Garmin Xero C1 Pro Chronograph VS Magnetospeed VS Labradar

[@Bertimus90]

I just ordered the garmin, thanks for the great video. I’m also very happy to see a fellow Christian making videos on topics that interest me. I’m glad I found your page!

[@stevenveltrie1868]

For me it comes down to size. The Garmin is small, compact, simple,and will do everything I need.

[@acebacker1]

Wow. Comprehensive. Very impressed with the range of rifle calibers/cartridges you tested (a little envious also!🤣🤣). Thank you 😊

[@clementadelmann2655]

I will always have respect for my magneto. Its been great but I am looking forward to eventually getting a garmin and not having to worry about strapping anything to the barrel / suppressor.

[@kozy41]

I was thinking the same thing, I have nothing but great experience with my Magneto, I am not a fan of it being strapped on the muzzle and coming loose every 3-4 shots.

[@krapul007]

Other problem with the magneto: it changes your barrel harmonics. So if you shoot bench rest or x long range the precision has to be tested separate from velocity. Twice as much ammo.

[@SteveMoulten]

Just finally gave up trying to stick with my LabRadar. I’ve had it for years and have used it with decent results but it’s so picky and finicky that even though I’m experienced with it I STILL can’t get a full series of 10 shots in without losing connection/missing shots as of recently. It’s so stressful having a family and needing to optimize range time I finally pulled the trigger on the garmin. Thanks for your review brother. And thank you for speaking openly of your faith! Thank God for the precious blood of Jesus!!

[@twjonckheere]

Thanks for the great review! I am so glad I held off on getting the Labradar and ended up ordering the Garmin.

[@davida375AI]

I just found your page for the Garmin testing - and then you went into scripture. Lord how awesome! Bible study for my wife and I every Wednesday night and Saturday since 2006. I’ve subscribed and look forward to more content from you. Have a blessed Memorial Day!

[@primalrights]

That is awesome!

[@ronconrow8585]

Seems like perfect scripture for the times. I wished I had known about the Garmin before I bought the FX. I would have saved me some loot. I am pretty happy with the Fx, though. It is pretty easy to use, and I have always got it to read as long as I did everything I was supposed to like to turn it on. Lol! Thank you for taking the time to show us the differences in chronographs. God bless

[@primalrights]

Glad it was helpful!

[@take1one]

I feel your pain brother. I bought the Bulletseeker mach4+ like a day before the Garmin came out. It has been very solid but I do more pistol stuff. When shooting a rifle its great to just qd it to a rifle and go. But for me the Garmin would have worked better and cost half.

[@susanwhite2509]

How does it work with a shotgun?

[@scottfhscottfh]

WELL DONE, EXCELLENT VIDEO. Straight and to the point, no long stories, just factual data. THANK YOU. I have a magnetospeed, but will be buying the GARMIN, based on this review.

[@martinschuessler1936]

I remember watching your video a few weeks ago and really liking it. A few minutes ago, it hit me that I didn't give you a thumbs up and if there's ever a review that deserved it, it's yours. Thank you so much for the comprehensive review and excellent comparison!

[@x15973]

Thank you! I bought a Garmin last week for a Bday present for myself, and brought it up to our Kids house Sunday w/a .177 pellet(8gr.), a rolled up pc of foil(1gr.) and a plastic straw. While the Garmin did not give a velocity, it detected every "shot". Good enough for me. It's a lot smaller than my old unit, which still works, but a pain to set up. Will be testing it at a range next week w/a couple long (8" & 9.5")bbl .44 mags. Be safe!

[@CplSkiUSMC]

That Garmin is impressive and it's not really that much more expensive than the Magneto Speed. I've never been interested in the Magneto Speed because I don't want anything attached to my barrel as I'm doing load work-up. That Garmin seems to be worth the added expense. Great comparison video. God Bless and Happy New Year.

[@tacexdir]

I have had no problem with my MagnetoSpeed picking up on 40gr 22LR as long as I change the sensitivity to 8 when firing.

[@JeffinTD]

Your videos are obviously the product of a lot of work and thought and are very much appreciated. My Garmin should be arriving today. If it works as well for me, I’d say for the person who doesn’t have the money to save up until you do. It is more expensive to purchase an optical chronograph, find it to be clumsy and unreliable, and then get a Garmin.

[@garythoren6159]

I just came across your channel . Do research on what chronograph to get garmin or Labrador and you helped me make up my mind and at the end of your video you spoke of our lord and savior Jesus Christ. Thank you thank you!!!

[@Fivegunner]

Thanks!

[@zeke1eod]

Excellent job. Thanks for testing these head to head. I am looking to upgrade from my Chrony and was leaning towards lab radar, but not now. Stay safe, and God bless

[@davidschmidt5810]

Thanks for this review. I got my Garmin for Christmas and had it out a couple times. It just works flawlessly. Also, thanks for sharing your faith. I’m a believer as well and it’s much appreciated to hear this versus the other trash talking you hear online. I pray God continue to bless you brother.

[@Vamike9]

Great video! I haven't regretted buying my Garmin, it's a powerhouse.

[@TimberTramp]

Little Garmin did surprisingly well! Great job, I’ll cop that for sure!

[@toobalicious]

What a pleasant surprise when, after your excellent review, you gave a brief talk on Acts! I genuinely appreciate your hard work and the message!

[@tallyman15]

The best comparison review i've seen.

[@primalrights]

Thank you

[@bjyosten2011]

I have seen and I've put a couple of bullets through many of "V" chronos. My Magneto Speed is always reliable but impacts my grouping. I thought LabRadar was the solution yet I lost so much data with "no tracks". I was skeptic concerning the Garmin. This review was awesome comparing all three simultaneously! Thank you for taking the time for this great review!

[@michaelblondin2545]

Great job in comparing the three chronographs. You did a very comprehensive analysis. Thanks

[@babyb4306]

Excellent video, thank you so much for this. About to purchase my first chronograph. So glad I found your video first.

[@robertgore9449]

I so appreciate the scripture. And your willingness to share the Word. Sharing the Lord is literally the only thing that matters in these days.

[@markcline3724]

Thank you for such a comprehensive review of the major players in the chronograph world, I was looking heavily into the Labradar and after your review, I purchased the Garmin. Pricey but buy once cry once, I love my new Garmin.

[@johntalbot119]

Great comparison. Will be looking for a garmin unit. Thanks for your witness!

[@primalrights]

In stock at Grafs.com right now.

[@JeffCrowe-bc9ec]

Sir just saw your video and made it all the way to the end. On Jan 3 I had a heart attack and your message gave me hope and new in-site. Thanks oh by the way the video was great.

[@paulfoster2395]

Thankyou for your review mate. The Garmin here in Australia is around $1000 ..... But from what you've shown, I'll be finding one very soon.

[@JLG098721]

I exclusively use my magnetospeed on 22lr. I very rarely have a problem. I use setting 9 and its mounted with a wiser precision mount for proper height and alignment with the muzzle.

[@primalrights]

I didn't touch the Garmin settings or positioning once, during this entire test. It read out every projectile fired, no matter what was fired. I find that noteworthy.

[@JLG098721]

@primalrights Ya the Garmin is truly impressive from what I've seen so far in reviews. I am planning on running one off a diving board in competition (PRS). Right now, it doesn't seem like anything else is worthwhile in comparison if you're new in the market for a chronograph.

[@TheRedneckPreppy]

Labradars and Magnetospeeds were unobtanium due to being perpetually out of stock up here in Soviet Canuckistan for a long time, so I never bothered replacing my old Shooting Chrony until the Xero came out. Thank heavens!

[@livefiretacticaltraining7674]

I am brand new to precision rifle. I started in 2019. I bought a Lab Radar in 2020. It was my first time ever using a chronograph. I was inexperienced and out shooting alone. I set it up. I had to bring an external battery because I didn't like the fact it used so many AA's. Not a big deal. To me that was the obvious decision. Then I found it very difficult to get shots with my 6.5 PRC 147g ELD's. I found myself out there with my nose in the manual. I found myself constantly moving the unit around. I want to say I spent about 45 minutes or an hour going through the manual and moving it around. Finally, I started getting some readings. But then, all of a sudden, randomly I would not get a reading. And sometimes, I would forget to arm it. Needless to say, I didn't like the experience. I was a complete newbie with no prior knowledge of any chronograph and I just didn't like this unit. So I sold it after using it twice. Then I bought the MagneetoSpeed about a year ago. Then, I learned how the Magneetospeed creates POI shifts. So just last week, I decided I was going to bite the bullet and buy another Lab Radar for Load Development. But then I discovered this Garmin Unit just before I was about to buy! This unit is a true blessing and this is a great time for a new shooter to be getting into this discipline. The Lab Radar made me feel like I was doing everything wrong and that I was not enough of a Pro to be doing this sport. It turns out now I see it wasn't just me! I ordered my Garmin last week and it should be here at the end of January. I like the Area 419 arm that attaches to the ARCA rail too.

[@10hunterLab]

Great comparison! Nice job.

[@jrdaparker]

Thanks for the video! I have a Prochrono DLX, but it doesn’t work indoors. The Garmin looks great, but so expensive. On the other hand, I would probably use it more than the Prochrono, because it should be easier to use. I’m mostly going to use it for hand gun rounds that I make, but it’s good to know it works so well with rifles. Super cool that you’re a fellow believer! I enjoyed the scripture reading. Hopefully many will come to know Christ through your channel!

[@barrygabriel6339]

Great product comparison for a beginner. Thanks Even better that you are bold and confident in your faith!

[@virtualwatts]

Thank you for thorough review. Love my Magnetospeed, FYI there is a sensitivity setting, bump it up two notches and all .22 can be measured, I've never had a problem, subsonic to super. I am saving for the Garmin because the Magnetospeed changes POI, so you have to test loads with the Magnetospeed, then remove and test again for accuracy.

[@afrose1013]

First video of yours I’ve seen, absolutely love the Bible verse at the end. God Bless!

[@daveenriquez7790]

Great Review, I know what I am upgrading too! Thank you so much

[@rdsii64]

I have never used a lab radar. With that said, my last range trip I tried out my new Garmin Xero C1. To say I love it is an understatement.

[@Levidanielz]

I realy loved my Magetospeed 3V with the mk machining mount. I had to sell it at a huge discount once I seen the Garmins reviews. It's just too reliable and convenient. I have it with me anytime a rifle is in my presence. Thanks for testing the extremes. Love the content.

[@fshizl2918]

I had this issue with the Magnetospeed when I first got it. The sensitivity needs to be increased in order to pick up the projectile. But the Garmin is an amazing unit with ease of use and set up and portability.

[@sandybarnett7502]

Great video, everything was first class

[@briansupermag3918]

One day i hope you can try out the Bullet seeker chrony someday. I love my bullet seeker so far. Its expensive but its so darn easy to use. I love your breakdowns of ite.s and see what your analysis is. GOD BLESS

[@michaelbutler4961]

I have a Labrador and what I have found when shooting.22lr is putting it in the pistol mode instead of rifle it works very well. I'm only shooting 22lr. I do like the size of the Garmin though.

[@garythoren6159]

You have a new Veiwer And my respect. You are very thorough. Thanks again..

[@CallSign_Aaron]

The Bible verse and devotional at the end was a great surprise! Also, I’m very happy that you did a side by side comparison of the three units…that’s exactly what I would have asked for. Thank you!

[@primalrights]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@pj4433]

Great video, thanks for the very comprehensive and unbiased review.

[@Longshot762x51]

I have the magnetospeed and the Garmin, I just adjust the sensitivity on the MS and never had any issue getting velocity.

[@lapualapua3591]

Excellent work much appreciated

[@joer3198]

The only thing I wish the Garmin did was down range velocity like the LabRadar. Not for firearms, but it would be really handy for archery.

[@DonWixom]

Thanks for sharing the Word! Cool!

[@bwdavis8941]

Thank you for what you have done, what you do and the teachings you provide. God bless.

[@primalrights]

You’re welcome!

[@wvideoyahoodk]

Thank you so much for a very good review. I´ve used the Magnetospeed for years. I am just about to spend some money to make my shooting life simpler :-) May your belief be with you. I’m a bit different. Makes no difference for me. You look so kind and we - hopefully - all love life and other people. Kind regards Jesper - Denmark

[@johncashwell1024]

I have a LabRadar Lite (short-term solution they sold w/o Bluetooth when BT chips were nowhere to be found outside of phones and computers). Its large and I almost bought a new one w/Bluetooth, but I decided against because it wasn't that necessary. Now, the LabRadar does have a setting that allows to be triggered by the projectile and it works for about 15% of shots. This comparatively tiny Garmin unit is worth every penny and demonstrates what happens when you allow your product to stagnate because you are the only player. Now LabRadar has a lot of catching up to do! I will definitely upgrade to the Garmin and sell my LabRadar.

[@michaelbentz1105]

The best thing about the Garmin is the fire sales you can find on the others. I picked up a MagnetoSpeed v3 on a new Wiser Mount for $275.

[@popapi1970]

AMAZING scripture I wholeheartedly appreciate this. ANYbody want too buy a Labradar lol!

[@tarster]

Thank you for sharing a message at the end of the video, That was quite refreshing. Thank you for using your platform as well for that purpose to reach out and touch lives well beyond the time of the video.

[@billywaters3524]

I appreciate the information on this video. I subscribed because of the scripture and the sharing of your faith. May God bless you in all your endeavors.

[@chrisgunsandguitars1403]

Garmin seems to be a great unit. Small and lightweight is great. Price a bit high for now. I will wait to buy one as they will most definitely release a 2.0 model with new features etc based upon feedback. I’ve seen side by side tests before and Magneto reads faster speeds than LabRadar. In this test the Garmin and Magneto were very close. True your velocities at distance and you will know which chronograph is correct.

[@kenbrown873]

We did some testing with two guns being fired at the same time in a real world shooting application. We could not get the Garmin passed with flying colors, the lab radar failed to read each time.

[@tomforeman4976]

I have a 20 year old garmin fish finder and it got lines on the screen probly from sun damage called them and ask what would be best replacement because i loved it all along they said send it to them. I did and in 2 weeks it showed up in mail with new glass and an up date and asked me to donate 20 bucks to fish and game. WOW.

[@markmcenturff8417]

Awesome channel just found. Great, giving God the glory.

[@mikeh5908]

got me a garmin today...soooo awesome.

[@normlizer]

Thank you for the great comparison review.

[@martysouth5903]

Not surprised about the lab radar performance, I bought one when they first came out and returned it 2 weeks later. It struggled mightily with 223, and was pretty much useless, even after several calls with their tech service.

[@dberry99]

Wow those are some fast bullets. What kind of barrel life do you get pushing 5000 fps?

[@jorgefigueroa7573]

Happy New Year Greg!!

[@primalrights]

Thank you. Happy New Year!

[@neilb3692]

There is a .22 rim Setting for the Magneto speed I have used it even with lead pellets and it works perfectly.

[@MayvilleAcres4Dogs]

I just bought the garmin and would like to see it integrated with Applied Ballistics software... I have the Tactix 7 solar, with the software on it and, having weather and radar to get accurate tracking is going to be outstanding...

[@ShooterMedic1818]

Finally got my hands on one, glad I got it

[@stephenkrampert3430]

Thank you for the scripture just sold my OEHLER 33 to a friend of mine due to being a pain to hook up I just wonder how this device will work with revolvers, and being a competitive Trapshooter, with dealing with the length of shot string and wad

[@scottbrasfield6522]

Great comparison and video! Hope nobody post this until I sell my LabRadar! You need to add in the new LabRadar. It look,s like a duplicate of the Garmin. But with all the frustration I went through to optimize the Lab Radar, no way! They even said it would use the same software? As if that was a positive comment…. lol

[@primalrights]

I will not be buying the new lab radar.

[@gordonb8052]

good lord you love those high speed bullets! how often do the barrels need replaced? 3000 rounds?

[@JSwann-sj2sh]

Thank you for feeding me with the words you spoke. Having faith in the LORD and each other will and can make a better world. Thank you, Sir.

[@leb900]

How does the Garmin work when shooting at a busy public range ? Is it going to pick up others bullet speed or just mine ?

[@IWatchedWhat]

I was hoping for the 15.5gr NTX out of a 17 Remington. My Magnetospeed has no issues with it. And I have no issues with 22lr ammo, but I find I have to reset the sensitivity.

[@jeffturner7817]

Holy cow! At 5000fps I’m surprised the bullet stays together!

[@paulhomsy2751]

Very extensive experimentation. Thank you ! Would it be possible for you to compare the new Labradar to the Garmin ?

[@primalrights]

No, labradar’s previous treatment of me during an exceedingly poor customer service experience guaranteed I will not buy their products again, regardless of price or consideration.

[@paulhomsy2751]

@@primalrights Too bad. Thank you for your prompt reply.

[@aleccrombie7923]

Try testing with Three or four guys either side of you ,shooting at the same time . The labradar failed that test . Had to get recoil meter to switch it on at the right time. How would the Garmin handle that scenario?

[@CS-xg2xh]

Thank you for an awesome review!

[@lon9Ran9er]

Fantastic video. The scripture read topped it off. Happy New Year and God bless.

[@scottmoore5719]

Thank you for this thorough test and video. Thank you most of all for the scripture reading! I appreciate you using your platform to share some good news! Just gained a new subscriber!

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

Yesterday I got an error that I haven’t seen covered anywhere (not even in the manual): “POSSIBLE INTERFERENCE DETECTED. MOVE AWAY FROM LIKELY SOURCES: FANS, HVAC, FLUORESCENT LIGHTS, OTHER RADARS OBSTRUCTED VIEW.” I was by myself at an open range during day time, the only electric/electronic devices close by were my cellphone and my ear protection (I turned it off and didn’t see the message anymore, but this could be a coincidence). The range is next to a highway and many trucks have short range radios… (the type that makes speakers go nuts) I also got some low velocity “ghost shots” with the unit calibrated for subsonic pistol rounds even when there were no rounds going down range. With rifles, it worked flawlessly from .22lr to 44 magnum.

[@theunisduvenage8115]

Thank you for sharing the Word that was exactly what i needed to hear. Oh and good job on the chrono test.

[@minutesandmils3466]

Cue lots of LabRadar users claiming that they've never had a single problem, and therefore if anyone else experiences a problem, then it must be pilot error... Thanks for this video, I'll be sharing it on the forums when the LabRadar apologists inevitably pop-up and start spouting their bullshite...

[@stuartgrimm6048]

I have a Labradar. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. I’ve missed shots mostly due to the misplacement of the muzzle and the shot not recording. I just got a trigger for mine. We’ll see how that works. As for repeatedly resetting the Labradar for those missed shots above 4000fps in this video , the unit has a limitation of 3900fps at the top end. I’m not apologizing for it, you just have to understand each unit’s limitations and features to decide which one you want to use. If I were to buy another one I’d probably get the Garmin as my first choice and then the Labradar as my second. The Magnetospeed while a great option isn’t feasible for me as it won’t work well with rifles that have little to no barrel protrusion beyond the fore-stock (I’m talking about you Mr. SMLE). I still have my Shooting Chrony as a backup.

[@1175drh]

Will the garmin work shooting thru a concrete tube? Or is the magneto speed the only choice

[@j-sincopeytargetsmasher3781]

I would Like to know if this would work for 12 gauge lead shot ?

[@Chumlee1000]

Have had a f1 chrony for 18 years thats reads arrows, bb's, pellets to large rifle. Dont know if it is as accurate as the others. Plug into mic jack. Cut and strip the other end, then touch the 2 wires together and get speeds, average, es and sd. Its been a good one but it may be time for a upgrade!

[@rshotty9039]

its a dream. it literally just works. this unit made me a huge Garmin fan overall

[@kcstott]

Yeah I’ll be adding a Garmin soon. I never liked the LabRadar. To many missed shots and a pain to tune for specific calibers. Not to mention it peters out at 3500 fps.

[@ssamuelt79]

Brother, I tuned in for the Garmin Knowledge Drop and left the video with a renewal of Gods Word. Thank you for that, it is much needed!

[@ChadKelly7]

Great to see this info from you. I waited when I heard about the Garmin, ended up getting 1 of the first batch from Area419 on the release day. To me, it's been perfect. I don't have a need for the down range speeds the Lab Radar can do, so for my use it's the way to go. I am noticing that the Lab seems to have consistently slower speeds shown. Is that something I need to consider when using my Garmin? Or better to just trust the info I get from my Garmin and use it for my Kestrel data? In my mind, as long as I'm using the same chrono I should have the same consistency in readings for my own uses. I am getting started on my own loads for my PRS rifle, so I am hoping that just trusting the Garmin will give me the comparative speeds I need to find my best powder charge for my rifle. If you get a chance, let me know what you think. I figure I am good to go and just get out and use it, but confirmation from you with your many years of experience and knowledge would be great. I hope your 2023 was great and you and your family have an awesome 2024!! Thanks for all you do and I have had a good time this last week showing off my CPS on my little videos as I'm starting this load work for my 6 Creedmoor. The comments are good, they like your tool!

[@primalrights]

Personally, I would trust the numbers the Garmin gives. If you notice in my video, the Garmin and the Magnetospeed agreed very closely with each other quite frequently, while the number the labradar gave was often quite a bit off from those two, in comparison. I have had very good luck trusting the numbers the Magnetospeed puts out, and so with the Garmin reading out very similar numbers... that leads me to believe the garmin is fairly adept at providing actual functional muzzle velocities for use in our ballistic solvers. Thanks for your promotion of the CPS on your channel. I'll have to go take a look at the videos. Perhaps give me a call at the shop during the week sometime for a conversation.

[@ChadKelly7]

@primalrights Thanks for the confirmation! I was noticing Magneto and Garmin very close, likely not enough difference to miss a PRS target if I do my part right! Still working on that 🤣. 4 matches into my journey and working on my mistakes between each match! Lots to learn still of course. I am trying to document it all with a match review video and pointing out what I notice my biggest issues were, then working to correct them before the next match. Then find the next 2 or 3 glaring mistakes I make and work on those. I will get it all pulled together in the next months of practice!! It is fun! I should also tell you, for some reason the video I made about cleaning with rice kinda blew up for me! It was one of my earliest videos this year and I think I need to do an updated, more refined version, but people still find it and comment. I really appreciate that tip you guys gave me when I was very new to this. If I can, I will try to call in to you. Probably have to try next week, though. I work Tuesdays thru Saturdays, my weekend Sundays and Mondays. Maybe I can get a chance to call ya the 8th. I figure everyone will take this Monday the 1st to relax and recharge for the coming year. I do want to get more info on the Prime Where and figure out when I should be looking to add that tool to my bench for added precision. I mentioned it in my last video, where I tried to show the poor man's version by using a caliper to attempt to get pocket depth. Not nearly as accurate I'm sure!! I appreciate your response. It gives me more confidence in my decision to go with the Garmin!! I hope you and the family have a blessed weekend and 2024!!

[@forty5r637]

I've been blessed to have been able to use both the MagnetoSpeed and Lab Radar. Both have worked great but the biggest issues with both is the size. I'm always afraid I will send a bullet into the Magneto Speed

[@steelshrapnel9900]

Excellent video! I have old school chronograph requires fairly extensive setup with large bipod, wires, readout screen, etc etc. Always work except when another range member ask to check their velocity and skip a projectile off the top edge of chronograph braking it! Read a bit about Labradar and been on the fence after reading some online reviews! Very interested in Labradar new small chronograph as well as Garmin. Make sense the original large Labradar unit doesn’t pickup lead projectiles but didn’t think about it until you pointed it out! I’m not sure about their new small unit soon to be available has same issue? Nonetheless your video definitely helps me to decide between Garmin and new smaller Labradar, thanks!

[@brianschumaker5912]

How about testing them to see how they do with a .177 air rifle?

[@s.d.8686]

The one detractor I've discovered about the Garmin is that it's calculation for Standard Deviation consistently displays a low reading as compared to every other SD calculator I've tested it against. Hay Garmin how's about a software patch for this minor issue???

[@primalrights]

It’s not being calculated wrongly, it’s just being calculated differently.

[@ffvg9909]

Thanks

[@mryang3644]

This video just STOPPED all LabRadar orders😂😂😂😂😂 Glad i didnt order one years ago...and...... Garmin price just went up too.. dam it!!!

[@texpatriot8462]

In a nutshell, Garmin = Modern Car, Labradar = K Car, Magnetspeed = 72 Ford Pinto Wagon