Garmin Fenix 8 vs Enduro 3 (Don't Waste Your Money!)

[@your_avg_joe]

MIP for life guy here. I came to this video to stay up to date on features. Happy to say that my Fenix 6Pro is still serving me very well - no need to replace this gen. I hope Garmin never phases out MIP, though now only pairing MIP with solar is starting to feel a bit like that.

[@chickennugget11470]

Not if you keep buying the mip models lol

[@daveevans7151]

7x Solar here…thought about OLED for a brief moment, then I didn’t since outdoors is by biggest use case. I am interested to see the new Solar screen and charge rates compared to the 7. Am with you though, never really, when backpacking, have I said, “man this watch sucks” lol.

[@Tha-King-Arthur]

ALOMED for life guy here. I came to this video to stay up to date on features. Happy to say that my EPIX PRO 2 is still serving me very well - no need to replace this gen. I hope Garmin never phases out AMOLED, though now only pairing AMOLED with solar is starting to feel a bit like that.

[@AddingLifeAdventure]

I'm rocking the Fenix 6X. I only wish I had a flashlight. I am not sure when I'll upgrade.

[@brum293]

MIP fans, try using amoled for a couple of weeks. I think most of you will convert. I went from Fenix 6 Pro to Forerunner 965 and the amoled is just so much better.

[@KonstantinosDouros]

My opinion. I am a runner since 2018. Bought a forerunner 235. Kept it for four years. Bought a Fenix 6. Kept it one year. Forerunner 255. One year. Instinct 2. Six months. Now I own a one month old Fenix 7 pro. Garmin is talented at making you buy the new thing. I could still do the job with my Forerunner 235 or at least stick to the Fenix 6. Thankfully I sold them without problem and at good prices but God, you just need GPS, Interval training and good looks. Looking forward for my first Marathon in Athens. 🎉🎉

[@1111undici1111]

Yeah, and the Fenix 7 Pro has the _exact same_ sensors than Fenix 8 or Enduro 3 has! Fenix 8 or Enduro 3 did not come with a new sensor version, it's the exact same that the Fenix 7 pro has! So Fenix 7 pro is as capable as Fenix 8 or Enduro 3. If you don't need mic/speaker or diving functionality, get Fenix 7 pro and pay less!

[@balkeep]

Talented in making you buy a new thing? I would not say so. I'm still satisfied with my 5X Plus and see 0 reasons to upgrade feature wise, except maybe flashlight but seriously, not 1.2K for electronic watch lol. Used 7 Pro lately for a week, thought it might sparkle a desire to own one in me, no, not really, pretty much the same watch, maybe a little bit prettier thanks to a bit smaller bezels, well, and a flashlight. Everything else is literally the same. Would I pay 1k extra for it? Not a chance

[@TunnelJumper]

Good luck on the marathon!

[@eftaxopoulo]

Εγώ έχω κολλήσει 4 χρόνια με τα Instict (Solar 2 χρόνια και άλλα δύο το 2Χ) και είμαι πολύ χαρούμενος. Αλλά το Fenix 8 μου γυαλίζει, αν και δεν είμαι φαν της έγχρωμης οθόνης και των "φλυαρων" μενου

[@KonstantinosDouros]

​@TunnelJumper thank you very much!!

[@ChristofferKarlssonChris]

Still rocking my Fenix 3 since 2018 :) Not sure when I will ever have the need to upgrade. Still amazing battery life etc

[@collinmorris]

@@ChristofferKarlssonChris curious how many hours full gps you get?

[@lhzsdgsfbvv]

Recovery time and training readyness where gamechanger for me. But it would also be available on the Epix 2 (pro) and Fenix 7 (pro)..

[@pcyclologic]

@@collinmorrisim still running my fenix 3 hr saphire on bike tours. If im using it in normal mode with gps on itll last me a day of up to 12 hours so ill need to recharge it every night, which can be annoying if youre off grid, yet the plug lll will recharge it “for free” if youre covering some kilometers at decent speed :) Still considering wether the time has come for it yet

[@nickcoyne4949]

that's amazing - the buttons fell off of mine after 3 years.

[@Alyia112]

same here. finis 3 HR since 2017. but now I feel the HR is not accurate.

[@samanderson8709]

I bought a Fenix 8 51 Sapphire to replace my Apple Watch Ultra. I cannot imagine going back to charging a watch every day, this Fenix is awesome. It will go almost a month between charges and also has all the features of my Approach S70 golf watch. Worth every penny for me.

[@Michael-vf5id]

garmin salesman detected shut up!

[@Sancho_Loco]

Amen 🙏 😂

[@rungeordierun]

I'm running 3200 miles coast to coast across the USA in 100 days next year. I think it's Enduro 3 for me. Thanks for a really good insight into the options.

[@Jakubcaso]

But big size. You have big hand? So its ok

[@gundamfloss]

3200 miles ! Wow that's great.

[@Thomas-fk3cw]

Already did that run. Then I hopped on one foot back across the US. Pogo stick next time.

[@knotsable]

Oled screens get praised for their brightness and vivid colors, but that is exactly why i prefer mip: it is just less distracting. I dont want another distracting screen wrapped on my wrist.

[@Jakubcaso]

exactly.. and in the evening it burns the eyes.

[@ToniTio89]

Exactly, there is one youtuber who points this out: Mark Lewis.

[@pslinares]

I agree with you, and I add that oled screens burn out on some areas if someone uses always the same watch face.

[@anthonyrampino7734]

@@ToniTio89you said Mark Lewis, do you remember the name of the video so that I can look it up?

[@DreiK96]

Can't you minimize the brightness of Fenix 8?

[@7331warrior]

We love the multiple videos. The more information the better, these aren’t cheap watches and I want to make the absolute best choice.

[@yawillykwily7179]

My Fenix 7s still going strong lol No more consumerism 😅

[@ismathem]

Amen to that! Same here.

[@ThongNguyen-pc6wu]

Yah same to me

[@ivanteo1973]

My Fenix 3 going strong.

[@stevek4382]

My 6 sapphire is also. The prices are getting to damn high. Lmao Oh, MIP only here.

[@1111undici1111]

Same here! I've got the Fenix 7 pro and it has the same sensors than what the Fenix 8 or Enduro 3 has! It is as capable as those. I don't need mic/speaker or diving functionality thus Fenix 7 pro offers me everything I need. Absolutely no need to upgrade.

[@carsons5750]

0:39 is why I will be staying with MIP. As petty as it seems, I just hate looking at white numbers on a black background on a watch, especially when running in the daylight. Maybe if AMOLED ever lets me do black text on white I'll consider buying one, but I also dislike the raise to wake function and brightness in dark settings.

[@scriptosaurusrex]

White background would be a huge battery drain in an oled display. Then garmin would have to deal with all the returns for disappointing battery life. I doubt it will come.

[@myralchista]

It can be achieved without battery consumption. I saw white screen on the new LCD e reader (forgot the name). It's white when turned off too. Probably it has some disadvantages.

[@scriptosaurusrex]

@@myralchista LCD technology is completely different than (am)oled. The Wikipedia page on oled states that an all white oled screen uses approx 300% _more_ power than an all white lcd. This in stark contrast to typically using 60-80% _of_ the power that an lcd screen uses in typical consumption with more balanced pictures. You sure it wasn't an e-ink screen, if it stayed white when off?

[@robhunt8378]

But the watch face is so pretty and colourful though!

[@mrcstb7479]

Makes more sense to compare enduro 3 to fenix 8 solar…. And this is much harder choice. If someone is into amoled screen, there is no point even thinking about Enduro.

[@terryfurlong518]

I did think about waiting for these watches. I am so glad that I brought a 965 on discount earlier in the year. For once I have chosen wisely.

[@_J.F_]

Owning a Fenix 7 Pro I am not going to be updating just yet but if I was I would very likely go fro the Enduro 3 as I feel it offers the natural progression of what Fenix used to be. My only gripe is that it doesn't come in 47mm, which I would prefer as I have roughly same size wrist as yours and feel that 51mm is just that tiny bit too big.

[@vosch8229]

Team MIP. Staying with my 7x Pro for quite some time, I guess.

[@ToniTio89]

Yeah! Me too!

[@ventsislavstefanov9590]

Why? There's 8 Solar with MIP...

[@vosch8229]

@@ventsislavstefanov9590 Because nobody gives me the F8 for free. The benefits of the new watch compared to mine are way too small, while the price is way too high. And if I would upgrade, I'd go for the Enduro 3.

[@cmkpro81]

Hey 👋 regular man here. I purchased the Fenix 8-47mm Sapphire Titanium. I upgraded from the Vivoactive 4. It just finally bit the dust after serval hard years. I’m an electrician by trade, sportsman/outdoorsman, DIYer, farmer, builder, etc…..My hands make a good living for my family. So I got the one I know will take a beating. I’ve had mine since launch day and haven’t charged it yet with 26% on the screen and estimated 4 days left of battery….. I’m impressed and extremely happy with my purchase.

[@ianl7641]

Is that the amoled or solar version?

[@cmkpro81]

@@ianl7641 I bought the amoled. You’d figure they would have made a amoled version with the solar option and sapphire all in one, but they didn’t. So I was torn between sapphire and the solar. Then I found out that only MIP screens came in solar… so that was a deal breaker for me. Why pay that amount $$$$ for old technology?

[@ianl7641]

@@cmkpro81 Gotcha! Yea it would be so nice having a Amoled + solar version! I ordered the Fenix 8 amoled 47mm. I usually like the always on display so I’m kind of worried about the battery life. Do you have any thoughts about it and what’s your experience with amoled so far? Thanks!

[@cmkpro81]

@@ianl7641 so far I haven’t found not one thing that I don’t like about this watch. I don’t use the AOD because for me if I’m not looking at it then why should the screen be on wasting power… I have it set to the gesture setting. That way it’s there when I need it Johnny on the spot plus it saves battery. Today the battery is at 11% with estimated 2 days left. I’m not sure if it will make it those 2 days, but either way I am still extremely happy with it.

[@mauri1310]

No wait, what about mips vs amoled screen.. in navigation and map mode? Amoled higher definition show much more detail without needing to extra zoom in it

[@robertland2616]

Garmin is at the end point for the current processor. Great watches but maps and weather maps update slowly. Adding more gimmicks for more money but slow update speed is not ideal. If the processor was just a tad quicker I’d grab the Fēnix 8 because of the buttons and diving features. The other major detractor to upgrade is AI with microphone and speaker. That will probably be a no go end point for currently serving military guys (Tactix). Great watches but

[@dr.eldontyrell-rosen926]

Yup. No compelling reason to upgrade from 7 solar

[@noisetin]

This is kinda insane that they're so hesitant to update that CPU while charging the most in the Fenix history.

[@MikeJohnson-qy4wq]

Is it seriously the same CPU as the Fenix 7/epix series??

[@robertland2616]

@@MikeJohnson-qy4wq It is, and that’s a bummer!

[@dr.eldontyrell-rosen926]

@@robertland2616I'm waiting for the 9, my 7 still exceeds expectations

[@cjgars209]

Great review. I have a Fenix 6 Pro 47mm. For an upgrade, running, b/c and resort ski, Enduro 3 is a no brainer. I agree with your assessment. The battery life and cost savings…amazing for really the same features as an 8. I actually prefer a watch to have less connectivity options…that’s why I have a phone

[@rosohatica3016]

Hi, good comparison but noone raises a question of waterproofing of microphone and speakers. Sure they made buttons waterproof on Fenix 8, but arent mic and speakers a weak link for waterproofing now comparing to Enduro 3?

[@NildoScoop]

I'm not upgrading from my 7x pro sapphire solar.

[@lognload]

Had my fenix 6 pro solar for over 4 years now, then got an Apple Watch Ultra for a year and switched back to my fenix 6 in the last 6 months. Might upgrade to the Enduro 3 if there’s a decent Black Friday sale.

[@syberspy9]

Wow! Thank you so much for this video! I didn't even know the Enduro existed, and after thinking about how bright OLED would be in the wee hours in addition to the incredible battery life of the the Enduro 3. I was going to get a Fenix 8, but now I'll think I'll get the Enduro 3 and just have the O-ring changed every couple years. While I love the Fenix 8, my current Casio Pro-Trek solar has never needed a battery and that's what I'm aiming for with a solar watch.

[@dadandvideogames]

Got an Enduro 3 coming Thursday, which I'm pretty excited for! Great vid.

[@The.JZA.]

I wouldnt be able to decide. On the one hand the OLED looks really nice but on the other hand, I like the long battery life and solar charging (it's just cool). Thankfully I don't need to decide since I'm still rocking my Gen 1 Apple Watch Ultra 😅

[@renevh2832]

Your battery life preference doesn’t seem to align with your AWU selection.

[@The.JZA.]

@@renevh2832 Well I tried Garmin and I thought it was too dumb for my liking. I owned the Enduro 1 and then the Enduro 2. I still prefer the Ultra even though the battery life is much shorter. It can still go 2-3 days on a charge and in practice I just slap it on charge when I jump in the shower. It charges quickly and is super easy to slip off my wrist and onto the magnetic charging stand so it's not a big deal. The main reason I want longer battery life is for when I go hiking or when I go away on holiday. It's nice to have a bit more headroom without worrying about charging. But yeah, I'd still take the Apple Watch Ultra over any Garmin. To each their own.

[@flintoff2006]

Well you are the reason I purchased the 955 , you are also the reason I'll purchase the Enduro 3... Great review,pin pointing things an Average Joe like me wants to know...Thank for from England 👍

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Glad it was helpful!

[@NeouItier]

I've ordered the Fenix8 titanium beacause i love saphir screen and i do surf and windsurf so the waterproof resistance is apreciated. 😉

[@arkeez1181]

Enduro 3 is absolutely waterproof resistant tho? Correct me if I’m wrong

[@KissingTrails1]

​@@arkeez1181you are right, Up to 100m should Work for the Most I think

[@NeouItier]

@@arkeez1181 No that's correct.

[@hiroazuma1410]

thanks for showcasing the lime green band + enduro 3; only source I could find that shows this specific combination so decided to get one!

[@deanhelmeci5003]

I’ve already got the FENIX8 but I just ordered the Enduro three today. I really like the look of the MIP display even though I have been using the EPIX and EPIX pro for the last few years.

[@nigelaston8200]

are you made of money!

[@deanhelmeci5003]

@@nigelaston8200hahaha not quite. Just been blessed with a decent job and smart financial decision, well other than my watch buying addiction hahaha

[@kekqq]

Thank you, the screen segment helped me decide between mip and amoled

[@raltayer]

The plastic back on the Enduro is probably to improve the GPS reception - I would go plastic over metal for this kind of watch. Function over form... any day for this kind of watch

[@MassiRPM]

Bull shit

[@taylorklein2378]

Thank you for consistently mentioning your wrist size! I thought the 51mm case would be too big coming from a 46mm Fenix 6X Pro Solar, but it really isn't seeing it on your wrist!

[@JohnnyGification]

Rambo or Arnold would pick the Enduro 3 every day of the week. I know quite a few of these fellas out there. Scary dudes.

[@larsstougaard7097]

Mickey Rourke would go Fenix 8

[@afknow]

i change my Enduro 2 after 1.5 year of use to Garmin 8 amoled 51 and i am happy, i run like 90-100 km every week and now i will have like 10 days of battery life, still enough for me

[@expatadventureturkey9324]

I also have the Garmin Enduro 2 and really enjoy the flashlight and battery life, like you I average 75-90km a week. Always enjoying ultra trail events, with that said is the upgrade worth the purchase? How does the battery life differ? Thanks in advance for your feedback 🤙🏽

[@afknow]

@@expatadventureturkey9324 i happy really with Fenix 8)) my trail run 47 km 2600+ take near 20% of batter. wuth NO always on with every day 10k running near 12 days of battery life + all sattelites

[@khamm08able]

Thanks for the reviews, great information to help me decide what to buy. Have a fenix 6 pro and an instinct solar. Enduro 3 is for me, battery life, MIP display over amoled, not a diver and have enough devices with voice recognition.

[@CorbusNobulus]

This video was very helpful. Thanks. I was planning to get a Fenix 8, 51mm Solar but after watching this video I decided to go for the Enduro 3!

[@normanandy]

MIP on my Fenix7 47. I get 17 days on a charge while running 4x week. Haven’t seen anything I want on these last two updates.

[@lukasdvorok6456]

Alternative is also to get EPIX PRO series watch for almost 1/2 price. :)

[@eriktred]

Which is still fantastic and still my favorite sports watch I've ever owned. (Epix pro gen2)

[@noisetin]

Epix Pro g2 you meant, yes, that is the value king now.

[@igorilla5769]

​@@noisetin waiting for the price to drop even more, but the Epix Pro 2 really seems to be the best atm

[@MVK_GS]

​@@eriktredsame

[@adamkreuz9068]

Yea if this is the way things are going at Garmin then I'll hold on to my Epix Pro for the next 10 years at least

[@nathanhutton6766]

Really good video with some really good information. I’m currently using the Garmin Fenix 7X pro which I’ll definitely be hanging on to but I’ll also be adding the Enduro 3 after watching this video. Thanks

[@josejr.8671]

all my Garmins are MIP's they are fun and always on. but i tend to always turn on the back light in certain situations . (except sunlight of course) so Amoled wasn't far fetched and the vibrant colors and interactive experience with the Amoled kills the MIP any day. both versions are great to have in your collection. also corning gorilla glass in Amoled makes the colors pop even more then sapphire glass. like i always say "Garmin is King in anything they do watch related"

[@benoitmenigoz1166]

Will stay with my 7X solar until next year, when prices will drop a bit or if I recycle my old watch in my family, I will consider the Enduro3!

[@Jakubcaso]

But Enduro 3 is only bigist size 51 mm - i think is rly big, you must have big hand.

[@benoitmenigoz1166]

@@Jakubcaso not realy big hand, was affraid of that 2 years ago when I purchased the F7X (the only size was 51mm with the LED light) and came from apple watch 7 / and Suunto 9. Many years ago with my old Suunto Ambit 3, I remebered I the big size wasnt a problem, and now I assume the big watch and it's like a distinctive sign of outdoor man that I am. (sorry if the syntax is bad, I'm not english)

[@sgoofy77]

Thank you for more insight. It’s gonna be a enduro 3. Need to step up from an unreliable FR 645. I’m hard of hearing so the speaker and microphone is no need for me.

[@gilberttiborjakub9890]

Well, I am a die-hard Garmin fanboy. I have always bought the latest and greatest Fenix/Tactix since the Tactix Bravo series... However, I have to admit that this is the first time that I feel that the new model would be a waste of money.... I currently own a Fenix 7 pro and I have to admit that the latest model doesn't offer anything that I don't already have. The MIP screen is a must for me as I usually go on multi-day events such as sailing, hiking or cycling... The Fenix 7 pro already has the 5th heart rate sensor, so that's something I already have. The microphone is completely unnecessary for me. I also appreciate the more mature, more reliable firmware (I used to test betas but there was far too much unnecessary frustration and wasted battery cycles...). So Garmin has made my life easier this time around, because I can't see any advantage with this model compared to my Fenix 7 pro... Maybe the Enduro 3 would be grate however I switched back to the 47mm case size because I feel more comfortable for daily driver.

[@claudiobarreira9115]

I have a one watch! A Garmin FR235! I'm happy! Just needed navigation and batrery for the ultras!!! That's way too much money! But like the Enduro!

[@davidbraswell1481]

too similar to the Garmin Epix pro 51 mm, not enough of an upgrade for me to run out and buy it........I on the other hand, I am waiting on Apples release!! Can't wait to see what they do! I hope it's mind-boggling!!!

[@ChaseTheSummit]

If Apple does something with their battery life (even at the sacrifice of features) I'll be listening!

[@HugoParedes]

Without offline maps and better battery life, it’s a no go for me. Another thing I think it’s underrated is the data and health features from Garmin. With Apple, you need to get 3rd party apps, often with a subscription

[@davidbraswell1481]

@@HugoParedes battery life doesn’t bother me if your a Garmin guy or an Apple guy good luck with it, I still wear both on opposite sides AWU on the left and Garmin Epix Pro gen 2 51mm on the right and I still love my AWU a bunch more. I do not have to drag my phone everywhere I go on my runs camping hiking and with my Garmin I have to take it everywhere to get any kind of messages off line maps are cool but if I can’t get an important message or call it all goes out the window. Next battery life, I have my watch set up to run at night with the strobe flashing so I do not get killed or hit by a vehicle. This allows me 4 days of battery on my Epix Pro I guess because of the 2 hours of strobe but anyways that’s just about 1 day longer than my AWU but as I have said before battery doesn’t make a difference in my mind because mine go on the charger daily so no worries there ever. If we go camping hunting or back packing we always carry battery banks so no worries there either, it’s nice not to have to charge daily but it’s a muscle memory type thing for me …. I prolly will never buy another Garmin watch again unless there is a dramatic mind boggling upgrade, which I don’t see coming this speaker addition to me is not going to get it not even if they add cellular the Apple Watch is just too easy and a no brainer for daily life and exercise

[@Bodzio1982]

The same here. Waiting for Apple to release something fresh but if they don’t then probably I will get enduro 3.

[@SciFiScavenger]

Great comparison video.i have a 6X but need to upgrade. I was tempted by the 51mm 8 solar but battery life is the killer app for me (i have a couple of multi-day events coming up) so that, along with the lower price tag, plus i dont need the bells and whistles that come with the 8, i am increasingly leaning Enduro 3. I'll wait to see if i can grab a bargain in the black friday consumerist frenzy.

[@AbeyantHero]

Do you mind making a mapping /navigation comparison between Garmin Enduro 3 & Amazfit Trex 3? I'd like to see how it holds up in on the fly logical- navigating if off the course & also capacity of map storage

[@ChaseTheSummit]

They're very different in mapping. Yes, the Amazfit renders maps fast and smooth but it lacks routeable maps so you can't navigate to destinations on the fly without first designing a course on your phone and sending it. The maps are essentially just an image and not actual map data. Garmin comes pre-installed with an entire country of maps installed. Amazfit can only sync a 300x300 mile area. Garmin has a navigation/course builder tool in their app and can create dynamic round trip routes. Amazfit does not have a course builder and your need to get GPX files from another source like strava. Hope that helps.

[@robertmay7331]

Great video. I'm really tempted by the Enduro 3. Regarding navigation, is map coverage global, or regional based on purchase location? it might sound a silly question but the GARMIN vehicle SATNAV's have regional maps loaded based on purchase region (Europe, North America etc) which makes sense, but a smartwatch user is more like to travel around, potentially to another global region. I'd be disappointed if it didn't work on a global scale.

[@MrJacojakes]

I've decided to upgrade from the 6x to the fenix 8 51mm over the endero 3 purely because I like the look of the fenix 8. Most of my day I spend in board rooms and meeting and to pair the titanium fenix 8 with a metal band looks much better when dressing for work vs the endero 3. To be honest. I do think the endero 3 is better value for money

[@acmeprime2273]

Bought Enduro 3 yesterday. Cant wait for its arrival.

[@foetor]

Sent my back. Couldnt read it indoors. For outside perfect but inside not.

[@acmeprime2273]

​@@foetor gesture backlight solves that. I have a 955 solar so I'm not concerned.

[@choanlpoto]

@@foetorwtf lol

[@theyouuser]

Got mine today. Absolutely love it so far. Only done 1 run, love all the features.

[@sillyboy32]

where are you buying from.

[@os2171]

MIP HERE. The price makes garmin fenix 8 out of question. Hence my new question is either Garmin Fenix 7 Pro 47 mm or Garmin Enduro 3? (My wrist size is ~163 - 166 mm; a small one). Thanks

[@kennykoh7353]

MIP gang, Probably 7s pro that's what I'm gonna go look for now!

[@szucszoltan4819]

Epix pro 47mm here. No mind to replace it at least for 2-3 more years.

[@AlexTushinsky]

I'm still holding out for the Garmin Whoop band! As for the two watches - I loved my Enduro 1, but then was spoiled by the Apple Watch display, and found the Enduro 2 too bland / dark. I did try the Epix Pro with AMOLED display, but couldn't deal with the lack of smartphone features I got used to with Apple Watch. At the end of the day, it's Apple Watch but would be so nice to get a Whoop like band from Garmin.

[@channul4887]

I'd love a band, infinite battery life and 0 cringe when wearing a real watch alongside it. HR strap capable of doing metrics would be even better.

[@DonJulio4649]

Waiting on my fenix 8 solar 51mm to ship out.

[@marinovmomchil]

Great video as usual. I do start wondering will there be an Instinct 3/crossover or Garmin will leave this gap for Enduro 3.

[@robsilv148]

I’m not a runner, more MTB and hiking. Do you think it’s a good idea to get the enduro 3 vs the fenix 8? I’m liking the enduro 3

[@PawelUram]

I haven't seen anyone mentioning AMOLED Screen Burn-In. All OLED and AMOLED displays are prone to this issues and it's rather matter of time when it happens to your screen, rather than if it happens. It's just the way the technology works. Because watches display static image all the time, they are the most vulenrable type of OLED devices. Companies use different tricks to prevent burn-in but I sooner or later it happens to every watch. So if you're planning to keep you watch longer than 1-2 years - keep that in mind. I'm really excited to buy Fenix 8 AMOLED, but the burn-in issue is the only think restraining me from it. If you spend 1000-1200$, you don't want your screen to have some flaws after 1-2 years of usage... Think twice before making your choice.

[@dandronemoan4041]

I have burn-in after 2 years on my Fenix 7

[@lhzsdgsfbvv]

My old Venu 1 still runs in my Family. It's ~5 years old but doesn't have the issue. If you read about this topic on the Garmin forums, a watch is often replaced.

Venu 3 and no burn in - but I also don't like the always on feature so I guess that's no problem here

[@NickW90]

I had an apple watch ultra for over two years with always on display on every day with no burn in. Quit worrying and buy the watch. If you have issues garmin is awesome to deal with and would probably send u a watch with no charge anyways

[@robhunt8378]

I don't think it's such a big deal in practice. The mitigations in place to stop it from happening are annoying though (the auto-dimming, no white backgrounds...). Accelerated battery aging is even less frequently mentioned and it's very real, especially with AOD on. Garmin won't mind if now all these fancy Amoled watches have to be replaced at a faster rate ;)

[@tecmissle9256]

Might be dumb but I really want the Titanium plate at the back ... do not dive but those buttons for swimming are a must. Idk I do not need a mic or a speaker ... so much i want to save few quid ...

[@etiennericco]

Hey… thanks for the great work… don’t you think there is a case for a Forerunner 965 vs Epix 8 video? Aside from the build, looks you basically get the same training tool and features at almost half price with the 965 vs the Epix 8? Is Garmin losing it?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

It’s always been the case that the top tier forerunner was essentially a plastic Fenix… that’s sort of what’s going on here too. The Fenix 8 has a lot of hardware advantages but at a software level they’re nearly the same watch.

[@anthonyrampino7734]

How do you feel about the Enduro 3 vs the Suunto vertical? Display and everything else?

[@Stockfish1511]

I have epix gen 2 and tactix 7. Ill wait for Tactix 8. Hopefully there is one on the way. Tactix series are amazing in looks

[@sangelin9]

I have a 7x solar sapphire and an mk3 (for diving). So I have the direct comparison between mip and amoled. The amoled is cool but I agree with the guy who said it is distracting. I don’t need to watch videos or pictures on my wrist. The only real advantage is when viewing maps but mip is good enough for me. The brighter the conditions, the more awesome the contrast on the mip. And you can literally go on vacation for a week or two and leave the charger at home. The solar on the 7x however is a joke. I also had an instinct 2 which actually charged when left in the sun. The 7x only pretends to, though it’s cool to have the lux meter widget. So with all this, if the enduro 3 actually has a functioning solar, it would be my choice. But I’ll wait so see real life reports on the solar.

[@batusun717]

yes, 7x solar just pretends to solar itself...

[@arilaine6113]

Amoled is very good looking, true, but the clock shows numbers, amoled is not necessary for that. Also battery with MIP is superior, so for me MIP is the best. Also, I want to use the clock, it's not an accessory for me. MIP has very good quality and I like solar option even it is not a total game changer but it's a nice addition. I don't dive and I have a phone with me all the time (imho too much).

[@constantinvijoli]

My curiosity: what will be your next watch that you will wear permanently? or will you continue to wear the Garmin FR965? or maybe FR975? Instinct 3? by the way Enduro 3

[@scriptosaurusrex]

Do people in the US use voice commands to their phone a lot? Obviously people must use this, else it would be in the google/apple shelf of shame by now - even at the cost of losing the ability to spy on people. However, I have literally never seen anyone use a voice command where I live. None of my friends use them etc. I have some friends in a different country who set timers on their alexa, but they are literally the only people I know who use them. Yet, the fenix 8 has a microphone as a core flagship feature. Just curious.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Pretty common in the USA on Apple/Google devices.

[@LeonidasontheTrail]

Once the price is right on the Enduro 3 I will swap to that from my 6X pro. For my use, battery life is king especially in the FKT realm. The less I have to worry about charging a battery the better.

[@enmodo]

Thanks some guy on the Internet. I think my next Garmin may be a micro-led one but I'll wait for at least one iteration for them to get all the kinks out. Until then my trusty low cost 255 MIP watch is good enough for me. I like the plastic watch back - they have the fewest issues with allergies although I'm guessing titanium would be pretty inert too? And the MIP display is still my favorite - I'd recommend people use a watch face that's black on white during day and switches to white on black only at night, black on white is way more visible in bright sun. Since I always have my phone with me somewhere (even when running I wear a vest to put the phone in) all the other battery consuming features of the higher priced Garmins are wasted on me. If money were no object then maybe - although seriously, those bigger sizes are huge and phat!

[@sarjannarwan6896]

Enduro 1 has been so great for me I feel like I don't need a replacement. If I lose less than half battery after a 26 hour ultra with constant screen usage and using the flash light a couple times the boost in battery to Enduro 2 doesn't matter as much for me. Although the clearer screen might be nicer. Also Garmin is really great with product support. After a couple years the start/stop button was jammed and I tried to fix it. I mentioned it to them and they instantly gave me a return / replacement and I've got a new Enduro 1. Garmin is just a brand I trust from their actions and it does everything I need.

[@cutterdevil]

I'm still happy with my Fenix 7x. I will probably skip the F8 and E3 unless my current F7X die suddenly. Would you mind doing a comparison video for F7 and F8?

[@namecollision]

I have an original Venu. The battery needs charging twice a day and the Amoled screen is fading quickly. I like the amoled. My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so a bright display is a big benefit. I'm leaning towards the 51mm Fenix Saphire/Ti. I tend to keep my gear till it dies, so the cost difference isn't a huge deal over the long term. It is damb pricey though. My one concern is that since the battery only needs to be charged occasionally, it will likely last a lot longer. That make the amoled display the weak point. Then again, maybe amoled longevity has improved since my venu was made.

[@panzer948]

What if i am a first time buyer of any Garmin? Think it was a good time to enter the fray. I went with the 8 AMLOED...

[@MrSpaecki]

What’s your daily Driver - Forerunner 965? Thanks for your Videos!

[@francescocapizzi3109]

Happy user of a Forerunner 265. If I ever choose to upgrade why should I pick an Enduro 3 instead of a 965?

[@stefanw4191]

I need a watch mostly for mtb enduro and mtb downhill. Hiking is second on my list and snorkelling with max depth dives of 25m 3weeks a year. I had a Coros Vertix 2 but it quit working (the confirm button) after 2,5years. As long there’s no one to repair it it’s for the trash. Now I need another one. Long battery life obligatory. Suggestions? Thx

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Fenix 8 would check all of those boxes.

[@CalmLikeABomb76]

Not sure if you cover this in the vid. What screen technology does the solar fenix 8's have? Anyway, i'm probably going for the fenix 8, as i dont like the big bulky enduro's, so thanks for clearing up the sizes for me :)

[@motorola6502]

MIP vs Amoled and big plus for battery in size 51 - take into account that frequent and rapid discharge destroys the battery. And dont forget about the fact that you probably need sometime started activity with gps and other measurement. About the map - I prefer mobile display for map study.

[@666klamso666]

I have Fenix 6x Pro and looking for replacement and what I really want is the same watch with better battery so Enduro 3 ftw

[@LyubomirTsekov]

MIP user here, current owner of 6X Sapphire, considering an upgrade, but still havent decided yet which one of these suits my needs. In one hand it would be awesome to have diving capabilities, but i find the mic useless, on the other, i like Enduro, because it closes the gap for my understanding what Fenix should be... and i still cannot make a decision.

[@hawaiian-cerveza]

I still have my Fenix 3 lol. Just don't have the HR features unless I use a strap or hat.

[@ΧρηστοςΕλαιακιας]

F8 , run,and dive also with microphone and speaker ,the best

[@anthonyrampino7734]

Love the video! But, it raises another two questions. Since these watches are expensive, I plan on having one for a long time. Since the o rings on the enduro may dry rot, is the 8 a better choice for longevity? And if I buy a enduro from play better and don’t like the way the maps look will they take it back so I can get the amoled 8?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

The O-Ring thing isn't a huge deal. I have a Fenix 1 from 2012 that was used for swimming and showered with and to this day still works while relying on the "old button" technology. That said, the new button tech is super cool and the fact that it's literally impossible for water to penetrate the watch is nice peace of mind. But not totally necessary. When it comes to Playbetter... Yes if you don't like how it looks they will happily take your return. They are Garmin Authorized sellers but also understand if it's not what you expected they need to take it back... that's why I promote them!

[@anthonyrampino7734]

@@ChaseTheSummit thanks! That’s a good peace of mind. I’ll be buying one of these watches from them. Does the Enduro have the weather over lays on the maps or is that just for the amoled display?

[@unforgivenk07]

hello, but my question is (I don't like oled due to always on display not always visible and battery not sufficient) what is the difference between fenix 7x pro sapphire, fenix 8 sapphire(mip screen) and enduro 3?

[@Shawn-ky2tw]

The weight difference of the Enduro adds additional 10km to my runs..My one much stronger arm will start looking equal in strength to my other, thanks to the Enduro..

[@collinmorris]

Just got a Fenix 7x sapphire solar for $650 brand new. 😊

[@phehibs]

I got epix pro 47mm for 600ish English. Upgraded leather band version too. Way better deal than both these watches.

[@saikrishnagangavalli8477]

Epix 2 sapphire got $350

[@phehibs]

@@saikrishnagangavalli8477 pro version so much better IMO.

[@Canyons_2_hollers]

@@saikrishnagangavalli8477 Where from ?

[@Justyburger]

I like MIP because I want the display to always be on and I like the solar option too, so my choice is narrowed down to those versions of the 51" Fenix and the Enduro. I'm not a diver, but I do a lot of ocean swimming. Currently using an Instinct 2 solar. If I did buy an Amoled, it would be the Tactix, because I really like the red shift mode and there is also a green tactical display mode. I like the bezel of the tactix too. I'm assuming a Tactix 8 will be arriving soon and I think I am going to wait for that.

[@pabloabugo]

I hope you make a video comparison between the 965 and Fenix 8.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Evenutally!

[@AdhamNafea]

I am new to this and i like your review, i have a question, for pilots does Fenix 8 has any features for flying, navigation etc? are there better options out there i should be ware of? thanks

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Fenix 8 doesn't have aviation features. For that you'll need the Tactix 7 AMOLED, D2 Air, or Mach Aviator. Hope that helps!

[@timeisnow33]

Hi. Sorry for stupid question. On enduro watch is there a option tubturn off sollar charging by desire?

[@anthonyrampino7734]

Does the Enduro 3 have green and red shift like the fenix 8? Or is that just for amoled display?

[@60beats44]

Thank you for this and all of your other informative videos. Hope you don’t mind me commenting on style. I would prefer if you did not ‘overlay' the end and beginning of some sentences, omitting natural breathing pauses. You also seem to shout your statements which is somewhat grating especially when listening through headphones. Hope you don’t mind this feedback.

[@mkoijnbhu3018]

I love your clips rly ! Sweet comp between them but I have maybe a silly but a lil personal question, got same wrist size like you 165 and how is enduro / 51 mm in daily using ? Or is it way better to keep 47mm ? X size looks quite good I think but What about wearing it 24/7 ? Would be awesome to hear your opinion ! Greetings from a big fan ❤

[@ericknowles6257]

Thanks, just bought the Enduro 3 through your link. Appreciate your thoughts!

[@deletefalseculture]

I am convinced the “sensor guard” is to give it an Apple Watch Ultra look with its action button. Also there is no advantage other than battery and bezel width between the 47mm and 51mm variants.

[@skymalotte]

Another awesome video!! Thanks for the info man! Leaning towards the enduro I think!

[@TheLiberatedMonkey]

Kind of regret switching from the 6X pro to the new AMOLED. It’s WAYY harder to see in bright sunlight when riding by bike and running. Plus, the gesture feature doesn’t work on the 8 when I wear it on the inside of my wrist during my runs which totally sucks. I may return it. MIP is SO good for sunny visibility.

[@dizi17]

Ok so now the next question is, if I'm a mips kind of guy, coming from a 955. Do I go for one of the old fenix 7 pros, or the new eduro, is it that much different (apart from the major battery life)

[@jonasenerstam3032]

After watching this video i ordered the fenix 8 47mm amoled saphire. Im uppgrading ftom the vivoactive 5. 😊

[@georgepanou4587]

Great videos, as for the tattoo “Μου λείπεις”… are you of a Greek descent?

[@Yannick_Oby]

Quick question about the display sizes: We installed a 1.4 inch display on both the 2 Enduro and 3 Enduro series. I would like to install a tempered glass, but there is no suitable one for the 3 series yet. Is the total area (including solar) the same size? The solar area has been increased, but the bezel has been made narrower. Thank you in advance!

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Enduro 3 is Sapphire so it doesn't really need a screen protector. If you must have one I'd suggest shopping by size. Measure the glass with calipers or a fine ruler and then search for that size in terms of millimeters on amazon.

[@ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣΑΝΔΡΙΚΟΥΛΑΣ]

Thanks for your information, is it in your intentions to check the performance of the new solar charging design?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Yes, coming soon!

[@NataliePerry-jb8io]

Any thoughts on the Enduro 3 vs. the Fenix E? I'm shopping for my husband and want to get him the best watch possible. The price ranges are close, and it's hard to identify which features are important (or even which features are different) between the two. Someone tell me which one he wants!

[@dr_delay]

@ChaseTheSummit have you been able to replicate the cold water crashing etc. especially with your pressure tanks? I might be waiting a while until this is "sorted". Thanks for all your videos - shared this one to a friend trying to decide on a theft replacement of his original 7x :-(

[@ChaseTheSummit]

I've had zero issues with Fenix 8, Fenix E, and Enduro 3. I've been wearing the Fenix 8 specifically every day since early August and haven't encountered a single crash. Seems odd that so many seem to be complaining about it.

[@dr_delay]

@@ChaseTheSummit It seems to be once submerged in 8 degrees (metric) water and below. Not that I would be doing that by choice but it seems that even water in the showers etc seem to be causing a crash or turn off. It would be interesting from a reputable ;-) reviewer to see if that can be replicated. Thoughts on forums are something to do with temp and the button design and inducing a long press - but also seemingly linked to the touchscreen interface. Cold water is not my thing - a Pom born in Malawi, living in South Africa - you can keep the cold :-) Thanks again