Can we get an upside down engine to start?

[@Cnightz]

You guys come up with a lada ideas

[@JuanGamer0202]

At least you tried xd

[@sergiosgames]

Best one here😂

[@UmmmmmmmWhat]

The viewer ideas also Niva end.

[@RowanGuthrie]

I love this comment section

[@bexleydragon5294]

Absolutely bonkers 😂 🤣 love it!

[@Detsiboy99]

Try to make a boxer engine from two lada engines😏

[@itz.teo0]

great idea

[@MrJohnmoumoute]

V8...AT 90° from 2 lada engines or a flat 8 ..

[@BoostedMike2]

@@MrJohnmoumoute that is what a boxer engine is......

[@aboyplays7278]

@@BoostedMike2 not exactly. Flat engines share crank pins boxers do not

[@martin-vv9lf]

if they put the lada engine on it's side like a boxer it would lower the center of gravity.

[@Flies2FLL]

The German engineers at Daimler Benz in the 1930's did this with their DB601 48 valve SOHC inverted V12 of 35 liters of displacement, used on the Messerschmitt BF-109 fighter plane and a few others. The BF-109 was a tailwheel single engine single seat airplane. Due to the tailwheel, the airplane sat at a nose up angle. The engineers at Daimler Benz inverted their V12 for two reasons: 1. The oil pan was really just a cover over the bottom of the crankcase. This it was pretty much a flat plate. This served to lower the nose profile, making it easier for the pilot to see over the nose of the plane. The propellor reduction gear was a planetary arrangement, since this mounting put the output shaft higher up. 2. This design allowed the heads and all the assorted intakes, fuel injectors, plumbing, and wiring to be serviced by a man standing on the ground under the engine. The British Rolls Royce Merlin was also a V12, but it was upright and servicing the engine required a scaffold or ladders. The upright cylinder heads made the nose that much higher up, reducing visibility, especially when taxiing. The reduction gear used upright gears, adding weight versus a planetary gear arrangement. -The only real negative about this is that when the engine is shut off, over time oil tends to drip downward due to gravity and collect in the low mounted cylinder heads. This can in extreme cases cause hydraulic lock. Radial engines have this problem, and it is normal to turn the propellor over a few "blades" by HAND in order to make sure that this is not occuring. If a strong resistance is suddenly felt, it is best to remove all the lower spark plugs and turn it over again. No automobile has been built like this, since there is no practical reason to do it this way, but dry sump lubrication via scavenge and then oil tank pumps are common on Porsche cars, and race cars generally do it this way. In this particular situation, he has the light on all the time because the electric pumps are just not enough, and in most engines, oil flow to the camshaft area is not very high. An engine that is inverted needs the oil system to be designed in a specific way to be inverted as a result. Many light aircraft engines have the "AE" prefix to their official FAA designation to denote aerobatic oil and fuel preparation, such as the Cessna 152 Aerobat, that used the AEO-235 four cylinder engine. Great video!

[@AnalogDude_]

Always wonder how that worked on those Mercedes engine, stagnated oil bath inside the pistons? Some turbo engines have a spray mechanism to cool the pistons from below by spraying oil.

[@Flies2FLL]

@@AnalogDude_ Some radial engines had valves that could be opened while the engine was turned over by hand to remove accumulated oil. If you watch a video about an old airplane with radial engines starting up, you will see a ton of blue smoke when it starts. This is the oil that has seeped into the lowest combustion chambers being burned off. "Piston squirters" would be a bad idea on an inverted engine...

[@monad_tcp]

I wonder about the carburetor being inverted

[@AnalogDude_]

@@monad_tcp A square root of performance upgrade.

[@vumba1331]

A major problem that they had with the DB601 aero engine was the plugs fouling, one bank more than the other as the rotation of the crankshaft tended to throw the oil on that bank thus exacerbating the oiling problem. Evidently the ignition timing on the engine could be retarded to help burn the plugs clean, saw the control switches for that in an Me110 twin cockpit photo.

[@PilotInCommand777]

We need to band together around the world and do stuff like this instead of fighting! I only wish and hope! Thank You!!

[@kylejuve5494]

Amen

[@kwslife116]

Yes.

[@qoph1988]

...But the best machines come from fighting

[@SwapBlogRU]

I agree with your sentiment. Let's hope that more of us can get into the sort of aviation mindset, I guess.

[@hearingthesmells2500]

Absolutely 👍🏼

[@coldwarmotors]

Making the impossible look easy, every week! No one does it better than the one and only Garage 54... Cheers from Canada!

[@KWSKB]

Nikolai: "I mean... when did we ever failed?" He speaks the truth! G54 never let us down!

[@xjoelportox]

They should’ve combined the engine with the special high compression pistons from a previous engine, with additional compression and o rings. Should help with oil consumption

[@treeguyable]

Vlad, defying gravity, and a whole bunch of other stuff, for years. How can you not love this guy.?

[@treeguyable]

All that, just to make alt access so easy!😂

[@bandindia6134]

so his name is nikolai? i thought his name is boris all the time before watching your comments :D

[@Troublemeyer]

@@bobscat-wj4ub You still got what you wanted

[@claytonandrews251]

A Lada near these guys must feel like a lawnmower around project farm.. lol

[@JeffKopis]

Or a cow near a Burger King 🤣

[@Wagonman5900]

Or a horse near a glue factory.

[@supersst838]

​@Wagonman5900 how u mean

[@WhiffenC]

I love that you bring it around to get reactions from everyone and mechanics, I'm sure it brightens their day. Always gets a laugh :)

[@incoherentscreaming5011]

Still answering my unexpected questions I never had about cars in a practical way. I love the 'hack it up and make it work' approach, it's great

[@genehunsinger3981]

The "Vlad explores other shops concerning his troubles road trips" are always a blast.PUT OUT the closed sign,,,here comes VLAD!!!

[@Martin.Wilson]

The reactions of the other mechanics are the best part of this video. Priceless!

[@MrMrsedz]

Well done fella's well done ..Have had this same talk with a few blokes in the past .. Thumbs up from Australia .

[@busyguy7479]

Well anything is possable in this shop the effort that went into this configuration is amazing. well done guys if it can be done this is the place to come for your modification..

[@glumpy10]

So many people getting a laugh and enjoyment out of this. Magic!

[@movee9324]

These guys are on a level of their own! Crazy but the good kind😂

[@duanemyhre]

This is one of the best yet! Going where no one has gone before. Amazing

[@marsrover001]

How do you come up with a new cursed idea in so many videos? This is truly one of the best cursed engines to date. And all the reactions to the absurd is fantastic.

[@martynwatson4929]

Welding that aluminium bellhousing with big amps, in a t-shirt, you ruskies are built tough.!

[@erigabu]

In their early videos they don't even using welding masks.

[@redacted_redacted_redacted]

Engage your safety squints

[@MissionFailed2]

@@erigabu he's not even using them in this video: 1:10 lol

[@darthvirago]

Try it at 90° have a flat four engine. might not burn so much oil

[@adrianmini1000]

You’re right down on power because of the Oil bypass in the rings. also Down on power due to the weight of oil in the back cups of the pistons. keep up the good work, love all these mad modifications.😂

[@robinpage2730]

Letting it sit while off, the oil would drain into the cylinders. Mercedes solved this somehow for the Messerschitt 209, but I don't know what they did

[@MadScientist267]

Only thing Mercedes ever managed to solve was how to overengineer an overpriced pile of steamer in a repair shop.

[@TheLuMIze]

I believe they drained the bottom cylinders before every start, since the bottom cylinders were responsible for oiling the crank by splashing the oil back up during operation

[@andrew86fl]

Inverted V12 developed for the Bf-109 I believe was a dry sump. Oil reservoir separate from the engine.

[@TheLuMIze]

@@andrew86fl wikipedia says that the pistols were responsible for oiling the crank, meaning it wouldn't be a dry sump, I'm not sure tho you might be right

[@bills6093]

Radial engines needed the oil drained from the lower cylinders after sitting. You can see movies of the crew turning the engine over by hand prior to starting, to clear the lower cylinders of oil.

[@wolfie7303]

Need to convert to a dry sump system too.

[@deweyharmon4666]

I absolutely love it!! You all are the best! Please keep'em coming, friend!!

[@longclaw5711]

Try putting an engine on a trailer and that engine to power the wheels of the trailer it’s on and connect the trailer to the car and how does it feel to drive like that 😂

[@twentyrothmans7308]

That's insane, and a wonderful idea.

[@benterry6463]

Like a constant pit maneuver. Would be so much fun

[@JeffKopis]

Like the tail wagging the dog!

[@HighTreason610]

Something like this was tried with bicycles in the first half of the 1900s. Google "Early Motorized European Bicycles" and there will probably be a photo or two, looks about as silly as you'd imagine. I once attempted to create something similar and it handled about as well as you'd expect, but mostly the trailer wheel just tried to shred its tire and starting it was a pain due to a lack of weight, ergo lack of grip, needed to bump it. Easy to see why the side mounted auto-wheel design proved more popular. With a car I can only guess that it would handle about the same as when your trailer decides it wants to try and overtake the vehicle it's attached to, provided it had enough weight on the trailer. When accelerating, it would take weight off the car's rear tires and make things rather squirmy, though maybe with low enough power (or massively riding the clutch) it could work. One thing worth considering is that reversing an articulated vehicle is something of an art form and you'd be near enough doing that all the time here, but going forwards and with the steering wheels being on the 'trailer' (the car) rather than the tractor (the trailer with an engine bolted onto it). For added entertainment, use it on ice or put plastic tubing over the tires and drive on a slight gradient.

[@coryernewein]

Farmers often used to "drive" the hay trailer with the PTO off the tractor. Since a ton of trailers were made from the rear axle and diff the farmer simply had to hook up the driveshaft with a splined collar and HANG ON! If you've never seen a 60km/h tractor you're missing out🤙

[@schizy]

Some of your friends need an oil change in their jackets.

[@Colorado_Native]

That's rustproofing.

[@MadScientist267]

A clean mechanic holding tools is a scary sight.

[@linuxguy1199]

It's mechanic oil.

[@groenevinger3893]

Hopefully they wont catch a fire..

[@Dr.Mcstaby]

@@MadScientist267 very scary indeed

[@twentyrothmans7308]

Can I buy the invisible welding/safety goggles from an affiliate link somewhere?

[@DjukaWZMechanicGamingComedy]

Svaka cast i na ideji i na realizaciji 💪

[@Peluca2T]

Next video vertical engine connected directly to the differential. 💪🏻🤯

[@АлакПатрова]

Hell yea

[@desertdiagnostics]

Inchalada hot today, chilly tamale ...don't start tomorrow or some rods you'll hafta borrow~

[@geoffgibson5576]

Looks like there could be a good market for this engine down under!!!

[@jlco]

Seeing the mechanics look at it confused then just start laughing is amazing.

[@bavelnaard]

Hahaha what a brilliant experiment! Multiple times I fell of my chair laughing 👍🏻😆

[@msmith5030]

You guys never let us down. Always a new video for Sunday mornings. Keep up the good work😀

[@GoMibuster]

Before I die needs to have a LADA😂😂

[@MadScientist267]

One thing is for sure, you've got more or less the entire manual for them all right here 🤣 I know the engine in a Lada better just from seeing these videos... than I know the engine in my own car at this point 🤣 Such a distinct design like yota's 22R... And apparently it's one of the tried and true workhorses that just keeps going, all the same.

[@Badge1122]

World famous air race pilot Steve Whitman turned an Olds V8 inverted in his home built aircraft the Tail Wind and flew it many times. It worked great and sold plans on how to do it.

[@anonymousinc6330]

Can already tell you the bearings are going to burn up from oil starvation, and it will smoke like hell.

[@RODALCO2007]

Brilliant work. You guys are awesome.

[@c_lo01]

Simple answer, Yes. It will start and run because of the combustion, the problem is oil starvation. Once the crank gets no oil cooling and lubricity it will seize. Fun video either way. Just to show what can happen.

[@youtubasoarus]

Love the creative ideas you guys come up with! This is awesome!

[@Yourboipilot]

“What about warranty?” “Just like every shop gives you, up to the gate” 😂

[@gabi_urbex]

This is exactly what I was waiting for 😂

[@Martin.Wilson]

The oil warning light comes on and reads "WTF?"

[@JakeStarAstrella]

Omg I LOVE THE IDEAS you guys come up with. Ideas and literally experiments that answer so many good engineering questions ⁉️ good channel that will make you laugh

[@davidwallace785]

I just love how youse make look so back street but youse fellas have a huge amount of talent 😊. Best content going right here

[@martinlicht1969]

"It runs quietly, but why is the warning light on?" Love you guys and always entertained! Maybe burn 2 stroke oil in that!

[@waldeksosnowski9785]

Uwielbiam wasz kanał, robicie świetną robotę! Dziękuję, że dostarczacie mnóstwo zabawy!

[@RailsofForney]

4:31 There is blue smoke coming out of the exhaust. The engine is burning oil as it’s running. Because the crank case is above the pistons, oil is getting past the control rings and into the combustion chambers.

[@UmmmmmmmWhat]

Ok, now add huge wheel spacers and put it on 2-3 meter tall wheels so you can flip the car with the engine upside-down upside-down so the engine is running right-side up again. Might be hard getting in the drivers seat.

[@Rob-fc9wg]

Wouldn't work with a carburettor.

[@rudozemeu3357]

Again when you start laughing from the thumbnail!!!

[@Drenov]

Fantastic, I liked the guy that said that's nothing unusual from one of your cars. Good Job

[@marcsears65]

Hahaha safety squint welding! 😂

[@louisfredgagnon]

Awesome, visiting the neighborhood was quite funny to watch hahah

[@rupe53]

The only questions I have are about coolant flow and getting that trans centered to make the clutch work!

[@plupyduplupydu1369]

Working to hard as usual-sure looks good-great show-thank you again

[@ng6424]

Love the wild test you do. Keep up the hard work.

[@38911bytefree]

Garage 54, going to place no one has been before !!!

[@FieroGT3400]

right away i can say the carb won't work upside down. (unless is don't use a normal float bowl- or you use propane or some other gas as fuel) and if you plan on putting any oil in it, it will drown out the pistons from underneath. and have the pistons drowned won't allow them to move as fast as they would need to be moving. maybe put less oil so it only fills the valve covers, also, the oil pump won't even be able to suck any oil, unless you make up a new tube that goes down to the valve covers. they will also be full of oil. will be interested to see what happens... EDIT: most of these issues you took care of, so you really put in the time to transform the orientation! impressive!

[@knobsdialsandbuttons]

Does that engine have a single or double underhead camshaft ?...

[@telegummis]

single

[@67comet]

Absolutely brilliant hahahah .. This'd be an epic car show piece .. Engineering at its finest :) ..

[@Kenji1685]

The Messerschmitt bf109 engine was a V12 designed to be "upside down" with dry sump. That was a very successful plane, so it's definitely been done before.

[@crasher88]

I wonder if the original designer of the Lada or group of designers is still alive. I would love to see their reactions to what all these guys have done to these cars

[@cassianomartin2699]

G54 doing more engineering tests than any car maker lol

[@MadScientist267]

This channel has come so far... from goofy borderline yawn beginnings to flipped over see thru steam engines going through 3 transmissions, 14 pumpkins, held up off the road by magnets and rebar wheels... all while only being half a car lengthwise and able to cartwheel. I'd expand on these ideas but my battery is low...

[@JPJPJP98]

That was one of the quickest “heytherefellas” I’ve seen so far 😂😂

[@MasterDodo1337]

Can you build your own engine? Casting the Block etc? So dont buy any manufactured parts.

[@SHAGG13]

I love the voice overs they're great... I love how he says let's bounce lolol

[@TiborRoussou]

11:39 looks like it needs a ring job!

[@palspaugh]

garage 54 music always on point

[@artemc329]

Take it to get an oil change at a shop with the upside down engine and see how they react.

[@MattBrownbill]

There's no dipstick... 😂

[@123fourfive5]

We might visit a shop to do a valve adjustment job Sir, your horns are showing

[@YouStEeLz]

At this point, Garage54 is just doing it to entertain all their mechanic buddies with the stupidest mods, love it haha!

[@qoph1988]

To start? Yes of course. To run or a while without self-destructing? Ahh there's the rub. The Daimler-Benz 600 series engines are fun to look at if you want to see ones designed that way. Lots of upside-down airplane engine designs, to help keep the axis of the propeller near the top of the plane

[@jjay350]

The endless experiments that can be done with Ladas is impressive.

[@Goodkiwibloke]

I like that unsheilded driveshaft, just waiting to grab a loose jacket corner and pull the driver into it...... But keep up the engineering challenges,

[@3rdpig]

"Why is the engine upside down?". Answer, "KZbin".

[@Wrecker3D]

I can imagine a more modern engine would cause problems, due to all the sensors and stuff (over)complicating things... Suggestion: Can you turn a Lada into a Lady? (improve/swap engine etc. and modify the look of the car to be more super car like*) *= no need to reach Bugatti, Ferrari, Audi etc. levels... just close enough in a short timeframe (you don't need to take years of planning, designing, developing etc. , show us what a few garage workers can think up)

[@jeeptrail08]

Still the greatest channel on KZbin for automotive shanagins 😁

[@SUBZEROinfinity]

LOL Free mosquito removal while driving. Nice!!!

[@adarshsunil7711]

This guy never runs out of ideas 🧠

[@EndroEndro]

it will probably stop at some some point. the oil pump is pumping in most cases by one channel up and then gravity distributes oil. if there is a proper seal in pump connection. it defenetly should not be.

[@fixitralphltd4988]

Where you come up with these ideas ill never know 😂

[@Poorexampeofhuman]

It's upside-down oil will drain into the cylinders past the rings. Put straight 50w or 90w maybe 5w50

[@kevinyancey958]

There's no reason am engine wouldn't run upside down. You would need better oil drainage to the valve covers, which are now the oil pans, and use a dry sump scavenging oil pump with a reservoir and full pressure lubrication. Many airplane engines of WWII had cylinders below the crankshaft, like radials, Junkers Jumo, and inverted V's. To prevent oil from flooding cylinders through valve guides or other means, you have to keep oil from pooling inside the engine.

[@eclectichoosier5474]

In radial engines, some of the cylinders are upside-down. They have been around for over 100 years

[@Mikepet]

Look at the Mercedes DB 600 Engines, they were "upside down" too. The difference they were made to be that way so it wont hydrolock.

[@MarcusSandoval-kx2th]

I hate modern cars with the accessories mounted on the lower portion of the engine smh 😒

[@andrewdouglasblakey3148]

Amazing, and less Lada smoke than usual

[@KartiacKID]

Thank you for all the laughs

[@donottouch9110]

I really like the community reaction very holesome

[@Mr_Meowingtons]

100% needs a dry sump setup and it will work good

[@tonystanton9223]

What about making a cylinder head out of oak ?

[@corollagl82]

How about a rotated transmission : the output shaft is driven by the engine while the inputshaft drives the differential.

[@DamianGillett]

Who would run an engine upside down ?...... Garage 54 LOL Nice video guys

[@anchito4709]

It will be so cool to make a 8 - cylinder lada boxer. Two lada engines with one common crankshaft.. 🤔😅

[@marumiyuhime]

The ME-109 has an inverted engine has to be a dry sump to work right but im pretty sure this has to be engineered from the beginning, gratz you turned a lada into a BMW

[@the_kombinator]

Fill it up with Lucas Oil stabilizer, perfect for this use-case.

[@chrisjayr]

Very interesting concept. What if somehow you could fit it to a car and chain/belt drive to a transmission to keep the original transmission angle to the driveline.

[@elementwar27]

He really said, “it should work, when have we ever failed?”

[@JJFX-]

I hate to be "that guy" but please be careful exposing the drive shaft like this. At least put some sheet metal between the drivers seat. All it takes is one little mistake to become part of every machine shop's lathe accident nightmare, even if it isn't spinning super fast. Not to mention if anything goes wrong while sitting next to it. That's that's far less likely but it's just not worth it the risk. It would take those guys like 30 min to make and tack weld a janky cover for that thing.

[@timothyaylesworth8752]

That freaked me out, too

[@martyburgess341]

I think you guys have peaked when it comes to ideas! 🤣🤣🤣

[@nameismetatoo4591]

"Engine is starved of oil" "Piston ring damage" "Connecting rods damaged" "Engine broken"