How to build a garden room base using the rod system

Ok, so I've re edited this as Im aware that using a chain saw is dangerous.
All the team are fully aware and are under strict guidance to stay well out of the arc of the saw in case its kicks.
Im the only one allowed to use the saw.
Now we have Ronnies bar (awesome bit of kit) we will no doubt go down the road of using a Forstner bit to sink the nuts and all but eliminate the chain saw except for end cuts.
Sorry if I offended anyone.

[@adie5271]

I'm 8 minutes in and it's so hectic with guys & girls running about and that Chainsaw going I've had to pause it for a breather 🤣

[@nickdemetriades335]

How ever many times I have seen you put these together I cannot stop myself from watching every second of this vid. So much knowledge to be gained!!! Love them. Great work Liam and team 💪

[@DlStreamnet]

Almost makes you think you could do it, doesn't it? :D

[@jonathanchappell9596]

This looks like it’s going to be another exciting build to watch. Thanks guys.

[@sidremey]

6:12 "Aw, who's done this!". It was you 10 seconds earlier, knocking the end all the way down 🤣

[@Merlin55611]

🤣

[@kevtube69]

Tighten the bit in the Chuck of the combi drill then twist the Chuck in the opposite direction to lock the bit in. You will hear it click once. Love your vids 👍

[@Dodgy1]

Top marks Liam & Gang, Lovely to see You all back with the Woodworking, Keep er lit mate

[@CulturalArchitect]

So lovely to see you all having a laugh doing what you all do best 👌

[@danielcookeb90]

Super informative Liam. My own brain runs at 100mph, so I'm loving yer pace, and the frenetic nature of trying to explain everything to everyone all at once! Pure brilliant mate! Absolute brilliant! Keep it up! Given the evolution of how you now do things, would you consider doing a sit down video, going through cut lists, materials list, job lists etc, or give Jen the glory if its not your bag? Robin Clevit does it really well with Skill builder? Your anecdotes are brilliant. My brother did the same with the compressor route, built an unbelievable garage! Keep up the brilliant work 👏 👍

[@chrismills3435]

I built my room more or less following your videos all the way. Really thankful for the tips but the joist hangers and twist nails raise the deck such that the final floor is not level enough for click vynal. You over engineer, which is not a bad thing, but here it raises (literally) other problems. But, small price to pay for all the other great tips and solutions.

[@xX1KingKong1Xx]

Great video and content as always. Appreciate the work Liam + team.

[@frankbellamy9405]

I’m plaster a bricklayer will try you method for shed base hood watching these you explain it well

[@azzhatmax8537]

Can I make a suggestion. Where you cut out the notch to secure bolt add a 2mm plate over the rod before tightening a nut on. Great content as ever

[@tlabort]

GREAT VIDEO If anyone needs a garden room i would definitely use this company

[@stewala3069]

Was floored by this vlog Liam lad 😆😆😆

[@therealdojj]

Back to superspeed again 😁 I've missed these videos where you go full on drill instructor from Full Metal Jacket 🤣

[@seanocarolan359]

If you 're not careful you'll have to wear eye protectors to play chestnuts! Another amazing job. Some peeps are easily offended. Whilst it isn't 100% safe in your hands it's well controlled.

[@BoomsRiddico4868]

great vids, full of detail!

[@dab6151]

Just grate team work again

[@doityourselfdave]

I'm thinking to drill the floor joists first and use that to align the rods whilst they're setting in the concrete..... seems like a reasonable plan instead of using string line to line up the rods, and then marking the joists afterwards and removing potential for error. The timber would keep the rods vertical too. Is there anything obvious I'm overlooking by attempting on doing it this way?

[@imperialm8976]

Liam,thank you for all the videos.i really enjoy watching them.May i ask you can you build over 3 metres in depth without having to double up on the roof joists or using using flitch beams?would it make such a difference to go to 3.6 in depth for example?.thank you

[@thegardenroomguru]

its too much for the 5x2 at that mate, we are breaking the span tables as it is but if your keeping under 2.5, there's not much choice.

[@tonydyson2497]

Hello Mr. Guru, I have only just started watching your channel recently, as I am helping my brother build a garden room, we have done the frame work, and put up the roofing joists yesterday. I was wondering if you had any tips that would help, when it comes to putting the doors and windows in, and when putting the rubber roof on, i noticed the broom you use looks like a soft head, has got to be, or will a stiff head be ok. many thanks for any advice in advance, I have learned a lot from your videos, so thank you. I will definately watch your videos more, when it comes to doing my own. thanks again sir.

[@Lwhite1989]

Great video, do you need to leave much of a gap for expansion between the egger boards?

[@darkcoolcat]

Once you've got all the insulation and expanding foam in, do you think running over all the top of the joists with Aluminum Foil tape and sealing it to the top of the insulation would add an extra layer of protection? or is it overkill? Great work by the way as always.

[@hasandegirmenci7240]

Hi thanks for sharing a lot information 👍🏽👊🏼💪🏽,where do we buy this m24 rods any link or website,also if I thinking to put toilet /water in garden room can I still use this system because there is gab between in the ground and the building?thanks anyways😀

[@pauljohn6709]

Good video, although as a chippy myself, I would want to be rushing around a site with all those metal bars sticking up in the air. One trip and could get very messy.

[@mdex1]

I love how we work in mm's in the UK, and from time to time we bark out measurements "1 inch from top mate" 😂, get work team 👍

[@simonpatrick95]

Just bought the buildpack, excited to build our own. Thanks Liam. No membrane between the insulation and the flooring this time? I think you used to stick something in there on earlier videos?

[@thegardenroomguru]

its an over engineer, we stopped using it as if it rained it held water and as the room dried it was drawn back into the room, not an issue if you have time but we need to turn these round in weeks so opted out. over engineering

[@peterthebricky]

Re the marking tool I saw something similar in a book by an american chippy Larry Haun his one used a small tech screw instead of the hole just tap with hammer to mark, his book on timber frame construction is well worth a read

[@coskuncoskunsu816]

If you had a 6 m x6m x 2.8m high office / gym would you use the same base foundations or a 200mm RC slab ? Thanks in Advance JC

[@markarmstrong2592]

That floor is not going anywhere good job you have a good team round you

[@andrewthomas3326]

Hi is there a reason you use steel channel instead of just 5-6mm flat plate?

[@jwatkins123]

How does the Milwaukee bandsaw compare to the 9" grinder for cutting the rods off?

[@eco-techelectrical4730]

Where do you buy rods and metal bits for base from ?

[@DlStreamnet]

lol @ yer lad going "ffs is the gaffa gonna stop filming so I can use the hammer"

[@frankbellamy9405]

Great vids

[@norvern479]

Hi Liam, what chainsaw are you using? I wasn't going to invest on one, but need to clear a few small trees / bushes etc as part of site prep, so may as well.

[@thegardenroomguru]

stihl ms170

[@jeracom]

Omg that pace 😳

[@Leonard_Smith]

@2:16 Great view of Jen there 🤣

[@derekcameron7549]

Been Researching a number of options for the base of my summer house. we do you source you rods and shoes from?

[@thegardenroomguru]

Bapps bolts 👌

[@penny8214]

May i ask. How long does it take for you to build one of these on your own? I shall be starting mine in the next couple weeks 😊

[@thegardenroomguru]

that's a big question, full time, id be done in 10/15 days depending on size, after work and on a weekend? months 😬

[@hiabex]

Hi Liam, I'd not heard of Egger Protect until I saw this video. Near the end of the clip, I see that the boards join in an area where there's no joist below, it also looks like you've staggered them. Does a joint not above a joist remain durable over time?

[@thegardenroomguru]

22mm absolutely solid when glued and fixed on 400 spacing 👌

[@hiabex]

@@thegardenroomguru Thanks

[@noskills9577]

Liam, if your not already get some thin inox cutting disks for the grinder. Seem to be taking a while to cut that studding off.

[@thegardenroomguru]

they take a bit longer on the bar mate and wear down too quickly, we have a band saw now but I guess the blade needs changing, its done around 50 rods so at around £20 a band its not too bad

[@noskills9577]

@@thegardenroomguru that’s not bad actually, bandsaw for the win then 👍🏻

[@Sarahtraynor]

Most interesting garden room build i have seen. I'd like to attempt Liam. Would you have a materials list for base please? Rods, bolts, plates etc. Thinking of same size. 6m x 3m. Also steel for lintel. Thanks!

[@thegardenroomguru]

Hi I sell a build pack on my website, it lists everything you need for any particular size build, full instructions and suggested suppliers, I’ve also a facebook group with 40k members on snd lots have built the way we do 👌

[@Sarahtraynor]

Magic thanks. I'll firm up on size and then request a quote. I am in rep ireland so would have to source materials from here but as long as I have the specifications I'm surr that would be fine.

[@thainigthu]

What do you use to join the 4x3's to get the required length?

[@thegardenroomguru]

splice plates mate

[@matthewkabat4633]

Hey Liam good day do you and the team in Cape Town South Africa

[@pau1phi11ips]

Great video. This looks like a big one, what's the length/width of it?

[@thegardenroomguru]

6x3 👌

[@doityourselfdave]

That's what she said.

[@Cablesmith]

Curious liam, did you come up with the rod system yourself?

[@thegardenroomguru]

sat in Tesco carpark on a stormy day watching there 20ft sign stay still in the gale, it was on 4 threaded bolts, the rest, well you know the saying

[@Cablesmith]

@@thegardenroomguru excellent mate, it’s actually ingenious to find such a great use for them. The use of them as a base isn’t just limited to garden rooms either. I’ve watched this channel for ages now and it only just crossed my mind I hadn’t seen anyone else do that before so got me thinking….You deserve a lot of credit for coming up with that mate 👏🏼👏🏼 well done

[@africandreamchild]

Can you explain the rod system?

[@newoln]

I can't seem to find the kit on Bapps website, am I being thick or I need to call them up and ask for something specifically. Maybe I'm just not searching for the correct terms.

[@thegardenroomguru]

0113 243 9600 give them a call mate, really helpful

[@bgate1984]

Is it the threads on the rods that bare the weight in the end? Cheers

[@thegardenroomguru]

Yes mate, but if your worried about it Google a video of a press pushing on a m24 bar, it takes a ridiculous amount of weight before it fails, then you have the fact the weight of the build isn’t all on one bar, it’s 👌

[@bgate1984]

@@thegardenroomguru thanks, just wondered if had missed something. Vids are great! Cheers again

[@richardh50]

M24 grade 8.8 thread will take approx 15 t at 70% yield stress

[@alexe3082]

Any chance of an instructional video where your not running around like a lunatic

[@thegardenroomguru]

take it you've never watched my videos before

[@antonyhawkridge8202]

When are you doing a kingspan roof, need some advice etc

[@thegardenroomguru]

we won't be doing another mate

[@antonyhawkridge8202]

@@thegardenroomguru issues ?

[@thegardenroomguru]

@@antonyhawkridge8202 no mate, just don't like them. Lots of benefits but just not for us

[@antonyhawkridge8202]

@@thegardenroomguru cool, was hoping to see how you made fall, I'm 6 x 4m brick built, was going to buy furrings etc

[@tomcikjaskolka4833]

Mice will be able to build a nice corridors in insulation under the floor. I think it should be boarded.

[@robertmasters4004]

Yes should be something over it mice rats slugs will eat it away

[@DepakoteMeister]

@@robertmasters4004 The rats at our hospital have chewed right through conceret walls and floors!

[@nickhaley4663]

How would you do that then ?

[@solawoodart9609]

I would like to join your team, but how do I contact you?

[@thegardenroomguru]

Sorry mate, we are not taking on atm

[@ricardo-iw9sq]

This isn't a negative but have thought about a metal base instead of wood then you can build it off site as you know what the dimensions are, I'm doing a base for a log cabin 5m x 3m then build it up and concrete the legs in once I have whole thing level and it's closer to the ground. I'm only saying and not judging as this is your trade.

[@thegardenroomguru]

👌I hear you, we get to site, consult with customer, mostly, we change site and orientation. It’s ok on plan, but real time is often different

[@ricardo-iw9sq]

@@thegardenroomguru fair enough, just carry on with what you and your crew know and at the end of the day it's to please your customer 👍

[@MrAidanfleming]

Love the videos, but fuck me you’d be a nightmare to work for lol no wonder people come and go so often lol

[@2057ben]

My ground starts at ground level and raises to 45cm can I use this system

[@thegardenroomguru]

depends how quickly it raises mate, if its gradual, yes, no problem

[@2057ben]

@@thegardenroomguru it spans 6m x 3m

[@garvielloken3929]

nooice

[@mindaugasb5595]

Angle grinder - watch out everyone

[@thegardenroomguru]

Band saw failed 😞

[@mrvincefox]

2:18 👀

[@m-i3510]

Perv 😅

[@mrvincefox]

@@m-i3510 he is the one waving massive drill with 25mm drill bit.. lolz..

[@gijane9375]

I seen someone used giant pizza cutter on king-span.

[@thegardenroomguru]

Seen it, liked the idea until I watched it tbh, not practical on site, works obviously, but time and money and all that , too slow for my liking 😬

[@villaman2261]

Need to slow down a bit accident will happen , specially swinging a chainsaw around . Yes I have my own building company

[@thegardenroomguru]

It’s a bit of fun, I say this at the beginning, congratulations on having your own building company

[@lazylad8544]

Can someone tell me why they are running around like lunatics to get a simple job done. 🤔

[@thegardenroomguru]

Try watching and listening 👂 👌

[@hartzland7658]

Because he is hypo & got them all stressed out like him.

[@davepedantic]

Why are you always in such a hurry? You’ll ruin your drill the way you keep throwing it on the floor and your boots would last a bit longer if you stop kicking those support plates into position.

[@thegardenroomguru]

It’s how my brain functions best, slow doesn’t do it for me I’m afraid. Everybody’s different mate, besides, them drills are meant to be abused and the boots? You’ll never get a better boot than them, best I ever had

[@bufordmaddogtannen]

@@thegardenroomguru you do you.I grew up with the notion that tools and equipment need to be loved and respected.

[@darkarts59]

Abysmal.

[@thegardenroomguru]

What is mate

[@darkarts59]

@@thegardenroomguru Your drilling, not straight.

[@thegardenroomguru]

@@darkarts59 and that’s your reason to comment

[@bradash.9309]

I need to employ more women.

[@les5074]

The way you rush your team is dangerous and could cause a accident ....

[@matthewkabat4633]

Another comedy

[@thegardenroomguru]

Not sure where your coming from on that comment, care to elaborate?

[@chrisferguson7933]

I’m building a 6m x4.8 summer house, how many do you recommended?

[@thegardenroomguru]

Do you know I sell build packs that you include full materials lists and instructions