Gardening Shortcuts You Probably Shouldn’t Do… - From The Stash Podcast Ep.166

In this episode we talk about gardening shortcuts you probably shouldn't do.
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[@WatchCLtv]

Baby face P is an unlockable character 😂

[@LeviiLesforis]

hahahaha i thot so as well

[@kevinv2474]

New game+ only wings included 😂

[@gojirafan70]

being impatient during any of the phases of the grow. "cheaping out" on equipment. Not being tidy in the garden, being "unclean" or using "filthy" clippers. all great comments, and i would add, GENETICS. they matter

[@jacemarler6883]

Hey I got to meet Neil and Heaven from high again at the AAC can't wait to meet you guys at bizcon if I can make it out there this year

[@kpap3132]

The whole shiny object syndrome from your buddy or online that Rob said man, that hit home. 😅 You really gotta know.. Been there. That one was a good shout

[@SomeGuyGrows]

The shortcut thats worked for me has bee watching FTS. As a new grower I've been able to get tons of knowledge from you guys and avoid some of these mistakes. Keep up the good work fellas

[@pixellips]

BUY A GOOD TENT. I bought the cheapest mammoth tent I could find, I'm 2 grows in and that's my biggest regret. Happy grows!

[@ericsharp5079]

Less is more is really the biggest issue for a lot of growers!

[@RandomEvents_]

I got 34 strains in 1.5 gallon pots on day 47 of flower in a 5x5 tent. In the 15 years ive been growing, this will be my best harvest/quality to date. Plenty of ways to be successful in growing.

[@timturk1899]

I can get around 12 plants, in 3 gallon containers in my 5x5. I've used it for around 6 years, now, just finishing some gir😮ls from seed that got too tall in veg, while waiting for the 5x5 to be ready. I definitely didn't want to sacrifice them, so some Bud clips were used to bend the tall tops. Probably too low down, with woodier stems that I really had to work, to get them to bend 90° with the clips. Ended up losing a few tops, but the others are putting on more size and weight than I could have expected. Having to get light more horizontally, has really created some seriously fat tops like never before. As long as they've got good air circulation for another 2 weeks, they should be fine! Sounds like you have your grow dialed in for whatever's needed. I'll get there eventually, too, someday!👍💯😄✌️

[@TheGreenGrower618]

How often are you watering those during stretch? I hope it's automated because I bet it's a lot.

[@Buck587]

Got the boys on Sunday afternoon in the garden

[@MeesterSquid]

Thank you folks for all that you do! Got me right back into gardening after a hiatus. Eliminated some bro science and now growing cant be any easier without you folks! Thanks!!!!

[@eduardogarza6844]

I think short cuts are a common mistake we’ve all made as we were learning to grow and a part of becoming a better grower if you make it past all your mistakes of growing to eventually having the knowledge through all your mistakes to be the grower we are now

[@tonyb.7158]

Damn... Hope this hits Podbean by Monday for my From The Stash work listen. Just finished all epis for the second time. Learn something new each listen. Thanks fellas for helping me keep the green garden tight. Loving the Stash Blend too.

[@PoppaLongroach]

I've planted so many beans and grew alot of different plants in the last couple years trying to get a huge crop. If I would have been smart I would have started doing entire clone crops from the best phenos and got the big harvests. Pick a pheno you like and grows good in your setup and clone clone clone

[@comfortablynumb9342]

That's tough when you can only have 4 plants like in VA. I usually just grow seeds but I took some clones before flowering this run.

[@Virginia_cough_factory]

​@@comfortablynumb9342I'm in VA. First few runs I grew 4. I been running 10 since. I try to end up with 6-8 plants. Who's counting?? 😂

[@comfortablynumb9342]

@@Virginia_cough_factory exactly, I don't hear anything about people counting plants. I don't have room for 10. I have 4 flowering, a big one ready to flower and a couple clones. I need to go get seedling soil and pop a couple more seeds so I can get the perpetual grow going. I need another little tent. Where are you in VA? I'm in Hampton.

[@Virginia_cough_factory]

@@comfortablynumb9342 Danville

[@Featherless1]

*VA* 🌱✌😎💨💯

[@makeyourownluck8823]

Thanks for keeping us on top of our game. I'll admit I get lazy between work and this amazing hobby. Sometimes work gets the best of me and I slack on my grow but I am overall much better at it then I use to be just a yr ago thanks to yall 3, and 420 scene, and icanthc

[@Beekindgenetics]

That's true about the quantum boards . I got a couple Chinese 400w ones for 65$ ( after i already bought 2 for 120 each the owner contacted me and sent me a code to get them for 65$ ) Crazy 🤣 65$ for a 400w LED Beats the shit out of CFL for sure

[@nunyabizness690]

Is it actually 400w?

[@xIMxMCLOVINx]

Chopped the jelly Donutz and vibed to this episode! Good day boys!

[@leftyz707]

I got mad respect for the whole ftsp but rob for me is that dude ,for me snob on the boof only kill,

[@fullTimeVeganinOhio]

I think when checking the trichomes you have to keep in mind bud size. And telling myself to wait I got fatter buds because they aren't done swelling up but the trichomes were where I wanted them or at least where I thought I wanted them LOL

[@MrTravis789]

My partner has rode my ass about dragging my feet on harvest. In my opinion, all three successful grows should have gone longer. Tho one of them got light schedule screwed up and made nanners from stress

[@PoppaLongroach]

I tried to shortcut the genetics by buying ilgm cheap seeds for a long time. I thought twice as many seeds for same money would give me more good phenos for my money. Not so much, no. Buy from good breeders and get your money's worth

[@growinmo7360]

I tried the same with freebie promo packs 😅 took awhile before I accepted that freebies are usually free for a reason lol. Not saying they're all bad, but theres no replacement for buying known good genetics from known good breeders.

[@PoppaLongroach]

@@growinmo7360 same here. I don't grow the freebies anymore

[@Growmaster_Flash]

Lol. Cris. I know you guys are at the super bowl!!!! Makes perfect sense.😂

[@jakebrake7054]

Unless it’s based on Mother Nature, we’re asking for trouble. The only example of that I currently understand is 11 hours of light. This triggers a hormone in the plants that tells them they need to really make sure it can reproduce, so it produces a shorter flowering time by a week or more. Granted, I don’t have firsthand experience from this practice, I heard it from Kevin Jodrey. I think he knows.

[@SmashDab]

Our health care system worries me also

[@rrittenhouse]

Out of necessity once I picked up one of my telescope lenses and I put that backwards on my phone camera to look at the trichs. Its not the easiest but it works in a pinch. I still use it 🤣

[@ejethrogaede4890]

Another fine episode, fellas...Thanks!

[@El_Papa_541]

Great info. Gracias

[@PoleintheField]

Thanks for the knowledge gents!

[@TNBNaturals]

Great job guys

[@ZephyWinds]

Good job guys plants are doing good 17 days

[@eclip5e870]

I've seen fungus gnats infest rockwool cubes lol

[@ChadAF_YT]

Did you try more water!!!!???? 😆

[@eastcoastgrower420]

Procrastination can also lead to shortcuts that don't work. I'm bad for that😅😅

[@B.Dub.78]

Im running Strawberry Runtz Laughing Gas and PeanutButter Breath. Just flipped my lights a wee k ago.

[@boicutt]

I come from brewing, I highly recommend people use Star San as a sanitizer.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

I recently got a microscope that hooks up to my phone and it's pretty awesome zoomed all the way out. I can take close-up pics of buds that look amazing. But it's not necessary. If I get my phone close enough for a picture it asks if I want to switch to macro. If I take the pictures with macro I can blow them up and see the trichomes clearly. My phone is an Android Motorola, nothing expensive. I take pictures both ways now because they both take awesome pictures. My microscope was $20 on Amazon and has a base for a table. I just hold it for bud pics on the plant, and it's not easy to hold still. Getting the distance from the bud just right is hard too. But when I get it right the pictures are worth it to me. So there's some pros and cons. The macro shots from my phone get close enough to see the colors of the trich heads, but it won't zoom up to where the trichomes look like a jungle of white mushrooms like the scope.

[@eagle1492]

I use a uv clean light to disinfect my entire area... before i plant anything...outside and inside grow room. COOSPIDER UV Germicidal Lamp!

[@TheGrowBros]

I love the growers who name their thrips 😂

[@ChadAF_YT]

That’s og, that’s bubba, and that one going in circles is trainwreck

[@sanssin344]

just set up 2 5x5s in the basement, guessing those shortcuts that do work will be useful here soon

[@dylanwatkins1019]

I spend at least an hour a day in my tent

[@aG-kc6tw]

I also have a question about mixing synthetic and organics. Can I top feed my plant? Will it result in same as if I mixed it in water or will that make the nutes available at different times.

[@Featherless1]

I only top feed worm castings when growing with synthetic nutrients... If you're growing organic, the only organic water soluble nutrients I've found is Green Rush. That stuff is great for deficiencies when you're growing organic since the dry amendments you've already added take a week or so to kick in. Hope this helps a little....

[@blackkingz1461]

I take short cuts with germination... paper towels or glass of water,so I won't waste time with pots or cups of soil waiting for seed to come out

[@jacemarler6883]

Before the discount

[@ufknsuk]

Even with no shortcuts it's not that much work. You can do the bare minimum and still have really good grows

[@GregDunne-zf2ep]

Yes your health care socks down in Oz you can be Brock and still get health care

[@nunyabizness690]

At around 3.30 he said about switching to 12/12 early and switching back to veg. I had some plants on 12/12 from seed due to not having a veg tent at the time, then put them on 24/0 after about 4 weeks, they still started flowering and stretched but are now starting to veg again. The plants are now huge and have not many budsites. Can anyone say if it's worth it to continue flowering these plants or just get rid of them and use the space for other plants?

[@warrenashr2579]

Yeah I shorted two of mine this morning

[@poketyro]

been trying stash blend in my veg, been having some troubles with it

[@FromTheStash]

Post in our discord server and you’ll likely find help from a fellow grower

[@poketyro]

what's the discord? I dont see any link for one @@FromTheStash

[@MrTravis789]

I bought a single seed of a line that was unstable. Another fellow bought 3, one diex, one was normal average and one was a Lil Shop of Horrors giant. Luckily my single was a beast, but considering I am only allowed 2 plants, that was not a risk I should have takem

[@Invisibleman1776]

I’m sure it was a tough decision Chris had to make about letting pigeon go but when he ate all the chill out seeds it was the last straw.

[@bradhude2446]

Never chop to early... some cultivars can almost double in weight in the last 2 weeks of flower.

[@richardskull5279]

I dismissed my fungus gnats problem for too long. It got out of control very fast. I shouldn't have put it off. Laziness bit me in the ass.

[@ChadAF_YT]

Hydrogen peroxide…

[@MrTravis789]

Worm castings are great but don't top dress with too much, I put a layer about an inch deep and it caused problems

[@TwPpopcorn]

Cutting corners always makes new edges for new corners 🥂🍿

[@mountainflower1791]

Gravity got pulled for pgr's not being on the label i believe also bushmaster ,used for stretch ..everyone used it back in the day, lots hide it lol

[@noahsgarden7072]

I think it’s been thoroughly tested that 9 small plants will yield more than 4 medium plants in a 4x4 space

[@TheGreenGrower618]

Where? Not from my experience.

[@rmcnasty7319]

The 4x4 tents are only 45 inches long, and zippers are junk I had to get a 3x3 pan . The spider farmer is oversized 54" long.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

What do y'all think about using a 13/11 light schedule instead of 12/12, with 13 off? I've heard it speeds up the finish but it sounds counter intuitive to me.

[@cyberdyne9480]

Did something similar, got nanners on cultivars that never had nanners before

[@Gr8fullyDeadHead]

I decrease light to 12-12 for 3 weeks then I decrease 15 minutes per week during flower replicate nature and save some $ on electric.

[@stephown5374]

Only looking for one source of information is a shortcut. If you don't check with multiple sources to make sure you are getting the right advice you may not be getting the right advice for your specific situation. Good to have the three of you to compare notes from your own perspectives, in one place. 3 birds with one video. If Cris and Rob were birds, which birds would they be?

[@raygreenfinger]

Buy a decent tent that is tall enough for your space an take into account raising it off the floor by about a foot or so. 6ft ( 180 cm ) is a good height for a tent. Also if your tent is 3x3 buy a 4x4 light that fits. Can't never have too little light, also means you Don't burn out your lights

[@aG-kc6tw]

If I have 3 generations of cuts off sane plant what age is my plant ?

[@robertburkett6678]

Is there any truth in if you harvest early you get more of a heads buzz, harvest later you will get a body buzz like cbd. No matter what strain indicates or sativa ?

[@TheShleafHerder]

🎉🎉

[@CrawDaddy1950]

US has the best health care in the world.

[@MrTravis789]

Keep 5 gallons of distilled water on hand in case you need to flush because of a mistake

[@aG-kc6tw]

I have a moma a daughter off her and a daughter off the daughter. How do I determine age?

[@junkinstein2856]

There all as old as the mom so how ever old mom is

[@aG-kc6tw]

@@junkinstein2856 thanks. That’s sorta what I was thinking. Appreciate ur time

[@junkinstein2856]

@@aG-kc6tw no problem growmie

[@junkinstein2856]

@@aG-kc6tw also remeber that if mom plant either originally mom or a cut that became new mom if that mom has any problems disease pests anything that carries to the clone so always make sure the mom is healthy before you take a cut I did not know this till few wks ago

[@aG-kc6tw]

@@junkinstein2856 understood

[@jacemarler6883]

😊

[@dooney1908]

just use enzymes bro....no need to let soil/coco cook. enzymes break shit down ASAP. 10 years experience. never went wrong.

[@smm72]

Definitely the rushed harvest. Wait, wait. I would rather to long over to late. The cameras we have on phones works for most part. I have a no till bed indoors I skipped the step of beneficial insects. After it was set up beautifully. First the Flys then the mites. I stopped both but I could have had a better product if I didn't have the bug infection. Castile soap on seeing them then amazon predatory spider mites finished them.

[@MrTravis789]

Worst mistake I made was watering to runoff, vacuuming up runoff, tiny shop vac got full, instead of pouring shop vac in toilet, I poured it back into watering pitcher, went away and came back, got confused and poured runoff into plant, salts killed plant

[@MrTravis789]

Sec9nd worse was trying to kill fungus gbats with diatomaceous earth, scooped it out without turning off fan, breathed it, had a cough for 3 months

[@MrTravis789]

Killed my first plant this way, made same mistake once on 2nd plant, figured out what I did wrong, had been doing it long enough to see I had hurt the plant within 20 minutes, flushed with 5 gallons of distilled water, saved plant

[@toddkump9902]

Nowadays…not having the ‘Photone’ app on your phone (it’s free and it works!) is the biggest mistake I can think of…that and not having a microscope to see your trichomes… 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

Keep it simple stupid. Is great advice. Less moving parts too fail. I use lucky dog and get a month per gallon. Great for autos. Need to get bigger pots for photos or keep using inputs after 3 months. Running 13 cultivars of autos this summer outdoors. I will keep growing what grows best.

[@Mrgui110tine]

You get bugs from the soil

[@peppertime1]

Big nono shortcut.... putting your beans or sprouts in recup soil..... they pop, they take an inch... and next day they're gone!! disapeared!!.. use proper seedling soil.

[@blizzard_of_Za]

Hey Rob u stil growing that white truffle. ?I hear it 👋 slaps women.

[@ChadAF_YT]

H2O2 is the franks red hot of pest management if you can’t afford microblift

[@rumi108]

Yeah the in house podcasts are way better

[@Looney426]

What do you guys think about grow dotz

[@fammunguia]

AAWWWEE....YYEEEEAAAA

[@TheGrowBros]

Xs1500 pro is less than a bill...just sayin 🤙

[@aaronwoodley9624]

🤟🤟🤟🤙🤙🤙🥏🥏🥏

[@RedPillGrower]

✌️😎🔥🔥🔥

[@EX7RUD1CON]

I don’t get how anyone could just let thrips go 🤮

[@jacemarler6883]

Hey pigeons it's 9599

[@CaspersGarden]

How the f*** dose the FDA approve Elon musk to do human trails for neurolink brain implants but not marijuana 😂😂

[@jongggrowss4202]

Rob mass and cash how did I know where I am from guy

[@EZgrowsit420]

🎉🎉