WHO WINS this Head-to-Head Comparison??: Jackery E300 vs VTOMAN Jump 600X

[@granjareventon]

Thanks for the comparation, i'm going to Buy a vtoman 600x right now

[@ericbeauvais8052]

I have not seen much about the VTOMAN Jump 600-640Wh Capacity. I would be interested in what your thoughts are on this unit. Great job on all your content, very informative

[@MTBioGuy]

The Vtoman 600x can only accept 65w of solar input. So a 110w / 19v Vtoman solar panel seems like a waste. Is there a way to get around this limit? In one of your videos you hinted at a possible workaround. Any help from Vtoman?

[@wildweav]

I just bought the Jackery E300 Plus which has LifePO4 chemistry as a back up for my CPAP. Your video just popped up on my feed, I will be checking out the info that you are putting out.

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

@wildweav yeah the E300 Plus would be a much better match up. Solid choice for that application.

[@malcolmmyself9653]

I got the VTOMAN 2200 plus battery pack. Very happy with performance with a couple of issues. The cable to join the unit and extensions battery is a couple of inches too short. This means I have to have the units facing each other making it hard to see the screen and making an inconvenient footprint on the floor. The other issue is that it sometimes turns itself off, meaning I have to keep checking that my fridge is running and maybe pressing the on button again. Otherwise it runs great. I have solar and batteries on my house but it is grid tied and when the grid goes down I use the existing batteries and then it does not recharge until the grid comes back. Not truly off grid. I wanted to charge it when I had plenty of power and then run the fridge over night. It works well for this except for the two issues I described.

[@kenmatthews6476]

Great comparison video. I saw your 1500X video and purchased it asap. I later saw a review of the 1500 and had to have so I returned 1500X on Amazon. During the Thanksgiving holiday Amazon had a $600 coupon on the 1500 so I basically swapped the 1500x for it for $80 more. Thanks for knowledge. Oh, they also had a promotion on the same $600 coupon that gave me the car jump cable for free.

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Nice! And thanks for the kind words! Sincerely appreciated!

[@Jimmy_The_Goat]

Would you recommend these?

[@jampam-jf8mt]

65watts max is probably going to take many hours to charge up the 939 wh with the extra battery?

[@ib516]

You totally missed the 2 way USB C port on the 600x that allows dual charging that would make it charge FASTER than the Jackery!

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

The 600X unit that I have doesn't seem to support INPUT on the USB-C port, so I'm not able to dual-charge like you're describing. Does yours behave differently?

[@springerk2007]

From what I can tell, there’s an older model “Vtoman Discovery 600 power station” that supported the dual charging from the USB-C port.

[@__WJK__]

@@springerk2007 - Wow, surprised "Vtoman" didn't add the dual charging feature to their newer models =0

[@billbraun6846]

The Jackery 300 has a bidirectional USB C port that allows it to be charged up to around 130 watts.

[@albertoloeza5764]

Finally bought vtoman 1500 flashspeed, thanks for your video. Thats great, charges about 1650watts/hour, and 400watts via solar panel; ive useit or i test it force obout 500watts per 5 hours, and no problem

[@jampam-jf8mt]

If you get the expansion battery, hope you can do a review

[@schova]

Thank you for your in depth reviews on your channel! As I do more research your information is super helpful. The more I learn though I keep feeling like do I need a larger capacity like 1000 or 1500 for it be actually usable as a backup in case power goes out. I feel like the things the 600x can do my smaller batteries can do and I would need a larger one for actual backup in power outage, like a freezer or heater.

[@robertjones9067]

They must’ve updated this along the way. I just got one and my AC adapter was getting very hot measured 160F with an infrared reader. Hot enough to scald, yikes! They told me don’t worry about it - passed the quality control test. No offer to replace. Got a 12V 120W AC adapter and the 600X showing draw of 78W. The adapter temp a much more reasonable 120-125F. On their website, the manual appears to be updated as well showing maximum input of 100W.

[@Missmarti77]

Great video. Im learning about my vtoman. Thanks

[@donschap]

So... I order two of the VTOMAN 600x units for use as a battery back-up idea for my two (Upper and Lower) NG Standard Home furnaces. After runing the test on the Upper-furnace, the power draw is about 260-300W, when the furnace is running/heating. With the furnace in Stand-by, I can leave the VTOMAN attached and the standby power-draw will keep the connection "HOT" and you can leave it unattended. Unfortunately, the running power-draw is so-great that the 65W Recharger can not keep up and it becomes a slow winding-road to H-E- double-HockeySticks, if I leave the VTOMAN in the loop (w/ Charger plugged-in & the VTOMAN 600x supplying the full-time 120v AC-power to the furnace). In about an hour, the system was at 77% and diminishing. To make this work as a UPS-style supply, I would need to have, at least, a 180W Recharger... which would span and balance with the Furnace's up/down-time. I was considering adding the 600W Extra-battery for capacity, but it charges through the VTOMAN 600x (limit 65W), after the 600x is 'topped-off." HELP? Also, not to exacerbate the issue, the predicted run-time for the furnace, with just the 600x operating is, roughly, 1-2 hours. Is this, really, practical? It did seem like such a nice, affordable, and clean emergency-power solution; so, I thought I might as well go ahead and... JUMP.

[@bobseigel4954]

Excellent analysis in comparison thank you so much. Do you really think the veto man slower charging is a negative? Wouldn’t that be an advantage and then on head to head comparison because it won’t charge as hot it might last longer overall? Not sure about that but thought I would throw it out to the expert.

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Yeah I suppose it depends on your priorities. Slower charging would/should equate to longer service life of the cells - but then, sometimes you just want to get the thing topped-off and get on with your business! haha

[@ratherrapid]

Good vid! I wonder which of the two battery technologies holds up better in cold weather!?

[@Ade2bee]

Good point

[@Mega1andy2]

the beginning part had me dead, LOL, that was awesome!

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

I'm glad you enjoyed the bit! Hardly anyone ever comments when I have a little fun with it and it's nice to know at least someone got a chuckle out of it!

[@Mega1andy2]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors if you do the beginning parts, i'll laugh more!

[@markcrew3696]

I have this battery. On your DC charging test on the Vtoman you should have given it a little bit longer time because it starts out slow but works its way up I've actually gotten 70 to 80w charging after about 5 or 10 mins.

[@fjcruiser289]

Great video can you add the link for that solar panel plug adapter. Thks

[@deanstackhouse8775]

Off grid since the 1970's and mainly use propane refrigerators but I also have a couple of Coleman 12 volt DC units that aren't very efficient so sit idle most always. I wondered what frig you used in the video so tried to find a video you may have made (using my only device, an Android phone) and I don't see one yet. I also looked in the description box and found no link. Can you find the time, as I know it will be a good one if you own it. You're very thorough in your research and detail and I like good "tools". Thank you I found the Vouge refrigerator video using a search method new to low-tech "Old Man me"

[@kevinrey9427]

This was very helpful. Thank you

[@DownGridSurvival]

I don't recognize the fridge, what brand and model is it? I just purchased a Bodega, will be doing a video on it soon.

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

That particular one is the BougeRV E35.

[@DownGridSurvival]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks

[@posys5140]

I like your video I think I'm going to buy one of those thanks ! The Jackery is a Nickle Manganese Cobalt very dangerous battery I'm going to buy the Vtoman which is LIFEPO4 Lithium Iron Phosphate

[@ledbea]

I've heard some of the vtoman powerstations turn off the inverter if it doesn't detect it being used. I saw it could handle the startup of the 12v fridge, but does it stay on or does the inverter turn off after a bit?

[@greydogmusic]

It’s a terrific video so far. I’m halfway done. Had to stop and read the post. I don’t know if it’s mentioned there’s quite a few posts but I did look. If for some reason I can’t get a minute to come up on the video for reference, about halfway you say, you expect the VTOMAN to power the refrigerator because there’s a bigger inverter. You don’t use the inverter for 12 V. That’s for 120 V. i’m assuming you know this and it’s just a slip. Now to see if you corrected as I finish the video 😃

[@FreshOuttheBox-w2z]

Yeah, this was repeated a few times. Surprised it's been 10 months and this hasn't been corrected. What counts for the DC output is its current capacity. The inverter and the AC circuitry is not involved. It would be good to know whether there's overcurrent protection that isn't an internal fuse that blows.

[@bf102010]

After seeing your review I order a 600X from Amazon. The deal was great and I received the unit in one day. However, the AC power adapter did not work and I sent an eMail to the company. After 3 eMails and no response from the company, I was forced to buy an adapter through Amazon.

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Wow, that is unacceptable! I've reached out (anonomously) to their tech support with questions several times and I've always gotten a response within 24 hours. Please follow-up and let me know if they do get back to you.

[@PartyUpLive]

Did they ever respond to your email?

[@SHERGENIUS8]

I want to be able to run two freezers and a fridge. Can you please tell me if I buy three that it will work work?

[@frankroper3274]

It's not the wattage that is lowered it is the voltage. Also, 399-180=219 where I went to school in the old America! Not sure in the new America

[@perryrhoads8057]

A couple of questions. I assume it has, but thought I would ask. Is the inverter pure sine wave? Does it have pass through charging? And, any idea of time to fully charge from 110V when empty? Thanks in advance !!

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Yep, Pure sine wave inverter, with pass-thru charging. And it takes about 5.5-6 hours to fully charge. I'm actually testing now with a basic 75W panel to see how long it charges with that.

[@perryrhoads8057]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks for the info! I bought one.

[@JohnClulow]

Excellent comparative review! I bought one.

[@dhpat805]

Great comparison!

[@mzteelew]

Can u use different brand solar panels with the Vtoman?

[@themachine8427]

Great review , thanks 🙏

[@777Dorado]

I'M on the wall., Great Vid as always this would make my choice....If you can a BLUETTI EB3A vs. Jackery E500 vs. VTOMAN Jump 600X. Keep up your great Vids, Thank You.

[@fd4340]

Would love to know difference between jump600x and the 600w

[@arthurleslie9669]

Any review(s) of the more flexible non-silicone Solar Panels coming our way?

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

I haven't had the opportunity yet, but I'll certainly try and look into that. Thanks for the idea :)

[@__WJK__]

@Arthur Leslie - Good suggestion, I'd like to see some flex panels as well... especially some really long flex panels seeing how most can be stored in the "rolled-up" postion and then unrolled and deployed for potentially huge solar output(!)

[@jampam-jf8mt]

Sometimes the display on power stations might not be accurate. It could be less, or could be more watts going in or out than actual. Is there a way to test actual watts going in rather than relying on the built in displays

[@alyeamark]

Is there any way to pull 12v directly to power lights and yacht water pump in off grid cabin without the overhead of running through the inverter and then to external 110v/12vdc converter? Would it be practical to run off jumper connection?

[@madcratebuilder]

You have 12V at the cigarette plug, other adapters can be used for 12V.

[@tennwalt]

You sir, are a well read insightful young man, thumbs up!

[@merrill07]

Just curious, why didn't you compare the VTOMAN 600X with the Jackery 500? Wouldn't that be a closer comparison?

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

I chose the Jackery 300 since it has roughly the same battery capacity of the Jump 600x, and battery capacity is the main determinant of price. VTOMAN's product naming can be confusing since now, they also have the Jump 600 - which DOES have 600Wh capacity and would be a more appropriate match-up with the Jackery 500.

[@jampam-jf8mt]

Did you test how long it will hold the rated 1200watts peak?

[@alyeamark]

Addl thought - if using jumper connection to tap into 12v, I would lose the ability to benefit from the expansion unit.

[@Jerryman1963]

Amazon has a special! Don't know how long it will last. Got the VTOMAN Jump 600X Portable Power Station and separately, the VTOMAN Jump 600X Extra Battery 640Wh for Jump 600X Portable Power Station for $484.93. This is the total after coupons and promotion.

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Dayum! Excellent price for that much capacity!

[@Jerryman1963]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks for the reviews!

[@jampam-jf8mt]

That's an amazing price.. probably the cheapest 1kw solution with a 600 watt inverter

[@nomoreinfo3096]

Thank you !

[@deanstackhouse8775]

Video title edited : Honey I Shrunk the Jackery

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

hahaha....When you've reviewed about 20+ power stations, you need to find ways to amuse yourself and make it fun!

[@jamespreece8512]

like the videos , i need some info, i'm new to this so here goes i ordered the vtoman 1500x and the extra battery , now i need solar panel, can you recommend a good one for me , good price plus value thanks so much

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Hi James! For the Jump 1500x, I'd recommend 1 or 2 of the Elecaenta 120W panels. They've got native connectors compatible with the Jump power stations (and a bunch of additional adapters to connect to about anything else you might buy!). They're solid panels: amzn.to/3MjNPLc and run $190 with the $40 Amazon coupon applied. I did a video on it awhile back (unsponsored): kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ7YhZ-rmqqfg9E

[@Sotzrem2007]

Currently out of stock in Canada

[@JesusOurKing]

If the 600x can only handle a 65W charge, I wonder why they included two DC 5521 outputs. Even if both solar panels are receiving, let's say, 40W of energy each, the unit won't be able to utilize it all?

[@ericbeauvais8052]

The two out outputs are just that, outputs that will not charge the 600X. I have the cigarette lighter charging plug into a 12 volt regulated power supply and it was charging at 85 watts. which I think is ok. I found on the Vetoman website that the 600X dc input is 100 watts max. Hope this helps.

[@JesusOurKing]

@ericbeauvais8052 yeah I was wrong. There's one DC input I understand now. I ended up buying one and the Manual says we can plug any sized Watt panel into it but I guess like you say, it will be limited to 100w. I'm testing it out with a 10w panel in a few days just because I'm cheap and curious..

[@lifewithpugwinkle]

how much does the vtoman weigh and does the battery have to be at 100% in order to jump start a van?

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

I don't have the weight handy, but I'm sure their website or Amazon listing will have the weight. It does not need to be at 100% state of charge to use the Jump start option. Just needs enough to charge the Jump capacitors(they're high amps but don't consume much Wh capacity since it's just a momentarily power surge)

[@marklamon628]

how "safe" are these to store in your house?

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

LiFePO4 chemistry are the safest Lithium battery chemistries. Storage is extremely safe. IF there was ever going to be a problem (aside from obvious catastrophic damage, like running it over with a car or putting a bullet through it), the most likely time would be during charging - but even that is extremely safe and why most solar installations of any significantly sized battery bank will use LiFePO4. Personally, I'm confident enough to be storing probably 12+ power stations in my house right now. :P (yeah, it's gotten out of hand haha)

[@marklamon628]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors I have 3 jackerys ( 2) 240's and a 1000, and now a vitoman 600x. had the jacks over a year now. and they are stored in a spare room.. with all the fires and explosions going on ie the cars, and the ebikes, i started to really wonder about these too...

[@rndsommer40]

You can't shrink anything in a samsung dryer. They hardly ever work. Nice colors though.

[@jampam-jf8mt]

I have a 650watt 1litre kettle (perfect for making 2 cups of tea).. would it damage the kettle if a kettle is sensitive or power station? What would happen?

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

While I suspect it would be fine...and just take longer to boil...I must confess that I'm not 100% certain about that since I've not had any direct experience with electric kettles. I might have to buy one and see!

[@jampam-jf8mt]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors it would make a great video. There are huge van life, off grid and camping communities who would definitely be interested.

[@Ade2bee]

What is the capacity of the fridge, or the size of it?

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

The one in this video is the BougeRV E35. So 35L or 37 qt

[@jamesgunter7699]

Does it have pass-through charging... Jackery only

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Yes - both will do pass-thru charging.

[@happydays9613]

I just got the unit. Shipment slightly damaged the led light. Vtoman were good with partial refund. No quibble. The item is good, but heavy and bulky in comparison to other models. However for the money you pay, many advantages to having it with what it can do. Still testing, as only had 600x for 24 hours.

[@unknownmeaning8506]

Hi good video just wondering does anyone have any advice comparing the 600x to the ecoflow river 2? Here in the UK the ecoflows are being pushed by most youtubers

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Between the 2, I'd probably steer you towards the EcoFlow River 2. A bit lower capacity, but longer warranty and better/faster charging options - both Solar and AC. If the faster charging is not a big deal, and you might want some expandibility in capacity, the Jump 600X would be a good option.

[@unknownmeaning8506]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors brilliant thank you for taking the time to reply

[@jampam-jf8mt]

River 2 is only 256wh battery and 300 watts inverter..vtoman is double the power and larger battery..

[@jamesgunter7699]

❤️ your channel

[@JamesJones-xk9xx]

The Jackery E300 is on sale now for $209 on Amazon.

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

That's not a bad deal. :) I just wish it wasn't Lithium NMC chemistry. But for casual use, not a bad option.

[@JamesJones-xk9xx]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors Yep! I use it at night up in my rooftop tent to charge my phone, iPad and run the lights and in the winter, my 12v electric blanket.

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

@@JamesJones-xk9xx I just bought a 12V electric blanket to compare against my AC electric blanket. Got a trip coming up in a couple of weeks to see how that goes. :)

[@__WJK__]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors - 12v electric blankets/heating pads are the way to go, seeing how they're more efficient than running even the smallest 110v or 12v ceramic heater... long as one doesn't need to heat an entire space/small room of air.

[@terrialgarrett3654]

That's cool

[@eje1963]

None of Vtoman 1500,1000,600 come with jumper cables any more kind of silly considering it is called VTOMAN JUMP 1500,1000,600 I just got VTOMAN JUMP 1000 OCT. 22 no jumper cables I compared TO VTOMAN

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Yeah I just found that out myself last week. 🤔

[@eje1963]

@@ReeWrayOutdoors Even their ads show the jumper cables Maybe a small part but still a selling point Should be included

[@nahornig]

Had to stop. Got tired of mistakes. Beware.

[@greydogmusic]

If there are mistakes you should point them out. People are supposed to stop just because you said “mistakes” ? The purpose of the video is to help us decide if we want to purchase it. If somethings been overlooked you would think your post would help us decide if we want to purchase it. Thumbs down. Not helpful.