Garmin Fenix 8 vs Enduro 3 (Don't Waste Your Money!)

[@your_avg_joe]

MIP for life guy here. I came to this video to stay up to date on features. Happy to say that my Fenix 6Pro is still serving me very well - no need to replace this gen. I hope Garmin never phases out MIP, though now only pairing MIP with solar is starting to feel a bit like that.

[@chickennugget11470]

Not if you keep buying the mip models lol

[@daveevans7151]

7x Solar here…thought about OLED for a brief moment, then I didn’t since outdoors is by biggest use case. I am interested to see the new Solar screen and charge rates compared to the 7. Am with you though, never really, when backpacking, have I said, “man this watch sucks” lol.

[@Tha-King-Arthur]

ALOMED for life guy here. I came to this video to stay up to date on features. Happy to say that my EPIX PRO 2 is still serving me very well - no need to replace this gen. I hope Garmin never phases out AMOLED, though now only pairing AMOLED with solar is starting to feel a bit like that.

[@AddingLifeAdventure]

I'm rocking the Fenix 6X. I only wish I had a flashlight. I am not sure when I'll upgrade.

[@brum293]

MIP fans, try using amoled for a couple of weeks. I think most of you will convert. I went from Fenix 6 Pro to Forerunner 965 and the amoled is just so much better.

[@samanderson8709]

I bought a Fenix 8 51 Sapphire to replace my Apple Watch Ultra. I cannot imagine going back to charging a watch every day, this Fenix is awesome. It will go almost a month between charges and also has all the features of my Approach S70 golf watch. Worth every penny for me.

[@Michael-vf5id]

garmin salesman detected shut up!

[@Sancho_Loco]

Amen 🙏 😂

[@craigthorp4913]

Agree totally. The longer battery life is a deal breaker.

[@KonstantinosDouros]

My opinion. I am a runner since 2018. Bought a forerunner 235. Kept it for four years. Bought a Fenix 6. Kept it one year. Forerunner 255. One year. Instinct 2. Six months. Now I own a one month old Fenix 7 pro. Garmin is talented at making you buy the new thing. I could still do the job with my Forerunner 235 or at least stick to the Fenix 6. Thankfully I sold them without problem and at good prices but God, you just need GPS, Interval training and good looks. Looking forward for my first Marathon in Athens. 🎉🎉

[@1111undici1111]

Yeah, and the Fenix 7 Pro has the _exact same_ sensors than Fenix 8 or Enduro 3 has! Fenix 8 or Enduro 3 did not come with a new sensor version, it's the exact same that the Fenix 7 pro has! So Fenix 7 pro is as capable as Fenix 8 or Enduro 3. If you don't need mic/speaker or diving functionality, get Fenix 7 pro and pay less!

[@balkeep]

Talented in making you buy a new thing? I would not say so. I'm still satisfied with my 5X Plus and see 0 reasons to upgrade feature wise, except maybe flashlight but seriously, not 1.2K for electronic watch lol. Used 7 Pro lately for a week, thought it might sparkle a desire to own one in me, no, not really, pretty much the same watch, maybe a little bit prettier thanks to a bit smaller bezels, well, and a flashlight. Everything else is literally the same. Would I pay 1k extra for it? Not a chance

[@TunnelJumper]

Good luck on the marathon!

[@eftaxopoulo]

Εγώ έχω κολλήσει 4 χρόνια με τα Instict (Solar 2 χρόνια και άλλα δύο το 2Χ) και είμαι πολύ χαρούμενος. Αλλά το Fenix 8 μου γυαλίζει, αν και δεν είμαι φαν της έγχρωμης οθόνης και των "φλυαρων" μενου

[@KonstantinosDouros]

​@TunnelJumper thank you very much!!

[@rungeordierun]

I'm running 3200 miles coast to coast across the USA in 100 days next year. I think it's Enduro 3 for me. Thanks for a really good insight into the options.

[@Jakubcaso]

But big size. You have big hand? So its ok

[@gundamfloss]

3200 miles ! Wow that's great.

[@Thomas-fk3cw]

Already did that run. Then I hopped on one foot back across the US. Pogo stick next time.

[@7331warrior]

We love the multiple videos. The more information the better, these aren’t cheap watches and I want to make the absolute best choice.

[@yawillykwily7179]

My Fenix 7s still going strong lol No more consumerism 😅

[@ismathem]

Amen to that! Same here.

[@ThongNguyen-pc6wu]

Yah same to me

[@ivanteo1973]

My Fenix 3 going strong.

[@stevek4382]

My 6 sapphire is also. The prices are getting to damn high. Lmao Oh, MIP only here.

[@1111undici1111]

Same here! I've got the Fenix 7 pro and it has the same sensors than what the Fenix 8 or Enduro 3 has! It is as capable as those. I don't need mic/speaker or diving functionality thus Fenix 7 pro offers me everything I need. Absolutely no need to upgrade.

[@ChristofferKarlssonChris]

Still rocking my Fenix 3 since 2018 :) Not sure when I will ever have the need to upgrade. Still amazing battery life etc

[@collinmorris]

@@ChristofferKarlssonChris curious how many hours full gps you get?

[@lhzsdgsfbvv]

Recovery time and training readyness where gamechanger for me. But it would also be available on the Epix 2 (pro) and Fenix 7 (pro)..

[@pcyclologic]

@@collinmorrisim still running my fenix 3 hr saphire on bike tours. If im using it in normal mode with gps on itll last me a day of up to 12 hours so ill need to recharge it every night, which can be annoying if youre off grid, yet the plug lll will recharge it “for free” if youre covering some kilometers at decent speed :) Still considering wether the time has come for it yet

[@nickcoyne4949]

that's amazing - the buttons fell off of mine after 3 years.

[@Flower122-iq]

same here. finis 3 HR since 2017. but now I feel the HR is not accurate.

[@knotsable]

Oled screens get praised for their brightness and vivid colors, but that is exactly why i prefer mip: it is just less distracting. I dont want another distracting screen wrapped on my wrist.

[@Jakubcaso]

exactly.. and in the evening it burns the eyes.

[@ToniTio89]

Exactly, there is one youtuber who points this out: Mark Lewis.

[@pslinares]

I agree with you, and I add that oled screens burn out on some areas if someone uses always the same watch face.

[@anthonyrampino7734]

@@ToniTio89you said Mark Lewis, do you remember the name of the video so that I can look it up?

[@DreiK96]

Can't you minimize the brightness of Fenix 8?

[@cmkpro81]

Hey 👋 regular man here. I purchased the Fenix 8-47mm Sapphire Titanium. I upgraded from the Vivoactive 4. It just finally bit the dust after serval hard years. I’m an electrician by trade, sportsman/outdoorsman, DIYer, farmer, builder, etc…..My hands make a good living for my family. So I got the one I know will take a beating. I’ve had mine since launch day and haven’t charged it yet with 26% on the screen and estimated 4 days left of battery….. I’m impressed and extremely happy with my purchase.

[@ianl7641]

Is that the amoled or solar version?

[@cmkpro81]

@@ianl7641 I bought the amoled. You’d figure they would have made a amoled version with the solar option and sapphire all in one, but they didn’t. So I was torn between sapphire and the solar. Then I found out that only MIP screens came in solar… so that was a deal breaker for me. Why pay that amount $$$$ for old technology?

[@ianl7641]

@@cmkpro81 Gotcha! Yea it would be so nice having a Amoled + solar version! I ordered the Fenix 8 amoled 47mm. I usually like the always on display so I’m kind of worried about the battery life. Do you have any thoughts about it and what’s your experience with amoled so far? Thanks!

[@cmkpro81]

@@ianl7641 so far I haven’t found not one thing that I don’t like about this watch. I don’t use the AOD because for me if I’m not looking at it then why should the screen be on wasting power… I have it set to the gesture setting. That way it’s there when I need it Johnny on the spot plus it saves battery. Today the battery is at 11% with estimated 2 days left. I’m not sure if it will make it those 2 days, but either way I am still extremely happy with it.

[@terryfurlong518]

I did think about waiting for these watches. I am so glad that I brought a 965 on discount earlier in the year. For once I have chosen wisely.

[@hiroazuma1410]

thanks for showcasing the lime green band + enduro 3; only source I could find that shows this specific combination so decided to get one!

[@heinrichkleist3473]

Where does one get a lime green band like that?

[@Knenemeka]

Great review as always ❤keep up the great work!! I ordered a Fenix 8 51mm black OLED I’m excited and can’t wait to get it

[@carsons5750]

0:39 is why I will be staying with MIP. As petty as it seems, I just hate looking at white numbers on a black background on a watch, especially when running in the daylight. Maybe if AMOLED ever lets me do black text on white I'll consider buying one, but I also dislike the raise to wake function and brightness in dark settings.

[@scriptosaurusrex]

White background would be a huge battery drain in an oled display. Then garmin would have to deal with all the returns for disappointing battery life. I doubt it will come.

[@myralchista]

It can be achieved without battery consumption. I saw white screen on the new LCD e reader (forgot the name). It's white when turned off too. Probably it has some disadvantages.

[@scriptosaurusrex]

@@myralchista LCD technology is completely different than (am)oled. The Wikipedia page on oled states that an all white oled screen uses approx 300% _more_ power than an all white lcd. This in stark contrast to typically using 60-80% _of_ the power that an lcd screen uses in typical consumption with more balanced pictures. You sure it wasn't an e-ink screen, if it stayed white when off?

[@robhunt8378]

But the watch face is so pretty and colourful though!

[@mrcstb7479]

Makes more sense to compare enduro 3 to fenix 8 solar…. And this is much harder choice. If someone is into amoled screen, there is no point even thinking about Enduro.

[@dadandvideogames]

Got an Enduro 3 coming Thursday, which I'm pretty excited for! Great vid.

[@CorbusNobulus]

This video was very helpful. Thanks. I was planning to get a Fenix 8, 51mm Solar but after watching this video I decided to go for the Enduro 3!

[@afknow]

i change my Enduro 2 after 1.5 year of use to Garmin 8 amoled 51 and i am happy, i run like 90-100 km every week and now i will have like 10 days of battery life, still enough for me

[@expatadventureturkey9324]

I also have the Garmin Enduro 2 and really enjoy the flashlight and battery life, like you I average 75-90km a week. Always enjoying ultra trail events, with that said is the upgrade worth the purchase? How does the battery life differ? Thanks in advance for your feedback 🤙🏽

[@afknow]

@@expatadventureturkey9324 i happy really with Fenix 8)) my trail run 47 km 2600+ take near 20% of batter. wuth NO always on with every day 10k running near 12 days of battery life + all sattelites

[@cjgars209]

Great review. I have a Fenix 6 Pro 47mm. For an upgrade, running, b/c and resort ski, Enduro 3 is a no brainer. I agree with your assessment. The battery life and cost savings…amazing for really the same features as an 8. I actually prefer a watch to have less connectivity options…that’s why I have a phone

[@gilberttiborjakub9890]

Well, I am a die-hard Garmin fanboy. I have always bought the latest and greatest Fenix/Tactix since the Tactix Bravo series... However, I have to admit that this is the first time that I feel that the new model would be a waste of money.... I currently own a Fenix 7 pro and I have to admit that the latest model doesn't offer anything that I don't already have. The MIP screen is a must for me as I usually go on multi-day events such as sailing, hiking or cycling... The Fenix 7 pro already has the 5th heart rate sensor, so that's something I already have. The microphone is completely unnecessary for me. I also appreciate the more mature, more reliable firmware (I used to test betas but there was far too much unnecessary frustration and wasted battery cycles...). So Garmin has made my life easier this time around, because I can't see any advantage with this model compared to my Fenix 7 pro... Maybe the Enduro 3 would be grate however I switched back to the 47mm case size because I feel more comfortable for daily driver.

[@_J.F_]

Owning a Fenix 7 Pro I am not going to be updating just yet but if I was I would very likely go fro the Enduro 3 as I feel it offers the natural progression of what Fenix used to be. My only gripe is that it doesn't come in 47mm, which I would prefer as I have roughly same size wrist as yours and feel that 51mm is just that tiny bit too big.

[@syberspy9]

Wow! Thank you so much for this video! I didn't even know the Enduro existed, and after thinking about how bright OLED would be in the wee hours in addition to the incredible battery life of the the Enduro 3. I was going to get a Fenix 8, but now I'll think I'll get the Enduro 3 and just have the O-ring changed every couple years. While I love the Fenix 8, my current Casio Pro-Trek solar has never needed a battery and that's what I'm aiming for with a solar watch.

[@MrJacojakes]

I've decided to upgrade from the 6x to the fenix 8 51mm over the endero 3 purely because I like the look of the fenix 8. Most of my day I spend in board rooms and meeting and to pair the titanium fenix 8 with a metal band looks much better when dressing for work vs the endero 3. To be honest. I do think the endero 3 is better value for money

[@vosch8229]

Team MIP. Staying with my 7x Pro for quite some time, I guess.

[@ToniTio89]

Yeah! Me too!

[@ventsislavstefanov9590]

Why? There's 8 Solar with MIP...

[@vosch8229]

@@ventsislavstefanov9590 Because nobody gives me the F8 for free. The benefits of the new watch compared to mine are way too small, while the price is way too high. And if I would upgrade, I'd go for the Enduro 3.

[@sanquineo]

@@ventsislavstefanov9590 because nobody needs speaker for 1300 ???? lol.

[@ventsislavstefanov9590]

@ When you say "nobody" do you mean you know all Fenix owners and potential owners? I've seen people upgrade for less but that's besides the point. I just pointed out that there's an 8 with MIP. The way OP wrote his post it implies that you have to have 7 if you want MIP which isn't true.

[@robertland2616]

Garmin is at the end point for the current processor. Great watches but maps and weather maps update slowly. Adding more gimmicks for more money but slow update speed is not ideal. If the processor was just a tad quicker I’d grab the Fēnix 8 because of the buttons and diving features. The other major detractor to upgrade is AI with microphone and speaker. That will probably be a no go end point for currently serving military guys (Tactix). Great watches but

[@dr.eldontyrell-rosen926]

Yup. No compelling reason to upgrade from 7 solar

[@noisetin]

This is kinda insane that they're so hesitant to update that CPU while charging the most in the Fenix history.

[@MikeJohnson-qy4wq]

Is it seriously the same CPU as the Fenix 7/epix series??

[@robertland2616]

@@MikeJohnson-qy4wq It is, and that’s a bummer!

[@dr.eldontyrell-rosen926]

@@robertland2616I'm waiting for the 9, my 7 still exceeds expectations

[@kekqq]

Thank you, the screen segment helped me decide between mip and amoled

[@taylorklein2378]

Thank you for consistently mentioning your wrist size! I thought the 51mm case would be too big coming from a 46mm Fenix 6X Pro Solar, but it really isn't seeing it on your wrist!

[@acmeprime2273]

Bought Enduro 3 yesterday. Cant wait for its arrival.

[@foetor]

Sent my back. Couldnt read it indoors. For outside perfect but inside not.

[@acmeprime2273]

​@@foetor gesture backlight solves that. I have a 955 solar so I'm not concerned.

[@choanlpoto]

@@foetorwtf lol

[@theyouuser]

Got mine today. Absolutely love it so far. Only done 1 run, love all the features.

[@sillyboy32]

where are you buying from.

[@khamm08able]

Thanks for the reviews, great information to help me decide what to buy. Have a fenix 6 pro and an instinct solar. Enduro 3 is for me, battery life, MIP display over amoled, not a diver and have enough devices with voice recognition.

[@flintoff2006]

Well you are the reason I purchased the 955 , you are also the reason I'll purchase the Enduro 3... Great review,pin pointing things an Average Joe like me wants to know...Thank for from England 👍

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Glad it was helpful!

[@The.JZA.]

I wouldnt be able to decide. On the one hand the OLED looks really nice but on the other hand, I like the long battery life and solar charging (it's just cool). Thankfully I don't need to decide since I'm still rocking my Gen 1 Apple Watch Ultra 😅

[@renevh2832]

Your battery life preference doesn’t seem to align with your AWU selection.

[@The.JZA.]

@@renevh2832 Well I tried Garmin and I thought it was too dumb for my liking. I owned the Enduro 1 and then the Enduro 2. I still prefer the Ultra even though the battery life is much shorter. It can still go 2-3 days on a charge and in practice I just slap it on charge when I jump in the shower. It charges quickly and is super easy to slip off my wrist and onto the magnetic charging stand so it's not a big deal. The main reason I want longer battery life is for when I go hiking or when I go away on holiday. It's nice to have a bit more headroom without worrying about charging. But yeah, I'd still take the Apple Watch Ultra over any Garmin. To each their own.

[@josejr.8671]

all my Garmins are MIP's they are fun and always on. but i tend to always turn on the back light in certain situations . (except sunlight of course) so Amoled wasn't far fetched and the vibrant colors and interactive experience with the Amoled kills the MIP any day. both versions are great to have in your collection. also corning gorilla glass in Amoled makes the colors pop even more then sapphire glass. like i always say "Garmin is King in anything they do watch related"

[@deanhelmeci5003]

I’ve already got the FENIX8 but I just ordered the Enduro three today. I really like the look of the MIP display even though I have been using the EPIX and EPIX pro for the last few years.

[@nigelaston8200]

are you made of money!

[@deanhelmeci5003]

@@nigelaston8200hahaha not quite. Just been blessed with a decent job and smart financial decision, well other than my watch buying addiction hahaha

[@benoitmenigoz1166]

Will stay with my 7X solar until next year, when prices will drop a bit or if I recycle my old watch in my family, I will consider the Enduro3!

[@Jakubcaso]

But Enduro 3 is only bigist size 51 mm - i think is rly big, you must have big hand.

[@benoitmenigoz1166]

@@Jakubcaso not realy big hand, was affraid of that 2 years ago when I purchased the F7X (the only size was 51mm with the LED light) and came from apple watch 7 / and Suunto 9. Many years ago with my old Suunto Ambit 3, I remebered I the big size wasnt a problem, and now I assume the big watch and it's like a distinctive sign of outdoor man that I am. (sorry if the syntax is bad, I'm not english)

[@LeonidasontheTrail]

Once the price is right on the Enduro 3 I will swap to that from my 6X pro. For my use, battery life is king especially in the FKT realm. The less I have to worry about charging a battery the better.

[@PawelUram]

I haven't seen anyone mentioning AMOLED Screen Burn-In. All OLED and AMOLED displays are prone to this issues and it's rather matter of time when it happens to your screen, rather than if it happens. It's just the way the technology works. Because watches display static image all the time, they are the most vulenrable type of OLED devices. Companies use different tricks to prevent burn-in but I sooner or later it happens to every watch. So if you're planning to keep you watch longer than 1-2 years - keep that in mind. I'm really excited to buy Fenix 8 AMOLED, but the burn-in issue is the only think restraining me from it. If you spend 1000-1200$, you don't want your screen to have some flaws after 1-2 years of usage... Think twice before making your choice.

[@dandronemoan4041]

I have burn-in after 2 years on my Fenix 7

[@lhzsdgsfbvv]

My old Venu 1 still runs in my Family. It's ~5 years old but doesn't have the issue. If you read about this topic on the Garmin forums, a watch is often replaced.

Venu 3 and no burn in - but I also don't like the always on feature so I guess that's no problem here

[@NickW90]

I had an apple watch ultra for over two years with always on display on every day with no burn in. Quit worrying and buy the watch. If you have issues garmin is awesome to deal with and would probably send u a watch with no charge anyways

[@robhunt8378]

I don't think it's such a big deal in practice. The mitigations in place to stop it from happening are annoying though (the auto-dimming, no white backgrounds...). Accelerated battery aging is even less frequently mentioned and it's very real, especially with AOD on. Garmin won't mind if now all these fancy Amoled watches have to be replaced at a faster rate ;)

[@fuchsy44]

Great vid! Thank you. Just a note, at 15:13 you said hours for the Fenix8 Solar Battery Saver....58 hours, 107 hours...but they're days. Not sure if you annotate the video to correct or not but thought I'd mention it. Keep up the great work!

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Yep, good catch... I mixed up my words!

[@sarjannarwan6896]

Enduro 1 has been so great for me I feel like I don't need a replacement. If I lose less than half battery after a 26 hour ultra with constant screen usage and using the flash light a couple times the boost in battery to Enduro 2 doesn't matter as much for me. Although the clearer screen might be nicer. Also Garmin is really great with product support. After a couple years the start/stop button was jammed and I tried to fix it. I mentioned it to them and they instantly gave me a return / replacement and I've got a new Enduro 1. Garmin is just a brand I trust from their actions and it does everything I need.

[@NeouItier]

I've ordered the Fenix8 titanium beacause i love saphir screen and i do surf and windsurf so the waterproof resistance is apreciated. 😉

[@arkeez1181]

Enduro 3 is absolutely waterproof resistant tho? Correct me if I’m wrong

[@KissingTrails1]

​@@arkeez1181you are right, Up to 100m should Work for the Most I think

[@NeouItier]

@@arkeez1181 No that's correct.

[@deletefalseculture]

I am convinced the “sensor guard” is to give it an Apple Watch Ultra look with its action button. Also there is no advantage other than battery and bezel width between the 47mm and 51mm variants.

[@nathanhutton6766]

Really good video with some really good information. I’m currently using the Garmin Fenix 7X pro which I’ll definitely be hanging on to but I’ll also be adding the Enduro 3 after watching this video. Thanks

[@sangelin9]

I have a 7x solar sapphire and an mk3 (for diving). So I have the direct comparison between mip and amoled. The amoled is cool but I agree with the guy who said it is distracting. I don’t need to watch videos or pictures on my wrist. The only real advantage is when viewing maps but mip is good enough for me. The brighter the conditions, the more awesome the contrast on the mip. And you can literally go on vacation for a week or two and leave the charger at home. The solar on the 7x however is a joke. I also had an instinct 2 which actually charged when left in the sun. The 7x only pretends to, though it’s cool to have the lux meter widget. So with all this, if the enduro 3 actually has a functioning solar, it would be my choice. But I’ll wait so see real life reports on the solar.

[@batusun717]

yes, 7x solar just pretends to solar itself...

[@lognload]

Had my fenix 6 pro solar for over 4 years now, then got an Apple Watch Ultra for a year and switched back to my fenix 6 in the last 6 months. Might upgrade to the Enduro 3 if there’s a decent Black Friday sale.

[@claudiobarreira9115]

I have a one watch! A Garmin FR235! I'm happy! Just needed navigation and batrery for the ultras!!! That's way too much money! But like the Enduro!

[@lukasdvorok6456]

Alternative is also to get EPIX PRO series watch for almost 1/2 price. :)

[@eriktred]

Which is still fantastic and still my favorite sports watch I've ever owned. (Epix pro gen2)

[@noisetin]

Epix Pro g2 you meant, yes, that is the value king now.

[@igorilla5769]

​@@noisetin waiting for the price to drop even more, but the Epix Pro 2 really seems to be the best atm

[@MVK_GS]

​@@eriktredsame

[@adamkreuz9068]

Yea if this is the way things are going at Garmin then I'll hold on to my Epix Pro for the next 10 years at least

[@skymalotte]

Another awesome video!! Thanks for the info man! Leaning towards the enduro I think!

[@Shawn-ky2tw]

The weight difference of the Enduro adds additional 10km to my runs..My one much stronger arm will start looking equal in strength to my other, thanks to the Enduro..

[@Stockfish1511]

I have epix gen 2 and tactix 7. Ill wait for Tactix 8. Hopefully there is one on the way. Tactix series are amazing in looks

[@boblatkey7160]

My employer just dumps free money in my health savings account and my doctor said I should get a heart rate monitor. So boom! My Fenix 8 is free! 😂💪😂

[@antoninoamico544]

Fenix 8 built like a tank for sure my son threw it downstairs hit the tile floor and not a ding or scratch at all! And sapphire is perfect 👍🏼

[@arilaine6113]

Amoled is very good looking, true, but the clock shows numbers, amoled is not necessary for that. Also battery with MIP is superior, so for me MIP is the best. Also, I want to use the clock, it's not an accessory for me. MIP has very good quality and I like solar option even it is not a total game changer but it's a nice addition. I don't dive and I have a phone with me all the time (imho too much).

[@enmodo]

Thanks some guy on the Internet. I think my next Garmin may be a micro-led one but I'll wait for at least one iteration for them to get all the kinks out. Until then my trusty low cost 255 MIP watch is good enough for me. I like the plastic watch back - they have the fewest issues with allergies although I'm guessing titanium would be pretty inert too? And the MIP display is still my favorite - I'd recommend people use a watch face that's black on white during day and switches to white on black only at night, black on white is way more visible in bright sun. Since I always have my phone with me somewhere (even when running I wear a vest to put the phone in) all the other battery consuming features of the higher priced Garmins are wasted on me. If money were no object then maybe - although seriously, those bigger sizes are huge and phat!

[@Gomrath]

Agreed, I have considered going from my 255 Music which I love and have settled on the Enduro 3. Now, do I wait to see if an Enduro 4 comes out though? *sigh* Great video buddy.

[@mattiamele8808]

Amazing video as always but.. I really don’t understand the majority of the comment that I read her… Every comment is about the price! Dude, a watch is more than this! No one force you to upgrade your epix pro or fenix 7pro or other Garmin watch but the technology keep forward. I bought the fenix 8 47 amoled and it is crazy! The amoled display is insane. You must trust me! The graphics have been modernized in the menu too. But it is only about your own preferences!! Not only about price. Otherwise no one would buy a rolex anymore!!

[@kevinbouy]

It's completely unfair to compare Garmin with Rolex. People buy Rolexes with the expectation of luxury, status that comes with it, that's not the point of Garmin, dude. Garmin is supposed to be a tool. Is it cutting edge? Yes, but it's very hard to justify the price increase with the few new features it has. Also, you bet that the price will only go up with each model, so consumers are well within reasons to complain.

[@mattiamele8808]

@@kevinbouy and doesn't everything work like that nowadays? Consumers complain about Amazfit too. Everything increase its price. the same thing can be said about cell phones, cars, etc.. Nobody forces you to buy the latest model.. if you aren’t agree with the price get an Amazfit! Best value for money!!

[@Star14trek]

I have Enduro 2 and cant see why a E3 or F8 will improve my life 😁

[@Joey92]

Agree, I’ll wait another twelve months and see what releases down the road.

[@opusmax8171]

Sounds broke !

[@RayHikes]

Both way too expensive IMO. Never thought any company would make Apple look like a good value, $1100 for the Fenix solar is just insane.

[@bb4prelude73]

Debating on getting an Apple Watch Ultra 3 . Since I already have a Garmin 7 pro .

[@camonly849]

Ya but apple doesn't even come close. You have to charge it everyday. What kind of fitness watch is that.

[@bb4prelude73]

@@camonly849 I’m saying I’ll still keep my Garmin but if I wanted a watch that’s more of smart watch . I’ll get a Apple Watch because it’s actually cheaper

[@RayHikes]

@@camonly849 More like every other day on the Ultra, and with how many more features it has, makes sense the battery would be lower. The solar with the MIP display still has some value (and I'd happily pay the same price as an AW Ultra for it), but over 1k is insane. And when you look at the amoled versions of the Garmin, it isn't even remotely worth it.

[@josh3326]

@@camonly849I charge my AW Ultra every 3 days if I have to. It’s not that bad at all.

[@DreiK96]

I've been waiting for Fenix 8 all these times and I wasn't aware they're now released. I'm gonna give me a 47mm Fenix 8 Solar.

[@jonasenerstam3032]

After watching this video i ordered the fenix 8 47mm amoled saphire. Im uppgrading ftom the vivoactive 5. 😊

[@TRDGE]

These are awesome especially for training... thanks for showcasing.. unfortunately for us Police Academy Cadets... smartwatches aren't allowed for testing and cheating purposes. It depends on what academy you go to but just a heads up to those getting this, check your campus regulations.

[@Raym_]

There's an adventure race mode that may be helpful for not cheating: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXPbkGlprJZ2erM

[@josejr.8671]

legend of watch reviews as well. the few the proud. 🎉🎉

[@SciFiScavenger]

Great comparison video.i have a 6X but need to upgrade. I was tempted by the 51mm 8 solar but battery life is the killer app for me (i have a couple of multi-day events coming up) so that, along with the lower price tag, plus i dont need the bells and whistles that come with the 8, i am increasingly leaning Enduro 3. I'll wait to see if i can grab a bargain in the black friday consumerist frenzy.

[@KwyjiboVanDeKamp]

As I absolutely love my old Forerunner 955 Solar I'd definitely pick the Enduro 3. The Fenix 8 is overpri... I mean overkill. 😅

[@raltayer]

The plastic back on the Enduro is probably to improve the GPS reception - I would go plastic over metal for this kind of watch. Function over form... any day for this kind of watch

[@MassiRPM]

Bull shit

[@motorola6502]

MIP vs Amoled and big plus for battery in size 51 - take into account that frequent and rapid discharge destroys the battery. And dont forget about the fact that you probably need sometime started activity with gps and other measurement. About the map - I prefer mobile display for map study.

[@DonJulio4649]

Waiting on my fenix 8 solar 51mm to ship out.

[@prettyneatperformance]

I have a vivoactive 4 and cannot wait to grab an Enduro 3.

[@robertharvey3469]

I think if amoled display with solar was an option, then I’d chose that. After 5 years of ownership of the 945, my battery life has reduced by 50% (i.e., from needing to charge every 12-14 days in watch mode to now needing to charge every 5-7 days). I love the idea of being able to go away for a couple of weeks and not having to worry about charging. I am leaning towards the Enduro, however, I really like the added features plus amoled display of the Fenix 8

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Garmin explained to me that AMOLED + Solar wasn't possible due to how much power the AMOLED display draws and the underlying voltage and electronics. So not now, but I wonder if we'll see that down the road?

[@johntaylor5408]

If I’m gonna spend that sort of money on a watch I’m gonna wear it 24/7 so it’s got to be aesthetically pleasing. For that alone it would have to be the Fenix 8. I’m considering changing from AWU but will wait until the comparison reviews come out. The AWU with the Workoutdoors app is excellent for runners as the amount of screens and metrics you can have is insane. But I’m now considering a more conventional looking watch.

[@KissingTrails1]

The Enduro 3 would be mine. But as I have a Enduro 2, I will not upgrade. I also prefer a metal back, just because of the premium feel ;)

[@Joey92]

Same!

[@willemhaifetz-chen1588]

Enduro 2 for the win

[@ericknowles6257]

Thanks, just bought the Enduro 3 through your link. Appreciate your thoughts!

[@collinmorris]

Just got a Fenix 7x sapphire solar for $650 brand new. 😊

[@phehibs]

I got epix pro 47mm for 600ish English. Upgraded leather band version too. Way better deal than both these watches.

[@saikrishnagangavalli8477]

Epix 2 sapphire got $350

[@phehibs]

@@saikrishnagangavalli8477 pro version so much better IMO.

[@Canyons_2_hollers]

@@saikrishnagangavalli8477 Where from ?

[@mauri1310]

No wait, what about mips vs amoled screen.. in navigation and map mode? Amoled higher definition show much more detail without needing to extra zoom in it

[@JohnnyGification]

Rambo or Arnold would pick the Enduro 3 every day of the week. I know quite a few of these fellas out there. Scary dudes.

[@larsstougaard7097]

Mickey Rourke would go Fenix 8

[@NildoScoop]

I'm not upgrading from my 7x pro sapphire solar.

[@SteveShankles]

I still like the Fenix 8, love amoled display, easier for my eye's to see it outside and inside,but because I'm outside so much, Fenix 8 bro

[@HeyElliott]

Thanks for this comparison! I am still one of the MIP lovers even though the AMOLED looks very pretty. I am waiting for reviews of the Solar Fenix 8 to come out before I make any decision. Also - I spy a 45mm Pixel Watch 3 in this video! :D

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Stay tuned, I have a LOT of use with the Pixel Watch... It's coming soon!

[@kruku89]

​@@ChaseTheSummit I'm waiting for Fenix 8 Solar. It be probably my next watch. Switching from Apple Watch 5

[@slowmanual]

​@@ChaseTheSummit Definitely tuned in for this. It sounds like the HR accuracy and run analytics of the PW3 might be enough to lure me away from my 7s - despite the fact that I much prefer MIP and battery life - just to get the added connectivity and smart features that I feal like Garmin missed the mark on with the 8.

[@davidbraswell1481]

too similar to the Garmin Epix pro 51 mm, not enough of an upgrade for me to run out and buy it........I on the other hand, I am waiting on Apples release!! Can't wait to see what they do! I hope it's mind-boggling!!!

[@ChaseTheSummit]

If Apple does something with their battery life (even at the sacrifice of features) I'll be listening!

[@HugoParedes]

Without offline maps and better battery life, it’s a no go for me. Another thing I think it’s underrated is the data and health features from Garmin. With Apple, you need to get 3rd party apps, often with a subscription

[@davidbraswell1481]

@@HugoParedes battery life doesn’t bother me if your a Garmin guy or an Apple guy good luck with it, I still wear both on opposite sides AWU on the left and Garmin Epix Pro gen 2 51mm on the right and I still love my AWU a bunch more. I do not have to drag my phone everywhere I go on my runs camping hiking and with my Garmin I have to take it everywhere to get any kind of messages off line maps are cool but if I can’t get an important message or call it all goes out the window. Next battery life, I have my watch set up to run at night with the strobe flashing so I do not get killed or hit by a vehicle. This allows me 4 days of battery on my Epix Pro I guess because of the 2 hours of strobe but anyways that’s just about 1 day longer than my AWU but as I have said before battery doesn’t make a difference in my mind because mine go on the charger daily so no worries there ever. If we go camping hunting or back packing we always carry battery banks so no worries there either, it’s nice not to have to charge daily but it’s a muscle memory type thing for me …. I prolly will never buy another Garmin watch again unless there is a dramatic mind boggling upgrade, which I don’t see coming this speaker addition to me is not going to get it not even if they add cellular the Apple Watch is just too easy and a no brainer for daily life and exercise

[@Bodzio1982]

The same here. Waiting for Apple to release something fresh but if they don’t then probably I will get enduro 3.

[@LimitlessHorizonVRSimrigs]

Mate, im new to your channel and just subscribed. Ive got my own channel that has absolutely nothing to do with yours 😅 however your content is top notch and i just had to subscribe and comment. I know how much times goes into this and what it means to make content and be acknowledged. Keep it up mate. Im looking into my first smart watch, and your channel has been brilliant to help my decision-making. 😁 thank you.

[@davidmaskew]

I didn't want to pay the extra for the Fenix 8 which i probably would have got in the medium size with solar MIP so i got the Enduro 3. I would say my wrists are quite small and at first the Enduro 3 looked a bit big but its so light and comfortable to wear I soon got used to it and now i don't mind it at all. I dont care about the plastic body of the Enduro 3, I've had a 735xt for like 7 years and it's still going strong and as I always use a screen protector it's pretty much as new other than a different strap. I don't like talking to my watch, I have a pixel 2 watch and never liked using it for calls etc.

[@karelvdd]

I currently have 2.5 year old Fenix 7X Sapphire Solar. It's not my only watch, so I didn't wear it that much yet. I am still good, but this Fenix 8 Pro sounds interesting. I love the readability of the MIPS screen in daylight, but I must admit that much attractive looking watch faces don't come out very well on this screen. With a MIPS screen you have to stick to simple looking watch faces. The Fenix 7X SS is still more than I can ever need, but the specs given in this video might be very interesting imho. I do however hope the Fenix 8 Pro is still a year away from it's release, so I can say I at least say I kept my Fenix 7 for 3.5 years (which is still not long imo).

[@darrengough4400]

Both amazing watches and coming from a very old Apple Watch, either was going to be a massive upgrade for me. In the end I bought the Fenix 8 DLC Black titanium. I don’t care about the speaker or microphone but 51mm is too big for me and I prefer an AMOLED screen.

[@rafehsaleh]

I think the real comparison would be Enduro 3 vs Fenix 8 Solar

[@leocmen]

The thumbnail of your video shows the MIPS display we would love to see... The reality is drastically different

[@ChaseTheSummit]

@@leocmen they look good in the right lighting.

[@leocmen]

@@ChaseTheSummit I'm very frustrated with Saphire Solar 7x ... I had a 6x Pro that was just a charm, I regret the upgrade towards 7x and I don't want to assume risk with MIPs anymore

[@gayletillotson2970]

The Fenix 8 does it have dive profiles could you go into a little bit more detail about the dive capabilities of the watch

[@aexetanius]

$1,199 Fenix 8 Sapphire Solar: Titanium bezel and titanium back $899 Enduro 3: Reduced titanium bezel (to accommodate a larger solar ring) but with a plastic back! 😭

[@anthonyjmunoz]

Great vid. Thanks!

[@josejr.8671]

awesome review thank you sir .

[@Geo-Tactix]

Amazing devices. I would buy them both😃. But I am waiting a bit , hope not too long , for the Tactix 8 💪

[@rosohatica3016]

Hi, good comparison but noone raises a question of waterproofing of microphone and speakers. Sure they made buttons waterproof on Fenix 8, but arent mic and speakers a weak link for waterproofing now comparing to Enduro 3?

[@Justyburger]

I like MIP because I want the display to always be on and I like the solar option too, so my choice is narrowed down to those versions of the 51" Fenix and the Enduro. I'm not a diver, but I do a lot of ocean swimming. Currently using an Instinct 2 solar. If I did buy an Amoled, it would be the Tactix, because I really like the red shift mode and there is also a green tactical display mode. I like the bezel of the tactix too. I'm assuming a Tactix 8 will be arriving soon and I think I am going to wait for that.

[@thiegoac]

I decided to get the enduro 3 for all my sports activities. For regular days I’ll keep my Apple Watch Ultra , to make calls , payments, messages…

[@micheleaubriet]

Merci beaucoup ! je préfère l’enduro en 43mm 😢 qui n’existe pas… alors je ne sais pas… je réfléchis encore !

[@VladimirKlykov]

Great video, but F8 Solar is ultimate option for me personally))

[@markcameron3]

If I wanted a fancy display and long battery I'd probably go with Suunto race right now, only thing missing with that is NFC payments

[@jasonree]

Sticking with my Fenix 7X especially at the price and don’t need new features If money was no object Fenix 8 all the way.

[@60beats44]

Thank you for this and all of your other informative videos. Hope you don’t mind me commenting on style. I would prefer if you did not ‘overlay' the end and beginning of some sentences, omitting natural breathing pauses. You also seem to shout your statements which is somewhat grating especially when listening through headphones. Hope you don’t mind this feedback.

[@szucszoltan4819]

Epix pro 47mm here. No mind to replace it at least for 2-3 more years.

[@hubert7734]

I have 6 months of experience with the Enduro 2 and earlier 7-8 months with the Forerunner 255. I will say this - there is no point in buying the "top" Garmin models. You will throw away your money. While I was quite happy with the budget (it cost about 280 Euro, so was not for free) Forerunner 255, the Enduro 2 turned out to be full of errors. Maybe I am now using the watch with greater awareness and I did not notice it in the Forerunner, or maybe the software of the top models is crap. I doubt that the software of the Enduro, Fenix or Epix is different from each other so think twice when you want to spend 800-1000 Euro. Examples of errors that I reported to support within half a year: 1. The watch did not allow me to calibrate a run on the treadmill (the difference between the watch and the treadmill was 1 km), even though the run was several times longer than required in the watch's instructions (I run over 10km). I do not have the option of manual calibration. As a result, the watch stupidly thinks that I am now in great shape. Because of this, I cannot use the watch on the treadmill if I want to use training suggestions or analyze its statistics. 2. The watch deleted my planned running races in the calendar during the update and later after manually restarting the watch. 3. The watch suggested training on the day I had a race set in the watch. It also suggested incorrect trainings before the race. 4. The watch does not update the set competition goal (race finish time), despite the change in Garmin Connect. So training suggestions can be inaccurate. I have omitted simple errors in screen graphics or naming (e.g. translation errors). I mainly use the running and treadmill activity and occasionally 2-3 others, including walking and strength training. Garmin focuses on flooding the market with new models without caring about quality. We are treated as either stupid users or beta testers.

[@matoatlantis]

I'm using Enduro 2 for almost two years now. I love it - they last me almost a month with the activities I do. When it comes to sports I had few issues in a pool when garmin didn't detect turns properly (with proper pool length set). Not a big problem but certainly irritating. This was true specially when I was doing bigger lengths (4km) as I was not doing proper flip turns (I can't do them effectively yet). The only issue I had happened very recently - starting with the firmware (fw) 16.xx battery life got worse, almost killing it with the version 18.xx. I was angry, the last thing I wanted to do on my watch was keeping an eye on these things. But I had to do just that -- I had to downgrade the fw to 15.77 and lock it. Now the battery life is back to normal.

[@hubert7734]

@@matoatlantis with my 5-7 activities a week (3-5 runs with GPS) I can use the watch for at least 14 days. Maybe even 18-21 days (I will check it soon as I have 33% battery now). But wrong training suggestions, planned runs disappearing from the watch or yesterday problem with calibration after treadmill run are not what I expect from the watch for 800 Euros.

[@matoatlantis]

@@hubert7734 I'm too lazy to check how often I use them monthly but according to strava I did 180hrs worth of activities in 2024, 196hrs in 2023. All bells and whistles on, always with GPS except for swimming. I bought enduro 2 because I do night hikes alone (~1km vertical climb). I just wanted to have something I could use in case of a bad weather (fog, deep snow, night) and not be worrying about its battery life. I was surprised how practical the light on this watch was, did save me few times (not only during sport activities). But I don't use garmin's trainer, have 0 experience there. I agree lately garmin's SW is BS. And these training suggestions (and other bugs) could be solved with a proper SW update. As I mentioned - newer the FW the worse it gets.

[@AlexTushinsky]

I'm still holding out for the Garmin Whoop band! As for the two watches - I loved my Enduro 1, but then was spoiled by the Apple Watch display, and found the Enduro 2 too bland / dark. I did try the Epix Pro with AMOLED display, but couldn't deal with the lack of smartphone features I got used to with Apple Watch. At the end of the day, it's Apple Watch but would be so nice to get a Whoop like band from Garmin.

[@channul4887]

I'd love a band, infinite battery life and 0 cringe when wearing a real watch alongside it. HR strap capable of doing metrics would be even better.

[@lewishailey1841]

or ...hot take, if you don't want to spend "lots" of money on a fenix 8 or Enduro 3. The fenix 7 x solar or pro solar and Enduro 2 are fantastic options still. I got a 7x solar 51 mm brand new on amazon for 440. Ebay there will be tons of the last gen watches going for significantly less.

[@namecollision]

I have an original Venu. The battery needs charging twice a day and the Amoled screen is fading quickly. I like the amoled. My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so a bright display is a big benefit. I'm leaning towards the 51mm Fenix Saphire/Ti. I tend to keep my gear till it dies, so the cost difference isn't a huge deal over the long term. It is damb pricey though. My one concern is that since the battery only needs to be charged occasionally, it will likely last a lot longer. That make the amoled display the weak point. Then again, maybe amoled longevity has improved since my venu was made.