Garmin Fenix E vs Fenix 8 (Watch Before You Buy!)

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[@teeramate]

I'd buy 965 over Fenix E . No reason to pay that much $$$ for none sapphire fenix.

[@jaimecarvajal5574]

Forerunner is at $499 right now so is by far the best at that price

[@jakejoyride]

buy 955 it has better display

[@simonpollock2799]

came here to say basically the same thing. the only thing i’d change about my 955 is adding sapphire. guerilla glass is real soft!

[@KarelOmacka-kl9iu]

Right

[@therangersinger]

​@@jakejoyrideThe 965 display is far superior to the 955.

[@MrFubber]

If you buy the E you will always have buyer's remorse that you didn't get the 8, especially when Amazon inevitably reduce the price once the initial hype dies down a little.

[@GoandLove]

No flashlight = instantly not worth it 😤 That really is the best feature and I use it every day

[@_J.F_]

I really like the idea of an E (essential) version that is cheaper than the flagship but also without the bells and whistles that a lot of us don't need (or want) anyway. The real question as I see it is how you define "essentials" and to me that should, at $800, include sapphire glass and a torch.

[@sarcasticpanda84]

Yeah, kinda feels like Garmin was worried about the E cannibalizing sales of the Fenix 8. Ok, fine. But then it seems kinda like a pointless device because I can spend the same amount of money (or similar) for either an older Fenix 7 Pro or a watch not in the Fenix lineup. That LED flashlight is ridiculously useful.

[@gambino883]

​@@sarcasticpanda84can't imagine spending more than a phone on a watch. How are these watches costing so much. There is more hardware and software on a phone than a watch.

[@sarcasticpanda84]

@@gambino883 The biggest thing for me is battery life. I had an Apple Watch Ultra, that thing would give me two days MAYBE. And I said, if I'm gonna be paying nearly $1,000 for a watch, I don't want to be tied to my charger. So, I bought Fenix 7 solar and I get a solid two weeks of battery life, has all the tracking and health features I could ask for and was a similar price. I'm grateful to be in a spot where I can afford something like this, but the fact that smartwatch manufacturers aren't giving us this kind of battery life is an issue.

[@_J.F_]

@@sarcasticpanda84 ...or maybe spend a bit more and get the Enduro 3.

[@_J.F_]

@@gambino883 A watch is a fair bit smaller so I guess that would make it more costly to produce?

[@Pipppetto]

Kudos for your exaustive reviews. Unbiased (which is not so granted among KZbin reviewers), very detailed and straight to the point. A breeze to go shopping, for any kind of customer. Unfortunately, I belong to the ever growing niche of budget conscious users who wish they can afford premium products but actually can't... For this reason I'm seriously considering a Suunto Race S as a viable option.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Race S is a great watch!

[@dmitrynikolaev355]

With such price policy my next Garmin will be Coros))

[@Running-j5v]

very good presentation both seem to be very good you give a good and detailed presentation well done 👍👍👍👍👍

[@vosch8229]

Another point of view: I liked that Garmin ported some features to older watches. I feel that my F7 Pro is not that outdated and should receive some of the new features. But as they have to separate the F7/Epix2 (non pro) from the E, probably my Pro watch is more or less restricted. Better hardware, worse software. Thanks Garmin.

[@dw3gt]

I also have the F7 Pro and whether the software is better or worse is subjective. It's just different. The dynamic routing is interesting but I don't need that, and certainly wouldn't buy a whole new watch for it. I also just got a software update today. I'm sure it was mostly small fixes to existing features, but I'm perfectly happy with that.

[@vosch8229]

@@dw3gt In general, you"re right. But the good feeling of "I bought a top notch watch and will get new features for a while" is somehow gone.

[@oroszgyozo]

I was a Garmin fan, currently having a 7X Pro Solar Titanium. If it will not be updated to the new software, probably this will be my last Garmin watch. Not because I need the new functions, but it’s not fair.

[@booknapat]

I agree with you, Just step up to buy Fenix 8 or rather buy Epix gen 2 if you have limited budget.

[@mortenvinther8940]

For me there is significant difference between elevate 4 and 5 sensor so i would never go for E.

[@antoniskourris5257]

47mm Fenix 8 AMOLED it's perfect size for everyday!

[@tudorpalela4729]

My 6x pro just received a sofware update. :)

[@kristof9497]

Thank you. Will keep my 7S pro solar.

[@robinsimonoceanskies9646]

Thanks for this review :) I think you're the KZbinr who has the most reviews and comparaison since the release of Garmin Fenix 8 - Enduro 3 and Fenix E :D To wrap up that great video series, I had a last video suggestion. If you feel like it, could you compare an Enduro 3 with a Fenix 8 and a Fenix E? Which one is targeted for whom? In which situation would you take one of the 3? It could be helpful for lots of people out there, I think since Garmin's branching out might not always be clear 😉 No pressure of course 😌 Big up from Brussels 🇧🇪

[@SteveShankles]

Great video Dave,still like that Fenix 8,for a cheaper option, Amazfit T Rex 3 is great watch for exercises like weight lifting and bike training 💪🏽

[@cm99cox]

I picked up an Epix Gen 2 Standard on Cabela's for 449 about a month ago, Now that is 599 on their website but super glad I could basically pick up a Fenix E for 449. I don't find this watch necessary for them to make and make the lineup more confusing

[@OneTouch1980]

The best things about new Garmin watches is the previous watch is on sale. The 955 is a great deal now on some sites.

[@Salmo796]

No smartwatch shoud cost over 600-650 in my opinion...

[@vadimilchuk5029]

Bingo.

[@collinmorris]

Fenix 7x sapphire solar can be found for 650 right now!

[@vadimilchuk5029]

@@collinmorris new or used?

[@makovzhuh]

​@@vadimilchuk5029 New

[@collinmorris]

@@vadimilchuk5029 new!

[@carloscssr]

My epix pro gen 2 just downloaded the new software 18.14 and it says it has the garmin share thing.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Nice!

[@ActiveIdeas]

Smashed it as always Dave! Hard to shallow this one, I really hope Garmin bend and actually update the "older" Epix range with the new software 😬❤

[@constantinvijoli]

epix pro gen 2, 51mm is the same price or cheaper than fenix E, so fenix E has no point

[@MrCabimero]

I have the Fenix 7 sapphire. Wish I had all those colors on the display.

[@tentpitchr]

I can't justify paying that much when there are so many more affordable options that do what I want. But I think if money was not a concern, I would get the 8

[@NickBEADG]

I'd love a side by side on my brand new Epix Pro 51mm compared to the 51mm Fenix 8. Kinda pisses me off if that's true we won't get the new software.

[@highseastrader4190]

You won't get the new software.

[@maksicjovan]

Actually Epix 2 has garmin share option. just is set in quick menu options :)

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Recently added!

[@rcuadro]

The only time I see myself using the F8 microphone for anything would be during a hike and I happen to have my phone inside my backpack and I don’t feel like taking it out.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

It has a lot of uses that you don’t realize until you have it. For example starting an activity that you don’t often use so it’s buried in the menus. Like if I randomly decide to play golf or pickleball (doesn’t happen often) I can simply say “start a golf activity” and the watch does the rest. There’s a lot of other use cases as well once you get the hang of it!

[@Panagiotis-Skordilis]

@@ChaseTheSummit Hey Dave. mic on F8 is really a joke beside some sos usage or hike as friend above mention. If they put LTE is another story. I can understand the dive feature and is usefull for recreational divers but the mic is a gimmick especially in that outdated hardware.

[@aclement1854]

Nice vid ! Fun fact, Garmin mentioned at UTMB revealing those watches, they will not update EPIX gen2 and pro to new software of Fenix 8 because of hardware. Now the Fenix E is showing us that they are recycling an Epix gen2 hardware into a Fenix E with some Fenix 8 software.... :) Not sure they can really convince me here...

[@shyrahman4506]

I just brought a Epix Pro 51 mm shall I just wait until they bring out another top range watch then

[@applerunner1184]

Nice comparison. Thanks for the info. Wish it was more simple! I don’t care about the flashlight and the smart features (they seem slow and clunky), but I would want multi-band and the latest HR sensor and the new software.

[@alepioveable]

If, and thats a big if, they launch the Tactix 8 MIP before black friday, I might consider get it. If not, will stay with my fenix 7 pro

[@davidvitez9357]

On epix pro is still the best watch face with possibility use 12 data fields .

[@emilrux]

I feel like knowing the differences Between Fenix 7, Epix gen 2, Epix gen 2 Pro, Fenix 8, Fenix E, Forrunner 955, Forerunner 965 shold amout to BA in Garminology.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

😂

[@Divyamshu-ij3uc]

Please do a comparison video on Garmin Fenix 8 solar and Garmin Enduro 3 solar.

[@Vasudevan-x8r]

Hi Dave, Nice review. I feel it is a incorrect assumption that the OHR is identical to that of Gen 2, Hardware wise it is same but what about the firmware? I believe Fenix E may have a improved HR accuracy compared to Gen 2, Your take please?

[@kopek_12]

I am a little bit disappointing of garmin because I have Epix Pro and that was and I believe it still is a very expensive watch. The watch is 1 year old and it will not update that is awful. If garmin wants more money just say give us $50 and we will update your watch. But this! I lost my trust in Garmin and next time maybe I will buy some less expensive Garmin or maybe another brand. And what I know more people are disappointed and I think Garmin made a very bad decision here. However this is very good video. I like you Chase keep going ❤.

[@mmh129]

Do you think Garmin is pulling a fast one with this model? It's basically releasing again the Epix base model with a new software and a slightly different hardware... That would be ok if it was considerably cheaper.. Anyway, nice video! Thanks

[@ChaseTheSummit]

They're not hiding the fact that it's a repackaged Epix G2 lol. So no, not a fast one. Is it an odd release? Yes.

[@deonsmit8887]

I think the Enduro is a better buy.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Enduro 3 is a great watch!

[@marcinstyle85]

200$ that is really small different and if you have 800$ for watch surely you able to spend extra 200$ for top model dont see a point to even consider that E model

[@ChaseTheSummit]

That's sort of my thought on it.

[@marcinstyle85]

@@ChaseTheSummit Yeah I just said overall nothing against you 👍 , you did a great job sir 🤩🫶

[@anthonyrampino7734]

Do you think it would be a better option to spend one hundred dollars more for the Enduro 3? And does the Enduro 3 have the weather over lays like the fenix ?

[@SanduMalina]

hello, I ask you before I buy, which is better and more professional, I want your opinion between fenix 8 and Apple ultra 2 black , which one should I buy?

[@vojtechhrazdil6560]

Ultra 3 does not exist.

[@Alistair_Spence]

Interesting video as usual although I will say that when I went to Amazon to price an Epix Gen 2 (47mm) the lowest price I saw was $750, so it's not that clear cut of a choice. If the Epix Gen 2 was in the $550-600 range then yes I agree, it would be a much more tempting option, Vs the Fenix E.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Make sure you’re looking up Epix Gen 2 and not Epix Pro. The latter is much more expensive as it is newer.

[@Alistair_Spence]

@@ChaseTheSummit Excellent point. I will double check, thanks.

[@NickBEADG]

I wish the CPU's were talked about more normally so Garmin can take the hint to upgrade them.

[@bernondprudenciostephencha3249]

Better the enduro 3

[@jakejoyride]

best Garmin watch

[@E.T_rode_bikes_As_well]

So fenix 8E is just rebranded Epix gen2

[@ChaseTheSummit]

There’s no 8… just E. And yes the guts are the same hardware as the Epix G2 just with a new bezel and software.

[@Natan9000]

I’m curious to the fenix 8 solar 🤓😁

[@Tecza]

No multiband and flashlight is a sad joke

[@ChaseTheSummit]

I was reaaaally hoping for the flashlight!

[@vosch8229]

I tested my F7 Pro without multiband, and GPS was surprisingly accurate. But how they could leave out the flashlight, I don't understand Garmin.

[@jakejoyride]

it's upselling marketing tactic - only reason this product exist

[@craigpilcher]

Tbh the forerunner 965 keeps on sounding better and better. Particularly due to the price

[@jakejoyride]

955 sound like heaven

[@SirNTB]

Yah….I got epix pro 47mm for $650 and I think it’s still a lot of money. At the same time it does feel like garmin is trying to push the limit of the extortion with Fenix 8 pricing. Anyone going for garmin now has a ton of cheaper options in their products line and I don’t think it’s necessary for them to hop on the hype train of new line. Also, no flashlight - no go for me 😅 I just got so used to it it’s unbelievable

[@mac23806]

It seems youre better off getting a epix pro with Sapphire glass and titanium and the flash light the the gen 4 heart rate monitor

[@dok47]

Cant believe you did not mention that biggest difference is that you get it in titanium and Saphire glass.. that is for me number 1 reason why to get this watch in first place. All other watches look like crap after 1 year and fenix looks like new after 10 years.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

I do mention that the Fenix E does not come in sapphire during the first couple of minutes.

[@sxhrgvs]

Good work Dave.

[@Daniel_0207]

Will you personally change your daily driver from the 965 to fenix 8?

[@philippesoupart]

I am a bit worried as Garmin start to remove features on their platform. Last feature, the objectives has just disappeared totally. Now if you want to fix you some objectives, you have to make it on a paper or on other platforms... What a pity. For sure, I will skip this release. I have some concerns with the quality of the new buttons and there is no useful new feature. Maybe the Garmin 9 :-)

[@kkleiveland]

Nice review! I think it’s missing the flashlight. That would have made it competitive. Also it looks like the watch is missing the Garmin logo and minutes marks they show in the pictures 🤔

[@ChaseTheSummit]

The tick marks for time are there but they're hard to see as they are under the glass and on the darker model I have are sort of a gray color. In my lighting hard to see, in direct sunlight they pop a bit more.

[@claudiobarreira9115]

To wrap it up... the best choice of watch from Garmin looking at all specs and price are the FR965 and Enduro 3... or am i wrong?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Depends on what you want / need. The Forerunner 965 is probably the best feature to price ratio especially during sales but it's not as ruggedly built and doesn't come with a sapphire option. If you engage in a lot of demanding activities that could be a non-starter. Enduro 3 is a great option as well but pretty expensive.

[@claudiobarreira9115]

@@ChaseTheSummit ultratrails and mountain bike! The Enduro should be more crash proof!🤣

[@FabiFuu]

No multiband GPS is a bummer... at 700 USD, you better have dual-band GPS, evven 200 USD amazfit or 300 USD Coros Pace has it

[@nrs8043]

The whole Fenix line this year is a massive let down. My next watch won’t be a Fenix

[@hal0odst754]

Hows the battery life? I hate charging often. Is like 2 weeks once for my instinct 2 solar.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

16 days with AOD off / 6-7 days with AOD on / 32-38 hours in GPS with default settings.

[@magdalenaabno908]

Not buying yet. Have Epix Pro Gen 2 and FR265… but recently there was an update to software and my Epix was drained overnight…. Wonder if you have seen some problems with your watches in the past day or so…

[@ChaseTheSummit]

That can happen after a software update for a couple of days but it’s usually temporary and normalizes soon after.

[@bjc1219]

Why would they use the v4 heart sensor?! Make it make sense! I don't understand this watch!

[@twolford01]

Does anyone have an opinion if all these watches work well? I had two Music 645 and they were horrible to the point Garmin sent me a Fénix 6 which has been excellent for a number of years now. The customer service is much better than many years ago when they did nothing but say “mail it to us with a $99 check and we’ll diagnose the problem”.

[@nunofernandes4440]

Hi Dave, the 47mm amoled version, do you have any realistic battery numbers? With my F6 Sapphire i manage from a full charge like 4hrs week of gps running + another 2 to 3 Mtb ride per week and still have battery left .. I don’t use Bluetooth nor email/calls on the Watch but I am curious if the battery can last that much. Thank you 4 your videos , regards from Malta, EU

[@ChaseTheSummit]

With the always on display on and going on a run daily between an 30 mins to over an hour I’m getting 5ish days. With AOD off probably double that.

[@nunofernandes4440]

Thank you ! Much appreciated!

[@22david22]

What? Fenix E is amoled too?

[@alekav_ph]

great work!

[@whiteran]

There are the bugs in the Fenix8.. Screen brightness in low light conditions makes my Felix 8 51 Amoled completely UNUSABLE!!! Also the watch lags even in the watch face menu.. it’s a horrible experience, never had these issues with my Fenix7X or my EPIXPRO 51!!

[@b4ds33d]

The Epix gen2 came out 1 year ago, not 2.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

It was launched on January 18, 2022 the Epix “Pro” came out in 2023… different watch.

[@MrCabimero]

Can you tell me the name of the watch face on the Fenix 8 ?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Comes pre installed.

[@lawhitey]

Coming from the Fenix 6 pro solar, I bought the standard gen 2 Epix (with silver bezel) a couple of weeks ago for £325 half price brand new in the UK from a well known high street shop. For that price I thought it was a bargain, but I haven't opened it yet as I'm still torn to take it back and bite the bullet and get the Fenix 8. I can't bring myself to spend £950 on a consumable item though that is going to have a lifespan of about 5 years at most, I've always bought my Garmin's at 1/2 years old models when they are heavily discounted. The Epix is putting me off now I've done a bit more searching and found it came out in Jan 2022 so the software feels old compared to the new Fenix. If it was a normal watch I wouldn't bat and eyelid at the price because these can last forever with servicing, these electronic timepieces don't come with the same facility. Probably wasted on me as I only do MTB and Hiking and a bit of gym work but I do love a good gadget.

[@stephanechamp]

Again... I'd like to know why Garmin can't push newest UI on the Epix Pro Gen 2 since it is in fact a newer and better watch than the Fenix E, that really does not make any sense.

[@Βασίλης-μ7σ]

Did you hear something about Fenix 8 Pro?

[@deriusbrown25]

These watches are coming out faster than cell phones the fenix 7 havent breathe that long

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Not really. Fenix 7 was released in January 2022. Phones come out on a yearly cadence. Garmin is on a 2-3 year cadence.

[@VeeraMani-pu8yp]

Any chances to give away in trex 3...??

[@Shawn-ky2tw]

I just got my fenix 8 51mm AMOLED and I already can't stand how small all the font is for the data on all watch faces! I'm 46yo, I can't see the text unless I put some crazy green colour.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

You can change the text scaling in the menus to be larger in the settings.

[@Shawn-ky2tw]

@@ChaseTheSummit On the watch face???? Nope

[@thedomesticsurvivalist]

There is one thing i notice in all the reviews and comparisons, that no one talks about. Consider these points before you choose which model/version to buy... Titanium is exotic, light and sounds awesome (You want it, you need it! Right?), but it is way softer and scratches much more easily than stainless steel!! Think, these are big watches anyway, they catch on things and scratch. Also the few grams saved buying titanium will barely be noticeable on a side-by-side, but going straight to SS, you would never know! It's also not like anyone can see, "Ooh that's a titanium", you have to tell them - so why bother? Likewise, Sapphire glass also sounds awesome and exotic (I must have it!). However, if you think it won't scratch, think again, it will and does. So, for any watch of this price range (especially something you are doing activities with), you will want to put a 2$ toughened glass screen protector from Amazon over the glass to protect it (just like your phone). These are extremely protective of the underlying screen, completely blend in and so not noticeable at all, easy and cheap to replace. So why bother forking out the added expense of Sapphire or titanium?! I have a basic Epix gen 2, SS and normal glass. I put a screen protector on from day one and have had to replace it twice due to damage from climbing etc, but the underlying screen remains as good as it was out of the box. My SS bezel has also picked up some scratches, but as it is silver and SS the damage is way less noticeable than a darkened Titanium bezel (Don't get me wrong Darkened Titanium, hooks me in as much as the next man. If money doesn't matter, then this argument is dead, but for most of us, money matters, at least to some extent:)) Get the watch for sure, they are beautiful and awesome, but save yourself a small fortune and get the Stainless Steel, normal glass - especially if you do anything in the mountains or near rock! Love your reviews Dave - don't listen to the haters!!

[@Panagiotis-Skordilis]

SS is significantly heavier than titanium. For the scratches i agree and people should wake up. They hear the word titanium and they think is something like wolverine nails material. In titanium also matters the coating.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Titanium is actually stronger and more scratch resistant than steel but it can show surface layer scratches due to the oxidation layer being damaged. On the upside raw titanium can be "buffed out" to remove scratches like this. Stainless steel cannot since it's got a surface finish most of the time. Both are great materials though sort of depends on your preference. I think the big advantage to Titanium watches is the Sapphire Lens. Screen protectors work fine but they can look a little janky, scratch easily since they're standard glass, and can reduce the clarity of the display.

[@Panagiotis-Skordilis]

@@ChaseTheSummit Titanium is stronger than stainless steel in terms of strength-to-weight ratio. SS 304 or 316 have higher tensile strength than titanium.

[@thedomesticsurvivalist]

@@ChaseTheSummit Hey Dave, nice discussion, I both agree and disagree. Titanium is a super lovely material and, like i said, money no object, i would pick it every time. However, while it is stronger than SS, it does have a lower Brinell rating (so less hard). I did run a quick check after reading your reply and the scratch resistance feedback seems to be mixed (although it should be directly relative to its Brinell rating). On the screen protectors, mine are toughened glass (whatever that actually means). If the standard screen is level with the bezel, I agree, adding one will look crap. But on the epix (not sure about the Fenix 8), the bezel is raised, so when you add the protector it runs flush with the bezel and blends perfectly. But, on a +1000$ activity watch, would you want to run the risk of not adding a protector, if it blends perfectly? As mentioned, I have replaced my protector twice after impacts and scratches that would have easily damaged a sapphire lens and the protection it gave was 100%. My point is simply that these are 'real-life, practical' considerations that no one talks about 👍

[@GotDamBoi]

i keep watching these vids but my FR 45 still works so i'm just day dreaming

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Ha! Keep that thing going as long as possible!

[@aparent100]

So I have a tactix 7 AMOLED that is only a year old with way better hardware than the Fenix E but Garmin is saying that the UI isn't compatible with the older watches. How does that make any sense!? 🤔

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Time will tell, but it seems like Garmin drew a line in the sand and is holding the new software for watches newer than Fenix 8 / Fenix E. This could change but it's what was explained to me. The Tactix 7 AMOLED is still an awesome watch though!

[@joecalarco2227]

How long do you think garmin will support epic gen 2?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

It will be supported for a long time. As mentioned my 2012 Fenix 1 still works with Garmin Connect. However I doubt we’ll see new features on the Epix… it will keep what it’s got and keep on trucking.

[@AlbertoMartinez-cu7ue]

$800 for this watch feels excessive. Maybe the real comparison in terms of features and capabilities with the Amazfit T Rex 3 is the Phenix E, $800 vs $279.

[@user-ir3yw8bs4i]

I don’t know why Dave got hate comments lately and Shane miller does not get any critique despite giving biased reviews on garmin and wahoo products. Good video!

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Shane makes great content but thank you for the kind words!

[@user-ir3yw8bs4i]

@@ChaseTheSummithe is alright , he just needs to take his blindfolds off when reviewing Garmin. He also hardly comments on the negative experiences of his audience who use Garmin products. Anyways I am subscribing you right away. You are more authentic and sympathetic.

[@cusebike5391]

@@user-ir3yw8bs4i I must get a different GPL feed than you. I don't recognize the one you get.

[@ted363636]

No MIP, no buy! AMOLED reviews like this one remind me of that game where you have to knock moles in the head before they disappear underground ;)

[@ChaseTheSummit]

There is an always on mode but I usually leave that off because the gesture raise-to-wake works so well and it preserves a lot of battery life.

[@ted363636]

@@ChaseTheSummit Sorry but using gesture is like going back 10 years in time. I basically ran away from AW to Garmin many years ago because their MIP display reminded me of a real watch and now Garmin is putting AMOLED everywhere. Well I've tried the Epix and went back to Fenix 7s solar sapphire. Hopefully they will be back with a smaller MIP version when 9 arrives.

[@Tha-King-Arthur]

@@ted363636 Amoled on this watch is pretty bad. In the evening when it gets dark and you make a gesture the screen goes of dim mode and only gives 50% brightness.. It's wayyyy too dark.. I can barely see the data on the watch in the dark.

[@radoslavstoev4550]

No one except someone who really has clue about sport watches would by the Fenix E.

[@deriusbrown25]

Man how many watches does Chase have lol

[@ChaseTheSummit]

All of em!

[@TheMpamMpam]

Why is noone else reviewing the amazfit t-rex 3 and make every imaginable video with the new garmin again and again?

[@Lucky-jt5bx]

I don’t think so that the Fenix E is it worth $800, better options go for Epix maybe less fancy software but better hardware for much less and will do exactly the same job.

[@Tha-King-Arthur]

Fenix 8 is also not worth 1000-1200€ but 300€..

[@MaxRothFitness]

fenix 8 is a no brainer between these 2

[@TulioMarin]

No ECG ?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Not on Fenix E since it has the Gen 4 sensor.

[@OptimusMonk01]

Hmm... fenix E for $800... fenix 8 for $1000... or T Rex 3 for $250. LOL

[@tadejdanev5030]

in EU add 20% more

[@ChaseTheSummit]

You've got it. The Fenix's have a lot of advantages but of course come with a crazy high price tag. The T-Rex is a great option if you don't need full blown mapping and don't read to deeply into the daily wellness info.

[@indiemichael]

That Bezel size is unacceptable in 2024., even for a "budget" model.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Garmin always has a bezel. I think it's because they share the same case with the Solar watches that require extra room around the display for the solar ring.

[@bag33k]

But why is there such a black ring around the display? Looks like solar but isn‘t? Looks totally awful, in my view…

[@kzahrte]

So basically, it's better and cheaper for now to just go find a Garmin Epix gen 2 with sapphire glass. What's with that bezel... it's huge! At least the Epix had some markers on there. Whoever is currently making product decisions at Garmin needs to be demoted.

[@kzahrte]

@@ChaseTheSummit that's cool... at least it's got some style 😎

[@ChaseTheSummit]

The time tick marks are there but they're hard to notice in my lighting.

[@kzahrte]

@ChaseTheSummit thanks for your replies and another great video. As someone who aspires to start a youtube channel, I learn a lot by watching your content, techniques, and style. I really like it when you get out there and show what these watches can do. Nice looking new merchandise by the way. Cheers.

[@Zhiloreznik]

I can get Epix gen 2 for half the price… why bother with E.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

For the software... it's really that simple. If you don't care the Epix G2 is the way to go.

[@zaraizara2794]

for over $1000 smartwatch, the animation is lag and not smooth. sad.

[@DimitriLaPenna]

Garmin makes me sick with their overcomplicated products offer... 😅🙄🙃

[@ChaseTheSummit]

It's super complicated. But it's also why my KZbin channel exists lol.

[@ericward2005]

Are these 51 or 47?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

47mm the Fenix E only comes in that size.

[@ericward2005]

@@ChaseTheSummit is your Fenix 8 47mm as well?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

@@ericward2005both are 47mm

[@MATIvmr]

I don’t know if I see it right but that black bezel around whole watch face on E is ugly as hell

[@ChaseTheSummit]

There are time tick marks in there but they're subtle on the black model I have. I think on the silver model they're more pronounced.

[@MATIvmr]

@@ChaseTheSummit that’s why I should wear glasses 🤣

[@paulonobre6429]

Not worth it, epix pro 47 for daily use is better

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Better or cheaper? 🤔

[@paulonobre6429]

@@ChaseTheSummit Probably both, but cheaper and more stylish with the white and silver saphire titanium bezel (current daily is a white FR955 wich I love)

[@basengelblik5199]

Fully don't agree with the starting image ... not watching it.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Huh?

[@nilesousa6720]

I love g

[@chinothedreamgiver1629]

💯💯💯❤️❤️

[@jakejoyride]

you misleading the public, hardware is not the same, you never compared chips on in this watches, so you don't know if there are some limitations in hardware for example drawing gradients may by to expensive for Epix, you also don't know what updates are coming to Epix you never saw Garmin updates roadmap

[@ChaseTheSummit]

I spoke with Garmin’s development team and they told me the new software is exclusive to Fenix 8 and newer. Also, at a hardware level the new Fenix E is the exact same as the Epix Gen 2 except for a new bezel and look. But it sounds like you know more than me so feel free to educate me. 👍