Single Storey Extension Stage 7 Setting out of Lean To Roof

[@JI7NKJ]

Carpenter of 40yrs, That folks is called experience and it cant be bought, job well done sir.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi thank you for the comment I appreciate a man of your experience saying that Thanks for watching. 👍🏻

[@frankhornby6873]

I'm a retired joiner ..9yrs now..(wow!)....and it's been a pleasure watching you mate....a true tradesman....knowing exactly what to do...and making it look so easy...(I don't miss those cold Jan/Feb days at all)...absolutely loved your video...👍🏻

[@robevs100ok]

Finally a video that doesn't rabbit on and just shows you simply

[@davenuttjoinery]

Used this way today to set out my rafters. Thanks for sharing this it really helped, 30 years as a joiner everyday we learn

[@Mr_A_Builders]

That’s good to hear Dave glad it worked for you. 👍🏻

[@geoff4022]

So refreshing to see some tradesmen that care about what they do. Very informative video. Thank you guys.

[@MarijnMoritz]

Thank you, this is very helpful for those who cant afford to hire somebody.

[@anthony3097]

This is a great trick. Im by no means an experienced joiner, but ive built about 6 or 7 roofs and love watching videos on it. What a great method for the angle. I personally cut a block the size of the remaining timber after the birdsmouth and measure from top of the wall plate to top of the block ive cut. And that gives me a measurement to where my plumb cuts need to be.

[@DABroke]

What an absolute pleasure to watch a true tradesman doing his work. The planning ahead and attention to detail to ensure that it works out perfectly is very impressive.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Cheers David and thanks for watching. 👍🏻

[@roberthewitt8671]

Watched alot of rafter and birdsmouth videos and this is by far the best. Well explained and so simple 👍👍👍👍👍

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thanks Robert very kind of you to say so 👍🏻

[@bobwatson957]

That was a truly cracking description of how to cut the wid correctly. This is the 2nd time I've watched this vlog.

[@Mike-fx4wk]

That technique is gold, thanks. Theres nothing out there that explains how to find the angle of a lean too rafter especially in a way that is understandable. Gold !

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thank you for the comment Mike and I’m really glad you got something from our video. Just had a comment just saying ‘more working less talking’ so this is a nice follow up. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻

[@Mike-fx4wk]

@@Mr_A_Builders Yh its a nonsense comment, this is a great video ill be watching your content from now on because of it

[@markleeks1116]

Can use trig to find out most things

[@CrimeVid]

Lean to, roof Mr A ! it’s leaning towards not leaning as well ! That’s enough of that. I am pleased to see that there is enough space beneath the sills to install your top flashing, I’ve come across several sets of drawings which ignore this, I think with the intention of getting a specific head height and tiling fall.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Glad you approve, that’s the way it has got to be doesn’t it or it’s not right. Thanks for watching

[@corneldanilaofficial]

We’ll explained, step by step , plus little tricks , really love this channel !!

[@whitefields5595]

I think these builders who make vids of their work put the others to shame. Your skill, technique, quality control, site safety and cleanliness is there for all to see. Not just the end result but the hidden stuff that is so hard to see unless you are on top of every stage. One single mistake and all those that don't have the confidence to broadcast will pile in! The fact that you do this means you'll always be up at the top of the trade and customers can engage you with confidence. Thank God for KZbin!

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Not quite sure what to reply to that comment other than thank you very much. We as a team really enjoy what we do and get a lot out of making videos for KZbin especially when we receive comments like yours. We appreciate your time for commenting and thank you for watching. 👍🏻

[@gbpauluk]

Top tradesman with top quality work and straight talking no fuss tutorial, love your content and many will learn from this.

[@boyasaka]

Nice to watch a proper tradesmen who takes pride on his work Going to subscribe to the channel after watching this vid

[@gdfggggg]

Done many a roof and this explanation is one that anyone could use. Very well done 👍🏻👌🏻

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thank you! 👍

[@gdfggggg]

@mrabuilders6723 no, thank you.

[@berniecoyne2058]

Pleasure watching you work,

[@stevedooley4496]

You've just taken me back to 1985 joinery apprenticeship with that birdsmouth cut tip - spot on

[@m0aze611]

Great work and attention to detail - that’s been the story so far. Glad I’ve been able to share this - thanks 👍🏻

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thank you for the comment Moaze glad you enjoyed this episode and thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@o000omusico000o]

me and my hubby been watching since the loft and we are enjoying watch ,keep up the good work kay n stu

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thanks for watching both its very much appreciated and we are glad you are enjoying our channel. 👍🏻

[@mrboyban]

I've been watching many projects on the KZbin. This has to be the best channel out there. It is so delightful to watch a knowledgeable nice lad with eye to detail explaining every step. Even the weather has to surrender to him. Nice job mate!

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi T. That’s very kind of you to say we really appreciate that. We all really enjoy making these videos. Thanks for the support and watching our channel enjoy your weekend 👍🏻

[@stephenhadley8599]

@@Mr_A_Builders CT by CF by

[@GrahamG-rm4jx]

Brilliant. New to the channel and really enjoying the videos. Clear to see in a couple of minutes the craftsmanship, experience and knowledge. 👍

[@superroofer6141]

Hello mate the upper timber on the existing is the ledger, and the lower one near the eaves of the new build which has been bedded is the wall plate

[@simonchis9333]

many thanks for doing this - so good to watch your skills ( and hopefully remember enough to learn some of them ! ) i randomly got this suggested in my feed and shall now go back to the beginning and watch your whole set of videos. so much better than the rubbish you get on the tv!

[@ozzyarmendariz2204]

Thanks, buddy, accurate and simply to do. This is what I was looking for.

[@mozzer999]

Wish I'd had sight of this video a year ago. Excellent guide. Thanks

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Plenty more to come Mozzer appreciate the comment. Thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@freeridefox420]

just building one of these an this is pure gold info! cheers dude!

[@peacefulheart1512]

This channel deserves more Subs

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thank you very kind of you to say so and we are glad you are enjoying the channel. There’s plenty more to come.

[@petel5560]

Craftsman at work. Great video with detail. Catching up on all the other great content you have uploaded. Thank you.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Cheers Pete appreciate the comment. Loads more to come. Thanks for watching.

[@AbellTo]

That marking out detail is awesome thanks so much

[@Tom_Prendiville]

Pleasure to watch as always 👍🏼 looking forward to the next one already 🙌🏽

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Cheers Tom glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching

[@aggyboy1580]

Did an extension roof almost identical to this at the end of last summer, working for a mate who is a 35 year seasoned chippy (I'm a 15 year skilled labourer/handyman), and I wish I had seen this video beforehand! Your attention to detail and care over the design/layout elements is phenomenal, really impressive, and a level of experience & knowledge "input" (and clear years of loving your craft) that I wish my mate still had! Great video...I'm now "Subscribed"!!! 👍🏼💪🏼👊🏼😁

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Cheers for the comment David and thank you for subscribing. We hope you now go through our other videos and enjoy those as well. Thanks for watching👍🏻

[@danthechippie4439]

Great video, over here most people machinery bolt down their wallplate, I noticed that in the UK you prefer to bed them down.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi Dan. We do add the wall plate straps as well as required by building regs but the bedding on is mainly to get it bang on level and flat. If we bolted down into those light weight thermolite blocks they’d shatter. Thanks for the comment. 👍🏻

[@tylerkempton8891]

Wicked video mate straight to the point very well explained, thankyou 👍🏼👌💯

[@bithex5744]

Love that method you use! so simple and as im a bricky doing roofs i need simple

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@keithstarr8213]

It would been interesting to see how the wall plates are secured to the wall,they must take a fair load with a tiled roof.keep up the good work.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi Keith. I show that in the next episode very briefly at the start. It’s hard sometimes to show everything without the videos becoming to long and boring for everyone. Thanks for watching.

[@barrydoherty636]

Are they having bi fold doors?

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Yes mate they are 3m 👍🏻

[@barrydoherty636]

@@Mr_A_Builders does that mean that you use cavity closures? Will you be fitting the doors? If so can you recommend what make you use. Thanks.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

We have already fitted the cavity closures in readiness but we use a company to come in and fit the doors so we get the warranty and the fensa certificate. I wouldn’t know the make sorry but if you follow our channel I’ll be sure to mention it in the bi fold door and window install video for you 👍🏻

[@richardgriffiths6823]

Great video. I feel better able to get on with the job now. Perfect explanation. Hope you got a new blade...

[@paulpurves484]

Always thoroughly enjoy your videos .

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thanks for the comment Snapper 👍🏻

[@boejoss]

Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing. The owners must be really attached to that house given what looks like a sizeable extension on the top already!

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi ya mate. This extension is a follow on to the loft conversion we did and is also covered on our channel. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻

[@boejoss]

@mrabuilders6723 I realised after I replied it was a multi part series 🤦‍♂️ cracking work I'll take a look. Just hoping you're Wolves fans now!

[@Mr_A_Builders]

It’s probably best we don’t discuss football on the channel 😁⚽️👍🏻

[@PaulCloves]

Trying to get all the joints bang on is so dependent on so many variables ie the sole plate being dead level the outside wall being real parallel with the existing wall the nominal timber sizes being all the same size and square generally nowadays from my experience u can’t have all of them things falling in to place ( especially the timber sizes) so it’s always a compromise on a drawing it works perfectly but in reality it rarely does so u compensate as all chippies do on site and make it work but for me u still can’t beat traditional roof construction so great tutorial

[@susantompkins4254]

Thank you for this, you make it look so easy, I could do with you around my house 😅

[@davidharris4933]

Ive said it before and ill say it again, outstanding and that's before Ive even watch it.👍

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Cheers David very kind of you to say so. Thanks for watching

[@chrisfinn1]

Top job chaps. Pleasure to watch.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thank you Chris glad you enjoyed the video. 👍🏻

[@7747bruno1]

Really been enjoying this build, looking forward to next 👍

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thanks for the comment 👍🏻

[@seasidegreyhounds3670]

Hi, thanks for your videos, i actually find them the easiest to understand. May i ask how you fastened the wall plate to the house please, and also, what the overlap measurement was to join the 2 pieces of timber together was. Thank you

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi. I used through bolts I believe. I can’t remember the overlapping timber you’ll have to remind me sorry.

[@steve45678]

Been waiting with anticipation for the new episode, better than watching Eastenders.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Nice one Steve let’s hope we are on your screens for as long as they have been. 😁thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@TonyM-h7y]

Thanks guys really good method and like you say no messing around with all that maths

[@pauloshea5483]

Great work from a construction manager

[@myrealretirementadventures]

Great to see knowledge and experience result in some really good work

[@jimrowland8310]

Here in Canada we call your bolted wall plate a ledger board 👏

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi Jim and thank you for the comment. I’ve heard that a few times on Canadian and American KZbin channels I subscribe to. Thanks for watching

[@p4fizzle]

What a FANTASTIC way to work out your birds mouths! You got a new SUB outta me within 5 minutes of this video! So appreciative of stuff like this! Just hope I can remember it when it matters 😂

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi and thank you for the comment. I’m pleased your with us just hope we can keep you with us now, we’ll certainly try our best. Thanks for watching.

[@p4fizzle]

@@Mr_A_Builders Absolutely mate, look forward to any content you put out. All the best

[@Joe-jv5mm]

Good system for cutting plumb/ bird's mouth 👍

[@johnpat4612]

Hi, Its a nice video detailing the rafters size measurement and headplate. Please advise the size of screw/bolts used for the headplate. It is very important and starting step to fix the headplate securely. Thanks

[@m0aze611]

Can’t wait any longer I’ve got to go the loo and make another cuppa. Be back in a mo! Na just thankful your posting these. Catch you later.🤪

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Cheers Moaze I hope it’s worth the wait for you. It’ll be on at 1630hrs 👍🏻

[@handle1196]

Great detailed explanation. I have 2 questions. 1. How do you add stepped dpc or cavity tray over the catnic openings for the weep vents? 2. Where the rafter bevel rests on the ledger board/bolted wall plate, in what instance would this become another birds mouth cut resting on top of the bolted plate?

[@alec1113]

You have a good way about you, very entertaining , you know your stuff .👍

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Cheers Alec appreciate that thanks for watching

[@alec1113]

You are very welcome young fella , all the best .

[@11mrpm]

Another great video as always ! Love the detail and explanation of your process, amazing skill.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thank you Luke and thanks for watching. 👍🏻

[@amazing451]

Hi guys, do you do the tiling of the roof aswell, if so a detailed video on that would be great.👍👍

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi Kevin. We do indeed and that’ll be in a couple of episodes time. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻

[@martinmcnamara5396]

As some one with no experience, I'd loved to know how you got the hight of your ledger and why 9x2 over say 7x2. But great for beginners. Thanks for your time.

[@studiosys]

Brilliant stuff !! Absolute gold dust ! Thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@marlowjoinery9783]

That’s a good way of sorting the pitch how I do it is bottom of the rafter to top of ridge and lift the bottom to the height above plate I’d suggest trying out the ultimate roofing square

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Have you seen the price of them now. Prefer to carry on as I am 😁👍🏻

[@marlowjoinery9783]

@@Mr_A_Builders I got mine a year or so ago £95 but not sure what they are now

[@Mr_A_Builders]

£110 now but when I saw them at a trade show they were £90. It’s same with everything now though isn’t it. Everything has gone up 👍🏻

[@TheNorthernmunky]

Lovely job Rich 👌🏼👍🏼

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Cheers Logan appreciate that thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@thomaslundberg5588]

Great video thanks. Building a garage with similar roof structure and this is very helpful. Especially the tip for raising the rafter up to allow for the birdsmouth cut. One question, do you think it is worth using joist hangers on a job like this? Or is just nailing as good?

[@benhastings7755]

Top of rafters should also be birdsmouthed to stop horizontal stresses

[@brianlochrie3958]

Great work looking forward to the next video. Cheers 🍻

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thanks for watching Brian glad you enjoyed it and the next episode is already edited ready to go for next Sunday 👍🏻

[@CORRIGEEN71]

Great trick with the rafters

[@giantoak4742]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@dannydavis1964]

Good video nice job thanks Danny

[@SuccessShared]

Be interested to learn how you do your lead work. We have a first floor timber balcony against pebbledash with French doors underneath which leak when it rains.

[@jojomick1]

would your method for obtaing plumb cut on common rafter work with a hip rafter allowing for height above plate ... many thks mr A ...LOVE YOUR WORK.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi and thanks for the comment. I’ve only ever used this method to get the plumb cut of a common rafter and therefore the degree pitch of the roof. I then use my roofing square set to the degree pitch on the hip scale to do the hip cut. However, it would be worth a go as long as you have got your height above plate off the common rafter first, transferred it onto your hip using the same batten screwed to the top. Don’t forgot to cut you wall plate corner off first to 45 degrees so you can get a full bearing of your seat cut. Hope that makes sense 👍🏻

[@leonpoole4106]

Really good simple way ! thank you for the knowledge p.s its called a ledger board 😉

[@MrUTuber001]

Thanks very much I learned a lot there, Brilliant explanation and really useful. Great work.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching

[@garyscott1447]

Once you have a pattern rafter done you can mark out on it. cut trimmers, part rafters, ladder. It looks like nothings got done. And then the nail gun gets it all on in a little over an hour.

[@ShatteredDream]

First of all thank you for passing on knowledge to us young lads, im a carpentry apprentice myself and love watching these. Probably a long shot but im doing my apprenticeship at a local hospital and really struggling to get any roofing evidence that i need to qualify, would you ever entertain having a labourer/ chippys mate with you on one of your projects?

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi Lennon I’m really pleased to see that young lads are still taking up the trades and not aiming for the next Mr Beast. Unfortunately our roofs come as part of the extensions/lofts we do so I wouldn’t be able to pin point when the next one is as yet. I’d be more than happy to help you out otherwise. All the best with your apprenticeship mate and thanks for watching. 👍🏻

[@ShatteredDream]

@@Mr_A_Builders Cheers for getting back to me. No thats fine mate, in all honesty i knew it was a long shot but i thought it was worth a go. Due to the nature of my job its hard to get evidence for things like fitting a staircase, doing cut roofs etc.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

What I suggest Lennon is keep and eye on our content so you know when we are doing a job you need evidence for in the future and give us another poke and we can see if we can get you some evidence mate no probs. Cheers Lennon

[@ShatteredDream]

@@Mr_A_Builders Brilliant mate cheers

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Send us a list a list of things that you need evidence for to our email that's in our bio please mate, I'll take a look and when we've got a job that's on that list I'll get in touch and you can join us for the day. How's that mate?

[@adamlancaster183]

Just discovered you, very good video

[@xxnickthegreekxx]

This method of setting out was used by an old carpenter who done nothing but 1st fix roofing kind of fool proof. He used to do a similar way for the hips but he nailed a scrap piece to wall plate be interesting to see how you set out hips.

[@keldring]

Alot of people would of just chucked it on keep it up

[@Kajpaje]

What a nice chap! It'd be good to work with a tradesman like that.

[@MrJFoster1984]

What about cavity flashings?

[@MrCipry78]

Very good video 👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 What's the slope on that roof? Thanks 👍🏽

[@Sam.147]

Great video pal. What make is the tool belt please??

[@chrishyde5995]

hi, so where we are you have to bolt and dog washer your doubles/triples around roof lights plus joist hanger all openings, rafter clip the bottoms and truss clip the tops or are you doing that in the next part? great episode

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi Chris and thanks for watching. I will be coach bolting the doubles but I won’t be using joist hangers on the top and bottom timbers. What I do is use a large bracket at the top of each double and bolt this into the bolted wall plate and into the top of the double. I can see where the joist hangers would come into play if the rafter top and bottom were longer therefore more weight. However I’ve done 400mm centres and used 8”x2” C24 timbers so I’m more than confident that it is structurally sound. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻

[@chrishyde5995]

@@Mr_A_Builders its what our building control specify we are not allowed to use coach bolts now it has to be a hi-tensile steel hex head on a square plate with dog washers rafter clips at the bottom and truss clips as they will not allow just nailing anymore as we are mostly on clay and have had a lot of movement over the years

[@drewwhy5541]

“ it’s what we do” good stuff. 👍

[@ste_t]

Great vids. Thanks for posting. I have a lean to on my old 1840's stone garage. The roof is slate tile and is laid directly on the stone. The lathes are rotten and it needs replacing So I want to add a bolted wall plate and rebuild using the process you outlined in this video. The stone where the bolted wall plate will be fixed is pretty wavy. I was thinking I could use packers where needed when bolting it to the stone would that work or would you advise something different?

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi Steve my first thought about the bolted wall plate would be to bolt on temporary in place and cut above and below with a grinder. Remove the plate and remove the face of the stone between these cuts with a breaker to form a flatter surface rather than packers and then fix using a two part resin you can push all thread into which you can buy from Screwfix. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@douglambert2603]

The are typically called 'shed-roof' here in the States. I assume this in in Great Britain as his ledger connection only works if that is a structural masonry wall. Anything in the States built after ~1940 has what they call a brick-veneer'. You can't attach a roof like that to a brick veneer as the veneer is not structural.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Yes mate we are in the UK and it’s a solid masonry wall 👍🏻

[@poka9771]

Hi. great work indeed! May I know what is the size of the extension in length and width?

[@RedSealCarpentry]

Awesome. Subscribed right away . What are those pants ? Im looking for a good set of work pants. We mostly see caarhart here in Canada and they are too bulky for alot of work I do

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel. They are Dewalt trousers and are a lot slimmer fitting than normal work trousers. I have the shorts as well and they are the same fit

[@michaelgnaedinger4637]

Nicely explained 👍😎

[@chrissybfcful]

Another great video lads 👏

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Thanks for watching Chris. 👍🏻

[@thomasmartin6025]

Good information only thing I found cud do with think ing more about was the saw blade swop ? Look at the trend sharping credit cards well worth the money and wd40 to clean any resin off the blade ?keep up the good work 👍👍

[@Mr_A_Builders]

I’ll have a look at those Thomas thanks

[@davidbruce5377]

I love that roofing square

[@romanzaichyk1825]

Thanks, gold hand!

[@MrSharpey87]

Instead of using nails, is there a very good screw that could be used to secure the rafters to the wall plates?

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Nails have been used for decades so who are we to argue😁 however you can get hex head Strutural timber screws in various lengths so you could use those straight through the top of the rafter, through the birdsmouth and into the wall plate. I have used them before but mainly for roofs where 4” or 5” timber is used. 👍🏻

[@TheWardagh]

Great work and well explained 👍🏼

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Cheers Mark appreciate the comment 👍🏻

[@markcortis2348]

Very helpful, many thanks, 👍

[@ziarehman6752]

Good video Do you just use nails to attached the rafter to the wall plate? What type of nails?

[@TheHeatingEngineer]

I have really enjoyed watching the build series. This sort of thing fascinates me. But I'm a domestic gas installer and am very aware that the boiler flue terminal must not be enclosed - not even partially enclosed - and the build is reaching that critical point. What are your plans for that? A bit more info: The concentric flue is used for air inlet and products of combustion (POC) outlet. As the area becomes more enclosed, the dispersal of POC will slowly become compromised with the risk of air with greater CO2 concentrations being breathed in by the boiler. That leads to the risk of more C02 and then the dreaded carbon monoxide (CO). Now unless you have a sensor onsite continuously monitoring the CO2 and CO levels you will not have a clue as to the current situation. The typical "Oh, there isn't any risk; we will be ok" can evaporate very quickly when people begin feeling groggy. And just a bit more "food for thought" - you don't know the condition of the boiler as it is now. It may not have been serviced for years and could be belching out CO. Partial enclosure could raise the risk from [the unappreciated] "high" to "Deadly". I am being purely selfish with this post. If I can keep you alive then we will get the next episode... 😀😀

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi Stephen thanks for the comment. I understand your worries and can ease them by saying that as we speak we are preparing the area for the new boiler and will move it prior to any permanent sealing of the extension roof, doors and windows. You will have your next episode 👍🏻

[@TheHeatingEngineer]

Hurray... ! 😄

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Don’t worry mate I’ve edited the next two vids for you. 😁👍🏻

[@1ionman]

Keep up the good work.

[@prestonian1066]

I don't know if this has been asked already but I was expecting a birdsmouth at the bolted wall plate end too. Will just a few nails be sufficient support for all that weight of the roof?

[@Mr_A_Builders]

Hi Ian. It’s not the first time it’s been asked mate so all I can say is how can decades of carpenters before me be wrong all of a sudden. It must be the new trend 😂👍🏻

[@prestonian1066]

@@Mr_A_Builders Oh I wasn't doubting that you were doing it correctly. I suppose I didn't phrase the question very well. I wondered if I had missed anything or any other supports because with all of that weight it seems a lot for nails to support. I suppose I was hoping you would tell me some scientific jargon about lateral forces and what not, so that when I build mine the same way, I don't lie awake at night worrying that the nails will rust and everything collapses. Anyway...brilliant guide to simplify the process. Thank you.

[@Mr_A_Builders]

I’m still waiting for the scientific jargon myself Ian to come from the people who say I’m a cowboy for doing it this way but they have never come up with any. However I’m still on the case myself and WILL explain in full both methods and any evidence I’ve found from reputable sources. Thanks for watching Ian 👍🏻