We try Tik-Tok brake disc resurfacing method

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@creepingjesus5106
@creepingjesus5106 Жыл бұрын
The question is; how do abrasive stones work as brake pads?
@thomaslecroy7163
@thomaslecroy7163 Жыл бұрын
Lol brake pads are abrasive pads
@alwaysamongdragons7354
@alwaysamongdragons7354 Жыл бұрын
@@thomaslecroy7163 But they are not abrasive STONES so I feel this is needlessly pedantic.
@EHTheGreat
@EHTheGreat Жыл бұрын
​@@alwaysamongdragons7354Thomas also would say a tomato and a potato are the same thing because they are both part of the Solanaceae family.
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 Жыл бұрын
​@@thomaslecroy7163sharpen a knife with a brake pad?
@Workerbee-zy5nx
@Workerbee-zy5nx Жыл бұрын
You just answered your question. 😂👍
@maximeberube7490
@maximeberube7490 Жыл бұрын
As a ex poor guy i did this many time but using a grinder with 40 grit sand paper discs. Starting by removing the heavu scale with a hammer, then grinding them one side at the time. It work very well, even on slightly warped disc by taking a little more time and les pressure. The only time a disc is no more useable is when they are too tin or the center fins are gone
@newagetemplar6100
@newagetemplar6100 Жыл бұрын
Lol been there done that 😂 last 5 years on a Nissan navara.
@skuula
@skuula Жыл бұрын
40?!? 40 grit is classified as a weapon of mass destruction here.
@maximeberube7490
@maximeberube7490 Жыл бұрын
Yes 40 for the rough part then something like 240 for 20 seconds each side for the finish touch
@maximeberube7490
@maximeberube7490 Жыл бұрын
I use the rougher grit i got because it's way quicker this way. I mean, if it take you 1 hours by disc it's way quicker to got some cheap one at napa. It take me not more than 5 minutes hammering the scale and another 5 with the wheel spinning and the grinder. I use a file in the processe to check if the surface is perfectly flat
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 Жыл бұрын
The thinner they get the quicker they warp.
@JT_70
@JT_70 Жыл бұрын
When I was much younger I resurfaced hundreds of rotors. But, I used a brake lathe with a diamond cutter. We also made sure the finished rotor met the minimum thickness requirement.
@theofficialdiamondlou2418
@theofficialdiamondlou2418 11 ай бұрын
That’s how I learned also. But I was thinking as a pre groove glaze remover this might work , but I’d use SS block with Diamond dust . To get a faster cut with less pressure , and material removed.
@3rdpig
@3rdpig Жыл бұрын
I used to have a tool called the Grizzly Grinder, which did the same thing but in a more controlled fashion. It worked well for making them smooth as long as they weren't deeply grooved, but it was of limited value taking out the high spots. Note that while a lathe can remove the high spots that doesn't "unwarp" the crystalline structure of the metal. Also note that grooves don't stop the brakes from working, as long as they're not so deep as to weaken the rotor just put the new pads on and let them wear in. Or, just buy new rotors, most are dirt cheap.
@DarkIzo
@DarkIzo Жыл бұрын
meanwhile steel rotors
@Lofi.z34
@Lofi.z34 Жыл бұрын
If you drive slow, grooves are manageable. But for a performance car, grooves can send you over a cliff.
@kirkc9643
@kirkc9643 Жыл бұрын
@@Lofi.z34 how so? Grooves and matching pads make for more surface area
@killerdinamo08
@killerdinamo08 Жыл бұрын
​@@Lofi.z34Which is exactly the kind of car you'd want this method of thined rotors apply to 😅.
@Lofi.z34
@Lofi.z34 Жыл бұрын
@@kirkc9643 From my experience grooved rotors/pads had noticeably less applied braking force compared to flat brake rotors. Once you drive over 120 mph you'll definitely know the difference haha.
@michael47lamb
@michael47lamb Жыл бұрын
Forget about those silly stones. Use an angle grinder in the same way instead. You will be done in about 30 minutes. No messy water to deal with either. Stand a concrete block next to the spinning rotors to steady and rest the grinder on so the warp can be removed too. Rock the spinning grinder back and forth against the spinning rotor to make an even surface. I have done it this way on several of my cars, it works like a champ! ;-)
@FloridaMan7337
@FloridaMan7337 11 ай бұрын
All that labor you could just buy new rotors
@u3962521
@u3962521 3 ай бұрын
@@FloridaMan7337yeah i am just thinking of labour time vs new rotor and pads. I can get a pair of bosch brake rotors and brake pads for 158 dollars aud delivered. And to swap rotors and pads its a 1 hour job tops. Getting the angle grinder ready, taking the tyres off car on jack stands and then swapping the rotors to do both sides..... and then still needing to out new pads on.... hardly worth it. If the rotors were 500 a pair makes more sense (toyota landcruiser prado owner )
@FloridaMan7337
@FloridaMan7337 3 ай бұрын
@@u3962521 No it's not worth it. Just buy new rotors. I'm a 30 year mechanic. Don't do it.
@kennethanway7979
@kennethanway7979 Жыл бұрын
I once used a sanding block with 90 grit to remove heavy rust scale on a rotor on a beater mazda truck. The brakes were pulsating badly before, but the sanding actually worked! Drove the truck for a few years with no brake issues at all! Only got rid of it, because it was a mosquito fogger!
@EZ-D-FIANT
@EZ-D-FIANT Жыл бұрын
What the frail is a mosquito fogger?
@Critical_Stinking
@Critical_Stinking Жыл бұрын
If you don't know what a mosquito fogger is, you've never lived.
@gearylhrig1512
@gearylhrig1512 11 ай бұрын
It burns a lot of oil
@dubsydubs5234
@dubsydubs5234 Жыл бұрын
Works better with an angle grinder with a grinding stone, it removes warps as well, you just need the disc spinning quite fast.
@bobgrant4341
@bobgrant4341 Жыл бұрын
You should try polishing the rotor brake pad surface to a mirror like finish and do some stopping distant checks.
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 Жыл бұрын
Probably wouldn't show any meaningful difference. If the brakes are strong enough to lock up the tires, there's no more stopping distance to be gained from strengthening the brakes further. In the vast majority of cases, upgrading the tires and suspension and fine tuning the brake bias is what will improve your stopping distance, not upgrading the brakes themselves.
@Tomatolover120
@Tomatolover120 Жыл бұрын
​@@averyalexander2303I think the idea is some roughness is better than completely smooth since the pads will catch in the rough parts better. Like sandpaper on wood vs sliding a piece of copy paper on wood.
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 Жыл бұрын
@@Tomatolover120 I could see that being true, my point was simply that it's irrelevant as far as stopping distance is concerned and wouldn't show a meaningful difference in testing because slamming the brakes will lock up the wheels regardless of the rotor's surface finish. The surface finish could definitely affect other aspects though such as how the brakes sound and feel and how long the pads last.
@cm5838
@cm5838 Жыл бұрын
Polishing the rotors would have the same effect as glazing, reduced friction which translates to reduced braking ability
@JT-4real
@JT-4real Жыл бұрын
The "warping" can also be from a crook hub bearing or the faces of the disc and hub are not clean. Most cars I work on I see that other mechanics don't clean the hub face prior to fitment of rotors.
@zeropointzero
@zeropointzero Жыл бұрын
It's more common than it should be. "I just had new brakes put on and there's a vibration when I press the brake pedal." "Yeah, here's your problem, the lazy cunt that installed your brakes didn't clean the chunks of mother nature's excrement off the hub surface."
@2bisc
@2bisc Жыл бұрын
My front brake pad worn out and the metal back plate carved the rotor surface with shallow grooves. I simply replaced with new brake pads and drove normally. At first, there were rubbing noise and pulsating feel when I applied the brake. After a few days, the rubbing noise and pulsating feel were gone. The brake pads eventually "grinded" the damaged rotor surface into a shinny (not flat though) surface.
@DarkIzo
@DarkIzo Жыл бұрын
perfect opportunity to do brake tests on bedded-in versus non-bedded in
@martin1649
@martin1649 Жыл бұрын
By feel it's noticeable. when you know how new disc and pads feel, you'll know something is wrong. I hopped in a friends car whose brakes were done and he's only been braking lightly for a few hundred kms. I didn't feel like the braking force was good. Took it for a spin, couple of 80-50 hard slow downs, cool, then 3-4x 50-0 hard stops, then they started smelling, drove some more to cool it down, one more 80-50 slowdown, then perhaps 2-3x 50-0, cool and suddenly it braked as it should. A week later he said he noticed the braking power increased significantly.
@johnhunter7244
@johnhunter7244 11 ай бұрын
​@@martin1649maybe it depends on the pad type and brand. On my car I replaced the ceramic pads and the brand new ones bite hard just like the previous ones. I didn't do any bedding in because it's difficult to do on public roads.
@ignacioalvarez1490
@ignacioalvarez1490 10 ай бұрын
@@johnhunter7244 bedding in is only necessary when changing the rotors
@johnhunter7244
@johnhunter7244 10 ай бұрын
@@ignacioalvarez1490 I guess that makes sense
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 8 ай бұрын
@@ignacioalvarez1490 It can be needed if changing to a different type of pad material also.
@busyguy7479
@busyguy7479 Жыл бұрын
I have to admit this will work if you have no other way to resurface a rotor. interesting experiment you guys are good at coming up with ideas that are workable in a pinch, good job keep the vids coming.
@RealElectrical
@RealElectrical 2 ай бұрын
Good point but a brake lathe takes a few minutes each and this took hours. and the new stones cost as much as a turn job. How much did it cost to custom make a set of grind stones? Who has a flat grind wheel laying around and the tools to cut it to shape? well done for this vid. Bottom line, most tic tok vids promote stupid ideas. Take the rotor to a shop with a lathe. Consider this type of job when there are no other options. It will sort of work. A well made video by some skilled mechanics.
@dosetti
@dosetti Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this channel is alive and free of any politics. Nice experiment fellows.
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 8 ай бұрын
If he talks politics he gets disappeared. Not much of a choice. Certainly not to be celebrated.
@williamkerr8307
@williamkerr8307 11 ай бұрын
Not used this method for decades. Todays rotors seem to wear out quicker than the pads : If you get your car serviced at ford agents. Can't remember the last time I had disks resurfaced.
@Skoog.
@Skoog. Жыл бұрын
Use a anglegrinder instead. Done that many times , but it only takes about 5 min. You do it the same way , start the engine and slowly start grinding. Its easy to get it smoth.
@volkswagenation
@volkswagenation Жыл бұрын
Done it too and it works great. A flap disc polish makes them shiny
@relmdrifter
@relmdrifter 11 ай бұрын
Not too surprised. Stones are used to resurface flywheels. Good trick to know when you don't have a shop open to turn your rotors (I wish I had a brake lathe) I appreciate your comments on the thinness of the rotor after grinding. You started with a very bad rotor to prove the point. Well done :)
@brunofaccini5332
@brunofaccini5332 Жыл бұрын
Brazilian disc resurfacing in that thumb video 😂
@custos3249
@custos3249 Жыл бұрын
That the narrator almost calls it "tictac" is the best part of this entire video 0:58
@kentworch
@kentworch Жыл бұрын
Nice experiment, might be useful for removing light wear, but probably not the most effective for heavy wear. Probably not a good idea to take too much metal off the thickness either. I guess this is kinda a hack for someone to resurface a rotor at home without access to a lathe to avoid having to pay a shop to turn them or buying new ones. This seems like something I would do, but would definitely measure the thickness afterward to ensure it's even and not to thin. Give them a 2nd like without having to pay a shop to turn them. I would definitely always turn them myself if I had my own lathe, unfortunately I don't, and I can't take my own stuff to use the lathe I work on at the machine shop.
@weegaz22
@weegaz22 Жыл бұрын
I've only ever skimmed truck stuff, usually cos their more expensive to replace, car stuff i've always replaced with new cos its not worth the mechanics time to setup up a disc lathe when he can replace it for 20-30 quid a disc.
@CtrlAltFumble
@CtrlAltFumble Жыл бұрын
Ahahaha Tião is commonly used here in Brazil when a mechanic does a bad job lol
@The_Slavstralian
@The_Slavstralian Жыл бұрын
Those little blocks are for sharpening knives. They are not really meant for heavy grinding. cool that they work after the heavy duty blocks you guys made to polish up the final product though. would be great in a pinch for sure.
@xavim9551
@xavim9551 11 ай бұрын
it's been ages since last time youtube showed me any of your videos, happy to see you again in my frontpage
@nathanwoodruff9422
@nathanwoodruff9422 Жыл бұрын
The question is the rotor still in specification. A very thin rotor will warp quicky with lots of heat applied. That rotor may last about 10 hard stops before is it unusable due to the massive jitter when applying the brakes.
@CommeradeZhukov
@CommeradeZhukov Жыл бұрын
These guys are so good that I subscribed to their Russian channel and consequentially learned Russian just so I could see their videos a week earlier than the English version😆
@EPiCxPS3
@EPiCxPS3 Жыл бұрын
So what are you doing here? :=)
@CommeradeZhukov
@CommeradeZhukov Жыл бұрын
@@EPiCxPS3 there were some words I didn't understand so I occasionally come back here for clarification lol
@ocd2222
@ocd2222 7 ай бұрын
by your name it looks like your mother tongue is already russian
@nikkapubess3349
@nikkapubess3349 7 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, these guys don't play silly games, they come with the facts
@BLKBRDD
@BLKBRDD Жыл бұрын
Problem is pretty clear in the Timelapse, the stone is bedding in the same as pads. The blocks need to be rotating at a different speed to average out the contours
@anibalbabilonia1867
@anibalbabilonia1867 Жыл бұрын
It looked like it worked well for a while! Now how about using grinding stones as brake pad’s?
@jimeditorial
@jimeditorial Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best auto workshop channels on KZbin
@NSC-Modz
@NSC-Modz 11 ай бұрын
After wasting 50.000 liters it's finally ready to throw it in the trash 😂
@johnjelinek-g7b
@johnjelinek-g7b Жыл бұрын
Ah, the Flintstones on car brake lathe system . lol hahaha, Nice high performance brake machining method there Vlad . lol :)
@whyjnot420
@whyjnot420 Жыл бұрын
Resurfacing a rotor is so oddly satisfying. When done in the normal way.
@Tj1983coggin
@Tj1983coggin Жыл бұрын
In the 80s Honda used a bolt on lathe that would resurface the rotors. Bolted though anchor mount on the knuckle
@TonedogTonedogGaming
@TonedogTonedogGaming Жыл бұрын
keep up the videos i appreciate the work that goes into it
@BrianRRenfro
@BrianRRenfro Жыл бұрын
If I have rotors that aren't grooved or warped, just needing new pads, I just run the car/truck and hold a D/A sander with 80 grit on it for a bit. Cleans them up and helps the pads seat. Never had a shake or shimmy or any issue after and saved me money taking them to be turned and getting back rotors that the idiot at the place destroyed and then I end up buying new ones anyway.
@MrTuberguber
@MrTuberguber 8 ай бұрын
I've done this myself. No need to get carried away, they' glaze up again whatever you do.
@EZ-D-FIANT
@EZ-D-FIANT Жыл бұрын
One cause of a warped rotor/disk is having a very hot rotor/disk and then stopping the car and leaving it, the caliper acts like a heat sink creating uneaven cooling, if you've been driving/breaking hard cool your brakes before shutting your car down and they are way less likely to warp.....👍👌👍
@AaronsSmallEngineShop
@AaronsSmallEngineShop Жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought about using a angle grinder to try and fix a rotor they even make sandpaper discs for more detailed part after you get the grooves gone, get the Rotor spinning on the car and just lightly run the angle grinder up and down on it
@volkswagenation
@volkswagenation Жыл бұрын
I've done just that. It works in a pinch.
@Graciashauf
@Graciashauf Жыл бұрын
Dial indicator would have been nice to check TIR
@alexmay3533
@alexmay3533 7 ай бұрын
One important point is flatness. It is good to have a shiny disc. However; we have to see if it is also flat. Brake pads work with friction and friction needs full contact between the disc and the pads.
@thebalauru3602
@thebalauru3602 10 ай бұрын
12:01 - "BLIN" Bmi Russian: "I like it"😂
@TheDigger06
@TheDigger06 Жыл бұрын
Using this method to grind rollers insitu in mills, been used since the 1920,s. U can buy a kit to do it even, very accurate if used correctly
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator Жыл бұрын
No no, you see, it's a TikTok video - it must be new. (laughs in depression era)
@philipbland5960
@philipbland5960 11 ай бұрын
Ford uk did this as a recall about 50yrs ago, we fitted abrasive pads for a couple of weeks to cure brake judder then fitted new pads when car returned
@GP-pw5wb
@GP-pw5wb 11 ай бұрын
Goodness I remember them as well, used to over come warped brake discs. Wasnt really successful as I remember still ended up in fitting new discs.
@JJisMe1972
@JJisMe1972 Жыл бұрын
Ok I just started watching this and the first issue is the groves are just going to ware into the stones. You would need to keep the stones moving or true them often.
@GregNTech
@GregNTech Жыл бұрын
If you took 2 whole grinding stones. With the hole in the middle. And figured out a way to allow the grinding stones to spin while the brake rotor rotated.
@roderickconstantino5354
@roderickconstantino5354 11 ай бұрын
Always learning something good from you guys!
@ronaldmoravec2692
@ronaldmoravec2692 Жыл бұрын
I am very easy on brakes and never had a warped one sine I started keeping the hammer mechanics away from my car 50 years ago. Never had grooves either. When replacing pads, I scuffed surface with a 2x4 and 80 grit emory. Just place rotor on floor and go around evenly a few time. repeat back side.. This happens around 50 K miles.. When reinstalling wheels, I torque in pattern to 50, 65 85 foot in 3 steps. When sitting at a light if there was a heavy fast stop which rarely happens, let the car creep 1/4 wheel turn every 30 sec to get even cooling.
@moekakke
@moekakke Жыл бұрын
Happy you make the correct statement in the end. If they are warped they stay warped.
@zombiebiker5581
@zombiebiker5581 11 ай бұрын
You are correct you can’t straighten warped discs. People on here are getting warped mixed up with not fitted flushed or high spots only way to un-warp would be to heat/temper the metal (if it’s viable). If it’s warped just get new discs.
@think2023
@think2023 Жыл бұрын
Honda had a tool with round stones that would rotate as the disc rotated. Dud a bang up job and didn't need a slide hammer or axle seals.
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator Жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to try this on my Matiz, which has pressed in rotors on the front. Shit design on an otherwise completely serviceable car.
@phillipbartels2944
@phillipbartels2944 Жыл бұрын
How thin can brake rotors go before they fail to stop the vehicle? I’m a technician and I’ve allways bean curious on what the effects of rotors that have bean over machined will be. How thin can you go before things aren’t safe anymore? If you test it, just do it carefully.
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator Жыл бұрын
They will always stop a car as long as there is material (barring it being like paper thin or something) even if you go well below the minimum thickness. The problem is heat dissipation; a thinner rotor won't have as much mass, and will warp quicker.
@4BillC
@4BillC Жыл бұрын
Not going to lie... This is something I'm going to remember and probably do! If for no other reason than to just refresh a rotor before new pads.
@stevo184
@stevo184 Жыл бұрын
Waste of stupid time, if the rotors are warped, they'll remain warped, just smooth warped.
@4BillC
@4BillC Жыл бұрын
@@stevo184 obviously... But if the rotors are fine otherwise. Maybe a little scratched up.
@galesams4205
@galesams4205 10 ай бұрын
Do you like brake shutter? no way this will work to much run-out. even NEW rotors will have some run out , thank a brake lathe.
@coriant
@coriant 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I've resurfaced a ton of rotors on a brake lathe and I've ran brand new rotors and there out around 8 to 15 thousandth and with a good lathe you can get them within 2 thousandth
@chuckbailey6835
@chuckbailey6835 10 ай бұрын
I woulda been afraid them. Stones would have broken with out puting wood between the clamp
@victory2115
@victory2115 Жыл бұрын
Remember there’s a minimum thickness recommended, if they’re too thin they’ll overheat and warp. 🚙
@Louis2282
@Louis2282 Жыл бұрын
So ! No problem in a russian winter then
@adam346
@adam346 Жыл бұрын
using stones is a two-way street... if you don't resurface the stone, eventually the grooves cut into it by the rotor will then be cut back into the rotor... there are resurfacing stones you can but that you can use to re-surface the stone itself so you do not get stuck in the endless loop of grinding, cutting and returning the imperfections.
@JJSmith1100
@JJSmith1100 Жыл бұрын
I have a question. What does it matter if there are grooves worn in the disc? Once the pads wear into the grooves the surface area increases and braking power should actually improve.
@stevo184
@stevo184 Жыл бұрын
Don't be silly.
@JJSmith1100
@JJSmith1100 Жыл бұрын
@@stevo184 Please explain.
@DogSpeak
@DogSpeak 11 ай бұрын
@@JJSmith1100 Technically, there would be more surface area, so yeah. I'll do just pads a few times before I bother with the rotors. Pads are cheap and easy so I dont mind having to replace them a little more often.
@-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions-
@-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions- Жыл бұрын
That is very impressive nonetheless though. I guess if you need a quick fix in a pinch and you are not near a brake shop or anything and you have some grinding stones. You could do a quick fix to get You to a brake shop it would work somewhat. But change the rotors as soon as you can.
@zombiebiker5581
@zombiebiker5581 11 ай бұрын
Years ago, if the discs are in in spec, garage used to skim (lathe) .Thats the proper way if you couldn’t Buy/afford discs. But they are not mega expensive. Eurocarparts about £140 for a pair, for my Astra 1.4 2007, but haven't needed to change since new, done 147 thousand miles
@shadowdraxx
@shadowdraxx Жыл бұрын
Garage 54 still taking the rest of KZbin to school with the music choices
@JT_771
@JT_771 Жыл бұрын
Garage 54 ... helping to reign in the mayhem one finds on the internet.
@cheweh842
@cheweh842 Жыл бұрын
@0:39 what poem is he referencing? Sorry I'm not that educated in Russian literature D:
@vincentas1
@vincentas1 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a joke, no poem has any of those items
@jameskenney5623
@jameskenney5623 9 ай бұрын
I've machined hundreds of rotors in my life, and most people don't understand that original rotors have a higher quality than the cheap Chinese rotors you buy from the parts store
@chuklee7523
@chuklee7523 3 ай бұрын
Can you explain exactly what the difference is? I am under the impression that cast iron is cast iron. Maybe I'm wrong.
@peterpeter377
@peterpeter377 2 ай бұрын
​@@chuklee7523😂😂😂😂😂😂 😢
@M.E63
@M.E63 4 күн бұрын
The original ones are still made by a brake company, and you can buy high quality aftermarket parts
@nathanhale7444
@nathanhale7444 Жыл бұрын
I e used an angle grinder to resurface. It makes a pretty rough surface so I put the pads from the other side which usually have a little life left in them and drive with them on for a while to smooth out the surface before installing the new pads.
@Ypvs350r
@Ypvs350r Жыл бұрын
I would like to see this done again but using a flat File , it’s amazing how good a file is at fixing rotors
@outseeker
@outseeker 11 ай бұрын
now i'm wondering can you design a tool that bolts onto caliper mounts, that you can use to fully cut back/straighten rotors while on the vehicle? :)
@oby-1607
@oby-1607 Жыл бұрын
The brake pads thanked you for this.
@Carrot297
@Carrot297 Жыл бұрын
That poem is going on my Christmas list.
@igorcossetto4779
@igorcossetto4779 Жыл бұрын
Full respect! Top work👍👏!
@jimmieblue6262
@jimmieblue6262 11 ай бұрын
We use a hand grinder keeping the grinder disk perfectly flat against the rotor it works very good. When the grinder disk makes the good contact it will spin the rotor on it's own no power.
@cm5838
@cm5838 Жыл бұрын
Never thought about doing this, I’ve used a flap wheel to clean up atv brake rotors though. On my list of things to buy if I ever get rich is a brake lathe.
@dillonjames-so5cz
@dillonjames-so5cz Жыл бұрын
Took way longer than just doing it the right way lol 😆
@shawbros
@shawbros Жыл бұрын
Ask your mechanic to do it this way.
@Ypvs350r
@Ypvs350r Жыл бұрын
I did the exact same thing with a wide flat file and it worked perfectly👍
@Louis2282
@Louis2282 Жыл бұрын
Just glad i have a lathe and can skim them . With a stone it will smoth them but you must put more pressure to the innercof the disc to remove taper
@1985cjjeeper
@1985cjjeeper Жыл бұрын
If your rotors are warped but not too bad you can heat them up and cool them off flat again. You need a good stretch of road where you can get them hot with light braking. And then brake very gently to a stop, light enough where you don't feel the steering wheel shake at all. If it shakes once you gotta start over. After that just sit there for 10 minutes or longer till the rotors have cooled down. I usually do it on an empty highway and pull over to wait it out. As a tech I'd do it just before I did a brake job on my own vehicle and was gonna turn the rotors on a brake lathe.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- Жыл бұрын
I'm struggling to see why this would automatically remove warping. I'm not saying you're wrong, but unless I'm missing something I don't see why continuous light braking would encourage the metal to flatten?
@1985cjjeeper
@1985cjjeeper Жыл бұрын
@@JJFX- It's not "automatic". It's just heating the rotors up good and hot and letting the metal settle back the way it was before it got hot and warped during continued heavy braking. By just barely engaging the brakes you're able to get the rotor hot without increasing the warping. Metal has a crystalline structure and it likes to line up a certain way. If you've distorted that structure, heating it can allow it to return back to the shape it was initially formed in. Same concept as using a heat gun to fix a dent in a body panel or what you see with nytinol metal if you bend it and then heat it, although that is an extreme example.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- Жыл бұрын
@@1985cjjeeper Interesting, I just didn't think you could heat it enough or evenly enough doing that while moving to cause a reliable change. In that case I suppose you could just lift it and carefully take a torch to the rotor while it spins?
@1985cjjeeper
@1985cjjeeper Жыл бұрын
@@JJFX- Probably so. I suppose someone could make an oven/press combo thing specifically for the purpose. It'd be a lot better than just turning the rotors down on a brake lathe and having varying wall thicknesses afterwards. As a tech we'd all make jokes about how it's gonna "warp real bad" now when we saw rotors being turned down that should have been replaced due to the warping.
@edwincolon7782
@edwincolon7782 11 ай бұрын
They sell a tool that make .your car a lathe.and cuts EXACTLY like the machine used too. Now the discs are thinner to save weight and many can only be surfaced 1-2 times tops.
@sonnyhome5515
@sonnyhome5515 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! You save me a combo meal!
@Z-Ack
@Z-Ack Жыл бұрын
Why couldnt you bolt a lathe tool rest on the caliper bolts and use a truing tool to turn down the rotor while still on the car? Ive used a bench grinder before with the front end jacked up in firsy gear to grind the tires back to round when they were all warped out of round/ cupped. Worked great.. a bit sketchy but so are a lot of things.. tires need to still have good meat left on em..
@vab120
@vab120 11 ай бұрын
Breaking down the myth : there are no warped rotors, only pad resin deposits
@abyssmanur3965
@abyssmanur3965 Жыл бұрын
Dont worry about the scratches, they add extra grab 😂
@yomauser
@yomauser Жыл бұрын
You can use flat metal files, it will do the grind much faster.
@southern_merican
@southern_merican Жыл бұрын
u should do a reverse uno and make a brake rotor lined with brake pads, and make the normal "brake pad" out of 100%steel
@dimitar4y
@dimitar4y Жыл бұрын
now that's a garage54 idea if i've ever heard one.
@southern_merican
@southern_merican Жыл бұрын
@@dimitar4y right ! hopefully they see it.
@markchapman2585
@markchapman2585 Жыл бұрын
Hey babe what did you do with the turkey carving kit we got off you're parents. I know you will never sharpen a knife anyways. Awesome video guy's you have the best car videos on KZbin.
@swicked86
@swicked86 Жыл бұрын
I think two flat blocks of steel should be used first. Maybe install the pads backwards??? Then do the stone.
@zcomputerwiz
@zcomputerwiz Жыл бұрын
That results in a lot of heat and galling. Not sure what the effect would be with water though. Grinding stones definitely work
@swicked86
@swicked86 Жыл бұрын
@@zcomputerwiz steel cuts iron with ease, the flat backs would pull down the very high ridge quickly. Then it would be easier to finish with a stone. I've actually machined a crank pulley with a screwdriver before, iron is extremely soft.
@gasolinefumes
@gasolinefumes Жыл бұрын
I've used backwards pads on bad rotors. It made the rotors less bad, which was good enough for me!
@gotaplay
@gotaplay 11 ай бұрын
The sharpening stone is worth more than the car haha
@vinegar008
@vinegar008 9 ай бұрын
My biggest concern are the stones on the brake caliper bracket. May be some old shims to protect it? For my car, brake discs are cheap (4 Hours of minimum wage for a pair), so I'll replace them rather than spending all these efforts. 😅
@jessesteinbar
@jessesteinbar Жыл бұрын
I used this method a few years ago and worked very well
@jimmykreutz6087
@jimmykreutz6087 Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!🤯
@GrugBug-f7j
@GrugBug-f7j Жыл бұрын
Solid! Top KEK! Peace be with you.
@tomc8157
@tomc8157 Жыл бұрын
Tik Tok engineering at its finest
@paulg444
@paulg444 11 ай бұрын
of course for the cost of the labor and the grinding stone you can buy 4 new rotors. One DIY solution would be to fabricate a bridge and replicae a machine shop using the caliper to mount the carbide bit.. Then just slowly take material off.
@markcole6475
@markcole6475 Жыл бұрын
Using sharpening stones to prep a decent rotor for new pads would work good……but a warped or rough rotor would require resurfacing on a lathe first …then finish with stones to get a nice non directional finish.
@JustOneFeather
@JustOneFeather 11 ай бұрын
*would require some изъебнуться with angle grinder
@abyssmanur3965
@abyssmanur3965 Жыл бұрын
I did this with a grinder on my kia Spectra, fitted new pads and the little kia became a braking monster.
@mikeallensonntag
@mikeallensonntag 11 ай бұрын
Pretty awesome. In reality I think min rotor thickness is bs anyways unless they become very thin.
@marca5883
@marca5883 11 ай бұрын
Surely you used as much fuel as it would cost to buy new discs?
@bruceschlick4009
@bruceschlick4009 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be a very interesting idea to try the grinding pads as break pads.
@stevo184
@stevo184 Жыл бұрын
Or did you mean BRAKE pads.
@Mackze
@Mackze Жыл бұрын
This has been done decades before tiktok even existed
@Fk8td
@Fk8td Жыл бұрын
When you had a block secured with one side with a plate to the caliper bracket it could help remove some of the warp because it will apply more pressure as the warp spot comes around. Method is still a waste because cutting rotors is cheap.
@SR-gt350
@SR-gt350 Жыл бұрын
Next use a angle grinder while turning the rotor have the disk running parrallel to the rotor
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator Жыл бұрын
In the same direction?
@SR-gt350
@SR-gt350 Жыл бұрын
@@the_kombinator side of grinder disk against rotor face as both rotate. Works really fast and prevents grooving of the disk surface.
@LastResort1331
@LastResort1331 Жыл бұрын
I knew it you left that axle nut loose just to mess with me.😮
@sergefog
@sergefog Жыл бұрын
I did mine with an angle grinder, it worked super well and the car brakes lie it's new. I wonder why people care for doing this with sharpening stones, it does look like a lot of work to me.
@mafosa8519
@mafosa8519 Жыл бұрын
A+ for the effort!!
@DropDii
@DropDii Жыл бұрын
Like something that won’t bend or warp something at all apply even pressure with the blocks
@randalrsilva
@randalrsilva Жыл бұрын
I love this colabs between Russia and Brazil
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