Garmin BaseCamp, How to create a route from scratch

[@BigPJ56]

You've no idea how useful this was to me. I'm fairly new to Basecamp, and figuring this out by myself was proving so frustrating. One of the best tutorials I have seen. Very well done, and many thanks for taking the time to do it.

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Paul. Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes.

[@khalidakram]

Joby - I just used your video to use Basecamp (on Mac) to create a walking route in the Chilterns and then I sent it to my Garmin GPSMAP 64s device. Great job mate! Well done.

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Khalid. Best wishes.

[@tatop102030]

I downloaded Base Camp and was totally lost this video was the fourth or fifth one I watched, and I can say that it was far more helpful than the predecessors. Anyone new to Base Camp should watch your videos and work along with them. Thanks Again

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Rory. Best wishes.

[@martynlaverick6816]

Brilliant tutorial. Thanks so much for making sense of this for me. Just wasted 2 hours trying to plot a route to Bournemouth with no luck. All sorted now!

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Martyn. Have a good ride.

[@MikeB-fp2nw]

Very useful , thank you . I've struggled for ages with Base Camp

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime. It is useful once you figure it out. But they don't make it easy.

[@KhunJH]

I just had an "ah-ha" moment while watching your video. I've never been able to figure out how to see the entire route with directions after importing to my garmin device. You helped me understand that with the Apps/Trip Planner details. Thank you so much!

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Jeff. Best wishes.

[@timsalt1311]

Thanks for this. Great video and for the first time since I got my Garmin I actually understood how to plot a route. Garmin should link to your videos - they're a lot clearer than the ones they have on the tutorials!

[@JosephByrne]

+Tim Salt Anytime Tim. Best wishes.

[@dennisl.5659]

Excellent tutorial. Straight to the point. No time wasted! Thank you jobybryne!

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Dennis. Best wishes.

[@jimbangkok]

Excellent video and instructions. Thanks for taking the time to make it. You are gifted in making instructional material, and I am glad to be a recipient of your talent.

[@JosephByrne]

+Jim McCallie Anytime Jim. Thanks for the support. I really appreciate it. Best wishes.

[@JoeWaZoo1_Geeks_Rule]

Dude, I owe you a beer! I have been trying to figure out how to do this for a few days and finally resorted to KZbin. Your instructions really helped me out. Ever get to Dallas, TX I'll buy you a beer.

[@JosephByrne]

JoeWaZoo1 Anytime Joe. I should have some US trips with my new job so if I'm around TX we'll get a bear. It's a deal.

[@MarcPhilippo]

Very nicely done thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. I have found Basecamp unfathomable with routes seemingly taking on a life of their own as they squiggle over the horizon. Still not sure I'm confident with the tool but your video certainly helps

[@JosephByrne]

Marc Philippo Anytime Marc. The software is actually pretty good once you get past the initial learning curve. I've had some great rides using planned routes from the internet and magazines.

[@1947roswell]

Thank you for this great tutorial. I just made my first route test, sent it to my garming and imported. You rock, man! Cheers from Italy

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Max. Best wishes.

[@TheAnasAcuta]

Thank you for your video! ....if ones english is no perfect, your woice and clear speaking - is of great help too...

[@jonathanlackman7198]

Thank to you I finally am starting to figure this out. Quite a learning curve if you've never used Basecamp. My old crappy Garmin 5 years ago could just import from Google Maps; you could right click in google maps somewhere and it would send directly to the garmin. The HD Rideplanner used to do that as well. But my new Garmin NUVI can't do any of that and after a lot of pain, I finally faced the reality that Basecamp is probably the only way.

[@andyherbert4423]

Great video Joby, thank you for this mate. Im a newcomer to Basecamp and this is exactly what I needed, clear concise information. Nice one!

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Andy. Best wishes.

[@ticktock01]

Thank you for this very helpful video tutorial. Much better than Garmin's own videos. I am still a bit unpracticed in editing a route. The elastic lines don't want to go quite where I want them to go. I will keep playing around with it until I get it.

[@1001013]

Thank you so much! You've made my day! I've tried following the Garmin.com tutorials to create simple recreational motorcycle routes in and around Salisbury Plain without success, so frustrating. Creating a "new list" is not intuitively obvious but it works. Looking forward to seeing more. Best wishes.

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Kittyhawk. I hope to make some more videos soon. Best wishes.

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Kittyhawk. The route creating process is not really intuitive (except if you are me it seems) so I've tried to explain it in logical steps. There should be more content soon once I get my act together.

[@paulbertorelli9044]

Nice job on this, job. Answered some basic questions I had before embarking on my motorcycle trip to Italy next month.

[@JosephByrne]

***** Anytime Paul. It's good software once you get past the initial learning curve.

[@jameseby-ny3eu]

Fantastic videos that you create...Was wondering how you move the tool icons from the left to the right in the top toolbar to make it more convenient...Thank You !... PC Windows.

[@JosephByrne]

Just moved the pointer over the three dots on the left of each group of tools. Then you can drag and drop them to rearrange with the left mouse button.

[@jameseby-ny3eu]

@@JosephByrne Thank you Joseph the ONE thing I didn't try...Thanks again

[@JosephByrne]

@@jameseby-ny3eu Anytime. Best wishes.

[@thomasmalloy3120]

Hoping this will help me plot my bike tour through western europe this year. Thanks for the video :)

[@JosephByrne]

Thomas Malloy Anytime Thomas, have a good trip.

[@Herejustonce]

Brilliant ! Thank you so much for a very detailed and helpful tutorial

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Adrian. Best wishes.

[@bmmer007]

Thanks! Best quick intro out there!

[@JosephByrne]

PY Cote Anytime mate. Best wishes.

[@markdankel191]

Brilliant. Spent hrs wading through far lesser vids before finding this terrific presentation. Do wonder, what is the purpose of creating a new list in "collections" and how is that list related to creating a new route?

[@johnbailey4664]

Great but straight away how do you get the pencil back after you use the drag( hand) tool, this program is bloody hard work

[@JosephByrne]

On the Windows version of Basecamp after you have finished panning around, select the *Insert Point* tool then hover over the last point you plotted. You need to do a bit of precision mouse work but when you get it right a black target will appear around the point. Wjen you see that, left click and then you can continue plotting. Also get a look at the Live Stream I made on BaseCamp for windows. I go over it all there.

[@paulbaruga8541]

Awesome video, thanks! What happens if you accidentally leave your custom route when you are out driving/riding? Does it navigate you back to the nearest waypoint and then resume the route as you planned it?

[@JosephByrne]

Paul Baruga If you clicked "Navigate to the start of this route" when you started it will keep re routing you back to the start point of the route. If you didn't click "Navigate to the start of this route" when you started it will try and navigate you to the closest waypoint or instruction to your current location. It will keep doing that until you cancel the route. If you pick up the route then it'll continue navigating the route from that point forward. It's easy to cancel the route if you deviate from it and easy to resume also.

[@efyscotland]

Thank you so much. I was struggling with Basecamp and hated buying a Montana. Your video has made things a lot more clearer. Are you still using Basecamp or have you moved on to another programme to plot routes which maybe a little more up to date than BC. Also can you tutorial for something like Garmin explore or similar to plot routes and sync whilst not near a pc.

[@JosephByrne]

Thanks for the feedback. I want to make some videos on Garmin Explore but I have some other projects to finish first.

[@peterlewis968]

Excellent video, easy speak language, this is my main reference now for Garmin Basecamp.

[@JosephByrne]

Thanks for the feedback Peter. Best wishes.

[@jesuisravi]

Thanks for uploading this information. This seems to mean that I can choose not only the destination but the actual roads over which the destination is reached. Yes?

[@JosephByrne]

Yes that's correct. This method, and some of the others on my channel, enable you to choose the roads you want to ride and have the Garmin navigate you on them.

[@jesuisravi]

Thanks. I'll check them out.

[@travisbarnes4802]

This is a fabulous video. Garmin's manual is laughable - they should have you on the payroll. Thanks for posting.

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Travis. Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes.

[@garysetch]

Wonder if you can help. My friend and I both use Bascamp for our BMW Navigator's. We will both from time to time create a motorcycle route. We then email that route to each other and that's when the problem begins. When we download that route into our own Bascamp it will show the grey coloured track that is correct but the pink route initially is just straight lines, if you then re-calculate the route it dramatically changes the route, its almost as though it think it knows best! We have both Basecamp's set up the same and have tried changing the navigation preferences but it does the same thing. Why does it not follow the original planned route? Regards

[@JosephByrne]

Can you send me the route? My email address is in the *about* section of my channel. I'll get a look at it and figure it out.

[@garysetch]

Doesn't want to let me email you on your www. address!

[@JosephByrne]

It's my channel name then 28 at hotmail dot com.

[@Boxbeat666]

How well does garmin plan/deal with small/new off road trails that dont show up on well on google ect.

[@JosephByrne]

If they are considered to be roads they should be navigable. If they don't appear as roads you can still navigate them using the Offroad driving profile so long as you plot via points.

[@bigdog6893]

Found these very useful but can you do any for cycling as it doesn't seem to work when sending to the Garmin.

[@JosephByrne]

That's the plan but I'll need to acquire some more devices and work through the process for those. I want to create a resource for the full range of products but I'm still figuring out how to go about doing that.

[@bigdog6893]

That's great, i've got an eTrex 30x and have found the best way is to create a route from waypoints, although you have to watch you don't exceed the limit. Creating a route from a track doesn't really work as basecamp throws up different distances when using driving/motorcycling etc. Most cyclist's want a unit that can give turn by turn but it's very hard to get that working properly.

[@MuddySump]

Hi. I'm trying to make a route going up the A697 for newcastle to scotland. Everytime i click its going off onto different surrounding roads instead of sticking to the A697. Any ideas what could be causing it?

[@JosephByrne]

+MuddySump Most likely you are zoomed too far out when you are placing your navigation points. When you are zoomed out even if you are only slightly wide of the road it'll think you want to go down a side street. Try zooming in or place Waypoints on the road and create a route from them using this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJK5i5x_pZiHbc0

[@MuddySump]

+jobybyrne zoomed in close and wasn't even clicking very far between points to see if it made any difference. I'll have a look at the other video

[@AaronHartwell]

Great video! How do you get Basecamp to snap lines to roads? Mine is plotting every single line between two points as a straight line. it's not snapping to the curvature of the roads like yours is when you place points on a route. Is it a setting somewhere?

[@JosephByrne]

You need to change the activity profile to "Driving" then it will snap to the roads. It's currently set to "Direct" which is only useful for your helicopter.

[@azeeuwnl1961]

Ive been using Basecamp for some years now, but learned some cool new things from your tutorials. Love the trick where you create a route from a track. The tip with 'Direct' is great. I noticed you are navigating on your 590 based on the route. Is this what you would recommend? Other tutorials seem to focus on navigating based on the Track, created from the route. If you could do a tutorial on the difference between routes, trip and tracks, that would be great.

[@JosephByrne]

Hi. There is some confusion around the terms really. A device can only navigate a route. If you upload a track to a device it's not navigable. You can create a route from a track but not the other way round in my experience. I'll look at creating a video showing the differences soon.

[@nose2wind872]

Nice video. I had a lot of trouble before I figured out how to use the detailed map on my GPS. If you just leave the shaping points will you get voice notification of upcoming turns? You might also cover how to change the shaping points to via points so you get voice notifications. I listen more that watch my gps through ear plugs.

[@JosephByrne]

Nose2wind You won't get directions unless you export the route to your device. If you want to create a route from Via Points I have created a separate video here.

[@michaelwilkinson9159]

Hi, and thanks for the video, I can't find the editing tools you refer to at 4 minutes 40 seconds. Is this a feature that has been done away with? I'm using version 4.5.1 When I click on view I'm given the options to 'hide toolbar' or 'customise toolbar'. Selecting the customise toolbar options does not show the edit tools. Any suggestions?

[@JosephByrne]

+Michael Wilkinson That's strange. I just updated to 4.5.2 and it's there under View --> Toolbars --> Edit features. Maybe if you update the latest version. Are you using a Mac or PC?

[@johnashp]

Thanks so much for saving my sanity. I have found it a steep learning curve moving from TomTom to Garmin and particularly getting to grips with Basecamp. Have lots of route planning to do for our next USA trip and doubt I'd have got anywhere without your videos. Thanks again. Noting that Garmin's videos are so out of date, they make things worse rather than better! By the way, I am not sure if this is totally correct but with Basecamp running and my Garmin Drivesmart connected to the PC via USB, Basecamp does not seem to see the device maps and other contents unless Garmin Express is active and connected too. This was driving me bananas. Also, I have not found away of copying the purchased additional map located on the microSD card to the PC. There is an option in Garmin Express to copy the main map but not my additional map?

[@JosephByrne]

Thanks for the feedback John. That's interesting that you can only see additional maps when Garmin Express is running too. I have only got experience working with a single map so I don't have any advice in that respect. I think Garmin were trying to figure out ways to prevent users using maps on multiple devices and computers. Using Map Source, one map code could unlock the map on as many computers as you liked so maybe they are trying to reign that in.

[@Si.Spence]

thanks for the demo. in order for me to use basecamp as a planning tool for cycling B roads and quiet lanes in the UK do I need to buy all the maps or does basecamp come with maps...at this time i can just see the main A roads on basecamp. I'm using a Gramin Edge 800 and i have all the maps loaded onto a micro SD (bought at same time from Gamin), but don't seem able to use this garmin maps on basecamp. i' just looking for a quick n easy mapping option. any help appreciated. Thanks. Simon

[@JosephByrne]

+Si Spence Just for other peoples reference, the maps are on your device so when you plug it into the PC they should be available in basecamp. There is an option when installing Basecamp to install the maps to your computer as described here kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHLSg4Gfq9JneKM

[@richweinert7324]

Great tutorial!! I have been using mapsource for years and found it a bit simpler than Basecamp. I was wondering when you're creating a route and you hit escape and you want to go back to the route, how do you "extend" the route. Normally I would just right click on the last Waypoint in mapsource to extend the route and would carry on routing. I can't seem to find that option in Basecamp. It allows me to insert a single new point, but this is time consuming as may be adding dozens of new points to complete route. Hope I have been clear enough in my question. Thx

[@JosephByrne]

Excellent Question. So I did a bit of research and figured this out just now. The insert point tool actually has 2 functions (wish I'd included this in the video). So here's the procedure. 1. Select the route you were creating in the list. 2. Click on the "Insert" point tool. 3. Hover the pointer dead centre over the last point on your route, after a small delay a dark circle will appear around it (have patience). 4. Left click and you can continue plotting.I wish I'd known that about 6 years ago. Best wishes.

[@richweinert7324]

jobybyrne Thx so much for the quick response. I do a lot of map routing for our motorcycle group and missed that feature in base camp.......until now. Awesome!!!

[@JosephByrne]

Me too. Up till now I'd been trying to create 100 mile plus routes without making any mistakes. It was hard work. Thanks for prompting me to figure this out.

[@BikingAdventuresandRoutesNI]

Hi ya I am new to your channel but before I start watching can you tell me how you get the roads to come up on basecamp? Mine looks like a bland desert with just the town names. Any help would be great

[@JosephByrne]

Plug your device into the computer then the navigable maps on the device will be available in BaseCamp.

[@BikingAdventuresandRoutesNI]

@@JosephByrne Hi thanks for the quick reply I have spent many hours trying to get it to look like a google map with detail but it just looks bare, I cant show you a picture but it looks poor compared to your map lol

[@JosephByrne]

@@BikingAdventuresandRoutesNI I think you need to increase the level of detail. There is a drop down menu you can use to select a greater level of detail then you'll see more streets.

[@BikingAdventuresandRoutesNI]

@@JosephByrne hi ya I will look at it shortly

[@BikingAdventuresandRoutesNI]

@@JosephByrne Hi I have more detail but it looks nothing like yours. Thanks for all your help I will play around, just dont know why its like that. Cheers though.

[@triplem9805]

Hi, Joby - are you still planning to do updated vids on the current PC version (4.7.0) of BaseCamp? I'd love to know if it's possible to plan a route on MyMaps and transfer it to my Zumo 395.

[@JosephByrne]

It's on my list. The procedure is almost identical as the video I made for Mac, just the interface is slightly different in Basecamp.

[@triplem9805]

@@JosephByrne Great - thanks.

[@davesmith2675]

Can it be used with Tomtom as I find it far superior to Garmin?

[@dannyd5697]

My Basecamp has an almost empty map. In my city it shows the 3 main roads and the highways. Is there a way to add a more complete map?

[@JosephByrne]

+Danny D Hi Danny. Yes, there are 2 options. 1. Plug your device into the computer with Basecamp running, this will load the full map from the device, although you'll need to have your device plugged in all the time when working with the map. 2. Install the map to the computer as described here kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHLSg4Gfq9JneKM. Best wishes.

[@dannyd5697]

Thank you. I "think" I'm getting somewhere. On both my laptop and PC I installed the version of Basecamp that didn't have much of a map. On my PC I hadn't installed Garmin Express yet. So I uninstalled Basecamp, installed Garmin Express and did to install Basecamp with that. Right now I've got about a half hour to wait. Hopefully this does the trick. Thanks a ton. I deliver oversize freight. They give us the route to take. A wrong turn here can be a fine of $50,000 US or even more. I'm comfortable within a few hundred miles of my home because I know the roads. My GPS never lines up with my route though. So I'm not very comfortable when I get to far away from home. On my laptop, which is what I'll be using on the road, even with the device plugged in I didn't get much of a map. Ideally I'll be able to get the complete one on there if I can get this figured out on the PC here. Once again thank you.

[@dannyd5697]

And an add on- I got the full size map on my PC. So that worked. Next will be my laptop. Thanks again.

[@JosephByrne]

+Danny D Anytime Danny. Best wishes.

[@Inkerman1980]

Thanks for this, extremely helpfull.... Do you happen to know how to delete "Active Logs" from "Internal Storage" in a BMW Navigator V?? Have tried but to no avail......

[@JosephByrne]

+Inkerman1980 When you connect the device to the computer and fire up Basecamp you should see the device in the library panel on the left. Under the device you'll see a folder called "Internal Memory." Select that and all the tracks and routes on the device will appear in the section underneath. Select the tracks you wish to delete and press the delete key (or right click "delete."). This should remove the tracks (or active logs) from the device. If this doesn't work message me and I'll look into it further.

[@Inkerman1980]

+jobybyrne Hi Joby, thanks for your reply. Have attempted this procedure previously but yet again even with your direction it fails to delete the "Active Logs" in the "Internal Storage" window, (I believe this is to be your described "Internal Memory"). When I right click on any one of the tracks an "Open" window appears with the following descending list:... Show on Map... Playback... Send To... Sort By... Copy... GeotagPhotos Etc.......... If I right click delete or delete from the keyboard, nothing. My original assumption has been that these tracks can be directly deleted from within the Nav V, I guess this is incorrect.... My overall concern is that the unit is filling up with many unwanted tracks. Does this have any significant impact on available memory within the unit?

[@Inkerman1980]

+Inkerman1980 This may help!! advrider.com/index.php?threads/bmw-navigator-v-issues-solutions-thread.993042/

[@theoapbiker8398]

Hi again. Just love your videos as I am very comfortable in Basecamp due to your excellent teaching methods. However, I have just one question if you don't mind? When I check the route in the directions it states on every waypoint it wont alert? I am confused as I need alerts especially on a motorcycle. Many thanks. Rob

[@JosephByrne]

+Robert Taylor Hi Rob, from what I remember that means that it won't alert you when you are passing a Way Point. E.g. "Passing 11 Queens Gate on the Right." It will give you the route directions though to navigate you on the route. You should be able to turn this setting on on the device if you want each Way Point to be announced.

[@theoapbiker8398]

+jobybyrne Thanks for yet another quick reply. I think after reading your reply it will still give me voice commends to turn right, left etc in my bluetooth headset but it will not tell me in the voice commends when i approach a waypoint so is that correct? Regards, Rob

[@JosephByrne]

+Robert Taylor Yes that's correct. You should be able to set the proximity alerts on your device. For example you can turn the safety camera alerts on from there and also warnings if you are approaching a school zone. Navigation instructions will still be heard regardless of your proximity alert settings.

[@theoapbiker8398]

+Robert Taylor Many thanks for your advise & very quick replies. Please keep making videos as you are a natural at it & with an excellent teaching method. Because of you I now consider myself an advance user of Basecamp! Best wishes Rob Taylor

[@JosephByrne]

+Robert Taylor Thanks for the feedback. I really need to give the channel more of my time but work gets in the way. I hit 500,000 views today though so that's a sign to give it more focus. Best wishes.

[@colinrichards510]

Hi wonder if you could help me were im going wrong , plotting a route with the pencil that makes lines on the roads when im doing this instead of deferent road names going in one box they are splitting into different boxes so the route is spilt up hope you under stand my problem im new to base camp ?

[@JosephByrne]

I don't really understand what you mean. You can contact me through the About section of my channel and we can do a screen share or something. It's probably something simple to fix.

[@alkydah6741]

I was going crazy because your video makes it seem so intuitively easy yet it wasn't working for me. I would set two "via points" and the route line would just be a straight line and not follow the road. After an hour of searching online forums for answers I discovered that once I connected my Garmin to my PC, then loaded the map from my GPS to Base Camp and used that map rather than a Topo map, THEN it worked as advertised! Do you have a work-a-round to change/remove the huge flags displayed at every via/way point? Annoying when viewing zoomed out. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.

[@JosephByrne]

Hi Al. I know exactly what you mean. When you view the overall route on the device and zoom out all you can see is a load of giant flags. I don't think there is a way to change that sadly. I think the symbol for Waypoint is fixed.

[@jariheinonen1320]

mark the way point/right click and top left you change symbol. It will change all way points you selected

[@howarth3]

When I try to create a route, every time I add a new point it doesn't show as one continue route. It's as if every point has to go though a certain point so i end up with 1 point with about 10 lines coming out of it instead of one continual circular route. Any ideas?? (Hope that makes sense) Thanks

[@mistergmo8695]

I had that problem too, learning Basecamp is an exercise in frustration for sure. I found out I was able to highlight two routes (or more), right click, and there was a "combine routes" option.

[@JosephByrne]

It can be frustrating but it's rewarding when you get it right. Thanks for the "combine routes" tip, I hadn't seen that before.

[@ozrider8896]

Hi Jim, Where did you right click from? I think I'm having the same issue when creating routes as I plot it sometimes takes on a mind of its own and will go in another direction.

[@JosephByrne]

Jim selected two existing routes then right clicked and had the option to combine. I'm not sure if that's the same issue you are facing though.

[@delwynwilkinson2106]

I love your video's, my edition of base camp is very different to yours, I don't have the icons the same as your screen. Do you have any idea's why?

[@JosephByrne]

Hi Delwin. Are you using a Mac? There are some differences between the versions. Also a lot of the toolbars are hidden when you first fire up Basecamp. You can activate them by going to View --> Toolbars. The Edit features and Drawing Tools toolbars are the ones I use most in this video.

[@delwynwilkinson2106]

Yes I do have a Mac, that could be the reason. Thank you again for you video.

[@paulf2534]

Thank you. This is really helpful.

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Paul. Best wishes.

[@xjr13john]

This was a great help, thanks

[@JosephByrne]

MK Biker Anytime mate. Ride safe.

[@matteasr]

Very good video EXCEPT that my Nuvi 42 won't open the route I planned. Apparently it doesn't support this. Is there any way around this or do I have to buy another device. Can you tell me of any other devices that won't do this? Thanks

[@JosephByrne]

Hi. I looked up the specs and unfortunately the Nuvi 42 doesn't include "Trip Planner" which is the app that is required to import and work with routes. I looked up the specs here buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-road/automotive/previous%20models/nuvi-42lm/prod120958.html. Any device that has trip planner should work with the method described in this video. I'm not aware of any work arounds as such. On the device you could set a route destination then choose another destination and add it to the existing route as a via point to build up a route but that is not ideal.

[@matteasr]

Thanks so much. I'll try what you suggest but will probably get another one. Not online this time.

[@matteasr]

I thought I'd let you know I've just bought a Garmin nuvi 57LM for £26 on ebay [It has a Trip Planner] from USA so fingers crossed and thanks again I'm nearly 80 years so you are now an honorary member of "Help the Aged"

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Matthew. I want to do more of these videos and I have a plan as there is a lot you can get out of these devices. Best wishes.

[@matteasr]

Have subscribed ..looking forward to future ideos

[@JJP1960]

I completed my route in Basecamp and exported it to my Garmin. When I select the route I'm given an option to "Select Next Destination". When I select the next waypoint right after my home address the Garmin plots out the route to that waypoint. The Garmin shows the first waypoint as the destination and then provides me with the option of selecting the next waypoint with the green "GO!" button. Do I need to select the green GO! button everytime I come to the next selected waypoint? I haven't had a chance to try out this route. Thanks for any information!

[@JosephByrne]

When you kick off a route and choose a Waypoint as your next destination, the device will navigate you to that point and then commence the route. It effectively navigates you to your chosen start point so you can ride your route as you may not be at the start point when you set off. You can also choose a point half way if you'd rather start the route from there.

[@JJP1960]

Thank you for the information. So in this case, my start point is my home address and there are 5 or 6 points along the way. If I select the first point (which is my house), the route I planned will continue all the way to the end without any intervention from me? In other words, when I view the route in my Garmin, each point begins with the green GO! button. When I start my route from my home address and my vehicle reaches each point the route will continue uninterrupted?

[@JosephByrne]

Yes. You'll see in this video at 3:18 I'm not actually on the route, however, I pick a start point and the device navigates me there and then kicks off navigating the route. You'll see later in the video at 3:41 I pass a Waypoint on the route and the device doesn't stop it continues to the next one.

[@JJP1960]

+jobybyrne Thank you so much! I truly appreciate your thorough and accurate instructions. I will try out one of my custom Basecamp routes tomorrow and see if it works like I planned it. I have a six hour journey. I also created some custom routes in Google maps and exported the .kml file as you detailed in your other video. I do think I prefer the Basecamp method since there seems to more route control available. I found it difficult to correct a route in Google Maps if I made a mistake. But it may be that way since I'm still a neophyte with this. :-)

[@bobphillips6491]

Very helpful, thanks mate.

[@cvcoco]

​I use Base Camp. I transferred all the data to the Nuvi. Where are the routes I uploaded? How to access them and use them?

[@JosephByrne]

On the device go to *Apps --> Trip Planner* and they should be in the list there. If it is an older device go to *Where to --> Custom Routes* and the routes will be there. If you don't have options for Trip Planner or Custom routes your device may not support custom route planning.

[@cvcoco]

​@@JosephByrne Thanks so much for the reply. I should say first I use the current version of Base Camp and Nuvi 2455 (2014) with 8.30 current software. In Trip Planner, the only routes that are there are those you create yourself within Trip Planner. I have several in there based on saved waypoints. Using Trip Planner, i get undesired results. Creating routes within Base Camp, I accept the results and they are saved on the list on the left side. With the Nuvi plugged into the PC, i transfer all the waypoints and the routes appearing at the bottom. I see a yellow and then green checkmark showing the data transferred. Unplugging and starting Nuvi, I see all the waypoints as Saved items, but no routes appear anywhere in the device. Did they not transfer? I tried Send To Device for each route and that didnt help. When I try to select a waypoint as a destination, it creates the undesired route result and there is no info or way to select a route I planned and saved and transferred. Whats wrong? I spent almost 7 hours today planning a trip for tomorrow, and the only thing I can think of to do is take a laptop in the car and manually follow the route created in BaseCamp. This makes no sense! Why do I have a GPS?! I searched the web and Garmin help pages but there is no info about how to access and use routes created in BaseCamp, just abundant info about how to create routes.

[@JosephByrneCharaChorderOne]

Ok so I thin the routes aren't being imported automatically. So go into Trip Planner, click on the three bar menu on the top left and select import routes. The routes you sent to the device should appear in a list and you can select them all and import them. Once imported they will be available to navigate on the device within the trip planner app.

[@JosephByrne]

@@cvcoco If it's still getting nowhere we can look at on skype later.

[@justfriend5441]

Why i don't see in Basecamp routes line, when i upload from kml/gpx file, which create from maps google? I push button "show on map" but don't see a route line, try change colors and etc..

[@JosephByrne]

Have you connected your device to the computer so you can see the detailed map?

[@Majorvideonut2]

Can you use BaseCamp on Windows 7? It says it can't be installed on Windows 7 or am I reading it wrong?

[@JosephByrne]

From their website "IBM-compatible computer running WIN Vista x64 and later. App cannot be installed on Win 7 (no SP) as this is not compatible with .Net framework 4.6" So if you take it literally it can't be installed on Windows 7 unless you have installed a service pack. I think that's what (no SP) means. If you install the updates you should be all set.

[@Majorvideonut2]

I downloaded BaseCamp and it seems to be working fine. It doesn't say anything about Google maps. I am not familiar with Google maps so I am really at a disadvantage. Just got the Garmin two days ago and am trying to get used to it and making a trip route which I could do with Streets and Trips. I'm 72 and still learning :)

[@JosephByrne]

The Google map procedure is just popular because lots of people are familiar with Google maps. You can do everything in Basecamp with a bit of patience to get over the initial learning curve. Once you've got a feel for it you'll be flying.

[@TheoDeKlerk]

It works on Win 10 Spring 2018 Edition too

[@triambicpentameter2172]

Hi There - Thanks for the great tutorial. I find that the map I'm using on my laptop in base camp, called "Global map" has insufficient detail for plotting my routes. Am I overlooking a detail controller, or should I be using a different map? Thanks!

[@JosephByrne]

Triambic pentameter Basecamp typically uses the map from your device so in order to see that plug your device into the computer and the map will refresh with more detail, or you can select the map from your device from the drop down list once it's connected to the computer. I describe that in more detail here kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHLSg4Gfq9JneKMm45s. With some of the newer devices you can install the map to your computer as described at the start of this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHLSg4Gfq9JneKM.

[@Si.Spence]

+jobybyrne Hi, i've now sorted the map, thanks. just need to work out how to plan a long route and make changes now :) I like the function in googlemaps where i put address for start and end points, then the route is automatically calculated and then i drag sections to make any changes. does basecamp offer anything similar please? i've been pressing buttons all morning ! :)

[@JosephByrne]

+Si Spence If you look at this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJK5i5x_pZiHbc0 which describes how to plot a route from Way Points you can specify an address for the 1st and last waypoints then use the route tools to manipulate the route.

[@jamessullivan7007]

AAARRRGGG! I followed your instructions and uploaded it to my Nuvi 58 and it worked beautifully. However after a few uses the Garmin GPS decided to recalculate the route and sends us back on the highway. I have even tried re-planning the route with many way points but the %$&^#$%% Garmin keeps recalculating the route and sending us on the highway. Is there any way to prevent the Nuvi 58 from changing the route?

[@JosephByrne]

Have you tried changing the settings on the device? There may be a setting to avoid minor roads. If you change the route calculation settings to avoid highways and remove any other restrictions it may stop sending you back on the highway.

[@donnelson6362]

How to prune an old apple tree?

[@andywattbulb]

Does it work with Garmin Nuvi?

[@JosephByrne]

andi watt It should do. If you look on the device to see if it has a trip planner that's a good indication that it will work.

[@andywattbulb]

I looked in the trip planner but nothing is there. I tried putting my GPX map manually on the computer into the GPX folder, but I can not find it back when I use the device. It´s so strange...It´s a Garmin Nuvi 154...so maybe not the right version?

[@magnussimonsen5492]

Hi, when I came to a point, somethink will happens, how can I do it?

[@JosephByrne]

When you are finished plotting if you press *Escape* it will finish the route.

[@JackF99]

My route does not follow the roads. I just get a straight lines between waypoints, as a crow flies. I have motorcyle selected.

[@JosephByrne]

Double click on the route on the left hand side. Change the activity profile to "Direct" and let the route recalculate. Change the activity profile back to "Driving" and it will recalculate to follow the roads.

[@JackF99]

Thanks what i did instead before I noticed your response was a software upgrade. That did the trick too.

[@beatnikfly7]

I tried this, nothing works, no matter what activity I choose or however you explain, it only shows a straight like from point to point. no roads

[@jfsssp]

beatnikfly7 you also need to be using a "routable" map or Base Camp will ignore the roads.

[@beatnikfly7]

jfsssp Base Camp only shows a Global map What's a routable map?

[@FABDST1]

Hi, I tried with my Garmin 1350 nuvi but it doesn't work :-/. My garmin doesn't respect the way i've calculated..

[@JosephByrne]

+Fabrides Have a look at the settings on the device, the route calculation mode and avoidances on the device may conflict with the route you've plotted so it will take you off course.

[@FABDST1]

+jobybyrne ok Thank's very much for the tips and your response ! Should i let it without avoidances you think ?

[@JosephByrne]

+Fabrides Yes, turn off all the settings that will influence the route.

[@FABDST1]

+jobybyrne ok i'm going to try and let you know ! thank's 2 times ;)

[@TwoIndians]

I've never seen such a ridiculous route planning tool in my life. I'm so sorry my wife bought a Garmin for me for Christmas. Absolutely knocked over about the unnecessary complexity involved in planning a route.

[@JosephByrne]

Once you get used to it, there's nothing to it. I'll admit it takes a while to get up to speed but after that you are all set. All the serious tourers I know run Garmin. Get a look at the live stream I created more recently. That is a more up to date explanation.

[@TwoIndians]

@@JosephByrne will do thanks, Ive been using an app based product on my iphone but as soon as i get out of range of cell towers its useless. thanks again. i'm puylling my hair out at the moment

[@TwoIndians]

do you have a live stream for PC? only see it for MAC

[@JosephByrne]

@@TwoIndians yes, right here kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJuaf4qria-npZo

[@BushellMark]

Great video but.... We are using map and none of the editing tools are showing. There is no view toolbars. There is no delete, break route or pencil tool. Unless somebody knows any different. Thanks

[@JosephByrne]

+Mark Bushell Hi Mark. Send me a screen shot, (email can be found on the about page) or we can set up a screen share or something.

[@jkeown71]

thanks. very helpful

[@JosephByrne]

Anytime Jeff. Best wishes.

[@blacktiger955i]

Stupid how the satnav doesn't seem to know where it is. i.e. you have to tell it which via point is next.

[@JosephByrne]

That's so you can start the route from part way round if desired.

[@blacktiger955i]

On older units like the Zumo550 you just ride onto the route and it'll pick up from there. No need to tell it anything. I do it quite frequently. Same as when I've missed a turn and navigate back onto the route. (I have auto recalculate turned off). Massive retrograde step on these latest units.

[@JosephByrne]

It does that also if you stray off the route and reconnect with it. Having the opportunity to choose which way point you want to start from is an extra feature. It's convenient if you want ride directly to a point mid way around the route for example. I've owned a 550, 660 and 590LM. Each has been an improvement over the last if you take the time to learn how to use it. I do miss the 550 for nostalgic reasons though.

[@blacktiger955i]

OK so it takes the place of "Do you want to navigate to the start of the route" on older units. I suppose I see it has a use. Tomtom Rider 410 has a similar "feature". Does it give you view of them on the map (as tomtom does) rather than on a list? I'm thinking that in the middle of France you might not always know which one you want to start at unless you can relate it to where you actually are.

[@JosephByrne]

In that case go to the preview map screen and you'll see the Way Points in order along the route. Or just hit that Way Point and get the unit to start navigating from there then press the top of the map screen and view the route map to see where you are relative to where your bike is, the next via point and the wider country.

[@Oldtech51]

Base camp is useless with a Garmin nuvi. You can create a route but a Garmin GPS will not follow the route. The GPS unit will always follow its default route.

[@JosephByrne]

Does it have the trip planner App or the custom routes option. If it's not following the planned route that's usually down to the route structure. I can help with this and do a Skype meeting.

[@BushellMark]

Using mac that should say

[@JosephByrne]

+Mark Bushell Find my email address in the about section of my channel and send me a screen shot. I'll get a look at it and see what I can do. We can possibly do an online meeting also.

[@randy9716]

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[@drmgoldfarb]

I don't know why you posted this....its terrible

[@JosephByrne]

Thanks for the feedback. Feel free to post a link to your superior video here.