Garbage Holders - AVOID These Grading Slabs! Don't Be Fooled!

[@terryburner1511]

I’m old school. Grading is so subjective. Been collecting for over 60 yrs, before all the so called slabbed coins. Now, last decade plus with the extremely large counterfeiting both raw and slabbed have just about given up. Especially online. Even the slabbed coin holders get scratched n dirty from handling and like Daniel points out. Sometimes it’s hard to catch slight flaws and imperfections. Buyer beware. Thanks Daniel for your time and investment and knowledge, your website especially to those new to the hobby.

[@edwardaustin740]

The magazine I got in the mail last week from Littleton ( which I've never had or never will buy from ), they have their own slabbed holders. They are called ' genuine ' coins in " deluxe " holders. That put a smile on my face because I know better after 30 of collecting. It only takes 1 person to get 'got ' though. Since being around since 1945 you'd think they'd know better about the prices. They don't seem to care. It's sad.

[@GabbityGabby]

The first "graded" coin I bought was a SGS Morgan Dollar, when I was a kid, a new collector and didn't know any better. Thanks for putting this information out there Daniel!

[@anthonykaminskasbenjihunter]

Before I send any coins for real grading. I refer to the ANA Grading Guide. Their instructions and real time photos get me pretty close to the actual grade. If you don't have one try to pick up a copy. Also get your coins graded by reputable companies. My rant. God Bless us Everyone.

[@paulbruney1704]

Good morning Sir Daniel! Pray all's well with the family and team!

[@dekauffman]

I too, had bought many of the difference holders shown on your site through the years. I had a lot that just by twisting the holder and having it open up at the seam, made me quickly realize what I fool I was to take a chance. and once in raw status, even sent some in for grading only to be given another lesson of looking a coin over more thorough before doing such a thing... If theres money to be made, someone out there is working their butts off to skim or scam the next innocent victim.

[@taylorism5613]

Follow the golden rule, buy the coin not the holder! I just purchased a handful of Accugrade coins and had the seller cover the grades. That way I wouldn't be influenced and could make the decision based purely on the coins.

[@scratchy271]

I never knew about Blanchard. Thanks for the information. I learn something new every time you put out a video

[@lawrencestack7416]

Thank you for your videos. I have been learning a lot.

[@spfadden082711]

I’m pretty new at collecting so I really appreciate these videos

[@667hodge]

Back in 2011,PCI was charged for fraud and racketeering for slabbing counterfeit,damaged,and cleaned coins.

[@CoinHELPu]

Article? Link?

[@667hodge]

@@CoinHELPu tried to send you a link,but YT won't let me.It was a Coinworld article from 2015

[@ronalddavis670]

All your videos are greatly appreciated

[@davidho2977]

4:54 The 78-S Morgan looks like a pretty nice coin. Solid strike and not too many bag marks. It might be higher than 64+. Maybe a good candidate for a crack-out?

[@charlesdudley5800]

PCGS & NGC are the only 2 companies I use. I like your vids. You have a new subscriber.

[@swmovan]

I have always been a suspicious person. Years ago, when I first got into collecting, I did buy a coin "lot"(estate sale) with several INB coins. I did research the company at the time, so I knew not to pay too much. The coins do look good, but as Daniel said, they do appear over-graded. (several PF69-70) If not, I don't believe I could have gotten them for the price I did. There were several quarter, dime, and nickel proofs, along with a few odd things thrown in, such as arrow heads & solid color marbles. (I never understood why marbles were included)

[@shannonsmith8914]

I just bought a few slabs from the International Numismatic Bureau, and all were MS-70. I didn't pay a lot for them, but I was helping a guy out, and wanted to see what they were about. Some of the coins were loose and sliding around inside the holders. The coins are nice enough to be an album filler, but no way they would get a 70 from anyone else.

[@tyrel6732]

I enjoy looking through your coin database every now and then. Fun to look at all the different slabs and read about them

[@darbysdownhomedetecting]

Garage graders.... By the coin not the slab... Great episode Daniel.

[@gailkinney8683]

Very helpful video, Daniel. It's nice to have this info all in one place.

[@louisvrana7526]

Just keeping it short today. Daniel you are Super Awesome!! I greatly appreciate you happily sharing your endless amount of numismatic knowledge you've worked hard over the years to acquire. God bless, Louis

[@dougwagoner2620]

Teaching us as always thank you Daniel

[@rsitch1]

Excellent information ! Bob

[@LAYLAOFFICIAL]

Nice sharing keep going 100 like my friend

[@daveybreeden6645]

You are so right about that

[@johnlarue2248]

Thanks Daniel. Have seen a few before that I had never heard of. Excellent instructions!

[@jamesdawson9439]

Thanks for all you do .

[@bradmccubbin1569]

Great information Daniel, thank you!

[@intothecalm420]

When I was new to eBay 15- 20 years ago I used to fall for this all the time. Now occasionally I snipe one for a good deal. (I do consider them a raw coin) Usually it works out. But it is always a gamble.

[@tedsmith5058]

Hello from the great state of Michigan. Great content

[@banthony33]

Thanks for the videos, just like to ask is PCS company legit have walking liberty half dollar

[@thebrainreigns1858]

Good morning Daniel keep up your great work !

[@benscoinsandcomputers7863]

Good advice!! Thanks!!!

[@papiparsons9045]

Great info on grading companies. Appreciate your content

[@nickeldime3867]

That helps a lot but i stay with ANA NGC PCGS THANKS AGAIN DANIEL.

[@josepchwill1304]

Thanks for the video.

[@joannamaz8246]

I bought quite a bit off that police auction site and now questioning every coin i bought

[@wanlah4436]

I am pretty new at collecting but I have been learning a lot.

[@markoverman9628]

The sheer number of these amazes me!

[@TruthLivesNow]

An excellent video Daniel! On thing worth mentioning is that Ebay used to not have the Coin Grading Policy that they do now, which is: "Listings for graded coins and currency must have been graded by an eBay-approved company such as NGC, PCGS, ANACS, ICG, PMG, or Legacy Currency Grading." I focus on PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG, and older PCI on my Graded Coins. I do have two SEGS, that they graded the Winged Liberty Dimes in them: "Genuine" That is OK to me. I pickup PCI when I see it, I did not know about Blanchard, and will look for a good Coin in a Blanchard Holder. I have had ABC's in the past, and sold them off on Ebay.

[@TruthLivesNow]

I have heard in that past that the Original Hallmark was a good Grading Company. I have never seen one of those holders/coins for sale before. I am looking at your chart. Some years ago I had two Morgans graded by CCGS I bought, and then sold on Ebay.

[@paulbruney1704]

Great info! Have a great day Sir!

[@abemagsayo4463]

Thanks!!!

[@MarkA-Coins]

Thanks Daniel. I usually will only buy from the top 3 but I have bought a couple of coins graded by PCI. Buy the coin and not the slab. Not heard of Blanchards before. Self graded/slabbed by personal folks, nope.

[@tom_morgandealer_pgh1648]

pci is alright but at this point in 2022 anacs is super popular and is finally holding nice premiums. if your not gonna send into pcgs ngc or anac dont waste your money just toss it in a cardboard holder or get those ngc looking lighthouse slabs there like 2 3 bucks on ebay. i bought some for my some raw silver ikes and proof franklins and there worth ever cent. great video thanks

[@joeovalle7775]

You keep nailing all the bad stuff people do to make a buck and ruin the hobby for those that dont pay attention and fall for the catch phrases thank you Daniel

[@pdlegend6829]

Good info...I have some slabbed coins I bought in the early 2000s on Ebay from some of those companies...NTC, SGS and a couple others... What do you suggest doing with these if you have them today?

[@Teacher-1388]

Always great information. Thanks

[@MPHamOnt]

We have ICCS in Canada that dealers seem to like but the holders look pretty pretty dull and plain to me.

[@typeviic1]

Het Daneil, nobody answered my question in the help community on Washinton Crossing Delaware in the "Mint error/variety" section.

[@CapitalCurrency]

Another great video my friend

[@verlonmckay2346]

Another Great Video Have a great day

[@thebrainreigns1858]

Good morning Daniel keep up your great work

[@Stackinginvestments1]

Great info once again.

[@braedenmckee2996]

I love using your mintstate coin technologies price guide!! I just noticed that 1936 d quarters it says are worth more in g3 than g4 is there a way to report bugs like that? Keep up the great work!

[@CoinHELPu]

Through the website email

[@flagumby0001]

Unless it's a "PCGS or NGC," grade also Heritage Auctions I don't buy anything from Etsy/eBay coin related over inflated prices

[@Mister_T_from_Erie_P]

Good video.

[@paulbruney1704]

I'll have to borrow your lists!

[@adamjam9541]

What is sad is state Ag Offices don't care or rarely do you see convictions , notifications or disbarment actions on their websites about these companies. We know who they are it is the general public who is unaware

[@tylonnplatinumthe3rd659]

Watch out for new PCI coins. They were recently taken over by a eBay seller known as Centsles who has now moved to putting their coins in these holders mostly instead of the NNC holders they used for so long. PCI used to be decent and I’ll buy the old green or gold holders I won’t completely overlook them because there is a occasional decent coin in one of those holders. That 78s you have is actually way nicer then most of their coins. It must be older because nowadays they would call that a Ms66-67 not 64+

[@CoinHELPu]

Good information

[@keithberryman7000]

All the Rainbow Colored coins!

[@txspyrate4446]

So, what is the raw coin "deep discount" that you mention?

[@richestninjas1881]

I live for in Canada, so I prefer the ICCS

[@grassman3649]

I have a PCI graded coin to 1963 half dollar graded at MS 68 I definitely think it's overgraded it's definitely MS I don't think MS 68 but then again I'm not a professional at grading coins in not in a green holder tho it's in like a a brownish one on the back is 215085 032 followed by a barcode under that and then FRH63 but it's still a beautiful coin it even has a little bit of toning going on in the corner

[@milesgentry850]

Great info..still don't know how they can make fakes and get away with it😞

[@76biggdogg]

How about ICG ?

[@dalestoner2928]

With ICG even their grading seems to be the sticking point with them you are still getting the real thing. Good info what to look out for when buying a slabbed coin.

[@everettwhite9874]

If the majority of the coins you showed were bought to your shop, what were your customers’ reaction after you told them that their graded coins didn’t have the value of similar graded coins from the top three or four TPG companies? BTW, do you break out any of those coins out and resubmit them or just resale them as is?

[@louisgagnon6378]

Can you tell me about Hallmark grading services green label your opinion would be great .

[@CoinHELPu]

I don’t have an opinion on the company.

[@appalachianoutlawcoins9523]

I've never heard of any of them, but I'm glad i watched this because I'm buying graded coins now and i would have been the 1 to buy them lol

[@SpokaneSilverStacker]

I have one of the blanched slabs that is a Franklin PR64. My LCS sold it to me for $14. I thought it was a good deal. $1 more than what he paid for it.

[@AdventureswithBrandonR]

Hello, I'm currently sending off a 1955 and 1958 Lincoln wheat penny. I can't tell by the naked eye myself if there are any errors. Is it still worth it to send it off to ngs as a mint error and pay the $18 fee for them to check? Because my coins are in great condition for the year and are ms coins I just don't want to waste money in the long run. Thanks for any reply (s).

[@rodsimonson9175]

Any comments about cccs in canada?

[@sidneybutler3902]

I'm looking for pictures of the different holders NGC has used over the years for a presentation I will be done next month for my coun club. Any help would be appreciated.

[@wanlah4436]

Hi Daniel, I found a 2010P Sacagawea dollar in clad, did they officially make this coin in clad.

[@CoinHELPu]

Yes, it is a clad layered coin.

[@wanlah4436]

It is worth money or not.

[@aleisterblacke]

I have a quarter from one of these. It's graded MS-70. The quarter is a modern, state, quarter, and has scratches all over it. Glad it was given to me, and I didn't buy it! LOL

[@wanlah4436]

Hi Daniel , I have a question for you. I found a 2010P , possibly a Transitional Error Sacagawea dollar in clad so ,is this real , did they officially make this coin in clad or is this a Transitional Error Sacagawea dollar. Please can you let me know.

[@emilphoryew9436]

Numistrust (NTC) is still around. They moved to South Carolina. I recommend doing business with them. Nice people work there.

[@CoinHELPu]

I don't, they're not respected in the community and coins in their holders are treated as ungraded coins by most collectors and dealers.

[@emilphoryew9436]

@@CoinHELPu Most people in the numismatic hobby have no knowledge about these third-tier coin slabbers because they never tried them due to being stigmatized by the industry, but some actually are quite good. SEGS and NTC are the gems among them. NTC and SEGS holders preserve the specimens nicely. Their turnaround rates are much faster than PCGS or NGC. NTC rates are just $10 for all non-gold pieces, SEGS $15 for regular U.S. coins. Both SEGS and NTC grade fairly accurately. SEGS grades more conservatively, rivaling PCGS. Both deserve a fair chance, which neither have been given. People ought to try sending them less valuable pieces as an experiment and see how they do. If the grading results seem accurate, try selling them in their holders. If people buy them, then slab more valuable pieces with them in a second submission.

[@CoinHELPu]

@@emilphoryew9436 I know all about these companies. I know the owner of SEGS personally and he has people manning his tables at shows in Ohio. Do you know what grading company his coins are in? Not SEGS, he doesn't have one coin in his cases, graded by his company, and that is what my point is.

[@emilphoryew9436]

@@CoinHELPu SEGS needs to do more to promote themselves to be a first-class service. They don't even have boxes to house their slabs or an auction site dedicated to promote selling their brand. You need to be a good marketer to get ahead and this is where they fail. Being a great coin grader alone isn't enough. I know Larry Briggs too, had many chats with him by phone.

[@landonburke2772]

Tell you what, my nephew can set me up so I am able to sample the Ware's

[@mikecruz5343]

What are your thoughts on SGS GRADING?

[@CoinHELPu]

It's not a real grading company.

[@TheRosebud1876]

Are ANI slabbed coins at a serious risk of being fakes or are they just way over graded but real typically?

[@TiHerr74]

Hey Daniel. If you ever want to sell one of your Coin Guy holders, would love to add it to my collection. Thanks!

[@CoinHELPu]

It’s dacoinguy so not the same as spegs channel coin guy

[@TiHerr74]

@@CoinHELPu - thanks Daniel. I would still be interested in adding it to my collection. I have close to 100 different “ABC” holders now but nothing from da coin guy!

[@jackfrost6611]

👍👍👍👍

[@jasonlarman788]

Would love for an attorney general to go after INB . They are the biggest scammer out here and newbies like myself didn’t know any better until I seen yours and another guys videos

[@CoinHELPu]

Me too.

[@kattragaddadhanyasri1726]

I had old British Indian silver coins can you please help me to sell for correct price

[@paulbruney1704]

I need to make a list of avoidable companies and look up a list of Reputable dealers

[@danielcarlsen2217]

I have 2 of the companies you say are not good

[@jj18057]

I wouldn't touch ANYTHING new by SEGS. The owner is the son of key date coins in new jersey. Many of the coins sold in KDC auctions are SEGS graded. You really call it 3rd party at that point?

[@HertelsCoins]

They are definitely running a grading scam. I hope they get caught, the owners have already spent time in jail once for a multi million dollar mortgage loan scam.

[@emilphoryew9436]

Best name for a coin grading service: PVC COINS! LOL!

[@donaldcombs7701]

More less if i buy something in one of those companies holders i will only buy it as if its raw.

[@landonburke2772]

I'd like to buy a coin just so I can say I got it from you. I'll have to do it the hard way cause I don't have a bank account... My choice

[@andy-ti9zf]

a lot of marketing gimmics out there

[@igibon8]

Is it just me or there is someone like me, I do not like coins in the boxes that I can not open and touch them.

[@gcbranger1189]

accented is a red flag.

[@CoinHELPu]

Our Website portsmouthcoinshop.com/ CoinHelpu Community coinauctionshelp.com/forum/index.php

[@wanlah4436]

Who can I trust if my coin is this real.

[@markbelanger7394]

Dont be.fooled again

[@robertomazariegos9391]

Hi Daniel. I'm your fan. I like what you do and say. I have questions, I'm a Collector and I will like to share with you and may you help me. Tell me the best way to contact you. Thanks. Roberto

[@CoinHELPu]

I don’t offer one on one help. I have a help community for help. Thanks