Garden room timber base construction

[@AllenHart999]

Amazing video as always. Thanks.

[@cohenyoel83]

No vapour barrier under?

[@MrLegend139]

Great video again lads, although would have thought you’d do the steel shoes offsite rather than on, yes easily enough done on site but thought you’d have them all ready to go before even getting onsite, as in spending a few hours making 100 of them for a few different jobs. might make things abit more streamline perhaps

[@tobybeswick36]

You know there's some accurate joinery going on when the chainsaw comes out. Lovely machines them, they work great in kitchen fitting too

[@thegardenroomguru]

Toby, at what point would you decide a chainsaw would be useful fitting a kitchen? Right tool for the right job! You my friend are a right tool 😊

[@tobybeswick36]

@@thegardenroomguru haha! some of the kitchens i've seen look like they've been fitted with a chainsaw

[@steamboatwillie8517]

They're brilliant for butt and scribe work, and fitting 3G110's ! ;0)

[@Cablesmith]

So satisfying watching the floor joist sit down onto the shoes 👌🏼😂

[@happyface7342]

WTF..........How many electricians does it take to change a lightbulb 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

[@darrylkennedy2125]

Prime the steel and put flat square washers under the nuts. A bit of primer paint on the timber wouldn't go amiss either.

[@campbell2471]

Primed wood joists once cut are unprimed at the cut ends they didn't paint waterproofing on any of the cuts or chain saw notches so the base will absorb all the moisture and end up rotting way quicker that if they took the time to seal the cut ends. Also whats with the dodgy gluing of the floor panels with glue bulging out every where looks a right mess.

[@thegardenroomguru]

Uneducated comments, it’s expanding polyurethane glue, it’s designed to foam out🙄 timber is treated in a vac tank, meaning preservatives are drawn right into the wood🙄 Floor panels 🙄🙄

[@TonyCaseyIRL]

Not one person wearing a mask and everyone in constant close vicinity to each other. C'mon guys

[@dannymurphy1779]

Oh and one staff member off with it too. Doesn't seem legal does it.

[@Jack-Cabinetry]

They are outside in the fresh air, working hard. Could be worse, they could all be furloughed sat on their arses watching KZbin all day.

[@cryptodab3351]

🤡

[@rudders6012]

Why wiggle the drill bit rather than buying the next size up?

[@arh9745]

Tight fit?

[@shavenhaven6869]

Pressure treated 😆😆😆😆

[@andymccabe6712]

Statement - or question.......?!

[@tribalm0nkey]

Top videos mate I watch them all. Always informative always learning something and encourages me to do bigger jobs. Thanks for sharing your experience and your knowledge, most people don’t know that what your teaching is worth it’s weight in gold. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👏🏼 nice job!!!

[@AC-SlaUkr]

Nice, but one thought. Vermin. The insulation is not boarded from the bottom and rats will get in there, and dig themselves a lovely warm home. As the construction is bolted to the ground there is no access to remove them.

[@noelmulkeen]

Great question - I am wondering about this as well.

[@richardcannings9822]

Why is the channel not galvanised will rust

[@martin2514]

Good video. Is it just me or does he sound like a market trader selling Apple's and pears?

[@MrSeananners12345]

that made me laugh

[@hannahandgraemefeldbert7039]

Great video. Is there a reason why you didn't need to put a breathable membrane on this one?

[@mr.145]

Here is a tip for anyone using timber,near the ground,or fence posts,paint them with bitumen primer, its meant to be used for sticking roofing felt to concrete or steel,but when painted on timber it lasts for years.As a former Tarmac foreman i learnt it from guys that had being doing that since the 1940s.You can get from roofing suppliers,its a bit like thick creosote.

[@campbell2471]

I agree first mistake I spotted too! Primed wood joists once cut are unprimed at the cut ends they didn't paint waterproofing on any of the cuts or chain saw notches so the base will absorb all the moisture and end up rotting way quicker that if they took the time to seal the cut ends. Also whats with the dodgy gluing of the floor panels with glue bulging out every where looks a right mess.

[@Br0k3nLiNk]

@@campbell2471 Its an expanding adhesive, you cut it off when its set... He mentioned that at the end its just the cold weather meant it was taking longer to go off.

[@simonnicholashenry]

That sole plate isn’t pressure treated pal.

[@EcoMan-te4vu]

2:38 said it is- "been in the bath"

[@hazzaselby]

Would benefit from a DPC laid under it too.

[@wilkinsoncarpentry6278]

You guys are very fast but I wonder why u havnt got a coil nailer for the joist hangers yet, we all Know that’s the worst job on a building site , have you seen the paslode coil gun ? Cordless has gun?

[@Robbie-fq9zr]

Doesn’t the moisture come through the floors insulation. I’m only asking because I’m looking at building a room for myself using your videos as guidance

[@thegardenroomguru]

No mate, the floors off the ground allowing air circulation, the insulation will never become wet and it doesn’t absorb moisture like a sponge would

[@Robbie-fq9zr]

@@thegardenroomguru thanks

[@TheToolnut]

@@thegardenroomguru Yup, 👍 plus the foil backing on the PIR, 👍🔨🇮🇪

[@cheapcharlie7]

Liam, should you wish to use a power tool to run those nuts down your rods quickly, take a deep impact rated socket, cut the socket into 2 where the socket changes shape from the nut shape to the area where the socket converts to the drive attachment, weld a piece of pipe at your desired length in between the two pieces of the socket.

[@thegardenroomguru]

This is happening! Thank you for the tip 👌

[@ryanolden5304]

When is the Amy calendar 📅 going to be released? 🤣

[@solomonpoole1369]

never clicked so fast ! fantastic stuff

[@TheStandardstory]

Me: I would love to build my own garden office Also me: aghh can’t be asked to find part 2 of this video. Love your work though lads 👍🏾

[@bigbadwolf333]

Lol. Why does this comment not have a million likes 🤔

[@ricardo-iw9sq]

Luv ya vids I hate it when people go on about health and safety it spoils a good show but if your using mag drill or pistol drill you don't want to be wearing gloves with anything that's spinning, I'm toolmaker of 30+ years and it's one of the things I shout at guys on drilling never wear clothing that pulls you into the tool, ooh small rant over sorry. Just a thought when you buy the square washer for in the ground you should get them to nock some 3mm thick washers to go between the wood and top nut this will stop the nut from just pulling into the wood, I have done a system like this for years for guys doing sleeper retainer walls. Hope this lock down don't stop you from carrying on working 👍 hope my rant isn't taken to heart.

[@markevans9130]

As long as he doesn’t put his hand in to clear the swarf as it drills then it’s not a problem. It’s bloody cold too, so gloves are a bonus 😂. On the subject of swarf clearing, try a evolution cyclone magnetic wand , works a treat

[@ricardo-iw9sq]

@@markevans9130 cold or not I've seen a few guys with nasty scars when a loose item got close, don't get me wrong health and safety pen pushers do my head in I've been on job sites and the safety knob has made things worse in the sence of not being able to repair a machine.

[@rodgerrodger7551]

Why are you not using galvanized channel for the shoes.It doesn’t seem like the best option when the rest of the build would appear to be of a very high standard ?

[@skyhigheagleer6]

I would also be inclined to wrap some DPC around the channel to prevent condensation being absorbed up into the wood

[@ozzyefc44]

Rodger Rodger theyre hardly going to get wet . They’re raised off the floor under cover so they’ll hardly rust there’s more chance of the wood rotting before the shoe corrodes and the build is that well done it’ll take years for the wood to rot

[@Palo-jm7xc]

There's no point as when you cut the length of PFC youd compromise the galvanising. TBH the web of the PFC is like 8mm thick so would take a long time to corrode to the extent that it fails.

[@davidharber6261]

Totally inspired for planning a garden room. Brilliant stuff!

[@DavidSmith-nd6pj]

All steel should b primed really

[@spencercooper-thorn2624]

Even galvanised?

[@andymccabe6712]

It's around 8mm and it's basically gonna be in 'dry' conditions under the floor. It'll last for centuries ......!

[@naybobdenod]

And thats how it should be done. Lovely job and will last a very long time. Kind regards John.

[@millwalltopboys]

Nice job guys...on such a short span could you not have used 8x2 floor joists and saved digging the extra holes?

[@jimmymcfadyen4912]

That would lift the build another 100mm. It wouldn’t come under 2.5m then.

[@jpk2742]

Nice work but I wouldn't feel comfortable not laying the joints on the joists. Its just as easy to make the joints land on the joists.

[@thegardenroomguru]

No need to feel uncomfortable fella, it works, so relax

[@jpk2742]

@@thegardenroomguru I am relaxed, drinking a cup of coffee on a fresh morning. Your method wouldn't pass on a house inspection. Anyway Great videos keep them coming, they are brilliant to watch.

[@collcolin]

@@jpk2742 Joist are on hangers in houses have been for years some even go on masonry hangers instead of sitting on the party wall

[@jpk2742]

@@collcolin yes I know.

[@triggerking135]

Great watching the team and brand grow. I've been looking at your self build plans on your website too, hope to move forward with a build next summer! 🤞

[@PeteWoodcock]

How did you put the 250 screws at the enclosed corner?

[@Jonbuildz]

more videos please fella, any decking ones please and would you follow similar process?

[@mgdew]

cracking videos as normal Will, appreciate all the time you put in to help us DIY'ers - is there anywhere that sells the steel shoes already made that would work with your M24 Threaded pile system ? Ideally rather buy a bundle pre made than invest in the tools needed to bore the holes and then cut them to size.

[@thegardenroomguru]

There’s a guy on my facebook Let me find his number for you

[@thegardenroomguru]

Adam Todd 07801240985

[@gs425]

You could use big washers

[@iamactuallyover18]

Good vid! It's clear you're a real expert and explaining all the detail in what you're doing is interesting to watch :)

[@jamesmooney1261]

Great video again - huge thanks! Is there a minimum distance that a garden room needs to be sited away from the main house? This one looks close.

[@Saxondog]

Be careful how you use that chainsaw. Never drop start it but support the rear handle between your legs as you pull the start cord. Be aware of kickback as well when you are bore cutting. Let the underside of the bar enter the timber first then square up the bore/plunge cut.

[@andrewclifford3595]

Do you use stainless steel rods?

[@thegardenroomguru]

no mate, there zinc plated, possibly using galv soon if I can get them at the right price, but these are fine

[@noelmulkeen]

Love your work! Bought your plans for a 7m x 3.5m :-) One question though on vermin (mice, rats etc) making a home for themselves under the structure. Any thoughts on that?

[@tomwills2309]

Doesn’t 4x2 floor joists bounce all over the place? I can kinda get 4x3 with metal shoes taking the bounce out of the perimeter beams but even then I’d probably go abit more beefy timber. I suppose 22mm chipboard helps with the bounce too but I’d of said it’s abit thin for floor joists.

[@libbykeur2698]

Guys, as the floor is suspended, I wonder how you fill the gap underneath? And how much gap you leave?? 🧐 your videos are great by the way...

[@jamiestewart1644]

Compared to the one being built next door to me - this is built like a fortress! They're screwing the floor joists in through the header with a couple of screws, and I'm not talking 250mm screws either. No joist hangers and 17k!

[@pete1885]

Hi mate. Just been watchin your vids as I'm in the process of building one. Can I please ask when the floor is laid do you allow it overlap on the outer edges or is it flush? Cheer Pal 👍

[@michaelyouens6133]

Shit hammer and I have not got the words for your hat !!! And what trade are you ? And I like how more gays are doing a bit 👍😬🥒

[@thegardenroomguru]

Omg, your an intelligent individual ain’t you? How old are you? Surly not past 14 yet? Better turn your computer off before mummy calls and tells you it’s time for bitty 🤟🏻

[@stevenjames191]

Hi 'liam what was the flooring called what you used on this build im thinking i might use it thank you

[@buttplug3871]

22mm egger protect. For a top job, land all joints on a joist......👍

[@andymccabe6712]

@@buttplug3871 when correctly polyurethane glued, the joint is as strong as the wood(at least!) - so it doesn't matter where the join falls. As he said......!

[@danielmuir2470]

@@andymccabe6712 It actual says in the manufactures fitting instructions "All short end joints should always fall on the centre of a secured joist" and nhbc guidelines say "short edges should be supported on joists or noggings or cut back to form a butt joint over a joist" 🤦‍♂️.

[@pete1885]

@@danielmuir2470 so you buy more of their product

[@griftersvids9085]

That’s not pressure treated, I don’t care what they told you!

[@paulfarrar8846]

Why do you need to know the highest point and can you show how to find the highest point without a laser. Loving all of your stuff

[@beckjumper5787]

If you start levelling at the lowest point when you get to the highest point you won’t be able to bring it down because the ground is in the way mate. You can find the highest point with a level just takes longer and harder to be accurate mate.

[@briangadsby6653]

Save you a load of time if you had those steel shoes pressed from 6mm plate with the hole pre punched in them and either painted or galvanised and just take them to the job with you from your stores

[@thegardenroomguru]

Times have moved on from that video mate. We couldn’t get them at a reasonable price, but now we get them supplied cut and drilled 👍🏼

[@simonharris7486]

These videos are great, thank you. Question. Is there a way to work out what timber I need for a 4m wide x 3 deep garden room. I’ve a solid concrete base and confident to do the framing, but can you point me to a good online calculator do I can work out all the required wood for walls and ceiling. I’ll be going for a warm room option. Thanks I’m advance.

[@darrylkennedy2125]

Actually for all that work wouldn't it have been easier to box it up and pour a concrete slab ??

[@fireblade8905]

You are correct

[@cianh6432]

True and it would not rot out after five years

[@andymccabe6712]

@@cianh6432 what is it with people like you?? There's nothing more ridiculous than confidence in ignorance! In other words, you don't know what you're talking about - but your arrogant enough to think you do.....!!

[@cianh6432]

Unprimed steel,untreated timber and no vapour barrier in a wet damp climate will effect the lifespan of the building.

[@thegardenroomguru]

You need to watch more mate, always fit a vapour barrier, do you actually know the rust rate of steel? I do

[@christopherspeers4769]

Where do you get your pins

[@robmep9175]

Do you think this type of base construction could be used for gym/weight lifting. All the equipment and someone dropping large weight? Obviously rubber floor it to protect. What are you our thoughts. Great video's shame about the price of products these days but that's not your fault. Keep it up

[@thegardenroomguru]

No issues mate, think of a gym, say in a mill, old school! Floorboards on joists, I’d have non issues

[@robmep9175]

@@thegardenroomguru cheers I've been watching all your vids. I'm a keen DIY guy so might have a go if product gets cheaper. I'm in Brighton. Trying to get a price on the rods and metalwork. Struggling locally so can you recommend online?

[@randolphlearning5255]

Wonderful. Best of the new year from Canada.

[@SuperBadger72]

in previous videos you have used 4x2, why on this one 4x3? or just customer using it for something heavy?

[@mohamedomar2038]

Excellent video, great explanations, learnt a lot many thx n keep up the good work!!! ✌️✌️✌️

[@guykramer9263]

Hi @Liam, do you cut off the grove (T&G) for the outside edges of the base? Thanks

[@vevocack]

Little tip for you: try using the Makita impact driver with your flute bit / spade bit for the 26mm holes in timber. You'll be surprised! No need for the big corded Hikoki.

[@thegardenroomguru]

I’ll try this 👍🏼

[@BillyMustang101]

Surprising how many people don't think to use those style drill bits in an impact driver

[@stever7709]

how did you get 250mm screws in that tight corner next to the wall??

[@phalimmaguire6069]

Great video as usual, do you recon it would be secure enough to fit the joists with 150mm screws rather than the joist hangers just trying to save a bit here and then when I build my work shop ? Just going to have osb finish on inside , Also do you think treated timber for the walls is essential? Cheers love the videos

[@TheBigSugs]

Possible time saver option....? Level each of the 4 corners using your current method but drop all the other shoes & nuts down lower. Install the 4x3 onto the shoes on the corners and then lift the other shoes up from below and tighten bolts against shoes. Saves having to level at every rod.

[@thegardenroomguru]

If timber isn’t straight as a rod, it would never work mate

[@mozza6666]

Great videos. Very informative.. feedback:- what you wanna do is be mindful of using that phrase a lot ;) ... keep them coming

[@Christosseventy7]

Could you place the timbers directly on the concrete base and place a DPM under the timber?

[@jacksprat3100]

Why has this video got so many hits after such a short time. its nothing special.. strange

[@johnpaterson8104]

a question, will you not smell the drain, when builbing is up ?, great vids i'm just curious,

[@thegardenroomguru]

No mate, I’ll be putting on a new sealed lid to it, it will still be under the build. Just with access

[@johnpaterson8104]

@@thegardenroomguru thanks william, it's just i have a manhole just outside the door of my workshop build, but its a big one you climb down into.

[@TVJackBox]

Noticed the little notch trick saving a lot of work when laying the chipboard, good stuff lads 👍🏻

[@johnnymason923]

what do you use for the shoes liam? im trying to find a suipplier neasr me

[@darranbarker7]

ey up, these are great videos! im a leeds lad living in cornwall now s0 its good to hear the leeds accent. may i ask, what is the minimum distance i can build my base up to a neighbours fence to conform to building regs? ? (subscribed)

[@andrewbradford3226]

Great video! What were spacings on the rods?!

[@Alite2012]

Like the videos, keep them coming

[@jiahuang1667]

Does the ground not need some sort of weed barrier or damp proof membrane under the deck? Looks impressive otherwise.

[@ianspaintpot]

well now you have cut it it is not treated now. i would used incised treated (the treatment is injected in the timber)as the treatment penatrated almost to the centre of the wood. and it lasts longer

[@beaufighter245]

Just a question re the steel rods please. What load bearing do these have?

[@jacobagnew2015]

Loads. A M20 bolts threads can take quite a few tonne. So there's no way the floors going to move. Much more likely that the wood fails first

[@wishbonebrewery]

Not so far off over in Rodley :) Given the spare time I'd be building something with either a Green roof or Solar Panels in our garden.

[@shadowdarottweiler6253]

How much does something like this cost? For a space 3 quarters the size of what you are building there?

[@dougiemiller5030]

I've watched lots & lots of 'instructional' videos for all sorts of things. I have to say, I think this may well be the best instructional video I've ever seen! Absolutely top video fellas. You have covered just about every aspect. Tools & materials used, and prices. Brilliant. New subscriber here now.

[@richjames7948]

You've made your point with the beeping. Jesus.

[@staffh3815]

William I'm a big fan ,very professional, I'm in the building trade myself and looking at building one of these for my daughter to use as dog grooming studio in her back garden she's on a budget ,or should I say I am. I know it depends on what you clad it in, etc. just a ball park figure for materials ,labour gonna be free ,ie,me, 3m by 2.5,thanks in advance

[@davidrobertson7964]

Nice to see flooring going down right mate!!! Hate seeing the big egos with ruffing guns not giving a shit!

[@leahsmith9013]

awesome job! love it

[@tim0565n]

Really loving these videos so full of information and techniques. Thank you and please keep the videos coming. Tim

[@ryanharriss7950]

Quality job, didn't go to anywhere near so much effort putting my shed up.

[@rodneyporter3320]

Not a cowboy builder insight. 😉👍

[@jimmymorgan3324]

HE,DDO MY NOT IN COMMENTATING ALL DAY, (‘. GET SOME EAR PLUG,S . ).

[@ianarmitage7589]

Good video cheers

[@ianfox4053]

Hi William very informative once again can u say where u buy the steel rods nuts etc to make the complete steel anchors? Cheers

[@matthewkeen9959]

Any chance you could do a video of all your first fix stuff. I know you've done small parts but would love more detailed break down. Thanks mate love the videos! Keep em coming! 👍

[@Steve-wk4ff]

@OakwoodGardenRooms would you not need a vapour barrier under the boards ? or is that what those boards are for ?

[@paulwills3774]

Question on 400 centres and it may sound like a daft one! Which part of the beer are you lining up with your 400 centre line? Is it the edge or the centre of the joist? It’s just I thought I heard you say cut the insulation at 400mm but that can’t be the case if it’s aligned at the centre, make sense?

[@neilphelps8618]

Fair play Will, the guy on the drill was only doing his job, if you intend blogging, quick shout out to the team first. On a positive, great work so far 👍🏼

[@Sebby_75]

You should read your Egger Protect manual again...

[@anton-ello]

What's the average cost for this system per sqm?

[@AndrewSmith-wh3lo]

Another great video. Great to see tradespeople being open about what they do. If you are good (like you chaps) you shouldn't have anything to hide. Not only that but you really try to find the time to explain what you are doing for those who want to do the work themselves. Keep on keeping on.

[@WeeShooey]

Brilliant job. Love watching your videos..👏👏👏

[@DavidSmith-nd6pj]

U cud half lap them corners b better job

[@nickdemetriades335]

Such great work Liam. So many opinions on what and why but vids explains in detail. Love them

[@l.s.tukbigbud7715]

Why do you use 5 minute wood glue.. lol sorry had to ask..👍💚✌

[@dank-m5874]

‘Cause they GOT NO PATIENCE! 😂👏🏻

[@themagicrat8803]

I built something very similar in a day, you can see it at 9:18 in the top left corner.

[@rossl2544]

why do you use 5 min PU glue?

[@tentonhammer5469]

Because they have no patience - Direct quote btw.

[@tureq85]

anybody knows where to get these steel shields (sleepers) from?

[@steverobinson3898]

Where do you get your rods and nuts etc from?