9mm XTREME DEFENSE Ballistic Gel Test! - Ballistic High-Speed

Bryce and Adam test out the 9mm XTREME DEFENSE ammunition from Grind Hard Ammo! The ballistic gel test reveals a lot of interesting differences to standard full metal jacket 9mm!
Video contents:
0:00 - BHS Intro
0:20 - Video Intro
1:23 - 9mm FMJ Gel Block Test
1:39 - 9mm FMJ High-Speed
2:11 - 9mm FMJ Gel Block Review
2:29 - 9mm FMJ Ultra High-Speed
2:59 - 9mm XTREME Gel Block Test
3:36 - 9mm XTREME High-Speed
3:57 - 9mm XTREME Gel Block Review
4:11 - 9mm XTREME Ultra High-Speed
4:43 - 9mm Final High-Speed Comparison

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

QUICK NOTE: I learned during the production of this video that the bullet "grain" refers to its mass, and not the grain measurement of the gunpowder. Apologies for misspeaking during the video!

[@stephensonger7324]

I appreciate the fact you say this. As someone who grew up around firearms and everything, I also assumed that’s what it was too. Learned maybe a year or two ago that it was bullet weight and not powder and went “huh.. I’ve been super wrong my whole life” lol

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

@@stephensonger7324 Thanks for being understanding! We're always willing to admit our mistakes and keep learning.

[@connorcarroll7677]

Good job! Just gonna tell you the same thing lol 👍🏻

[@tannersires9734]

It’s actually a very common mistake nothing to be ashamed of

[@farhan.naushad]

Low grain often results in higher velocity. Less mass to push. Have you tried Underwood Xtreme Defender yet?

[@jtotheshua885]

This is the cleanest and most clear slow motion footage of gel ballistics I’ve ever seen. I’ve scoured the internet and KZbin looking at these videos, to the point where my wife now hates KZbin. This was amazing. I hope to see more of these ballistic tests at this quality. Subscribed and liked, and left a comment for the algorithm gods. Top Notch fellas.

[@jtoker9758]

I've seen slower more clearer, but this was pretty good. Another trick I like that they don't tell you about is to rewatch the slowmo parts at 1/4 speed.

[@Hammerback972]

Heated gelatin with a heat gun provides added clarity

[@powertool64]

Just in case it isn't mentioned elsewhere, the reason for the secondary detonation in the gel is from the collapsing gasses. This is the same thing as a diesel engine combustion. The compression of the bubble collapsing compresses the gasses enough for ignition, and the fuel is either raw powder or the gel itself.

[@sdrbox]

thanks for clarifying, it happens inside a body too ?

[@javontinslet5181]

This is one of the best slo mo ballistics video's I've seen since Brass Fetcher. Great work guys

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thanks so much! That's much appreciated.

[@af7119]

Brass fetcher is what got me into ballistic gel testing way back in the day!

[@thealarmclock9307]

This is WAY BETTER than brass fetcher

[@Bixnoodle]

Dude my thoughts exactly. Brassfetcher is just such a legend

[@aliengoboom]

Great shots as always! Nice to see xou guys posting a video again.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Glad to have you back! Thanks for watching again

[@whiskeyssmile3082]

This is the channel I've been waiting for. Don't stop guys and keep your content consistent. Ya'll are on to something. Congrats!

[@javontinslet5181]

This is one of the best slo mo ballistics video's I've seen since brass fetcher. Great work guys

[@RU2AIM]

*_I'd sure like to see the Underwood Extreme Defender +P+ 90gr x 1550 fps tested against all others._*

[@INSXNX]

Me too!

[@alphazuluz]

Unfortunately, they seem to have some sort of deal with Grind Hard Ammo. Never heard of them, but that’s the ammo they always shoot.

[@toneeclark399]

That certainly looked like the Leheigh projectile that Underwood uses in Xtreme Defender. Military Arms Channel has a great comparison of 90 grain +P vs +P+ No high speed (that was cool) but very in-depth.

[@lennybrewster4673]

I like the 68 grain 1800 fps variety. Super lightweight

[@doghousedon1]

Me three.

[@devine532]

Your channel will grow tremendously if you keep up the quality of your videos like this. Amazing work, would love to see every grain of federal hst 9mm if ever possible.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thanks so much. We're doing our best!

[@blakeschmid]

Keep up the videos and your channel will get massive! This is the exact video I was looking for. Definitely subbed!

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thanks so much! Glad to have you here!

[@optimusprime9082]

@@BallisticHighSpeed you are the most amazing channel on KZbin. I absolutely love you. You truly are the best. In a few years you will reach more than 1 million subscribers

[@saltyguerrilla]

You’ve earned my sub. The footage is the clearest and best slow motion I’ve seen to date. Coupled with the amazing sound effect it’s a pure thrill to watch. 🦅🇺🇸

[@realamerican4186]

you guys have done a great job capturing things we never would have seen. everything is better in slo-mo.

[@sigspearthumb2313]

This channel is so under rated. Gives a whole new perspective.

[@civilian0005]

Just subscribed and I couldn’t be more stoked for what the future holds on this channel!!!!!! 😍🤩😍🤩

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thanks so much! Glad to have you here!

[@jesseherbert2585]

Outstanding footage! I want to point out that the Extreme Defense is solid copper. I plan to use for my deer hunting this fall, as literature shows lead fragments end up in game meat. They are very small particles, you are not getting them out. So all copper is a HUGE plus for these (no pun intended). The shape of these rounds also causes more energy to dump sooner as seen in your slow motion frames, also a great aspect. Last, I shoot into rubber mulch. It stops even rifle rounds, and for target practice I suspect I can reuse these in my reloading system a number of times. The rifling grooves may be able to be filled electrochemically, (and swage or sand high parts?). This ammo is close to a buck per round, but if my hunch is correct about the reusable nature of this design, it will be well worth it. Especially if 9mm ever gets hard to acquire down the road again (EMP, Solar Flare, stupid politics, etc.)

[@adambratcher2347]

Just a heads up less grain weight bullets normally always go faster and incase you was confused the grain weight is the bullet weight not the powder charge

[@minisforerbody]

Yessir! New video! I was on this as soon as I got the notification after how hectic the last video was.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Glad to have you back!

[@a.r.r.5626]

The BEST ammunition ballistics gel video I have ever seen. Bravo!

[@minisforerbody]

I’d love to see what the extreme and some other defensive rounds do on the anatomically correct ballistics dummies

[@randyadams03]

I just found BHS, this great. Subscribed yes . Keep uploading please thanks. I love this !!!

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thanks so much! Glad to have you here!

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Very well done. Great crisp footage.

[@finsrj]

Straight to the point. Excellent.

[@KevinWood44]

Slow mo is dope, officially one the coolest things I've seen on youtube

[@edwinmcnew4389]

That is awesome footage! Very nice!

[@thebeardedairgunner]

Awesome video as always gents!!!!

[@TheBlackKnight6]

Really great video...I think this channel is going to do really well as I don't know of another one like it on youtube...keep it up!! I would love to see hollow point vs FMJ also

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thanks so much! Glad to have you here!

[@cbs645]

Frickin awesome video. Thanks!

[@J.R.F.23]

I bought very similar ammunition from Underwood ammunition. The 90 grain Xtreme defense +p. Awesome to see your amazing video recordings

[@imad021994]

That's really an awesome video i can't wait for the next episodes 😁

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thank you!

[@imad021994]

@@BallisticHighSpeed you're welcome

[@kentwilliams3326]

Thanks much! Very well done! I use Underwood Extreme Defenders 90 grain and 68 grain for home defense.

[@anthonyalfano594]

Two videos in, and I'm loving this channel so far!

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thanks so much!! Lots more to come!

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

KZbin just finished processing in 4K instead of 360p, so feel free to watch again for much better image and sound quality!

[@Loriethalion]

Very interesting! Good job lads!

[@tscherry70]

Smith & Wesson 500 would be amazing to see in a short barrel revolver. I love this. Keep it up!

[@penfold357007]

Guys, this footage is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing 😊

[@RBWVETDOC]

Those projectiles are manufactured by Lehigh Defense. Underwood ammo has offerings in +p+ flavor with that 90 grainer

[@knowlzy0791]

Does Lehigh Defense make grind hard ammo? I thought GH owned their own production 🤔

[@RBWVETDOC]

@@knowlzy0791 I know Lehigh manufacturers the projectile. What head stamp is on the brass case?

[@michaelmiller4568]

@@RBWVETDOC your right Lehigh and underwood are the same. I have the underwood and it says jag on the headstamp

[@RBWVETDOC]

@@michaelmiller4568 hey bud. Some of my older +p+ has “ UNDRWD” head stamp … the newer stuff I have has that “JAG” stamp with gold color primers.

[@michaelmiller4568]

@@RBWVETDOC yeah I have some that both cases are jag but some have gold primers and some regular silver color. The boxes have different I queasy lot numbers. Made different times using what ever components they can get that are good quality. I know they get their bullets from lehigh they kind of partnerd up.

[@MegaSloth]

First time ever seeing this channel. Instant sub!

[@majoroz4876]

WELL DONE. Superb video work. All the information and none of the yak-yak bullshit. Thank you

[@Almost_Frozen2]

What an amazing video, very informative and very awesome

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@henryyu4694]

Wow i cant thank you enough for providing this insane quality video for free. Please try the liberty defense 9mm hollow point traveling at 2000 fps vs a 45 acp round. a lot of people think a heavier slow bullet does more damage than a fast light bullet. I believe a fast bullet is more deadly.

[@tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429]

Liberty defense is heavily debunked. It's a garbage round that severely underpenetrates. It basically turns to dust on impact.

[@henryyu4694]

@@tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429 overpenetration is useless because it means the force of the bullet is not quickly put into the target to wrangle the organs and deal fatal damage. A straight pass through will not do much. also, the bullet can end up in a innocent civilian.

[@Definitely-Not-A-Cop]

Somehow faster with less grains? That's very normal. With everything else being equal, a lighter projectile will have more velocity. 1,000 horsepower with push a Miata a heck of a lot faster than it will push a 3/4 ton 4 door pick-up. Great video btw. I'm looking forward to seeing your channel grow. Have a sub!

[@kutthroat2336]

Just throwing this out there for peoples knowledge. The Xtreme Defender bullets used by GH Ammo, Underwood and any others that use them are all made by Lehigh Defense. I believe they are all loaded to Lehigh specifications too. Just letting everyone know so they can check them out and see all the awesome bullets they make.

[@joshrandall3632]

It's clear in the first minute of video that you guys know more about photography/videography than firearms. Nothing wrong with that at all. Keep making these great videos and learning all you can. Thanks for bringing your expertise into the firearms realm and giving us these sweet videos.

[@Lowiqpeoplethinktheyresmart]

Keep more videos coming nice work

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thank you much!

[@chadderrington9983]

It's interesting to me to see the amount of unburnt powder from the handgun. I assume the burn would be more complete in a longer barrel and I'd like to see a video covering that.

[@LarrySealeArcheryCoach]

Great video. Would love to see you film Civil Defense or Pilgrim 9mm round, 50grain at 2000fps. , and their . 45 round, 78grain at 1900fps.

[@henryyu4694]

YES PLEASE THIS WILL PROVE THAT 9mm IS BETTER

[@warnerowe6424]

Great video 🔥🔥🔥

[@minisforerbody]

So cool to see how everything acts/reacts in slow mo. I can’t tell if it was just me or if (especially on the ball round) you could see the bullet yawing a little as it exits the muzzle? Also I noticed when you get the dieseling effects in the gel, it’s always when the largest section of the temporary cavity recompresses. I’m gonna end up watching this a few more times now to see if there’s any solid footage of what the bullet is doing to make the wound channel larger in one area compared to another. Because if you noticed the dieseling happened closer to the exit with the ball round (I think about where it began to tumble) and closer to the entrance on the penetrator round (which seemed to possibly start tumbling and doing that lateral rotation closer to the entrance wound). Definitely gonna watch this a few more times to analyse it like a real nerd.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

KZbin just finished processing in 4K instead of 360p, so feel free to watch again for much better image and sound quality!

[@99Knytes]

The larger cavities are due to the round beginning to transfer energy as it meets increased resistance; you can see how the shape of the bullet is a major factor in when the energy transfer occurs, especially in handgun calibers with short barrels and relatively low velocities.

[@henryyu4694]

The faster the bullet travels, the larger the cavity. That's why 556 is so deadly compared to 9mm. its cuz the high velocity puts so much trauma to ur organs.

[@1ColdfFire]

Coolest footage I've ever seen! Please test more rounds so I can pick my ammo better haha

[@mattwalters6834]

I’d say you know, generally lighter rounds are faster. Impressive work; certain ballistic gels like the one you’re using have more elasticity to them than human flesh. There are gels that are better at mimicking flesh, but this still gives you a good idea. Good job, again!

[@ramincybran]

clear image - clear ballistic gel - nice work dude's

[@djsgravely]

Wow. What a fun job you guys have.

[@m.kodila9477]

And i love your whole idea and a way you make this videos, all short clips not to much talking just right and important !! Love it and don t stop or change the idea. Btw I got one idea for you how to setup lower spread of bullet over balistics gel.

[@hstetser5376]

Its cool to see all the unburnt powder exiting the barrel and ejection port.

[@itsamk18-ish]

I have most of the rounds you mentioned just because i like seeing how different rounds blow up water jugs 😂. One weird one i haven’t shot yet is the arx 65gr the box says 1650 fps,it’s a weird copper polymer bullet that i want to shoot into gel. As far as carry ammo the only thing i carry is 147gr hst rounds, i load my own and have never seen one fail to open. I have loaded them on the low end of published load data and shot them out of my 43x and they still expand. For rifle ammo i use a 64gr soft point and a 55gr frangible bullet that i load. They both seem to work extremely well, compared to a vmax round the soft point just seems to dominate ime.

[@lacboiatl]

That was cool to see.

[@nullnullnullvoid]

insanely high production value on this channel

[@MrCopTom]

VERY Interesting and informative video! I just subbed your channel. Thanks for sharing. God bless ya'll.

[@donjon2682]

Sick slo mo 👌

[@johnaltom4522]

You may have addressed this somewhere else but, I think it would be good to clarify the close-up shots of the bullets leaving the barrel are not from the same wide shot of the pistol shooting the gel. Obviously, you only have so many cameras and an increasingly limited viewing area as frame rate goes up. I'm enjoying your channel! Looking forward to what you do next!

[@dirtyscoundrel2013]

This channel is awesome

[@ralphbryant8178]

1:40 this sound affects should be used in a movie. I’m surprised the camera picks up the small sounds like that

[@Centermass762]

It doesn't. The sounds are added in post processing. There are guys who specialize in creating fake slow-motion sound effects to be added to slow-mo videos. If they used the real sound, it would sound like very loud radio static.

[@Woodyyyy]

So cool to see

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed

[@erik2g19s]

I spy an fde frame with threaded barrel shooting the gel then I see a regular 19 when showing the rounds come out the muzzle I wonder if that would affect the velocity with the extra half inch of barrel 😁. Love the videos gents!

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

We had to shoot some of the high speed video on a different day because of weather 🙂 but that’s a great question!

[@stuartlunsford7556]

So cool to see an FMJ round tumble and cause more of a wound channel right at that point.

[@427SuperSnake1]

Need to get some good 300 blackout and 5.56 defensive ammo vs torso. But make sure you do not use subsonic ammo for the 300 AAC. As almost all defense ammo in 300 is supersonic at 120 grains or less.

[@UnApologeticPatriot]

Great video, I wonder how many caught the fact that the B roll G19 is NOT the one used in the testing lol. Great job though.

[@JR-ld1et]

Dude that jelly is awesome lmao

[@klanceyshane6275]

I would love to see one on the controlled chaos round by Lehigh defense

[@JudeFunk37]

The "grain" is the weight of the bullet not the amount of propellant inside the case. I made the same mistake when I was "newer" to guns.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Also learned that while shooting this video! My experience is only in high speed imaging, so definitely plenty for me to learn.

[@JudeFunk37]

@@BallisticHighSpeed LOVE the videos brother!! Always a great thing for more brothers and sisters to join the 2A Community and Protection of yourself and loved ones. 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@FritzelMedia]

Love it!

[@Gieszkanne]

Interesting to see that both were tumbling espacially the XTREME DEFENSE. There is a manufacturer that make special bullets/ammo that is designer for tumbling TUI Tumblin Upon Impact.

[@Hyper_drive214]

subscribed. the slow mo's are fucking awesome.

[@KingMusa99]

This round in a pcc or 5 in barrel would be a 🔥💯 video. This DEFINITELY was 🔥too

[@lowtdave]

Oh wow...just found this channel. 50k frames basic fmj 9mm....can see it tumble on its side about halfway in. Pretty darn amazing camera tech here.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Absolutely! And thanks for watching! Glad to have you here.

[@samuel-JF1981]

Guys, you need to take a look on tradicional bullets like Keith's semi wad cutters, and compare it with one or two modern defense bullets! I'm sure everyone will get shocked!

[@warnerowe6424]

Would love to see what a wad utter would do

[@c2099]

That corkscrew action was cool

[@scottlehman9738]

Very cool

[@deathdragon2283]

This is exactly what I’ve been looking for for quite some time. The advertised function of the flutes on the projectile don’t seem to function at all like Lehigh advertised them to. Rather they induce a very controlled tumbling inside the target. I don’t know why they didn’t say that, as it’s an actually tried and true method to increase the size of the wound channel unlike the claimed fluid dynamics BS that doesn’t work the way they claim. I avoided the ammo because I didn’t trust it’s effectiveness would translate to to actual tissue, but seeing the way it actually works suggests it should translate just fine. So it should not only have a comparable wound channel as many hollow points, it’s not going to get clogged or be damaged by barriers.

[@michaelhinman1770]

Look up "right hand rule" in reference to mechanical engineering

[@tylerlewis6204]

Could you guys compare G9 external hollowpoints vs Inceptor ARX in 9mm and 40s&w? Awesome Channel and thanks for your work! +1 Subscriber right here!

[@mackmane6529]

That is awesome

[@KD-lb9bg]

If you guys are mystified by a lighter projectile traveling at a higher speed then I'm not holding out much hope for the video, Lol. Also, you might want to reference that it's a Lehigh bullet as loaded by several ammunition manufacturers. Post viewing - great footage nonetheless, thanks for that, and I also saw your pinned comment providing your explanation. Good that you got that sorted.

[@SouthTexasRed]

Would love to see y’all shoot a 10mm Auto through one of those body gel torso’s!!

[@jamesfaul348]

That was fun to watch. So the extreme ammo’s shape, allows the force of the bullet to affect closer to its impact point rather than further away? So, a human torso is shorter than a rectangle of gel; the original fmj looked like its force generated upon impact, affected the furthest end of the gel the most, so when a 9 would hit a person, the most force generated is after it passes through?

[@ryofuyumi5524]

you guys are so massively underrated, it's not even funny. I subscribed though. KZbin monetization is probably killing yall though

[@cocowonderdog]

Great video! What causes the detonation (when the bullet passes through) in the medium?

[@Benitoapplebum]

I was gonna ask the same. Very curious

[@99Knytes]

The temperature of a gas increases as it comes under increased pressure. Compress a gas hard enough, it can reach a critical temperature, and go boom. Same concept is used in diesel engines; no spark plugs, just a mist and compression from the engine pistons. Those little combustions are caused by gas (aka air) being sucked into the channel by the bullet's wake then being trapped, and compressed to the point of auto-ignition by the collapsing temporary cavity(s). You can see the same thing happening in slow-mo footage of (simulated) depth charges.

[@douglastaylor43]

I would love this on all 9mm ammunition

[@josearellano5778]

Awesome video fellas‼️ 😳😲😵👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🎯🎯🎯💯💯 I think Lehigh defense or Underwood have the same projectile‼️ I'd like to see a test between the round you showed and the lehighs or underwoods Extreme Penetrator and Is extreme defender

[@skeetskeetmfer]

Guys, this is awesome!! Can you please do Black Hills Mk262 Mod 1 vs. Mil Sepc M193?

[@Hammerback972]

The sound these high speed cameras pick up is certainly not what I thought slowed projectiles would sound like on impact

[@foxtrotcoy200203]

awesome.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Lehigh Defense bullets, their "claims" that the fluted tip bullets direct fluids perpendicular from the tip of the bullet and create permanent wound cavity larger than projectile. The actual fact is, their bullets are tumbling, much like a FMJ tumbles, but due to the sharp features, probably do a bit more tearing when they tumble. I'd still go with an expanding hollowpoint, whether lead or copper type.

[@joer8386]

This is utterly and completely false. The reason it is tumbling is because they are using silicone-based gelatin. They need to use organic just like the FBI uses to get accurate results.

[@PapaA7145]

It would be cool to add a color coded inch scale on the poster board behind the gel.

[@__-pl3jg]

It would be great if there wasn't a bunch of popups at the end of the video covering the comparison shots at 50,000fps.

[@butterzaries4277]

Real quick I realize that when he shot the ballistics jail the second time he had a gun that had a extended barrel like a muzzle brake with a black slide and dark OD Green body but when it showed the dramatic slow motion effect of the close-up of the Glock it was a all black Glock with no extended barrel what's up with that and you can clearly see how flimsy the gun is whenever it ejects and the slot forces back but the polymer front bottom of the slide is bouncing like a rubber band

[@HarshmanHills]

several interesting points in this video. the cavitation was very nice in both but more so with the extreme. the tumbling is an interesting result. what recipe did you use for the gel? and the lighter bullet in the extreme defense did seem to be going a lot faster.

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Glad you enjoyed the video! We didn’t make the gel ourselves, it was sent to us by ballistic dummy lab. But yes, lots of very interesting details!

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

KZbin just finished processing in 4K instead of 360p, so feel free to watch again for much better image and sound quality!

[@HarshmanHills]

@@BallisticHighSpeed i thought i noticed that the quality was a little lower than expected

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

@@HarshmanHills yeah, it seems like KZbin lately has taken a long time to process high definition files. Especially 4K.

[@HarshmanHills]

@@BallisticHighSpeed it really does. that is one of the reasons i upload my videos several days normally before to allow for any issues such as that or monetization

[@XiiShadowiiX]

Are you guys gonna do this with the there .45 extreme ammo? Would love to see it!

[@goodlifehacker]

Awesome! What causes those mini explosions to happen inside the gel?

[@yomama4736]

Do the Lehigh XD against Fed HST. That would be a cool comparison.

[@bigcleveland6210]

New sub right here guys 🖐

[@BallisticHighSpeed]

Glad to have you here!

[@jasonanderson261]

Lol now ya got it. Channel has great potential and some true blue gun guys will watch IF ..... you do your homework. Alot of us would love to see the standard fbi clothing gel test in super slow mo... federal hst, speer gold dot, hornady critical defense....