grew up around that chapter. It was horrible and bad things happened to me and my girl cousins.

[@petra2366]

So sorry to hear that. Hope the people responsible where brought to justice.

[@JRodUltra85]

​@@petra2366 People never are till it's too late because of lack of evidence and people are scared to speak up I know I've been in situations

[@michaelgardiner6629]

Taking patches won't change anything sadly towards that abuse

[@charlieb9064]

My good friend grew up in a gang family and him and his young cousins were preyed on by one of the uncles. They all turned a blind eye to it. Sick culture.

[@Raw-i7h]

@@Bebedollie unfortunately minor parties and the likes sympathize with offenders not victims of Maori crimes.. - Shane Jones.

[@08SATINI]

I’m Māori . I think this is a good law. Patches are intimidating and is not a korowai.

[@UPTHEWAHSDAY1]

Our culture? That aint a korowai uncle

[@Raw-i7h]

@@UPTHEWAHSDAY1 uncle rawiri doesn't acknowledge the difference either. A real Korowai and cuzzy korowai.

[@KINGSFORDLIFE]

I see aging hasn't brought wisdom with these two, still living in the past, Many Kaumātua have said patches are not korowai and to adopt the swastika and phrase Sieg Heil is disrespectful to the soldiers of the Māori battalion who went to war.

[@Raw-i7h]

@@KINGSFORDLIFE it's called maori cultures fate, it was inevitable. . Native American warriors saying, leave the fallen where they fell, onward and upward. Live.

[@BIG_STORS]

What's disrespectful was fighting a war and coming home to land being confiscated and not being able to get a pension for fighting now that's disrespectful our use of the swastika was a fuck you to the crown that's why we place a German ww2 helmet on a British bulldog and our surnames changed to loose our titles to land but hey what would I know I'm just a disrespectful gang member another statistic in the system

[@sheila9372]

Its disrespectful to ALL NZ soldiers

[@nnaheim.]

Screw these gangs, you aint tough, try being a single father working 60hrs a week to pay a mortgage and feed and clothe kids, try that for a week losers

[@darealone4480]

True stuff, as Robert De Niro said in the mafia film the Bronx Tale "The working man is the tough guy"

[@Kiwi-LSA]

Well said

[@mrnocap346]

😂😂

[@RoseBlack-n7v]

Hey brother in all fairness you haven't even been to visit any, 'gang' and take a freshly made Rewana to offer very basic humanitarian courtesy. You can't offer any negative opinion until you have at least greeted them properly. ❤

[@RoseBlack-n7v]

​@@Kiwi-LSA Oh ! You mean the man obeying the system obeying like a sheep from nine to five .. so a man is goes along with the companies is a man of decency... ? Be grateful the gangs keep us awake to the systems enslavement

[@Kiwi-LSA]

A 70 year old man still in a street gang ffs what a role model 😂

[@ChelleMEis]

Sad state of it.

[@rotangmulisha6692]

Id love to see you say that to my uncle's face. Is that something you willing to do? Or are another one whom just runs there mouth without actually attaining any knowledge? Just curious?

[@Shredwacka]

​@rotangmulisha6692 attaining knowledge of what? That the gang deals in drugs,crime,violence? What exactly should us,the law abiding people of New Zealand that have proper jobs and families that dont need to sell drugs and use violence to live,what knowledge do we need to know about these stupid gangs,what do gangs contribute to our society that is a positive??

[@cognoscenti2011]

Exactly the problem with gangs... Your reply is a Neanderthal response which instantly resorts to violence and aggression. Nice life fail..... ​@@rotangmulisha6692

[@Kiwi-LSA]

@@rotangmulisha6692 why the fuk would I waist my time!

[@UltimateSkidz]

when did your culture become gang culture?

[@13Doses]

Fat Maori riding around with Leather vests to hide their man boobs. Copied american culture.

[@seansalter1679]

Culture is always changing and evolving

[@calmminds2065]

@@seansalter1679 Then it can evolve back

[@Carlos-uo3fk]

when they realised it was easier to smoke a joint than go to school

[@d3n122036]

What do you think culture is? Its just a gang that grew really big.

[@mechanickiwi4116]

The IQ test came back negative.

[@Randymountaine]

Maori culture being tied with gangs is embarrassing, Maori culture should be about strong caring people, who don't need a patch or a gang because they are proud and confident within.

[@jackhodgson9895]

The gang was formed by EUROPEAN males...... white dudes...... But it's our culture???? So .000000001 percent of our indigenous population speak for us all?????

[@outback109]

A violent criminal playing the victim card.

[@leoniemccormack6245]

Catch us if you can

[@leoniemccormack6245]

Yet pedophiles roam the streets with impunity

[@damojames974]

Just like politicians..

[@petakarini7567]

Who introducedd Drugs in to newzealand alchohol, cars,cigaretts, wasnt Maoris but were all the Drunkards taking Drugs, Drunk Driving the very thing Introduced to Maori by Pakeha,.

[@jerrybow8779]

@@petakarini7567learn some self control! It’s only been 200 years

[@MikeJones-m6r]

This is what a privileged and protected class looks like.

[@skylark17]

A man at his age should have learned something by now about being your own man through overcoming the trials and tribulations of life not pushing a colour for a gang

[@LampoonGoon]

🏆AGREED!!!!

[@seblee2664]

Agree but unfortunately he will cease to live that way and will never see light at the end. Old man that hasn’t grown up!

[@Hup-cx5hp]

Gotta ask yaself Y are Maori joining gangs ??? Maybe that needs to be put forward in the house of corporations

[@barbaraknowles2713]

​@@Hup-cx5hpdrugs, sex, violence, gambling, etc. Its a lifestyle choice

[@Hup-cx5hp]

@barbaraknowles2713 fraud by a fraudulent government

[@djsamplegee]

imagine purposefully choosing a life of victimhood, must be exhausting

[@tanginicholls207]

Growing old is inevitable... Growing up is optional.

[@tearuruoterangi7861]

That's gotta sting a little 😂😂

[@PapamoaWest-r4q]

Way to drive a violent narrative RNZ. Maybe try to do something positive for Tangata Whenua. Do you know who are the biggest victims of gang violence? Māori, who are the biggest victims of gang deaths Māori. Māori are also the biggest group of theft and criminal activity. So it’s strange that you ignore the Māori victims but glorify the criminals?

[@MrRdpn]

Correct its been that way for 200+ years

[@PapamoaWest-r4q]

Haha ancient tribal disputes are now Harley Davidson riding gang disputes. There is definitely a deep rooted instinct to be part of something bigger than themselves, whanua, Iwi, Hapu and brotherhood. Just the collateral damage that accompanies it is taking its toll on the Māori communities. Just like 200 years ago

[@Kiwi-LSA]

​@@PapamoaWest-r4qgreat speech

[@MikeJones-m6r]

They're also the biggest perpetrators of those crimes. Funny how you leave that out.

[@ci2763]

Bro needs to get a job 30 years ago,, and instead of sitting around all day ,,,clean the house 🎉🎉🎉

[@craigcharteris7026]

Fix the rot in the house!

[@Atraa]

House actually looked pretty clean 😊

[@ci2763]

@Atraa that's what she said

[@carrolmakatea1224]

no gang patch is not part of our maori culture and never was. its a invention of some fucked up person or persons who decided to make their own rules.

[@HlllHIIIH]

Always playing the victim and denying the obvious truth. Grow up, take accountability and get a job. Not a good role model for your children aye

[@keetaepark3661]

Due to my dad' job and now my job, i lived in over 20 countries in my life. I learnt to respect their culture. However, never ever in any of those countries, gang members tried to justify their culture on the news lol Its not a church gathering or friend coming over. If your action distrub others, you gotta fix it to fit in the society. If you dont want to follow the rule, go to the wild and live with the animals.

[@bengutsell]

I find it threatening. It's signifying you have the potential for violence at anytime, are party to the drug trade, support organized crime and the worst types of abuse and trauma on the public.

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

Sounds like you need a testosterone boost

[@damojames974]

So you need the govt to choose your clothes and dress you?

[@MissPerpul]

I agree, the problem is though we won't know who they are anymore.

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

@@bengutsell grow some balls if you're not gang affiliated and just going about your business the gangs don't care about you

[@petakarini7567]

Youd find it threatening if your neighbours dog shits on your lAwn,...

[@jesssmith2064]

Kaore, a korowai is a korowai is not what our tupuna meant. Gang insignia is not equal. Won’t miss it, not the end of the world.

[@ProximaCentairi24]

Greens ...Labour and TPM will always put gangs before law abiding Kiwis. Build bigger jails...at least that protects the public.

[@raywheeler3135]

Hasn't worked in America but yeah why not...try something that's never worked anywhere and you're guaranteed to get a different result. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ProximaCentairi24]

@raywheeler3135 if gangs don't like a policy....all other citizens should support it.

[@laurateaho-white9654]

​​@ProximaCentairi24 I don't support things that don't work. I don't want this government to waste money on the fashion police. The majority of people commit crime when they are not wearing a patch. Removing a patch will not magically stop crime.

[@rubdchillyinmyeye3342]

RNZ gang sympathisers.

[@johnr3150]

Yep, Typical leftie woke bs from RNZ and TVNZ

[@SNeeBLee]

taking their patches wont change anything, the problem is what they do, not what they are wearing, taking their uniforms will just make it harder to identify them

[@MikeJones-m6r]

No, they're easy to spot lol. I know, I've lived among them my whole life.

[@BradArmstron9]

Harder? Most of them are covered in tattoos. The bikes, the flash cars, they dress in a certain way and have that jail swagger.

[@SNeeBLee]

@@BradArmstron9 so do alot of people, that dosnt automatically mean gang affiliation

[@BradArmstron9]

@@SNeeBLee Im going to assume you live in a good part of Auckland and have never really been around them. I lived 5 minutes up the road from the east auckland head hunter HQ so I know how they are.

[@SNeeBLee]

@@BradArmstron9 Henderson

[@kevd2448]

Thats not Maori culture

[@bronwenwilliams6953]

REMOVING THE PATCH, WILL NOT CHANGE THE PERSON OR ANYTHING FOR THAT MATTER.

[@Carlos-uo3fk]

It sends a clear message to gangsters, they are not wanted in society, and people don't want to see them on our streets, in our shops, or anywhere in public. Good Riddance!

[@PKB239]

Might make them feel a whole lot less supported when they can't tell who in a group is with or against them. Everyone gets tough when they think they're surrounded by support.

[@Hup-cx5hp]

@PKB239 maybe blessing in disguise for all NZ clubs , , 🤔

[@spiritualgeneral11]

The point is to have them spending more time in prison, it's an easy excuse for police to take out groups. Not that hard to understand

[@LONEWOLF78.]

Culture of crime, drugs, violence & abuse.

[@johnhepi3844]

I'm Maori, I get it not wanting patches being worn in public.

[@headmondronary2127]

Just because certain Maori claim the gangs are part of they're culture doesn't mean it is.

[@MikeJones-m6r]

The recent hikoi had gang members as a center piece lol.

[@MerleDoughty-yw6cl]

These people need to grow up, its like kids in little gangs except they are into illegal activities, it has nothing to do with culture. I have seen first hand guys putting on their leathers with their gang patch on thinking they are ten foot tall and bullet proof. Just grow up instead of living in some dream.

[@Carlos-uo3fk]

Yes exactly, its pathetic grown men doing skids on motorbikes, making hand signs, barking like dog, most people get over that when theyre like 10 years old

[@merledoughty5787]

@@Carlos-uo3fk and being intimidating to the public, mno respect for the law by doing stupid antics as you say burn outs and other anti social things that is what they are 1% anti social thugs, ever wonder how some get to buy these Harley,s, there is a gang culture of theft of these bikes, I have no time for their rubbish. There are motorcycle clubs out there who respetc the law like the HOG Owners, Honda Owners, I was in the Ulysses Club one of the best with great bunches of people from all walks of life, it did not matter what you rode just as long as it was a bike or even if you did not ride a car or a camper were welcomed. I rode many miles with great friends and enjoyed the rallies that each group put on. We have a logo Grow Old Disgracefully and also there was a big patch that could be sewn to the back of the jacket. The club administrators advise the members not to wear them anymore as it attracted the attention of these other 1% gangs, could cause trouble, I still have mine. Interestingly the Mongrel Mob was started by a group of white guys, I knew one of them he was a laugh, RIP Benny miss your antics in the club and now a Maori gang

[@kartyae]

The gangs will try to associate gang stuff with being Maori, the two are completely separate. Don't bring Te Ao Maori into your gang rubbish. Tihei Mauriora!

[@MikeJones-m6r]

Not trying. It's already been done. Patched gang members were walking at the front of the hikoi.

[@kartyae]

@@MikeJones-m6r Yeah walking in the hikoi is fine, protesting Maori business is fine, being Maori is fine, im saying don't connect your gang to Maori tikanga because they're not the same thing

[@L.budz.]

The sad part is that people think they need a patch to be somebody

[@kase8841]

Korowai my ass lol it aint about your children or your grandchildren.😂😂

[@Hup-cx5hp]

Labour n national know nothing of bill of rites hence the march

[@Freedom4UFreedom4every1]

If they are passports, I'd love to see him try to take that through an international airport lol

[@shaymason3728]

Idiot

[@user-FUCKYOU18]

It made it Australia & UK

[@NA-sj9jy]

You are lucky its just the patch, and not gangs banned.

[@hemisilbery3545]

Im māori, leave it at home & in the pads, not in public, as it draws attention to the opposing gangs, then the public get caught in the middle

[@tpatchie]

It’s not Korowai How insulting Grow up , Manaaki Tangata Lead with intelligence and integrity Not intimidation and violence

[@cameraop8210]

will they have to cover up the gang insignia tattoos with thin lizzy?

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

No they're not covered by the law

[@racquelgriffith1479]

Apparently that works 😂

[@craigcharteris7026]

With Susan Paul products lol

[@cameraop8210]

@@craigcharteris7026 remember the TV adverts song? Mobile, hair style.... with thin lizzy! could change the lyrics it so it goes... weight scale, plastic bags, bail papers, p.os contact card.... with thin lizzy!

[@steviet3995]

Like the majority of Australians, New Zealanders have had enough of these criminal gangs.

[@MrSupergtrr35]

Their behaviors are very much intimidating to peaceful community. One time, there were many gang bikers riding through Christchurch highway into city. Ridiculously loud exhaust, threatening and even children in the car got so scared 😢. Stupid to be proud of gangs.

[@skullfractal6642]

live a healthy ave loving life without harming others😊

[@stephenh3293]

If something is used to intimate people like weapons signs that can be offensive then that object can be banned to be displayed in public. A GANG PATCH does fit the bill. Sorry boys but that is just common law.

[@crazykiwican]

Build a lot more jails , chase the money , how did they pay for what they own ?? No more slaps on the hand. If wearing a patch sentence doubles

[@jamiemichealharris748]

Oh the poor gang members, such fine up standing members of the community providing violence and drugs to a community near you

[@peterm3964]

Deal meth ,go to jail . What is the problem . These clowns are violent small minded thugs. They are NOT kindly old grandpas .

[@michaelkissling8432]

It's a shame because innocent police will die throughout this campaign

[@50ftliveaboard]

You make every one fell intimidated witch is very unfair because everyone has rights to be safe.

[@princesssafira1]

Just how is this going to reduce the crime rate? Gangs is still going 2 do what thy want patch or no patch.. 😂😂

[@johnr3150]

It probably won’t but it might make it a little harder for the gangs to advertise themselves. It’s a start. Says to gangs you can’t do everything you like and get away with it.

[@BronsonLivesHere209]

Oh no, so that means the gangs can’t intimidate and commit crimes effectively now? That’s just terrible. Poor gangs. They must be really sad.

[@jordancostello3385]

To be fair this is just teaching them how to be real gangster

[@XAVYO]

Thats what I was saying. Turn into a under the radar mafia type.

[@cumminsfj4586]

Under the radar with all thatface scribble most have??

[@brucemayhem4162]

​@@cumminsfj4586ha ha no face no case mate! Think for yourself

[@MikeJones-m6r]

Nope, that takes too much work. They'll just find weak ways around it, like getting patches in Maori instead of English.

[@gfreeman9843]

In Australia offensive tattoos must be covered ..by clothing or makeup....😕🤡

[@kentaylor2416]

Not a fan of gangs. I would rather they labeled themselves with patches than fly under the radar unnoticed.

[@1966johnnywayne]

Exactly, this is a stupid action by an authoritarian government.

[@MikeJones-m6r]

You obviously don't live around gangs. Even without their patches they never "fly under the radar" lol.

[@kentaylor2416]

@MikeJones-m6r You absolutely don't know where I live.

[@ngahe82]

Going to force Badges at home will be a tough jobs for the police front line 😞

[@jayleng9630]

No more gang patches

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

They will wear them on their faces and their arms and backs tattoos aren't banned

[@LampoonGoon]

@@Stephen-bq4nq ☺COURT-ORDERED TATTOO REMOVALS 🥳

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

@@LampoonGoon the tattoos aren't illegal

[@calling_a_spade_a_spade]

Later bro. Your not representative of respectable Māori. Finally a govt with balls to tackle this issue.

[@moose5790]

This will soon die off if all the gangs are staunch police have better things to do than enforce this pathetic rule the gangs will always be here its part of NZ culture like it or not, furthermore the patches actually help the police and public to identify individuals. Stick to your revenue pulling on the highways all your doing is setting new and inexperienced cops up to fail and leave the force and from what I hear they along with the Prison service are struggling to retain good staff. Food for thought 🤔

[@RoseBlack-n7v]

@@moose5790 Not going to die down this time.

[@philbyers8354]

What crimes did they comit to get their patches

[@Mark-d3v7g]

An IQ rating is not required to "earn" a patch, helping others out, empathy and community effort doesn't do it either. It is earned through a prospects willingness to hurt others through violence and illegal activities. Surely that alone means the patch has been "earned" through commission of crime and as such can be confiscated. All "right to wear what I want" and "this is my culture" arguments are BS. A true culture takes hundreds if not thousands of years to develop. True Maori culture is an amazing, community supporting, loving Taonga. To bastardize it and insert parts of it into gang beliefs is itself a crime I believe. I recommend anyone interested read the book True Red, by ex-Mongrel Mob Gang Leader Tuhoe 'Bruno' Isaac for greater insight as to how gangs operate and why banning patch wearing in public will help reduce the numbers and the harm they do in society.

[@MrRdpn]

Spot on

[@ManaBlack208]

🫡🤟

[@amigatuala981]

I dont think its a Maori culture .

[@torqingheads]

Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast from the Cook Islands during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by later waves of Polynesians (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Polynesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced groups arriving from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated to the North East Coast of NZ driven by the South Equatorial Current and were stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life including 10 species of Moa and 46 other bird species, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits. 'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner

[@taivaeau4237]

Where tf u get this nonsense piece of trash talk from there watson?

[@JRTIGER07]

Stop flooding B S around I seen the same post on different sites during the March ...Full full of it bro

[@tracymichaelsen493]

Far out. Jesus is that you? Thank God your white Jesus. These bloody Maareez , bloody ungrateful upity darkeez

[@1966johnnywayne]

Very interesting...will be looking into these titles.

[@Schooner77]

​@tracymichaelsen493 Now now... calm the farm miss tracy, that hate will eat away at you 😊

[@maureenrhind8890]

How about changing the behaviours within the gangs so they’re not out in public causing anti social behaviours towards general public. Get them out into the workforce instead of selling illicit drugs and crimes. Prospects too cause as young as they are they have no clue.

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

The patch ban will do nothing to reduce crime or gang recruitment it's a joke. I'm more concerned with a government that thinks they can ignore the bill of rights when it doesn't suit them

[@zephheine9681]

Tautoko

[@zephheine9681]

Unlawful is right..

[@Hup-cx5hp]

​@@zephheine9681fraudulent treaty policies 😊

[@brucemayhem4162]

Hard out....! And what are they doing under the clouds of our frustrations and confusion...?????

[@MikeJones-m6r]

The bill or rights? That's colonial thinking bro.

[@mauricedodsworth5187]

It's sad they think a patch is a proud thing...y'all just have to wear a name badge or face paint and get over it...pretty pathetic fight.

[@loubliss7471]

Now you won't know if your in the middle of two rivalry gangs, but the members will Know.

[@Bebedollie]

And that's dangerous

[@Petersenior-mq8yo]

I think I would know. It would be quite obvious to people who take notice of their surroundings.

[@MikeJones-m6r]

You'll know lol.

[@loubliss7471]

@MikeJones-m6r Yip when your in the middle of a war 🤣🤣

[@loubliss7471]

@@Petersenior-mq8yo you sure about that, not all have distinguishing tats

[@Dangtrudat]

Next they ll ban smoking in doors

[@kennethhammond4028]

Wearing suits like the mafia would be more intimidating.

[@Mertoa]

What about wearing gang patches on a marae or at a tangi? I find it intimidating.

[@Abc1231x1]

Simple don’t break the law 😂

[@least17characters]

Slavery was legal in many countries for a long time should people who fought against this laid down because the law is the law

[@Abc1231x1]

@ did the slaves sell drugs, murder and do other criminal activity? Don’t compare slavery to your gangsters! 😂

[@grafito4438]

I don't think those people who were commenting on the street knew that it was being made illegal in private spaces and homes too. I'd say just ride it out till national and act are out of government. Then make a change back.

[@auintogold4725]

The sad part is patches have been round 65 years and now they are taking them away, he has this righteousness that he believes this patch is part of the Maori culture, and he should wear this being proud, the Maori party has fueled this idiocies to make these scum believe they are a benefit to the community, it’s about time a government started to make moves into making a stand on organized crime

[@epihakete3983]

Who are you... To come into the home.

[@adrearokotogalevu9225]

It's easy. Obey the law

[@jonathonwhitiora8102]

you can not ban patches in there homes that's not right

[@richardnixon4345]

Because these two are older, they are suckering the watcher into thinking that they are “harmless” nice folks

[@jameslochhead5950]

If the leaders of the gangs instructed the members not to commit crimes And just stand up for their cultural identity they would be no gang patch band The only reason it is happening is because there is a perception that gang member is cause more crime than anyone else Maybe as gang leaders you could change that from causing crime to embracing and promoting your own cultural identity and punishing members that commit crimes Cause that is detrimental To

[@genevievekelly4998]

The gangs need to accept it is a reality they wont win,so going against it will only hurt their families

[@KiwiSeeknTheTruth]

Its not the first ban on patches let alone heard promise after promise of a public ban for generations, unfortunately nz is now introduced and influenced with an by gangs that are more violent than nz has been use to seeing or hearing about an now its law polie are enforcing it.

[@secondchance6603]

The usual Political parties welcome them with open arms.

[@r.1599]

Since when is criminality a part of Māori identity and culture? Why teach your tamariki and mokopuna to claim that as their heritage?

[@Carlos-uo3fk]

These gangs do nothing good for anyone, and worst of all their poor children think it is cool to grow up and be a deadbeat gangster like their elders. Imagine if they traded the patch in for a graduation gown, now that would be the ultimate cool.

[@ManaBlack208]

Gangs never did me and my family any harm most are normal people that have children too its just how they've been brought up a few bad apples wreck it for the rest but surely they can restrain themselves from wearing their patch in places like supermarkets malls shopping centres hospitals health clinics it can be scary especially towards little children and old people.

[@FReeMaN-gu7ho]

It pisses me off when people say things like "the gangs have never did me any wrong", ohh so it's alright for them to harass, bully others as long it's not your family aye bro, untill it's your turn and then what..?? The fact of the matter is they're a criminal group and are heavily involved in the meth trade, they're not out here selling girl scout cookies.

[@ManaBlack208]

@FReeMaN-gu7ho That's just my experience anyway I never once said it's ok to harm people I said ban the patches in public so your getting angry at the wrong person if your so passionate about it join the police force then but will you?,I doubt it try to act like your gonna enforce something 😆 nah nothing your all finger action and that's it are u actually out there trying to stop these gangs no your not so dont act like a big heavy coz u ain't

[@kelbatt7729]

They wear the patch because it makes them feel like they are somebody - when really they are nobody

[@FReeMaN-gu7ho]

@@ManaBlack208 yeah you never said it but at the same time you're almost condoning it, in your world it's ok to live along side these criminals, or as you call them "normal people" aye?? what kind of normal people walk around with a costume on and bark like dogs? or killing a 2yr old baby in a drive by shooting? normal people you reckon aye...??? you need to get your head checked mate, the delusion is real 🤣

[@lindsaymeech8618]

Ask the ordinary people in Ōpōtiki what they think.

[@Mum-d4y]

Most dangerous thing they could have done. Imagine bumping into a gang on a walk and getting your head kick in all because you didn't know,I would have rather see a gang patch ,so I know not to interfere with them...

[@PKB239]

But gang members aren't violent, a d certainly don't harm non gang members, so how could this ever possibly occur?

[@evolution7120]

Give our younger generation a better chance, too many are drawn to gangs alot of the reasons is because they think its cool when they are growing up, i think it will have a positive effect to ban them its like our kids getting their nike shoes taken off them at school "they dont look cool any more" my son has this problem his own whanau have 0 to do with gangs quite the opposite #riseuprangatahi

[@rw6957]

It is not a korowai!

[@indica5958]

Sounds like easy way into your home and spaces. Always trying to find ways to invasion of privacy

[@manmanihera6745]

How about get real jobs

[@leoniemccormack6245]

What if gangs start kicking in police doors at there family homes , then what

[@__5545]

😂 what a stupid comment go back to your fantasy gangland weirdo's

[@MrRdpn]

Well, they won't come across a huge stash of money, drugs, and weapons.

[@rubdchillyinmyeye3342]

The police will then proceed to kick in the perpetrators door and put him in jail for a maximum sentence.

[@PKB239]

Escalating because they aren't getting their way? What if the gangs stopped behaving badly and nobody kicked anyone's door in? Why isn't that an option?

[@stephencarter1469]

Comment “Why stop them they’re not hurting anybody”! 🤪 They’re trying to make out it’s about family and culture! Gangs and patches aren’t about peace and harmony and no where in the interview were they considering public sentiment!

[@damojames974]

Govt and law have no place telling people what they can and cant wear in their own time.

[@NPC22WOO]

you only trained 77 coppas AHAHA WHAT A JOKE!!!

[@petermichael2504]

What did you do to earn that patch?

[@keithmac7596]

SAD , NO MORE CLOWN CLOTHES , BOO HOO

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

@@keithmac7596 yeah and it's not going to change anything crime will continue and gang recruitment won't slow down

[@shaymason3728]

Just clown comments

[@michaelgardiner6629]

Tough coward on keyboard

[@Saylesshomie]

Using culture to legitimise a criminal organisation is wild lol

[@Punkagonist]

We need a special operations group like Australia's Raptors. and police shouldn't need a warrant to search a Known gang members Person/Car or House.

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

@@Punkagonist the raptor squad hasn't got rid of the gangs and crime rates haven't reduced and neither has drug use

[@UPTHEWAHSDAY1]

​@@Stephen-bq4nq ah yeah they have.. Where you from?

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

@@UPTHEWAHSDAY1 no they haven't I have family in Australia all the gangs are still there they just don't wear patches in public. There is still gang crime and that includes plenty of drugs being sold

[@Punkagonist]

@Stephen-bq4nq it's helped reduce young wanting to join the gangs, the point is to give our youth a future. These old gangsters have no hope

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

​​@@Punkagonistno it hasn't the gangs are still recruiting in Australia. As long as you have young people coming from the wrong side of the tracks you will have gang members. Government agencies have already warned the New Zealand government they can't arrest their way out of the gang issue