Jazz drummer reacts: Wintersun-Sons of Winter and Stars (Drum Cam)

[@jongu71]

First time watching Kai in a Wintersun song. Now I realise why people keep calling his drumwork in Nightwish a lazy vacation in comparision...😀

[@JasperSchwinghammer]

Yeah I hope that these skills we be used on their upcoming album a bit more

[@warem7018]

It's not a vacation at all. It's not about how fast you can do singles. With Nightwish he's playing to a backing track the entire time. Any mistake is gonna be noticeable.

[@BW_Drums]

@@warem7018 Wintersun have at least as many backing tracks as Nightwish do in a live setting.

[@lrtt99]

WAREM you dont know Jari if you think he lets Kai makes mistakes playing the drums.

[@janitor6669]

@@JasperSchwinghammer They will. Trust me ;)

[@operatori]

Kai played jazz at some point and has also trained with masters of various genres. He's more than just a metal drummer.

[@JHX1]

Yes indeed, played jazz and Bigband before metal.

[@tommikarsikas1320]

@@JHX1 Not before metal, while metal. He got into drums as a child and got his first kit at the age of six. The metal thing really started because of 'Iron Maiden - Killers' album given to him by his grandmother when he was 8 years old. He has always been very versatile in his playing, even as a child he played quite an array of genres. Yes, Big Band, Jazz, and Dixieland are genres that he has played in bands, but he has also played Finnish folk music, pop, you name it, he loves to play drums period.

[@JHX1]

@@tommikarsikas1320 thanks for the (much) info, I basically meant he also played jazz before he was famous in metal.

[@Gibbetoo]

tell me if i am wrong, but he is left handed?

[@tommikarsikas1320]

@@Gibbetoo Yes, he is left handed.

[@kimmikke_]

Kai Hahto in his youth has lived in New York and been taught by some of the top Professional Jazz Drummers in USA and he played on multiple jazz bands and wedding bands while staying in there. So he is originally a Jazz focused Drummer who tried multiple other Genres and found Metal (like Wintersun and nowadays Symphonic Metal band called Nightwish) as his favourite, but uses those Jazz and other Genres drumming techniques in his playing all the time.

[@S.d.Glokta]

U should really check this song out live at Sonic pump studios, epic song

[@Vampfy]

LaPulga it’d be a good follow up! Edit: he did!

[@villealakorkko21]

Yep, you should check the "live @ sonic pump studios" version.. better sound quality, and all players are worth to see 👌🤘

[@TheSentinel909]

Listening to Wintersun without the rest of the music is a crime! You were spot on that all the cymbal flourishes were meant to accent the music, Kai really spoke at lenghts how hard it was to construct some of the lines around those tunes.

[@paulretzbach9583]

That’s KAI HAHTO!! The MAN

[@JayMaverick]

That groove after 3:25 is basically responsible for me falling in love with this band.

[@JesterSam75]

I was there back in 2012 and will always remember the feeling...what a night...Time I was released.

[@Drummerx04]

12:10 yes, thank you. I'm glad someone else recognizes the weirdly satisfying cadence of a human blast beat.

[@Droogie128]

They have a live rehearsal recording of this at sonic pump studios. Incredible song.

[@lextalionis8263]

Kai Hahto is a great guy and one of the better drummers in metal I know. Great vid :)

[@Tepasd]

First time I stumble upon your videos, and I love how technical you get! I don't even play drums, but they are usually the first instrument that I pay attention to when listening to something as complex as this :D

[@cashewshalom]

Really great reaction! I would like to suggest you to react Wintersun - Time live rehearsal at Sonic Pump studio. There you hear whole band. Also Sons of Winter and Stars are played in the same studio. Please and peace 🙏😎✌️

[@Jubanen12]

"Doesnt even look like he is really working that hard" trust me, based on those few live recording videos out there he is probably sweating buckets.. its a workout, this song lol. You'd actually have to be a god to not be in pain at some points during it.

[@garrettmillerdrums]

He makes it look easy. I'd need oxygen afterward

[@MathijsIgnoul]

Kai is such a hero. Actually plays jazz aswell.

[@MountainMetal]

Yep. He's really good.

[@Dk_Linn]

Never heard of this band, but I am definitely checking them out now. Loved hearing your thoughts on this. I'm not a drummer but I love learning about the techniques and some of the theory behind this stuff.

[@lrtt99]

Dkdevilkid if you love about techniques, you mist check out the videos of Teeemu Mantysaari (the second guitarist of the band) for Troy Grady. Put Winter Madness solo on YT. In another video he plays arpeggios and other stuff. The interview is mind blowing.

[@rickgreenhalgh1357]

I really like wintersun, there's some harsh vocals that not everyone likes but if you can live with that then theres noone else quite like them

[@RoisinT2]

I just love these vids/your comments.. When someone who actually knows what there are happening and can explain it to completely noob like me when it comes to playing - i know that they are talented and that it sounds so good, but to hear your comments here and there in the meantime, its just very entertaining to watch. Thanks man! Keep doing what you do if you can, i know ill watch!

[@nirmalpaul8536]

Oh yeah, context is super important. Those accents actually play a massive role in his style. He's so good, I don't even know where to start.

[@internetexplorer1057]

Check out Darkside from Mgla playing Exercises in Futility V drum cam from Brutal Assault festival this year!

[@hanneshaatainen4994]

Kai Hahto - Obey is one of my favorite drum videos of all time.

[@Blackerer]

ALL of his work with Rotten Sound is absolutely amazing. And groovy af. Just going through the Murderworks is fantastic.

[@hairychris444]

Swing in metal is a really interesting thing. As a guitarist, playing against blasts you're generally counting in 4s or maybe 8s, so a slight move makes a lot of difference. In shit I've played/written I'm slightly behind the beat while playing fast. You get the combination of playing really fucking fast but having a chilling vibe at the same time.

[@TheSmashbrowns]

He mentioned in an interview that jazz is his favorite style to play.

[@Nate-wn2ef]

he comes from jazz

[@chestbuster1987]

Quite a shame you didn't get to hear the guitars and vocals. Wintersun are very impressive from all points of view.

[@CrimsonRoseDancer]

You should watch Nightwish “Ghost Love Score” official live at Wacken 2013. Their drummer is awesome. It’s a long song but worth the epic journey.

[@mildeecke6641]

Im wintersun fan since 2008 and he is still me favourite Drummer.

[@PapaRandals]

Man i respect u so much. All the stuff u do is so real and fun, so i'm just gonna say this:all the love from finland man!

[@PapaRandals]

I´ll be following u man

[@thinkpad20]

The live video of Obey by Rotten Sound is my favorite Hahto video. Relatively OK sound for a live cam too.

[@aalegge]

You went to high school with Danny Walker?! Danny Walker of Intronaut?!

[@bed22455]

I came down here to comment the exact same thing!

[@behindthen0thing525]

Hello!

[@ultrahero2115]

This is amazing cause I met Danny! One of the best drummers in metal period! Fast or slow!

[@behindthen0thing525]

@@ultrahero2115 he's great

[@ElectricMonkey99]

Literally one of my favorite drummers out there rn! Hes so creative with his grooves and he plays with so much power.

[@liliIiliIilil]

HOLY CRAP, you went to school with Danny Walker? I've seen him live numerous times. Dude's a beast.

[@ristorinne5817]

Reason why Wintersun´s music sounds like " midevil " is that it´s music genre is power metalfolk, metal neoclassical, metalmelodic death metal and black metal. In 1997, Mäenpää served in the Finnish military as part of his national defense duty, during which he contracted tuberculosis. The diagnosis was late, and Mäenpää required surgery to remove part of his lung, hospitalizing him for months. The song "Beautiful Death" would later be inspired by this event. Dispite of that, he can sing pretty good.

[@d3tach3d]

MORGAN AGREN from the Mats Morgan Band. Enough said. Seriously one of the best drummers of our time. Hes just on another league. Any style he plays he brings complete originality too.

[@pn3154]

"He just gotta change his socks" - refers to himself reacting to Tomas Haake playing "Bleed" when it looked like Tomas had changed his socks and he was joking that the socks were probably worn out already half way the song. Hilarious dude!

[@White2098]

How about Devin Townsend - Hear me! drum playthrough by 666samus? (he also recorded the album version). Unreal speed and precision!

[@satriadionika7140]

Don't compare God kai with samus

[@UncleMustardo]

Danny Walker have actually mentioned Kai Hahto to be one of his favourite drummers. This was in some drummer magazine over ten years ago.

[@crazyjoedavola7493]

The guy from Crash Test Dummies.....bmjöööömhmh! Brilliant!

[@BluuurghAg9]

You went to school with Danny Walker?! Intronaut/Uphill Battle Danny? I love his drumming!

[@mikelbentube]

Archspire - Remote Tumour Seeker [Live in Montreal]

[@AdamYoudell]

So many guys I've seen can't blast like that with their left(right handed drummers) they use the right on snare/and the left on the cymbal but that screws everything up when they go into a fill because the lead hand is wrong. Imposters! THIS is how blasting is done. Also check out Dirk Verbeuren

[@vernonpurdue928]

Dirks the man!

[@dwigtschrude]

Just found out he was in a grindcore band before. Now it makes sense

[@anttikettunen8601]

I seriously LMAOd at the Crash Test Dummies -comment. Hilarious shit dude. And Kai Hahto is a fucking proven beast. He's awesome.

[@Droogie128]

Danny Carey of Tool doing Rosetta Stoned is incredible to watch, too

[@Sickdrummermagazine]

You went to HS with Danny Walker?

[@janihaavisto79]

As you probably know already Kai used to be big Jazz guy before coming to metal genre. He is our Sen-sei. Or As many call he's foot work so accurate that he gotten human metronome adjective to he's name.

[@scottowens4162]

danny walker has played in some of my favorite bands like phobia, uphill battle, etc.

[@EliDowns114]

Kai Hato is now the drummer for Nightwish.

[@TheGuitarifier]

Fuck yessss. I love wintersun

[@WMfin]

Great react video, great band and great drummer! Couldn't find you reacting to Mgła - Exercises in Futility V -drumcam. Really recommend it if you want to see more metal drumming!

[@rapscallion52]

Ooh, got one for you, cattle decapitation, mammals in babylon, full band play through

[@bodenlosedosenhose1590]

A whole city's electricity can be supplied by one Kai Hahto. True story.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

The whole song: Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (TIME I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip2YhWCdobmXjtk

[@zaltuguitar]

Kai hato used to play in a band called rotten sound. There's some drum footage on KZbin around, that playing is even crazier

[@2000xlt]

Check out, behemoth "ov fire and the void" john rice drum cam.. absolutely incredible double bass action,

[@wolfshepard1330]

best drummer ever

[@1Nowis1]

Please do a Video about the swing in matal and fast punkrock! Very interessted!

[@dronedruid153]

Airwolf! Fuck yeah!

[@TaylorMorgeson]

Best eyebrows on KZbin. Wish mine were half that thick.

[@mramd9062]

Kai is a machine, he plays now drums for Nightwish.

[@poisonfists]

"...and Airwolf" is the new T-SHIRT!

[@cardiohirvi3838]

Kai Hahto is a legit professional jazz drummer if I'm not completely wrong. Been following him since rotten sound days, I find it funny how is getting the nightwish pension now :P

[@bertil3887]

Kai Hahto has played some jazz as some people have mentioned he has even played with Jonas Hellborg

[@anttisilvast5613]

Nicholas Barker from Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir etc. Absolute beast!

[@xmikhaelxSONWD]

Ken Schalk and Candiria, especially Constant Velocity..., and I would love if you did some Deathspell Omega.

[@ThrashJazzAssassin77]

Ken, the Four Piece Beast

[@immaleaf4964]

Little bit more relaxed here brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@Marrero1]

You are totally right. As the viewer it's nice to have context too. Would prefer playthrough videos over live ones.

[@faithisdumb666]

You knew Danny Walker in high school? I really love his drumming!

[@garrettmillerdrums]

Yeah he was in the drumline for a week. Had the cleanest rolls of anyone in the line, even the seniors. Then he left, probably because it wasn't challenging at all and went on to do other cool stuff.

[@faithisdumb666]

@@garrettmillerdrums I am such a huge fan of his,I wish he was still in Intronaut.

[@astrajim]

Dude, you should really check out the full song, live at sonic pump studios :)

[@jayheevlogs]

Kai Hahto is also the drummer in Nightwish

[@Luemm3l]

one metal drummer said something along the lines of making easy things sound more complicated than they are or just speeding them up... meaning that you have one beat going through, like the kicks here and you lay patterns and syncopations on top of them, like cymbals here. another drummer who does this is darkside from mgla check his cymbal game out, took me by surprise: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn2yp55mgdyofc0 metal is a very straightforward kind of music usually and almost requires nothing else outside 2/4 or 4/4 or sometimes 3/4 for the triplet feel, although a lot of modern bands start to incorporate more off-feeling signatures (5/4, 7/8 and the likes) or just play in a way that makes them sound like it, even when they are still 4/4. my point being: if it serves the song, nothing has to be overly complicated. the role of drums in metal is that of the time giver, so quite different from jazz where you can break out into a solo or the drummer responds actually to the band being the sort of "red line" throughout the song.

[@jotunmarty]

i've only seen a couple of videos of yours so far , and i like the colourful language you seem to use to explain what's happening to normies like me

[@garrettmillerdrums]

Thanks, I'm a bit of a potty mouth.

[@timomastosalo]

Kai has also history of playing jazz

[@aretherenamesleft9]

Bit stoned now, but totally get that swing example you were giving about punk and this kind of metal.

[@blackhatch46]

Hail murder by dark funeral. Best drummer in metal

[@MisanthropieWoW]

THis is so sad. This song is so epic and the drums are epic in correlation with the music and the other instruments. You should definately listen to the song.

[@henrywalton5967]

The sonic pump videos would be perfect, they show a fair bit of drums too

[@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis]

Kai haito is also an excellent jazz drummer. Hes one of my favourites. Please react to gavin harrison sound of muzak. Probably.more up your street but the version at modern drummer announced by simon Phillip's. Nothing to not like :)

[@mramd9062]

And now he is drumming for Nightwish ;)

[@aztecwhistle9122]

Metal head reacts to jazz music: sudden urge to cook jumbalya

[@SolsticioHardcore]

he should react to winter madness, thats straight 7 minutes of blast beats

[@jmetallover]

Listen to the song with the band up front (kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip2YhWCdobmXjtk) and you will hear great harmony, guitars and vocals as well as Kai's amazing drum work(the lead vocalist lost 25% of his lung to TB so keep that in mind). BTW Kai is now the drummer for Nightwish and if you want to evaluate him again try their masterpiece Greatest Show on Earth (kzbin.info/www/bejne/ambFo616f7CNadE). Kai is a world class drummer but the drum cam I never get as you miss everything else, glad as a drummer you want the whole song as I do !!!

[@chrismaan1737]

you should check out the drum only video from Archspire. He plays on 350bpm ;) its amazing to look at him

[@mrvercetti13]

You should check out the drummer of Cattle Decapitaion. He is an AK-47. This song reminds me of Blind Guardian. Super epic and huge.

[@amimuhammad825]

Please go check this young Indonesian drummer, Ray Prasetya. His drumming is really great for his age. Type down "Yamaha Music Experience - Splashing Water | Ray Prasetya Drum Cam | at SMEX 2019 ."

[@DaveTheTrain]

Please do David Gray of Akercocke! Either He is Risen or Valley of the Crucified !

[@Pave999]

It's coming, Time II D-40... 😎

[@Philipp.of.Swabia]

Byzance is actually a series of Meinl 😉

[@facepalmjesus1608]

JEEEEZZZZZZZZZZ... REACT TO BOBBY JARZOMBEK (SCHOOL) FOR MILLIONTH TIME!

[@SveinNOR]

Just checked it out, would love to see that reaction! Insane!

[@facepalmjesus1608]

@@SveinNOR yeap he is one of my favorite drummers ever....he is really sick and unique

[@rahovalce]

Check out baard kolstad's Illuminate!

[@mcmlxxxviimcmxcvi8641]

Is this the fastest growing KZbin channel?? 4000 more subscribers in the past 2 days... 😳

[@ShredST]

Rock/metal fans always need that validation from other people.

[@strofimios]

Eloy Casagrande - Desperate Cry,it's a good one.

[@samirantanen707]

Wintersun - mmm mmm mmm mmm

[@squidcaps4308]

One can program anything. But... to have enough knowledge to program it is entire another matter, which even to a drummer is black magic that they don't fully understand. And so, YOU can't program everything is true, but one can program anything is also true.

[@nunalves7]

Now you should check the actual song. Epic song

[@old_romans]

lol...Eyes light up at 3:07 CHIIINAAA!

[@janitor6669]

A fun fact: Kai is left-handed.

[@benluna4844]

Try dominator drum cam plz

[@strofimios]

Nils 'Dominator' Fjellström playing "Vobiscum Satanas"

[@thelolmaster1997]

Please react to my programmed drums in guitar pro

[@jonwyatt4936]

Shuffle sounding!

[@snoophogg1177]

Kenneth Shaulk of Candiria

[@rickc2102]

"A wash of sound"... seriously, it's like, how to turn a drum kit into ambience.

[@toddwilliams8128]

Would have loved to hear it in context... "sons" is a cool song. Definitely worth checking out if you haven't heard it. Wintersun could almost be called "progressive". Elements of classical and folk thrown into the metal. Probably the most fun I've heard a metal drummer play a ride is Tim Yeung (formerly) of Morbid Angel... check out "Sworn to the Black" kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3msaYWweryUqNU